The Downfall of EnchantedMob and ZAMination

[@PosiDoesMore]

I STRONGLY suggest you guys watch Daggz’s video - while he goes over mostly the same stuff (he credited me for the inspiration, put down your pitchforks please), his is a lot more professional and overall better, so it’s a must-view for sure: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ-vopKBr9l-gqs

[@WarpedStudios]

👏👏

[@ZeroDim]

Here is a little bit of knowledge about Baby:Sister Location takes place in between the events of the bite of 87 and fnaf 1 and most of the dead children who possess animatronics have not mentally aged as proven by Elizabeth dying around 1982 and still acting 10 in pizzaria simulator which takes place in 2030 she is a lot more cunning and evil in Pizzaria Sim and SL than she is when she died but she has still been shown to have the naivety of a child think of that as you will

[@Turbulation1]

While it is more professional, his mixing with comedy honestly makes it inferior.

[@JustCallMeHeavy]

Didn't you help him with it?

[@IrieTheGreat]

@@ZeroDim 83 but ik what you mean, I loved that Markiplier meme too, he's so funny

[@taytay6969]

they went from "actually good animations" to "HUGGY WUGGY HAS A CRUSH ON WHOOOOO!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?"

[@mythical5292]

went from local business dealer to spamton.

[@drakethatpixelguy935]

They went from good to GREGORY HAS A SISTER!!?!?!?!!

[@hoppie4263]

There returning to how the channel used to be now a new video is on the channel about returning to music videos

[@rafaels.chanel4219]

I started watching EnchantedMob before Zamination, and i started watching these almost 3 years ago

[@sothisishowusernameswork.2043]

Thankfully zam is changing.

[@thedimwitt439]

I’m glad Ethan was alright In the end, I always loved his videos and knowing he was constantly unfairly harassed and bullied for his hard work is just plain awful.

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

Agreed he's a good person who was put in an unfortunate situation

[@SomeGuy77727]

I agree, I’m gonna watch more of ethan

[@DogSippingRootbeer]

And then came poppy playtime🙁

[@im_lost9355]

i never liked the animations,but he didnt deserve getting shit on like that

[@enll6246]

@@MyBelovedGhostAndMe yeah so am I, also is it me or is it a quintessence that eckrcoaster and I both are inspired be zam and emob and we are both named ethan?

[@cactoos9793]

It's sad that the consistency trap happens to many youtubers and content creators, and that they have to stick to that to get more views and stay relevant. Interesting and well documented video!

[@gamerfan8445]

I actually happened to me.

[@reggielacey2235]

Trash video shitting on popular KZbinr

[@PosiDoesMore]

Apologies for the audio inconsistency towards the end... recording issues :(

[@Graysepticeye]

You should make a video about Poppy Playtime copying Venge.

[@Lefty_FNaFYT]

@PosiDon there was a incident where Tyler uploaded the video of animation lobby made a video about circus baby and this is not the first time he did this if you go to the animation lobby videos it's basically attracting kids and also a minor to be with and it's just weird..

[@Lefty_FNaFYT]

One of the other reasons why I have this problem of animation lobby enchanted mob I will tell you why because the one thing is is that they criticize Ethan and also like I said many times it's not funny to make fun of someone's animation even if they start of the first day of animating on 2016

[@Lefty_FNaFYT]

We got to show respect for Ethan I do because his animations are perfect but that doesn't mean that everyone else should have to make an animation sin about someone's videos

[@ErutuffLOL]

:)

[@Phobie_2000]

Yeah, they kinda fell off. They had a fanmade series called "Fazbear and Friends", it was a cute Minecraft FNAF episodic series. But they only made 3 episodes. Then they completely canned it and started making random shorts based on random characters. It lost its charm. Although their animations are really well made, and voice acted perfectly. Every now and then there WILL be a pretty funny joke that gets a laugh. But almost every video is just a compilation of previous shorts. I do enjoy some of the unexpected, self aware humor. But they aren’t the same. But I can’t help but appreciate the hustle.

[@jd.gecko580]

My opinion: The Fazbear & Friends episodes, they're pretty good. But the F&F Shorts, well... They're just kinda boring.

[@dylansharp8471]

4 episodes actually.

[@galaxywe4155]

@@dylansharp8471 we don't talk about the fourth one Edit:wait, fourth one four likes.. ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

[@moo8866]

@@galaxywe4155 no longer

[@emeraldskits4026]

Yeah, and they also clickbait it. I personally saw what I thought would be something terrible to laugh at (I mean... a story about Vanny trying to get into that Huggy Wuggy creature's pants? Seriously, you stooped that low!?) but I was warned by someone when I offered for them to react along with me that that story was definitely wasn't in there. How disappointing. I wanted to laugh as I cast them down into the depths of hell. But no, they couldn't even do that. They lied as well. But hey, they didn't subjugate their animators to that (except for the thumbnails, but I'm pretty sure they do those themselves). That's the only thing good about that. (Sorry if the comment feels strange, I wrote this in two different parts of the day, and have gotten very little sleep as of recent.)

[@imnnotagirlstfu]

Fun Fact: Elizabeth was described as a kindergarten in the FNaF books. She's about 3-5 yrs old. Makes it way more disgusting.

[@venomcarnage2237]

🤮

[@imnnotagirlstfu]

@@MX_4_Life ikr

[@gurlsarmymc5270]

@@imnnotagirlstfu but in the game Elizabeth had a voice that sounded like a 6/8 yo, ofc sexualising animatronics is weird and disgusting but you should know that according to the FNaF timeline Elizabeth was killed by baby and stuck underground for MANY years… which means that her soul grew up… you can’t say they’re sexualising underaged characters bc they’re not, but surely these animations are made for children and shouldn’t be like that

[@imnnotagirlstfu]

@@gurlsarmymc5270 do those year really count though?

[@gurlsarmymc5270]

@@imnnotagirlstfu wdym? It’s proving Elizabeth isn’t a child anymore… ppl grow even if they’re dead (it sounds stupid I know but it’s fnaf)

[@vincentpauvarel]

They're basically just following what's trendy and attract viewers now, and yes by putting chests onto Minecraft characters. It honestly would've been less of a problem if the thumbnails weren't Circus Baby with her chest exposed everytime. Unfortunately the only "mature" details about these animations is some of the female character designs, there isn't much raw violence, the edginess or some dark humor here and there. Now it's just pandering to the kids and people who wants to rock off their dingdongs to cube characters.

[@venomcarnage2237]

Ik a nine year old is being milked *wheezes* cuz yes

[@scoundral2995]

Oh yeah I remember a dirty joke with foxy when the fem foxy got added Cartoony boner joke where his eyepatch raises with a spring noise then another spring noise

[@Nexus842]

Just like gametoons.

[@PercydeRoloFangirl]

@@gengarpixel3954 she's like 6 too.

[@DiamondDestroyer-ni4ll]

This whole video can be summarized with one quote: "You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain"

[@buckwolf7554]

True on that

[@davidafton918]

I'm gonna put the hall of quote ngl

[@pedrosso0]

A changed version of the end quote, but that's fine. It's a good version

[@reggielacey2235]

They ars still heroes

[@KompadoodleLEL]

“time does not heal wounds. accountability heals wounds.” damn

[@Pokenaf]

I watched both zam and emob back in 2018. I gotta say, it's kinda sad of how they become, like, I always loved their animatons, especially the disconnected series and the foxy song series. I wanted to unsub to them because all of those fnaf shorts but at the same time, It's hard for me to not stop watching their animations because they are the main reason why I started to make animations. I actually have no complain anything about their animations nowadays. I'm happy that of how the animations improved but what I'm not happy is that I feel like they didn't care about their viewers now. If only they look back at their old/successful music videos I'd probably continue to watch them more like I used to. I hope that they get back on track on what are they suppose to do Edit: In the zam's apology comment, it was actually still there but it's just unpin that's why you can't see it

[@PikaPotterhead07]

I had tried telling people about the Ekrcoaster situation on the channels, and people were threatening me, calling me stupid, and denying it saying it never happened.

[@PosiDoesMore]

They’re just in denial. As rude as it sounds to say, a lot of them are children, so they don’t understand. Hopefully they grow out of it.

[@can0cringe]

When it first happened, I checked the channels occasionally to see if anyone had started talking about it. Mainly MOB’s, since I wasn’t and have never been subbed to ZAM’s. Surprisingly, I never saw anyone. I never even heard about ZAM’s apology or its subsequent deletion. Guess I didn’t check as well as I thought I did 🤷 In the end, I’m a bit glad people went out and tried to get accountability! Even if Ekr told us not to (I believe he mentioned that in the doc? It’s been a while, I don’t fully remember.). Witch-hunting and all that is really stupid, I know, but I can’t help but feel happy that so many people actually tried to get some form of apology from them and get this info in the light. _And_ sorta succeeded!

[@davidgn40]

Honestly had no idea about the Minecraft animation community drama until now. I was just on twitter finding out about the Poppy Playtime NFT situation and I ended up finding Ekrcoaster's google doc. When I was reading it I thought Zac and Seth were like older teens, around 17 or so. Can't believe these people are grown adults messing with a kid, embarrassing.

[@can0cringe]

“…finding out about the Poppy Playtime NFT situation” the WHAT jesus I just checked and.. yeah no they really did that wow

[@davidgn40]

@@can0cringe yeah, they'll apparently hop on any trend to get more money.

[@knightatyourservice7512]

So, I wanted to mention YET ANOTHER thing about the whole Ekrcoaster situation. If you don't know, the developers of the recent gamw called Poppy Playtime are EnchantedMob and ZAMination. In 2020, Ekrcoaster also have made a game called Venge. What is the deal with that? Well, Ekrcoaster accused MOB games of plagiarism, and he showed proofs for that (similar character designs, similar plot, similar game description). As he said in his tweets, it wouldn't have being a problem if Poppy Playtime was made by a random team, but that's not the case. And, considering his past with the developers of Poppy Playtime, it seems even more likely that the developers plagiarized. Now, personally, I thought the game was inspired by BATIM considering his structure in chapters (although that is more for marketing reasons if you ask me), how Huggy Wuggy looks and some plot bits like a company fall from grace, missing employees and characters brought to life. But it seems like it has more similarities with Venge than BATIM. IDK... Something doesn't sound right.

[@darkmodeenjoyer3367]

I looked at gameplayand in see Why there saying that

[@can0cringe]

Yeah. Personally, I think they saw Venge, figured it’d be a good game idea / possible way to get back at Ekr, and rolled with it, changing it up just enough to keep a “oOps coIncIdeNcE aMiRiGhT???” facade while also trying to subtly one-up Ekr. Who’s to say it isn’t just seriously inspired by BATIM and other games like that? Who’s to say they copied Ekr? How would you even prove it? Won’t it be a he said / she said case, even with their fall-from-glory history? I hate to see Venge getting so much less attention. I hate seeing Poppy Playtime get such a fanbase when it’s entirely possible they just ripped the concept and dressed it up. And- from the snippets I’ve seen- I hate how good PP looks. They do such pretty work.. and yet they’re full of shite. Epitomes of shite. And I hate how I looked up to them. Still sorta do, for the animation and set designs and being able to crank out content and.. everything.

[@exoticdachoo007]

I feel like its an insult to compare BATIM and that game.

[@zengoku4518]

What made me unsub from Emod are his recent videos. When he moved away from those Extremely well made music videos to those “trendy” mass media videos clearly aimed at children.

[@PosiDoesMore]

I would say their animations are still well made from a technical standpoint, they just have no substance to them beyond child appeal

[@zengoku4518]

@@PosiDoesMore Yea that’s what I meant haha it just pains me that all that talent is wasted on THOSE type of videos but I do agree that they are free to work on whatever they please

[@darthmauve]

among us squid game bendy fnaf minecraft friday night funkin

[@TycoonTitian01]

@@darthmauve that sums it up

[@SpringyGirl69]

Don’t really see a problem with it but it does kinda stray away from what his audience was before

[@Deimoste]

I remember ekrcoaster video of “Where I’ve been” or “Why Ekrcoaster disappeared” something like that. Ever since that I never watched zamanation and EnchantedMob ever again.

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

Same, he doesn't deserve what they put him through

[@dawg4546]

What you said at the end of the video I absolutely fell in love with. "Either die a passion project, or you live long enough to become a soulless business" And since I want to be an independent animator, here's my answer. I don't want to become a soulless business like EnchantedMob, ZAMination, SMG4 or Glitch production's. I want to become someone who shows the world what they see in there own unique way. And I don't want to exploit other people's work. But be inspired from other imaginative creator's like Viziepop, Scott Cawthon, Micah Mcgonigal, Christian Pearson, Alan Becker and more so I can create more of my own idea's that I hold dear to my heart.

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

Ooh you know Alan Becker? His animations are so smooth and impressive

[@Billybob7u7]

Smg4 isnt a souless buisness they nust made a company to make real shows

[@thewitheredstriker]

> "And since I want to be an independent animator" And you will get there! Wishing you all the best in your journey!

[@donttalkaboutmypfp]

Well i wish the best for you And I hope u don't become to what you hate

[@cloudyguy4477]

Smg4 isn’t soulless, they work on projects they enjoy, make their own shows

[@BellaCupcakez]

i honestly miss their old content so much :(

[@FuzzyBunny01_]

Same :(

[@Localhetalian1]

Same

[@karasuper4690]

same. especially the fnaf music videos.

[@smgroy1]

Finally someone who talked about this matter. Probably the only one as well. Thanks alot for this documentary

[@theMailmansHere]

It's disgusting, honestly. Everything. And the fact that they think hating on animations publicly is fine is because it's for their "epic animation sins channel" than I'm unsubscribing with no second thoughts

[@kathleenchafe2770]

If I can take from one Joey Drew The success starved them They let their creations become their lives

[@iluvoranges]

Zach Belanger is to blame. He's been the executive of the EMob vids for quite some time and, basically, the ZAM brothers were 2 of his many victims. He made them cash grabbers. How? Making vids. Zach B. was the main reason why Ekrcoaster felt down. He even went to stealing ideas from Venge to Poppy Playtime. He should take the accused blame, and he's the reason his own company is failing. Hoping the ZAM bros would see what they're doing and just stick together for each other, making whatever they want instead of crappy shorts while we wait for a new series about robots and F&F 5. They should let go of the way that won't let them live. Because if it's too hard to forgive, they should just give out and just be ZAM! One company, just them 2.

[@jd.gecko580]

Hey what rate my Fazbear and Friends Series, ya know like "is it for kids? or adults?" The rate is: Rated- Y7.

[@Beamierdig]

I don't like Zach belanger He's mean

[@Barrystue]

THEY HAVE BROKEN FREE SPREAD THE NEWS ZAM IS BACK TO INDIE ANIMATION

[@tygranius3078]

Update: Zamination made a video about the End of Fazbear and friends, saying that they will stop making weekly shorts and go back to making music videos. Its basically a song about them moving on from it

[@StickGuyAnimations]

It’s so sad to see how far Emob has fallen, I remember a couple years ago where I would be so excited when a new animation came out, or he would stream, I use to rewatch his livestreams a lot just to learn how to animate smoothly lol, but once his pfp changed to the standard simple logo, and the first episode of fazbear and friends was released I knew it was over. I still had hope, it wasn’t all bad the animation was still nice and some of the jokes were actually pretty funny, and I saw a lot of comments saying this was just fill in to make some extra money for the new music videos, but those never came, just more and more 20 minute long shorts with the same stuff in them. The only hope I got was when they released that one Alex’s music video, but then they milked that to the literal bone, I gotta give credit where it’s do, they know how to grind. I just miss 2015 man it was simpler back then :(

[@Evmations]

I've been watching all creators involved for years and years now, and it sucks to see them lose their integrity and passion so much in recent years. I was so upset at first when they started making their weird shorts because I genuinely had so much respect for them and they even inspired me to start learning how to animate years ago now. sad to see it turn out like this

[@badpiggies988]

Holy crap, Zamination too? As in, the one who collaborated with Dan Bull to make the skeleton and pigman raps? How the mighty have fallen. Good thing Dan hasn’t (yet) fallen victim to the consistency trap despite having been making MC music vids with animation quality that would make Pixar proud (courtesy of Element) for nine years. Then again that might also be because like he often says in his works he’s “also on spotify”, and maybe evaded the trap by not laying all his eggs in one basket

[@davidmarques5538]

Have you ever heard of an animator named Blue Monkey? Yeah...I have a feeling that now he is started to become like Emob and Sam with his recent(ish) warden animation where I thought the video was gonna be 18 minutes about the warden buuuuut it turns out the other same short animations were there too. Now I might be wrong when he uploads his next animation. But we may never know.

[@ed_cmntonly]

@@davidmarques5538 hell yeah agreed; blue monkey also fallen off hard 💀💀💀 were still glad the only great aka Element hasn't fallen off

[@temukizi777]

Reading the comment at 11:38, I'm afraid EMob is slowly joining the "crunch culture" by I can't imagine how he treat the animators and how much do EMob pay them..

[@kolldee3006]

I honestly think that Erkcoaster should’ve taken Syndromes advice from the Incredibles after getting this hate, being that: “You can’t count on anybody, especially your hero’s.” This is good advice if your getting hate from the person that you look up to, but responds negatively to you.

[@MoonlarkSpirits]

To be fair, I think he was a kid back then

[@crunch_is_here]

Finally someone makes a video about this. I used to enjoy their animations but when I started seeing fazbear and friends I was like "it was gonna go down from here". and it did. But I did not know about ekosecter stuff. Now that I know they aren't taking accountability for their actions I have a bad taste in my mouth.

[@EliRetroVHS642]

I mean I personally love Don't Come Crying the animation and lighting is beautiful and the models are better but Ballora should have gotten what Baby got and I completely agree with the ending B being completely unnecessary! Thankfully they fixed her design in Fazbear and Friends.

[@minirandomthechicagoboy6175]

This has also been happening with a lot of other channels, for example 3A Display followed the path of ZAM and Emob, many others have made that, and hopefully I'm wrong but I see Cubical may follow their path as well.

[@roxaclock]

This was something that I didn’t know about enchantedmob, I didn’t know about any of the corporatization or all the disgusting actions they did. I found out about the situation and this video from Twitter and this was very informative and explained everything, thank you.

[@HarryDMI]

I've been waiting for a video like this for a while. I've also wanted to make a video like this, but I think you explained it perfectly.

[@AricYouTube]

25:20 Omega63 is also my friend and I like to say that it was quite the downgrade, Seth just uses animators for most of the animations while he does the lighting. and heres another thing, have you guys seen the Fazbear and friends thumbnails, most of the thumbnails they make looks like clickbait, hear me out when I watched the circus baby turns into a zombie, it was completely the opposite of the story, it was robot zombies instead and the titles from Zam & EnchantedMob does have clickbait in them to, I wish they make actual story’s based on the thumbnail and title, and I hate how they stole Ethan’s game Venge ;(

[@SquidRumi]

So Huggy Wuggy From poppy playtime is based on Ekrcoaster's venge game right?

[@Wynn_The_Gamer]

@@SquidRumi It's very highly likely considering their history

[@threadsofsaffron]

i actually read the script for this video before it came out and i knew what was coming, but 20:16 still made me choke on my water because those are two words that should not be next to one another

[@Nugcon]

Such a big tragedy, I used to love watching their videos and I still sometimes come back and watch their old stuff from time to time.

[@Knockerz283]

I know I’m late to this video but you hit all the key points I have worked with Ethen for so long now and I remember trying my best to get him back into animation and this this is why you saw a collab from us with the “ Bendy and the ink machine” animations I wanted to try to pull the passion we both had from when we met and we made sure with the people we worked with understood the same.

[@chasebrainerd5835]

Their reputation was already ruined after the ekrcoaster situation but they somehow managed to tarnish their reputation more

[@seven-ec9xw]

This is really sad I remember seeing their animations and I quite loved them but I feel like they have taken a very bad path and what they did to ekroaster is terrible and not to mention completely ruining their reputation with nfts Great video and well explained!

[@eko9554]

I have been watching Zamination and Enchantedmob since late 2017. I wish I should’ve watched them a bit earlier. I kinda miss Enchantedmob making Fnaf music videos. Zamination used to make shorts of random characters he would create. They’re family friendly channels but only want to focus on kids.

[@velvetvessel]

Honestly while i do see the downgrade, i find genuine enjoyment out of their content even if it's stupid/flanderizes the fuck out of some of the characters, because some of the jokes and physical comedy is actually pretty good

[@AJedits65]

Trust me buddy When you watched a bunch of people’s fnaf series and comics you wouldn’t give a shit about flanderizes and admit that anyone can write these killer robots the way they want

[@velvetvessel]

@@AJedits65 i mean other series they flanderize like Monika being typical yandere instead of the most philosophical computer program in existence and Baby being a Diva and not... whatever you'd call her in SL, since the normal animatronics don't have a personality Also i get that it's an alternate universe but like, they doesn't mean they didn't get done dirty

[@AJedits65]

@@velvetvessel oh trust me seeing characters done dirty is crap but that’s the way they be bro

[@velvetvessel]

@@AJedits65 yeah. It sucks but i mean it gets balanced out by the fact i can actually enjoy the content and it's animated surprisingly well

[@theoriginalman9426]

Nah man, its just cringe and tedious, its literally baby humor made by NPCs

[@bananerbug165]

Average Enchantedmob fan vs average Black Plasma Studios enjoyer

[@Han_Niche]

NinjaCharlieT supremacists

[@bananerbug165]

Casual Element Animation watcher

[@davidmarques5538]

Casual Krefix watcher. Btw you should check him out.

[@malzasm5975]

I'm actually upset that it went from "this Undertale animation is lit" to "wtf man I just want to watch some lit shit like the foxy song series" I hate how this changed into dogshit

[@strawberryshortpup3655]

I found this video because I learned EMob made Poppy Playtime. I used to love that content. I thought this was just gonna be about how they make strange crossover animations targeted towards kids now. I wish I was right.

[@ziabuenacosa5369]

Same :€ i was there when they both started

[@GamerGamerGamer77777]

It's sad seeing this. I use to have respect for ZAMination.

[@pindol69]

Yea everybody that didint even watched him knowed him bc of his popular "its me" minecraft animation

[@GamerGamerGamer77777]

@@pindol69 and look at him now a stupid youtube kids channel

[@RRTSMPlayz]

Man, my heart got broken after seeing this, I also use to respect Zamination and EMob, now I'm very disappointed and never to look up those channels ever again..

[@russiankaiju5345]

Two beloved channels that made great music animations now corrupted by temporary trends and relevancy. Something we feared happened...

[@alyaly2355]

It hurts once I realize that I grew up with their animations.

[@EvilBandeez]

@@alyaly2355 Same.

[@RRTSMPlayz]

@@alyaly2355 same

[@davidmarques5538]

@@alyaly2355 Saaaame. I was never into FNAF so I was only there for Undertale and that "Fly again" coldplay parody.

[@tright6]

There’s a different between kid’s contend that was made with effort so that older people can appreciate the effort put into it, and kid’s content that just keeps being pumped out.

[@shallet8593]

its actually sad to see one of my fav animation channel turned into just a husk of there former selves

[@crystalcat1002]

Dude, I loved watching Universe Sandbox 2 when I was little. Thank you for using that game for your footage!

[@itsalexithink8856]

the fact that Seth played it offf on a stream at said “HerE aT enTacHantEd mOb wE treAt eVeryOne WiTh rEspEct”

[@MyBelovedGhostAndMe]

OMG ALEX HI sorry it's Leo and yeah I agree it's dumb as heck

[@boyzilla78productions]

About time someone did this

[@Nova-rd3hi]

It's pretty clear that Elizabeth Afton is not 14 in the games. You can hear her voice and, at most, she's 10.

[@united_loler]

This is pretty late, but at 10:20 , along with the example you gave, I remember along time ago, after "welcome home" Seth made a now gone video updating the direction he was gonna go with the channel, saying he was no longer gonna focus on fnaf. And from his upload schedule it shows that almost for a whole year he didn't do any fnaf content, even creating an original minecraft music video that didn't peform that well.

[@HeliosAnimation]

This is a great piece of content! Very well articulated and written.

[@omanite6129]

22:12 What logic is this By that logic enchantedmob gave us that must mean that olimar from the pikmin series must be in his 50s by now since pikmin 1, which released 2001, he's around his 30s

[@Random_guy_lol]

and apparently mario from the super mario series must be in his late 60's cuz super mario bros came out like, 35 years ago and mario was at his 20's when that game came (atleast according to emob's logic)

[@Stevejake12]

wow I was researching why enchantedmob videos changed so much. Thanks for the clarification!

[@SirToaster9330]

I had to rewind the "consistency trap" multiple times cause it sounds like what I do on my channel all the time

[@B0wl0fF00d]

Fun fact: Elizabeth is NO WHERE NEAR 14! HAS E MOB PLAYED SL? LISTEN TO HER VOICE, SHE SOUNDS 7 YEARS OLD

[@froakachu8077]

11:37 As someone who actually applied to work for them in the past, I am now so glad I was not accepted to do so now.

[@aquanas]

remember when EnchantedMob actually made good videos? Good old days

[@rectronanimations]

I miss that

[@gamertide1222]

I know I'm a little late to the party, but I completely agree with everything said here. I occasionally watch the animations I actually liked, but when I scroll up in their video feed, you can see the sudden change, not only in content, but in viewership as well.

[@realaurorien]

Ekrcoaster received a lot of hate thanks to these two channels, glad their days are being numbered, they treat their employees like trash and only have money on their mind, assholes altogether, animation sins shouldn't be left out of the lists, they were a major part of the drama with ekrcoaster, a passionate creator who just makes whatever the hell he wants.

[@syurno2220]

I remember watching their videos and then getting disappointing after the passion was starting to diminish.

[@Barrystue]

GUESS WHAT the ZAMination team had left MOB and are returning to indie animations I’m like 3 months late to this news but holy shit this is euphoric

[@SonicEXEProductions]

YES I CAN FINALLY ENJOY ZAMINATIONS AGAIN

[@r3mc1777]

Yeahhh That happened since Dont Come Crying to Me. They gone crazy

[@zisterdizzler]

They added their own horror mascot character to their shitty complications with other characters they use for views. Fazbear and Friends is basically just (Popular Character Animation). No longer it's a series based off FNaF, but about popularity. Poppy Playtime, although having potential, just looks like a better version of Bendy, and are even milking that. They are blinding people with their somewhat funny dialog and weird thumbnails and that's sad.. really sad..

[@galaxywe4155]

I never knew about the ekcrocoaster drama, I'm glad I saw this video

[@alyplanty0837]

Well informed, well explained, not sure how or why, but i would like more of these types of videos :>

[@maxthegladiator5548]

i hate that most youtubers that were actually good end up having to make videos based on whats trending now to survive with some exceptions like D. TDM still

[@GippyHappy]

I have no idea why I watched this, I don’t even know who these people are. How did I get here?! Anyway great vid, watched the whole thing, liked and subscribed.

[@Crepis]

Both of them are starting to kinda become elsagate channels since there is a new type of elsagate with popular game characters instead of tv characters

[@yarknark]

i'm sorry but idk why I found this funny: "The Year is 2021" *clip of very speedy binary black hole system* But I agree with basically all the points you made, good work!

[@HeliosAnimation]

Seth is a creative lead at the studio along with Micah and Zach P, he mostly executive produces or writes projects I think.

[@hoppie4263]

Turns out the reason for the change was to focus on there game studio

[@Turgineer]

I am a person preparing for the university exam to be a 3D Animator student in Turkey. 🇹🇷 I'm not against animations made to make money. We need money to live, bills, computers, drawing tablets, and many paid computer programs. But EnchantedMob erred in doing so and abandoned their original art, this is a problem. This is called falling. EnchantedMob's quality animations used to be exciting to me, but now it's a kids channel.

[@TycoonTitian01]

I remember when ekroaster broke away or whatever it was from zamination, crazy that what they did to him even happened

[@luigiboi4244]

I’m jealous of that other timeline where Disney didn’t shorten The Owl House, Axolotls aren’t an Endangered Species, and Zach B. never came to power.

[@PercydeRoloFangirl]

And Scott Cawthon never got doxxed.

[@marioluigi3122]

And when SMG4’s Axol character didn’t have to be the victim and the character killed off in the Genesis Arc

[@SirToaster9330]

The circus baby sexualization shouldn't count here cause a lot of animators have done it in a much more worst light, even in the official books she arouses someone

[@PosiDoesMore]

I don't remember that ever happening, but even so, just because other people did it doesn't mean this example doesn't matter

[@SirToaster9330]

@@PosiDoesMore I mean what they did wasn't THAT bad to the point of child sexualization, the scene with her bathing was censored so not much is seen was just there for comedy. Plus it seems they strayed away from that and went with a different look for her

[@theoriginalman9426]

"UgmMMM iT wAsn'T tHat BaD, iT wAs JUsT a JoKE" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@grandpalarryreadmyaboutpag7045]

Knowing the current status of Element Animation, it's pretty sad seeing channels that were the same level of quality fall into mindless money farms.

[@tatianah.a9307]

If you don't mind me asking, what happened to Element Animation? Last I've heard of them was when they made that "moon crash" animation for Hermitcraft. Did something happened?

[@grandpalarryreadmyaboutpag7045]

@@tatianah.a9307 I’m pretty sure they started animating official trailers for Minecraft.

[@tatianah.a9307]

@@grandpalarryreadmyaboutpag7045 Oh I know that. Your comment sorta implied to me that Element did something or is going through something, so that's why I asked.

[@grandpalarryreadmyaboutpag7045]

@@tatianah.a9307 oh, sorry about that lol

[@theasm03]

I stopped watching Zam a while ago because it's hard for me personally to prefer short videos over full stories, but that's just me

[@pindol69]

Remeber the good old days when he made his series "AFTON PART 1","AFTON PART 2","AFTON PART 3",AFTON PART4",AFTON PART 5 and afton PART 6 And then he made all of them into one big video...The good old days but now hes doing those cringey animations and zero music video

[@Ink_Bendy_414]

The only thing that has actual passion from zamonation is Poppy playtime. But I wonder how long that will last

[@hypertension4023]

istg, poppy playtime rocks. if they mess that up…

[@mr.timusproductions116]

@@hypertension4023 I'm so sorry if you have not found out-

[@hypertension4023]

Mr. Timus Productions oh god. found out about what??????!???

[@mr.timusproductions116]

@@hypertension4023 they sold NFTs. Of Poppy Playtime.

[@hypertension4023]

Mr. Timus Productions h u h ????????…?.?.?..

[@deathsinger1192]

I`ve actually never watched one of these channels, and I have zero Idea what FNAF is about, yet still, thats shocking, also its always sad to see a KZbin channels downfall, lets hope something like this will never happen to BPS!

[@trainerlsw]

I was a fan of ZAMination for a while now, but I would soon resign, as their animations are now very weird and... not good. I’ve always enjoyed their animated songs. The last song they animated that I watched was Zombie Girl (which still to this day, is awesome). Still, when they started to post these “Fazbear & Friends.” animations, I immediately noped out because it’s not the channel I recognized.

[@Oyflim_The_Great]

You seem to be the only KZbin Channel talking about this.

[@smithwarden4448]

Just Monika and FNAF videos are the best music videos of Zamination now it changed

[@PosiDoesMore]

Dude Just Monika is amazing. It's sad to see they went from that to the stuff they make now.

[@MarVarDRAGON]

*Just Like GameToons, It Is Also Caught In The Consistent Content Trap.*

[@chasebrainerd5835]

👍 yes

[@bananerbug165]

quick note the apology that Zamination posted is still up

[@bananerbug165]

@Yami The NTNBF2008 Hater no it was about the harassment towards Ethan

[@laylathelpsqueen65]

I had an question Is it okay to only love poppy playtime and not the creators who made that game?

[@PosiDoesMore]

I absolutely encourage you to separate art from artist. You can love the game as long as you're aware of the scummy behaviour of its creators.

[@laylathelpsqueen65]

@@PosiDoesMore oh thanks!

[@matthewmcbride778]

@@laylathelpsqueen65 what happened??

[@laylathelpsqueen65]

@@matthewmcbride778 idk-

[@MeemahSN]

ELIZABETH AFTON IS *NOT* 14! SHE HAS CANON VOICE LINES IN SISTER LOCATION THAT GIVE OFF THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE’S 10 *AT MOST*

[@PercydeRoloFangirl]

I think she's more like around 6 or something.

[@marioluigi3122]

@@PercydeRoloFangirl well… Fnaf lore is complicated and the canonical ages of the spirits who haunt the animatronics are unknown at the current time.

[@giannamation]

I used to like that Don’t Come Crying animation; never really noticed the sexualized stuff until recently :(

[@MasterDelta]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Animation Lobby... because oh my goodness that is a dumpster fire of a Minecraft Animation KZbin channel! 🤣 Besides that... I'm glad that someone made a video calling out the problems EnchantedMob and ZAMination have with there KZbin channel

[@dubhaxxd3246]

Oh them…

[@venomcarnage2237]

Yeah I saw

[@Bonnie_2.0]

In the comment sections, I've tried to reason with Zamination to put more love into their work. But of course, they don't read their comments, and if they do, they are clearly ignoring them. And I don't care if they are still loved by those people who are blinded by the truth, they need to fix their content if they want to be able to make it through the next few years. Otherwise, they won't be cared about by anyone, even if they fix what their channel has become. They might not be able to come back from this, and that really sucks, because they used to be so good. Even their Fazbear and Friends series used to look bright, but now they've screwed it up.

[@SirToaster9330]

They keep animating shorts and stuff rather than actual videos. I miss their music videos

[@DJIsDumb]

I am so disappointed of what the channels were turned into

[@ihatelife5464]

In all honesty if you had heard about what they did long ago, they deserve for their channel to be a downfall, lmao. If you have any questions, I can link you some stuff.

[@PosiDoesMore]

What else did they do that I didn't know about?

[@ihatelife5464]

@@PosiDoesMore they also impersonated Ekroaster and typed stuff that Ekroaster would usually not say. They also literally kept making sin videos on Ekroaster’s animation video when Ekroaster kept telling them “can you pls stop sinning my videos? You don’t have permission.” But then Seth replied “the whole point of sinning is to make sure that animators can do better” but yet, Seth used the sin videos in the wrong way (another words that he took things way too far with sin videos).

[@cappedminer369]

@@ihatelife5464 What ??? They did ????? Wtf !!!! Those bastards !!!!

[@spardazinblackcoat3544]

@@ihatelife5464 they fucking impersonated the poor boy? Are you kidding me? Was this in Ethans document? Edit: sorry about my language but im just so furious

[@ihatelife5464]

@@spardazinblackcoat3544 it probably wasn’t shown in the document, but long ago I was in the server and some people who hated Ekrcoaster are EnchantedMob fanboys and impersonated him by changing their names and joining the discord server and did typed horrible things.

[@SirToaster9330]

one small critique: BPS does instruct people what to make, but they do it on a smaller scale

[@Bodacious_Crustacious]

Minecraft Animation Community is like an endless desert: Dry and hot as Hell and you'll very rarely find a diamond in the rough.

[@eternalerror_404]

Actually, I can still find the apology comment on the ZAM Q & A channel

[@laylathelpsqueen65]

I can guess it's not pinned, right?

[@eternalerror_404]

@@laylathelpsqueen65 yeah it isn’t pinned

[@brqe]

I remember when I used to watch so much ZAManimation and Enchantedmob when I was little. I would watch Enchanted's live streams when he would animate fnaf or shorts and when I would comment in the chat he would actually respond to me, which was like my only dream, since I looked up to him alot with animation. I remember one time when he was replying to me on stream again and he said, "Everytime I look up I keep seeing your comments,[i forgot my old username]. It's funny." That made my kid heart so happy, it sucks to see what they become. 😐

[@JDDimensions]

Finally someone who actually noticed this happen, I swear as soon as I saw the first fnaf music video uploaded, I said and quote “welp guess zamination is gonna be another underrated channel fallen from grace”