The Dramatic Injustice of the January 6th Pardons

[@maurices5954]

Oh boy! When i saw the title of the video was "The Dramatic Injustice of the January 6th Pardons" I instantly knew the comment section would not disappoint!

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@robabiera733]

It's hard to even think of it as a narrative given the ever-shifting excuses spiraling around the assertion that "what we did was right".

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@cas343]

Here for the comments lol

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@benbayer5943]

Counting the people with opinions about a video they clearly didn't watch is always amusing.

[@franklincarroll6772]

We have all heard ARI's take on this a million times already. If ARI were capable of original thinking, you might have a point.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@SCCCC1]

Unsubscribed

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out and don't go away mad: Just go away

[@hyperreal]

Finally

[@BARRIE-Chgo]

I always forget the ones who hurt people!

[@franklincarroll6772]

Do you mean the police officer who shot Ashley Babbit? Only Trump supporters were seriously harmed that day.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@alejandroduran4400]

I an an Objectivist and I find this presentation ignorant and anti-reality. Most arrests were people walking through open doors, doors opened from the inside. The police never told the crowd to disperse and instead starting shooting rubber bullets at the crowd and throwing flash bangs and tear gas grenades. Cops violated their authorized limits on force. On top of this there were FBI informants in the crowd who instigated destruction of property. On top that there were capitol police dressed as Trump supports inside and outside the capitol fomenting antagonism. THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB!! THE FACTS ALREADY OUT AND THE VIDEO DETAIL EXTACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THERE IS ZERO DISPUTE WITH THE VIDEO EVIDENCE!!!

[@franklincarroll6772]

@JhiinTraxx Leftists enter the House and disturb proceedings all the time, all the time, and don't receive any sentence. They do this without being invited in. You understand that the police opened the doors and invited people in, right? And everyone has the right to protest in front of the building. So your premise is simply false. You cannot invite people in, literally ushering them in, and then say they have no right to be there. Familiarize yourself with the actual timeline of that day. What is hilarious is your double standard. Conservatives deserve years in prison and solitary confinement for entering a building whose doors were open to them but liberals can disrupt hearings with outbursts and receive no prison time at all. Don't you know that justice requires fair and objective standards? You have no right to call yourself an objectivist.

[@matthewstroud4294]

I doubt that you are a follower of Objectivism.

[@franklincarroll6772]

@@matthewstroud4294 I doubt that anyone who takes ARI seriously at this point is one.

[@Bummer873]

Ayn Rand is rolling in her grave right now.

[@NeoJRPG]

When she sees how many people think she would be MAGA, I'm sure she does roll in her grave

[@LocutusBorgOf]

@@Bummer873 And this shows just how little you know. Ayn Rand would probably be wanting Qanon Shaman to be thrown under the jail. She lived through the worst of the Russian Revolution and you think she would be ok with the conservative racist collectivist rioters??? Were you to have a proper mind you would be ashamed of yourself, so I'll forgive you, for you know nothing

[@hyperreal]

Sure 😂 She would have nothing to do with Trumpistan

[@Bummer873]

More like she would have been aghast at the keeping of political prisoners just like mother Russia and would boot these clowns from the organization for advocating for it.

[@NeoJRPG]

@@Bummer873 None of these people are imprisoned for their politics. There is video evidence of them breaking American law and they all passed through the due process of the American court system

[@ableasdale2000]

Worst take I've seen on this channel.

[@hyperreal]

You have TMS trump mindlessness syndrome

[@Shozb0t]

If you keep looking, you are bound to find other channels which will tell you what you want to hear.

[@lefantomer]

They are an embarrassment. There were people in those prisons for nothing more than standing around the rotunda talking to cops. Elan and Ben know that perfectly well. Furthermore, the damned DeMarxocRats did cheat on the election and they know that too.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@bruce4130]

1500 people should never been put in jail! Out of 1500 people a few bad apples need to be dealt with a trial like every other citizen!

[@zigorystudios]

This is key. The blanket pardon is wrong but clearly a large number were unjustly jailed. There should have been a careful review rather than a blanket pardon.

[@sdrc92126]

@@zigorystudios "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" B Franklin vs "It is better to imprison twenty (for some reason the number was twenty) innocent men than to risk the life of a single soviet soldier or worker." V Lenin

[@misterlyle.]

@@zigorystudios There have been various mentions about the cases being reviewed prior to this week. Trump answered the question about the ones who actually had been violent, saying that they had already served years before he commuted the remainder of their sentence.

[@IanGilmore]

All of the 1500 people were given full trials.

[@MatthewNapier-y3e]

​@@sdrc92126 VS 'it is better to release only the innocent and keep the guilty in jail' - ARI

[@sztone6]

These guys: Our beliefs should be guided by the facts. Also these guys: Don't believe your eyes or use your own ability to reason, the govt will tell you what the facts are. Believe whatever the govt says. This whole video just seems like propaganda, next time maybe have a third person with a dissenting opinion

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@bruce4130]

Dislike button goes viral! 😅

[@Digiphex]

You have disgraced Ayn Rand’s name you charlatans.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@tomburroughes9834]

How do you know what Rand would have thought about the disgraceful scenes of Jan 6, 2021.

[@filmNoirInc]

Ahhhh, so this is just a 'Dem/Lefty/Marxist' channel now,, Any Rand would have nothing to do with you people, and so I will have nothing to do with you either,, Un,Subbe'd and good riddance

[@kphaxx]

In the comments section: people who barely read Rand, heard she was right-wing so mindlessly thought she was "one of us", and are shocked when they find out that ARI doesn't support MAGA terrorism.

[@hyperreal]

😂 Who?

[@Shozb0t]

You may recall that Rand didn’t like Reagan. And Reagan is 267 times better than Trump. You can’t escape math.

[@lefantomer]

@@Shozb0t Not as much better as you might think. Things went on with the approval of the Reagan White House that were in no way rights-respecting.

[@lefantomer]

And by the way, Trump is trying to expose some of what has gone on but in some cases is barred by "issues of national security". Hopefully that can be overcome because that excuse is bogus.

[@tomburroughes9834]

Quite sad to read the comments from people claiming that Rand would have endorsed the actions of those who broke into the Capitol and do what they did. Some say they condemn ARI and have unsubscribed. Well, good bye.

[@topcat2527]

Wow, I had no idea that the Ayn Rand Institute has gone so far left. Unsubscribe!

[@NeoJRPG]

I think the ARI is doing a good job of keeping Ayn Rand's philosophy alive. Rand would be completely against Trump's "war on reality"

[@kphaxx]

Thank you for contributing to the recent increase in the quality of ARI's subscribers.

[@topcat2527]

@@NeoJRPG where is the video lambasting Biden’s pardons? This is nothing but left-wing propaganda.

[@NeoJRPG]

@@topcat2527 Who did Biden pardon that attacked police and attempted to undermine the U.S. constitution?

[@hotfudgemoney]

@@NeoJRPG War on reality, LOL. Yes, let us all aspire to the claim that whatever we believe is what Ayn Rand would've thought. Pathetic. Her writings stand on their own, all these years later. We don't need this pathetic grifters attempting to bolster their own careers careening off of her legacy.

[@jeremyeberhard4043]

Ayn Rand would be disgusted by this video…I feel like I’m watching MSNBC

[@tomburroughes9834]

Would she?

[@glwordsmith]

So many trolls here. So transparent. Great points by Elan and Ben.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

@@glwordsmith Classic Blank out thought-terminating cliché. Everyone that disagrees with me is a troll

[@bradw2k]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@glwordsmith]

@@ExistenceUniversity Everyone who relies on personal attacks with zero arguments, zero facts, is a troll.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

@glwordsmith Calling everyone that disagrees with you a troll is a "personal attack with zero argument." Moron

[@snakeinthegrass20]

What on earth is this? It was an angry protest and a few people went a bit far and were overzealously persecuted. Why do Objectivist academics miss the mark on so many current issues?

[@NeoJRPG]

Our prisons are filled with people who went a bit far and broke the law. Should they all be released?

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

Yeah: Just like Cancer is a few cells having a good timee

[@MatthewNapier-y3e]

perhaps because the people that "went too far" appear to be getting released, according to the episode

[@toplel1860]

They arent heros a few did go overboard and should be in jail but most were at most just trespassing but were prosecuted way too aggressively because Democrats drool at the thought of throwing their opposition in prison. Far worse riots happen all the time and most people do not get the kind of jail time that was given to these people you guys can thank obama for our current political climate, all of this radical left vs right bs started with him. Now we have trump pardoning people that don't deserve it and biden pardoning his cronies including his drug addicted son who has committed a long list of very illegal activities.

[@GilesMcRiker]

It also occurred in an historical context in which far more egregious violent riots and protests were either ignore, condoned and or encouraged by all mainstream liberal tilting institutions.

[@drixcel2741]

ARI tries to be anti-tribal in the same way DEI tries to be anti-racist

[@Shozb0t]

If you want ARI to speak highly of your favorite politician, then find a better politician. There’s no other way.

[@IlluminatiLand]

Unsubscribed from this worthless tripe, you are a disgrace to the name of Ayn Rand

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@tomburroughes9834]

Bye.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

The institute today is a total disgrace

[@LocutusBorgOf]

You are a disgrace at any given time

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

Boy, I bet you used a whole box of Reynolds Wrap to make that hat!

[@ExistenceUniversity]

@SpacePatrollerLaser Its a conspiracy theory now? Can you people think?

[@ExistenceUniversity]

​@@LocutusBorgOf good one fat boy

[@hyperreal]

The trumpers are really out in full force today

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

He said he'd do it, which sealed my Democratic vote; But hey: Birds of a feather flocik together. Imagine e. Axiting the Paris accords and other good things being package-deal'ed with this kind of thing. If there is any justice in this, the police union supported this Felon in Chief. What this says about the moral status American People, and Rand's estimate of them, is devastating

[@riccirohde3362]

the fact you say "Felon in Chief" shows you are not objective about any of this.

[@NeoJRPG]

@@riccirohde3362 Objective doesn't mean politically-neutral, anyone found guilty of a felony is a felon by definition

[@pabis6817]

⁠​⁠@@NeoJRPG😂 for the “Felon in chief” comment. Do you understand what he was “convicted” for supposedly doing? His bookkeepers writing “Business expense” in his books for a legal payment. Many times which his attorney, every attorney non partisan attorney in the Us legal system says that EVERY business does which at most is a misdemeanor ( it’s never been charged to anyone) much less has anyone had these compiled to equal “19 felonies”. It’s insanity! The absolutely made up charges, charged him so they could label him a felon. Now that’s before you find out that they Jan 6. Committee has admitted there were hundreds of federal agents in Jan 6 crowd. That antifa operatives admitted to being paid to “cause trouble” that ALL the people Biden just blanket pardoned destroyed ALL the evidence that they compiled for Jan 6 investigations. Some of these people were given sentences of 15 yrs for PRAYING ON THE STEPS of the capital!

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

@@riccirohde3362 Trump has been found culpable in a couple of "cooking the books" felonies the status of which are still standing and he has been put in the highest office of the land. These are both FACTS OF REALITY: the "A" in "A is A". The existants in "Existence Exists".Do yourself a favor and go study Objectivism from the beiginng. It will be a new experience for you and prove enlightening. The facts are so glaring that it would require an massive evasion on my part to NOT observe that the Felon in Chief IS the Felon in Chief. Why does that get to you to the point that you indulge in overt projection?

[@lefantomer]

You voted for Kackles? SHAME ON YOU.

[@obiwell]

Unsubbed

[@zardozcys2912]

43:25 how would you challenge the blanket pardons? Cannot refer the case to a constitutional court like in Canada unless there is an actual prosecution? So first a prosecutor would have to lay a charge, defendant argues they have a pardon, prosecution raises the constitutional question so court can now hear evidence to make s decision?

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@gila-clifffirewood5796]

What bullshit. You just lost a subscriber. Mrs. Rand would be ashamed of you all.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@tomburroughes9834]

Bye. What makes anyone think that AR would have condoned what happened?

[@merlepatterson]

Condemning rioting is different than being charged with insurrection. Apples and Oranges

[@NeoJRPG]

A riot may involve a great deal of property damage, but it becomes insurrection if its aim is to undermine a constitutional proceeding

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@helenhamann7419]

All those people were unjustly charged, but these clowns forget to point out that for a misdemeanor -- instigated by none other than the FBI and its minions, which was characterized by the moronic media as an "insurrection" (never heard of an insurrection without guns), they were subjected to the most despicable acts of violence in jail by their jailers and unelected officials. It is now perfectly known what they were subjected to, so I am not going to go through the gruesome tortures inflicted on them. Just because of this abuse of power reminiscence of the jail systems of a third world country or the KGB, Trump has the right and the obligation to right a wrong by pardoning all these people. And even after that, some mayors and jail officials are kidnapping the prisoners and not allowing them to be released. This last act is insubordination and should not be condoned. Do this clowns talk about that? Of course not. All they have been able to do during these last few years is express their TDS over and over again. No OBJECTIVE understanding of reality here. This institute is an oxymoron.

[@Rob-ed8lh]

Context dropping. This philosophy cannot exist without a Rand or Peikoff. There's no ref and these snobs are running it into the ground.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@rnw2032]

The philosophy exists. These clowns can do damage to its perception by others but they can’t ruin the actual philosophy. Existence exists A is a Consciousness is identification

[@PeterFranklinFoxfireRealEstate]

Wow. Disappointing. As on Objectivist, one has to start with reality. This is very strange coming from the Ayn Rand Institute.

[@franklincarroll6772]

No, ARI is now a rationalist institute that has abandoned Ayn Rand's philosophy. It is not surprising at all. They also believe in the "many genders" nonsense which is a denial of the law of identity. ARI started dying when Peikoff was no longer involved in its day to day operations.

[@hyperreal]

You are defending political violence. You are no objectivist.

[@franklincarroll6772]

@ I don't see any defense of political violence in his comments. Maybe you should read something other than the New York Times. You realize there are people who were INVITED IN by the CAPITAL POLICE and were charged with felonies, right? You call yourself an objectivist but you can't even be bothered to familiarize yourself with the facts of that day. And you assume all the offenders are the same. You know Trump did not pardon all of the offenders, right? Just the non-violent ones. That there is a difference between a pardon and a commutation. And there were individuals who did not have a pardon or a commutation. Again, a failure to familiarize yourselves with the facts. Typical rationalists. Lastly, there is political violence in Ayn Rand's novels. You probably don't even remember Ragnar Danneskjöld from Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand did not condone political violence in all cases.

[@defectiveindustries]

​@@hyperrealYou have a strange definition of violence

[@lefantomer]

@@hyperreal WE are "defending political violence"??? For standing up against the Marxist gang that supported everything from riots over the criminal George Floyd to the COVID lockdowns? PLEASE.

[@kmeisenbach1]

"oblivious to facts" = religious thinking

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@leonidt7]

I admire Ayn Rand's philosophy and you compromise her name and ideas. I'm unsubscribing from the channel.

[@johnmicheal3547]

+1

[@hotdayrun]

I still subscribe, just to see what TDS looks like.

[@lefantomer]

Alas, that is the only reason left. I can only hope that ARI will regain its sanity some time in the further. As for now, while I will always be an Objectivst, this gang is dead to me.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@MagruderSpoots]

It was a legal protest that got out of hand. A small number of people were charged with assaulting police officers, and rightly so. But most people simply walked through the Capital and were jailed for that. One grandmother was jailed even though she actually was there hours after the riot happened.

[@franklincarroll6772]

Facts don't matter to ARI any longer. They are no longer objectivist but rationalist. That is why they are context dropping.

[@lefantomer]

Exactly.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

Are you allowed to enter restricted capital grounds? NO!

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@lefantomer No, not "exactly." Are you allowed to enter restricted capital grounds? NO!

[@franklincarroll6772]

@@hellothere-hx5by And if the police literally invite the crowd in? Don't you think it is a little deceptive on the part of the police to open the doors and then say "you broke the law."

[@furtrapper11]

An unarmed insurrection or coup with the assistance of capital police holding doors open. Many imprisoned insurrectionist never even entered the building.

[@johngleue]

@@furtrapper11 ARI is against the nonthinking blanket pardon. There are guilty amongst them who knowingly did real harm. It's tribal to just give them all a pass.

[@furtrapper11]

@@johngleue It's better to release 100 guilty than to imprision 1 innocent.

[@johngleue]

@furtrapper11 So the dichotomy we are faced with is keeping them all in prison or letting them all go? These guys are saying that real criminals have just been pardoned, and because they were on the side of Trump and lumped in with the other non-violent participants of the incident, they'll evade justice. This wasn't the only way to help the innocent. It's not an all or nothing thing. That's the point being made in the video.

[@johngleue]

@furtrapper11 This particular method showcases exactly how the government prefers to work. It's one size fits all, always. No thinking involved.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@furtrapper11 That is true, but that applies for when the alternative is release 100 guilty or imprison one innocent. The third alternative would be to actually pardon the people that didn't do anything instead of having a blanket pardon.

[@bb7851]

The worst take. Unsubscribing. This is not objective. The truth will come out soon.

[@hyperreal]

😂 Its not an airport no need to announce your departure

[@bb7851]

@ it’s called feedback and I have the right to voice my opinions 🤣

[@bradknuppel2491]

Oh my goodness! Yup the comments are exactly what you would think. I, too, am disappointed that this issue is being handled in this manner from this institution.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@moedemama]

Disgraceful.. unsubscribing

[@hyperreal]

Oh no whatever will they do…

[@kevinscottbjornson]

Elan speaks with forked tongue. Trump condemns the violence and didn't pardon those who engaged in it. So, right off the bat he starts out with a false a-priori assumption (likely based on his own warped psychology). Virtually all the violence was directed against the mostly peaceful protestors, most of whom were invited in, and the ones who broke in or trespassed were likely inspired by FBI undercover agents and have been handed long sentences. While Antifa rioters and arsonists roam free with narry a whisper of protest from ARI. None of the protestors were armed. The one killed was a beautiful young lady patriot veteran who was murdered by an armed guard with a long record of disciplinary issues. Speaking of violence, the DOJ had been weaponized against anybody who protested against the semi-rigged 2020 election. The ARI has been captured by bad actors with bad motives. At least Yaron makes a half-hearted effort at balance. Those in this video are unhinged and unethical.

[@IanGilmore]

So many lies. Trump did pardon those who engaged in violence. And many of the rioters were armed. For just one example - Christopher Alberts, who was pardoned, had been convicted of numerous felonies including "Unlawful Possession of a Firearm on Capitol Grounds or Buildings". He was carrying a loaded 9mm pistol (a Taurus G2C) when captured after leading the charge and attacking police.

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@debbieurosevic3578]

Unsubscribed. Terrible take.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

Same

[@Shozb0t]

Why were you subscribed in the first place? This isn’t a channel that tells people what they want to hear.

[@lefantomer]

@@Shozb0t These guys are telling the Marxist Left what they want to hear. That's not supposed to be their job, but I guess it's easier.

[@garrettgarcia2592]

The comments are full of trolls who know nothing about Rand or Objectivism and cheer on political violence. Well said, Ben and Elan!

[@whackamole4909]

the "trial" was political violence

[@NeoJRPG]

@@whackamole4909 Do you not believe in the rule of law? Ayn Rand did, she encouraged evidence-based prosecution of those who violated the law and praised how the U.S. set up its judiciary

[@riccirohde3362]

The vast majority of people here are not cheering on political violence. They are making the claim it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer The fact the 1000+ people have been unjustifiably prosecuted and sentenced to ridiculous time means that all the prosecutions are questionable.

[@NeoJRPG]

@@riccirohde3362 Who was found guilty that hadn't trespassed on government property by pushing past police in an attempt to interrupt Congress?

[@lefantomer]

@@riccirohde3362 Excellent point. Thank you.

[@michaelholland6231]

I'm from the UK,my name is michael, I use objectivism every day as stated by Ayn Rands philosophy, I use her teachings every day in the job I do. I do as I say and Say as I do. The glasses dude is compromised.

[@hyperreal]

You are no objectivist, your mind is compromised

[@brianthomas3910]

Unsubscribe

[@johnmicheal3547]

I'm here for Ayn Rand words and teaching. not to listen to these nuts practically go against her teaching/words. A few times I did want to unsub. This too makes me want to unsub.

[@Chris67-p9v]

Thanks for the video ben and elan. Unfortunately the defenders of the blanket pardon represents a troubling rise in tribalism, as well as the closely related rise in the acceptance of political violence in America.

[@riccirohde3362]

Yes, political violence is bad but the argument is that you would have to re prosecute all 1500 cases in a neutral state to find out who was actually violent and while you do that innocent people are unjustifiably sitting in jail and have been for the last 4 years. As far as I am concerned it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer. This means we have to deal with the fact some people will get away with political violence in this case.

[@Chris67-p9v]

@riccirohde3362 Maybe this would be believable if ongoing/cases waiting for trial were not pardoned as well as the violent cases well beyond a reasonable doubt. In the weeks before the almost complete pardon trump and Vance said that it would be only for peaceful protestors or those who weren't "radical, crazy".

[@chrisdryer]

Nope. It was a set up and a two tier justice system if you consider DisruptJ20, George Floyd riots in DC… 3 times the police presence and much more violent but the judges let them go because they felt like their rights would be imposed on if they used the CCTV cameras and social media. Also there were instigators in the crowd and no plan before the event to do anything but wait for Trump to say anything… it never did. The dude in the glasses is a dork. “Oh Trump knew his theories were false… even when debunked”… sort of hard to believe anything when there is so much bias.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@riccirohde3362 Who is arguing to re prosecute pardoned people?

[@riccirohde3362]

​@ Did you even read what I said? I said that the alternative to a blanket pardon of everyone is to re try ALL the cases because the malicious prosecution & sentencing of non violent individuals means you can not trust the prosecution & sentencing of violent ones. The whole system was used for political means and justice was not served for anyone who was arrested after J6.

[@arlmedarl]

💙 Sadly one is required to, on this platform, listen to the usual 'opinions' instead of references by Ayn Rand's wisdom, her philiosophy of understanding the behaviour, the explanations of what and how to see, to find solutions. Guys, these talks are oh so boringly repetitive. Stop it with the hollywood drama. Speak Randian .... 💙

[@williamswig]

You mistake justice for injustice. Shameful.

[@EpicBaldGuy]

These guys didn't watch the tapes that were given to Tucker Carlson.

[@hyperreal]

Ah yes tucker karlmarxon, a bastion of truth

[@ableasdale2000]

Tapes. Raw footage. What don't you understand about that? ​@@hyperreal

[@hyperreal]

@@ableasdale2000 only showing scenes with the least amount of political violence. What don’t you understand about that?

[@EpicBaldGuy]

@@hyperreal so you acknowledge that there were some people at the capital that day that did not commit violent crime or destruction of property?

[@lefantomer]

There's such a thing as not wanting to be confronted with the facts when you have already made up your mind. Apparently these two operate on that basis.

[@davidanalyst671]

Ayn Rand is run by a bunch of Karens.

[@lefantomer]

She would not be happy. But she is not here.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

As of today, the Ayn Rand Institute stands for the idea that an entire nation should be held as guilty to ensure the prosecution of a few actually guilty parties. No doubt they will argue that everyone in the comments here is also to be seen as a guilty party

[@lefantomer]

Rand always said she didn't approve of such an organization in her name. Now we know why.

[@johngleue]

@@ExistenceUniversity They're against the "one size fits all" policies of the government. It's nonthinking to just grant a blanket pardon to EVERYONE. You're being dishonest with your comment.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

@johngleue Have you heard about Biden?

[@hellothere-hx5by]

That's not the issue. Elan and Ben are against the pardon being indiscriminate. That is not the same as supporting indiscriminate prosecutions.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

@hellothere-hx5by No, these boys are just hiding very very very important information

[@dr.winstonsmith]

Unsubbed from this foolish, short-sighted, and dangerous take. Disgraceful.

[@hyperreal]

C ya!

[@marcuscreasy6195]

Excellent summary of the events and great job on giving a very reasonable perspective! I have two uncles and three cousins who were at the capital that day. Btw they were armed. To hear them talk it was a big tailgating party that “got a little out of hand”. All five of there men are pastors of evangelical churches so I think they had no intention to be violent. I am curious what you might say about the mentality of people who show up to that event with guns with no intention to be violent only to intimidate. Thanks!

[@geekonomist]

When is Giuliani getting his pardon?

[@WhoIsJohnGaltt]

this is a message i sent through the new ideal contact us. i wanted to post it here not only because it cut off my ending because of an unsaid character limit it seems. but also because over the years ive seen i never get any replies when using these recaptcha chat message entries. Hi there! i am very well aware that this topic has been done to death. however i would really like some help quelling some of my problems i have with the current stance on abortion. specifically that being that separation is the point of where rights kick in. as i understand it the current position is that separation is the point where rights begin. however i see certain scenarios that are contradictory with this choosing point. but just a second i want a preface of where im coming from. if you look at 2 pictures side by side. one of a man and the other of a deer what is the difference? why do we say we "murdered" a man but "killed" a deer? what is the difference? the difference is the man has an "I" he has a self. and because of having that "I" he has rights. the deer has no "I" thus he has no rights. so this is my starting point. that "I" is what determines having rights or not. however this is not the point the institute has chosen to stand on. instead it is merely "separation". but there is situation in real life that shows this cannot be the case. the situation of that is with conjoined twins. conjoined twins NEVER become completely independent entities. bodies fused together in some cases where they share whole organs. but yet it is unthinkable to say they dont have rights because they dont have unseparated autonomy. so it seems to me the REAL starting point to choose when abortion should happen is when the fetus then forms an "I". which im confident happens at some point in the brain development. however this is a problem. because we concretely dont know where the "I" is. or even WHAT it is. which leaves us with a problem of making a choice. cause it seems if you lack this knowledge the only way to make a judgement is if you can OSTENSIBLY prove there is an "I". which i real dont know much about babies development but i dont think you could prove that until 3 months after birth. which i find unstomachable to think that after birth killing would be okay. so what do you make of this? and how do you make this seeming contradiction nonconflict with the current stance. again thank you very much ive learned alot from you guys for quite awhile now.

[@damientdubose]

Pretty sad when Trump's logic is closer to reality than your philosopher's.

[@hyperreal]

“Trump’s logic” 😂

[@damientdubose]

@hyperreal many people tend to think they're smarter than they are just because they're interested in philosophy

[@weav8060]

Totally disagree. Enumerate the facts

[@joecoolmccall]

I don't know why anyone is surprised. This has been this channel's position on the topic since the beginning.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

^ *Me trying to tell this audience for like 7 years now lol

[@hyperreal]

@@joecoolmccall the usual handful of trumpers that wander on here with no clue about objectivism, reality, or ayn rand. They usually unsubscribe when they realize ARI also criticize the right aka the trump party. Then more of them show up later ♻️ 😂 its a good way of culling the bad apples

[@pabis6817]

Wtf is this ?

[@hyperreal]

Reality

[@Ailsworth]

There are certainly more elegant ways to express a total misunderstanding of right to assemble. I finally understand what "Obleftivism" means.

[@mr.b5489]

Like BLM in 2020?

[@Biologist19681]

Correct. Your understanding of the right to assemble is just off. The right to assemble does not include violently attacking the police and breaking into the Capitol building in an effort to stop the legal process of certifying an election.

[@LocutusBorgOf]

@@Ailsworth You have freedom of speech, and you squander it by uttering nonsense. Off with you.

[@Shozb0t]

@@Ailsworth When both the “left” and the “right” are opposed to a certain organization, then it will be unpopular. But that hardly means that it is completely unworthy of consideration. ARI will continue to attract those people who are eager for a reason-based philosophy.

[@Ailsworth]

@@Biologist19681 Oh, right. The Constitution is not relevant, is it? The State was under attack! It's only proper, right, for a felon to pardon felons?

[@misterlyle.]

In all things, opposing perspectives are essential and often useful. There is no benefit from silencing viewpoints that may seem disagreeable. Choosing to live in an echo-chamber is unwise, dangerous, and ultimately heading for catastrophe. Wrong or right, enlightened or misguided, all should be available to be heard.

[@rickproctor6693]

This tube with your dialogue has forced me to get off this and move forward!

[@martialjohntx]

So much for fair and speedy trials.

[@dmitrynegoda9347]

If unarmed protestants meeting at a public place are terrorists, what's their view of Thomas Jefferson?

[@hellothere-hx5by]

Unauthorized entrance into restricted capitol grounds is not lawful.

[@dmitrynegoda9347]

@@hellothere-hx5by Military coup against the King was even less lawful.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@ Is the US so broken that it warrants a military coup? is the US a monarchy? No. The US has its problems, but it is worth preserving, unlike an autocratic government. Public property is created for specific usages, and no person or group of people may lawfully usurp those uses for their own ends. The capitol grounds were restricted for a reason: the protect the counting of electoral votes. Anyone threatening the security of counting of electoral votes is in the wrong. US is not so bad of a country that people are justified in threatening the US's rule of law.

[@dmitrynegoda9347]

@@hellothere-hx5by Just point out that legality is not an argument. You can't compare, of cource, a peaceful meeting to a bloody revolution. No attempts to remove the government were made on January 6, obviously. And yes, today US gov ain't better than a monarchy.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

12:40 100% projecting what he is doing at this moment

[@edbonz2]

Excellent podcast and analysis. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS MATTER VITALLY. TY ARI & DRs. $

[@NeoJRPG]

Thank you! Most of the comments here are from people with zero understanding of Rand's philosophy

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

​@@NeoJRPGSo she endorsed wholesale imprisonment of political dissidents? If so (which I doubt) she can rot where she lays

[@NeoJRPG]

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 The highly witnessed attempt to overthrow election results through force is the crime being discussed, political dissidents who did not engage in the crime are not being discussed here

[@MCCrleone354]

29:03 “There are people who built the gallows, this wasn’t just a stunt.” Yes it was! The gallow was 3 feet tall! 😂 It’s laughable that you were scared of it once you see how small that was! Ya couldn’t use it to hang anybody.

[@To.Ma.To_78]

wait a second-why does this video have an over fifty percent disapproval rating?! I'm appalled!

[@diego-j7v2x]

I am unfollowing this institution and this KZbin channel. Obviously Trump is an amoralist, nationalist and populist. But the interlocutors of this video forgot or did not want to contextualize the facts. The invasion was carried out because there was no credibility in the exceptional format in which the election was held in view of the pressure of the quarantine. Obviously, printed voting is the safest way to vote. Well, keep your eyes open because this team at the Ayn Rand Institute is already sold out and is biased. They do not represent Ayn Rand. Good luck, or bad luck.

[@hotfudgemoney]

You must be stupid, too.

[@thedoctor26]

Wow. I guess I’m more removed from mainstream “Objectivism” than I thought.

[@ExistenceUniversity]

No they are!!!

[@Helmutandmoshe]

It is so nice to see Ayn Rand's followers have finally become progressive. We welcome you to the party!

[@NeoJRPG]

Ayn Rand has always been anti-authoritarianism

[@riccirohde3362]

Well said.

[@birchstudio2900]

ITS GREAT YOU STAND UP FOR DEMOCRACY! NOT CHOOSING LEFT OR RIGHT AGENDA BUT BEING HONEST ABOUT MARGINALS

[@susanmarie7777]

There’s no injustice!!! Boo hoo!

[@defectiveindustries]

Call self Objectivist Is not Objective Makes sense

[@lefantomer]

Exactly. TDS and nothing more.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@lefantomer There are two kinds of TDS. TDS against Trump, and TDS for Trump. A lot of people in the comments seem to belong to the latter.

[@tennoio1392]

The whole idea of pardons seems to me wrong. Why does a president has such power? To just defy court's decision. Of course today's pathetic leaders would use it against justice.

[@ianthompson5678]

Bcuz govts have been falsely imprisoning people for atleast 5000 years

[@hellothere-hx5by]

I would say that the sternness of the law or legal judgments, and the one-size-fits-all nature of law or legal judgments, and the danger of ignorance, mistakes, or abuses of power from the other branches, warrants the President to have the pardon power as a check. Anyways, governments have the inherent danger of a rogue President or executive, and so the pardon power does not do too much to change that. Other checks the other branches have against the Presidency and other constitutional limitations on his power, such as impeachment powers and term limits, are the means to limit abuse of the Presidency.

[@tennoio1392]

I see the argument for checks and balances. What i dislike is that a pardon is an arbitrary decision of a president. In the end it comes out as "it's justice because i said so". Maybe the check on courts from the president could be implemented differently. But I know too little of this, maybe I'm wrong.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@tennoio1392 A pardon doesn’t have to be “because I said so.” That is just an improper use of the pardon power. I would read the Federalist Papers to see if their arguments for supporting the pardon power are convincing to you.

[@hellothere-hx5by]

@@tennoio1392 A pardon doesn’t have to be “because I said so.” That is just an improper use of the pardon power. I would read the Federalist Papers to see if their arguments for supporting the pardon power are convincing to you.

[@augurcybernaut4785]

🤷

[@hyperreal]

🤷

[@klkiley2922]

Lol just as unreasonable as Rand herself.

[@lefantomer]

And you would be here WHY, clown show?