The Early Church was Catholic w/ Joe Heschmeyer

[@TheB1nary]

I've been a Protestant for nearly 35 years - was a reformed elder in a Baptist Church for two of those years - and of late in the Anglican Church. This podcast, and discussions like this, are helping me (slowly, but no doubt surely), look at Catholicism in a totally different light. Thank you. Please pray for me!!

[@karawaterhouse]

Stay in protestant land pls thx 😊🤘

[@iggyantioch]

​@@karawaterhouse Be Catholic! Potlucks are Soo much better 😊

[@debbiedmeades3805]

​Kara, why hold Paul back from seeking the Church that Jesus founded?

[@consecratedsoul]

Follow truth wherever it leads you, may God continue to show you the way to his mystical body and bride! ❤️

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@iggyantioch LOL! + Turkey Keno!

[@tabbyhamilton533]

Your interviews and debates with Cameron are the reason I started researching long ago! My husband and I are in RCIA and will be confirmed on Easter!! It's been amazing!!

[@shlamallama6433]

That's wonderful! Praise be to God, and thanks to the blessed Mother for her intercession!

[@cptsil90221]

My heart swell with happiness for you both. Bless be Jesus our King.

[@MichaelAlledelaCruz]

this is amazing! welcome home!

[@kevincallahan61]

That’s incredible! Welcome Home!

[@johnyang1420]

Welcome home! You are making the right choice! God bless you!

[@KayElayempea]

"...you only committed the sins you really wanted to..." That quote really got me.

[@jeremydavie4484]

I was at a Protestant church service the other day, and they had communion. The pastor literally said "Jesus took the bread and said 'this is a symbol of my body' and he took the wine and said 'this is a symbol of my blood.'" Literal misquote of Scripture. He had scripture on a TV screen for every passage he quoted except for the most important one. It really made my blood boil.

[@bradyhayes7911]

It made *a symbol of your blood boil.

[@internetmarketingconsultant]

Well, on the other hand, the pastor really is not anointed to represent Jesus and do a consecration. Hence, they can only present symbols to their followers.

[@Kalypso24]

Idk why I read "they had communion" as "they had communism." 😂

[@jasongeorge7536]

That's because protestantism comes straight from Hell.

[@emilymg1]

Do those people not read the Bible? What in the world

[@danielr3127]

When you're captivated by a conversation in a matter of minutes, you know it's good. Great guest and as always, great interviewer. Keep up the great work Matt and thanks for continually providing meaningful Catholic content, I'm sure Aquinas would be proud 👍.

[@cajun221]

We have 8 kids, late parents... had last kid at 46... tough, but I treasure all the moments , realizing they'll leave for college at 18 makes me treasure all the moments with them. We pray before every meal, go to daily Mass as often possible, prayed before every meal & every time we get in the car...& no, & they go to Catholic schools & can read & sing in Latin, but we are not perfect catholics; many struggles with electronics et al, but love the moments of sharing before night prayers... many times the kids world share longer than prayer time & it's beautiful...& there are times, "pray quickly please I have a test to study for!"

[@theodore-gottlieb]

Beautiful! God bless you and your family.

[@trajan5560]

I've watched many of these episodes, and Joe seems like one of the most genuine and kindest guests you've had on. Bring him back!

[@Isamariemar]

Married at 19, now 26 and have 4 kids 💜

[@JosephHeschmeyer]

Yes! Good on ya.

[@James-303CO]

Woah thats crazy I'm 26 was married at 19 and my wife's about to have our 4th kid in May! God bless 🙏

[@AJanae.]

25 and just got married 😅😅 but however many kids God has in store for me I’m excited :)!

[@toddgruber5729]

The call to Cameron was awesome. So cool to get to be a part of these conversations. Awesome.

[@stevesawicki2062]

Oh that Saint Faustina prayer... Weeping... Such a simple saint and how she grew into the docility and head over heels love of Jesus. The present!

[@mitchellosmer1293]

Maria Faustyna Kowalska, OLM, also known as Maria Faustyna Kowalska of the Blessed Sacrament, was a Polish Catholic religious sister and mystic. Wikipedia Born: August 25, 1905, Głogowiec, Poland Died: October 5, 1938, Kraków, Poland Buried: October 7, 1938, The Congregation of the Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy, Kraków, Poland ---Mystic??? Did she delve in mythology? Tarot cards? >>> Who did Sister Faustina see in Purgatory? They Saw Purgatory | The Divine Mercy One night, Sr. Faustina was visited by the soul of a fellow religious sister who had recently passed away. In her Diary, she described the poor soul as being "in a terrible condition ... with her face painfully distorted." In response, Sr. Faustina redoubled her prayers for the sister's soul. --Odd!! Did St. Faustina burn her diary? There is no chronological order to the Diary. That is because Sr. Faustina burned all the initial notebooks of her Diary when Fr. Sopoćko went away to the Holy Land for a few weeks in 1934. -Why not read what the Bible says about the dead??????? ***Hell, heaven or purgatory? --Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: --Psalm 115:17 The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence. --Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. ---Job 14:10-12 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? 11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up: 12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. ---Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. ---Genesis 3:19---In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. --Psalm 146:4----His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. --Ecclesiastes 12:7--Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. ---James 2:26--For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ---Ecclesiastes 9:6--Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. --John 3:13--And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. ---Psalm 6:5--For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? ---Ecclesiastes 9:5-For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. AND NOT ONE ever mentions a place called "purgatory!!! The most prominent modern historian of the idea of Purgatory, Jacques Le Goff, dates the term purgatorium to around 1170; and in 1215 the Church began to set out the actual length of time in Purgatory required of souls. --So, where did catholoics get the place called "purgatory when IT IS NOT mentioned in the Bible!! I can tell you. The CC needed more money for their coffers. What better way to get more money by Inventing a place called "purgatory". A state of "limbo". People will give their last cent to get their loved ones out of such a place. The problem is that there is NO SUCH place in the Bible!!! ---If "purgatoy' is in the Bible, why did it take the CC over 1000 years to invent it??? ----And, why is it that the CC can tell how long a person stays there??? If it was biblical, that decision would have been up to GOD to judge them!!! NO ONE is judged until the Day of Judgement!!!-- What does the Bible say about Judgment Day? Jesus separates the sheep on his right; the goats on his left (Matthew 25:32, 33). There is but one judgment day (Revelation 11:18). Both the saved and lost will be judged (Romans 14:10 and 2 Corinthians 5:10). Our works both good and bad will be judged (Ecclesiastes 12:14, 2 Corinthians 5:10). ---What God says about Judgement? Bible Gateway Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? But, obviously the CC does judge those in purgatory!!!

[@blueroselion5243]

I gave up cussing also but when I drop a bad word I charge myself $10 for each one. The first year I charged myself $1 each and ended up with a $170 bill. The next year my son said $5 each and ended up with a $170 bill again. I improved obviously but I'm hoping to not get anywhere near that, but either was my church benefits because I give them the money. ☺️ Keep up the good work, Matt!

[@kimberlyrose1170]

This is my absolute favorite pints with aquinas ever. It somehow just made Catholicism make sense to me.

[@skwabo]

I enjoyed how it connected theology with practice. We need to humanize our brothers in Christ to bring about unity.

[@Cpripri85]

THANK YOU JOE, IM 36 AND SINGLE. BEING SOMEONE WHO INTERVIEWED FOR SEMINARY IN MY 20s AND NOW PRAYING FOR MY FUTURE WIFE, THANK YOU. DESPAIR IS A REAL THING.

[@krestyn17]

I got married at 37. Don’t despair!

[@hellopaulie]

Yes. I was married at 45.

[@StringofPearls55]

My fiancé was killed four months before our wedding. I was 27. I truly thought that I was going to be single forever and tried to make peace with it. Then, at 38, I was introduced to my cousin's neighbor. Got married at 40 in 2008 and still going strong. God loves you. Trust that He knows what's good for you. I will pray for you. God bless.

[@catholicrakelle]

Have you tried Catholic Match? I plan to use that when I get serious about finding a spouse.

[@CocinandoconMartha121]

Praying you find the one, God's timing is perfect

[@carlasoto6760]

What a pleasure to listen to this wise young . Great guest . Thanks Matt

[@colettegraack1124]

2:08:57.... My Grandfather was that person. The one I had the most strained relationship with... he didn't know how to use words to make up for lost time. Neither did i... But, God gave me, in his dying days, the opportunity to be the one sitting with him for blood transfusions, oncology appointments, spinal taps, thr hospice planning.. I got to see my grandfather humbled, and weak. A man I knew to be arrogant and strong. Strongest man I ever knew. Lacking in emotion and empathy... And when all other family *almost* failed us in those days... I gave to him everything I could. I missed and gave up all that I enjoy, to spend every last waking moment I could in his company. A shame that it wasn't until this time, I eas about 29/30, when for a first time in my life that I can recall he said "I love you." ... He was a drunk, and had been and could be quite abusive... But he was also very protective, very loving though without words or touch. And I came to understand he was merely a product of his raising and lived experiences. Abd I had to understand the times and situations he lived through... I never got to tell him I forgave him for what was done, or said between us to drive that wedge... I will never know if he knew I Loved him, or that he was the only father I ever knew... But, that forgiveness, often i find, is far more about our own soul not withering abd rotting inside us, than about those whom dis us wrong... But, if that answers, yes... the sincere times we had in his last days... Was more than enough to show me the man I knew God had meant to be seen... I recall in the days after his passing, praying for my punish to in redemption of his eternal soul... to be honest I'm terrified Gos may carry that through... But I made the prayer in sincerity, that he be forgiven for all...

[@BlitchSixsix]

Well done Joe! So proud of you brother.

[@jimmudge3858]

Thank you for the hope that oozed from Joel’s mouth!! We keep praying for the reconciliation of our kid who is away. It’s often a hopeless feeling, but God……… Peace be with you!

[@FigaroHey]

"Oozed'? Like slime? Or maybe pus?

[@Madiwildhair]

1:26:56 This conversation of time travel is exactly why my favorite movie of all time is About Time. You will love it, Matt! I cried the first 15 times I watched it.

[@garrettforss1836]

Matt and Joe, the talking about being bland hits home for me. I teach theology at a Catholic school and I have been called to the office several times for these same reasons. It is nerve racking but I’m pushing through. Thank you for the encouragement.

[@wiiflix]

Brilliant video. Loved how you explained why we seek out the teachings of the early church fathers for the clearest understanding of the foundational elements of Christianity and the clearest interinterpretation of the scriptures. I’m so impressed you were able to do that in 7 minutes. I’m inspired to delve deeper into the full interview. And I’m grateful for this quick easily digestible video to share.

[@TrueChristianityWithSandra]

Similar to Joe’s sister, my youngest daughter suddenly left at 15 yrs old and we don’t understand why. She has rare contact with one of her brothers but doesn’t want us to know her address or phone #. The most confusing part for me is that she loves God, and would even pray before the tabernacle in college (apparently). Please pray for my precious daughter, Faith. She’s now 21 years old, and it has devastated all of us. Thank you❤️

[@alqoshgirl]

But 15 is still a minor? How did she just leave?

[@TrueChristianityWithSandra]

@@alqoshgirl First she stayed with a family we were aquatinted with. Then straight to college. Cut off all communication.

[@TrueChristianityWithSandra]

@@Yasmine-mm1yc Hugs back at you, Yasmine❣️

[@mariamadams5088]

I shall pray for Faith.

[@TrueChristianityWithSandra]

@@mariamadams5088 Wow! Thank you so much ❣️❣️❣️

[@andypresby6537]

I learned this quote via Tolkien's letters but don't know if he originated it: "Are not all God's punishments also gifts?"

[@FigaroHey]

"I don't know who Orson Welles is." There are times when Matt Fradd says something and my eyebrows shoot up into my hairline.

[@susand3668]

Watched this inter view today -- it's even better than it was a year ago !!

[@tonyl3762]

I've thought something very similar when I'm trying to get a kid to sleep and it's taking longer than I'd like. I think: one day I'm going to remember these moments and cherish them. And that helps me cherish that present moment. Easier to do when you have multiple kids and some have grown too old for you to rock them to sleep but not your youngest.

[@caseyk.1386]

The time machine idea reminds me of the movie About Time. I can’t remember the details, but the men of the family have the ability to travel back in time and the main character’s father gives him the advice to live each day twice, so the 2nd time through he can appreciate everything he missed the first time, when he was annoyed or stressed, etc. I loved that idea when I first saw the movie and my son was young, but I’d forgotten about it, so thank you for reminding me.

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

Is it just me, or did Matt seem to cross the line from sober to a strong buzz about 3-quarters of the way and three drinks into this discussion? Lol! Gotta love Pints.

[@droddick2006]

This was a joy to watch. 🙏🏼

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

1:50:27 - 1:50:36. Heschmeyer, you speak truth here, sir.

[@williammanhire4424]

I love these casual conversations!!!

[@xXXDeadlyHavocXXx]

A lot of ground was covered today including board games haha. Great stream guys! Loved the random Cameron Bertuzzi cameo! God Bless and continue to do God's work!

[@skwabo]

What a great conversation to be a fit in the wall! A couple of good guys here.

[@ODgoon]

Came across Joe's book in a Barnes and Noble, read it not understanding a lot honestly, but it got me down the early church father rabbit hole and am very thankful for the accessibility of these sources that help clarify and strengthen my faith. Need to revisit Joe's book again as its a good compilation of key points

[@rickybaker42]

Actually this entire talk was just such a joy to listen to

[@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81]

It's funny that it's some kind of revelation for Prots to realize that Jesus founded the Catholic Church. What do they think, that He founded the Mormons or Baptists or the Church of England instead?

[@Peter-jo6yu]

They're exposed to misinformation and propaganda from their childhood (like I was) that's all

[@dirtdog1097]

They think there was confusion and chaos and the Bible is so intense it took a long time to parse through it and understand it. I am a former Protestant currently in RCIA and that was my perspective. I never liked when other Protestants were dismissive or lacking intrigue but there are Protestants still searching and striving for God. I hope they find him!

[@SneakyEmu]

Jesus didn't found the Catholic church as it is now. Jesus never taught purgatory, or prayers to dead saints, or any number of current Catholic dogmas. Claiming that Jesus founded the Catholic church is fundamentally dishonest.

[@zacharynelson5731]

@@SneakyEmu Jesus also never taught the trinity or the incarnation of hypostatic Union. He also never mentioned that revelation would end with the death of the last apostle, and never mentioned which books belong in the Bible. Oh but that’s right; Jesus never taught that something has to be explicitly written in scripture in order to be true, and it’s incredibly dishonest to go by that standard.

[@SneakyEmu]

@@zacharynelson5731 then you agree that Jesus didn't found the Catholic church! Especially if by "the Catholic church" you mean something that has been in a constant state of change for the last 2000 years and will remain in a state of change for as long as it exists because it still believes that it's leader can speak with infallibility. It's ridiculous to say that what you have today was what Jesus started.

[@rickybaker42]

Your parenting conversation was just superb! Exactly my thoughts.

[@iossipmiljak6770]

Guys. Right now is 5:30 in EU, and I woke up at 4:30, surfing through You Tube feed. I started to watch this interview, cause I like this podcast. All on all, part where the guest is describing the meaning of hell, over the phone call to another guy, was mind-blowing to me. It totally woke me up and left me in awe o.O Great great stuff :) God bless you!

[@saturdaysolitude7800]

I live in the EU too, I was watching this late last night. What country are you in?

[@iossipmiljak6770]

@@saturdaysolitude7800 originally from Croatia, but living in Denmark last 3 y. You?

[@Benjamin2503]

I feel like we are long lost brothers.... I played Command & Conquer Red Alert :P This video has been a major blessing to this Prot! Thank you Matt and team!

[@angrypotato_fz]

2:23:33 Good point on different style of talking. I experienced this during Virtual Catholic Apologhetic Conference, where I had an opportunity to listen to many great people I hadn't known before. However some of them (old or young, I didn't exactly see correlation with age) spoke in this very theatrical, emotional style - and my main reaction was "I don't buy it, this sounds very fake, like if he/she tried to convince me emotionally instead of reasoning", so very negative. I was discouraged even though I wasn't against their statements and really wanted to find valuable strong arguments in their presentations. Maybe my reaction was even stronger because I have some background in marketing, psychology and know a bit about manipulation. I appreciate the way you (Matt, Joe), Jimmy, Trent, Chris or even Mr. Peter Kreeft speak, as I feel it's more about the content, the information and reasoning - and I feel I'm treated like an intelligent person :)

[@simonerosado9144]

Waching now, one year later, and knowing that Cameron converted is fun😅

[@RumorHazi]

Wow, just wow! I had read and heard some stuff from Joe Heschmeyer but I had no idea of his depth. I bought his book and can’t wait to read it. Thanks once again Matt for another incredible interview! You are so smart and so quick that you can bring someone like Joe on your show and bring out the very best in them while, all the while, making it hugely entertaining!

[@minervaortega6655]

Like it or not, the Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ

[@johnyang1420]

Absolutely!!!!

[@marjanaavsec8392]

Amen❣️🎺

[@dynamic9016]

Really appreciate this discussion. Very insightful.

[@tomaprivate]

Me playing Minecraft because my mind can't strictly focus on a 2 1/2 hour conversation hearing the comment: "You know which game I don't get? Minecraft." And I took that personally.

[@isabellemarkunovic2048]

Did you?😌😇

[@brendansheehan6180]

"Who cooks for you" is a way to remember the sound a Barred Owl makes.

[@thesubscriptionboxshow3962]

So good. Watching this on St-Patty's day afternoon...i had to grab a beer 🍻

[@ladybuggoneforeign4748]

1:26:00 Love this sci-fi thought experiment! Reminds me of the movie About Time with Domnall Gleeson where **SPOILER ALERT** he relives his day so that on the 2nd day he can cherish each moment. Until he realizes he doesn't need to. He begins living each day only once and he's able to cherish each moment.

[@billmartin3561]

Can you edit the first 8 minutes of waiting out?

[@LoveMuffin800]

I remember reading a children's princess book as a kid and it said "she was good and gay" and i was confused but then realized they meant good and happy

[@strawbbtarte]

Grateful i learned gay meant happy before i learned about homosexuality.

[@frisco61]

I graduated in 1979, we had a girl in our class named Gaye, I’ve often thought about her as that word that once meant happy and cheerful is now something to totally foreign.

[@rainbowparrotart]

The interview starts at 9:08

[@TheCatholicCorridor]

I enjoyed this so much!

[@perhael]

Favorite moment. At around 1:44:00 when Matt is genuinely not aware of who Wells is and what Film Noir is.

[@joanmadjid2855]

Thank you for this podcast. So many questions rattling around in my head. 🤔 This gave me direction in my understanding. God bless you both. 😊

[@LetsgoB]

This interview made me catholic

[@barry.anderberg]

I pray that both of you enjoy your kids as much as you do now when they are teenagers.

[@robertopacheco2997]

It's no more about pope or council anymore than it is about the Bible or Tradition. Just like with the hypostatic union of Christ and most other Christian teachings, it's a matter of both/and rather than either/or. It's about the pope and church councils working together with Scripture and Tradition to preserve unity and orthodoxy. The "sola scriptura" faction at the (proto-)Council of Jerusalem was the "party of the Pharisees" who insisted on the authority of only the Torah to determine faith and morals; but the ruling of the council was that it was the Spirit and the church (not the Torah alone!) that had ruling authority (see Acts 15). At Nicaea in 325, the "sola scriptura" party was the Arian. They insisted that the word "consubstantial" wasn't in the Bible and also cherry picked the gospels for "proof texts" (e.g., the Father is greater than Jesus). But the pope's delegation headed by the orthodox St. Athanasius of Alexandria insisted that the entirety of the Tradition (including all Scripture and not just a few isolated texts) establish the unity of the Father and the Son and the Son's full deity and humanity.

[@Winnie-Kay]

Bob Ross gave credit to his mentor in one of his episodes.

[@AJanae.]

“Who cooks for you, who cooks for you?” That’s a famous line people say while imitating a type of owl :) we have them all around here in the Pacific Northwest

[@Littlemermaid17]

I loved this episode !!! I want to get Joe’s new book now!

[@tonysaid6184]

Clear as the dawn, and bright as the noonday sun. Why then do protestant "scholars" who presumably know this, refuse to reject their errors and enter the Catholic Church? The problem is in their will. As Our Lord said of the Pharisees who rejected Him: "If they do not believe Moses and the Prophets, they will not believe, though one should rise from the dead." They must know or easily could know the history of miracles and prodigies worked by Catholic saints in every agee of the Church - a fulfillment to the letter of Our Lord's words: "You who believe, the works that I do you shall do, and greater than these will you do, because I go to the Father.". They know that none of he founders of their protestant denominations worked miracles as proof of their divine commission to wrest the Christian doctrine of immemorial tradition, and deform the Mass turning it into a supper., to say nothing of prodigies (resurrection miracles.), and mystical phenomena, such as stigmata, incorruption, bilocation and apparitions of our Lord and his Blessed Mother. They would be converted in a moment if they were humble and honest and had "received the love of he Truth." For Our Lord stands at the door of every heart and knocks. No: they keep the door firmly shut; their will is to themselves: their "faith history, their parents and ancestors who were protestants, and their liberal democratic country which they deem to be the greatest and best country in all history , and which was founded by protestants like themselves, and deists. Our Lord said:"Seek and you will find; knock and it shall be opened to you." But they do not find because they do not seek in the fear of God and have in their hearts the Love of God above all other considerations. "I know you that you have not the love of God in you." But there is another reason that they do not enter the Catholic Church: the foundational doctrine of Luther and his followers that one is saved by faith alone. and this faith is fiduciary and not doctrinal. Therefore they have been taught that doctrine is of minimal importance as long as they believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. Of course there is none of this in the New Testament, where there is such strong emphasis on purity of doctrine, and the new Christians are warned again and again to beware of false teachers and their doctrines, which doctrines, according to St. Peter, they obtain by "wresting the Scriptures to their perdition." God requires of them that they recant and embrace the Truth majesterially taught by the one Church Christ founded and endowed with the Holy Ghost to teach it, and enter it, if they are to be saved. "....There is one God, one Faith , one Baptism....Those who are not with Christ are against Him,...and... they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore without a doubt they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic Faith whole and inviolate." - Pope Gregory XVI, "Mirari Vos" (no. 13); August 15,1832. Why then do people continue to call protestants "Christians" when they do not hold many of the teachings of Christ, and therefore do not deserve to bear he name of Christ? "And from that hour many of his disciples no longer went with Him".

[@Emily-me]

I love the spontaneity of having a phone call be a part of the show.

[@thepentacostalchatholicconvert]

I love these long conversations! 😍

[@chaldeang7687]

I finished reading Joe Heschmeyer's book 'Pope Peter' a couple days ago and it was great! I reckon if protestants read that book and were being honest with themselves, they would abandon Protestantism.

[@StringofPearls55]

I wonder the same.

[@GardenMinistry.]

Yes, even Jimmy Akins book on The Early Church Fathers is enlightening, and has strengthened my faith as a cradle Catholic. I know with complete certainty I could never leave our church (no matter what may be happening in it) because Jesus says the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

[@johnyang1420]

True!!!!

[@josephwalls3481]

“Who Cooks for You?” is the call of the barred owl. I’m not kidding. That’s how ornithologists remember it. Look it up.

[@seanbelford5238]

Great conversation

[@EliteTrainingForBasketball]

Dynamite points about wokeism and the attraction. Reminds me of the quote “the single greatest cause of atheism in the world is Christians.” They acknowledge God in their words but don’t acknowledge him in their lifestyle. We need to resist lukewarm-ness with everything we have and strive for perfection as Christ calls us to.

[@samvimes9510]

A few months ago when I started investigating Catholicism, I stumbled across a video by Father Mike Schmitz that took a similar approach to the whole past/future thing. The whole idea was to surrender not just your present self to God, but to also give him your past and future. People often lie awake at night in bed, replaying embarrassing or traumatic events from their past, just brooding over these moments. Or we'll give ourselves anxiety worrying about the future and all the things that could go wrong. But there's nothing we can do about that stuff. What's in the past is over and done, and we can't predict the future either. You can avoid a lot of stress by simply saying "Lord, I don't want to dwell on these moments, you can have them." 1:41:47 ha, I'm playing Civilization V right now. It's the perfect game to play while watching a podcast on my other monitor. Never could get into Command and Conquer, though. My brain just can't handle all the rapid multitasking that RTS games require.

[@krestyn17]

I would love to hear Joe and Matt discuss the possibility of no one being in hell with Cameron. Not that it’s a known fact but a possibility.

[@JoeMama-bo6di]

I love Joe Heschmeyer! Shameless Popery is one of the reasons I’m entering RCIA soon

[@davidproudlock7517]

Matt Fradd mentions Red Alert and I now know this man knows everything! The best game ever made.

[@angrypotato_fz]

Kirov reporting!

[@FigaroHey]

Giving up sin (like swearing) is not a sacrifice. It's virtue. A sacrifice is giving up a good for a higher good.

[@seraphim256]

Can't belive Matt Fradd is a Red Alert fan too! Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge are still 2 of my favorite computer games of all time.

[@deaglanuafhlaithbheartaigh8241]

Don't worry Matt. I still play words with friends and as a true contrarian still refuse to comply to the trend of wordle

[@tanieshasimmons5212]

I recently played Monopoly with my boyfriend, and it's not a game of chance. Who knew?! I had no idea that you could bid on properties if someone chose not to buy when landing on it.

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

The video game version of monopoly does that I have monopoly on my Nintendo switch And I believe it has that feature available

[@evelynj6658]

Fun to "hang out" with these guys..... Dissidence in Church---It is good to acknowledge problems in Church honestly. (I do appreciate the various male(and female) lay voices....We need to stay unified and respect other's opinions....while graciously agreeing to disagree but pray for them. Everyone is bringing different things. Tim and Steph Gordon are bringing the idea that women need to stay home. These guys remind the Traditionalist to mellow out a bit....but tend to reject the full traditional role of women....I think women reclaiming their true role at home will slowly be more embraced). Fun--- I Do appreciate the reminder to be honest. It is good to discuss how to enjoy life more fully in a Catholic manner---Chess...games....and great movies. Enjoying life is a necessary thing...even Mary said this....

[@henrikrulofs9636]

You love to play chess? Great hobby! God bless

[@matthewluisantero5051]

Matt, when's Gaven Kerr coming into the show?

[@riverjao]

I’m a Charismatic Pastor and I can say that sola Scriptura is profoundly unworkable.

[@chaldeang7687]

Then why are you a charismatic pastor?

[@riverjao]

@@chaldeang7687 that's a non sequitur.

[@chaldeang7687]

@@riverjao You just said you're a pastor though

[@riverjao]

@@chaldeang7687 well, even Luther infamously expressed his own frustration with the novel doctrine of sola scriptura and its negative fruit in his own day. The fact that we have some supposed 30-40odd thousand denominations is the sad fruit sola scriptura and the proof that it’s unworkable.

[@tryingnottobeasmartass757]

@@riverjao, what do you believe the solution to be?

[@andrewbosela764]

Conversation brings up video games and Minecraft specifically. Me: Playing Minecraft while my baby girl sleeps in the baby carrier I'm wearing while listening to the podcast...

[@Peter-jo6yu]

Timestamps would be very helpful

[@juliannacodde8633]

Thanks!

[@saturdaysolitude7800]

You're welcome.

[@masonshirley4051]

Many people don't realize that you can negotiate, barter and create alliances in Monopoly. That's what makes it fun and introduces skill. Also....the "free parking" square is simply free parking. You're not supposed to receive any money when you land on it. That's what keeps the game going for hours and hours; someone can be on the verge of bankruptcy and land on free parking and the game continues for another hour. Monopoly facts.

[@brendamyc3057]

The only identity Peter should hold to his heart is the identity of our Lord, Jesus Christ!

[@QuisutDeusmpc]

Grace fulfills nature, it doesn't abbrogate or eradicate. It is Almighty God who creates our souls and unites them to our bodies, with all of our personality quirks and limitations. Not only Peter, but we ourselves, can look at, identify with, and praise God for the person God we ourselves are, while simultaneously looking to Christ and seeing Who God is making us into.

[@patriciahutchenszimmerman9357]

Thanks

[@Tartersauce101]

A quick glance at Wikipedia says some Church Fathers did defend the position of Annihilationism. It always made more sense to me from reading the Bible.

[@teamarie123]

Not me playing minecraft and then having you guys go on a tangent about minecraft

[@mikederp9612]

Bought his book!

[@cadestegall4942]

I'm an Anglican, and a lot of arguments that are towards protestants don't specifically apply to Anglicans, I would love for you to interview someone and talk about those reasons not to be Anglican, I have been somewhat persuaded to an extent, but nothing is which making that serious impact that can be needed for something important like this. Though I understand too that Anglicans aren't the most important people to dissuade, we are mostly a minority.

[@johnyang1420]

Jesus started Catholic church. Anglican church started by King Henry 8. No real presence.

[@-GodIsMyJudge-]

I very highly recommend looking into the writings of John Henry Newman! But also I would listen to some more recent testimonies of Anglicans who became Catholic, one example in particular I can think of is the two brothers of The Catholic Brothers KZbin channel, who had a pretty long and windy road to becoming Catholics - including a lengthy period where they were High-Church Anglicans. But they give a lot of good reasons for why they at least became convinced. Either way I wish you the very best, May God bless and keep you and your loved ones!! 🙏✝️🕊️

[@verum-in-omnibus1035]

I watched this entire interview, and you were both very lovely, but I was waiting and waiting for the discussion at length about “the early Church was Catholic.“ As the title of the video suggests. There was a few minutes of it early on, and then the rest of the talk was just you two chatting about things you like. At one point Matt, you say “I’m trying to keep you away from anything theological“ in the discussion…Why?

[@patrickbrinkman3717]

“Who cooks for you” is a bird call, BTW.

[@erojerisiz1571]

when they got halfway into the games part my mind randomly suggested something to the effect of '"How the Touhou Project affirms Papal Infallibility" would make for an interesting stream'

[@riverjao]

I don’t know any Fathers who believes in annihilationism but many of them did hold to apokastasis (ultimate reconciliation).

[@terriekraybill9724]

It strongly seems, looking at the Scripture as a whole, that the original apostles and evangelists were very protective of the Faith. So it doesn't seem plausible that their immediate disciples went and corrupted everything within a generation.

[@awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960]

Especially if they died agonizing Martyrs Deaths afterwards. Its the same argument we make for the resurrection of Jesus and the Apostles Testimony. It doesnt make sense to question the honesty of someone who got brutally murdered for defending this belief

[@riverjao]

Why can a Catholic not hold to annihilationism when some of the Fathers did. And I if I recall I don’t think it’s ever been condemned by a council.

[@awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960]

What Father held to annihilationism?

[@VaticanToo]

Regarding hell: No one in hell will want to be there, but given the opportunity they would not choose instead to be in heaven serving God.

[@finishingtouch4251]

Impeccable Trent impersonation

[@tommygsgamingchannel]

My good man, you hadn't heard of Orson Welles??

[@caseycampbell1386]

How do we contact the Pints team w a question?

[@MycoKing]

Matt, for some reason when I link to this video all I get is a "Stream Starting Soon" with music. That also occurs with your last long video. Is their a problem on your KZbin channel for these longer vids?

[@StephanieStuart-k9e]

This is blowing my little Methodist heart and mind......I never heard the teachings like this........ummmmmmm wow

[@DaynaRathman]

Growing up in Baptist the Lords Supper was a reverent and prayerful time. The pastor quoted scripture as “this is” body blood, but now our pastor says “symbol” loud and clear. I don’t like it. I thk maybe a new directive is coming out of the Baptist conventions?? Also growing up I didn’t know what the Catholics believed and what the problem was between Catholics and Protestants except for baptism. Baptism of believers occurs after expectance of Christ and is the first act of obedience as a new believer, not as an infant.