The End of Dean guitars? Dean’s legal issues

[@k-ondoomer]

Don't sell yourself short, you're way cooler than those guys, you've given honest opinions on gear and have talked me out of many marketing gimmicks and have steered me towards reliable gear. Those other guys you name drop cannot find a way to make a profitable channel without pushing marketing narratives, and while you sometimes have to he careful with your words, you deliver the kind of honesty a consumer needs to navigate a market filled with paid sponsorships. Thanks for all you do

[@JoshuaC923]

Hear hear!

[@joelewis7072]

Agreed... 💯

[@JoeLucero-r5l]

In 1982, I bought (and still own) an original Dean Cadillac. It was badass then, and is badass now. All of the sustain of a Les Paul, with about 1/3 less weight.

[@Rikamortis6stringer]

I have never played a Cadillac. I have played lots of Dean guitars and own a few. I just find it strange that these guitars have great QC, speced pretty high and the prices are really low compared to some others I would say at least 200 less sometimes almost four and they come with hard cases most of them. I hope Dean guitars are around for a while I really like them. Don't know why everybody talks shit about them?

[@MichaelSheaAudio]

Modifying your cheap guitars is just a fun way to express yourself. You can make it completely unique. Plus, if you get a good low end guitar and put everything you want in it, it'll cost the same or less than a more expensive guitar with no mods, and you might want to swap out parts on that anyways. One of my cheap guitars is so good that it spoiled expensive guitars for me. It was setup professionally, so it feels amazing to play and feels as good or better than any other guitar I've played. If you like it and it plays well, do what you want with it, make it your own, and save some money. I also refinished it myself without a clear coat so the paint is gonna age terribly, which could be cool or very bad depending on how the paint chooses to react. But it's been a couple years and the paint is still as it was back then.

[@WeeFreeMan78]

Perfectly put 👌 Last year I bought an old Washburn strat diet cheap, 40.$ to be precise, from a kid that bought it and just parked it under his bed. That thing feels, sounds and plays unbelievably good. Invested on a set of locking keys, roller string trees, a titanium nut and a Dimarzio virtual vintage blues in the bridge. I have two way more expensive guitars that are really, really good instruments and they've been collecting dust for months. I never thought it would be possible but there you go 🙄

[@chris407x]

Excellent tube amp for home/practice: Monoprice Stage Right 15w 1x12. Once channel but very rich sound with a dual EL84 and triple 12AX7 tube design, 3 band EQ and reverb. A switch takes it down to < 2w and gets a rich, inspiring tone at bedroom volumes. The 15 watts is loud enough for a band practice. Use the volume pot on your guitar to go from a whisper to a scream. Currently $260 US. Very well-made and solidly built, and it sounds great with single coils and humbuckers. You could buy three of these for the price of a Blues Junior.

[@sesa2984]

Running a metal zone over with a truck is so metal.

[@neildmonte8786]

Heavy Metal?

[@claudiajay8291]

?? Phil ! Going geeky was so much fun! I’m excited about the new guitar you’ve bought! Still loving the copper Delos over your right shoulder … I just love that guitar …

[@budgetguitarist]

"Good Enough Gear" is a great gear description category. And it is true that you don't usually regret spending a little more.

[@darklight4815]

Dimebag has been keeping Dean afloat for many years....i have a 90s flying V and a Dean EVO special select from early 2000s and both are great korean guitars

[@jasoncherry4221]

i saw loudness in 86 with stryper was amazing

[@johnphillips4033]

Me too

[@workingnights84]

Saw them last year for the first time and got to say meet and say hello to Akira! His solo on dream fantasy is one of my all-time fav! 🎸

[@joeyvanostrand3655]

Stryper I'm 86 had to be pretty kick ass!

[@scottsozmtns7534]

Steve Martin “The Jerk”! “See a doctor, get rid of it!” Love it, it’s a classic!!!!!

[@michaeleaster1815]

31:28 I think the Internet search is just a small bonus in the decision. Car makers have resurrected old model names for a long time: the main reason is the easy boost in interest, excitement, and media coverage because of the heritage of the model name and the nostalgia factor. Also the built-in narrative: when Dodge brought back the Challenger, you immediately have an idea of the market segment they are going for; there is less need for explaining the product.

[@ShawnShipstad]

Right on. I think your insight hit the nail on the head. Thank you for your input.

[@ChainsawChristmas]

Spot on

[@Rikamortis6stringer]

Ford ranger is a perfect example. The only problem is the old Ford ranger was super reliable and was the number one selling vehicle in America for 18 years. Ford took it away in 2012 but yet it was sold in every other part of the world except USA. Well they brought it back but all it is is a smaller version of the F-150. Why do we always get screwed in America like we have a lot of money?😢

[@JB_II]

Missed the love cast. Was down in Raleigh on vacation to see ZZ Top and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Crossing some things off the bucket list.

[@moveoutdrawfire]

VICTORY motorcycles was SHELVED because the parent company Polaris wound up also owning INDIAN motorcycles. They shelved Victory motorcycles so that they wouldn't be competing against themselves. Indian Motorcycles was the legacy brand with a long history so they went with that instead of favoring the relatively brand new brand (Victory).

[@renula]

Me too! In Puerto Rico. Akira is one of my favorites.

[@JoshuaC923]

I think that's the happiest I've seen you Phil! Congrats on the ngd

[@JF-em6hr]

A thing about Behringer not mentioned. They don't have buffers,like Boss, (they're not even true by-pass, I think) which means if you have cabels longer than 12 feet you may notice a drop in signal clarity. I noticed.

[@terrorbirds9835]

Boss sued behringer for their pedals being too close and they settled out of court. Don’t know which pedals exactly or what element (sound, look, etc) but the behringer pedals I have sound excellent and the the behringer synth does too, and in KZbin comparisons sound like the originals. And I’ve never had any problem with them breaking - plastic is pretty strong actually 👍

[@pads-zr9ln]

As a bedroom guitarist I can spend £25 on the behringer or £200 on the CE2

[@DrKevGuitar]

It was about the "trade dress", i.e. the look was too close to the Boss pedals. They adjusted it and all was good. The circuits in guitar pedals can not be protected e.g. no copyright, patent etc (theoretically they can but in practice it's very tough). Electrons don't care what the box looks like, the same circuit will sound the same whether it's Boss or Behringer (noise performance or durability aside). I like Josh Scott's take when asked about Amazon pedals: cheap pedals bring people into the market. People who buy cheaper pedals now get an affordable introduction to what is possible and will in time move on to higher priced pedals. Everybody wins.

[@Bagledog5000]

The only real difference I’ve found is extraneous noise tends to be higher with Behring ear stuff, but it’s been a while since I us3c there stuff so it may be better now.

[@DrKevGuitar]

@@Bagledog5000 And with modern technology and circuit board design the Behringer gear could be less noisy than vintage Boss gear.

[@Bagledog5000]

Auto correct blows BTW, the typos aren’t mine, apologies to Behringer.

[@villageidiot9867]

I was at the show in Tucson when loudness opened for Motley. Bought Thunder in the East the next day.

[@Rikamortis6stringer]

Why don't you have any pointy guitars?

[@dime85sg]

I'm a huge point guitar fan

[@JASTANSELL]

I got a Behringer Compressor/Limiter (watermelon color) and I love the sound. I know most of their circuits are copied from popular designs. What's this one a copy of/what's better quality step-up?

[@GuitarGearGyan]

The Ultra Fenders are superb products and getting them for a deal would be amazing. I love my Ultra Tele.

[@richarddelconnor]

I’ve got a 1965 Pleasant guitar picked up by a G.I. in Japan. These guitars were never imported to the US and I’ve never seen another one. I use it as my slide guitar and there are a few pictures on the Internet of me performing onstage with it.

[@scottsozmtns7534]

Went to Hawaii & didn’t want a “T-Shirt”, for a souvenir! I found a small builder of Ukulele’s & bought a handmade blonde mahogany Uku from the island of Kauai. That’s how to buy a souvenir!!! Little Ukulele plays great till this day & quality is top notch!

[@JerryTheVeganRockstar]

The founder Dean Zelinsky is still around making guitars under the his full name and website. He has a blog on his site describing the history and when he sold the company.

[@neilpatrickhairless]

The short scale bass behind you is still my favorite guitar of yours 🤌🏻

[@scottbaxter7095]

Have the tee shirt that says "It's what I do, I play guitar and I know things" 63 and have managed to learn a few things. Must have accidentally paid attention some of the time.

[@MrArtist1971]

I have a Dean custom from around 2007 with a Floyd trem and EMG passive pickups. Got it at a pawn shop for around $100 I think. Sells for almost $800 used now. It's awesome.

[@sidyal]

Great episode. Really enjoyed it.

[@steveikerd7]

I have a Dean Vindetta I bought for 150 dollars, and it plays great! I can't figure out how they made a guitar so cheap that sounds and plays so well. Must be the pickups.

[@richiebricker]

Yeah, Dean guitars is going away and I still havnt got the Cadillac Ive always wanted. Now the prices are going up. They dont make body blanks so I might have to get an LP body and modify it. Damnit!!!!

[@joelewis7072]

Best answer ever..." Good Enough"...100 truth.

[@globalprofits101]

How about boss gets realistic and stop gouging pedal pricing etc.

[@ziggybongwater7915]

speaking of acoustics, im really impressed by the new walden stuff. i had a walden years ago, loved it and then they disapperaed for about 10 years and the new stuff is looking so good to me. also the auden stuff is well worth a look!

[@countzero5150]

Edwards, Tokai, Fujigen, all awesome choices. I have 3 Edwards random stars. Two Akira Takasaki signature models and a neon pink tiger stripe. If I were going to go to Japan with buying a guitar in mind I would hit all of the used and overstock guitar stores around. Tons of cool guitars and brands you won't find anywhere else.

[@karlkuehn4783]

Jensen bought Advent during my stint there. Advent eventually became a brand name for RV appliances. I started seeing the Advent logo on microwaves and refrigerators in RVs and camper trailers at RV shows 12 years ago. Strange.

[@scottsozmtns7534]

I’ve been chasing the “Hiss”, from my axe. I rewired the switch w/16-gauge wire & heat shrunk wrap, & copper taped the inside of the electronics. I’ve got an Ernie Ball 90-degree & straight end. What if I get a straight-straight, or another brand of chord? I’ve got a Epiphone 1960’s Les Paul Standard. Is “hissing”, a problem with those models? is it in my pick-ups? I’m currently using a Boss Katana 50, is that a problem?

[@adammono1839]

I've got a few behringer pedals, I've found that putting a better pedal first buffers the signal to a nicer impedance for the input on the behringer. Less hiss for me, but maybe it's all psychosomatic!

[@StratsRUs]

I do think that pickups matter to the player.Hence the performance leads to the desired sound/impact. That's about the most corksniffer I get !

[@JoshuaC923]

Yep, great gear inspires

[@jessep1885]

What is with that geeky stuff cap?? I recently found the pick ups I want, the website sells only the one pair of pick ups, and that baseball cap. They are all sold out of everything. Mysterious.

[@GuitarGearGyan]

Next video plan..... car over pedal, before and after sounds..... does rubber add to Tone?

[@moveoutdrawfire]

That looks like a Knaggs Severn (lower right corner) and it looks amazing!

[@scottsozmtns7534]

Right you are good Sir! I’ve got a Bourgeois Vintage D, with Adirondack Spruce Top, Indian Rosewood sides & back. Such loud sound & very mellow as well. Very versatile! I do have a “Pre-War”, COPY D-body acoustic by Recording King & it blows me away for the under $600.00! I’ve played 1950’s Martins & I’d put my Recording King up against them!

[@sublyme2157]

Dude! I had no idea GearNuts was Sweetwater. Thanks!!

[@MidLifeProject]

I ordered a new Kiesel in early June and it was delivered in late August. When I ordered online it estimated I would get it in Sept or Oct. so, I was super excited it arrived early.

[@zoeherriot]

“Black Smoker” - is an amazing Japanese brand and they make hand made guitars that are really nice, particularly their S types (they call them Sigma). Expensive though. I don’t think you’ll find them over seas.

[@rodgermingaye]

I am ingtrigued. Underwound and overwound pickups implies there is a 'correct' resistance /inductance fora pickup.thisclearly cannot be true. Is it then just a matter of convention in terms of coil winds for each pickup type

[@jffstein24]

I think I was at that Loudness show. Was it at Club Red?

[@PhillipMcKnight]

Yes it was

[@CAllenBlack]

I was a roadie for a different band in 85/86. I helped with the Loudness Concert at Cardis in Houston. I can't remember if they opened up for someone or played alone that night.

[@John_Doe657]

The thing with cheap pedalsis that it’s a hit or miss.I use Behringer pedals in my setup, an EQ and a vintage phaser. These two pedals sound good but not great, they sound better than the averrage budget pedal though. Iv’e also owned Behringer pedals that sound real bad.

[@blakejackson4483]

I thumbs up before even watching the videos Phil makes😂

[@scottsozmtns7534]

Are you talking about “Dean Markley”, guitars & strings? I remember when I first heard of Markley strings being frozen in liquid nitrogen. Big thing back then! Whoohoo!!

[@robertiaccarino4363]

??? Hey Phil, I live in Tucson and I'm really interested in taking your guitar repair course; can you recommend a teacher or School in close proximity to Tucson that offers such a basic repair course? I just want to set up and intonate my own guitars. Thank you, Robert

[@coffeedudeguy]

Love the Steve Vai Passion and Warfare story!

[@onlyguitars]

Just got a Tokai LP MIJ , the entry level model, and damn still find it hard how good it is. The QC is outstanding, and this guitar in feel and neck feels more similar to the R8 I had than the 2 Gibson LP Traditional I had. Similar because is a closer neck profile and overall details than the trads. Can just imagine how good then the higher tier Tokai must be. So if I were going to japan, would try many different MIJ guitars from different brands and get my favorite. Getting to try them damn, that would be awesome.

[@bobbyarthur8809]

Right … I have a ls 198 gold top and an ls 200 custom shop with 5A top and these are a build level of Gibsons in the high thousands , and I say this owning a 94 lp standard and a 2015 actual Gibson … simply had to go to Tokai as they offer a 6-10 k Gibson level for a quarter to a third of the price … higher end Tokai LPs are replicas of the highest build standard .. enjoy your guitar and for sure aim for their high end model !

[@carsonwyatt8915]

I had an older tokai lp gold top with a bigsby. Still regret getting rid of that guitar.

[@fredzep01]

That was funny when Phil was trying to pronounce Khruangbin, they are a great band, and funky as hell. But this band doesn't need Fender amps, they need something with a bit of low end grunt.

[@scottsozmtns7534]

I remember when Tacoma Guitars came out & I was very impressed with them. I found them to have a good sound, nice to play & an unconventional build.

[@robwhitman769]

Tacoma was great, the Chief was first guitar I ever personally played with an offset sound hole, and The Thunder Chief is still the best acoustic bass guitar I've played.

[@hhnry7929]

Phil, everyone definitely prefers you and your content . Sure others are great and post good content but those are just there to watch while waiting for you to post 😂

[@ironblast5]

Get tc electronic pedals they are basically the same as behringer pedals but with metal housings and they still are super affordable

[@GraeboProductions]

Try to right click the image "open image in new tab" if the pixels are there you will get a large picture and a picture you can "save" in the era of blocked downloads/saves. 😮

[@bobfurman2739]

Only like relics when they occur naturally,like Rory Gallagher 's strat !!

[@MetalMike87]

Search for a Navigator, or any old (70s / 80s) GRECO - TOKAI - ORVILLE - ARIA PRO II

[@honkytonkinson9787]

Behringher pedals usually sound ok to good, but the controls are weak, and they don’t like being stepped on, which isn’t good for something that’s designed to be stepped on. Great tools for beginners, but don’t expect to gig with them unless it’s an always on pedal. Hard to beat $15 to $20 used

[@JamesSteeleProjectVideos]

Actually near the end of the Guitar World story it mentions that Dean is going to court with the bank and they have their side of the story so the sale of the brand is not quite a done deal.

[@baileywatts1304]

Mooer is almost as cheap as behringer, and they sound a lot better. It's weird that something only five to ten dollars more than the behringer model when they aren't the same price would be so much better. On the other hand though, outside of highly sought after things like Space Echo or the Waza craft versions, I can almost awlays find a great deal on a Boss pedal.

[@johnhowe4079]

As far as components, the cheap vs expensive-> probably the only a difference of $2 in resistors. The price is just what they can charge for the name reputation, and of course sound options/quality.

[@KainzMusic]

Gibson suing everyone again...how long before they go after Jackson for the Marty Friedman model?

[@stevemc75]

They wouldn’t be going after Jackson. They would go after Fender. Which won’t happen…ever.

[@ShawnShipstad]

Right on. About the time I bought a Les Paul style Kiesel guitar, Gibson was talking about a lawsuit then. In my opinion, the Kiesel Les Paul custom I bought blows away any Les paul Gibson has made-Thank you for your post brother.

[@Taco_Raider]

Eef Geebsun soo evreebuddy, den dey wheel mayke aye gewd, stronge faurt een thayre pance

[@nedludd3641]

Are Tokai banned in the US? Some sort of copyright issue? BS or wot?

[@rbaker1423]

Phil, I love how giddy you are throughout this whole episode! I'm right there with you. I ordered my pink&green swirl Kiesel this morning too -- so new guitar day for me too. The quote was for 14-18 weeks, though Jeff mentioned something a little more in his live stream. Mine is very similar to yours, except mine is an A2 with a maple board. I have a swirl from the first run too.

[@scottsozmtns7534]

When I was coming up B.C. Rich was a MAJOR name & they were out of my price range back then!!!

[@9999plato]

The last SUNN amp I bought back in the 80s new was their Colleseum bass amp and matching cab. What a piece of garbage. First the 18" woofer (10/18 cab) Blew at moderate volume on stage and the repair shipping was at my expense both ways. It cost nearly what a new speaker cost. I decided to sell it on trade for a GK. Well the store I sold it to was a SUNN dealer and ended up lending it to an act who was plating at the "Boittom Line" a well known club in NYC. The amp blew up in a spectacular fashon in the middlke of a song resulting in an on stage fire. I guess that amp had bad mojo and I was lucky to wish it into the corn field when I did. With all of the EQ on that amp it never sounded quite right. The GK was by far a better amp, until it was stolen that is. The perils of living in NYC...

[@True_Necroholic]

I Deans inventory was seized to be sold off to pay debt I'd like to know how much inventory there was to seize and where and how it will be sold.

[@stevefossen6853]

Phillip, what do you think of Suhr guitars. The used market is around the low $2K. No one around here carries the brand, thanks.

[@sqidvishus]

Don't they make the Badlands guitars?

[@mikegutterman3427]

Fender bought Sunn in the 80's I think mostly for the amp production factory at that time. The new Sunn is Mission Engineering that is licensing the name from Fender.

[@ronroyer1888]

Sunn manufacturing was a couple of large garage type building out in the country in Tualitin. OR. My impression was tat Fender just wanted the brand, try chewing it out and making a couple of expensive models. Didn’t know what to do with and just let it die. Mission Sunn is hella expensive… the sixty watt heads, very basic and I’m sure they sound great… $3700.

[@tjtowberman65]

GearNuts,,,, Is it the Sweetwater Clearance / Outlet?

[@anthonynonya]

I give a thumbs up to almost every video I watch, especially independent creators, mostly guitar, and football genres. For some other types of videos, like space or history videos I put on when going to sleep, I give a thumbs up to indicate to my future self that I've seen that one before.

[@rferguson3]

Sounds like me, to a T. Although I suspect we’re most likely not into the same team. I’m a Saints fan. Just curious, what’s your team? Oh & im new here. Never heard of this channel. Only about 15 mins in, but I’m digging it, so far.

[@jonnyhafer7376]

he dean ml is one of the best shapes ever dean should be able to make it on that shape alone ( i know they cant but they should be able to haha). i play all 60s jaguars religiously for 20 plus years now but i have wanted an ml since they were on the wall and boogie music in phoenix az

[@Pj32Sr]

Ngd smile 😊... congratulations 🎉🎸🤘

[@DavidHBurkart]

Berhingers are great placeholders on a pedalboard. You can cover all tones/shapes you are looking for until you realize what you are really going for, replacing them with whatever upgrade helps you to get there. Shawna does have a point though. They are very (although not entirely) Boss-Centric, which is why they are great for starting out with. Over time though, a beginner will replace most, if not all of them with the real Boss or other equivalent clone-circuit. The plastic housing almost ensures this at some point

[@pads-zr9ln]

Same, I still have their chorus and 808 on my board, I would love a ce2 but they're very expensive, all I use it for is keeping the ds2 under control

[@acousticglue]

I traded up for years and then found the industry of guitars are not really that much better than the new cheaper guitars in many cases compared to ability. So I have been trading down. I am like a stock market.

[@louis6331]

Frenetically it should be Krogman. At least that’s what I’m seeing . Hope that helps.

[@louis6331]

I gotta tell you brother, when I’m having a crappy day, a lot of times, I’ll turn to your channel because you are just like one of the happiest people I ‘ve ever watched. Because it’s like you’re having the most fun and practically laughing through everything you say. So that uplift my day if I’m having a crappy day. So keep on keeping on man. You’re one of the better KZbinrs that I’ve ever listen to. You’re great and I appreciate you brother..

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Darrell Abbott's Estate could buy Dean ☕

[@russellperry8635]

Why is the KYG logo flashing on my screen intermittently? It comes on for like 1/10th of a second, maybe 5 minutes apart. Something that Phil is doing for trademarking or other copyright protection, or maybe something from KZbin? Has anyone else noticed it?

[@czechplastik]

Do you have a time frame where it happens? I haven't noticed

[@russellperry8635]

@@czechplastik happens regularly throughout this most recent podcast, something like a minute or two apart (now that I’ve taken notice).

[@czechplastik]

I have not been able to replicate this behaviour. Do you mean the logo is overlayed on the video or the logo bottom right?

[@richeyweinstein7706]

Thanks!

[@joeylodes]

How do you not make it to Opti-Grab ?!?!?

[@CarsInDimension]

Phil, there's a lot of hand work in making harmonicas, and every reed is hand tuned by a human. Look at any of the harmonica factory videos here on KZbin. Regarding cheap instruments hurting a brand, Hohner tried to discontinue their sets of cheap harmonicas. Parents buy them for their kids, think they're a toy, and the cheap harmonicas aren't really playable so the kid never learns. Guitar Center made them put them back into production, saying that they are the single best selling instrument in their chain.

[@CarsInDimension]

Someone should ask Dean Zelinsky what he thinks about the current situation at Dean.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

I hope not. In this country you can become mired down for the smallest comment...even for offering what seems an innocent opinion.

[@jray5363]

If he can stop laughing long enough, maybe he can buy it back!

[@workingnights84]

Edwards guitars are amazing! The strats and les pauls used to be crazy value

[@PhoenixFlight94]

They still are. Even after shipping and import fees you're getting something better than what Fender or Gibson is making at the US facilities.

[@CoastalMountaineer]

Khruangbin is a band I would have never thought I’d like but they are Texas based chill kind of music. Think the name means airplane in some language

[@villageidiot9867]

Thai.

Depends whether you’re gigging or clumsy. Boss pedals are built to last, while Behringer are generic. Some are very good, but they’re built to a price. You can also spend a lot more on a bag of shite which are nothing special, but just generic products at boutique prices.

[@Milton_Andrew]

Navigator is the Japanese brand to get

[@terrorbirds9835]

Oh snap what have I been doing by letting my stored pickups touch? 😮

[@BigHairyGuitars]

I voted for pro wrestling... but... OK, I guess guitar making is cool too.

[@elevenAD]

If i was not broke i would be on the Kiesel builder right now!

[@amalgam5107]

Love my FGN!

[@karlkuehn4783]

Dean Guitars was founded by luthier Dean Zelinsky. The Z and V guitars are directly based on the Gibson Explorer and Flying V, except for the V headstock. The ML is a cross between the Z and the V. The Cadillac is a cross between a Les Paul and an Explorer. The original Dean's from the late 70s and early 80s are amazing guitars. I don't remember who bought out Dean in the 80s, I don't think it was Armadillo, but the quality of the guitars was nowhere near as good. It's similar to Jensen. I worked for Jensen from 1989 to 1995, when it was still an independent company. They were purchased by Recoton in 1995. The home and car audio became cheap, imported junk. A few years later, SICA Altoparlanti secured a licensing agreement to build all of the original guitar amp speaker designs.

[@nedkelly8553]

I have a Korean made (World Music Instruments, I think?) Dean bass that is about 5 years old now. It had an MSRP of $800, but I got it for $400 on clearance because they were retiring the model. Like a lot of Korean imports, it's actually really nice. I've owned a lot of basses including an American Fender P-bass and an MIJ Fender P-bass, PRS SE, Warwick and others, and I can say with some confidence this was a great deal for $400. If it was $800? Eh, no, I probably would go with something else with better resale value. But they've made some decent stuff in recent years, pretty much on par with the various other good Korean stuff.

[@admarhermans1]

I wish there were really great basses by Dean... 🖖

[@alsantangelo]

I always thought Nancy Wilson had the coolest Deans back in the day.

[@PhoenixFlight94]

Japan doesn't mess around where it comes to their domestic guitars. I'll take anything in the ESP family over there (ESP, Edwards, Navigator, EII) over even American custom shop stuff here.

[@captnb8036]

Fantastic!

[@dw7704]

I haven’t tried every Behringer pedal, but the ones I have tried were noisy and tracked poorly, so never bought one But some people make them work, and maybe those are the ones I have not tried

[@lexist7]

The ge7 clone is ok

[@sometimesdimneverthin]

Guitarguitar is one of the largest guitar retailers in the UK.