The Entire Competitive History of Meta Knight In Super Smash Bros So Far (Brawl, Wii U, Ultimate)

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In today's video I talk about Meta Knight and how he went from being the most overpowered character in competitive Smash history during Super Smash Bros Brawl to what he became in Smash Wii U and 3DS aka Smash 4 and Smash Ultimate.
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:56 Intotheam
1:56 Brawl
11:47 Smash 4
18:07 Ultimate
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[@whitegamergt8553]

Dabuz popping off the 37 is so fucking comical

[@tomaspalma5168]

wait THAT'S DABUZ? i thought it was some rando 😂

[@MrGutzs]

LMAO that makes that clip 10 times more funny

[@666blaziken]

Only in brawl would you ever check on the results screen for a win by technicality. Beautiful game (in all it's jank)

[@zer0mar322]

How to get your friend to quit SSBB in 4 easy steps: 1. Pick Meta Knight 2. Press the A and B buttons randomly until a stock is taken. 3. Look at your friend and say, "Come back when you can put up a fight." 4. Input a dimensional cape, then repeatedly mash up on the C stick while quietly maintaining eye contact until time runs out.

[@z-past1454]

8:08 “37!!! You lose!!!!” Is so funny omg!!!

[@brycecai2749]

You lose! M2k: 😑

[@taigosakai2266]

That was dabuz right? (saying 37)

[@z-past1454]

@@taigosakai2266 yeah lmao

[@joma05]

Dabuzz has some sort of autism right ?

[@MojoMonkey]

I do not remember this happening but that is so funny. Of course it's M2K lmao

[@JohnDoe-sj3ng]

Brawl came out in March 08. In February, there were some demos available at certain event venues. One video in the early years of KZbin showed a guy win a match and confidently proclaim, "Metaknight: THE best character in the game". A whole month before the game came out. I never forgot that lol.

[@666blaziken]

I will have to find that video at some point

[@TheRedStinger82]

Meta Knight is everything Meta Knight da bess

[@Jje261YT]

He’s all you ever wanted

[@somedude-my4im]

You can win a set now

[@electromere3539]

@@somedude-my4imeven if you never wanted

[@organbandage4822]

Clashes, he always wins

[@maskkid]

Trades they ain't never gonna

[@TgsMaverick]

Seeing Chu's Kirby Planking again gives me PTSD from the times I had to face him in bracket :(. And yeah, it's a shame the MK ban never held up. I was one of the URC members at the time, and the game definitely died quicker than it would have otherwise in the US from him staying legal :(. Great video as always Larry

[@dewdesi]

Steelers Nation

[@eanderson9599]

Larry sponsor skits are solid ngl

[@MasterAbeer101]

Oh nah from the thumbnail alone you can tell that Larry was COOKING with this video. Meta Knight da BEST!

[@MasterAbeer101]

Also those ad skits are on point 😂

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

LarryPat isn’t real. He can’t hurt you 11:35

[@yolochip4889]

LurrPurr

[@lancelee338]

7:59 This and Dabuz’s reaction is beautiful

[@justalex3880]

This gave me very much False Swipe Gaming vibes and I’m so here for it. Hope to see more of it in the near future

[@Mr__Jack]

It really puts in perspective just how broken Meta Knight was when tripling the startup of his Up Air still results in a Frame 6 Up Air

[@brysonmcfaull1218]

2:35 LOL

[@LIGHTANGEL_EX]

Something to also note about Meta Knight in Smash Ultimate is that his tornado now has a wind box that is supposed to suck people into it. The problem with it is that when he's in the air while using the tornado, it ends up helping the opponent return to the stage instead of knocking them to the blast zone.

[@digino24]

You can also use it to gimp people and pull them offstage during moves and such. It’s quite hard to do, but it’s really funny. The MK cord has deemed it the “poop chicken” from my memory

[@Iso_SSB]

better title: The Entire History of Meta Knight in Super Smash Bros great video tho, love a good larrylurr retrospective

[@LarryLurr]

🤔

[@jonahbucci3960]

I always wanted someone to do videos like these similar to PNDK&M videos on competitive history for Mortal Kombat but for Smash, so excited to see that you’re doing those!

[@BONKfrys]

Would've loved to see some acknowledgement or at least footage of Ito since he contributed significantly to laying out the groundwork for how MK should be played early on in Smash 4, but aside from that, amazing job on this! Your experience really shows with all of your explanations and I really appreciate that, especially with how easily misinfo was spread around with Ult MK. I also definitely agree with you thinking the combos don't feel that much harder to perform in Ultimate. I think the main thing that turned a lot of people away at the start of the game was getting around short hop macro bs. I guess he'd just be better if he still had Mario uair like prepatch Smash 4, but I honestly think that without it, this is the funnest and most skill-expressive he's ever been. There are really easily applicable ways to better navigate the issues everyone had before with messing up full hops or getting stuck on platforms, but most of the playerbase just isn't willing to make those adjustments, and that might partially be my fault because I haven't dropped any in-depth resources about it and only have chances to explain it to people who sit down with me at events lmfao

[@LarryLurr]

There were a lot of players I was thinking of mentioning for the video(you included), but scrapped the idea because it was getting too long and I already explained everything I wanted to. I'm glad you liked the video though. Despite it being the smallest part of the video Ultimate was the one that I had the most trouble writing about lol

[@Swordfish_]

Of course this is just a local bias but all I was thinking watching this video was where are the bonk clips.

[@fraudfish]

Ito contributed heavily! Amazing video nonetheless Larry!

[@LazyNinjass]

Larry on a date lol. That alone deserves a subscription and like !! 👍🏻

[@EnharmonicYT]

13:48 can we talk about this smooth as hell transition

[@StepBaum]

Great video, especially great choice of all the clips. I imagine that must've been a lot of work but it's appreciated

[@andrewwalden2005]

Loved this content. Thank you for putting in the effort and time

[@BigLadStudios]

I remember back during the release for Smash 4 seeing a bunch of people who thought Meta Knight wasnt coming back since he was so good.

[@the_bookworm8281]

Meta Knight actually got another huge buff in patch 1.0.4 of SSB4: the nerfs to Launch Directional Influence (LSI). In the initial release of Smash 3DS, the newly added LSI mechanic was much more powerful, as it affected moves between the launch angles of 65° and 115°, or between 245° and 295°, aka moves that launch vertically. Pre-nerf LSI rendered both vertical finishers and combo tools much weaker at launch, as opponents could LSI down the finishers to die much later and LSI up combo tools to launch them further to end the combo there. It gave the defender more options defensively against vertical combos and weakened latter combos, but it also limited the combo potential and kill power of the cast, which brings shades of stuff the playerbase heavily criticized about Brawl. Another important thing to note is that the 3DS versions of Battlefield and Final Destination have larger blastzones than the Wii U versions, further facilitating this. Meta Knight was likely the biggest casualty of the pre-nerf mechanic: SSB4 MK lives and breathes by the latter combos, and LSI during that time pretty much crippled (or heavily limited) his vertical combo game he needs to succeed. This, combined with his weaker tools like the lower range on up air, pretty much meant that pre-1.0.4 Meta Knight simply had a miserable time in the game, and was likely a low tier character during that time in hindsight. He simply didn't fit that version of the game. Patch 1.0.4 would fix this, and the Wii U version launched with the 3DS 1.0.4 balance changes, so he never had that problem in the Wii U version.

[@tomaspalma5168]

Larry, you outdid yourself with this one. GOATed video.

[@GamerBuds]

Great job with this video Larry! Very informative and an enjoyable watch! You went crazy with the edits haha! 10/10

[@HewwoUwU]

This is so well put together! The commercials, the video, everything! Now all I need is a video on GnW and I'll be even happier. B }

[@benross9174]

Why does SoCal have so many MKs? Does anybody know?

[@silvesta5027]

20 minute Larry video. Day is made

[@MrGameguyC]

Ult Meta Knight is one the many solid but overshadowed characters. Kind of a shame he doesn't have many good players, but it's not surprising either due to how meh his win condition can be. At least he has some cooler stuff people are figuring out like at the nutty ways you can interact with the ledge using Drill Rush. If you've seen the Mockrocktalk Underrated Moves video, you know what I'm talking about. Maybe one day he'll rise higher, he's got real Sleeper-Pick energy.

[@PaNiK624]

that ad skit was hilarious lol

[@00blazzer2]

I love historical smash content like this.

[@pk_arcfire]

PLEASE Make a best and worst of every smash character in Brawl!!!

[@LarryLurr]

I will! I've been working on it, just been delaying finishing it

[@MaveDiller1866]

If you continue this series, i'd love to see a video about ZSS

[@nathanlevesque7812]

gotta learn those footstool rising dair combos for Ultimate MK to be optimal

[@meesironman]

Mkleo really did save us from another game of Bayo dominance

[@Tocaraca]

I think they should bring back gliding for Meta Knight, Pit, and Charizard. Steve got a glide with his up B, so it feels unfair that the OGs still don't have their glides anymore

[@shuccle6161]

I'm of the opinion he's a really high skill ceiling character in ultimate compared to smash 4, and people just haven't taken the time to perfect their gameplay with him. Not as many smash 4 players stuck with their old mains coming into ultimate, and all the new players who's first smash game is ultimate don't know all the old secrets about how to play meta knight exceptionally. That's kinda the fun thing about ultimate. There's always so much room for new players with dedication and passion to rise up with the characters they like.

[@XC11301991]

Man I remember Nairo's trip to Japan in Sm4sh and GFinals was him vs Abadango laddering eachother. Sakurai watching that finals releases the next patch where both characters got nerfed to be less effective at laddering.

[@TyphonCH]

Thia could turn out to be a really good series. Please consider doing this with other characters!

[@jman2050]

In Ultimate I think Metaknight has a similar issue as a bunch of other underplayed mid tiers is that he is solid but ultimately redundant. With so many characters and so many matchups to prepare for there’s less incentive to squeeze every ounce out of a character’s unique kit. Instead, what you end up using are characters that do their particular thing(s) better than every other character does their particular thing(s). In that respect, Meta Knight just doesn’t have the “sauce” to stand out compared to anybody else, and his playerbase and meta development suffers as a result.

[@lawsheagaming3021]

It's crazy I just picked up MK in ssbu and he has such a huge learning curve but I just love playing with this character also he was my favorite character in brawl and I had no idea how broken he was at that time because I played for fun back then

[@StepBaum]

Ngl that sponsorship was pretty funny lmao

[@dry90125]

I think the fact that they have been trying so hard to undertune meta knight since brawl kinda proves that if you give good physics and frame data to character with 6 jumps they’ll be always be able to do something

[@C-Vite]

Man I miss S4’s Meta Knight. Great sweet spot where he was in the tier list

[@robertduerler2226]

Larry cashing in on the recent spike in Brawl content? Lfgooooo

[@carbonation10317]

the LarryPat is killing me

[@stupidw33b52]

Larry proving once again he is the GOAT

[@Popinazo]

Thank you Papa Larry

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Daddy Larry< Darry

[@coolleorealms1495]

Aight boys time to win a major with mk

[@juane.6827]

Larry Lurr is the real goat of Smash 🐐

[@Lewielewie1]

Watching Metra destroy people with MetaKnight at Pearl 2 was insane. Really hype character to watch in the right hands

[@kaylone4174]

Larry Matpat was a jumpscare jesus

[@JaylanSosa]

"So i main falco right..."😂😂😂

[@TheMoonPersonTV]

larry lowkey the funniest smasher and it dont even seem like he's joking

[@michaelplaysbass8311]

Can you do a video on duck hunt??

[@MastaShake99]

Larry the goat

[@nikkobird590]

W promotion ad

[@phyliedits2660]

How sad, i really like his ladder combo ever since i trained mk in smash 4 and had no idea it is nerfed in ultimate

[@vincentskater]

There definitely should be an MK ban for Brawl in 2024 so the history of Brawl can still unfold - we can't change the past, but we can change the future - Shulk

[@MrGameguyC]

This is the first time I've heard someone say Ult has less hitstun then Sm4sh. There any source that confirms this cause I never noticed a difference?

[@djhanirharrissmith4494]

No Nairo mention in Brawl 😔

[@domenicdefusco6328]

Japan still ranks MK fairly high with winning match ups against top tiers. I've been maining him from smash 4 start and I really do believe with more development he'll find a place

[@misterknite]

Japanese players threatening to retire if their OP character is banned sounds familiar...

[@Metakairi]

Hope my goat is good in the next game😥

[@ashketchup7354]

Lol the MatPat png

[@neonzitro4032]

Larrpat is horrifying

[@Alexrun902]

Meta doesn't need Buffs in Ultimate, he needs sauce

[@ShintaSmash]

Nooo not M2K being a Scrooge lmao

[@Atr0]

didn't talk about project m rip 😢

[@brutal_lui]

MK B META

[@f-gamer7880]

ULTIMATE META KNIGHT IS MY GOAT🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

How old is Meta Knight?

[@Theredwiiman]

In case yall didnt know somebody modded brawl Meta Knight in ultimate and he is busted

[@jonolivier9126]

7:07 8:23 Once, just once, is it even possible to, just for the one time, force a Smash player to come up with a normal fucking name for something? This dumb shit is why I never bothered getting good at Smash, I hear of some random garbage called the Zorbo Magumbin and it's just a slightly more fancy way of doing the Mario up air chain in Sm4sh.

[@wilhelmtan5301]

alternative title: how good was Meta knight actually

[@Umeki_Daisy]

Metaknight: fast, rough, ridiculous, overwhelming, intimidating, preferred by attractive players Steve: insidious, ugly, demonic, disgusting, sickening, unseemly, preferred by childish players🤮

[@MrBleer123]

Braw metaknight was definitely busted, but imo I don't think banning him would've saved the community. The game still had a lot of degenerate characters.

[@peter1052]

Rad

[@nemil238]

in brawl hes broken and in the other game he ladder combos. cut to ending

[@ZeGreatBamboozle]

64 Kirby could maybe give Brawl MK a fight.

[@mtvgamer2479]

Nope not even close sadly 😭

[@djdrizzy9139]

Why not? He would out range MK easily with up tilt and back air alone.​@@mtvgamer2479

[@pititiflauta]

but would he lose?

[@tomrejor4842]

I'm pretty sure Kirby is only considered second best behind Pikachu in that game. Hard to give meta knight a run for his money

[@Enoby_Darkness]

Metaknight's sound effects are so gross after Brawl. Biggest nerf he got.

[@smashdriven1640]

I felt Meta Knight was in quite a good spot balance wise in Smash 4 but now in Ultimate he’s such trash.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

None of the Kirby characters are good in Ultimate ☹️