21:20 cannot believe no one just mentioned that SW has said Welt keeps mistaking her for someone else, making it VERY obvious that we're SUPPOSED to think it is a reference to Bronya or indirectly Bronie.
@tite937 ай бұрын
Does she say that in her character story or voicelines?
@SolaceZero7 ай бұрын
@@tite93 voicelines from when she visits the train
@tite937 ай бұрын
@@SolaceZero right, I haven't seen her in ages on the train, gotta watch out for those
@stuffzluvverz_76657 ай бұрын
Not really mistake her for someone, she just noticed that Welt kept giving glances at her. Clearly showing that he sees young Bronya in her since the Bronya Zaychik we have now is all grown up.
@BNuts7 ай бұрын
I don't know if Welt ever met Bronie, but probably not?
@SayuHatto7 ай бұрын
As a honkai lore nerd, it brings me a little bit of nostalgia seeing new people getting into the hell-hole that is the honkai lore. i always die laughing
@Blazuchan7 ай бұрын
Same, being always deep within their scatter lore that separated into multiple media, kinda my fav thing to do but also not because it certainly not newcomer friendly.
@ray-ex8ft7 ай бұрын
its kind of fun searching to the deep corners to see crumbs of lore tbh i was having a bit of a hard time finding the old visual novels b4
@sanddry7387 ай бұрын
Yeah I don’t know about Honkai lore but it reminds of when people start getting into lore like Kingdom Hearts or better yet *KIRBY LORE*
@kiruyuu7 ай бұрын
The honkai lore is just so confusing to me but I want to understand it and get everything. But goddamn they did a world building that is enormous
@cicada_reviewer75817 ай бұрын
To summarize the Bronya/Silverwolf situation: SW is based on Haxxor Bunny (aka Bronie), which is an alternate universe version of Bronya from HI3. Which makes SW an alternate version of an alternate version of Bronya. This connection is implied by SW's trailer, as you see her playing HI3, and specifically as Bronie. In JP they do share the same VA, but not in EN dub. In Star Rail Bronya and Silver Wolf are different people that have nothing to do with each other. But the characters they were each based on are alt. Universe versions of each other.
@FrenchDinosaur7 ай бұрын
He was in such denial lmao.
@frostmourne19867 ай бұрын
To summarise all of that in a single word: expy
@Assasin27 ай бұрын
@@FrenchDinosaurTBF, chat is often terrible at explaining what they mean
@pikapika82947 ай бұрын
Also, they look alike canonically, not just a "same actor" situation. Welt's dialogue confirms this.
@FrenchDinosaur7 ай бұрын
@@Assasin2 streamers often speak with confidence even if they're knowledge about the topic is subpar too. Basically, we see here how dumb + dumb can have a coherent conversation but communicate literally nothing to each other.
@Wookiescantfly7 ай бұрын
The problem with walking into the Honkai rabbit hole is that it gives you more questions than it does answers; that's how they get you.
@KanesakiHyudou7 ай бұрын
When you hop into honkai lore, you suddenly find yourself becoming an astrophysicist and quantum physicist
@zeru51957 ай бұрын
SW is 100% a alternate Bronya. She plays as Bronie during her trailer and she has Dialogue with Welt giving her funny looks due to the resemblance, and considering Welt is Bronya's mentor there is good reason. Silverwolf was also Bronya's codename as a child soldier in HI3.
@SoraShiratori7 ай бұрын
Herrscher of Reason.. HAH!! Sorry, had to be done. Also, finally someone realizing the codename! Been thinking it ever since we got introduced to Silverwolf :D
@platinai35417 ай бұрын
my eye was lowkey twitching when someone called the cacoon of finality the IX from hsr and everyone was just agreeing
@Vonmoonlight7 ай бұрын
Ikr, I get the hype of connecting things... But come on they are so different Like the name of Cocoon of Finality It's a literal hard shell, like a cocoon Meanwhile HSR already shows designs of IX, and its quite literally Slime blob. Like an existence that completely lost meaning hence melting and losing shape. It's so different... That's like saying oil and water is the same thing
@Shadessmh7 ай бұрын
Coccoon*
@petipeti12357 ай бұрын
@@Shadessmh Cockoon
@tealynx5 ай бұрын
Its the _ @ _ shape.
@KawashiK7 ай бұрын
For the Silverwolf and Bronya dilemma, simple answer will be "they are variants"...... But the long answer is: Just as Homu explained, Hoyo likes to use the multi-universe theology, and the possibilities of branching timelines, where the same person exists, but are different in experience and situations. Bronya is the default character of Honkai, Bronie is Bronya but in a sense of "what if her situation is different". She had a different life, different environments, but is still Bronya. Now for HSR, this is the exact same situation for Bronya Rand and Silverwolf. Silverwolf is basically Bronya born in a different world. Note that Welt explained this during Loucha's Story quest. He knew of Otto and Void Archives, so he instantly became suspicious of Loucha (and his gut feeling was actually correct)
@0v_x07 ай бұрын
Isn't Void Archives somewhere in the HSR universe having traveled with Welt? I'm nearly certain I've heard that more than once, and he's also in Welt's splash art. I wonder if he'll ever turn up.
@evillness23607 ай бұрын
@@0v_x0 He is.. Loucha also mentioned about VA
@ZeromusNightmare1227 ай бұрын
@@0v_x0 You can get a good idea of Void Archives current location by playing through or watching A Post Honkai Odyssey. Honestly I never finished part 2 so I don't know where it's at now, but void archives is still around as far as I can recall. However, I don't know if he left the planet or for what reason, especially since he yoinked Welt specifically to show him the Sky People (anti-matter legion) were doing some fuck shit.
@KawashiK7 ай бұрын
@@0v_x0 Not confirmed, but considering how Welt was found by the Astral Express with a "friend", and Void Archives being the only "Otto variant" flashed during Loucha's quest, yeah, we can assume he is in HSR
@Justin-Thyme7 ай бұрын
@@0v_x0 If we go by the Alien Space manga, Void Archive is definitely still around, because Welt and Void Archives are supposed to go back to their original universe together at the end of the Star Rail storyline. If I remember correctly, though, in Alien Space it is stated that their Star Rail journey lasted for 3 years, so that part of the manga might be getting retconned soon.
@mysteriousclem19807 ай бұрын
Tbh i think sharing a voice actor is a good point for character variants. It happens very consistently in the hoyo games. As far as cn and jp vas go you have Mei, Ei, and Acheron, Kiana and Unknown God, Himeko, Bronya and Silverwolf, Otto and Luocha, and probably quite a few more. And there is potentially a brand new example of this too in the Acheron myriad celestia with Kevin.
@Assasin27 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel if both CN and JP have characters sharing a VA for certain characters, there’s likely a reason for that. EN will sometimes try and do this, but often it comes down to “different studios in different areas of the country all work differently so it’s often not possible to get the same person”
@raibyo7 ай бұрын
Hanser didn't voice Bronya HSR. In HSR, she only voiced Silver Wolf.
@shanedoesyoutube80017 ай бұрын
@@raibyo instead, they had Raven/Keqing voice the big one instead
@cal16237 ай бұрын
@@raibyo I'm only going off other peoples claims so this could DEFINITELY be wrong, but apparently that was cause she "couldn't voice adult characters"?? There's also Alhaitham with his JP actor which is different, but Takahiro got into a cheating scandal around the same time from what I know?
@Mr_wisk7 ай бұрын
the cocoon of finality IS NOT IX, IT IS THE FINALITY
@garethcf10167 ай бұрын
Time to check out the legendary Honkai animated shorts
@@JavenJC69 My bucket of HI3rd related tears have been running dry lately so that would be just in time
@JavenJC697 ай бұрын
@@garethcf1016 The emotional pain fuels us captains
@pdpablo907 ай бұрын
Made me think of Gigguk with the Fate universe: "This IS the short version"
@crimsonex75757 ай бұрын
Yup it's the short version as he did not mention Elisian relm
@minshookie4277 ай бұрын
As a veteran captain, good luck trying to analyze the lore in one sitting o7
@BloodAngel_San7 ай бұрын
Impossible I 1 sitting. I got my 1st hi3 lore exposure through Chinese fanfiction. then yt, then game
@shanedoesyoutube80017 ай бұрын
@@BloodAngel_San by Chinese fanfic you mean...
@neobee6027 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001You'll be surprised on how many anime fanfictions are there in Chinese websites And most of them could reach hundreds of chapters
@Yog-sothoth8277 ай бұрын
It is not possible to do so!
@Kashimo_Glazer7 ай бұрын
The Full Lore of the Honkaiverse would take 1 sitting.. with a "few" extra 0s-
@eh96187 ай бұрын
21:05 "that doesn't work chat" oh please, you've been convinced with less. raiden mei, acheron and ei have the same japanese VA, same with heavenly principles along with kiana. we literally have nothing more for those besides character designs and voices update: we got a confirmation on acheron. we hit the bullseye on the mei variant
@Vonmoonlight7 ай бұрын
Right? And SW is literally the same looks as Bronie that is based off Bronya. At the end. Bottomline, expy..nth more nth less. Counterparts in different worlds that have nth to do with each other. Until they decided to
@liamhernandezlucas9017 ай бұрын
If you are interested in diving deeper, it is highly recommended to at the very least watch Homu Labs' other video regarding the terminology and translations, called "why is the honkai series so confusing?!" (it does contain spoilers though, but not much this one didn't already spoil I think) It makes a huuuuuge difference in understanding the Universe. If you want to get into Honkai Impact 3rd, a story guide can also be a huge boon to the experience. The Hoyostans Story Guide is one we've made that covers just about everything we could find that's either of some importance, or just really neat. Many people going into HI3 miss the part where there are story essential manga, massive lore bomb Visual Novels, super cool extra animations and even short anime, etc.
@Vonmoonlight7 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is why many shows that expand on the cosmology. Tend to create random made up terms of their own, unique to their own. That way, it isn't hindered by language differences Like they call it boy123 and girl123. That way when made to localisation, this makes sure that the terms are never mixed up.
@KaagKagamine57 ай бұрын
considering English dub is a new thing since Genshin to the honkai verse I don't think saying it can't count because it's not the same as CN and JP because when someone is casted as a variant of for example Raiden the VA still uses a consistent tone of voice familiar with the original Mei. I remember repeating the intro of Genshin multiple times because a few friends that played Honkai said the sustainer looks like she could be Genshin Kiana but since there was no confimed VA at the time and she sounded nothing like Kiana that can't be confirmed (yet). One case of completely different character but same VA is Ayato, he indeed shares voice with Otto but he isn't an Otto variant. The real Otto variant is probably one of the fatui or the descenders.
@kuramauchiha1537 ай бұрын
not sure if you know by now that unknown god has the same va as kiana in cn and jp
@KaagKagamine57 ай бұрын
Oh! well shid guess I'm not as familiar with Kugimiya as I thought I was when looking up this.
@6MinutesLothar7 ай бұрын
My assumption there is different studio, different audition regardless whenever VAs conceptually drove into Honkai-verse or not. We couldn't say such things especially on Formosa (Genshin's current studio)
@bagashafiizm61857 ай бұрын
I think the Otto variant in Genshin is... Dainsleif
@Yaori9997 ай бұрын
@@bagashafiizm6185 I've seen people say Dain is a bit of a Kevin, and I could see that. Though I'm not caught up on the lore and story, to really have a concrete opinion.
@Wei2Vile7 ай бұрын
Silverwolf was Bronya's codename during her time as an assassin, and yes, this was before the main story of HI3.
@terrencenoran32337 ай бұрын
Cy Yu scoffing at the name “Sky People” when Warhammer 40K has the name “Angron” to someone who’s always very angry….or the legendary “Lion El Johnson”.
@meisbigfan7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Silver Wolf is a codename (or perhaps a name Elio gave her). Kinda like how Blade's real name is Yingxing. (In fact many characters are not actually called by their real name Topaz's name is Jelena, Aventurine is his 'Gemstone' codename. March forgot her name, Acheron isn't even her real name, ect.) Silver Wolf doesn't actually have a legal name. She's definitely a Bronya expy (Bronie to be exact but she's literally a Bronya expy in captainverse) but that doesn't necessarily mean she's Bronya, even if they share VAs. Like how people don't say Raiden Ei is Mei or Yae Sakura is Yae Miko.
@entropy4177 ай бұрын
Beating a dead horse, but Bronya before joining St Freya, worked for Honkai impact version of Cocolia, as a child assassin known as Silver Wolf
@BNuts7 ай бұрын
_Honkai_ is a very deep rabbit hole, and what complicates things the most is how Mihoyo uses 'unreliable narrator,' with the result that players learn about its world at the same rate, and the same way, the characters do. So we know what people like Otto, Einstein, and Chenxue tell us about the world. Seeing the Honkai as a way for the Imaginary Tree to test the worthiness of worlds growing on it for its energy isn't 100% right or wrong, so this understanding leaves some gaps. It is, however, a fact that Otto was able to create new branches of timelines where the possibility existed for his love, Kallen, to live. Similarly, it is a fact that Welt Yang and Void Archives traveled from _HI3_ to _HSR_ . Canonically, unlike how Fischl and Keqing (or Asuka) ended up on _Hyperion_ , and Rozaliya ended up with Paimon. But it's not easy to travel between universes, or Welt would be able to do it casually, so he could visit his wife and adopted son on the regular, while also protecting Himeko from sharing her fate with the one he knows. Homu Labs kind of glossed over the fact that over the course of _HI3_ 's story, we visit various bubble worlds and meet versions of characters we know in them: Bronya herself travels through several as Welt tests whether she's a worthy successor, and she looks for Seele. The Captainverse is this in spades. Durandal's and Rita's missions in the Sea of Quanta. Part 1.5, _A Dance of Life and Death_ , takes place almost entirely in a set of bubble worlds. Finally, Part 2 takes place in two bubble worlds adjacent to Mars, Langqui and Oxia, which used to be sections of a much larger city. As this takes place on a whole different planet, we have yet to encounter any familiar-looking variants, and might not ever do so, unless they're variants of Part 2 characters. Anyway, bubble worlds in the Sea of Quanta vary in size, but generally they tend to be fairly small, from several city blocks to Su's little hill. They are rarely entire worlds if they have already fallen into the Sea of Quanta or Sea of Data, as a result of being absorbed into them. Bubble worlds on the Imaginary Tree, like those containing the Honkaiverse games, tend to be much larger, with _Genshin_ 's containing its world... but as we just said, _HI3_ has us visiting many other bubble worlds, so it's not merely contained to one leaf or branch. Similarly, _HSR_ has us traveling across and into other solar systems on the Astral Express, so it can't just be one leaf or branch either. Many possibilities exist because of these parallel and different worlds. As to Silver Wolf, I still tend to think of her as being the same Bronie from the Captainverse stories: she has a lot of the same gestures and other mannerisms, and while her attitude seems to have changed a bit (she sees everything as a game with the result she wants to get as much out of life as possible), she seems to carry herself in much the same way. And she is older. The biggest hint that she might be Haxxor Bunny is that at the end of her event, while standing with Kafka on Punklorde, she mentions that she once lost her homeworld. Since she's on Punklorde itself, that means Silver Wolf is not a native Punklordian, and she's instead referring all the way back to what happened in the Arc Light City Blues event that introduced Bronie in the Captainverse, and how she had to leave her original bubble world to survive. That or the prequel Shattered Dimension, which explained the collapse of her actual birth dimension, and how an alien rescued her and dropped her off at Raven's place. Either way. she lost two worlds she saw as her home. She also left the Captainverse _Hyperion_ , which as far as we know, might still be wandering in the Sea of Quanta. How and why she left, we don't know yet. But she must've gone to Punklorde sometime after to learn the _Aether Editing_ skill, and she seems to have traded in her Seeker Drones and P-90s for a cool new weapon as well. And then she fell in with the Stellaron Hunters. By her comments on the Astral Express, it seems possible she could have become a Nameless if she had met the Crew first instead, but she says she's had her fill of wandering -- which would be true if she had been with Captain's _Hyperion_ first. By her view, she's just playing the game.
@naavaru62297 ай бұрын
If you want any info related to acheron's trailer, GGZ has 70,033 herrschers, and HI3rd has 12 herrschers besides origin and finality (end)
@kka2storywriter7 ай бұрын
Correction only 70 herrsherr and that was in Era zero because of Dr MEI
@moonshores10997 ай бұрын
I can't believe this cy yu finally reacted to honkai! i'm so happy!🎉
@DanielRamirez-wj6cz7 ай бұрын
Welcome to the rabbit hole that is the honkaiverse
@shanedoesyoutube80017 ай бұрын
The forbidden knowledge that plagued Teyvat Honkaiverse lore
@AriesZero7 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001you joke but that's most likely what it is.
@Strawberries19947 ай бұрын
Solver wolf IS another Bronya.. you saw it xD It's based of Bronie (the capitanverse Bronya) wich is a hacker. Also Bronya from the main story is an assassin and her assassin name is 'Silver wolf'
@Cave_Guy7 ай бұрын
You have to watch the explanatory video about history in HI3 because there will be more explanations about the world in HI3
@Strawberries19947 ай бұрын
A note to the "genshin is not part of Honkai". Genshin wasn't called "genshin" in the beginning, it was called honkai too.. but they wanted to apply for (I don't remember what) and having only one IP was against it.. to they use another name to kinda "feel" they had 2 IPs.. but genshin was thought as a honkai game and it's part of the universe as said by the devs multiple times.
@Yaori9997 ай бұрын
Yeah, Cai (and people can hate him all they like for how he mistreated early Honkai and all of Genshin, this is a company statement) literally says in an interview that the company's goal is to develop the Honkai universe, which GGZ, HSR and Genshin are a part of, too (something I wish was more obvious for people). If Genshin wasn't part of Honkai-verse, it wouldn't fucking be on the Imaginary Tree or at least within reach of 2nd Divine Key and Otto wouldn't have been able to see Dvalin on the screen, same for Fallen Rosemary (just bc it has nothing to do with main story, doesn't make it not canon, which applies to other Hoyo IPs and Captain-verse in relation to each other).
@sentience30334 ай бұрын
@@Yaori999Cai has nothing to do with Game after launch . Cai is only producer of those games till they launch
@xendordawnburst99697 ай бұрын
As an HI3 player who joined in probably a couple months after the game was released in the US, I am really enjoying Cyyu's reactions to the different connections HI3 players have spotted for years! It's awesome seeing genuine surprise and excitement about how broad the lore is for the Hoyoverse!
@Shadow_Dragon557 ай бұрын
It's like fate, everyone asks where the fuck do I start and you just pick one of the cliffs and throw yourself off it in search of understanding what the actual hell is going on.
@Gytis_Of_KFP_The_4th_PenKing7 ай бұрын
and this is why i love honkai...its might sound convoluted....because it is...but more deep you dive in the more you understand and that makes it feel like you are learning about actual breathing world.almost none other game makes me more immersed then honkai does
@thermicriver98127 ай бұрын
Bronya Rand is the mirror universe version of bronya zychik, like how everyone else in hsr is, but silver wolf is bronya zychik either from the hi3 universe when she used to hop through bubble universes, (since time isn’t exactly reliable) or it is bronya zychik from a different part of the imaginary tree. Remember silver wolf has the power to edit reality, which means she most likely has acces to travel through different realities, aka universes or bubble universes, just like briny zychik used did.
@Ironluke_20017 ай бұрын
Ayyyy you're reacting to Homu Labs?! *Sweet!* Really hope we see you react to more Honkai Impact 3rd content in the near future and I really hope you try the game soon as well. It's insanely good. 🔥 2 weeks into Hi3 & it's story and I had absolutely zero regrets about starting it. *The emotional trauma is very real.* 😭
@matteogalbusera11497 ай бұрын
About time for this, and im not just talking about you getting into hi3 content, i'm talking about you watching a Homulabs video, seriously, in terms of lore telling channels of all hoyo games is just the best❤❤❤❤❤
@pikapika82947 ай бұрын
Silver Wolf and the young Bronya from HI3 looks very much alike, not just a "same actor" situation, but canonically. So does the Jarilo-VI Bronya and the older Bronya from HI3, Luocha and Otto Apocalypse and the two Himekos, this is confirmed from Walt's dialogue.
@fierytigergaming81127 ай бұрын
To be more specific - the Jarilo-VI Bronya looks similar to Silverwing Bronya
@imaginarygaming797 ай бұрын
As someone who has actually played all the other Hoyo games, and someone who loves the lore of the Honkaiverse, knowing the deep lore of the games makes it really fun when you see how each game is connected. Even little references in Star Rail's 2.1 story, to HI3, have been amazing. Makes me really happy to see all their games expand and connect with each other on different levels
@cmdrwilkens7 ай бұрын
As you mentioned its a video that makes you want to dive in more. I will say that Homu's terminology video is probably the most helpful (or at least it was for me). It gets to the root issue that as EN players we are getting a localized version of the story and the teams doing the localization in each of the games aren't fully consistent (understandably so) in the terminology of the translations.
@skijr5817 ай бұрын
bro this doesn’t even cover HALF of what hi3rd is about, you gotta play the game
@tangentkatz7 ай бұрын
it's always fun/funny seeing people discover HI3 and even earlier Hoyo lore.
@Liongamer3000Ай бұрын
fun fact, Kiana also SHARES A VOICE ACTOR with the unknown god
@ponos86327 ай бұрын
Irminsul is a world tree of teyvat, while imaginary tree is a tree of the honkai universe
@samuelhuff34277 ай бұрын
The whole thing about Genshin originally being the sequel to HI3 makes a whole lot of sense. As very early into the game’s development, Venti and Ei’s names were originally Wendy and Mei.
@willowApocalypse7 ай бұрын
for anyone wondering Bronya went by the moniker 'Silver Wolf of the Urals' in some of the manga
@kijushiro7 ай бұрын
If anyone wants more details the gist is that after second eruption there was pretty much a civil war in Siberia, a friend of Bronya's father was a sniper known as the Silver Wolf who then went on to take care of her and pass the title to her after she was orphaned!!!
@KisaraShera7 ай бұрын
Wait until he finds out about the Herrscher of Corruption and the Flamechasers.
@gachasimp74377 ай бұрын
herrschers are "servants" of the will of the honkai just to let you know
@erogakisu7 ай бұрын
true !!
@gachasimp74377 ай бұрын
@@erogakisu of course i play honkai impact since the beta, i am more invested into the story than my own life lol
@あきら-v7h7 ай бұрын
Honestly, if you want to understand all the HI3rd characters and pasts, you have to read the spin off HI3rd mangas and main manga bc chapter 1 of the game happens shortly after the manga
@loviegzb7 ай бұрын
a little tid-bit about the Silver-wolf bronya situation: Bronya Rand had a different CN Va because Hanser (CN va) said she couldn't get the older Bronya voice right (despite doing it fine in hi3 lmao) and keqing's CN VA stood in However, Hanser still voices Silver Wolf typically when it comes to especially when it comes to the core cast they'll stick to the same VAs in JP and CN. EN was introduced in genshin so they don't have much of an insentive to keep VAs for variants as consistent (tho i heard Ratana might've said she was going to voice acheron but couldn't due to scheduling)
@Riku-Leela6 ай бұрын
Damn chat speaking the most incorrect stuff is wild. Especially some of them going "Irminsul is an imaginary tree"... No its not hahaha. Its also funny seeing Genshin players learn where 90% of the terminology in the game comes from
@Tsuyoku_7 ай бұрын
When it comes to the Bronya Bronie SW situation, one thing I only found out today was that one of Bronie's skills in Hi3 is called "Silver Wolf's [smth]". That was quite interesting.
@ShirouBrando7 ай бұрын
The Welt one is a must watch
@magmacube62447 ай бұрын
me laughing like a mad person cuz anytime i listen to a honkai lore video i gane more theories than answers
@thermicriver98127 ай бұрын
Also to add onto what you were saying about luocha, he is somethjng called the void archives, which is pretty much a physical copy of otto, with different lore. The void archives and welt Yang both traveled into the hsr galaxy together in a manga.
@nevanV127 ай бұрын
Oh yeah he uploaded it! HomuLabs is so good. Edit: I would like to mention that the Honkai X Genshin collab story has a semblance with the Inazuma storyline.
@furinadenatal7 ай бұрын
MY POOKIE WOOKIE SEEING HI3RD VIDS?IM DREAMING(you need to play honkai 3rd cyyu!)
@Agaures7 ай бұрын
Love your content, and your VA work. I really need to try to tune into some of your streams. It brings me a lot of joy to see you playing and enjoying the games you voice in, and actually wanting to dig into the lore and history. Keep up the great work!
@oOPS27o7 ай бұрын
Next step is watching official explanations/summary videos by HoYo - Honkai Chronicles, starting with Honkai Operation Center Chapter 1. If you want to learn Raiden Mei's story, it's described in Honkai Operation Center Chapter 2, at least half of her story.
@flonneofthestars37097 ай бұрын
I love how he name-dropped Terminus the Aeon of Finality when talking about the of Cocoon finality and then running past it😂
@JayDubYew7 ай бұрын
I hope you dive deeper into the lore! Sounds like you're enjoying the experience so far! Haha. I would love to see your reactions to the HI3 animated shorts.
@shirochansensei7 ай бұрын
If you ever want to go in the honkai rabbit hole i will be very happy to watch it. Just saying, even tho you can get away from just knowing hsr, as a hi3 player it just gives a whole lot perspective in the hsr lore ❤.
@b.ardner69037 ай бұрын
Ah yes. The 2nd Eruption. As someone who already read it, I can tell you this : It's peak. Epic. Made you frustrated that you want more.
@jamesscalzo30337 ай бұрын
Loved the video @CYYUVODS! Can't wait for the next video man! If you also look at the Shattered Sword on the Astral Express, you'll see that It's Sutyr (Himeko's Sword in Honkai Impact 3rd), implying (at the very least) that Item's from one Universe may be able to maintain their momentum in Time and Space to come up somewhere else in the Imaginary Tree! As I said, it's merely Implied as the Last you see of Himeko in Honkai Impact 3rd is Chapter 29 when she Locks herself in an Area of the Ship that was breached by the Honkai and basically Sacrificed Herself to save everyone onboard, including her fellow Valkyries like Bronya. So, it's implied that Himeko Died and was lost to the Sea of Quanta, with Sutyr possibly breaking only for the Shards to maintain their momentum to later come up in Honkai: Star Rail. Let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in your next video man! For a lot of what I know about Honkai Lore, I just listen to Mina Aoyama, hence why I know about Chapter 29!
@pforgottonsoul7 ай бұрын
welcome to the honkai rabbit hole, much like the vtuber rabbit hole you will never leave.
@goatcurry.7 ай бұрын
Welt from HSR traveling from the HI3 universe still befuzzles my mind to this day.
@Zolwiol7 ай бұрын
The high level lore of their multiverse is VERY complex, not complicated. But low level understanding is that "Ture" worlds anchor a certain "imaginary space" where bubbles can form that are reflections of multitude of refractions of the true world, that's where you get the "this world is just a small city district" with characters you sort of recognize doing different things. Bubbles can be stabilized by certain high energy objects but they will remain small and dependant on the anchor world. Knowledge from Honkai series HEAVILY suggests that Teyvat is a stable bubble universe of an unknown world (Celestia) because of the sky actually being a dome and not true space.
@alpacamix7 ай бұрын
apparently this still the tip of iceberg, but it good for catchup for what happen
@aungbhonekyaw31367 ай бұрын
Bruh seeing cyyu being in denial about SW being a Bronya variant makes my day
@KuribPlays7 ай бұрын
Lol seeing cyyu knowledge crumble as he realize most of genshin stuff reference back to other hoyo games. 26:47 the abyss flower is in a way one of the sword. It is made from the Herrscher of death. Aka the one that looks blue white, into red black in acheron lore trailer. 28:27 someone need to remind cyyu Skirk is durandal expy 35:01 little weird detail, fallen rosemary units can associate with early day genshin electric characterS ability. Fischl, Lisa, razor.
@twit35377 ай бұрын
The Adam soul or whatever project stigmata made where everyone falls into a 'sweet dream' and they don't want to leave/we have to convince them to before they disappear or whatever seems a lot like Penacony and us having to fix peoples emotions and how some people dissolve or disappear somehow or have spiritual deaths... Also the Herrscher of origin is an anomaly for herrschers as Elysia being the OG Herrscher of origin let her conciousness fall into the Honkai to allow it to give a chance for herrschers in the next Era to be able to have free will and have their love for humanity overcome Honkais will. Elysia passed on the mantle to Mei to become the herrsscher of Origin in the next Era because, tho I can't exactly remember why, in order to have finality (kiana's ascension) you need origin. Like how everything has a beginning and an end. If we look at the latest Honkai star rail short with acheron we can assume that when origin and finality clash, and if someone survives/persists, then they become an emanator of the path. I think each 'bubble verse' or 'world' is overlooked by a specific Aeon and that Aeon affects the outcome of the world and how the 'honkai' ultimately manifests. Acheron wielded the sword 'origin' and gave 'life' (Elysia gave up her life so herrschers in the next era can have their own 'will', Kevin was killed at the end of the next era so Kiana could ascend instead of him) which through her will and the gaze of Nihility turned into 'naught'. Kiana's world was caught in a reoccurrence of finality which was the 'truth' of the world, that Honkai would keep coming in multiple Eras until someone can surpass finality/show this world is worthy. For Acherons world the truth of the world that that worlds Kevin said was that it was for nothing, it was 'meaningless' which aligns more to Nihility. Acheron surviving, using the powers/sword of origin and fighting back against Nihility made her become an emanator/herrscher of Nihility. Kiana is an Emanator of Nihility even tho she absorbed the powers, or she will become the next Aeon of it as Kiana's ultimate goal was to disperse the honkai energy to be less lethal and make it so everyone on earth can benefit from it. By the time Honkai Star rail came around it was showed that Finality's powers or influence was waning, probably because of Kiana's influence over it as the timeline would be approx 7-8 years after Kiana sealed herself in the moon to prevent honkai radiation form corrupting others. Acheron is fighting against the path of Nihility despite being an emanator (probably trying to 'cure' it) but Kiana and the others did the same with finality (trying to find a 'cure' for the honkai). I think that the presence of 'Origin' specifically in a world might determine if that timeline has a 'finality' that after the 'finality' or final trial will lead the victors to become emanators or even Aeons themselves (the Aeon of Destruction looks VERY humanoid than the others and even then some like abundance is also very humanoid and its possible they were once human and want humanity to prove their survival thru honkai as a trial as Telsa or another scientist in honkai impact 3rd said something along the lines of the Honkai actually wanting to embrace humanity or something iirc, like it wants the best for humanity and this is the only way it 'knows how' if that makes sense and if I am remembering that correctly). Acheron also stated she knew someone named welt and knows about the world tree/alternate versions of others so acherons world was probably on par with Kianas and the Hi3 world. Honkai shows up due to technology/advancements in civilizations to test it and both of those civilizations compared to the ones we've seen so far in star rail were able to harness the power of the honkai (welts cane is a weapon made from a Kevin era herrscher's core, known as a divine key, and the swords they used in acherons world were most likely made from similar materials from herrschers) so most likely for there to be the final test the civilization has to meet the civilization progress requirements, be able to harness the powers of all herrschers/equivalents, have someone wield the power of 'origin' and another 'finality' (not necessarily to fight but even to stand together) and then have one or both of them survive to harness the power of the aeon/ascend and bring in a new Era. but this is just my theory/take on it, sorry for rambling and spelling errors, its 2:30am I should really sleep lmao
@jdoggivjc7 ай бұрын
Laughing at Cy Yu getting triggered at… almost everything 😂 (especially the part at Sumeru)
@butterknight12367 ай бұрын
truly the hoyo experience saking for answers leaving with 2x more questions
@JihoonJKim7 ай бұрын
Bronya and Silver Wolf are expys. Honestly if you just watch the bronya haxor bunny trailer, it explains everything visually. In that she just ties her hair up and you go "hey, thats bronya!" to "hey, thats silver wolf" lmao
@ceravivace7 ай бұрын
I kinda want CyYu to react to HI3 animations 🥺✨
@mr.mc.doesntexist76937 ай бұрын
Now it would be really funny if he watched the honkai chronicles. I want to see his reactions to how depressing Shaoji makes his stories xD
@roguewave43967 ай бұрын
4:14 Oh look, it’s every Genshin players’ worst enemy, Cai. The lead producer that refuses to give us any substantial rewards for the anniversaries, therefore making us the butt of the joke, even before HSR came out
@17onyx_rvn7 ай бұрын
20:03 this. bronya sw and bronie. lemme explain bronya zaychic the og bronya, then theres bronya rand an expy of bronya zaychic, bronnie is also an expy of bronya zaychik bc bronnie is bronya from a parallel universe, later on sw (silverwolf) apeard, SW is an expy of bronnie and "silver wolf" was bronya zaychik's mercenary name (she was known for her silver hair thus she was given the name silver wolf of the urals, in context bronya was taken care of by her uncle maxim bc her parents are dead, her uncle then tought her to be a mercenary, then one day the happenings of "azure waters" happend and thats how bronya life becomes) so in basic terms its like this bronya zaychik > bronnie > silver wolf bronya rand ^ i hope that explain that all bronya's are bronya's variant 20:43 yes its logical given hi3 only has jp and cn dub, unfortunately for cn bronya rand, hanser va (bronya zaychik and sw cn va) she mention her voice was not deep enough for bronya rand thus the position of the voice actor for bronya rand was taken by keqing cn va but she managed to get sw va 24:24 its pronounced zay- shik, or zay-chik what even u pefer
@cassida74277 ай бұрын
THE CACOON THING IS THE SAME FOR GALLAGHER. A IDENTITY CREATED BY USING DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE FAMILY
@anyanP7 ай бұрын
Silver Wolf case in razor language: she’s a copy of a copy So while Bronya HSR is a variant of Bronya HI3 Silver Wolf is a variant of Bronie HI3 who is a variant of Bronya HI3
@fearjunkie7 ай бұрын
Hoyo knows the number one rule of worldbuilders: DON'T THROW AWAY OLD IDEAS.
@meerzanazmi28236 ай бұрын
30:28: somehow I'm reminded of Keqing Eng VA(Kayli Mills) also voiced the MC of Class of 09 XD Love how most Voice actors started somewhere XD Time to look into this game
@samya5197 ай бұрын
I wonder if he will play impact 3rd. otherwise id love him to watch the whole summary of honkai impact 3rd part 1, since it wraps up the story of otto apocalypse, welt yang and void archives. the herrscher referenes will also make way more sense that way
@BoneyMiles7 ай бұрын
Theres something everyone in the comments is forgetting about the SW Bronya situation. Bronya Rand is also a variant of a variant. She is a vartiant of Adult Bronya from APHO. Who herself is an adult variant of Bronya Zaychik the main honaki story. So we basically have 2 variants of vartiants of Bronya Zaychik.
@Yaori9997 ай бұрын
But APHO Bronya isn't a variant, it's literally just her post-time skip. Variant = Expy, no? And APHO isn't that, it's the same world. I mean, APHO designs literally happen in the last chapter of Part 1.5, the MAIN story.
@uwu-chan7 ай бұрын
APHO Bronya isn’t a variant of child bronya. She’s Bronya but grown up. I’m pretty sure that the devs stated that apho was canon just 8 years into the future. Also, with the first chapter/pre chap (with Kiana, helia and coralie being trained by Kiana, we see Mei and Bronya in the apho versions. Which means it’s canon) Bronya Rand is a variant of just Bronya Zaychik. Not “apho bronya”. Literally.
@bamboozledtree68037 ай бұрын
If anyone is still confused just know that acheron has nothing to do with raiden mei from any of the other honkai series and she's just an alternate version of them in the HSR universe so even if you don't know the lore of their other versions of her you can still enjoy acheron's story as a stand alone character in hsr
@Silverware8675 ай бұрын
Silver Wolf is an expy of the captainverse alternate version of HI3 Bronya that's why both bronya and silver wolf exist in hsr bc bronya is an expy of main story bronya and silver wolf is an expy of bronie/haxorbunnie also with the silver wolf alias thing BRONYA (not bronie) uses it and I think they used silver wolf for hsr bc they didn't want to name her haxorbunnie or bronie so they used silver wolf bc 1. Its a alias and i think a character like silver wolf wouldn't use her birth name (or it's just cool be you would choose a cool name for your alias so even if its her birth name they want to make silver wolf "cool") 2. Its a name that's apart of the bronya variant expy parallel universe thing
@justabooberv42987 ай бұрын
All of the honkai games are connected by what we call the honkai universe, but they're all different things, the characters are similar and their stories are connected but they're more of alternate versions of each other, i'm bad at explaining bc honkai lore it's complicated af, but Homu Labs has a really good video explaining the connection between the games and a little bit of a basis of the honkai universe, including Houkai Gakuen, GGZ, HI3rd, Star Rail, and even Genshin
@SirCoffeebotESQ7 ай бұрын
"Bat wielding maniac." ... I mean he's not wrong.
@shoothoot7 ай бұрын
I am so excited for him to see the HI3 animations
@TheRealIronMan7 ай бұрын
Yeah in Silver Wolf's character trailer you can see her playing Honkai 3 as Bronnie.
@atriyakoller1367 ай бұрын
Well, I can easily tell you have never played impact 3rd, the game's outfits are on their own level of revealing sometimes 😅 mostly Similar to Star Rail though
@shanedoesyoutube80017 ай бұрын
As far back as Sumeru 3.2, he did speculate the Honkai as the forbidden knowledge Except it wasn't Honkai Impact 3rd he mentioned, but Honkai 3rd Impact
@_tadashi_21027 ай бұрын
Now we are waiting for the reaction to the whole plot of Honkai Impact 👍
@RoninBlackwing7 ай бұрын
The HoYo writers really picked a bunch of concepts they like writing about and went "how many different ways can we present and explore these" and then the company made a game for each one. Hats off to both sides of this equation.
@knightofwisdom88517 ай бұрын
Ah the good old days when me & my homie were discussing the honkai lore until midnight
@shanedoesyoutube80017 ай бұрын
Reminds me of people talking about attempting to summarize Warhammer 40k
@natasha011087 ай бұрын
To simply explain variants. Bronya Zaychick, Bronie, Bronya Rand, Silver Wolf, Silver Wing, Broboli... These are all "Bronyas" they are based from Bronya model, traits and lore but they make them unique to each other. They dont know each other, or they are not connected, but they are all bronya variants. As an analogy, its like Peter Parker, Ben Riley, Miles Morales. They are all Spiderman. About the JP VA, most of the time, atleast from the trio Kiana, Bronya and Mei. The JP VA of these 3 are the same VA on all games.. and yes Tsaritsa will for sure the JP VA of Bronya. They are so consistent to the point you can even predict if a character is a another expy. Like how Acheron was a Mei because of Raiden Mei VA same with Raiden Shogun. Like Bronya Rand and Silver Wolf have same VA. In the case of silver wolf, the easiest clue if it is a Bronya, is the VA, next is the Drill Hairstyle, Silver Haired Color, Grayi Eyes, 2 overlapping bangs, gamer, hacker, gun user, Prometheus, bunny, wolf. These just clues and criteria that they use for it a character to be a Bronya.
@PositiviteaTheFirst7 ай бұрын
Bronya's name when she was an assassin is Silver Wolf of the Urals
@ShadowCatGambit2 күн бұрын
As someone who has never played Honkai Impact 3rd, but also have looked up a humble amount of lore and animated shorts, I feel like Honkai Impact 3rd might have more potential than even Honkai Star Rail itself, and I think that's because the story is more focused on the characters so you have more time to be attached to them, as opposed to Star Rail, where you have a new set of characters every trailblaze.
@rosedaniels21197 ай бұрын
I can't wait for your future reactions on homulabs content
@luisreynamboarcos29587 ай бұрын
The only other franchise as convoluted as this one that wasn't created during WWII is Fate. I fucking love both of them.
@al1037 ай бұрын
Version of Bronya in HI3 50000 years past was AI Prometheus. So not only Silver Wolf is Bronya, her AIs are also Bronyas. PS. Also Silver Wolf is not named Bronya because she don't know her name. Which is continuity nod to Haxxor Bunny who is Bronie because person her dropped her to her caretaker didn't remembered her name properly so name change.
@LimePlaysgames-Lime7 ай бұрын
I hope hoyoverse adds Kyyushou Houraiji from Houkai Gakuen 2 AKA Gungirlz. Her personality is like Fischl from genshin and she was one of the important characters.
@uzumazin50997 ай бұрын
I WAS HOPING AS WELL!!! 😭😭😭
@LimePlaysgames-Lime7 ай бұрын
@@uzumazin5099 Maybe Hoyoverse can add Kyuushou through some space time shenanigans or something for impact 3rd or reintroduce her for star rail. Like in star rails Sparkle trailer there is a Japanese world, maybe we will see her there. And Honkai impact 3rd can reintroduce her as someone who helps Bronya Zaychik with her games since Kyuushou Houraiji made The HOMU games In Houkai Gakuen 2. HOMU are those yellow bunny looking things with a spikey toothed grin that Bronya likes.
@aiofg75457 ай бұрын
Bronie the hacker is a Variant of main Bronya thats understood Silver wolf is a Variant of Bronie the hacker making her also a variant of all Bronya that has been introduced Bronya Rand is a variant of Bronya main so making her a variant of Silver wolf my god is it that hard to understanding also all Bronya variant have a twirl hair style even Silver wolf
@hanbaebummie32157 ай бұрын
Now I just need him to react to the animation’s x.x