The ENTJ Personality Type "The Rational Commander" with Kat Krueger | Type Talks E109

[@StraightLineMusic]

One way I’m learning to identify Te-doms is the “monologue” - ask them a question and they can just go, sentences coming out fully formed etc but then you realise... they’re just thinking out loud.

[@nonamenoidea9792]

That’s such a great point. I do tend to share my thoughts out loud as I am assembling its direction.

[@StraightLineMusic]

Coming back to this comment and I think it was Joyce who told me this in my comment on a previous video looool 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@elfiesageran1585]

Good advice

[@HaukLanglo]

That IS what actually happens. -entj

[@kellikakes81]

Yes!!

[@lindslou9654]

In awe of what ENTJs can accomplish! ENTJs are absolutely amazing & effective systems creators. The way they come up with practical & sustainable solutions to problems is astounding. It comes so naturally to them. Absolutely love ENTJs!! 💗💗

[@ipesina]

I completely feel no guilt about being unproductive. I revel in my relaxation. Not all ENTJs are crazy energizer bunnies

[@keithgarber2469]

I am pretty certain that my late wife, Julie, was an ENTJ. I am an INTJ. We were a perfect match.

[@MoPoppins]

Interesting. You two must’ve been a VERY efficient & effective pair! As with Brady the ESFP, who’s married to an ENFP, you and your wife didn’t want/need a partner to compensate for your weak parts, since you both were already well-rounded and had more or less developed your respective weaknesses (I’m assuming), so you were able to enjoy just being yourselves and living mostly in your wheelhouse.

[@icanrelate]

I'm sorry that you had to endure that loss. ENTJs + INTJs certainly are a wonderful pair.

[@falstaff9716]

Sorry for your loss. Thanks for sharing. That's very helpful to know.

[@lindslou9654]

Fascinating how Kat lights up talking about her 3rd function SE.

[@samuelunias673]

YES!!

[@baaf777]

Kat also described Se well

[@grumpyschnauzer]

Okay, so ENTJs are cool (my sister is one and we get along fine) but I (INxJ) remember seeing her "order" her 4 year old son to sit on her lap, "Come sit on Mommy's lap NOW!" (for no reason; just because she wanted to snuggle) but I started laughing and asked her, "Wouldn't you rather him "choose" to come sit on your lap because he WANTS to be close, not because he is being FORCED to?" She kind of snapped out of her dictatorial way of order, laughed, and said, "Nevermind."

[@abstract-thoughts]

Great to see both of you again! Way to represent us Kat 👍💪. I will say some ENTJs are more detail oriented and perfectionistic in nature like myself before a project goes out, maybe getting into the INTJ realm. I recently learned I'm 1w9 which makes total sense. Also, RIGHT ON with sequencing. I call it "algorithm". I'm always looking to see what is the logical order of building a system.

[@kiosikrueger]

Great point Christian! I think one distinction might be, who do you work for and/or who is the end user? When I worked in a corporate environment, my standards were really high in terms of what I was producing, because I had a client (whether internal or external) to satisfy. However, these days I work for myself and there's no superior to judge my performance. My end user is a particular type of tenant who may or may not care how much attention I put into the details - but you're actually pointing out something about Te which makes it so great - it knows how much effort to put in before the returns start to diminish. It understands its audience or its goal. I care about my tenants experience; I want to put together houses that I myself would want to live in; but I also know that I'm fussier about certain details than my average tenant, so my Te is good at knowing 'how far to go', before those efforts are wasted/not necessary/have little impact. Especially because those extras take time and money :) This is actually a really cool insight, thank you.

[@kiosikrueger]

Adding that I think all ENTJs have high standards. And they are so important to who we are fundamentally that we may not even view them as "high standards" - it's just like, of course. If not, then why bother? But for me - not perfectionism for perfectionism's sake. Details yes, where they matter. Back of the napkin calculations or rough estimates can serve us better where details are not important to the end goal. Te looks at details that don't help us get to the goal like, "who cares? Don't waste my time". But if the details matter in the end, absolutely. Te just knows instinctively when and where they're needed :)

[@abstract-thoughts]

@@kiosikrueger absolutely. High standards are the norm for us. I work with lots of data and can find issues that no one else notices or cares about. I think it would be interesting to see how ENTJs differ between different enneagrams. That can probably explain differences between different ENTJs.

[@adhistie1694]

ENTJs are intimidating because they seems very mature because they are mature, people who get their shit together are mature. It's the unfair advantage of Te. I love Kat from the 5 ENTJ interview so I'm so thankful you did this one Joyce! If you can, please do another one with Nii too!

[@nonamenoidea9792]

An an ENTJ woman I’m very grateful for this. Kat is very relatable and a great example of a healthy/developed ENTJ.

[@amanda248ify]

I think is clearness in our values and knowing that we are going go to follow them, what allow us to "ignore" our daily emotions and being effective

[@samuelunias673]

I admire people that know how to use their tertiary function like Kat.

[@icanrelate]

It's funny that she brought up being an ENTJ woman - which is obvious since she's a woman lol, but I forget about sex & gender at times. I used to love hanging out with guys up into my 20s, but I ran into trouble being myself - "acting like a boy." I've had to figure out how to balance both my feminine and masculine sides so that I can get better along with others. People tend to like me better when they think I'm "weak" or a "mother figure." In Jr college, when I was elected as president of the business honors club, I was referred to as "lady president" - why? why "lady president"? I don't hear men being referred to as "gentleman president" or some crap like that lol Even ex-bfs gave me a hard time for not acting "girly" or being "PROUD" to be a woman lol Thankfully I now have a wonderful ENFP husband who I can be myself with.

[@icanrelate]

@Has Goodles This comment wasn't for you. It was for Joyce.

[@samuelunias673]

It's interesting that even when Kat was talking about inferior Fi it was described more as a general condition, not how it is for her (she used the word "we" a lot). And It is funny that Kat made the same differenciation between listening time and solving time as Amy (ESTJ) did.

[@lindslou9654]

What a fascinating observation, Samuel! That IS interesting.

[@FlowState]

I'm excited for this one

[@ignatiusvalentinez4184]

That "good enough" attitude is so bizarre to me as an ISTP. Seeing how other people think and evaluate risk, cost, etc is a game changer.

[@MisterMind12]

Joyce Meng, I commend you on your attention to detail, and your interview style. Great job, and I now have a better understanding of the ENTJ, which I happen to be. Kudos.

[@JoyceMeng22]

Wonderful! That makes me incredibly happy to know, @Mister Mind KE. 🙂

[@petrahorcicova6641]

Thank you for this video. It helped me a lot to realize I am actually a normal human being ... not a monster.

[@yanival8760]

To me I dont understand the healthy and unhealthy term, just being human is unhealthy we all strive to do out best to evolve but society seems to be more interested on evolving in systems and technology and things but not as a human. Be objective and honest with self and you will find your next to do to be the best version of your self today that you were yesterday 🙏🏼

[@TheBittenBullet]

I got confused at the 13-14 minute mark. She started out saying that ENTJs are more willing to throw it out into the real world before it's perfected, but then she concluded by saying that factoring in all the resources first is more important than getting it out into the real world. Which is it?

[@kellikakes81]

Really informative

[@mikekeathley1120]

“Te is good at sequencing.” Yes and this is the thing I am missing in spades. I can come up with a sequence and Te doms love to ask me what I was thinking and speculate openly about how I have gotten to this point in life having not been able to sequence well.

[@lizdi2813]

I always describe my Ni as Google Earth.🤣 Joyce, your interviews are so rich with content, and I gain so much appreciation for each type from watching them. Now I feel like I need more ENTJs in my life! Thank you for this channel. -INFJ

[@lindslou9654]

Ni as Google earth!! 😆 Love it! Totally agree with you on Joyce's channel! Joyce is bringing so much good & wisdom into the world! Absolutely love learning about all the types. I want more ENTJs in my life too. They are amazing!

[@pixiee970]

Kat reminds me a lot of Michelle Gomez who plays Lilith, an ENTJ in CAOS, they have similar bone structures which are very regal and intimidating (I mean this in the best way possible), similar ways of speaking and conducting themselves, and have a confident presence about them.

[@EugenioFilippi]

100% spot on, thanks for that

[@gigglesmcdounut723]

I'm an ENTJ 7w8. I'm actually really good at gut feeling people out. Its when I don't listen to my gut that I end up wrong. I'm not right all the time but maybe 7.5 out of 10 I'm right. I am also very loyal. Kat is so right. I am definitely loyal to a fault. I had to learn how to let go of loyalty to people who are actually bad for me. I also tell people all the time that I say what I mean and mean what I say. I also never make a promise I can't keep. I know I'll do what I say I will. Even if it takes some time I'll get it done. People are usually surprised by how direct I am. I mean what I say and I tell people that and they are still surprised by it lol. I don't know what else to tell people.

[@meredith18352]

Are ENTJ's good at reading people? I don't think so. My mum is an ENTJ and she is awful at reading people, my sister and I used to watch her in horror as she would hug people who clearly didn't want it and say the most inappropriate things. She is good at getting things done and was cursed with 2 xNFP daughters which must have driven her crazy since we are both masters of procrastination.

[@samuelunias673]

I believe it's more in a sense they can see what are your goals and how close you are to achieve them. I think an ENTJ wouldn't want to spend their energy trying to read emotion and intentions lol

[@abecadlo15]

But thats just anecdotal evidence, you can't use one example of an ENTJ, (assuming that you typed her correctly which is not a given) to describe a whole type

[@gigglesmcdounut723]

I'm an ENTJ and I'm actually very charming if I want to be. Your mom might just be bad at reading people.

[@nonamenoidea9792]

Is there a way to connect with other female entjs?

[@schwerpunkt7687]

Entj do well with Isjf as well. Leadership Critical-thinking Strategic

[@dougg1976]

Woww thank you for this interview , I learnt a lot about Te , amazing ! What type are you Joyce ? Im INFJ .

[@JoyceMeng22]

Glad you enjoyed learning about Te! :) I am an INFJ, Douglas.

[@dougg1976]

@@JoyceMeng22 wowwww cool 😁😃

[@ashleyching5786]

The end of sentence upward inflection for women is common even in ENTJ women…

[@ashleyching5786]

Te - Who cares, it works?

[@ashleyching5786]

Just throw it in the real world and see what works

[@ashleyching5786]

Sequencing tasks for efficiency

[@ashleyching5786]

If it’s worth it, just have it be good enough.

[@ashleyching5786]

Real world feedback

[@GanNaRay]

I would really like to join your discord community. The current discord link does not seem to work for me. I would appreciate an operational invite to your discord server Joyce! ^__^

[@JoyceMeng22]

Thank you for letting me know! Hopefully this link works: discord.gg/JAdZr4Y

[@GanNaRay]

@@JoyceMeng22 Yes that link works! Thx!!!

[@hirsch4155]

Why do Americans need to say in the intro “I’m so happy to be here”? Not a criticism, just an observation.

[@hirsch4155]

Is it a deflection, because of her Te type of job, eg landlords get a bad rap sometimes? Trying to seem nicer? Or just an Americanism.

[@Kayla-xo5wj]

Good point! I think Americans push the emotional labor phenomenon. It’s basically the principle of staying happy and helpful all the time while at work. They train us to keep our emotions at bay majority of the time, so it’s probably an automatic response to say “I’m happy to be here”

[@kyleelliotc]

It is supposed to be out of respect, but most of the time it is an empty automatic response. It is especially drilled into us Americans that live in the southern part of the US.

[@icanrelate]

It's a pleasantry - a polite social remark. Just like: "Hi, how are you?" "I'm fine. Thank you." However, perhaps she was happy to engage in this discussion with Joyce and there wasn't anything more to it than that. Where are you from? Curious as to why the pleasantry seems peculiar.

[@hirsch4155]

@@icanrelate I’m Dutch but I live in Canada now. Canadians are a little more toned down in interviews, pleasantries are exchanged but not so blunt. I actually like the warmth and charm of some US pleasantries, especially of the South and sometimes Midwest. But the rest of the country is a little blunt with them and for me it comes across as a bit dispassionate. On the other hand Canadians are a little too sedate in general and uptight, and the Dutch are down-to-earth but a little stubborn and cynical. But I love all.