The Enzo Fernandez & Argentina Backlash Over "Racist" Chant Explained

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@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
*Since most wont even watch the video but go directly to the comments, let me just say that racism should be kicked out of any sport but if we're fighting racism, then this isn't it* Crying out wolf every time doesn't make a difference. Playing the racism card every time, only gives power to real racists and hurts future victims. Lastly, why in the world would you sing about the French team when you've just won the Copa America?!
@zarbon700
@zarbon700 5 ай бұрын
It's amazing how people who haven't experienced racism think they have authority to define what is or isnt racist. What makes you believe you know than those who experience racism?
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection you’re still missing the point. This is not about crying wolf. Again I dare you to suggest the same when it comes to anti-Semitism. You made a comment asking why the black French players are offended and suggesting they aren’t proud of where they come from. The whole French team including white players have dual nationalities. Griezman, Rabiot, Zidane (in the past) but no songs about them? Most of these players were born in France and know very little about the countries their parents come from. If these players were white there would be no song… Sounds like a racist chant to me no matter how you try to sugarcoat it.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
@@zarbon700 So by your logic, racism can only be defined by one group of people? What makes me believe I know about it? Hmmm maybe because I live in this world, have eyes, ears and a brain.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
@@jamesvader5836 You don't seem to understand the difference between religion and race. I'll repeat myself again because you think you can catch me on a I got you moment. Being offended does not make something racist and antisemitic.
@zarbon700
@zarbon700 5 ай бұрын
​@@TheSportsZection Yes! Deal with it. Due to the facts you have no experiences with racism, there are many aspects of it you will NEVER be able to understand which will cause you to not acknowledge its existence. Your personal feelings based off watching media, reading articles/books doesn't trump personal life experiences.
@David-035
@David-035 5 ай бұрын
Racism doesn’t just need to be “I don’t like people of X origin”. It can come in more discreet forms. The chants imply that France’s players of African descent (most of whom were ironically born in France) are less French because they have African origins. Notice how other players’ ethnicities - eg. Griezmann who has Portuguese roots - are not sung about. It’s just the French players who have African roots which are called out. The song basically alludes to them being less French because they’re black. And for those people saying “it’s factual” - yes, it is a fact, but it does not negate the undertone behind the chant. Does it therefore make it okay for French players to sing songs about how some Argentines are descendants of Nazis, since this is also a fact?
@laurellejoseph4223
@laurellejoseph4223 5 ай бұрын
Spot on
@hello-si7gq
@hello-si7gq 5 ай бұрын
Great comment
@DominicanKnight
@DominicanKnight 5 ай бұрын
I need to laugh at this. First off. Argentines dont like germans. Notice that u dont see last name thas german. I dont think u guys seem to get it. They r making fun of france. That need to import african players to play for their national team. Why they know white french people sucks. They r not attackin blk people. They r attacking white french people. Calling them out n saying u need another group to represent u. Thats what they r tryin to say. Argentinians dont like the french. Remember they went to war at each other. Thats whole point. Why dont they attack greizmann? Because he isnt a star player. Thas why.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
So yes, the song is offensive, but is it racist? No. That song about Nazis would be offensive, not racist.
@allsportsmatter
@allsportsmatter 5 ай бұрын
This guy is brainwashed, undedicated about racism because he's from Belgium who colonized, killed, continue to kill in Congo, steal everything, impoverished them in order to develop Belgium. So it's NORMAN for him.
@matthewstorey7049
@matthewstorey7049 5 ай бұрын
This level of ignorance is why we continue to have this problem. Instead of trying to understand why people are offended we instantly defend stupidity. This obviously has racial component by singing a racist chant.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
It talks about countries. Not race. So maybe Xenophobic
@matthewstorey7049
@matthewstorey7049 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection If you only mention players from African countries and not other players who’s decent isn’t French it’s racist.
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
Just to add… Mbappe’s mom is not Nigerian… this again is a blatant disregard for the individualism of African countries. To the singers… it doesn’t matter… it’s just one whole black Africa… so they are happy to get the facts wrong…
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Was Mbappe called out specifically? Maybe I missed that part
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection Unless I’m mistaken the chat about his dad being Cameroonian and Mom Nigerian was in reference to Mbappe.
@vern187
@vern187 5 ай бұрын
I advise you to do research and learn the history of France and Africans. You’re not French or African so you don’t get it. Instead of making a video of saying you don’t see the racist, go ask your French or African friends if you have any why this song is offensive. You sound a little ignorant saying. I don’t see it. Of course you don’t.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Wait so which one is it? If I have read and learned about French and African history (which I have since I'm from Belgium), can I get it or can I not get it? The song might be offensive (even though it's just stating facts), that does not make it racist.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
And for your info, I've spoken with plenty of real Africans in the past hours, and most of them agree that playing the racist card here is BS.
@vern187
@vern187 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection So I guess Wesley Fofana who is a very intelligent guy. Who has since put up the Ivory Coast 🇨🇮 flag on his page. Doesn’t know what he’s talking about and the meaning of racism? I don’t think Enzo Fernandez is racist btw. I think he’s being a young idiot in that moment and should not be judge by that. But I question the knowledge of those African friends my friend.
@NoreeII
@NoreeII 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZectionyou just got told EXACTLY why in your top comment and have ignored and responded to this instead. U clown🇵🇸🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉🇵🇸🍉
@NebojsaMilenkovic-j8q
@NebojsaMilenkovic-j8q 5 ай бұрын
I loved this "because we are country not a Disney movie".
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
It's also funny because it never goes both ways. You won't see anyone asking why is there no white player playing for Angola
@salbornoz1
@salbornoz1 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZectionbecause Angola doesn’t naturalize players to benefit them?
@matthewstorey7049
@matthewstorey7049 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZectionPlease elaborate? Why do you think there’s no white players playing for Angola? Is it discrimination or colonization?
@androxavanti
@androxavanti 5 ай бұрын
France is a Disney movie, not a country.
@NebojsaMilenkovic-j8q
@NebojsaMilenkovic-j8q 5 ай бұрын
All this is because people do understand the difference between NATION and PEOPLE. There are prety accurate definitions of People(Folk) and Nation.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
People lack the ability to think these days
@fa5234
@fa5234 5 ай бұрын
Purée t'es belge et tu vois pas de racisme? Tu fais semblant c'est pas possible! Si quelqu'un vient dire de Lukaku ou de Kompany qu'ils ne sont que des belges de papier alors qu'ils sont nés et ont grandis en Belgique tu vois pas le racisme? T'es c.on ou tu fais semblant ?
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Pcq je suis Belge, je dois voir le racisme partout? Mais dans quel monde de merde tu vies toi?
@wesdug7151
@wesdug7151 5 ай бұрын
Spain, Germany, France, and England they are no better than Argentinians. The only difference is, they are more diverse and know how to suppress what they can say.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Plenty of other parts in the world that are very racist... And not just towards black people
@Fistontechi
@Fistontechi 5 ай бұрын
Spain is known for Racism But We didn't see anything Near Racism After Winning the Euro's
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
This wasn't racism either. In Spain you had Morata talking/laughing about Musiala and Cucu about Haaland (they were probably drunk)
@Fistontechi
@Fistontechi 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZectionthey were Laughing at Them because They are Black And No France Originated
@davso91
@davso91 5 ай бұрын
A half arab/black kid got them a trophy so that would be unwise
@zarbon700
@zarbon700 5 ай бұрын
It's amazing how people who haven't experienced racism think they have authority to define what is or isnt racist. What makes you believe you know more than those who experience racism?
@loganbrown1603
@loganbrown1603 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZectionwasn’t cucurella just joking how Haaland won’t be able to get around him next season? No?
@AK74W-n3x
@AK74W-n3x 5 ай бұрын
Those players were born in France, or spent the majority of their lives in France so raised in France taught how to play the game in France, but apparently they don’t have the right to choose to play for France😭😂 ok and furthermore none of the players have any Nigerian background. And a couple of them don’t even have an French Caribbean background not African They were obviously trying to be assholes go by your logic then why did they mention the other French players who have a Spanish and German background no they only mentioned the people with African backgrounds. Wonder why
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
"they don’t have the right to choose to play for France" Says who?
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
Didn’t I just say I don’t think Enzo is racist…?The chant is racist, I rest my case. Let’s just agree to disagree and see some of your usually good analysis, I agree with you in that area more.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Let’s just agree to disagree. I like the respectful convo :)
@BrucePatterson-b5g
@BrucePatterson-b5g 5 ай бұрын
@ThesportsZection !! So if i said your grandparents was nazis so it's ok!!! It's good to be connected to your roots
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Did they say anything close to that? No. The fact that you can't even understand the difference is scary
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
@thesportsZection let me explain why the song is racist. 1. Why have we never heard any songs of players from other European countries playing for another European country? For example Jorginho is Brazilian, he plays for Italy. Yet never a song about that even though Argentina and Brazil are the biggest rivals. Why is the focus on the black players? 2. You right said, they just won the Copa America.. why song about France? 3. Let’s change the words of this song and replace it with Jews playing for countries other than Isreal… would you say it’s not anti-Semitic? I would like to see you say the same in this regard if you dare. 4. The country in question has not a single black player… plus has a questionable history when it comes to blacks and why you hardly ever see black Argentinians. I don’t think Enzo is a racist, but this chant is definitely racist. Please respond with your thoughts to counter my argument if you are truly convinced it’s not racism.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
1. That wouldn't be considered racist either. 2. No clue 3. Why are you mixing race and religion? Christians aren't allowed to play in other countries? That point just doesn't make a lot of sense. 4. Like the post said, it's not a Disney movie. Why doesn't the Jamaican track team have white sprinters? Being offended does not make it racist.
@fa5234
@fa5234 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection He's not mixing race with religion since you cannot be jewish by choice ! (Yes those converts exist but they are not considered jews or even get an israeli passport) unlike religions like christianity or Islam you can only be jewish if you mother is! So jewish is a race furthermore you would not dare to chant songs about jews playing for France because it's indeed racist !
@jamesvader5836
@jamesvader5836 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I get your point unfortunately. What does the ability of black Jamaican sprinters have to do with racist chants. Again let’s not shift the topic, else it becomes a pointless discussion. I can guarantee you that if Jamaica had a white sprinter that can run as fast as Usain Bolt, he would be allowed to represent Jamaica.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
So that's exactly the point. If they had a black player who played as well or better than those in the squad, he would play. If you keep thinking that everyone and everything is racist, forget about ever solving the issue.
@Winchesterhouse1
@Winchesterhouse1 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like ur blaming the blk players offended by the chant and not the players singing racist songs
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Where did I blame the French players? I did blame the social media accounts.
@TheAngrySportsfan01
@TheAngrySportsfan01 5 ай бұрын
Mhh i don't think you understand the situation or what its like to be that position.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
I think I understand the situation and you don't have to be in that position that understand it. Weak excuse to label something racist.
@AKDeh
@AKDeh 5 ай бұрын
Can you tell me which player's parent came from Angola? ooh I know they all Africans, English. Apparently English isn't your first language, so I can't blame your ignorance.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Angola stays Angola in English, French, Spanish, German, Dutch, etc... so the point you're trying to make might have been a good one in your head but it's worthless in practice.
@AKDeh
@AKDeh 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection As usual, you failed to answer a simple question. I can see that conversing with you will be as challenging as extracting blood from a stone. Remain in ignorance. Good Luck
@srikothur2845
@srikothur2845 5 ай бұрын
Move to America. You would fit in well.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
That's the plan, at least they still have freedom of speech
@TheKatchutes
@TheKatchutes 5 ай бұрын
It’s not racist! But yes it’s offensive!
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@hello-si7gq
@hello-si7gq 5 ай бұрын
You are sooo out there😂😂 These players were born in FRANCE which makes them THEY FRENCH!!
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Which is exactly what I said...
@rosei10
@rosei10 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. My only issue is why sing a song about France after beating Columbia. The race card getts over played. I have been called the n word many times but thanks to my foundation ✝️, I am not phased. On the flip if this was an African team singing about an European in the same context it will not be seen as racist, which is a double standard.
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Agreed and well said
@nardostetemeqe
@nardostetemeqe 5 ай бұрын
It's not discrimination, it is a fact! Are they ashamed of their roots? For your information in 2018, France players said more personal insults to Messi and moking Asian players no one called for an apology or took to discrimination
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it is strange indeed
@fa5234
@fa5234 5 ай бұрын
@@TheSportsZection they are denying black players their right to be french because of their african descent while they are in fact born in France and raised french (schools, culture) that's racism 101 you fool
@allsportsmatter
@allsportsmatter 5 ай бұрын
It's NOT the case. You show lack of education & banished. Africa, slavery, black people are used in bad sense of poverty, slavery, colonization etc... Telling people to go back to Africa in the jungle is telling them u are less of human being. I don't expect u to understand that since your mind is set. They are NOT ashamed of being black, it's been used to hide racism & insults
@benyoussefsami7094
@benyoussefsami7094 5 ай бұрын
Bro he insult his team mate for me that in acceptable you need to respect your friends at least chanting behind lock doors 👌
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
How did he insult his teammate? By saying they have African roots?
@benyoussefsami7094
@benyoussefsami7094 5 ай бұрын
@TheSportsZection they choose france 🇫🇷 dude and he make jokes they are not happy about that, so it's insulted for them
@TheSportsZection
@TheSportsZection 5 ай бұрын
@@benyoussefsami7094 The fact that you just said that they chose France shows the truth in the chant. They were born in France, so obviously they should play for France.
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