The Erfurt Latrine Disaster - A Meeting From Hell - European History - Extra History

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You ever have a meeting go so poorly that 60 men all fell into a latrine and drowned? Yeah it's a hard bar to clear. So let's talk about the Erfurt Latrine Disaster in the Holy Roman Empire and how Luis III came away somehow smelling of roses. (Not literally)
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Yes

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[@stevemc01]

I bet that neutral spectator who said “This is gonna be a shitshow” is real proud of himself after that…

[@ryanweible9090]

afterwards he was in deep...ya know.

[@arturoreyes2119]

Or they saw what happened and felt like a load of crap

[@stevemc01]

@@arturoreyes2119 Lol

[@narcosis1507]

i wounder if this is where that phrase came from

[@Barron198]

In the town but that person said something there was a statue made with a plaque saying the best observational joke ever

[@threewolves98]

"lute player falling down a hole" *wind instrument plays* absolutely unwatchable

[@HansLemurson]

lute? That rhymes with flute! Go get some flute sounds!

[@Pikashockdragon]

I thought the medieval record scratch was a lute player either falling down a flight of stairs or falling out of a window.

[@mrbyzantine0528]

@@Pikashockdragon Definitley falling out a window. Perhaps even... Being thrown out a several story window in Prauge?

[@Pikashockdragon]

@@mrbyzantine0528 Must be a terrible lute player for that to happen. Xp

[@icantthinkofaname8139]

I thought they said flute played?

[@WolfBoy-om6dw]

I feel bad for the people who fell in the sewage and I feel even more bad for the serfs who had to clean that up.

[@sannyassi73]

Well, I do also feel a little bad that I laughed at it too. But ya, that's a crappy way to go ;)

[@Klaaism]

Help help I'm being oppressed!

[@TheGuardianofAzarath]

If there ever was a need for "Just toss a match on it and let it burn", THAT would have been it.

[@scottanno8861]

There's some excellent muck here!

[@mckayleepugmire9947]

Least desirable job award

[@euansmith3699]

That was hilariously weird and unfortunate. "Erfurt Latrine Disaster" sounds like a Krautrock band.

[@bbirda1287]

A little grosser than Gwar "maggots, falling like rain..."

[@thomasendter6770]

Could be. We have punk bands here named "Gülleschiss" (slurry shit).

[@petertrudelljr]

"Fecal Chowder" is their Punk Rock equivalent.

[@rkt739]

In German it would be Erfurter Latrinensturz

[@bobbygoestoabyss6624]

It also be a great name for a Punkrock band.

[@DragoniteSpam]

[dutifully adds "several important figures died by falling through the broken floor into a latrine, but after taking a bath Lewis lived happily ever after" to his List Of Historical Events That Sounds Like It Was Concocted By A Nine-Year-Old] edit: for those asking what else is on the list, there are a few good ones mentioned in the replies

[@dcjplays4507]

What else is on that list?

[@1Ring42]

The world must know.

[@DragoniteSpam]

@@dcjplays4507 The meme fiesta that was the Peoples' Crusade comes to mind

[@DarkElfDiva]

Don't forget the Saxon king who was stabbed in the ass while taking a dump by a Viking hiding in his toilet.

[@DragoniteSpam]

Oh, and let's not forget about Giustina Rossi, who stopped a revolt by hucking stoneware out a window at a passing army, and the Defenestration of Prague, the only thing better than which is the fact that it happened more than once.

[@jordancarroll2121]

“… drowned in fecal chowder….” A combination of words I never thought to hear let alone write.

[@rollingthunder1043]

And a combination I could have gladly gone my entire life never having to contemplate

[@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

@@rollingthunder1043 me too man YAK🤢

[@manarmsgaming9223]

"Well, The Emperor had a lot of nephews, but not a lot of great parties, you know?" God these guys are a KZbin treasure!

[@Hendricus56]

Yes. Nothing speaks against making clear what happened with a small joke

[@vassily-labroslabrakos2263]

Especially if the party thrower is a high ranking official and Prince-Elector. And might ensure the next king of the Germans is crowned Emperor.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@vassily-labroslabrakos2263 Aren't you mixing things up? The King of the Germans gets elected and then asks the Pope to make him Emperor. Or did that change some time before the HRE got dissolved?

[@Hendricus56]

@@kaltaron1284 No, you are right. At first it were many princes who voted, later 7, but it was always the king who was elected, but he was also automatically the Emperor, even if not crowned. But this story happened nearly 2 centuries before the change (1184 this, 1356 the change), but an arch bishop could influence a lot of votes towards a different candidate

[@vassily-labroslabrakos2263]

@@kaltaron1284 I think I might have.

[@nate2064]

"history is written by the people who did not die in the toilet" Elvis and Andrew Breitbart will never write history

[@user-zv6cf3km6h]

Tywin will never write history

[@kaitlnwhite6809]

Neither will Catherine the Great

[@VAIZEN]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ccggenius]

Elvis died ON the toilet, not in it. Important distinction, that.

[@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494]

There's a difference between dying in the toilet and dying ON the toilet

[@polifemo3967]

This might have been a silly little insignificant incident, but I learned some really cool stuff about the middle ages: 1) castles and churches had latrines right beneath them, and they were utterly disgusting and might not get cleaned up in a while 2) There were minor land disputes between minor dukes in the holy roman empire, a thing that I always suspected but never really saw until now 3) manuscripts really were prized by nobles back then I hope y'all keep making these small history episodes, that reveal so much about day to day life in history.

[@Artur_M.]

I recommend a video about this very event by M. Laser History. It goes more into the details of the dispute. The whole channel is amazing and underrated in my opinion.

[@LuvzToLol21]

The funniest thing about the Holy Roman Empire was it was not Roman, not an Empire, and not all that Holy.

[@revanius2213]

Well it almost became something very major since the future Holy Roan Emperor nearly died, plus several nobles did die. It would have been an even more humiliating death than the heir to the Kingdom of France who died falling over a pig

[@Ghreinos]

​@@LuvzToLol21It was all of them you said, atleast at one point.

[@brule1763]

"Fecal chowder" is now #1 on my list of least favorite phrases.

[@grimarchangel]

i came here to say this thank you

[@ricojes]

"we only serve the good shit here" -some slogan maybe.

[@richardgonzalez6409]

I love these tiny little one shots about topics not really talked about in standard history books, documentaries or channels.

[@shavagreycastle]

Concerning the book theft, Louis DID NOT get off lightly. Remember, this was before the printing press was invented. Any and all books were hand copied and therefore extremely valuable. For all people complained that books were kept from the public and claimed in place, well, don't we do the same for valuables in a museum? There wasn't much use for the peasantry to read if they weren't able to keep Dark Age Jane Austen books in their houses. The nobility, however, needed to read for treaties and contracts and just a general sign of, well, nobility. Any luxury books were a sign of wealth and education, and theft was considered a much more grave matter back in those days.

[@up_down6012]

Most entertaining episode in a while, this guest writer really knows how to tell a good story

[@denniscain7218]

When I discovered you could set this up as part of an assassination plot in Crusader Kings II, I thought the programmers were just being silly 😜

[@rashkavar]

I mean, they were, but you can be inspired to silliness.

[@AverageAwesomeDude]

i mean drowning your enemies in poop is a goddamn power move, especially if you could contribute to the drowning lets say

[@AjarTadpole7202]

Wait what

[@theEWDSDS]

IN CK2? wow! Now I wish that they would add that to CK3... now that I think about it, that would probably be gross.

[@prestonjones1653]

@@theEWDSDS It is in CK3, but not as an assassination plot. You can get an event complaining about the latrines causing a stink in your castle and if you ignore the problem long enough, you can kill your entire court, including yourself.

[@KarlT1999]

"HOLY SHIT!" - A dying german prince probably

[@dudsrescue1472]

As a certified mediator, I’ve never even considered throwing everyone into a pile of crap as a viable conflict management strategy.

[@thomasfoster4370]

why, they've placed their opinions, all you need to do is shove.

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

The city of Erfurt is now located in a country that's responsible for hosting an evil which forced hundreds of people to hide in latrines----as a means of SURVIVAL! That same city also serves as home to an industrial hating and furnace equipment company that participated in that evil!!

[@vladimirlagos2688]

Wouldn't really mind a couple more one-off episodes like this every now and then. History can and often is hillarious.... when you're not the one drowning in poop.

[@lostbutfreesoul]

Seconded.

[@cageybee7221]

@@lostbutfreesoul number 2'd

[@M00nsh0t]

@@cageybee7221 3rded

[@howardlanus8467]

I highly recommend Horrible Histories which talks about the less glamorous parts of history, like how versatile urine has proven.

[@MalWave]

The "lute falling down a hole" needs to be a recurring gag

[@KcBlues01]

YES

[@aidenneonotic2171]

"Lute player falling down a hole" fucking Beautiful

[@petertrudelljr]

Except the sound was of a recorder or piccolo.

[@lindanib541]

"The lucky princes died on impact" I don't why I found this specific phrase hilarious

[@nooneinparticular5256]

Well, given the choice, which would you rather have? Falling to your death, in a rank smelling airspace? Or another form of death, while immersed in the cause of that rank smell?

[@paulchapman8023]

“Tragedy is when I cut my finger; comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.” (Mel Brooks)

[@TheGrimest]

I LOVE the fact that this is the 3rth time we see Barbarossa drown himself on a river.

[@chancekahle2214]

"thirth"

[@andrewhopkins886]

@@chancekahle2214 well I wasn't gonna say anything...

[@jackthevagabond2669]

And of course, it was all that damned Walpole's fault.

[@robertgronewold3326]

3rth?

[@jasminemiller7485]

If I had a nickel for everytime we see Barbarossa drown himself in a river, I would have 3 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened thrice.

[@taylorjohnson9101]

Don't you just hate it when your local lute player falls in a hole?

[@andyjay729]

Especially a hole filled with shit.

[@rollingthunder1043]

While playing a flute no less

[@luisdauajare4842]

whoooeeeww....*thump*

[@nlpnt]

It's interesting how Germany's borders have shifted, there's a whole state - Hessen - between Mainz and Thuringia now. And as someone whose historical interest runs to the Cold War I have to point out that the Hessen/Thüringen state line used to be a hard border, the Iron Curtain itself.

[@Jan-gh7qi]

Hessen came into beeing during the war of Thuringian sucession round about 70 Yeats after the Latrine disaster. After the death oft the last Landgrave of the Ludovinger Dynasty and a long war the two rival factions split the terretory between them. Some enclaves of Mainz remained in Thuringia. (Broadly speaking: all places in Thuringia, that are mostly catholic today)

[@odyssey3666]

That brings a new meaning and definition to the term: "Holy crap."

[@TopsideCrisis346]

Nailed it! 💩

[@ModelAAA90]

Thank the almighty one above that I was born in an era with proper sewage management, clean bathrooms, and normalised hygienic practices. 🤲🏻

[@thomasfoster4370]

and secure flooring.

[@Thorston_the_Just]

Un-de-turd by the incident, Archbiship Conrad went on...

[@TopsideCrisis346]

Perfect pun is perfect. 😎

[@boydgrandy5769]

Our boy Conrad was technically never turded at all. Louis, on the other hand was well and truly deterred, after he got de-turded. Well done!

[@ot0m0t0]

"Monastic discharge" is just utter gold.

[@vaiyt]

literal holy shit

[@theentirenationofsweden7901]

I love the writing and humour of this episode, Duncan really is a great writer.

[@jax5683]

Maybe we should do this to modern politicians if they fail to reach an agreement within a week

[@scoutgaming737]

**YES**

[@Caercutta30]

3...2....1! DROP!

[@theanjanamarandy]

Ye

[@jorgebarriosmur]

Why do you say this? They are reaching agreements every day. Mostly the agrement to screw common people.

[@redwitch12]

I will add that to my personal list of things that could make C-SPAN much more interesting to watch.

[@agapitoliria]

I'm convinced this has to be one of the most hilarious tragedies that actually happened.

[@jotriDerSalzige]

I've been born in Erfurt and I still live here. Never was more proud of this city

[@abthedragon4921]

Every now and then you find those stories in history that sounds too outrageous to be real, but in fact are 😂

[@Mamorufumio]

2020 taught me to always have an open mind

[@nerdletter3773]

>sees title and thumbnail >knows what a latrine is Oh god, do I have the stomach for this?

[@Caribbeanmax]

Always hilarious to see that THIS is the story that comes up as the thing a foreigner knows about my hometown xD

[@kanalisationerstellen]

noch ein Erfurter, wa

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

It wasn't too TOPH living there, was it?!

[@Paveway-chan]

"Throw enough sh*t at the wall, and some of it's gonna' stick." Becomes "Throw enough people into the sh*t, and some of them are gonna' stick."

[@mckayleepugmire9947]

dark humor, oh yeah!

[@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901]

“Cue the record scratch? Or whatever equivalent that’d be, what, a lute player falling in a hole?” *proceeds to play the flute* Conglaturation, a winner is you

[@troperhghar9898]

Jon snow: the time has come to appoint a latrine captain, brain seems like a great job for a ginger

[@SailorNasis]

HE'S THE PRINCE OF THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH!!!

[@chiblast100x]

Poor Hoggle.

[@RainintheBrain]

Tra la la

[@mattiatorX]

STANK-US MCFIFE IS HIS NAME

[@fantasy873]

Oh my gosh, I didn't even think of that! Props dude!

[@TopsideCrisis346]

... But he doesn't know how to play with his crystal balls... 😏

[@alienworm1999]

I love how this episode finally gets into what it was like to be a low-level lord in Europe- the flashy emperors and kings get all the attention, but there were VASTLY more of these petty rulers throughout history

[@RostroexAuro]

As a former resident of Erfurt a very interesting story I didn´t hear about yet, the church has just been reopened as a museum for the german garden exhibition

[@thomasfoster4370]

with a focus on natural fertilizers I presume.

[@MarshallRedmon01]

3:44 You know... just minorly burned down a castle... you know something small

[@BiggestCorvid]

This is why you should use a bidet.

[@lukahutinski9075]

Liked bus still... eww

[@Nitro89]

A bidet would not have helped Jack S*** dude it would only have helped by cleaning their asses better

[@scarletletter4900]

There's something immensely gratifying about the rich dying in a neglected cesspool.

[@zionantoine9629]

Same 😩 🤣🤣🤣

[@VAIZEN]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Jesus Christ you guys are too much!

[@mrspeigle1]

Not quite as satisfying as communists getting thrown out of helicopters.

[@ecurewitz]

@@mrspeigle1 why not both?

[@hithedragon7842]

@@mrspeigle1 ok edgelord

[@alexoisthestupid1469]

Archbishop of Mainz say sorry to Frederick you didn’t support his antipope

[@haka5630]

"Stuff just happens" -History

[@GhostyyBRWL]

😂😂😂

[@fandemusique4693]

Seriously, we need more about the holy roman empire.

[@sukritbera5244]

3:30 Pure gold.

[@jasonfan4701]

"History is written by the people who did not die in a toilet." -Extra Credits, 2021

[@pietro3477]

Still waiting for a series on Temerlane

[@Pavlos_Charalambous]

That episode reminds me of the anti war novel " life in tomb", in some point a soldier gets a medal after dying falling in a pit used as latrine ( his commanding officer didn't wanted to make it worse for the family by explaining how he died) Note that the writer himself was a ww1 veteran and many of the things he was writing was his personal experiences although he was using an after ego fictional character that meanssssss that is a great chance that indeed someone got a medal after falling to his death in a pit of s**t

[@KasumiRINA]

There's a video of a russian soldier being shot through a village toilet door where he was hiding, and another where a burning invader can't put himself out of fire and dunks himself head-first into a well... Not both of these events combined on video... Yet.

[@shinraset]

Yay nothing like being reminded of how bad my floor (in that particular room) is starting to get! Mental note expedite repair stat!!!!

[@norsktysker]

Ok, I am from Erfurt and I did a course to be a city guide many years ago. We did not learn anything about this. And this would have been such a nice story to tell the tourists :-D Little fun fact: The image of Erfurt they are using at 3:06 seems to be from the Nuremberg Chronicle (Schedelsche Weltchronik) which is a really interesiting book from 1493, if you can read old German (there are nice pictures in it, too).

[@joshuawhitebeam3419]

i love how louis's watch is a sun dial tho XD

[@Artur_M.]

Oh, this Sh*t, literally! I learned about this event from a video made 4 months ago by M. Laser, one of the most underappreciated HistoryTubers, in my opinion. Seriously, everyone should check out his channel.

[@AtlasNovack]

The amount of poop puns alone

[@justinminer1354]

As someone who has worked on septic systems, I have to say that I find this story hard to take at face value. An open sewage system releasing sewer gas under your floorboards would be deadly even without the floor collapsing. Sounds like a something jealous peasantry would make up.

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

But then again, people's dental hygiene wasn't all that great; their breath stunk so bad it probably masked the hydrogen sulfide odor.

[@mccoachrailwayproductions8958]

That moment, when you learn about a historic Event that happened in the town you work in for the past five years, from an English KZbin series

[@bittergreentea4550]

I feel like there are politicians who need a good dunking.

[@brendanrivers4737]

"You have to understand: this was before television." 🤣🤣🤣

[@codyweidman4742]

Fecal Chowder?!!? HAHAHA aww yes. I'm gonna remember that one

[@Aaron-pe7xk]

M. Laser (KZbin channel) did this topic a few months ago! He’s really undersubbed and does good obscure content like this!

[@gsektor5645]

Can we commission 1 Fredrick Barbarossa falling into a river and drowning joke once every medieval episode

[@peterkropotkin6224]

Extra Credits that you so very much for the extraordinary work you make into making these animations. They never cease to be both educational and entertaining. Keep up the great work and may you continue to produce content for many years to com.e

[@NathanS__]

More Holy Roman Empire History! I fucking love Medieval Germany

[@gemineyeduality764]

How many are watching this while...ahem...using the latrine?

[@magnvss]

IMAGINE how accustomed people were to shitty stinky smells that they found nothing unusual while being in a room that was literally on top of a huge cesspool full of crap, barely covered by a rotten wooden floor. SMELL? WHAT SMELL? They may have asked.

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

Plus imagine the BAD BREATH!!

[@scribejay]

Extra-ment History You're welcome.

[@onewholovesvenison5335]

Accidentally falling into the toilet at night after someone leaves the seat up doesn’t seem that bad anymore.

[@definitivnicht8882]

I lived in Erfurt for quite a while ... and I didn't know ... I DIDN'T KNOW!!! Imagine all those great conversations I could have had when I tell people about my hometown! 😂😂

[@patrickrose1221]

" DONT move 😫 there's some on my lip"! 😆

[@RovingBiologist]

I absolutely love your channel! As always you’re presentation is superb. And oh my good grief, give whomever came up with the phrase of “fecal chowder” a raise for sheer unabashed creativity!

[@wilsons2415]

FAVORITE KZbinR POSTS AGAIN!!!

[@bernardoheusi6146]

Oh yeah

[@moenchii]

I love this almost unknown historical event and the best thung is I live just 20 minutes away from where it happened.

[@Defox03]

same I was so excited when I saw the video in my inbox :D

[@KibblesteinTheKIbbs]

The lute player falling down a hole was hilarious😂👌🏻

[@emory7288]

“You don’t wanna set up a second Pope with me.. (sobs) I THOUGHT YOU LOVED ME!!!!!!” (Sobs harder)

[@RHR199X]

Imagine something like this happening at a international summit today

[@andyjay729]

7:29 Clean water? Where do you think fish, whales, etc. do their business?

[@Mandrake42]

Oh wow, as soon as you mentioned the floor creaking I remembered the story and the toilet break gag from earlier made sense. What a way to go.

[@marystendi]

That equivalent of a record scratch was perfect

[@masontrinh6880]

“History is written by those who do not die in the toilet”

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

“Luis” or “Lewis” is either Louis in proper English, or “Ludwig” in German.

[@Kat-ez4ni]

this was a great episode... props to everyone involved

[@Googledeservestodie]

I know you see probably won't see this but my suggestion for a series is the story of the LA Aqueduct. On one hand, it's a Marvel of engineering that turned Los Angeles into the cultural Hub it is today, but on the other hand it was an unmitigated environmental disaster that led to many wildlands disappearing and many farmers losing their livelihoods. It's a story that's unfortunately relevant, and one that EC's unbiased approach to history would be perfect for

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

Good idea, considering that Los Angeles drinks the processed sewage from Las Vegas....

[@globe0147]

The HRE is so big and complex, I wonder how many other stories like this happened?

[@karlkarlos3545]

Well there was the 30 years war which started with a couple noble men thrown through a window and landing in manure (und could itself be described as a 30 year long shit storm).

[@TheRealE.B.]

The animation doesn't do it justice, but the "alcove" part of the king's survival gives rise to the headcanon that this was actually a wonderfully-executed mass assassination of a bunch of squabbling princes in the name of political expediency. Efficient? Check. Plausible deniability? Check. Humiliation of the victims, even in death? Check. King's survival looks miraculous? Check.

[@danlines2725]

Just found this. Great work. Thanks for sharing.

[@user-dj7wv5ok2x]

"There once was a man named Clyde, Who fell thru an outhouse and died; And later his brother --he fell thru another, And now they're interred side-by-side!"

[@Heico321]

I'm from Thuringia but never heard this story before. Awesome video! 😃

[@mich8050]

Quite how you managed to make a bunch of Germans dropping into what is basically a pile of monk shit and dying, into a serious event of incredible historical importance is beyond me. It is also mightily impressive

[@someguy4489]

I love your animations and the humor put into it

[@hungryepicboys8895]

Love this, my dad works at the university there but I don’t know much history about the city

[@thinaphonpetsiri9907]

What happened there kinda stinks, literally. Imagine being a noble and then killed by a waste, yikes.

[@briangarrow448]

Imagine being appointed to the job of wiping the king’s ass! And the job was considered to be one of the most important and powerful jobs in any royal court.

[@yonokhanman654]

I lost my ruler in CK2 like this once.

[@cageybee7221]

going from being full of shit to being covered in it.

[@luceliorodrigues7504]

"You destroyed my castle! I'm going to call the emperor on you!"

[@tommyfox854]

I imagen everyones' first words was "HOLY S* * *!!!!"; also the musician falling down a hole still has me laughing. XD

[@sunkist1309]

I love extra history. Was curious about this topic and boom. Y’all had a video about it

[@grimmy24]

"Fecal chowder" Knowing this combination of words exists has not improved my life in any way. You've done me a disservice by allowing this to take up space in my brain.

[@joinmarch76]

I didn't know there was a possibility of Death By Terlet, and yet, here we are! Also, this was surprisingly funny for a one-off that by all accounts technically shouldn't. I'm not usually into toilet humor, but in all fairness, the toilet is not what's so funny. It's more the Murphy's Law aspect of this scene of events, not to mention their consequences overall.

[@thomasmarley3646]

I NEVER want to hear the phrase fecal chowder again.