'God's Law': The Fight to Ban Drag in Idaho

A network of Christian nationalist groups are behind a slew of bills banning drag across the country. Vice News meets the leaders of this movement in Idaho and the drag performers who are impacted.
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[@CaptainFantastic222]

"We want government to follow biblical law" - These people scare the sh*t out of me

[@oshea2300]

Do you want your country to be blessed, or judged and in chaos like it is now? It's only going to get worse because of people are rejecting Jesus Christ

[@BakuganBrawler211]

@@oshea2300 Yeah Jesus sure is good at protecting the holy… say that to the 3 kids and 3 teachers dead now who were attending a catholic school. Separation of church and state or we will become no better than Afghanistan.

[@BakuganBrawler211]

@@oshea2300 You’re who was preached about in the Bible you seek to reach your own desires while using others as pawns to get there.

[@FactStorm]

@@oshea2300 Ever read the 1st Amendment, you psychotic and indoctrinated theocratic vermin?

[@CaptainFantastic222]

@@oshea2300 Would you want other religious beliefs to dictate law? Or only your religious beliefs? See my point? This goes completely against the whole intention and setup of our country. It’s unpatriotic

[@girlandtheglambo9870]

HE SAID "WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO LOOK LIKE IT WAS IN THE 17-1800's" LOL THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERY HUMAN.

[@dandavis8766]

"I wouldn't say America was free in the 18th century." "I would disagree." Really?!?!?!? Institutionalized slavery was free?? Genocide of the native population for white settlement and growth was free?? Out of touch much??

[@scoobyslick4690]

It has, it's alarmed me very much and others. This guy is really scary.

[@jaksanape]

How does the reporter not explicitly bring up slavery, and women's rights? I know he hinted at it, but he should've pushed back harder.

[@DaytimeNightmare]

​@@jaksanapeor whybdoes your gay az....always bring up blk ppl when defending your lifestyle? Trying to make blk ppl defend you ...

[@gadaffi1000]

Yes, the journalist should have pushed back more on that. I'm pretty sure black people didn't think much of the 'freedoms' this fat cvnt speaks of in the 1800's. Evangelists and the right wing in America seem to feed on ignorance.

[@msoda8516]

“America was the most free in the 1700 and 1800’s” when he said that I spit out the tea I was drinking I laughed so hard. As a black woman who is bisexual I can assure you my ancestors were not free.

[@GDL364]

They weren't talking about you.

[@diomio-ri2vo]

Eh they probably were before rich people brought them here. Maybe they even sold off some of their cousins to the slave trade! B^}

[@shylogan5995]

They don’t even think about you

[@bobbylee_]

He meant “most free” to continue their physical and social enslavement of those they marginalized.

[@redmiqo]

@@shylogan5995 neither do your parents

[@hellotorin]

The father of the drag queen said one thing and it was one of the most profound quotes in this entire video "They're trying to build this world where only people like them are allowed to exist." Where have we heard this before?

[@r-platt]

They talk about facts but they only use feelings. These "christians" (small 'c') wield the Bible like a club to force others to comply with their idea of god. Meanwhile REAL Christians use the Bible to HEAL and demonstrate God's power through PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. These people destroy faith and call it good.

[@Sasoripwns]

Dude really said slavery time america was free.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Slavery, killing Natives En Masse and forcing women to marry and have 16+ kids as a "paradise" makes me wanna hurl 😂 Like HOW. IS. THAT. FREEDOM???? And a paradise??? 😂 Good Lord

[@ShirleeKnott]

that's the time maga means that America was great.......

[@LC-xd2zy]

Yeah because he’s white

[@unsrescyldas9745]

@@colleennewholy9026 1- Slavery ended at the time he mentioned. 2- no one killed more natives than natives themselves during the American eastward expansion 3- no one forced women to have that many children, people just had a lot of children naturally (still not that much) as part of being rural and earthly. (See Amish women for example, happier than you btw druggie) you are all uneducated in history itself let alone the Word of the Lord, you all should not even have the right to live amongst the Faithful let alone vote.

[@iHawke]

@@colleennewholy9026 ok minority

[@gregolonious]

Man, these people better never go to Brazil during carnival. Their heads will explode.

[@pontifixmax]

Absolutely. Just ask George Santos.

[@vinnieg6161]

I love watching carnaval in brazil it's amazing

[@talk3194]

They go to Mardi Gras in New Orleans.

[@homosexualpanic]

Haha spot on!

[@radiationshepherd]

Or Mardi Gras...

[@CPFitzgerald]

The last point about Footloose is extra damning, since a component of drag IS dance. They DO want to ban dancing

[@planethopper335]

That's next, dresses must cover women's (mens) ankles.

[@notaperson9831]

The scariest thing about this is not the effect it will have on drag shows. It’s the fact that it will be used to police what clothing people are allowing to wear in public based on their perceived gender. That’s terrifying for trans and non gender conforming people everywhere.

[@sheogorath2657]

Nah nah only real problem is the ideology pushed onto mfs to reject their biological functions and embrace the machine

[@teru797]

Why do people need to twerk upside down in skimpy clothing in front of kids?

[@timmysvensson4902]

​@@teru797 not what he ment, but it could strike down on subcultures - hair metal - banned, metalheads - banned, punks - banned.. Youth subcultures of tommorow - banned from visiting public.

[@bonniepinney2884]

You nailed it. The truth is, people who want to implement Christian law want to control a whole lot more than what you wear.

[@friedrice4015]

@@teru797 did you even read the comment or are you just saying things

[@Paigerntz99]

Kills me how fast they jump on people playing dress up but not the hundreds of mass shoots that happen within the first few months and continue throughout the year. If they actually cared about people’s lives, about children’s lives, about children …. They would stop them from seeing their classmates killed in front of them and stop mass shootings by the hundreds, not others’ human rights.

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

my guy is dedicated his life to stop imaginary doctrination, i wonder has he ever asked a kid what they thought--id love that as a kid theyre so stylish

[@user-bb2vn8vz5x]

America used to be an awesome, more peaceful, healthy and wealthy country when it was a church going, God fearing country.

[@Tendies518]

I wouldn’t take my kids to a drag show, but I also wouldn’t take them to hooters, a bikini bar ect. It’s a parent’s responsibility. There are so many other important issues these people ignore like poverty and drug addiction in their state. This shouldn’t even be a thought with the Fentanyl/opioid crisis.

[@lifevest1]

I wouldn’t take them to a church where a bunch of dudes with little hair and glasses tell me how to parent.

[@firstlast8258]

Drugs are bad mkay

[@dam8087]

Culture wars are all right-wingers have to offer the country

[@J3R3MI6]

They want to mind control and program (groom) the children for their army. Also many are predators (not all) but many

[@T0asty-]

Oh you don't understand, these types don't want to parent, they want to blame everyone and everything else for their shortcomings.

[@questionablehistorian9335]

I'm nonbinary and live in Idaho. It's hard for me to even get a haircut. I want into a salon and stylist flat out said "we won't cut a woman's hair like a man". Another place asked me if I had my dad or husband's permission to cut my hair short. It's Hell here, seriously.

[@pex320]

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[@andreapate681]

I am so sorry you have to deal with such ignorant humans. 😢

[@user-pe8ez8mg3w]

Friend, move here to Oregon. We don't have that bs over here! 🥰

[@user-bb2vn8vz5x]

Repent and give your life to Jesus ❤.

[@questionablehistorian9335]

​@@user-bb2vn8vz5x 1 Samuel 16:7 New King James Version - "For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." Assuming that I haven't given my life to Jesus is actually an affront to the word of God. You are putting yourself in the seat of God by passing judgement on me in regards to my relationship with Christ. You should be ashamed.

[@zoranblackie5921]

Meanwhile in the UK, we are mourning the passing of a national treasure of broadcasting, Paul O'Grady, the epitome of mainstream who started out as Lily Savage, drag queen from the mean streets of Birkenhead, becoming both loved by the mainstream and helped numerous animal charities

[@mankytoes]

Our comedy has centred men in dresses for a very long time. I'm guessing Idaho would ban panto?

[@samjames5664]

lol ... oh no

[@ljt3084]

Paul o Grady was far more genuine even in a dress than a man who stands on a pulpit telling people his imaginary friend speaks to him..

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

(theyll ignore this)

[@UdumbaraMusic]

That's what I don't understand about the UK... We had transvestite/non-binary comedians, trans musicians, and even trans reality TV show contestants who ended up winning... And nobody made a big deal about any of it back then. Then the last four years it's apparently what's been destroying our country, according to some...

[@christynewynn6929]

The journalist wasn't laughing with you, Blaine. He was laughing at you, my guy.

[@larryfoster8820]

Blaine isn’t straight

[@SkylarKelly]

I can smell the mothballs on that dude’s clothes through my phone.

[@lamomahmood694]

Why do you think Uganda just made homosexuality illegal? You probably look at uganda and think to yourself they’re just African poor backwards people. That’s the racism and ignorance rooted in you. They’re actually very very intelligent people especially the president of Uganda himself he’s much smarter than both you and me. You ever think why they made this law? Just think about it. He’s a smart guy who made such a law. Why?

[@sunnyskye213]

Poor fellow.....🤣

[@bad444]

He clearly didn't get it😅

[@jennamclean1]

the interviewer laughing directly in his face was gold.

[@unsrescyldas9745]

On the day of Judgement it will be the reverse.

[@warm5678]

Yeh it shows that he was only there to mock any opinion different from his own

[@jamesguckenberger5692]

@@unsrescyldas9745 separate church and state

[@warm5678]

I don't appreciate mocking the preacher

[@maedesmond2461]

@@warm5678 The preacher said gay people have the right to heterosexual marriage, it's pretty hilarious

[@LunaDelTuna]

I was eleven years old the first time I saw a drag queen. I'll never forget it because it was when my mom took me to see Cher in concert for her (first) farewell tour. I asked my mom why those men were dressed like cats, and simply said because they can so why not. It was the most accepting feeling and every walk of life was in that arena: the catmen, grandmas wearing boas, straight couples, gay, everyone. It was the holiest experience of my life, and that's coming from a straight girl who was raised devout catholic. If you wanna see how hateful people can be, go through confirmation.

[@pex320]

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[@EnglishOrthodox]

Leviticus 20:13

[@eliesh3833]

@@EnglishOrthodox Why is a Christian citing Levitical law when, according to your theology, that no longer applies to you, let alone anybody?

[@gunmetal2445]

I am from Malaysia and I thought this type of things only happen on my side of the world. Its scary to see it so 'global'.

[@nicked_fenyx]

Apa khabar! My spouse is from Malaysia and now lives in the US with me. He's all too aware of the direction some of these things are heading. Scary times.

[@samjames5664]

Yep, transgenders are everywhere, sadly

[@Juniversal]

If these conservatives were as obsessed with preventing mass shootings as they are with preventing Ms. Doubtfire or Madea from reading books to kids then we might actually have a safer society.

[@peaceaintpeaceful]

God clearly said "thy shall f them kids, and sully thy name of god to get whatever thy want"

[@WhisperingEcho33]

It ain't Ms Doubtfire or Madea who is showing up though now is it?

[@autumnleaves1997]

I still don't get how people feel so threatened by the lgbtq+ community? Like they are the nicest and most accepting people you will ever meet.

[@josephsimmons9241]

​@@WhisperingEcho33who do think it is then, jeanette from holland?

[@josephsimmons9241]

​@@autumnleaves1997yeah, i know, right? Now trust your kids with a priest and see what happens

[@rippedtorn2310]

Says a whole lot about his own kinks if he sees drag as sexual .

[@whosdatboy122]

Ayyy I can’t even lie I don’t know about most of this stuff but even I know there’s no harm showing kids people dancing being happy

[@sstealthymax]

@@whosdatboy122 there is when they are dancing on poles in thin underwear

[@ferretman6790]

Drag is literally sexual.

[@ferretman6790]

@@whosdatboy122 look up the videos of these drag shows, PLEASE. You will see

[@whosdatboy122]

@@ferretman6790 bruh some of them are so bad what

[@captainmakai]

When he lost it and laughed in his face, so good 😂😂

[@AwokenEntertainment]

I wonder how people of the future will look back on these moments in history

[@bajabarracuda4634]

1700s and 1800s wow to think that anyone would believe that time was the best time in America is horrifying.

[@LaUltimaBodega]

only white men were free at the time!

[@theonlythingihavetosayis9333]

People are dumb

[@grmpEqweer]

Witch trials. Such fun.

[@lucia-di-lammermoor]

Literally EVERYTHING sucked more back then compared to now. I don't know how bigoted you have to be to even think that...

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Is that when Biden saw those men kissing?

[@anxiouscucumber9]

"They're trying to build this world where only people like them are allowed to exist" gives me chills.. such an accurate summation. And Blaine kinda creeps me out, poor dear's so deep in the closet he's living in Narnia but looks like he's repressing some serious rage there too.. yikes

[@sunnyskye213]

.....The FRAMA of it all!!!😂

[@yourealittlebitfat4344]

how dare you not wanting your kids to be sexualized!

[@123ssbrolly]

​@@yourealittlebitfat4344 that's not what's happening. They screech it and never prove it. Then they use it to justify their sweeping bans and bigotry.

[@PROLYFGUY-ld9uu]

Trans are disgusting right

[@lorenfulghum2393]

that's called paranoia

[@mosiahmendoza6846]

Bro smiled and said the 1800 were a good time.

[@Rosspal14]

I love how these people feel fine casually qualifying any secular person as evil. Those be fighting words bro, I don't care if you say them through polished teeth

[@georgeanthony3800]

imagine if these people used their time to fight the real problems in society like income inequality, lack of access to healthcare, better education system. my god.

[@YouTubeDeletesComments]

This ain't a real problem? Who are you referring to as "these people"?

[@yourealittlebitfat4344]

how dare you not wanting your kids to be sexualized!

[@debmcgerrigle3477]

@@yourealittlebitfat4344read the bible, now that is a sexualized book.

[@jaysaini955]

Bruh you whack dude, we do, its called fraud

[@paulbauer6353]

They do. Religious people like them are doing the volontiere Work and and charity.

[@cannkotlarz621]

Drag shows where anyone under 18 is present should be prosecutable for parent and drag person. 10 yr minimum no parole. In every state. We MUST protect our children ftom adult events and decisions they cant make as children.

[@CremeBrulee543]

Omg I love when the interviewer just laughs at the guy. Wild. Drag is a beautiful art form!

[@MyName-cw4yr]

But not appropriate for children

[@sleepyboi188]

​@@MyName-cw4yrArt is for all

[@MyName-cw4yr]

@@sleepyboi188 you don't think context and content are important?

[@sleepyboi188]

@@MyName-cw4yr People study all sorts of arts at a young age with many different meanings. What is wrong with showing this part of art? Many think they are showing the children explicit performances. Drag has been around for centuries and isn't only for explicit performances. Drag was involved with many things you know well today and has influenced many. Ursula you see from the little mermaid is just one of many examples. You think they'd show the children explicit performances? No drag is more than that.

[@mr.joshua204]

..its a perversion

[@kenlandon6130]

1:50 The same law that prescribes the death penalty for eating shellfish and wearing clothes made of two different fabrics or using crop rotation but allows slavery? That is the "perfect reflection of morality?"

[@jdogdarkness]

Logic, ethics, or brain not required. Lol But only lol so I don't go insane

[@kenlandon6130]

@@jdogdarkness true

[@kenlandon6130]

@@jdogdarkness it's what happens when one lives in an extremist religious bubble their entire lives. absolute absurdities feel second nature

[@mayguardian1]

like i don’t remember a commandment against drag show story time lol

[@jdogdarkness]

@alexmaynard1624 as always with these people, they disobey the written parts, and live by the ad-libbed parts. Smh. So exhausting.

[@vullanforcechoke]

I went to a drag show with some friends a little while back. It’s basically just guys in drag singing and dancing (well lip syncing but you get the idea). It’s a fucking concert. It’s ridiculous that people are trying to outlaw what is basically a type of concert

[@NJames-dh6kz]

You would have to be extremely sheltered and sensitive to find drag shows offensive.

[@vinnieg6161]

@@NJames-dh6kz if you are sheltered and sensitive you still can't be offended by drag shows. They've got nothing to do with you. These people are just filled with biblical lies and hatred.

[@gadaffi1000]

They're just projecting like so many of these fascists. They insist on displaying their insecurities and ignorance for the rest of the civilised world to see. So sad. America used to be ok. I lived there for 12 years but would never go there again-until of course these monstrous maga's are all re-buried in their trailers.

[@gadaffi1000]

@@vinnieg6161 Well said. Their ignorance and fear is all they have and the bible can be read to support all of their nonsense. PPure ignorance. That and a lot of inbreeding of course.

[@SamP-by7iv]

its insane that theres a chunk of people trying to ban literal stage performers

[@comicnerd420]

He had a hardy ass laugh at 3:57 😂

[@royalbandit8106]

This is what pure evil looks like.

[@catlvr-kg9ol]

That guy definitely gives off closeted vibes

[@brybryguy6314]

Ya he definitely sucking someone in a regular, they all do! Stright until some dude pulls down their pants in frount of them and yea right away they are face down and butt up in a second!

[@ignaciob]

That and also full metal jacket vibes (the one that shoots himself)

[@tylere.8436]

Projection?

[@catlvr-kg9ol]

@@tylere.8436 I’m out lmao

[@christiana5552]

They need to put this much energy in the housing crisis, homelessness and drug addiction epidemic. Drag Shows have never hurt anyone 🙄

[@Islandswamp]

Yeah it’s a completely manufactured outrage. Drag Queen story hour isn’t a sexual thing at all.

[@KarlSnarks]

Drag shows have hurt the feelings of religious snowflakes tho ;)

[@kanedNunable]

part of the right wing culture war.

[@helpmegetto1k4channelnotab78]

crazy people down here about to make up why drag shows hurt people (they dont even know what a drag show is they just now guys wear girl clothes.)

[@highlife9841]

@@Islandswamp bro seek Jesus Christ time is up

[@Van420Dal]

Imagine looking at whatever state you are in charge of developing legislation for and saying to yourself that one of the most pressing issues and what we should be spending time and money focusing on is whether or not people under a certain age can go to drag shows... drag shows are that are not sexual in nature. I don't think you have a whole bunch of kids lining up to go to these shows but what I think this does is it furthers demonization of a group of people for literal to no reason

[@alisonleigh3821]

"God's law is the perfect reflection of morality" should be the scariest quote for citizens. "God's law" includes stoning and allows slavery... everyone's interpretation is different but they're passing bills on this threshold. This is so scary

[@reallysomebody]

"Dear God, thank you for giving me the strength to hate others and a legislature to oppress them "

[@LauraWolf666]

Dear God. Thank you for blessing my family abundantly. Giving us money a bed a shower. For that I'm grateful I will strive to follow your words because of the blessing THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME!! MY HEART CAN NOT BE GREATFUL ENOUGH TO THE LORD OF HOST

[@reallysomebody]

@@LauraWolf666 because everything is always about you 🙄

[@sassysaint3096]

👏👏👏 Nail it, Really Somebody!

[@BlackMadonna777]

Not being able to twerk in front of kids while wearing scant clothing is oppression?

[@jscott6]

@@BlackMadonna777 Laws derived from a 2000 year old fairy tale book is the definition of oppression.

[@Acclamatar]

I love how the interviewer laughed in his face. 😆😆😆

[@murielobrist2795]

10/10

[@roseoverdose6451]

yes very professional and unbiased. you can tell he didn't have an agenda. 👌 i think the guest handled the disrespect well and came out of the interview as the better person.

[@mattmayo3539]

It’d be hard for me not to just punch him the face and beat the hell out of him.

[@404_profile_not_found]

@@roseoverdose6451 If he came out a better person, he'd realise that he's being hypocritical. Instead he doubled down on his nonsense of "freedom through oppression"

[@chukwudiilozue9171]

@@roseoverdose6451 That was such an incredibly stupid point. No sane person can be that unbiased to take that seriously.

[@haileyminger706]

i’m so sick of all this why can’t we just all live with our differences

[@spidersinmykeyboard6367]

Some of us can. The Nazis can't. The theocrats can't. The authoritarians more broadly cannot live and let live. They think they have the truth. You not living their truth makes it obvious they don't. They can't handle that.

[@bobross8585]

Because religion compels you to force everyone around you to be like you or die.

[@binghamguevara6814]

Because “LGBTQI+100SEXUALORIENTATIONS+100GENDERIDENTITIES+MORE+MORE” will divide humanity into species. Men and women aren’t meant to be together on this earth.

[@redrummurder2066]

i expect to see news headlines in 2042 like this 'This just in! Conservatives ban the word 'freedom', say they believe it's an unfair vocabulary term to those who share different political beliefs'

[@jbnj11]

I had a relative many many years ago who was furious about gay marriage being legalized, abt 2 years ago I asked him if he still felt that way and he said “you know what? I was wrong on that one I don’t see any problem with it” fast forward to now and he’s back on the lgbt hate claiming all drag shows are pornographic, having never seen one but the idea of a man in female clothes is just too extreme.

[@kenlandon6130]

maybe he'll come around in 20 years.

[@jazzyg530]

@@kenlandon6130 or maybe he'll come out

[@sonsauvage]

Rhetoric can be very effective, especially when you have little to no contact with those you denigrate

[@eclipses3368]

@@jazzyg530 lmao

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

It sucks to have relatives who... For the lack of a better word are just bots. Those rubes out in Kentucky, Texas, wherever are the most gullible people on the planet, and always have been, and have a long tradition of upholding this awful bullshit.

[@sweetness371]

"Biblical Law" in the "Land of the Free"? Give me a break. No one's forcing you to bring your children to drag shows.

[@theone9705]

Persuading kids to go via social media is basically forcing them

[@MrBobbo18]

@@theone9705 persuade and force are basically the same? You can’t change the meaning of words. I persuaded you into trying cauliflower…… I forced you to try cauliflower! BIG difference kiddo

[@cooldrop02]

​@@theone9705 nonsense logic. " Showing kids adverts for TMNT basically forces them to become fans". This is what you sound like.

[@grmpEqweer]

​@@theone9705 I don't think there's much in the way of public transportation in Idaho, _kids often can't even get somewhere without the parents driving them._ 🤨

[@grmpEqweer]

​@@theone9705 Also, advertising equals force, now?

[@Alyssa-qn7ir]

8:53 in... The most hilarious outburst of laughter I've ever seen!😂😂😂

[@Darkreaper01]

Drag shows are a blast to go to if your a cis or LGBT individual. Its feels like the folks against it so much in the southern states saw 80's/90's underdog movies and identified with villians/opposition as the life choice.

[@ticketyblue3080]

It's so pathetic that this country fights against the wrong things while the world crumbles in real time.

[@spicychad55]

USA has always been controlled by the rich and corporate America. The attacks on LGBT are just distractions, but of course they'll be targeted again by white supremacists and nationalists. The rich wants everyone to forget how racist and degenerate US politics were in 19th century America when everyone except ethnic English people were discriminated against and deemed. The GOP's controlled by the rich to eventually drive us back to that degenerate time, bring back slavery legally in America (it never died in practice).

[@gavinvolk4428]

you are pathetic

[@Allen667sjja]

Politicians like to use petty social issues (trans bathrooms for example) to distract the public from actual important issues.

[@00SamG]

Ukraine

[@sunnyskye213]

Morales are worth stepping up for; 0 tolerance, of this crap [no pun intended]....Sexuality & ARTS do NOT GO TOGETHER....Except Yourself & people in the world shall Except You....KEEP 'PRIVATE, MATTERS P-R-I-V-A-T-E....Drawing Attenteon to yourself is SENSELESS......

[@Franklin0222]

This entire interview my jaw is on the floor… like religious people really don’t hear themselves… insane

[@shirayuri4345]

Lmao and you are not dropping your jaw by seeing mentally ill men dressing up all perverted? Sickening.

[@AngelicoCiudad]

For having common sense? Lol.

[@sassysaint3096]

​@@AngelicoCiudad You think religion is common sense?

[@Franklin0222]

@@AngelicoCiudad common sense? Is not a religion. What he is preaching is a direct message from his religious beliefs

[@AngelicoCiudad]

@@sassysaint3096 More common sense compared to woke folks with their 72+ genders and delusional "trap in the wrong body" logic.

[@rolandserna7805]

I really think this is an issue that needs middle ground. I don’t want children exposed to drag queens at a young age, but I also don’t want a country with no separation between church and state

[@r-platt]

Nobody should be able to dictate where you decide your children may go and whom they may see. Yet you want to dictate to others where their children may go and whom they may see? I despise transvestites because of how they were portrayed when I grew up. But I would never take anything from them for my comfort.

[@colleenclement474]

Whose church? There ain't one religion everyone has to be.

[@rolandserna7805]

@@colleenclement474 Christianity

[@r-platt]

@@colleenclement474 He wants to control where parents can take their children. At the same time he does not want the extreme right from controlling where parents can take their children. This is the same line of thinking that allows conservative women to get an abortion because their abortion is moral. Everyone else has abortions for immoral reasons.

[@gabeavelar]

Oh the hardy laugh at 8:53 is priceless! Thank you my reporter. Thank you

[@mortenle]

He says drag is dangerous for children because there is "a wealth of scientific and academic literature that demonstrates the harm done to children by sexual conduct," but only because he personally equates drag with sexual conduct which none of the "literature" says nothing about. He knows this, too. Outrageous. BTW Children can't get into most drag shows. This is a dangerous distraction from their real agenda--power, money, and a world like The Handmaid's Tale or The Scarlet Letter.

[@sunnyskye213]

Don't Drag Me Down....

[@adambednarek2007]

The only real life place/country you should be comparing to the Handmaid’s Tale is Poland. End of story

[@sunnyskye213]

@@adambednarek2007 LOL

[@jackieboy7577]

Drag shows are almost always tied with sexual activities. It’s beyond inappropriate for children to be present for theses.

[@YouTubeDeletesComments]

How can they get into ANY Dreg show?

[@Noms_Chompsky]

Children shouldn't be exposed to all the sex and violence in the Bible

[@NuclearCow100]

So we take them to a drag show where grown men wear makeup and women's clothing in a hypersexual environment. Where people mask their insecurities with makeup and flamboyance instead of dealing with reality? Haha your kids are fucked 😂

[@StandOnGuard4Thee]

Good point

[@iloveplayingpr]

"We shall show them our peaceful ways... BY FORCE!"

[@vanessamonster5038]

He thinks drag shows are sexual in nature, because he finds them sexually stimulating😊

[@catcat2607]

Say it’s not targeting LGBT people and they’re trying to protect children but child pageants are nowhere near the chopping block. Sure.

[@KKISCRAZYFUL]

Child Pageants literally sexualize children! They are what is actually harmful.

[@karllager2214]

You'd agree that some adult activities aren't appropriate for children?

[@dam8087]

@@karllager2214 yeah, attending religious cults and being raped by the leaders

[@Wasserkaktus]

​@Billy Buckman No they aren't even remotely in the same category. Child pageants have massively pedophilic undertones, while drag shows have a lot of their sexuality muted.

[@Wasserkaktus]

@Billy Buckman Yes, I know, I agree with you.

[@dain6250]

The only way to stop a bad guy in drag is with a good guy in drag

[@greekboi79]

#facts

[@EveryTimeV2]

I'd watch it.

[@juanl7766]

😂🤣

[@700K-pp9wm]

.45

[@teehee4096]

What does that mean?

[@G-A-Jaxon]

8:48 Thank you for laughing in his face!

[@pinballwizard2587]

does anyone how how i would cite this in APA format?

[@livsanders7005]

It’s the way he laughed directly to his face

[@jtozuna]

I noticed 90% of his audience in the room was 60 yrs old or older.

[@6ixConfessions]

And white.

[@clutchtucker]

@@6ixConfessions That doesn't matter, who cares if their white. There's blacks and Asians and Mexicans who don't want drags. Stop being a moron, and the media lays these groups as nationalist and nationalist isn't even bad it means you care about your nation more then other country's

[@samuelfranklin9112]

Yes exactly, they're retired and have nothing better to do than look at misinformation on facebook. My uncle is one of them and he acts like a spoiled brat.

[@clutchtucker]

@@samuelfranklin9112 Yeah thats your uncles problem not theirs

[@DiscretionwithReason]

And, trumplodyte

[@Britbec]

If these people think there were no female impersonators in the US in the 1800’s….they need to widen their frame of reference!

[@Matt-fl8uy]

Listening to "wouldn't we want to model our civil laws after his [God's]" makes me wonder if they are ready to outlaw divorce and punish cheaters with stoning. Like if you're going down that path, know that you're going to be on the receiving end as well.

[@alexwyatt2911]

Precisely. I don’t see any of them foaming at the mouth to legally prohibit divorce. They’re also not doing anything to stop child marriage, which is legal in 43 US states. But they’re “so worried” about keeping kids safe…

[@amandawebster7244]

They don’t really do that much deep thinking when others do it for them. I was raised evangelical. It was never me. I don’t believe in any of it. Never really have. There are sweet and tolerant people there but they are shamed and abused into silence. The rest just keep growing into extremism. It’s been scary for a long time and keeps getting scarier.

[@Pseudochick01]

If you don’t like drag show…, JUST DON’T GO! LIVE AND LET LIVE…

[@anton1713]

True, drag isn't the problem but the narcissist parents who want to show it to their children for their egotistical reasons. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do so but when you see these really young children covered in rainbow flags you should be able to tell that there might be something wrong with the parents. If this guy bans drag shows for children then that doesn't fix the issue of narcissist parents and misguided institutions. You get what I mean?

[@spicychad55]

@@anton1713 Who's gonna change these problematic parents? No one! US society has always pretended to "care" about others. It's always pretend. The ban on drag shows is the same as drug prohibition-- it's not about children or societal health... it's about power and control, and of course money.

[@caramazzola2399]

​@@anton1713 how dare the children... Wear rainbows?

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Why don't you say that about religious indoctrination?

[@anton1713]

@@caramazzola2399 That's not what I mean :) More like: How dare the parents want their child to be trans. I'm talking about abusive, narcissist parents. You think these are all angels bringing their kids to such an event? It's the kind of parents who will let the child tell them their gender. They're sick narcissists or ridiculously misguided.

[@poindextertunes]

When he said “@nal g@ngb@ng” I lost it 😂 this guy is good. He also asked a guy who wanted to ban a book, if the book would make his kid want to “drink cxm” and the guy goes “I don’t have kids..😐” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Zero books have been banned though.

[@Thowe]

@@imperialmotoring3789 false

[@andrewfalconer8599]

We can just imagine that dude’s Pornhub history.

[@unsrescyldas9745]

What is funny about that?

[@luns486]

Wouldn’t be even remotely surprised if he’s actively repressing his own same sex attractions.

[@pltopper771]

it feels very insulting to me when there are people who think there is something other than male or female , and no it's not transphobia or anything like that

[@nkred5162]

That laugh and whaaa was the highlight

[@jamesalafayette8255]

The US is neither a theocracy nor needing to become one. The Christians who love God don’t need the consequences of secular law to force them to do so.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Exactly. Same goes for the LGBTQUIA religion.

[@dam8087]

@@imperialmotoring3789 its not a religion, stop pushing such absurd lies

[@shirayuri4345]

​@@dam8087 The LGBTV community is a cult and a religion at this point. If you reject them they get violent.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

@@dam8087 It's a belief system that is not based in science, has holidays and leaders. It's definitely a religion. LGBTQUIA has no place in public (government) schools.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

@@dam8087 Boys cannot become girls, speaking of absurd lies.

[@holy1x]

Why aren't they fighting this hard to ban porn or even push for age restrictions? that has true significant side effects especially when the CHILDREN are able to access it FOR FREE.

[@chasemartin4450]

Remember people, Idaho has strong protections for the Second Amendment. If you ask me, it's time to fire up the 3D printers, head to the gun store, and make it *very* clear that should this moral panic turn violent, we have the means to defend ourselves.

[@brittanywalker6460]

You go far enough left, you get your guns back...

[@chasemartin4450]

@@brittanywalker6460 Very true. Democrats hate the Second Amendment, true leftists understand why it keeps all of us safe.

[@battlehenge4]

This is why our founding fathers stressed the separation of church and state.

[@diazjose562]

Yeah... they stressed it so much that all of our dollars we use everyday say "In God We trust"

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

​​@@diazjose562 "In God We Trust" wasn't added until the mid-late 1800s. Try again.

[@andrewortiz5797]

​@@diazjose562 MAGA christianity is unscriptual!! Jests however did say to give to caesar what is Caesars and give to God what Is God's and Romans 13:1 Commands Christian's to submit to and obey the government and the leaders for they have been established by God!! Jesus and The Apostles were not republicans or democrats or patriots or any such false identity. They were too focused on The Great Commission and didn't involve themselves with the worlds affair's and politics. Maga christians are deceived and don't read their own Bible!! If they had read The Bible, they wouldn't have listened to Trump's false prophets. False prophets.... All of them!! And if your church or pastor preaches MAGA and politics, irs best you leave that church!!

[@andrewortiz5797]

Perry yes!! Jesus even said to give to caesar what is Caesars and give to God what Is God's. Those maga christians are false christian's..

[@battlehenge4]

@@diazjose562 Trust does not mean submit. You trust someone, a friend for example, to have your back not to force a collar, a muzzle, or blinders on you. Revisit the gritty version of American history and try to tell me that religious persecution wasn’t one of the reasons the colonists left.

[@D-Moneyz]

That laugh was a mix of incredulity and disbelief that it's actually taking place in our nation.

[@iizregret]

Drag is one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen. The downfall of our society is right here in front of us. People with mental illness that actually need help instead of coddling and pushing this garbage

[@Kevorama0205]

What is so disgusting about drag?

[@iizregret]

@@Kevorama0205 fat ugly men dressing up as women and vice versa. What’s the appeal? I don’t agree with the religious aspect of the bills but the last thing our country needs is more of these freakshows, especially for children

[@AtheoGay]

We have a Constitution in a secular country that supercedes "god's law"

[@Kbarboza94]

The people in that room haven’t changed or grown in decades and it shows.

[@thekingdomoftheholysun]

Why do Americans fight over this, instead of whether everyone deserves health care?

[@wejeecee]

If they moved all the efforts they put into this kind of stuff and abortion they would have a national health service, not be wrecking the environment and have a properly functioning government.

[@rhet1016]

Plenty of Americans would rather fight for health care. But conservatives keep drumming it up to prevent people's lives from improving.

[@johnb7046]

Propaganda keeps the masses separated and hating each other instead of coming together for common good.

[@ezekielrayfield1512]

because it innapriote for kids to go to drag queen shows that why we fight over this. do you think kids should be allowed to go to drag queen shows if not then you should be fine with a law like this.

[@iBOT-R3]

It’s a distraction from the real issues that need to be fixed.

[@jumpstart55million]

7:22….Dad hit it on the head. That is the core agenda of the entire conservative movement.

[@Thanatology101]

Let's pretend that there was some degree of explicit or age inappropriate material in drag shows. The fact that these people don't want to simply adjust this hypothetical material but instead want a blanket ban reveals it isn't about age inappropriate material. It's a religious objection to the entire work. They see it as indoctrination. This is particularly interesting because they would not see the same problems with bringing children to church at ages where they are too young to critically evaluate the material--in essence, committing the very act of indoctrination they worry themselves with. It isn't about indoctrination or waiting until kids gain the faculty to make their own decisions. They explicit want a stranglehold on the narrative to inculcate children to be like them. Religion *cannot* be about freedom because it is entirely predicated on accepting a rigid set of prescribed beliefs and doctrines. They want thought factories that churn out little homogenous religious zealot robots that reinforce their power structures. Anything that is not inline with that is the enemy to them, and the fact they can't see any gradation is evidence positive.

[@TarsalMonkeyboy]

i love how sharp-witted, direct, challenging and honest this interviewer and their questions were, especially here 8:17. great work Vegas Tenold!

[@robkoper841]

Anyone who thinks that the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries in America were an 'unparalleled time of freedom' doesn't need to have any influence on legislation. Anywhere.

[@emilywilkerson3684]

They let the person being interviewed wiggle out of the answers, but I get it. They have to allow that to even get the interview in the first place. It definitely pushed the limits of what these people will allow you to ask and interview them about. But the true challenging questions and a press for actual follow up responses was missing. Again, I'm not blaming the interviewer here.

[@Wasserkaktus]

The Birdcage (American Remake) was literally my favorite movie in my pre-teen/teen years. To me, it depicted a family that was extremely loving, hilarious and creative, and was such a stark contrast to the Conservative family their son tried to wed into. It had nothing to do with homosexuality to me: Clearly Armand and Albert had NO intention of making their Son gay.

[@imperialmotoring3789]

"Song Of The South" was my favorite!

[@ManekinPeace]

@george You’re right. Birdcage is a great comedy that in its core shows the creativity behind drag shows. Good flick

[@imperialmotoring3789]

@@ManekinPeace I find Blackface minstrel shows to be one of the most creative of the performing arts. Mocking women not so much.

[@dannygreen5477]

Yea but that's not today's trans community also it was a movie and not real life...

[@Wasserkaktus]

@@dannygreen5477 Literally no one in the Birdcage is trans.

[@valleytruthers3827]

This WHOLE THING REMINDS ME OF THAT MOVIE "TOO WONG FOO"

[@roccoduke1269]

They are also saying straight sex stuff shouldn't be done in front of kids. That's like a stripper doing a show for kids.......THEY ARE AGAINST THAT ALSO

[@r-platt]

Yet they say NOTHING about child beauty pageants. They say NOTHING about women wearing the tiniest outfits at car and gun shows or on beaches. They tell us that sexualized activities are wrong... but THEY are the ones making everything about sex. A man wearing a full dress and wearing makeup may not be pretty but neither it is sexual.

[@stygianphantasm8761]

I really do hope vice gets their financial situation taken care of because I don't want them to go away

[@zxasdfx]

Then donate, you cowards!

[@supreme5580]

What situation?

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

​@@zxasdfx It sucks to do actual populist journalism because the general populace doesn't have much money to spare. Righteous journalism isn't profitable. Shilling out for billionaires, though? They'll fund your work for decades with their pocket change.

[@honeybunch5765]

​@@zxasdfx do you work or live with your parents?

[@tylermichaudweb]

You do all realize that Vice is a multi-billion dollar media company with founders who also have net worth's in the billions of dollars, correct?

[@SquizzMe]

Drag has been around for decades and its practice was basically untouched, until very recently. What's changed?

[@drewboo1857]

@Squ1 RuPauls Drage Race. Media attention and the rise of drag. I personally love drag and think it adds a new flair to culture. At the same time, there are drag performers I wouldn't want my kids to see, based upon their shows. The same can be said for comedians and actors or public figures. It really depends on what I want my child to see and understand, and that responsibility rests with me in making decisions for my child temporarily until they grow up. There are some things my child will see and unsee, and as a parent, I have to roll through the punches and explain it to them. There are some drag race performers who do reading for kids - that doesn't affect me and is up to the parent(s) to decide. What I do not agree with is pushing your beliefs/religion on to someone else because you circumnavigate God's will to freedom of choice. We all have a choice. If you want to change gender, we have the medical resources available to you. Do you want to murder someone? We have an ACE hardware with shovels and bags of lime for you in the back. 😂

[@DoubleGoon]

Politicians embracing bigotry to get elected.

[@6ixConfessions]

Drag has been around for millenia.

[@BlackMadonna777]

What changed? Their clear infatuation with involving children.

[@sassysaint3096]

The republican party needs a fresher platform, their old fear mongering platform isn't cutting it anymore.

[@loobly]

I'm so tired of being trans in idaho. I just want to live man. Coeur d'Alene has never felt less safe

[@thelemon5069]

Feel ya sibling

[@janycebrown4071]

Politics, and religion should NEVER mix!

[@adamwright4135]

If protecting children was the real priority, they'd be focusing on where the real child abuse is happening: all around them in their own Churches, by priests and pastors. when was the last time a drag queen was accused of child abuse? imagine being so concerned by people playing dress up ... it's just bigotry and hate, pure and simple

[@tylere.8436]

You are conflating certain Catholic problems to all of Christendom.

[@juanperez4508]

The government official is definitely on Grindr

[@helenapappas7891]

These people don't realize how much the world is cringing at them.

[@kellygarland63]

Guess it hasn’t occurred to them that we all are in drag in some sort or manner.

[@sonsauvage]

It’s too nebulous of an idea on top of just generally being morally wrong…any sort of legislation around this would be so vague that it would be up to the interpretation of whoever…which could create a problem for society, greater than whatever problems drag is perceived to represent or create. It’s a precedent that just cannot be allowed to be set. It really does hurt to say it, but America has regressed socially to a very significant degree in the past seven years.

[@kreed3494]

Men are going to get arrested for having their nails painted in public

[@alexwyatt2911]

This kind of legislation intentionally uses broad, vague language. Legislators do the same thing with abortion bans. They want to scare people badly enough that organizations and people are too worried to go anywhere near the topic. Their hope is that venues will no longer host any drag show because they’re too afraid of the liability. Hospitals in Idaho have stopped offering ob/gyn services because abortion bans got too extreme and their facilities and providers were at too much risk. Conservatives are constantly looking to instill fear; it’s what they do.

[@SonofMarZ]

I love when people say that we should “go back to this” and “return to this” idk how much history y’all read but we live in comparably the best age in time to be alive.. why live in the past

[@thax321]

I was thinking the same when I noticed a guy wearin a cap saying 'Make Idaho great again'... whats with the again? Was it ever great? 😅 Must have missed that chapted in my my extended collection of history books.

[@lamomahmood694]

I could easily sit here and argue why sexualising 5 year old children isn’t ok. But I don’t think I’ll get through to you. If you knew a bit about history … you’d know what happened during nazi germany and how easy brainwashing of a society is.

[@debmcgerrigle3477]

I would think there are a lot of women, First Nations, black, brown or Asian peoples would love it if society went back to the 1700s.

[@lanayhall4641]

@@debmcgerrigle3477 if we went back to the 1700s in America I’d be a slave wtf just learn at least a little history love😂😂

[@lanayhall4641]

@@debmcgerrigle3477 also those First Nations people you speak of were being murdered and displaced

[@bigpaul4450]

How many people have ended up traumatised, depressed, suicidal, self=medicated because of a drag show? None i bet. How many people have dealt with shame, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts or actions or slipped into drug and alcohol abuse because the faith imposed on them conflicts with how they feel.... millions

[@Atlas-pn6jv]

OK so in Idaho pregnant women have to stay inside, correct? Because that's like... the ULTIMATE show of sexuality. I can't think of something more sexual. It literally is the point of sex.

[@vicentebickel6099]

Bro busted out laughing, couldn’t hold it in 😂😂😂😂

[@spicychad55]

"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross!" - Unknown

[@208SledHead]

lmao

[@RTMonitor]

I would not be free if I am autistic and trans. Not every autistic person are trans, and not all trans are autistic.

[@nigelvestrand4252]

Sounds like they would repeal child labor laws and monopoly laws

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

They’re always about liberty to practice your beliefs in the public, maybe they should try doing the same for everyone around them?

[@horizonblack]

They aren't though. They have never been about liberty, only conformity. The two ideas are exclusive of each other.

[@AtomicSymphonic]

Conformity isn’t a “bad” thing. It depends on which type of community you live in.

[@horizonblack]

@@AtomicSymphonic Conformity is fine as a personal choice. Forced conformity is not.

[@merlchipeta]

It's because everyone else's beliefs are wrong and Christianity is the only way to save us all. The audacity of christians I swear.

[@thelemon5069]

​@@AtomicSymphonic I can't think of a time when conformity is good

[@joeb134]

I don't get drag. Tbh it makes me cringe sometimes, but all this hate towards them is just plain wrong. All the bills, the labeling them as pedophiles is wrong. No matter how you chose to look at it. I am Christian but I understand that Biblical law cannot be forced. Jesus made that pretty clear. It is a choice. I am sick of these people using my faith to push hate. “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind…the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." What these people preach is completely antithetical to the faith.

[@menomisespeanut]

There’s no love like Christian love. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@lifevest1]

If there is mention of drag show I will refuse to go within 100 feet of it. They creep me the F out. However, I also say the same for churches. The idea of banning drag seems like way more work than it’s worth.

[@smurxxx0910]

So, no Tyler Perry or big Mama's house?

[@Bestwick1983]

I too have no real issue with the concept of drag performances, but riddle me this...why are they so adament all of sudden to perform to/be involved with children? Surely that should set off some alarm bells. At worst it's an agenda aimed at grooming, at best they are using children as part of a culture war. I say leave them out entirely. Let kids be kids.

[@Saffron831]

@@menomisespeanut There's no hate like Christian love.*

[@davidberkowitz3363]

Not a single smile in the audience. Should tell you all you need to know.

[@kford9271]

The journalist laughing in the dude's face when he was talking about gays being married was hilarious.

[@kaleidoscope_pie]

Methinks the person who is trying to take Idaho back into the dark ages with these laws might be repressing something within himself.

[@enntheelementale7461]

He sees himself in the other and he hates it

[@FactStorm]

When I first heard him speak, he's a closeted bear. Just listen to his voice lol

[@nintendo1709]

I really want to ask the guy being interviewed why I as a gay man, if I had to get married, would have to marry a woman? Why would I put anyone woman in that scenario? People should be loved and cared for in a marriage and I wouldn’t be able to provide that to someone of the opposite sex because I’m not emotionally or physically attracted to women. It’s not fair to me and it’s CERTAINLY not fair to her.

[@gadaffi1000]

Yes, the interviewer wasn't great. The fat 'christian' closet queen should have been called out more for his disgusting 'moral' stance.

[@nicked_fenyx]

I'm not a Christian, but having been raised that way (and at one point, being a single college class away from earning ministerial credentials when I walked away from all of that) I can tell you his answer: celibacy and the single life. The Christian answer to gay people who cannot "fix" their "urges" is for them to choose to remain celibate and unmarried. It's literally what churches tell gay people these days. So in this guy's America, you wouldn't be forced to marry someone of the opposite sex, or to put a woman in the position of an unhappy marriage. You'd just have to stay single. It's f'ed up.

[@splooie02]

Because God said so. That's their answer for everything.

[@emmajones8590]

It used to be quite common in the past, for gay men to marry hetero women. Or lesbians to marry hetero men. Such marriages were rarely happy for either partner.

[@gondorianslayer4250]

im not dating you.