The Evolution of Gabbie Hanna and Her Content.

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[@heyhello6624]

Do I care about Gabbie? No Will I listen to smokey talking about her? Absolutely

[@marle7]

Mood

[@Isabella-lf9yl]

When you see she posted a video 2 days ago 👀

[@ecb3828]

Oliver's Really Gay YESSSS I hadn’t seen it when she originally posted, it popped up and I was whaaaa yay!!! Lol

[@samsam-kn6fo]

Fr

[@TheOneTheyCallTim]

same

[@ashareeuniquee]

She honestly had one of the weirdest internet careers because she’s been in so many scandals yet still had fans but was kinda irrelevant but yet she was so popular. It was kinda like she was on her own side of the internet

[@amandalopes3048]

I kind of believe that that happens with youtubers with lots of subscribers. If you build a big audience for a while and after establishing them you start to get in scandal after scandal, your career won't be shattered, because you build a huge audience of loyal fans even tho you're not really a trending topic anymore. I think that we can put Trisha Paytas and Jeremiah Starfish as examples. Problematic people with a huge and loyal audience.

[@hexes5122]

I feel like every KZbinr has the die-hard stans that would literally try to make excuses for them even if they murdered someone for content. Look at Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson. And if you remember DaddyO5 who actually abused his children for content to the point where CPS removed them from his home, well he STILL had people defending him even after the fact and i think he just moved his fanbase to twitch.

[@sadboistorm2588]

abigail flores i don’t really think trisha has a huge loyal audience tbh. people watch her for the meme-ability if that makes sense. her feedback is usually overwhelmingly negative.

[@bitchwormpuddin1499]

OP was just mentioning how her whole career was just.... contradicting itself in a way

[@mrdad-zl9zl]

@@sadboistorm2588 haha no she has a small loyal fan base though

[@oliviahanchuk5536]

Let’s not forget when she “wrote” the poetry book full of other people’s tweets and poetry for a milk and honey ripoff

[@kiwihue]

i thought she had nothing to do w that

[@starfiresreign]

Hold on youre telling me that low effort garbage WAS STOLEN

[@therealjim]

funny how when it came out no one was hypercritical and they loved it but now theyre comparing her first published body of work to very experienced poets.

[@starfiresreign]

@@therealjim i remember when her first book came out and when she announced making it showed her sketches i was like oh thats really cool and I assumed it was gonna be really good like a year or more later I read some of the poems and my opinion changed alot.

[@therealjim]

@@starfiresreign then why has the only criticism come after her scandals. if the book is really that bad, people back then would have said something.

[@isanalim5938]

Girl this is the first Gabbie video I feel isn’t unnecessarily mean and overly critical. You’re very matter of fact and unbiased and you don’t bring women down on their appearance. Love to see it, subbed

[@Jill-ed7ev]

I also really liked Drew Gooden's review of her poetry book. I have never really been interested in Gabbie, so I just knew people found it terrible without bothering to read it myself. Drew is the first person I have ever heard say something positive about it. Not that he found it a good book, but he does say that it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, that it's mostly very rushed and that she has potential to write something good, if only she'd actually try. Very refreshing to see someone take a stance more nuanced than "book bad, Gabbie suck", even if it still isn't overtly positive.

[@BeanieBabyXx]

I don't like Gabbie but people kinda nitpicked with her music. Admittedly, I don't think her songs are that bad and she has gotten better at singing (the problem is that she screams too much in her songs)

[@jos2074]

@bloodshot tears how is she a bad person?

[@elizabethb4168]

Rachel Oates has made really good videos on her poetry, she doesn't hate on her or anything, she just takes a very honest approach to reviewing her poetry and gives constructive criticism of her work

[@disaceter1130]

@@jos2074 She promoted a shady business to her audience and blamed them for getting scammed. She pretty much told her old friend Jessi Smiles to get over being raped. Her audience attacked and harassed someone who left a joke comment on Gabbie's instagram post and Gabbie dmed the fan and pretty much said "You asked for it." She's not stellar.

[@zxincendiaxz]

Describing Vine as “millennial TikTok” makes me feel hella old

[@nithyajoanna2034]

Came here to comment that..

[@TheTaytayExperience]

not even accurate tbh, I feel like gen z was the main demographic of vine

[@XMissGX]

@@ollie3838 Gen z start from 1997 to 2012 the oldest gen z are 23 and youngest is 8 this year. Millennial's start from 1981 to 1996 the oldest millennial's is 39 this year and the youngest is 24.

[@limemayo1741]

Bruh, I was like #420 😭😭😭 incredible moment for me, but yeah same 🥺😭😭

[@DeathnoteBB]

Olivia Galvanek No?? Millennials are called millennials because of the millennia...... Gen Z started in 2000. Gen Z wasn’t even a named generation when Vine was a thing

[@samsoftball77337]

Gabbie isn't being shadow banned her content is just irrelevant now lmao

[@Morgan-ni3mu]

Exactly 💀💀💀

[@mywatchdoesmath4669]

Too bad she hasn't gotten the hint

[@bonk895]

@@ew6605 no, being shadowbanned is when your content is no longer shown or your channel. when you looked up her name, her channel and her videos popped up. drama videos popping up isnt being shadowbanned, not being on trending isnt being shadowbanned, like, nikkie tutorials was shadowbanned in which when you looked up her channel name, it did not show up at all, another youtuber who had been hacked was shadowbanned, her videos did not show up to her subscribers unless they had a link and her channel didnt turn up at all

[@jjjjj4787]

And I OOOOP 😂😂😂

[@lissaw4]

@@ew6605 that's not what shadow banning is though...

[@alenajackdaughter1055]

I really like you. You’re intelligent and thorough but not boring.

[@lovely.ameeeee485]

I feel like sometimes she over explains an example after she's made her point.

[@gothtonyhawk]

@@lovely.ameeeee485 i respectfully disagree, i think what you may consider "over explaining" gives good context and starts discussions about the things shes talking about. it's all personal preference tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@joshisaac9845]

I agree I like her a lot too

[@Katie-gr6qq]

Hey, just a 9 months later check in. She in fact, does not get better. It gets so much worse.

[@droolingstar7577]

can't wait for the sequel of this video

[@h29452]

I can't keep up with her (and don't care to) but I saw she kept maniacally tweet feuding with people she worked with on a 3-day show? 2021 is definitely not her year.

[@mudkittens]

“2021 could be the best year of her life” did not age well

[@Darthrena88]

Worse and worse !!!!!

[@catherinedean3796]

oh lord did it get worse

[@christinadamon9818]

Debby Ryan’s reaction to the radio rebel meme is like the perfect antithesis to gabbie’s reaction to the monster meme. Debby posted that tweet saying she trained under the girl in the goofy movie and then left it alone until she made that tik tok recently clowning on herself with the “what I would wear” trend. That was the perfect way to handle the meme, whereas gabbie just put herself in a bad place edit: I’ve never had more than one like on a comment omg thank u all

[@jadumb]

i saw that and was like omgggg she did the thing

[@ceecee6608]

Yeah I died when she did the thing 😂

[@grimace204]

I totally agree. She didn’t spend too much time on it and left it alone and didn’t try and combat the mere with blaming the internet. Whereas gabbie tried to profit off of the meme and dragged it out so long until it wasn’t funny.

[@seemsfishy23]

Shows the difference between people under the guidance of actual publicists bc they’re part of the mainstream media VS acting on their own ego and as their own publicist bc they’re a youtuber working on a less legitimized and less regulated platform

[@politeasshole499]

Similarly, when Kylie tried to make merch out of the “Rise and shine” meme, she received some backlash telling her she’d ruined the joke. I love Debby and liked that meme and she handled it well.

[@cierradove4999]

Debby Ryan is the only person who reclaimed her meme and did it well

[@sophiecashell5395]

Bad Luck Brian

[@para-yw9dn]

so true she's awesome

[@ecb3828]

Yesss, she handled it great lol, her tiktok abt it gave me LIFEEEEEEE 💀😭

[@nathaliajimenez6067]

overly attached girlfriend too 😹

[@giliyaarendofera3344]

Hide the pain Harold

[@arnettrabaker4872]

I’ve never watched a minute of Gabbie Hanna’s content and I still found this video engaging and fun; well-done!

[@pixlfinch1091]

Same

[@21Parmesh]

Literally we just controversy hunting 😂

[@DXZVD18]

“I don’t know if 2021 will be the best year of her career.” Me watching in 2022: 👁👄👁

[@bluiwi]

lol and i'm here watching in 2023

[@dollirl13]

​@@bluiwi I'm here in 2024😭😭

[@sophiearmstrong3455]

Gabbie definitely isn’t a bad singer she just isn’t a great singer either. In my opinion her music is pretty good for “KZbin music” but when compared to “real” singers she isn’t anything special. This combined with her inability to take criticism is what keeps her from becoming an artist outside of the KZbin space.

[@saint9961]

she has a decent voice but her songwriting is mediocre

[@t_ylr]

Yeah like Gabbie can carry a tune, but you would never call her a "great" singer. She's not some amazing songwriter either. Her music is meh. If she wasn't a KZbinr she would not have a music career. I think that rubs people the wrong way.

[@sofypi7493]

she is mediocre which is the worst. not good enough but also not bad enough to be good

[@hippopajamas]

I feel the same way about Gabbie's singing as I do about James. I think both of them have nice voices- if I heard them singing while we were in the car, I would be genuinely impressed and compliment them. That doesn't mean they should jump into music careers. I think either of them have potential with vocal training to become talented, certainly more than me, but they aren't there yet.

[@oliverxhmll]

Having an entirely self funded music career is like me creating a modelling agency and signing myself up even though I'm 5'3. I think Gabbie got way too offended about people not liking her music considering the fact, that she didn't even know how to sing live. She had to take lessons AFTER releasing her music.

[@sadboistorm2588]

“if she doesn’t think she did anything wrong, she’s going to tell you” is the perfect description of gabbie hanna.

[@soph2799]

Also worth noting that her thinking she did something wrong is something that never happens 🙃

[@ihavenoname2569]

I also don't think it would be a problem if she was socially or self aware enough to realise what she did was wrong and I think the majority of critisism of her is more do (other than the Jessie smiles situation) with her lack self awareness rather than the initial situation itself.

[@FallingOutOfLine]

49:09, if anyone was wondering.

[@InvisibleTacoMan]

I have no name Nah, I think the problem is most people on the internet lack vital, and very basic, critical thinking skills. Like the fact that the internet functions on the presumption of being guilty until proven innocent, and believing what other people have to say about certain people rather than the source itself. The fact that Gabbie has continuously explained how erroneous certain accusations are, while other times have taken accountability for everything else, yet people like you still can’t seem to understand that you don’t actually know someone’s character from what you see online and you don’t actually know all, if any, of the facts, really exemplifies this. Maybe take a look at your own self awareness.

[@deeznuts4703]

About the brush scandal, I also found it funny that Gabbie happily marketed them as 80 dollar brushes but when people were disappointed because the quality was bad or the brushes didn't arrive/arrived late, she blamed the buyers for thinking they could get good stuff for 10 dollars

[@ashleyhumbyrd7274]

Yes! This bothers me so much. She does this in so many situations. Like recently she and Perez Hilton were being interviewed about being cancelled. She said he was a hypocrite, that he wasn’t really remorseful bc he keeps doing the same things he apologized for. I’m like, girl! Look in a mirror and say that again.

[@WishIWasBouguereau]

The issue with her talking about being 'shadow banned' is that the creators that are actually being shadow banned are talking about BLM and LGBTQ+.

[@pjs4663]

I'm kinda confused? Does that mean she can't talk about being shadowbanned because others were? I'm not trying to defend her anything, I'm not a fan, this is a genuine question because i don't know the whole situation.

[@lana-xl3nl]

@@pjs4663 it was proven that gabbie was never actually shadowbanned, but she was claiming she was because she wasn’t getting as many views as before. I think greta is saying that people don’t get shadowbanned for any reason, but for talking about specific topics that a lot of people view as “political.” I don’t use youtube that much, but that’s most likely accurate considering KZbin came out with that feature that lets people block lgbt content in the app settings

[@pjs4663]

@@lana-xl3nl Ohhh I see.

[@h29452]

@@lana-xl3nl People can block those topics in their settings? GROSS

[@Evergreen2219]

@@h29452 I think they’re referring to how the parental control features back in 2017 “inadvertently” targeted videos that were LGBTQ focused. It seems to be fixed now but I’m sure it still flags some of them.

[@emilybroadstone6683]

I'm sure Gabbie's "psycho roommate" would've appreciated her being more "constructive and done in private"... Just saying 🙄

[@abdullahsiddiqui788]

She never named her roommate tho...

[@InvisibleTacoMan]

animalcrossing_isabelle The fact that Emily has to say “psycho roommate” rather than the actual name of said roommate kinda makes that statement not true, bruh.

[@fox_6174]

Same with the "pathological liar" bf

[@InvisibleTacoMan]

Fox _ Both of whom are completely anonymous, so neither of you have a point here.

[@fox_6174]

@@InvisibleTacoMan Stans tracked her exs social media and sent hate. Saying he was left completely anonymous is just wrong

[@Sophia-ok3zg]

You know it’s serious when the title ends with a period

[@anniediaz4638]

Wait so a KZbinr made fun of Gabbie, she then made a joke about him to his face, he physically assaulted her and broke her phone, and then went online and made fun of her again and THEN people took HIS side? You’re kidding. How fragile can you be that you can’t take one joke about yourself without getting physically aggressive and yet are so ready to make fun of others??

[@bethanyhartzell1360]

The rice gum situation was weird to watch unfold live. Rice gum was wrong but gabbie also dragged it out past the point of people taking her seriously.

[@SS16000]

yeah i wouldn’t call breaking someone’s phone physical assault lol. both people are in the wrong.

[@imwaytoshort]

He broke the phone but he didn't assault her. She shouldn't of lied about something that didn't happen. I have never been a fan of rice gum but nobody deserves to accused of something that isn't actually true.

[@moonlightmemories959]

didn’t she have scratches and stuff though??

[@amazingkeems7967]

i mean if you watch his video addressing it, idk if it was taken down but it should explain everything.

[@mushroomshrub]

Watching this in the middle of the Great Gabbie Meltdown of 2021 is very interesting, the points about apologies and not taking criticisms especially. Gabbie sure seems to view an apology as a magic reset button that absolves her of all responsibility for her actions and any damage she may have done to her personal and/or professional relationships through them. An apology doesn't mean that other people are gonna like, like you again after the things you've said to them. It doesn't automatically invalidate criticism. You can feel bad about something but it still happened, and she truly doesn't seem to understand the gravity of that.

[@devons.3481]

"The Great Gabbie Meltdown of 2021" is honestly such an apt name for this, couldn't have put it better myself

[@devon1777]

jenna marbles was the only youtuber who was able to grow with her audience. true talent

[@soumyasharma7993]

Ryan higa too!

[@luran1397]

pewdiepie

[@simonelliott5804]

i’ve never seen her content but i’ve heard she’s very good!!

[@simonelliott5804]

Lu i thought he was anti-semitic? also he called one of his viewers a th0t i saw it on tik tok so i don’t have receipts :/

[@a.person4761]

Maisie ;-; even though she’s left the internet, her videos are still up. I recommend watching some of them. She’s very funny and very a likable KZbinr

[@TaraBrooke]

I listened to this as a podcast while I was tanning and GIRL. If you ever get sick of KZbin you’ve truly got a future in podcasting.

[@tacefairy]

Agreed! Just her voice is engaging

[@bellissima78]

What happened to the podcast with Charles?

[@biancadesousa]

Girl why you tanning? Skin cancer says hello

[@jeffbuckleysurinal]

wildflower They could be doing it naturally, like, with sunscreen and all. Like, with the sun, it’s, like, the only way I’ve ever, like, tanned or, like, whatever.

[@sundominga]

AGREED.

[@KPVoice]

I would watch the crap out of an "Evolution of Jenna Marbles" video

[@katyr2382]

There is one:)

[@mynameis_bex5863]

Can we talk ahout Troye Sivan. I feel like he successfully broke from the KZbin realm and into mainstream music.

[@infinitusfinitus]

Wait he was a youtuber?? I only know him as a musician. Guess that proves your point.

[@mynameis_bex5863]

@@infinitusfinitus Yes! I was obsessed with him. He used to be super popular back in like 2012 and would often collab with Tyler Oakley and Zoella/Joe Sugg.

[@TexTheBest]

I mean Justin Bieber was originally a youtuber

[@mynameis_bex5863]

@@TexTheBest yeah but Troye didn't only do covers/music. He did q+as and tags

[@jessicatombleson167]

I didn’t even know he was a youtuber!! I just thought he was discovered and blew up in mainstream

[@kenzieleigh4628]

The fact you have to explain vine makes me feel old

[@mirandastone33]

"millenial tik tok" took me out 💀

[@jadeymacdonald6801]

And how she said it didn’t have the longevity as though the owners of the app didn’t just remove and disable it

[@ems8717]

@@jadeymacdonald6801 why they did that?

[@Wet-Milk]

@@ems8717 because they were too dumb and didnt put any ads on the app so it was constantly losing money. no point in keeping something that doesnt make money

[@areyoulostbabygorl231]

‘Millennial TikTok’ really hurt me even though I’m literally gen z

[@oomay1925]

I'm surprised you only *brushed* through the kenza cosmetics scandal. I think that scandal was detrimental to how the public really started to see her. She didn't just shift blame onto a mic or a company or anything, she blamed her own fans for falling into her sponsored promotion and it broke a lot of trust of her own fans as well as seriously soured how others viewed her.

[@smokey_glow]

Oh I completely agree, I just tried to gloss over stuff I had already made a bunch of videos on! It’s good to know in the future to make things more in-depth 😊

[@SS16000]

lol **brushed** i see what you did there

[@astamanista9447]

mAnAGe yOUr eXPecTAtiOn! If only she can take that advice to her artistic talent.

[@Hollithkate]

Tbh that is what made me completely have a shift on her and made me dislike her incredibly. Ever since she has been literally awful as a person

[@jimenamereles1462]

You're absolutely right, by the time the Kenza cosmetics video came out I was already kinda tired of her content and becoming aware of how shady she was with some stuff, but that video was the final push I needed to definitely unsubscribe from her channel lol. To this day I'm baffled at how poorly she worded that video

[@makylahammer1620]

Aaahaha watching this in 2021 and hearing the line “2021 could be her year” is hilarious

[@jdbruce]

lol yeah

[@Takapon218]

Here in 2022 and ᵘʰʰʰʰ yeah

[@StyleSteals]

I feel like I am listening to my fav cool professor at uni who somehow can make the most boring topics super interesting and life changing

[@sadboistorm2588]

she never claimed her poetry book was satirical/parody until it got criticism. she never claimed satalite was forced by her team until it got criticism. she constantly lies so she doesn’t have own up to face that she just did something that’s bad.

[@new0news]

Yes, and she is annoying in that she truly thinks that she is selling these other artsy things because she is "good" at them and not because she has a dedicated fan base that will buy anything she makes. She wouldn't make it as a singer without a youtube fan base and her poetry was the worst shit I've ever read in my life.

[@robinmitchells]

Rachel Oates’ latest video on Gabbie’s poetry made a really good point about that: it’s not art, it’s just merch. All these stans are making the excuse of “oh she only wrote the books for her fans and if you were a true fan you’d get her messages and hints and blah blah blah” and it’s just like, okay, if it’s only meant for fans of her it’s just merch. She should have just released it on her own personal website or through Etsy if it wasn’t meant for the greater public. But because she wanted the spot on the New York Times bestsellers list (which she was VERY vocal about in videos leading up to the release, very much saying the quiet part out loud) that’s why it got a mass release.

[@new0news]

@@robinmitchells That's such a good point.

[@maddie.bolland.7]

@@robinmitchells Absolutely, that's an excellent point! I love Rachel Oates' videos because they are so eloquent, she's fair with her critiques, and she always backs up what she says.

[@new0news]

@ArianaGrainde What's your point? The poems and stuff are shit regardless of if people want to make claims up. The actual products are their own proof.

[@laisespacini9208]

the video where she "addresses" the criticism on her poetry is probably the worst video of her career tbh. she says she accepts constructive criticism, but did not watch ANY of the videos that were made of her poetry because they were just "mean" when she is a youtuber and understands that a title "gabbie hanna's poetry is bad" is more attractive than "making constructive criticism on gabbie hanna's poetry" lol. she also mentions how she takes constructive criticism from her family and friends, people who are already CLEARLY BIASED TO HER i just can't lmao

[@radioactivechihuahua2781]

the "and thats ART baby" part of the video made my skin crawl

[@erica1800]

I also didn't like how she kind of put down the Iliad, or Shakespeare as these are works no one wants to read. These works have lasted over centuries and their creators are long gone but they're still remembered and taught today. She should have some respect for that kind of legacy.

[@tanya4196]

She said the people who critiqued her book just didn’t understand it and weren’t reading between the lines and looking for the deeper meaning while in the same breath saying it’s a “parody”, light, digestible read that isn’t to be taken seriously. That video was a whole ass mess 🥴

[@mikaelat.6275]

Erica Beato it was such a terrible argument too. The Iliad and Shakespeare have lasted BECAUSE people liked them and wanted to read them. If we didn’t like them, they wouldn’t have lasted and no one would have noticed if they disappeared

[@erica1800]

Mikaela T. True! I mean I learned both the Iliad and the Odyssey and plays of Shakespeare in high school and I’d take them any day over her “poetry”... smh

[@TheSideProject]

I just love how this girl literally had an objective perspective without insulting or even being violent to Gabbie, calling her names or even laughing at her. She did it right, informative and clear. No need to make her look bad, at all. Loved it.

[@itscristyhere]

I can't stress enough how perfect this analysis is! Totally respectful, informative and logic. What an amazing take on a topic, subbed

[@alpacalypse4552]

hannah: taking criticism is a big part of being- me: an adult hannah: -an influencer me: well probably that too

[@robinmitchells]

Well I think we all gave up on ever holding Gabbie to the standard of acting like an adult lol

[@raeganlewis9723]

we need this series on iiSuperwomenii !!! that’s a crazy content transformation!!

[@smokey_glow]

That’s such a good idea!

[@BhashwatiDutta]

Yes please!

[@burneraccountforthewin]

@@smokey_glow Maybe 2 parts for Lily? Pre-Late night and post late night because there's alot to unpack in both

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

@@burneraccountforthewin and mention the olay ads, seeing lily promote skin care my mum uses is a bit weird.

[@mj-yo7vt]

Absolutely! I was watching her for years and now it's unbearable

[@oceandelver]

You nailed the rice gum situation, it really did change how people saw her. Sad that the focus was if she was lying about being hit when regardless he broke her phone and it was a physical altercation. I don't really like her but that's such a shitty situation to be in.

[@MissCaraMint]

While that is true, the fact that he unprompted did pay for the damage and the fact that she genuinely seemed to have been basically harassing him does matter. Honestly people would probably have been on her side if she had been honest about this. The discussion would probably have been more about how even if someone is harassing you you can’t just respond with a disproportionate amount of force. Hell Gabbie could well have said she didn’t realize how much she was bothering him and the discussion might have been about how not everyone can pick up on social cues and how communicating effectively to someone that they are bothering you is the way to deal with things. Because Ricegum was genuinely wrong. Unfortunately Gabbie ended up shooting herself in the foot in the way she went about telling the internet about the situation. She basically lied to make herself look better, when she didn’t have to. People don’t like that kind of thing, and it completely overshadowed the initial situation as a result.

[@Thicccrewmatecheeks]

I’m started dying when she talked about the “wÓäH”😂

[@brinka7918]

I think Gabbie got so comfortable with having a steady audience that she cannot understand that people might just get over her and her content

[@maureentreynor104]

I really like this video because you painted gabbie as a person, whereas the impression I get from other channels is that gabbie is this manipulative villain.

[@jaclynmccosker]

It's rare people remember she's an ordinary person trying to navigate serious situations with millions of people watching. Pretty sick of videos just framing her as a Disney villain out to skin people's dogs or something.

[@maureentreynor104]

@@jaclynmccosker Right, like there are obvious things gabbie shouldn't have done, but that doesn't make her the worst person on youtube. I don't follow or support gabbie anymore, but that was my conclusion to come to. crazy.

[@jaclynmccosker]

Maureen Treynor I’m only following her because I heard all this stuff about a KZbinr who sounded like the devil until I finally had a look at her videos and looked into the accusations and realised there was some cyber bullying going on... a lot of the commenters I was believing had a loose grip on reality. I also see so much misogyny aimed at her for things like “fishing for compliments” as if that would make someone a bad person? Honestly can you imagine having your own imperfections, mistakes and negative character traits blown up to comedic proportions and made into news? Few of us would make it through the same scrutiny.

[@maureentreynor104]

@@jaclynmccosker for sure, i do not support bullying or harassment toward anyone. I just hope gabbie learns her lesson from her past mistakes and takes strides to be better, and i hope the views will give her the time of day.

[@hannahwinfrey6930]

Ew she may be a person but she is def a weird ass perv talking about having sex with minors? Pretty sure I've never joked that way....but go off sis. 😂💀✨

[@laust-b33ch1ldd7]

“2021 could be the best year of her career who knows?” oh.. oh boy..

[@promiseimnot3moohwaithowma721]

I'm really impressed with this video. The setup, the pace, the tone of voice, it all kept me interested for an impressively long time. Honestly, my attention span is pretty short and yet I checked and just watched 40 minutes of content like it was 5.

[@shaynapickett9908]

Same! Didn’t realize how long I’ve been sitting here

[@honeybeesnbutterfliez4219]

In my opinion, the largest factor in her loss of popularity was definitely her “I’m sorry, BUT” attitude with each of her scandals. If she actually took the opportunity to learn & grow from each of her wrongdoings she would probably be in a very different place. I loved the video, Hannah!

[@haileejacob1995]

Noire Snow Gabbie? Is that you?

[@honeybeesnbutterfliez4219]

Hailee Jacob BAHAHA

[@Riviwriter]

Something else to add about the joke stealing scandal: Gabbie Hanna copyright claimed the videos criticizing her, and tried to have them taken down (which I believe they eventually were, while her video remains up). She was bullying smaller channels while outwardly pretending she was happy to address the issues

[@astamanista9447]

@Tootie Ramsey And she had the NERVE to complain to youtube for suppressing her channel/videos when she pulled stunts like this. She really needs to take several seats on the back before talking about youtube and their horrible treatments to creators.

[@shannon4446]

She now copies Chris Delia CONSTANTLY. Surprised nobody has ever called her out on it.

[@shannon4446]

She doesn’t know how to be original

[@sierrahargrave]

on the ricegum drama, at the time i really appreciated how she only went to phillip defranco to cover the story, whereas ricegum went to multiple drama channels. i think that was a good move.

[@chantelfindlay8181]

Can you do an updated video on Gabbie Hanna, particularly how she's been acting on social media as of late, using her platform/"fame" to take down smaller creators

[@sahasrak6821]

She has! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGjPZayMYpyCsJI

[@sarahhollywood3811]

Lately all gabby has done is caused everyone to ask for mental health for gabby.

[@bobemmadoodles6913]

i think she's having trouble realizing that she's having/had her decline. I dont think she fully realized that, like every youtube career (eventually), her's will fall Edit: omg thanks y’all for all the likes!! I’ve has this thought for awhile lol

[@johnnyappleseed3875]

Emma I agree. She also thinks really highly of her own music which yeah sure that’s fine have confidence but she doesn’t accept the fact that a lot of people also dislike it. Same with her horrible poetry book.

[@faithfox8851]

I think her problem especially is that she doesn’t understand that every youtuber rises and falls in terms of views. there’s times where your views are low and where your views are high. at this time, her views are low, and she refuses to acknowledge that it’s because she’s not making videos that the algorithm likes🤷🏻‍♀️ the only people who want to listen to her music imo are her stans. and instead of acknowledging that her videos are not what the average youtube watcher wants to watch, she blames everyone else ie. youtube shadow banning her.

[@sandrae2398]

@@faithfox8851 I agree. Plus her content currently isn't what her subscribers signed up for. They wanted stories, and she shifted so much. You can tell she doesn't even enjoy it anymore, she even said it herself. It's concerning to see how she won't even consider that maybe people just don't like what she's putting out.

[@faithfox8851]

who knowsss 100% agree

[@kuritheking]

And many youtubers decline and bounce on back! It's too bad she has a shit attitude about being critiqued

[@MCR262]

I feel like we should also talk about her dynamic with her fans where she turns to them for validation and reassurance in her actions (when it’s clear as day that they’re biased). She also TELLS her fans to “do what they feel is best” in regards to anyone who criticizes her aka giving them permission to attack and send death threats to people. She’s the biggest hypocrite yet plays the victim more than I’ve ever seen on this site

[@momedusa]

Yeah that whole helloleesh situation was ridiculous. She also brought her bf into the convo but then didn’t even let him have his own opinion cuz before he knew what was going on, she was already explaining it to him in her frantic way

[@MCR262]

@@momedusa Right?? She lied about her entire interaction with helloleesh and purposely tried to make her sound and look crazy. It's especially sad and evil because Gabbie pretends to be a mental health advocate.

[@nikkijen8138]

100% truth.

[@bam0928]

Honestly how do you not have like 5 mil subscribers?? You’re so level headed and fair about this whole situation. I’ve ended up watching everything regarding this and you’ve given the most even, best history of this without being nasty, but also not allowing her to get away with poor behavior.

[@alexamandes8872]

I could literally listen to Hannah talk about anyone and anything. She is so good at explaining these types of situations so unbiasedly and she’s so good at putting a different perspective on why people do what they do

[@mychannel5614]

No one has said this before, so I'll say it now. Gabbie Hanna is a real life version of Trina Vega from Victorious, in every way possible.

[@ethanbrown6188]

OK but Trina was iconic and probably the best character in the show while gabbie is.... Not

[@tired4252]

Sand Box uH yEs she WAS- cHICAGOOOOO-

[@lanie7569]

I GOT CONFUSED W TRINA AND TORI I APOLOGIZE

[@dee-zd9we]

Ethan Brown this is jade/cat erasure

[@Gravve01]

At least Trina was funny 😢

[@andreas_iced8297]

"Tyler Oakley or Hannah Hart" God, hearing those names after all this time is like getting hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.

[@edenp.1123]

It was a simpler time

[@snortyseacow7402]

Maybe ora'd?

[@minervaavalon]

after all this time 😭

[@ddc8888]

Wtf even is Utube today? Oh God I'm old.

[@Just_Julia_]

I only know Tyler oakley from escape the night season two...so what happened after that?

[@mariaakaannie6138]

I used to love Gabbie, but it is like you said, she seemed more and more unable to take accountability and criticsm. I wasn't extremely young when I started following her, but I was still a teenager, and as I grew older Gabbie's defensiveness also became clearer to me and in turn also less likeable.

[@hol-la-la7255]

Here in 2021 and it's not her best year. Lol

[@katyr2382]

Hahaha dumpster fire might sum it up even 2 months after your comment it 📉

[@ellymac6173]

Gabbie has big "other girls were mean to me in high school and I never got over it" energy

[@izzy332]

Elly Mac UwU even though I now hold influence over people I’m always the victim 😔 criticize me and I’ll take it as bullying TvT

[@puffball4484]

I mean bullying is abuse and that can cause real trauma. But if that's the case she needs to seek help.

[@reyalsfoswodahs]

I’d love to see a video like this on Jenna Marbles. Her career on KZbin, ups and downs, content analysis, channel analysis, etc...

[@jess9722]

jenna got better. i remember she used to be angrier when she first started out and i think it was because she was in an unhappy relationship with Max. Then they broke up, she started to rediscover herself outside of a relationship and eventually she met Julian. Overall she became more chill.

[@nerdythespian1212]

I would love a video like that. I think it would be super interesting especially because Jenna is an OG youtuber.

[@DiegoLeggo]

YES!

[@WeWannaRockAllNight]

I miss Jenna’s content so much

[@girlgenius2543]

Jess i agree. I think Jenna in the beginning of her career was angry and unhappy in her life: she had a master’s degree but worked as a go-go dancer, she was young and immature, and she self-admittedly had a lot of internalized self-hate towards women and other men. She grew up, and got better over time, and met Julian and became a much much better person but it took years and it took growth.

[@laurenpaige8493]

Gosh Smokey's pondering on where GH goes from here really hits different after all the Escape the Night stuff went down this week.

[@djungelskog2738]

I was one of Gabbie's fans who aged out of her content. I aged out in 2018 like you said a lot of the people who were there from the start did. I loved her so much. I would spam like all her posts to be Showstopper Of The Week (a fan shoutout she would do at the end of each video), I had a fan page for a bit and she even liked my comments on KZbin a bunch of times. So, it has been really disappointing to see what she has done since I stopped watching her. She went from a person I could have looked back on fondly to someone I wish I never supported in the first place. Especially with all the recent things she has done.

[@aj6338]

Can you do one on “dead” KZbin channels like Hannah hart, Tyler Oakley, Connor franta, zoella, etc? Also what happens when a channel “dies”? Does the person go back to a normal job? What if they don’t have a degree (dropping out)? What do you think will happen to everyone after youtube, inevitably, “dies” as a website/app?

[@venus3173]

They will just live on their earnings I would like to assume they had planned smart and gotten a personal accountant the second they started making a substantial enough amount of money! Sucks if they didn’t imagine running into tana working at subway lol

[@emmyrip8615]

The people that own “dead” channels seem pretty smart and like the other person said, saved. The new gen I dunno tho aka tana jake etc

[@Xx-nm5pn]

I think Connor Franta is doing just fine and he’s been doing things outside of KZbin but tyler oakley and zoella is definitely struggling

[@youruncleolaf4694]

Zoella doesn’t seem to be struggling at all, I just checked and her channel Zoella has 11 million subs and Zoe Sugg has 4 million.

[@ababy5334]

@@youruncleolaf4694 Pretty sure most of those subs come from fans back in the day, who forgot about those channels and, as such, forgot to unsub.

[@shbeebop]

Can you do one on Colleen ballinger I’m honestly so confused about what happened w her

[@daleydiggs2554]

What are you confused about?

[@e-linamarie]

Shelby Bock honestly same, idrk what happened from like 2017-now w her😂

[@shbeebop]

Daley Diggs she was like “canceled” a while back but it seemed weird since she’s always been so family friendly, but I’m not really a regular viewer of hers so I just thought it would be interesting to see an in depth video on how her content has changed over the years

[@camcat26]

One thing that happened is she was sharing too much personal stuff with teenage fans. It didn’t seem predatory, but it was different kind of inappropriate.

[@kathryn.r]

@@camcat26 yeah I think she had good intentions but they got a little too private for a kid. She owned up to it though and didn't make a super dramatic apology videos which I admired

[@VictoriaLopez-ef3vg]

You should do Colleen/Miranda next, now that would be a difficult one! Her whole family is on KZbin and she’s been on the platform for so long

[@jordyncollis2018]

Hearing vine explained as "millennial tik tok" aged me

[@purplelamp273]

I don't really care about any other scandal (I do kinda care about the Kenza cosmetics one because it shows she just wanted a cash grab - but it doesn't boil my blood) other than the Jessi Smiles situation. There are threads on twitter of REAL screenshots of Gabbie saying horrible shit she still claims she did not say. That level of narcissism is Trumpian. Not only does it mean her stans will still bully Jessi and call her a liar and a clout chaser for attacking her, but if I was Jessi, it would hurt me being that gaslighted. And as a survivor of SA, it hurts me seeing someone gaslighted like I was.

[@minuishaq631]

Love the phrase Trumpian

[@elizabethstormont645]

What I took from this: Her career would be wildly different if she had a PR person

[@CheersMyDudes]

I wanna feel sorry for Gabbie, I really do. I actually liked her health and fitness content years ago. I feel like she’s trying to do too much and has become a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none. She’s always had an air of self importance and sense of entitlement about her that’s hard to watch. I remember seeing one of her old rant videos talking about how when she was an exchange student living in the UK she used to steal food from the markets and was justifying it because the food was “too expensive”. But in the same story she was talking about going out partying and stuff, so she was too poor to pay for food but she could go to expensive nightclubs all the time. Ok. Makes sense.

[@Jrr592]

The thing I will say about that, is that I think the type of person Gabbie is, she would rather stop taking care herself then have people think she couldn’t afford to party or couldn’t afford to go out, NOT JUSTIFYING THE SHOPLIFTING, but I think that’s just what makes the most sense to me

[@kjeracarroll450]

Very organized and fluid! One thing I would say about the rice gum and gabby is that she should have paid attention to boundaries and not be in his face. However, he should have never touched her/her phone. It wasn’t right! Great video!!

[@TheJackieOsvaldo]

joji, troye sivan, and conan gray are ideal examples of youtubers successfully going on to pursue a musical career. but they’re on a whole other level in terms of how they sound, lyrics, and themes, which people like gabbie and james charles lack. they’re just basic singers- not too good, not too bad, just... average imo. i don’t think they’ll ever get anywhere outside of doing singing videos on KZbin

[@natashagarcia9203]

I've never heard of any of those people

[@TheFullmetalkayla]

also tessa violet!

[@TT-ig7tg]

Natasha Reeves do you live under a rock??

[@shanfartpoop]

Natasha Reeves Also Dodie!

[@sillystringeater]

@Mary Anne KO I think joji is a pretty good and well liked singer, however I do agree with the fact everyone tends to discredit her work because of her antagonist role in the KZbin community

[@mellyr2584]

Gabbie hannas problem is that she’s just not self aware

[@kindasorta123]

The fact that it didn't cross her mind that she was not getting as many views because people don't care about her content anymore and instead assumed KZbin has it out for her is a big oof. Like read the room sweetheart lol

[@AmyAberrant]

And on top of that she has a fragile ego

[@kate-ne]

I had stopped watching most of her stuff for a while but the reason I unsubscribed from her was because when she started dating her current (?) boyfriend, their interactions were so cringe and made me so uncomfortable lol.

[@valeriecharlettes5330]

I’m amazed at how good you are at talking. You’re very articulate and none of this seemed scripted at all yet you must have taken a ton of notes for this! Definitely a great quality in a KZbinr!

[@cheynefinney2132]

Hearing "2021 could be the year of Gabbie's life and she could gain 10million subs" is the funniest thing in hindsight 😂

[@ScarletBegonia1974]

Gabbie Hanna is the perfect example of “when someone shows you who they are, believe them”. She has shown people time and time again that she is self serving, selfish and entitled. I’m choosing to believe her.

[@arlssss]

Devi true, but her actions and reactions to the consequences of those actions is what rubs people the wrong way :/

[@mayab9102]

as we say in writing, show don't tell

[@elenaskantzou832]

@@DarkAngel71180 The reason why we are taught not to believe everything we see on social media is because influencers/KZbinrs are exposing a very small part of their lives, so it is easy to put on your best self for that short amount of time and give people the impression that you are a perfect little snowflake of love and kindness. And yet, even though we see "short, edited snippets of her life" (during which she should be putting on her best self, like everyone would), Gabbie still manages to come off as self-centered, self-serving and manipulative. Even on those few minutes of exposure, that she knows people are gonna judge her by so one can only assume she is being careful, she is still exhibiting horrible character traits. I think it is safe to assume, she is actually being worse behind the scenes. Plus, some things aren't just "biased KZbin drama". Being friendly toward your former friend's rapist and then trying to cover it up by saying there is no proof of you doing it, isn't just drama. It is absolutely disgusting behavior and a huge insight as to who Gabbie really is.

[@ElizabethNicoleSchwartz]

I think the person that did the best transition from youtuber to musician is Troye Sivan. Edit: I'm talking about KZbinrs that did OTHER content first. Not people that posted their music on KZbin and then were discovered.

[@ksenia2933]

Shawn Mendes as well

[@ElizabethNicoleSchwartz]

@@ksenia2933 he wasn't making like regular KZbin content though as far as I know. He went from vine covers to releasing music.

[@coffee7374]

Yes and Alessia Cara

[@sabrina-gabrielfreeman3574]

we stan our south Africans 👏🏼👏🏼

[@yoramenraps1011]

And Joji

[@cupcakesroar5828]

I think you missed one very key and pivotal moment in Gabbie Hanna’s career. It was when she had a collab with Shane Dawson. I’d say this is what put her on the map, he exposed her to his huge audience and then they went and subscribed to her channel and stayed for the exaggerated story times. Shane Dawson is literally a career maker.

[@maddydohnt3736]

Your videos are so good to listen to while I'm playing Sims hehe just subbed

[@NicoleUntch]

Gabbie’s music was always way too specific... there’s a reason most artists don’t say what every single song they write is about, so people find their own personal meanings. Her new songs are actually good, but knowing it’s about Gabbie bitching about her haters is off putting

[@rachelwharton4245]

Super good point.

[@Yusoo8]

Exactly you never hear The Weeknd or Sia talk about their haters or meanings to their songs

[@ashf6055]

I completely agree. I actually enjoyed her first EP but her latest one really comes off poorly given it’s so clearly centered around her recent YT drama. I think I would maybe like it a bit more if I didn’t know all of the background and the songs were just a bit more generalized in their meaning.

[@Kaastengels]

Tbh.... A particular popular boyband does this too but I'm not gon say it

[@vfam.4308]

I agree. I liked her other music. especially butterflies and medicate... but yeah the new songs are way off putting.

[@skrittle555]

there was a video titled "gabbie hanna doesn't know how to take criticism" and i swear to god she posted a screenshot of it on twitter and called it a "hate video." like bruh you and the point are on different planets lmao

[@lotusfae]

The death of Vine wasn't because it died down in popularity. Twitter purchased Vine and pretty quickly shut it down, with plans to integrate it into their own short video feature. A lot of us were very shocked as Vine was still quite active. TikTok kinda jumped in on the corpse of Vine (seriously, mobile ads for it skyrocketed after Vine was bought and they acquired Musically) and we all slowly but begrudgingly accepted it as our best option. I am all for TikTok, but let's not get it twisted. It was definitely not a typical "eh, this platform dwindled and a new one became stronger."

[@galeg4021]

yeah. a lot of the big stars also pulled out of the platform because they wanted ad revenue and partnership and they were laughed at lol

[@Alexcutspie]

YES!

[@bobbyswanson3498]

I don’t think gabbie is actually hated but instead she’s more of a laughing stock type figure. She just won’t be taken seriously by anyone because of all the things she’s done

[@justasmalltowngirllivingin8453]

Gabby is like a high school friend. The kind of friend who never got over high school. Where you ate talking about adult thing they are still taking about what went down at prom....it like girl that was. Years ago move on

[@KylaJames]

just a small town girl living in a lonely world this is so accurate

[@katherinerinck3722]

I was never a stan of GH, but I did enjoy her storytimes. I would say I was a casual fan. The pivotal moment that turned me away from her was the Guy Tang situation, where she did a video of going to him for a hair cut and color. She did him so dirty by clickbaiting her video "Hair Cut Disaster!" with a thumbnail of a hood over her head. She had told Guy to his face that she liked the cut and color and that he did a good job. Then she got home and made a video that made him look bad. I couldn't believe it. Then when she started getting heat for it I thought, surely she'll change the title or thumbnail, or tell us he was in on it, or SOMETHING. Nope. Nothing. She didn't seem to give a shi*t that she did that to him. That was the first time I saw that sort of character pop through and it really soured me towards her. I also disliked that she blamed her reaction to his haircut on her anxiety. I can't stand it when people do that. Like, sure, trusting someone with your hair can be challenging for someone with anxiety. But anxiety didn't cause you to clickbait that Guy Tang's professional skills are lacking to the entire internet. And then act like it's not big deal. Nope, miss me with that sh*t.

[@mickeyn482]

I totally forgot about that. It made me so upset because guy tang so clearly loved doing hair and making videos about it and it was so disappointing to see her just straight up bash him

[@xwinoxrhinox]

yes, i remember that! gabbie had always given me a bad vibe but i couldn’t put my finger on why so i kept trying to give her a chance but that video was it for me. it just seemed like she was willing to potentially hurt Tangs career for click bait and it’s gross. also alllll of her videos were egregiously clickbaity at that time, like they had NOTHING to do with the title and i was pissed off that she was wasting my time.

[@leslier7350]

Yes..This experience was werid..she said she liked it then she didnt? Could she have changed her mind? Maybe but making and posting the video she didnt have to, im also not sure what she was trying to do with that and if the anxiety thing was true but everything could have been done differently..even if she didnt like her hair..it was like this werid drama/idk the truth is with that..

[@leslier7350]

Also the werid suppose thing that he was in On the title of the video?..

[@potato-whiz]

I thought I was the only, this was it for me, too. She was so bratty and privilege and just straight up rude with that whole thing. And he was really nice about it and fixed it. If she’d just told him on the spot she didn’t like it, after telling him to just surprise her, it would have been so much better. Or even just called him the next day to ask him to fix it. But she turned it into a story time and just completely threw him under the bus. It just showed me who she was as a person. Bad look.

[@sib2663]

In the best way you have such an engaging professor-adjacent energy I would 100% attend your lectures

[@punchbat]

ok but your intro where you wished me an amazing day really made me feel loved 🥺 i haven’t been having the best day and hearing someone say that means a lot

[@paigeronald3813]

Literally have had the most stressful day ever, an hour long video is exactly what I needed!! 🙌🙌

[@kawaiikoibito3268]

Yea I love a good video from Smokey

[@shannonperez3779]

Didn’t even notice the time until I read your comment!

[@lenablackwood1637]

Hope the rest of your day goes well sis ❤️

[@raeganlewis9723]

preach

[@jenpierce1106]

Same girl! Hope you’re feeling better!

[@evaintrouble7583]

Take from a studio vocalist - Gabbie’s voice is technically fine, and it’s admirable that she went and got a vocal coach to improve. But yeah... there’s no artistic spark in anything that Gabbie does. At best, she would be a fun karaoke partner. But given the sound of her voice, and literally just her terrible temperament, she will never cut it in the music industry. She takes herself entirely too seriously and has essentially surrounded herself with yes men. She acts like a diva and no one in the music industry wants to work with someone who can’t take valid criticism.

[@jadedheroine]

she can't even control the volume of her voice

[@haloban7384]

Idk I used to dislike her music until I got to her newer work.

[@evaintrouble7583]

Lex GH can do “quiet” and “loud.” I honestly thought maybe she was trained that way, but then I saw a live recording of her where she’d supposedly improved a lot and I realized that... no... she just thinks that’s how you express emotion through singing. By getting louder.

[@koraps]

Agree. Also practice and study is everything. There is famous people with way less gifted voices than her but they studied the craft and learned to sing good. Honestly if she takes music so seriously she should study music, get trained, practice and she would see so much better results with her singing. Also getting an actual music producer and manager would not hurt her either. But yeah, focusing her energy where it needs to be if she wants to brake into the music industry.

[@audreybea4013]

Honestly I wonder what you would think of my voice. I’ve never really thought of if it has a spark or not I’ve just thought I can sing like hit the notes and everything and idk now I’m just curious

[@constantine7953]

Her saying, “I’m only in KZbin for the money” just reminds me of in the movie A League of their own when Kit got mad at her sister for not really wanting to be a part of the league so she yelled at her, “then WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!”

[@nila9320]

I just found this channel and omg I love your content!! You give credit for where its due and at the same time criticize her at the right places. I love how unbiased and balanced the opinion and criticism was.

[@wtaffam]

The issue with her book wasn't just that it was half-assed it was blatantly plagiarised? Half the content I saw people highlighting was stolen tweets and tumblr posts... I dont know if anyone has actually gone and tracked down the source for a lot of them but anyone who's been online for half a minute had seen some of the content in her book already.

[@emojee6289]

the "poetry" book literally says: -link in bio

[@TT-ig7tg]

God the lack of effort🙄

[@justkibby5959]

I was a big fan of hers and considered buying that book because I write poetry too. I would've been absolutely pissed off for spending my money on that. It's basically a mockery of poetry and I absolutely infuriated me.

[@multifandomharlot]

@@justkibby5959 it's the way i used to be a huge fan of her around the time she published that book and my dumbass bought it 😭 now idk what to do with it, it's just collecting dust on my shelf

[@AspiringCrybaby2018]

multi-fandomer put it on eBay and get that coin. 😂😭

[@kinsey751]

Lol funny story- I sent gabbie a book I'd published a few years ago because I was a fan of hers and Yolo etc. I lost interest in her content after but then a few months ago I tried watching some of her cleaning videos, saw my own book on her bookshelf, which was kind of exciting until she immediately got rid of it in said video lol I then unfollowed out of crushing embarrassment and am catching up now. But it's so hard to weigh what she is in my mind compared to everything I'm hearing now.

[@peonylarkspur645]

That is...wow. I would’ve felt sick to my stomach if I had to watch that, I’m so sorry

[@kinsey751]

@@peonylarkspur645 at the time it was kind of rough. In fact in the video she pulls it out and goes "What the hell is 21st Century Gothic?" and her camera guy just says "I don't know a font or something" then I saw it in the donation pile. Like, it was nice she kept it that long, but it made me weirdly embarrassed to have to watch her thought process as she got rid of it lol If I'd still been a big fan I'd probably have cried

[@Leftnip_]

I defs can see why youd be sad about her getting rid of your book. To you it meant going out of your way to acknowledge your love for her, but, to her in that moment she was decluttering, which is something every adult does. It must have obviously meant something to her for her to keep it in her house for so long, especially in a place that it would be seen by others. It likely was a loved object by her. I also agree that i dont think gabbie hannah is a bad person, so i dont believe that she woykd purposely throw your book away to hurt you. Shes probably got alot of stuff from fans. It would be hard to keep it all

[@kinsey751]

@@Leftnip_ yeah I mean I didn't think she was a bad person for it at all. It's just weird to see, like watching someone get rid of something you got them for Christmas. It was just weird to have to see

[@qifreys]

@Kinsey what is the name of the book? I’d like to check it out.

[@ocon10731]

Smokey Glow you need to put these vids in podcast form. Your vids are so podcast-ey

[@brookequast3080]

i just have to say you are so well spoken and eloquent and i love how much research you put into your videos and how insightful you are

[@itsalysssaa]

remember when gabbie told us all that we were just reading her poetry wrong and didn’t get the point of it because it was meant to be “childlike” but never mentioned that fact before she got tons of criticism for it being terrible 😌😌😌 she could teach a class called gaslighting 101 & rewriting the past

[@valeriemorales7893]

"it's supposed to be fun and silly" "look deeper for the meaning" "I'm talking about serious topics and I worked really hard on this" "some of these poems are just thrown in cause I ran out of time to write"

[@tanatswa7122]

Valerie Morales So so accurate. She was constantly flip flopping.

[@livinginredsoxnation]

It almost sounds like she’s going the Tanya Burr route. She thinks she’s getting too good for KZbin and that she should be seen as this serious writer and musician, but she doesn’t have a thick enough skin to put herself out there. She knows that once she puts herself out there, people will be able to criticize her (even constructively) and I don’t think she can handle that.

[@soccerbopper124]

I completely forgot about tanya burr. remember when she tried to start an acting career?

[@jamarsh09]

Bingo I wish she would listen when people tell her that professionals take criticism and use it to improve Like I'm not a fan but if she really wanted to succeed she could if she just learned to take criticism

[@saggguy7]

She wants to be taken seriously as an artist without doing any of the work necessary to become a good artist

[@heidiol4194]

I totally forgot about Tanya Burr

[@clickhere2d1e]

She's absolutely trying to go the Tanya Burr route. Gabbie once admitted herself that she's too sensitive to work in the entertainment industry. Yet she still pushes on trying to make herself seem like a real musician. It makes you wonder why she keeps hurting herself like that even after she realized that it isn't healthy for her. That's what makes her mental breakdown so hard to sympathize with for me.

[@kristinajonsson7497]

I recently discovered your content and I honestly love it! You put great effort into them and you stay so professional and stick to what is actually “the problem” rather than diss on someone’s appearence etc it’s very refreshing

[@katyavinogradova7688]

this was very interesting! thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into making this video! it is especially helpful to someone like me who doesn't have time to keep up with everything that's happening with youtube influencers but I wanna be in the loop.

[@kayladawn5270]

I watched Gabbie back when she was doing story times, and she reminds me a lot of Tana. It's very sad how both of them went from being upbeat and fun to pretty unwatchable because they just keep getting involved in scandals and don't take accountability.

[@kaylaeichholz]

Hello, fellow Kayla Dawn 😂🌹😊

[@mariedevan]

That’s because their real personalities came out.

[@SheenaReine]

Vine died because they didn’t want to pay their creators.

[@ryannsam5298]

It is obvious you have a good soul. You appear quite unbiased and heartfelt, all while delivering some constructive criticism at times you still have class . . I wish more were unbiased ( even if just for appearance ) I’m seeing on here lately that finding someone who is genuine and authentic is quite like finding the hope diamond, It’s quite refreshing to see someone Who isn’t full of hate. Best wishes I love your content

[@ambermichonart]

This was my first time coming across your channel and I love the way you analyze!! I felt like you were so fair and understanding while still having an opinion. You seem very smart too!!

[@cailinanne]

Vine was murdered because it couldn’t be monetized 😭

[@Rubyef]

capitalism at its finest

[@insomniaczombie8942]

I'm glad it died, that platform was just filled with hyper-cringeworthy "influencers" same goes for musically and tiktok, fee-yuck

[@kerri6011]

@@insomniaczombie8942 you just had to find the right side that suits you, same with youtube and every other social media platform

[@new0news]

Their algorithm also SUCKED by the end of it's run. There would be literally one good vine and all of the top Vines were just famous people doing dubs of the vine. The other top videos would just be from the Hollywood and Vine people who all moved in together and made really shitty content. It was so bad by the end you couldn't even find good new videos at all which made it's popularity tank. I know Tik Tok has other issues but their algorithm is one million times better.

[@EricSun777]

@@insomniaczombie8942 Ok but what does fee-yuck mean? is that a new platform lol?

[@sapphiresky124]

You're much fairer and nicer to her than I feel. The way she's flippant about sexual assault, how she just throws away friendships, onto how she would rather blame all of KZbin than admit her views are decreasing makes her seem like an actual nightmare of a human being. She seems incapable of empathy and introspection.

[@sarahsugersarah]

i was surprised how nice she was towards gabbie at the rice gum situation. she did lie about being hit for dramatics... it was a bad situation for both parties but what he did was bad enough why say he hit u? hm

[@thatweirdboy]

sams5 she actually never lied about that , she clarified later that when she said “hit” in the snapchat story she meant it as “he physically took my phone away with a force” which is one way that the word can be used. But most people (bc of her reaction ofc) took it as assaulting her. But in her video addressing the situation she said it wasn’t “beating” more like physical force like smokyglow said.

[@thatweirdboy]

sams5 and also u can hate gabbie to the core but the ricegum situation can’t be gabbie fault AT ALL.

[@sarahsugersarah]

@@thatweirdboy i saw her response. i thought it was a little like.. why say hit? when u go this guy hit me it paints a picture.. i just thought it sounded like bs. and i dont think in the situation it can be just rice gums fault either as simple as that would be.

[@sarahsugersarah]

@@thatweirdboy i do think the situation is an assualt and objectively rice gum is the bad guy and looks worse. but its also not ok to say a guys hit u when he just didnt. it felt like what gabbie tends to do and expands the truth a little to get views.. it couldve been her reality idk but shes not faultless either. no one deserves to get their shit destroyed but people can get in huge trouble saying someone hit u when they grabbed and destroyed ur phone. it heavily implies a lot

[@amandajean2406]

I don’t always agree with your opinions, but I love that you explain people/brands/dramas so thoroughly. You’re very informative on information I don’t NEED to know, but WANT to know. Keep on keeping on momma!

[@klowen29]

Such a good video! You are so well spoken and get to the point without going on a bunch of tangents! I couldn’t stop watching!