The Exile Kills Vrook Lamar

[@cobaltcardsgaming5982]

Fun fact: If you use Force Sight (taught by Visas) on Vrook, he has a weaker Light Side alignment than the other masters, fitting for one as arrogant and dogmatic as him.

[@PapitoQinn]

Is that so? Interesting. Thanks for letting me know.

[@sambridgers9543]

If only my laptop's graphics settings could let me see Force Sight or holograms properly.

[@GaeaRage0798]

Ironic how succumbing to the Light actually makes you stray from it.

[@ABFan-bj2uj]

He had a strong Dark Side alignment and managed to cloak it with a weak Light Side alignment.

[@kitosjek9541]

@@GaeaRage0798 more how succumbing to a dogma makes you stray from the Light.

[@noahfessenden6478]

For as irritating a character Vrook is, Ed Asner does a great job making Vrook as hated as he his.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

(russel shows up to assist him for the killing a sith badge)

[@Fizz-Pop]

He voices a Jedi Master in SWTOR and is altogether more agreeable.

[@WillieManga]

Yeah, I'm surprised that he played in games as well!

[@Leila555]

God I hate Vrook. Usually I don’t kill any of my former masters just because I want them to gather so I can learn the truth, but damn if this doesn’t feel satisfying. His arrogance and hypocrisy and ignorance are despicable, throughout both games.

[@aamirrazak3467]

yeah i hated him from the first time you see him in kotor, his arrogance and self righteousness pissed me the hell off

[@ZKP314]

@@aamirrazak3467 Probably the only thing going for him is that he was worried about how Bastilla was being used as the crux of their strategy, despite being just a padawan.

[@aamirrazak3467]

@@ZKP314 true but how much of that is coming from actually caring about her, versus just being worried about how that affects the order

[@DarkApe117]

Is it possible to kill one and let the other 2 live? (Havent played in a decade lol)

[@juanmola2000]

@@DarkApe117 I remember killing everyone except for Zez-kai ell. He contronted me in Dantooine when the council takes place and had unique dialogue. I guess you could let 2 live if you turn to the dark side before doing the last of them (failing Korriban's tomb and some dialogue could work for that)

[@ulysses5340]

He talks about war brings destruction as if he wasn't aware how dangerous monsters Mandalorians were. Like Kreia says on tomb of Ludo Kreesh: Council's prolonged inaction inevitable led to their downfall.

[@armandoalcb]

Yet, in the Republic of the prequels, the Jedi jumped in the clone wars without a question, to protect the republic. And we all know how the Clone Wars caused the downfall of the Jedi, the republic and the rise of Palpatine. A rock and a hard place indeed

[@dreadrath]

@@armandoalcb The sith do love making those "Checkmate" moves.

[@PapitoQinn]

The Jedi. Not fighting when they should, and fighting when they shouldn't.

[@armandoalcb]

@@PapitoQinn I guess both times it was for the best to the Jedi join the wars. They just sucked at warfare. And they didn't know the power of the dark side. Seriously, know thy enemy. Even Palpatine said if one is to understand the great mistery, one must study all of its aspects, not just the dogmatic narrow view of the Jedi. A Jedi life is sacrifice and war demands sacrifice. Question is what do you do when you have nothing left to sacrifice anymore

[@Raximus3000]

@@armandoalcb Civil war and against an outside force is quite different. The mandalorias were simple, they wanted a war wether they liked it or not it would happen. Civil wars are quite complex on the other hand.

[@viciousrage5548]

Hah a fool that would not defend his republic thinks he can go up against the general and combat veteran of the Mandalorian wars. Foolish as all Jedi have and will be.

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

"Do you know how many worlds were destroyed in those wars?" I mean, just as many planets if not more were going to be destroyed with just 1 war instead of 2 wars...And the Council were just going to let it happen without a care in the world. So not sure what his point was to begin with

[@silverchairsg]

Kavar and Zez Kai Ell: We sense you've killed Master Vrook. Normally this would trigger us to attack, but we feel you've done a tremendous service to the Jedi Order.

[@punishedvenomsnake716]

Definitely my favorite kill in the game. Vrook is such an annoying holier than though bastard.

[@chasehedges6775]

Aren't all the jedi, though?

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@chasehedges6775 dealing in absolutes are we... I'm on to you

[@noahfessenden6478]

@@chasehedges6775 Vrook moreso than others.

[@sambridgers9543]

@@chasehedges6775 Kavar, Lonna Vash, and Zez-Kai-Ell, not so much.

[@cobaltcardsgaming5982]

@Chase Hedges Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell are much happier to see you and initially are much more open to events around them and their mistakes (exiling you, etc). It isn’t until they are reunited with Vrook that they reaction to being against you (which might be more of following the confident, arrogant Vrook rather than simply betraying you.)

[@remainprofane7732]

Vrook: it’s impossible for you to learn the form, it takes year of practice Exile: *flicks lightsaber 45 degrees* Vrook: HOW?? YOU MUST BE STOPPED

[@williamstufflebeam4285]

I love that

[@sambridgers9543]

"Did you kill Vrook?" "Yes." "What did it cost?" "Everything."

[@markl5998]

Even though I like the max FP increase it always sucks getting chewed out

[@sambridgers9543]

@@markl5998 And you have come to realized that the consequences for the galaxy are dire.

[@ABFan-bj2uj]

*Forming Bonds, Leeching The Life Of Others, Siphoning Their Will And Dominating Them*

[@Aztechaemenid]

Here's a fun fact that some of may not have known. On the original Xbox, when fighting Vrook and if you don't have a lightsaber (which you likely won't right after Telos) you can run around the compound until Vrook stops following you. Once he's stopped, you can place a crap ton of mines in a corner near you, go back Vrook and he'll just follow you right into mines you placed down killing himself.

[@theblasteffect4499]

You can do this when fighting kreia too

[@frzferdinand72]

More stubborn than Jolee, more irritating than Atris

[@HHopebringer]

Jolee at least had good reason for the stubbornness. Vrook was far, far less sympathetic.

[@Phatooine]

So the mercenaries didn't take away Vrook's lightsaber when they captured him?

[@vincegalila7211]

Presumingly he just force grabbed it while they weren't looking.

[@darkstar4982]

“Only through him can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi”

[@willek1335]

These are not the droids you're looking for. These are not the droids we're looking for.

[@SpiritualJD12887]

Probably Jedi mind tricked them into handing over to him. Remember he WANTED to be captured but he isn't stupid

[@sambridgers9543]

To those of you that hated Vrook, but wished that Kavar and Zez-Kai-Ell could live, was it really worth it?

[@NumbingDisasterAnon]

Zez-Kai-Ell is without a doubt the most disappointing one. He was so close to making the same discovery, had the answer right in front of him for years. But yet he did not see it, not due to stubbornness or devotion to an ideology...but by choosing to be blind

[@ArvelDreth]

@@NumbingDisasterAnon I'm of the opinion that Vrook convinced Zez that The Exile had to be killed. Zez probably more or less knew the truth deep down but didn't have the spine to stand up to Vrook under those circumstances.

[@sambridgers9543]

@@ArvelDreth As for Kavar, I think he figured that it wasn't worth trying to argue with Vrook.

[@Jokie155]

It's probably the biggest problem I have with the game as a whole, that the illusion of choice is so fragile that one step off the specific light path railroads you into full dark according to the other characters. In my TGF lore run, I sided with Vaklu against Queen Talia simply because I had the Exile decide that keeping Onderon in the Republic just wasn't worth the constant fighting and bitterness. But the game has decreed that Vaklu is bad, and everyone will now hate you and even the dialogue choices turn sadistic. And then it's yet another wonderful session of being lectured to the point of boredom about choices I didn't make by excess dialogue incarnate, just because it was written to be far too strict on the binary system. I love a lot about KotOR 2, but that sticking point is so very hard to get over.

[@sambridgers9543]

@@Jokie155 Yeah, it can be hard to play as a neutral character in KOTOR 2.

[@ChrisPoindexter98]

A viable _possible_ canon, is Meetra killing him but making it difficult, even impossible for the Mercenaries, despite such a "Light Side Later" move, and letting the other Masters live. It'll still lead to Zez-Kai and Kavar trying to kill you at the Enclave, but you can still end the game on the Light Side.

[@Fizz-Pop]

This guy is harder than the final fight. Trickly little bastard.

[@lettow4372]

Throughout both games this old man and this old man only - always got under my skin.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Reminds of a certain pink clothed teacher from Harry Potter Yes, for her name escapes me for good reason, my brain trying to protect it's self

[@lilthommodt]

Delores Umbridge. Me and mine call her dumbridge. Simply for her stubborn ignorance.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Daniel Thompson the one time who I openly chanted “BURN THE WITCH!”

[@sambridgers9543]

@@lilthommodt Even Vrook wasn't as much a prick as Dolores.

[@lilthommodt]

@@sambridgers9543 what can ya say? She's a tough act to follow. At least Vrook was standing up for what he believed in. Albeit wrong. He wasn't willingly selling the world out.

[@sambridgers9543]

@@lilthommodt Exactly.

[@_shir0gan379]

That lady voice acting in the beginning is the same person who voices a female smuggler in SWTOR!

[@cataclysmicacedia824]

I know I shouldn't laugh. But I did.

[@bullseye5262]

He lowkey reminds me of a preacher I once knew...

[@BlackDiamond2718]

The only jedi master I wanted to take down.

[@jimhuffman9434]

After seeing what a jackass he was in KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2, Vrook's death was so satisfying

[@gazof-the-north1980]

He was the hardest Jedi Master to fight.

[@jtsharp6129]

If you go to Dantooine first, then yes. If you still play, do the planets in this order: Dxun/Onderon Nar Shaddaa. Or Korriban Korriban or Nar Shaddaa Dantooine Then go back to Dxun to do the Freedon Nadd mission. (Take Mandalore and Bao-Dur. But be sure Bao-Dur is a Jedi. If you are a female character, have Deciple be leader or if a male, Handmaiden. They both need to be Jedi. Will help out a lot. Then when you go to Onderon for the civil war mission, take Either Atton or Visas.) Atton would be better since you can make him a Jedi real quick. Plus He'll be stronger than Visas. The attack on Telos is short and quick so take whomever you want.

[@TheSkully343]

But if Vrook dies what will happen to his pet Llama?

[@itwontcomeout5678]

He gets adopted by Kendrick Llamar

[@HHopebringer]

@@itwontcomeout5678 A llama?! He's supposed to be dead!!!

[@Phaden27]

I recognize Maureen from Full Throttle anywhere. That first merc is Kath Soucie.

[@PapitoQinn]

I'm not sure which character you mean. But Kath Soucie didn't do any voice work for KoTOR 2. She did do some for The Old Republic MMO.

[@ABFan-bj2uj]

*Caution Instead Of Action…* Lamar: A Star Wars Story

[@MTRON-lq3rx]

I hate Vrook, he is Danzou from KOTOR

[@sergioplazat3995]

4:41 ...... Mi parte favorita😈👍

[@daviddavidson9923]

This is canon to me

[@rockrock1409]

Good or bad the Jedi turn on you so might well kill them and take there powers.. It funny you become stronger doing dark side things in the game

[@coinkidink9997]

That's the point...The Dark Side gives you "more" power but at a greater cost.

[@rockrock1409]

@@coinkidink9997 why I always try kill every one.. good or bad to rank up experience points to spend lol

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@rockrock1409 You actually tend to gain more experience when you go lightside (usually; there's normally more quests & more enemies, not to mention more small chances to gain experience).

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

For someone who’s a master, he fights like a “Vrookie”. Hehe.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Goodbye, KotOR's slight take on Mace Windu... and also RIP Ed Asner.

[@blackeagle041]

Is it confirmed that the force drain the exile uses here, is identical to Nilhus's?

[@PapitoQinn]

It's not. But it can be in time.

[@csvickers151]

Just out of interest can you still kill vrook and keep the other masters to meet at the enclave later on and still stay in the light.? If so does anyone know or remember how this plays out??

[@Mr-Tibbster]

The other Jedi learn of it, and declare you to be a traitor and try to kill you when they gather at the Enclave.

[@itwontcomeout5678]

Unfortunately, no. I think you actually still get to stay on the light side, but the game script forces you to kill the other two good masters because they believe you are actually evil for killing vrook at all. Sigh....

[@sigmabean2463]

No where in killing him do you even gain dark side points

[@OGSpaceMarine]

Oh good im glad I wasn't the only one who did this but I did it as a good guy to get the Jedi master robe because no other way to get it

[@JimmySpace69]

Extremely Based 💪

[@sambridgers9543]

Still less satisfying than Pong Krell.

[@sambridgers9543]

Seriously, even Revan would be disgusted by that Besalisk.

[@John-Stark]

@@sambridgers9543 Hell MALGUS would be disgusted, at least he takes care of his troops!

[@sambridgers9543]

@@John-Stark I imagine that in hell, the other Sith Lords are so disgusted by Krell, they killed him again, and then tea bagged his corpse.

[@shavoidpatrick1602]

The sith the darkside it is of the dark side interesting

[@Yothirjgdit9595]

Ms.Dvorak: Vrook Ms.Martin: Atris Only I understand this joke

[@lifelessperson1993]

Can you just kill Vrook and leave the other two?

[@PapitoQinn]

Yes you can. You can even kill Vrook but still side with Khoonda. I have a video that can show you how. However once you gather the rest of the Jedi at the enclave they will turn on you because you killed Vrook.

[@ABFanTheStarWarsFanboyWillSave]

I don’t hate Vrook! Atris is a framing Jedi lady who framed Kreia! She even wanted to kill Meetra Surik! Vitiate was the real reason Revan fell, NOT Kreia.

[@Mr-Tibbster]

Revan fell long before he met Vitiate. It was his actions at Malachor V, the end of the Mandalorian wars, which was the tipping point and moment he fell. It was his fall that caused him to search for forbidden knowledge and the Star Forge afterward, and that journey lead him to discover the hidden Sith Emperor as an unintended side effect, of which by the time he "pledged himself" to him, and then returned as "Darth Revan", though really he was trying to kill the Emperor. Revan wanted to make his own Sith Empire with the Star Forge as a way to beat Vitiate's Empire (and is why he wanted to keep certain systems in the Republic intact as Kreia and GO-TO mention), but the journey of such corrupted him, which played into the Emperor's hands, which is why he ended up enslaved by him, he tried to beat fire with fire and got burned.

[@DarkKing009]

Vrook Lamar is cool an old man I like him