The Expanse 3x13 REACTION!! "Abaddon's Gate"

Eric Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 3 episode 13 of The Expanse - Abaddon's Gate - #TheExpanse
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[@BlindWave]

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[@Yesquire0]

A wondrous storyline is brought to a sublimely beautiful and thrilling conclusion, one carefully nurtured and developed over three seasons: Diogo gets his face wiped off of his smirk.

[@pali1d]

A small detail that I don't think anyone's noted here yet: when Clarissa/Melba shuts down the power, she does so using a method shown to her by the older mechanic that she murdered in episode 7. That guy being nice and willing to teach her gave her the knowledge she needed to shut down the Behemoth. It's a great little callback that easily flies under the radar, and one of a million examples of this show paying attention to detail and providing setup for later events.

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

I caught this the first time I saw it and it was such a great conclusion to her arc as a villain.

[@pali1d]

@Darkstar True, though it's entirely possible to teach without being nice, and he chose to be nice while teaching. Her killing a man who was nothing but nice to her was the first chink in her emotional armor, the first thing she felt guilty for doing, which opened the doorway for her eventual redemption.

[@hank7661]

I feel like no one mentioned it because it was a bit obvious

[@techmage89]

@Darkstar He is kind of being nice, because he realizes that she's unqualified for the work she's supposed to do, but he covers for her and teaches her as much as he can instead of ratting her out.

[@corriblehunt4554]

That's not a small detail. It was pretty blatant and a big chekhov's gun

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Been waiting to tell this joke. Remember back when Diogo's uncle threw him out the airlock and left him floating in space? He was just hoping to catch a lift. 😀

[@Zombu47]

Get out...

[@gormviking6286]

@@Zombu47 He did. Hung out in space for a while, too :D

[@Zombu47]

@@gormviking6286 Touche

[@dandydeadpool]

I think the reason I love Ashford so much is because his actions this episode aren't that of some one dimensional villain, he's doing what he can with the concrete information he has and not trusting in someone who, in his mind, is untrustworthy. He has no demonstrable proof that all the crazy shit that Holden is saying is true, and doesn't feel that he can act on it. He's incredibly stubborn its true, but that only endears him to me!

[@kingdancekiller]

Ashford in the show is miiiiiiles ahead of book Ashford.

[@georgioschrysikopoulos5417]

“Gonna need a ride.” The whole ending sequence (from when Clarissa shuts the final reactor down until the end of the episode) is one of the most amazing and awe-inspiring moments of television ever made. Visuals, music, dialogue all send chills down my spine.

[@ldougherty1572]

Absolutely amazing. I love when Ashford tells them to shoot Holden and Naomi, but then she redeems herself and smashes Ashford's head into the viewscreen. What's funny is that I'm not even sure if it's the best scene of the season. The Agatha King mutiny certainly gives it a run for its money. This season is so good!

[@nottopcat5956]

Me too. Very rarely get chills from a show, but that scene of the rings opening was 👌

[@DoddyIshamel]

When you remember it could have been the last sequence of the expanse it is particularly poignant.

[@BipolarBLKSheep]

She also shut the system down by doing what that guy told her about at the beginning of the season. Just before she crushed his skull and shoved him into a wall compartment. Such a fantastic show! I hope they release season 4 reaction soon! This show is by far my favorite but season 3 was one of the best seasons of any sci-fi show I've ever seen.

[@hazri8758]

Best ever television show 😭

[@danj4842]

This is my favorite season of television ever. Basically two 6 episode storylines that both pay off. Just amazing.

[@MotelsonMars]

Rick waving at Chrisjen at the end... priceless.

[@Braincleaner]

I love Ashford, this show knows how to make an antagonist *not* be a villain. in Ashfords mind he was saving the human race/Sol System and for a short time he had to go back to the pirate he used to be to make sure that happened, his actions are selfless. JP Mao is the closest the show has come to having an actual "bad guy"(and you could debate the case for Mao as well) and i love it for that.

[@watchvids8214]

Whaddabout Strickland? Or does he count as just a piece of trash and not an antagonist?

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@watchvids8214 even Strickland, even if he was a coward piece of shit, the scope of what he was trying to do probably was worth all the shit he was doing.

[@ezrawyrd9275]

@@danilooliveira6580 ehhhhhh Strickland was a sociopath torturing children for the vaguest idea of scientific advancement, he was on the same level of Nazi doctors imo. Mao, too, was trying to privatize first contact and slaughtered a hundred thousand belters to do it which is just remarkably evil. Just because these guys say they're doing things for the good of humanity or whatever doesn't make it true

[@ezrawyrd9275]

There's a lot of morally grey characters in the show, and good guys and bad guys can depend on your perspective, but there are absolutely villains of the story.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@ezrawyrd9275 and a lot of the discoveries nazi had with their horrible experiments are still used to this day. that is the point, they thought the barbarities were worth the discovery of what a alien molecule capable of bending the laws of physics was capable of. for them every single life they took was worth it for the end goal. so they were villains with a clear goal that make some sense, they were not evil just for the sake of being evil.

[@annapires991]

“I’m so glad this stupid idiot is here!” LOL if that doesn’t illustrate how our feelings change abt these dozen of characters trough this show! I love the final shot of Drummer and Ashford, love Anna and Amos, love that hated Melba / Clarissa is in the right place the right time… for a show built around worldbuilding, is the characters that hold the whole thing together and is great

[@Kevakazii]

It also proves how fickle we are and how easily we forget lol.

[@CaesiusX]

@@Kevakazii 🤔Or. . .perhaps, how forgiving? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 😁

[@chewieknievel8439]

Not going to say more than I can’t wait till they meet Peaches. Characters are never truly good or evil. They’re truly complex characters that find themselves in hopeless situations and they are just making what they think is the best choice. (You can even say that about characters we have in season 5. Everyone thinks they are making the right choices for those they care for. But emotions make thinking less clear.) Love it so much.

[@biocapsule7311]

*Just in case they read this:* It's information from the books but wasn't made clear in the show (at least I don't recall). Putting aside the proto-molecule in Sol system came billions of years ago and therefore have limited information about what happen. The rings space system has no idea what happened either. The Visions shows that the proto-molecule civilization starts dying suddenly, systems by systems, slowly but surely. And the system has no idea what is going on, it tried everything. Including destroying systems by nova. Nothing worked, so in the end the system decide to shut down everything and when into siege mod, hoping whatever is happening stops. It is waiting for the all clear from the rest of the civilization which never came. Billions of years later the Earth side established contact and give the system a chance to reset or lift the security protocol. But it is still in siege mod, so every perceive attack by humans are met with increasing security response. It isn't a 'test' so much as for the system to reset, it has to determine there is no longer any threat.

[@murielkramer7674]

And it's still trying to figure out what happened, waiting for the all clear to lift the quarantine. Hence the Investigator, reaching out one hundred and thirteen times a second, yet nothing answers and it still reaches out. Miller saying he needs a ride forshadows that the nucleus wants to send out the Investigator to one of the systems (Ilus), to try to find out how it died. What Holden saw in the Ring gate wasn't protomolecule, it was something else. Spoiler: The investigator wouldn't have found out without human eyes SEEING it.

[@VulcanCafe]

Rings opening is one of my favorite tv moments of all time.

[@VenoRPG]

We finally got here! The gates opening is always such a jaw dropping moment!

[@JoX1231]

When I got to the end of this episode for the first time I thought, "so THIS is the Expanse".

[@francb1634]

This was the series finale up until Amazon stepped in to save the show.

[@wemustdissent]

sorta saved. It went downhill after this imo. Season 4 was a bit boring and Season 5 felt disconnected from the main story.

[@Watsisface]

@@wemustdissent Disagree, but it's not like Amazon has creative control over the series now (which is a good thing). Seasons 4 and 5 are still largely faithful to the source material, and the book authors are heavily involved in the making of the show.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@wemustdissent for me S4 suffers from the same problems of S3, it felt a bit longer than it was supposed to be. history wise it was kinda bugging me how manufactured all the conflict felt, for the most part Murtry felt like an asshole just for the sake of being an asshole. but the overarching plot of the season was cool. while Season 5 its amazing in a system wide way, but I can't like the... lets say, script ?. I can't like Marco Inaros at all and he seems too much of a genius for how stupid his actions were, and I feel it miss a wider shot of the political impact of everything he was doing instead of focusing on the main cast.

[@william9170]

I thought season 4 was a step down from the first 3 but still really enjoyable. Season 5 didn't even feel like the same show and made some horrible decisions with some characters. Not looking forward to season 6 because of this.

[@wemustdissent]

@@william9170 yeah that is how I felt as well but I'm willing to give it a chance. Overall taken as a whole the show is really good.

[@chronos1111]

Season 3 of the Expanse is probably the best season out of any series i've ever watched - looking forward to S4/S5 reactions guys!

[@mattjofre]

Very good point about the Martian identity, you'll see those themes explored later in the show.

[@collecter343]

Knew they would love that elevator scene after seeing how much they dislike Diogo haha.

[@ZakhadWOW]

a true testament to the actor making the character real, and not a caricature.

[@jimbob2252]

This show and Black Sails are criminally underrated

[@william9170]

Black sails got better every season but I can't say the same for the Expanse. Season 5 was such a disappointment for me.

[@GDRaptorFan13]

Nikki and Steven are watching Black Sails right now and their reactions are fantastic! Nice to see new people pick it up every once in awhile- best show ever. I found Blind Wave due to their Black Sails reactions which were great as well. Nikki and Steven are so excited and don’t miss much- the next two weeks they get to the end of season two! Can’t wait!

[@eu_o_andy]

@@william9170 I loved S5 of The Expanse, I really don't get why some ppl don't ksojisjs I think both 4 and 5 are amazing

[@zammmerjammer]

If I had a planet of my very own, I would name it George. And I would hug it and squeeze and love it.

[@tango31313]

😂😂

[@billross7245]

Diogo = Wile E. Coyote Naomi = Roadrunner Elevator made by ACME

[@cs3473]

My understanding is that the thing Holden saw as they were going through the ring at the end was a glimpse of whatever being/entity it was that destroyed the Ringbuilder's Civilization. Also, I'm glad you have finally got to this point. I think this is one of the best season finales ever in my opinion. I was awed by the moment the gates started opening and given how well they did the world building for the series just beside myself at how the proverbial sandbox changed in that moment.

[@ZakhadWOW]

"THE EXPANSE" is referring to that space inside the rings with the station. That "expanse" is what allows access to so much more of space.

[@CitroChannel]

So, who's ready for the fookin' legend of Gin Alley?

[@MotelsonMars]

Can you believe you ever thought this show might not be an "S"?

[@rostikskobkariov5136]

i agree, It's S but next season is the slowest in my opinion. Then it picks up real fast after S5E3

[@chaost4544]

@@rostikskobkariov5136 you're right it's probably the slowest but it's still pretty good.

[@rostikskobkariov5136]

@@chaost4544 it is. I’ve rewatched this show more than any other. It’s my favorite.

[@MellyMelon1331]

The show is one of my absolute favs for sure. Def one of, if not the best sci-fi show

[@ldougherty1572]

@@rostikskobkariov5136 It's a bit slower, but it's still really great. The perfect season to binge all at once in my opinion. It doesn't have the climactic feel of seasons 3 and 5 that made them perfect for a weekly release, but the amazing world building, dialogue, and characters are still there.

[@MK68-419]

Another blood-soaked goldrush, I remember how I felt when I first heard those words. Like manifest destiny was for the Americas is what the human race is doing to those systems, who knows what aliens already habitate some of those planets or what planets could have dangerous bacteria and disease. Eerily similar to early earth expeditions to different continents.

[@shinokugt]

One of the things I love most about this show, and seeing the reactions from you guys, is how many characters have such fully developed personal arcs. From Amos to Drummer to Bobby to Ashford, even Clarissa/Melba/Peaches

[@thechurn4766]

When this aired, they did not know they were getting more seasons. This was written as a possible series final. Because of the uncertain status, the show runners made the decision to make each season line up with a book where in the first three seasons, that was not the case. That way if they got the chance to go further, each new season would be at a possible ending point.

[@amarokorama]

Incorrect. First, this was not written as a "possible series finale". Not according to an interview with showrunner Naren Shankar by Entertainment Weekly. Second, by the time this aired, they absolutely knew they were getting more seasons, because Amazon had picked up the show by then.

[@bartschaap6236]

@@amarokorama they weren't sure there was going to be a season 4 when it was written and filmed though

[@sparrowlt]

@@amarokorama yeah but even so the entire saga is writen in 3 chapters.. every chapter 3 books.. so this concluded the first and it could work actually as a kinda end of the show.. season 6 will end the second chapter and it will be (at least for now) the end of the show ... hopefully in the near future they will adapt the final 3 books into the final chapter

[@amarokorama]

@@bartschaap6236 It's standard operating procedure for TV show writers to not be sure if there'll be a next season.

[@amarokorama]

@@sparrowlt I agree with you that the 9 books of the Expanse series would make a neat "trilogy of trilogies". But the authors specifically denied that. Straight from James S.A. Corey's twitter: "I've seen yous guys say The Expanse is going to be 9 books. Should we think of it as 3 trilogies?" - "3 duologies and then a trilogy". This means that book 3 Abbadon's Gate and book 4 Cibola Burn actually belong together as a pair.

[@sallyshipwreck4315]

That vision was our solar system not being destroyed.

[@SyntheticaYT]

Just so you guys know, season 3 was when they thought the show was cancelled, since Syfy didn't renew the show - so the 2nd half of season 3 actually is a whole book, which is is why there is a huge time jump. It's amazing, though. (Luckily, Amazon stepped in and picked up the show).

[@Snoeflekz]

Shooting had already wrapped months before they were cancelled, so it didn’t affect the storytelling at all.

[@Kriae]

I really hope they'll adapt the final books some day

[@kingdancekiller]

Time jump? **Laughs in books 7**

[@corvus2512]

In all the shows we have watched them watch, ive never seen them this stressed, invested, tense and desperate to know whats happening, its great!

[@ldougherty1572]

During Seasons 1-3, the seasons didn't correspond directly with the books. Book 1 (Leviathan Wakes) ends in S2E05 "Home," Book 2 (Caliban's War) ends in S3E06 "Immolation," and Book 3 (Abaddon's Gate) ends in S3E13 "Abaddon's Gate." That's why the S3 finale is the first one that actually feels like a finale--the book ends there. However, from this point forward, each season represents one book, so each finale will feel similar to this finale. Season 4 covers Book 4 (Cibola Burn), Season 5 covers Book 5 (Nemesis Games), and the upcoming Season 6 will cover Book 6 (Babylon's Ashes).

[@murielkramer7674]

Even then the timelines and people get mixed up, best example is Michio Pa/Drummer, and the Free Navy Plot, originally in Babylons Ashes, but already shown in season 5. And some things happening in Nemesis Games, that didn't make it to the series (like Prime Minister Nathan 'Nate' Smith). But they did an amazing job in the script and created a wonderfully fascinating series.

[@Triskaan]

Now imagine if the show had ended there...

[@bobriemersma]

Actually it sort of did. From here on we have a smaller slow paced fanservice sort of thing. Sad really. I wish I knew where it went wrong.

[@shinokugt]

@@bobriemersma They just followed the books, and started a whole new story arc based on them. Nothing went wrong.

[@shinokugt]

@@tomaszenko13 No, after what they're covering from the books up through season 6, there's a big time jump - which is why they're ending it there (at least for the near future)

[@Jmespo83]

@@shinokugt I doubt very much the time skip is the reason they are “ending” it. Ty and Dan have had interviews where they mentioned Naren had a plan in place to take care of the time jump, so I doubt it was their decision.

[@Jmespo83]

@@tomaszenko13 agreed. Show only watchers may not see it as a big deal, but having read the books and knowing what comes after season 6 it’s a huge bummer thinking about it not being adapted.

[@Timmayytoo]

Clarissa/Melba was trying to kill Holden because she blamed him for her father going to jail and the dismantling of her family's corporation, but she finally accepted the fact that Holden was actually trying to save everyone and her father was to blame for so much of the bad stuff that happened. I agree that characters dying offscreen is lame but it's important to remember that this is still a TV show, so they do have limits on their budget, which means they can't just show tons of specific people dying when the ships were stopped abruptly just because it would be cool, and the blind cameraman is ultimately a bit player. I love how much you guys love the show but Eric's shouting is gonna get me evicted cuz I constantly have to adjust the volume.

[@streaky81]

Remember how the protomolecule doesn't activate unless it finds life to steal from, on an inert uninhabitable planet it stays inert. If you conclude that every ring had life that it found to activate the ring then you must also conclude that every ring has leads to a system that has life therefore to one degree or another must be habitable - doesn't necessarily mean habitable for humans, although it may be possible the are ground rules for what is actually habitable. At some stage, there was life on the other side. Some of it was a threat and those rings aren't accessible. This episode is amazing, the bit at the end still gives me goosebumps, and there's so much potential there. It was also where we would have ended if it wasn't for the community and Jeff Bezos being somewhat of a fan of the books (and presumably the show). Also shout out to Clinton Shorter; his music does heavy lifting in scenes that don't actually need it which elevates everything to a whole other level.

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

This show just gets better and better. Love watching everyone's reactions every show.

[@Kennia1998]

favorite show, loved the reaction

[@erichaws6788]

I just noticed something for the first time after so many rewatches! When Clarissa turns sides, rushes Ashford, then goes to the power box, she switches the power cells around. That's the thing that her menotr in the first episode warns her about. She uses that to save everyone. That's so cool!

[@LeeCarlson]

One of my favorite lines is "Now I know why you don't carry a gun." And in Season Four there is another scene that reiterates that point (which I shall not spoil).

[@HaaruteLIVE]

2:46 I love that the Mortal Kombat Annihilation ball hasn't been forgotten and continues to be brought up.

[@arliss123]

"They got the lift working". LOLOLOLOLOL One of the best group's reaction shot ever!!

[@krbkrbkrbkrbkrb]

The correct name for Clarissa Mao is "Peaches."

[@LeeCarlson]

And the reason that "Abbadon's Gate" actually feels like a "finale" is because this was when SyFy decided to cancel the series before they were picked up by Amazon.

[@zaincassis2612]

This is the most suspenseful show ever.

[@TheLadyLuck523]

Love that you're loving this show! It is SO good and I hope more people get to watch it.

[@yalenayardeen2925]

The Expanse is that show. That goes from I have no idea what's happening to Man I fucking love this show. The amount of times I've heard you guys sat I love this show

[@thomashiggins9320]

So, now a lot of what they set up back in Season 1 comes to fruition. To connect the different solar systems across such vast distances, the ring-space cannot exist in normal space-time. It has to be a little, "pocket-universe" of its own. For the proto-molecule ring-builder system to work, it must be able to connect to the ring-space station. That means the proto-molecule does not perceive time as *linear*, since it's in communication with something that exists outside of linear space-time. Ergo, the reason the proto-molecule used the bird in the first season, was because it knew the bird had emotional significance to Miller. When Julie Mao saw Miller with the hat and the bird at the end of her life, she perceived Miller not as he was when he found her body, but as he perceived himself in his own mind. That's because the proto-molecule had access to Miller's mind, even though it hadn't "yet" assimilated him into its gestalt. Moreover, it used those assets, as needed, to accomplish its goals. When Miller found "Seed-Crystal Julie," she said he belonged with her. That had a romantic interpretation, and that's how the actors played it, and it kind of worked because Seed-Crystal Julie already had intimate knowledge of Miller's mind. However, because it made use of Miller's experiences, it *had* to assimilate him, at that point, to avoid temporal paradox. Miller, quite literally, *belonged* with the proto-molecule gestalt. After that, the gestalt needed to investigate what happened to its creators, and humans were a potentially useful means by which it could do so. So, it used Miller's absorbed consciousness to create, "The Investigator," to have a way to interface with humanity, by way of tinkering with Holden's mind. Once humanity proved itself capable of acting in an non-threatening way, the station opened the ring-gates so humanity had a way to further its investigation. And, now we see the overarching story of this series -- the transition of humanity from confinement in a single Solar System, to an interstellar civilization. That's one of *the hardest* storylines to pull off, and most space science-fiction authors never even try. Usually, they set something in near-future space, or they set a story well after humanity has achieved interstellar travel, but they tend to avoid the complex story about the shift -- and all the mad repercussions and profound changes such a transition would initiate. Remember, this was the last episode for SyFy; the network cancelled the show, after this. So, this was meant to put a decent wrap on the whole series. After this was shot, Amazon Prime picked up the show for three more seasons, but SyFy got a nice wrap. Good stuff gentlemen, although I could've done without the three-legged race stuff. :)

[@LeeCarlson]

The protomolecule computer in the core doesn't know what finally happened to destroy the builders and so it is sending The Investigator to find out.

[@MK68-419]

Here, here for the king of Flavor Town, Eric!

[@jake_5464]

This season was so damn good! Glad you guys have been enjoying it.

[@KingKing-cz6xh]

Can’t wait for them to see what the shadow at the end is

[@shamsham1229]

We still haven’t found out. TV viewers, that is.

[@KingKing-cz6xh]

@@shamsham1229 i know that’s why I said see I.e the last episode of season 5

[@Kennia1998]

@@shamsham1229 i'm reading book 7 and i still don't know what it is lmao

[@henriquejambu]

Ooooh I need to catch up, I’m still in the beginning of s2! Really love your discussions for this show

[@jamesholland5761]

Great reaction to a great episode! Thanks guys!

[@billross7245]

This episode was non stop action but I love the little details they throw in like Drummer turning off her mag boots to relieve her spine and seeing her expression of relief. I find moments like that so relatable as well as her relationship with Noami.

[@hcwm2]

Remember, the protomolecule needs biomass in order to build a ring. That makes every system with a ring a habitable one by definition. Now, that means habitable for some form of life, not necessarily human life. And the rings are billions of years old. Maybe something cataclysmic happened in the meantime and viability for life is gone now. But you can assume that the majority of those systems still has something useful for humans to find.

[@sghitza1]

The best episode in The Expanse series!

[@jpat2493]

This is by far one of the best SF shows out there. You guys reactions are great.

[@Adventuresundead302]

For real I’m can’t find another good sci-fi show like the expanse.

[@jpat2493]

@@Adventuresundead302 it has one of the best casts working right now, and sets the bar really high.

[@Adventuresundead302]

Yeah I’m just sad season 6 is the last season.

[@fuzzytabby4304]

Amazon say they are done after season 6 but I hope and pray that someone else picks it up!

[@GDRaptorFan13]

Wes said on his podcast I believe that there will be movies to finish the story!

[@TheOriginalHairyDave]

Spoiler territory if you've not read the books, but there's a BIG time jump from book six to seven so stopping there for a while makes sense. Going further is going to need some serious make-up work or a complete recast.

[@bartschaap6236]

@@GDRaptorFan13 seems unlikely since Ty said he didn't like movies as a way of adapting books

[@ruthhuang9308]

Seeing how invested in the show the guys are gives me life

[@abstractnonsense3253]

"Was this the test?" I think the protomolecule civilization is so advanced that it treats human beings as our immune system treats microbes.

[@xyr3s]

and with that ending we had to wait basically 2 years for season 4 lol.

[@ZakhadWOW]

I first saw THomas Jane in "Dreamcatcher", a brilliant movie adaptation of the King novel. I then saw him in "Hung", but only in THIS show has he massively blown me away. Also, I would kill to have a furry chest like his.

[@detrix42]

The storyline, the acting, the post-production of this series, has made this show my all time number one series. In my opinion this series sorta makes up for Firefly getting canceled so quickly, in that this show would have been done here, if not for Amazon picking it up. The storyline and acting in Firefly would have been this good, in my opinion. This ends the first trilogy. So season 4, steps back the pace, to set up for the next trilogy. This show just gets better and better. p.s. suck to think that season 6 will be the last season. I want you to hurry, but nope, stretch it out.

[@murielkramer7674]

The gates are open and the gold rush begins. And the investigator gets send to find out what killed the system wide hive mind. "We have these 1300 systems, this is a godsend to the Belters" -Eric "What does it mean to the Martian identity?" "This is NEW Earth, New Mars,... New new new new new new new new New York" All the new worlds and alien planets, I'm looking forward to their reaction to the reactions from Earth, Mars and the Belt/Fractions. ;)

[@_PatrickStar]

i told myself i would switch to one episode a week in order to stay paced with you guys, but ive got to continue this story!

[@sueoshea2131]

The creature between/in the gate isn't miller

[@acereporter73]

Drummer IS determination.

[@LeeCarlson]

Actually, in The Expanse, any star system is "habitable" if the Belters can find any resources from which to build stations, and so saying 1300 systems does NOT mean that all of those systems have Goldilocks worlds, however, there is no reason to believe that they don't.

[@wemustdissent]

My interpretation of it was that this civilization shot out protocmolecule randomly all over the galaxy. If the protomolecule encountered mass from planets/biologics it could utilize it would harvest it and build a ring. That ring would lead just to the station. The station would analyze the other side and assess threat. If it assessed no threat then it would open that gate up to the rest of the network so that the civilization could go there and colonize. If it did detect a threat rather than open up to the full network it would power up and destroy the sun in that system to basically cauterize the threat. It was a fully automated process designed to spread the civilization through a jump-gate network and colonization while minimizing possible blowback from opening a gate to a dangerous area that could reverse-invade them.

[@sparrowlt]

i understand that they targeted protosystems or young systems with very basic primitive life at best..

[@wemustdissent]

@@sparrowlt why would they do that though? That doesn't benefit them. I can see why they would be indifferent to "lower" life and not care about it being wiped out but why would they intentionally target life? Wouldn't that just be an unnecessary hassle?

[@loupgarou95]

@@wemustdissent Because they needed systems with life. Although they were non-human, it seems they still needed the same basic requirements for supporting life. They wanted primitive life forms since those would be easier to colonize for obvious reasons.

[@SirOctaviusII]

Are you guys gonna react to the dune trailer?

[@Fuar11]

this was my favorite episode

[@sparrowlt]

And you had to watch 3 seasons to finally get to the point where the series gets its name

[@toms169]

God, Melba is so beautiful! 😍 Hatred for her actions in those earlier episodes never overshadowed that 😅

[@ThePrelude2life]

I know this is 2 years old now but Melba's redemption arc is so lit. She and Amos are my fav

[@Luzarioth]

We, in the now, can look at the light emited from a planet 5 million light years ago and have a good understanding of its atmosphere... so.... seeing if those planets are habitable seems likes childsplay

[@anonymes2884]

For reference, a light year is a measure of distance not time (so "light years ago" doesn't make sense).

[@jbutler8585]

Ooo, one of those post-episode speculations was not only absolutely correct, it also directly connects to the S5 cliffhanger.

[@sverebom7069]

And that's where the show almost ended. And it would have been good and worthy ending to the journey up to this point. Actually though the journey only just started. The whole story is separated into three arcs, each consisting of three books. You have just finished the first arc, which is why it feels like a conclusion. As with everything about The Expanse every conclusion also opens a door. Luckily you will able to step through the next door. A word about what Holden might know: When he was connected to the station, he was connected to the entire Ring Builder civilization across the aeons. He knows a lot about the Ring Builders, but not necessarily everything.

[@amarawinchester963]

Have you watched "12 monkeys" the series? You must!

[@xyr3s]

yea it's quite enjoyable. for me it's up there with fringe, person of interest, doll house and travelers

[@Johmpa]

I like that you appreciate this show. This was indeed the place the series would have ended and that would have been such a shame. It's cool that you are thinking ahead and considering many aspects of the implications of what the ring gates opening will have. Several of the things you speculated on will be issues going forward.

[@MAORISMURF20]

Goddamn.. I can't believe we're here! Only two more seasons to go! There's still a lot more awesome to come Habitable systems = 1300! Still... what did Holden see at the end?

[@kallemort]

Thankfully by the time they finish season 5, season 6 should be close.

[@bartschaap6236]

@@kallemort If season 6 releases at the same date season 5 did it will allign perfectly and they will be able to watch the first episode of season 6 one week after the finale of season 5 (If my calculations are right).

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

1367 gates if I remember correctly. (It has been a while since I read the books)

[@collecter343]

SPOILER Give or take 2

[@Wolva10]

ahh the space in between space. give it time

[@LordTelperion]

The unknown aggressors in the spaces in-between.

[@mrkai970]

Not sure if its just for me, but is it possible you guys could turn the video volume up a little more for future posts? My youtube is full volume and yet I can barely hear it thru the speakers

[@MrJethroha]

All of the systems on the other sides of the rings need to have encountered organic material in order to build themselves, so when their ring was constructed at least there had to be planets int eh goldlocks zone for life to form. However, you learn in later books that some of the systems were all of their matter has been re-purposed as mysterious megastructures, so there are no planets at all, let alone habitable ones.

[@ShaunRF]

Did you notice that the way Melba/Clarissa shut down power on the ship was the same way that was taught to her by her boss, Ren, the one she had to kill? So sad, but a great payoff to her arc.

[@anonymes2884]

Yeah, this is a nice little detail. Ren was a decent man and ultimately, his kindness and patience with Melba ended up saving humanity. Sad yes but at least his life meant something.

[@Shibo77]

Just drag the paralyzed middle legs like deadweight, they only need the two side legs to move (Edit: Aaron got it)

[@ahdvd]

2 things - 1 - This is where fans were left when syfy cancelled the show. Thank god for amazon prime renewing it. 2 - I originally thought that energy thing in the barrier between space and the ring space was Miller as well... it’s not...

[@anonymes2884]

In fact we could all relax by this point because Amazon had already picked it up the previous month.

[@karin-ph1yn]

I just knew aaron was going to name a planet after himself.😄

[@franciscooctavius5957]

My absolute favorite season of this amazing show.………until S4 and S5 came along. Man do I love this show and these characters! So glad you all really seem to enjoy it. Thanks for the reviews.

[@unknownwarrior5672]

You didn't like 4 and 5?

[@philmarston9078]

why did he look scared? see you in season 4.

[@kingdancekiller]

The thing Holden sees while going through the rings is NOT Miller. It’s not even the protomolecule 🤐

[@Kennia1998]

i'm reading book 8 and i don't even know what that is:(

[@kingdancekiller]

@@Kennia1998 Then read further. It’s literally the crux of the book.

[@kingdancekiller]

@@Kennia1998 It’s the Goths. If you know, you know.

[@Kennia1998]

@@kingdancekiller nooo, spoilers 😔 but its ok I'll get into it soon 🥺

[@kingdancekiller]

@@Kennia1998 Okay okay, I’ll shut up but Tiamat’s Wrath is the best book in the series imo You’re in for a treat.

[@AhsokaTanoTheWhite]

This show and book series is so well written. It's literally the sci-fi version of Outlander. Great story: check! Great characters: check! Great visuals: Check! Nuanced development: check!

[@feraldog5590]

Wait, wasn't this posted last week?

[@nealaluna]

34:14 Eric: "So you get to name a new world. Go!" Neala: "Bob"

[@BhlackBishop]

Mikassa: Ereh

[@moss0170]

this is the time when Syfy dropped the series that's why they did the finale properly cuz it was done. but then amazon picked it up and we got 3 more seasons

[@Randomguy2012vids]

Bobbie: "This is Gunnery Sergeant Roberta Draper Martian Marine Corps! I am ordering you to cease your broadcast, put down your weapons and come out with your hands raised!" Alex: "...Bobbie?" Bobbie: [Pause] [Change Team]

[@craigtuxford5644]

Hey guys, where is your reaction to the latest dune trailer!!. Like it's amazing. You did one for the teaser trailer. Please do one for the new one!

[@Kennia1998]

26:14 HAAHAHAH

[@legionkahn]

This was actually the end of book 3 which is why it feels like a real finale. They crammed all of book 3 into just 8 or so episodes.