The Expanse Season 3 Episode 10 'Dandelion Sky' REACTION!!

Holden sees past, present, and future while a ghost from Melba's past threatens her mission and Bobbie struggles to trust an old friend as she leads a group into uncharted territory. Here's our reaction to season 3, episode 10 of The Expanse.
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[@nokta7373]

Protomolecule be like: "You broke the floor, you become the floor". Also, I always like to point out how the passage through the ring really reflect the three different cultures: the Belters give a rousing speech about courage and destiny and jump through it with their eyes open, guns blazing and ready for anything. The Martians are all businesslike and efficient: send a probe in, see no immediate danger, move through with their warship. The Earthers slowly move in after everybody else with a ship full of artists, scientists and priests shitting their pants. That's the sum up of three different ways of seeing life in one swift moment.

[@golfr-kg9ss]

"You broke the floor, you become the floor", there's a great line in the book where Holden asks Miller: "Did you just turn him into Spackle?" LOL!

[@C76Caravan]

I also like how the passage through the ring is slowly ramping up: Maneo - No showing of passage from inside ship, just splash, camera stays in our solar system Roci - No showing of the passage from inside ship, Black-out, camera "wakes" up inside the ring Martians - No showing of passage from inside ship, camera stays inside the ring while they pass through Belters - No showing of passage from inside ship, camera stays outside the ring while they pass through Earthers (which we viewers of the show are) - Finally we get to see/experience the passage from inside the ship

[@corneliafarm7226]

I never thought of it that way, but that’s awesome!

[@NozomuYume]

@@golfr-kg9ss I always called him "Sgt. Spackle"

[@martinsharrett1872]

Nokta - your an earther.... ;) I think the mindsets more show their perceived views of the situation and how it relates to their personal reality. The belters view themselves as having the least control or power. There for move quickly to claim and hope that means something in the end. And also that whatever they claim doesn't blow up in their faces. Martians standard highly trained professional response from someone with a clear objective and orders to carry them out. Check for threat, no immediate threat detected, move forward to target (holden) at most practical speed. Someone yells "hey look free beer!". Martians on duty yell back "yeah, that's awesome we will have to come back when were off duty and check that out". Earth says I have all the power, all the authority and all the control. Why shouldn't I be as patient as I choose? I've got all the time in the world and all the options. I have no need or interest in risking my assests charging into something that for all I know is a toxic waste spill. Remember, earth still views Mars as a colony of earth just like the brits viewed the colonies in the US as a British territory and British citizens directly under British rule. The belters even more so. Anything the belters or Martians claim earth views as theirs by higher government authority anyway. The only thing about this show that I strongly dislike is the lack of ability, utter lack of training or discipline or willingness to fight in the UN military. I know that is just a narrative device to more easily tell the story. But I don't think it's necessary at all and actually takes away from the realism and story.

[@youngstar312]

I love this quote from the Books by Holden on his way to the station. "It killed humans, therefore it was a weapon. But radiation killed humans, and a medical X-ray machine wasn’t intended as a weapon. Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito."

[@sergusy7005]

Youngstar 999 I wish I could put several likes below this quote. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Haegemon]

Only Laconians figured how to reheat frozen burritos, but not how to build microwaves.

[@cnmsales]

God I wish the next book would get here. Or season 5!

[@misterkite]

There's a shoutout to this part of the book, holden says "monkeys and microwaves?" when gunny is trying to talk to him on the radio.

[@Fin-ou4ik]

@@Haegemon That's a spoiler. You should hide this.

[@Jmespo83]

Man... that scene with Miller talking about falling with Julie gets me every time.

[@lauradawson7964]

Aww, Amos considers Alex to be his cat! 🥰 I absolutely love it when Amos thinks he’s saying something comforting (‘I’ll take you with me’) but he’s actually just freaking people out. 😂

[@rasmuskjrbyepetersen8862]

Good catch with the protomolecule tricking Holden. As Miller said a couple of episodes ago. The protomolecule builds the investigator. When the investigator fails, it kills him and build a new one. When Holden resisted Miller, that version of Miller got scrubbed and replaced with a better, more empathetic version. But it's all to get Holden to do what the protomolecule wants.

[@mangalvnam2010]

The "The Expanse" books are written by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck (the latter an assistant to George R. R. Martin), both under the pseudonym of James S. A. Corey, and was adapted for TV by Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby. Those are the culprits of that mind-blowing sci-fierce ultra-weirdness!

[@murciadoxial8056]

Also the Corey duo are part of hte writing staff.

[@thomashiggins9320]

@@murciadoxial8056 Yep, that was part of the deal when they sold the TV rights. They wanted jobs as script-writers on the show. That's why, even though some things are changed and simplified (for instance, Drummer is a composite of several characters in the books) the story in the TV show still adheres pretty closely to the books. It's also why, even when they make significant alterations -- for instance, Drummer again -- the changes actually turn out so consistently awesome. The original authors have helped tighten *their own story* in the adaptation to television.

[@nokta7373]

@@thomashiggins9320 It's a virtually unique case on television. Usually book writers acts as "consultants" but have very limited influence on what happens in the writing room after a certain point. That's why some TV shows butcher the original content without a care, while in The Expanse everything you see is tight as a tightbeam and will pop up some day some time, even 2 o 3 seasons later.

[@AWSOM817]

You are forgetting the Showrunner Naren Shankar, without him there is no way the authors in the writing room would be cohesive, he is veteran doing Tv Shows in general, Scifi in particular. As long as those three in writing rooms, the books would be translate to screen as entertain as they can.

[@thomashiggins9320]

@watashi He was a good character, in the books, but you've gotta admit, Camina Drummer is more entertaining.

[@Timmayytoo]

Some people here really don't understand the concept of spoilers. *IF THE SHOW HAS NOT EXPLAINED SOMETHING YET, IT IS A SPOILER TO EXPLAIN IT HERE* You guys can debate the semantics of what constitutes a spoiler all day long, but I will tell you from first-hand experience that it makes Stephen very unhappy to have things about the show explained prior to the show getting there. It's really, really simple -- Don't explain something in the show unless Stephen & Nikki explicitly ask for it.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

I'm afraid you are the one who fails to understand. A spoiler is the divulging of details or events *not yet presented,* that will be presented in future episodes. However, explanations of what has *already* been presented are *not* spoilers. In Science Fiction, the point is to get you to *think* about what you have seen. Good SF shows follow the dictum of "Show, don't tell." You are presented with clues and are expected to work out what they mean for yourself. Very seldom is there an info dump included in the next episode that explains all. If that's the sort of storytelling you're into, allow me to suggest you stick to TNG reruns. Explanations of what has already been shown = Fair Game. Explanations of what has *not yet* been shown = Spoilers.

[@thedachmo]

@@TheDetailsMatter if the show hasn't explained it yet, it's for a reason, and to explain it before the show does is to spoil the experience of the explanation. So whilst not spoilers in the sense you mention, it is potentially 'spoiling' it.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@TheDetailsMatter So if the main character has already been shown, I can tell someone everything about that character already? Your logic falls apart very quickly because it is too vague. Just because there are already clues does not mean you can directly focus on it or need to explain people what that clue means. Let them figure that out on their own. Its not like everybody has to be aware of all details right away, everybody can experience an experience how they do. If you want to have people experience what you experienced then that is kind of controlling and egocentric. I am sure it comes from a place of passion but that still requires you to keep yourself in check. Maybe the other persons way of experiencing something can actually make you realise something new that you didnt notice before yourself that you can then appreciate. You wouldnt have that if you just have them experience it the same way you did.

[@Enourmousletters]

@@TheDetailsMatter It's at times like this I wish the dislike button actually did something...

[@TheDetailsMatter]

@@thedachmo So, then, you're still waiting for an in-show explanation of Adam Savage's cameo in season 2, or of the fact that Avasarala, who was referred to in season 2 as "Archangel" by UN security, was shown in season 3 episode 1, perfectly framed against the bright yellow U.N. logo on the wall behind the Secretary General's desk, its laurel leaves surrounding her head, implying she's wearing a halo? I'm afraid you are going to be waiting for a very long time.

[@billross7245]

Ashford was a space pirate captain, they don't take orders, they give 'em. Arrgh! You notice that he's burned, and he said he watched his own child burn. Connection?

[@gawainethefirst]

Bill Ross There are old pirates, and there are bold pirates, but there are no old bold pirates...except Ashford.

[@billross7245]

@@gawainethefirst They also have egos the size of Jupiter. But with age comes wisdom, usually.

[@blackletter2591]

Drummer's pirate connections are pretty sound too. It's not like she doesn't know the bloke.

[@Ugnutz]

Like Lovecraft said "'The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown'.

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

Is desire not an emotion then? Or did Lovecraft not consider it an emotion? Because fear of death is just a... "side effect" of the desire to stay alive which is a consequence of the inherited instinct to stay alive.

[@chris6770]

I hope you're ahead of this episode as, in their enthusiasm to explain what's happening, some folks are spoiling story in their comments. That's not what Firehawks do! Respect Nikki and Steven's journey, they'll get there. Even if it takes watching through the show a few times to appreciate the depth of the writing (audio books for me). Damn they're good, so glad Dan and Ty joined the writers room. That place must be a trip to work in!

[@sabkobds]

Guys, let them think whatever they want... They will get everything right at the end of season. It is OK to correct mistakes (if they don't see something right), but try not to spoil... Nikki & Steven... please try to watch E12 & E13 together - edit later. They are somehow like last 2 episodes of seson 1 (S01E09 & S01E10 - on Eros). Everything from 12 just continues in 13. And they were aired together too. Great wild theories... Keep going... :)

[@danii7584]

next season won't be as much fun sadly... but the upcoming free navy arc in the coming season will be dope af

[@jamesholland5761]

@@danii7584 I don't understand? I've enjoyed all seasons including season 4.

[@nickrubin7312]

​ @James Holland ahh, people cry for no reason, it was good and a good change of pace as well, you can't always increase speed

[@nickrubin7312]

while this is correct, it would be interesting to hear which questions they have that they expect to get answers to and what is not clear/tough to understand, because when Nikki says "I hope questions will get answers", I genuinely would like to know, as a viewer, which questions, I mean constantly confused reaction is fun and all, I was confused as well during s3, maybe not as much tho, but when you voice questions you may just get answers to some on your own

[@zoe_blackmore]

A few folks have said book 4 is the weakest of the 9 book plus novel series, its s very different scene, maybe it is a necessary break. I have only watched it once compared to the 4 or 5 times for the rest of the series. I think it will be good to watch through with a more relaxed approach, with less expectations. I did love the casting of the chief of security.

[@Jack251190]

One thing to mention. Holden went to the nucleus to "read the records". This is the vision you saw. Make of that what you will.

[@danieledwards3376]

In the vision Holden first sees things we know happened in the (recent) past and then he sees those other things.

[@benjaminodonnell258]

Notice that at the beginning of the vision, time was moving backwards, recent events were going in reverse.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Attributes of dandelions: --a weed with light green leaves and clusters of bright yellow flowers, each with hundreds of tiny petals and no particular scent. --Leaves are edible and fairly nutritious. Can also be fermented to produce a fairly intoxicating wine. --roots spread wide and burrow deep very quickly to monopolize any available water. (If not pulled entirely, will eventually grow back.) --Prolific. Each petal becomes a lightweight bit of fluff with a seed attached, that can drift on the wind for miles. Seeds will take root in almost any kind of soil. One dandelion becomes hundreds in a very short time, then thousands, then millions.

[@crazycarlos9158]

Your overthinking this the most simple answer is the best

[@neonspecter2730]

That was a vision of the past, those "records" that Miller was looking for. As you saw there used to be loads of ring portals in there but the nucleus closed them all up for some reason, and then felt the need to destroy that solar system. Also notice that every time Miller disappears and reappears, he seems slightly different. Each time he reappears he gets better at communicating with Holden, better at convincing him to do things.

[@Haegemon]

Miller said in the episodes before that about the "it builds the investigator, it destroys the investigator"

[@Timmayytoo]

This has not been explained by the show yet therefore it is a spoiler, and a goddamn big one at that.

[@neonspecter2730]

@@Timmayytoo What spoiler? Everything I mentioned happened in this episode.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

@@Timmayytoo It was shown on screen in *this* episode, and is therefore *not* a spoiler. One of the nice things about science fiction is that it calls upon you to actually *think* about what you've seen or read. If you're waiting for everything to just be explained to you later on, you're doing it wrong.

[@belindatester9205]

@@Timmayytoo it was literally the entire point of the episode they just watched. I know people are slow but Jesus Christ do you even pay attention? This is why we need to explain shit ...

[@Mason-gz3tl]

Steven: "Probably getting all protomoleculed up" The way Nikki feels at the end of every episode

[@garethneller8239]

Your faces for the last 5 minutes of this episode were brilliant🤣 I want to help you guys out but it's too hard avoiding spoilers, just know that a lot if your questions are going to be answered over the next couple of episodes (although you'll have more questions by then obviously!) I love the Drummer/Ashford dynamic it's much better than the book in this case

[@jrich749]

The sun that was blown up had two planets near it. Our sun has three. This was a historical log. Thats why its showed scenes in reverse order....and Holden got ALL of that log crammed into his head.

[@golfr-kg9ss]

@@jrich749 Actually if you stop the video there are 2 black dots and 1 blue green ball on the face of the sun, so 3 planets.

[@hoos3014]

golfr1369 We also see a certain planet with rings as the beam zooms in.

[@tonycamas9747]

When this episode was released, part of the description that it came with (the episode summary blurb that was in program guides and the like) spoke about Holden seeing "past, present and future." So I think there's some truth to both of the positions here. Some was historical record, and some was a vision of a possible future, though it's not clear how set in stone that is.

[@lalunadesangre1808]

This show is SO FREAKIN hard not to binge! I failed miserably and watched all 4 seasons in 3 weeks.

[@quiett6191]

I started season 1 one afternoon like "Right, I'll just watch one episode to see if its good". By the next morning, I started on season 2.

[@JnEricsonx]

I burned through all 5 in not even 2. But that's because a couple days later I had to meet Steven Strait and Wes Chatham at NYCC.

[@vanhende]

"My God, it is full of stars.."

[@jamesholland5761]

I see you, I see the reference you made! Not bad!

[@kirkdarling4120]

To verify one point shown, Holden's vision was clearly things that showed the past. But in the final part of that vision, the Ring nucleus fires an energy bolt that streams past our own planets (Saturn and Jupiter are unmistakable if you freeze the frame) and destroys our own sun...then Holden screams. So the vision starts in the past and ends with the destruction of our own solar system. Is Holden being shown what the Protomolecule intends to do? Or may do? We don't know.

[@jamesholland5761]

Don't always agree with your comments but I do on this one! That was our solar system! Except one thing was missing. .......

[@benkohlmeyer2083]

This is one of those episodes that really sticks with you. Been looking forward to that last scene for a while now.

[@ericc.6255]

I know this video is 11 months old but just wanted to say I’ve enjoyed your reactions to this under appreciated show so much! I’ve watched 3 other reaction channels to it (because I’m that addicted 😂) and I enjoy your reaction and edits way more than others! Come on season 6!!

[@NikkiStevenReact]

Appreciate the kind words E C

[@Stable_Delerium]

I love how into this show you guys are. I feel like I’m enjoying it for the first time again just watching your reactions and discussions. There is definitely no other show like it on TV.

[@zachgaskins3731]

I think when Holden pressed the Investigator to think about those painful memories, it "exceeded its boundary parameters" and so the PM had to "kill it" and rebuild a new one.

[@davebcf1231]

Yeah, that's how I interpreted it at as well. When proto-miller is presented with a question that the proto-molecule is unsure of how to respond to it "kills" him off and rebuilds him with what it has learned, then tries again to communicate in a way that will get Holden to do what it wants.

[@robertwinslade3104]

@@davebcf1231 Spoilers for season 4... This must be true because in season 4 we learn that this still wasn't really Miller's consciousness. The 'real' Miller doesn't show up until much later

[@jbail2547]

@@robertwinslade3104 Spoilers He is still in there though, he was learning through the investigator right ? And is always triggered by Julie Mao- Theres some miller in there, but he is the PM's Vessel

[@zachgaskins3731]

"Accidentally discharged the weapon" is how they record it so the victim's family gets paid compensation.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Not in the US military. Suicides are still considered "in the line of duty" and all due compensation is disbursed. Suicides are recorded as suicides, which is why the military even has statistics of suicides.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@watashi The OP is only right if that is actually done anywhere..if not, there's no reason for such a specific speculation. Otherwise, I agree with your speculation that the "accident" story was told by the local command to avoid panic and "copycats," which is a much more reasonable speculation.

[@darrenrichardson6146]

@@kirkdarling4120 Your all forgetting that the guy who blew his own brains out was a Military priest, most religions consider suicide a sin against god and that brings repercussions against the deceased's family culturally and religiously. Hence the inclination of recording it as "Accidental Discharge of Weapon", to spare the family that stigma.

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@darrenrichardson6146 There is zero indication that the dead man was a priest or any kind of clergy. He was a Methodist member (and Methodists don't have priests, anyway). And there is no indication that the military would change it's official reporting for the sake of religious scruples...they don't do that even now.

[@Vipre-]

Drags you to the edge of your seat, you don't even realize you've been holding your breath, and then right when you hit the peak of tension...the episode ends.

[@darksfallen]

Ashford and Drummer are two of my favorite characters, their dynamic is so very cool as it swings.

[@blackletter2591]

You're right. All we can say is we have a big game changer here. I think Holden's apparent position as the shit magnet is just related to Miller's coming into his role as The Investigator. He knows Holden better than he knows anyone else and now he's all "now I've got your attention, we need to take this discussion further". It's no use Miller doing this with anyone else; he'd have to start from much further back. Holden at least believes he is real, so Holden's getting the big starring role whether he wants it or not.

[@MidnightSt]

I hope and think i'm not giving spoilers, but I think I just realized what the dandelion sky is supposed to refer to (and I've been watching the show when it originally came out, and read the books before). Think about what dandelion actually does: spreads its seeds far and wide from the source, where they take hold, grow new dandelions, which then spread their seeds far and wide. And the sky inside the ring... Well...

[@lesleygutter418]

Well, Miller said there was a civilization there billions of years ago so did the Protomolecule show Holden everything back to that point?? Idk, just spitballing here.

[@thedragondemands5186]

Basically. Notice that the images were going in reverse order, showing the protomolecule’s past in reverse order: assembling the Ring, THEN leaving Venus, then Eros....then backing up billions of years.

[@Haegemon]

Everybody gets confused with the vision. The showrunners made a sequence of scenes to hint what was happening. They start with recent events counterclockwise, so the sequence is showing far in the past. Forget about infection, that was a secondary effect of how this tech, the protomolecule, works.

[@dagrimmreepa]

They're watching for the first time, why do you wanna be a douchebag and spoil everything? Let them discover everything at their own pace. Nobody ruined your first experience with the series.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

His statement contains no information from upcoming episodes, just from this one. Pay better attention.

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

"What the fuck was that?!" LOL. You hear that? That's the sound of your mind blowing. I have brain matter all over me.

[@SpeedyXGunz]

I've never seen these 2 totally lost and completely flummoxed before. I thought by 3rd episode (since the Ring formed) they'd get what's going on... but here we are on 4th one, and they still have that Carlson Tucker look on their faces. Re-watch Delta-V onward again.

[@SayBinidus]

Just to clarify, the protomolecule formed the ring gate, not the Nucleus. That was already there in the not-space, the protomolecule just made a connection to it. Kind of hard to follow stuff like that if you haven't read the books yet.

[@Matej_Sojka]

Protomolecule was sent to build a Ring. It did that and sent "done" message. And got no response. So it used what it had and built The Investigator to figure out why. Miller was experienced detective so he was used as a template. In previous episode he talks how he is being killed and reformated every time he deviates from his job. Protomolecule never programmed anything before so it is doing it with trial and error. And Miller contacted Holden because he needed to get trough the Ring and Roci had that protomolecule onboard already he could use as a relay. During the descent to Nucleus he also explains that he needs Holden purely for his physical presence, program only cannot trigger Nucleus systems and he needs access to records. Which is what Holden saw. I bet when you were editing this it made more sense, there is a lot of info packed in there. More will be explained as the season goes on, you are in for a ride.

[@arthurcamargo8416]

Hey Nikki and Steven! That episode may have flown by rather quickly for you, but this video did the same with me! Holy moley I was sucked in! Great video for a great series! Thank you so much!!! Stay safe and be well!

[@kevinwheesysouthward9295]

Holden always looks like he’s about to sneeze.

[@XeonAlpha]

Going back through some of these videos and just realized that the Lt. with Draper is Simu Liu would go on to star in Shang-Chi & The Legend of the Ten Rings.

[@jrich749]

The dandelions are the seeds that were sent out by the ancient civilization.

[@richardthecowardlylion5289]

We've seen how very advanced their medical tech is (first episode a rando lost his arm and was getting a robotic arm installed by the ships medic 5min later, on a broke ass junker ship) and Steven still hasn't put the obvious "oh, it's a bionic implant" piece together with Melba's little jaw clicky "Maximum Effort Device"? Bro, she's rich as F, she can afford the good implants.

[@tomhase7007]

Heavy Spoiler: She cannot (since her assets are frozen), and she will pay a heavy price for having bought the cheap ones.

[@cnmsales]

Lol. I told you you wouldn't even be able to comprehend. And you still haven't! Buckle up! Also, if you go back and listen, when Miller is talking about Julie and dying the music that was playing was the music from their scene on Eros 😉

[@Ssecave]

This show is something ! So captivating ! Cannot wait to see your reaction with what the story have to offer next !

[@pinroythegerman1721]

I would really like you to react to "Dark" (First German Netflix Show). But only with subtitles. Best show on air I ever saw. 3 seasons of continously awesomeness. I like your reactions very much. Stay healthy...till next episode

[@davedahl4461]

I’ve been so looking forward to this one.

[@danieledwards3376]

Comms work fine within the "bubble", it's just that the Roci's comms are still offline due to the sabotage.

[@kalandkarazor-el3088]

It's so similar to some of the story threads of Mass Effect. There's a great game night selection I know the writer said something about "sci-fi was around before Mass Effect" but there are too many similarities to ignore. They are both great stories in different ways as well

[@Ami-vh7sr]

Remember in an Earlier Episode Errinwright stated that Mao had another Daughter Clarissa?

[@masterkane5340]

Im glad im not the only one who was absolutely mind fucked after this episode lol such a great show.

[@drpepper998]

Doors and Corners...doors, the speed entering it...corner don't get close to the edge.

[@gawainethefirst]

What is a dandelion if it is not a collection of seeds ready to be disbursed on the wind?

[@MidnightSt]

Btw if i remember correctly, in the books, the sky inside the ring is just described as complete blackness with no stars. Which is much more eerie, in my opinion, but... makes for a better description in a book than it would make for a visual, so I like they made it blue for the show,

[@bcpr9812]

Behemoth, not BOhemoth. Just FYI.

[@rzlittle]

Whenever he says it like that it makes me think of Steven Wright's radio DJ from Reservoir Dogs talking about the Monster Truck show featuring the BOhemoth...

[@toncica]

Steven has heard of Bohemoth Rapsody, thunderbolt and lightning - very very frightening, so he is excused.

[@Rundismutti2001]

I just have to say this: you guys are simply the best! Already looking forward to the next episode! :-) Greetings from Denmark

[@JDMunoz-ct9xn]

The takeaway from this episode is that Alex is Amos's cat.

[@ToastyMcGrath]

Klaes Ashford is an amazing character in the TV show.

[@Tassy989]

Protocol was never a virus, its not contagious. When it was acting like a virus it was gathering resources and workers for the work. The ring is the work and the work is done, so it doesn't need to gather any more materials or workers for the work.

[@zoe_blackmore]

I know you often ignore such things but the final 2 episodes of season 3 (12 & 13) were a double episode released together on the same date by Syfi on the June 27, 2018

[@tharius78]

I love Nikki " he's real nervous"

[@saybanana]

There was an incident in LA Skid Row where a homeless drug user took PCP and it gave him almost superhero strength. It took a lot of officers to pin him down. I wonder if the thing in her tooth is similar to PCP. I hear stories of when someone is in danger like a child pinned under a car, the mom user all her strength to lift the car so the child can get out. Is it like a huge adrenaline shot? Maybe this is what Mehailbhah/Clarissa used, she passes out after because she used all her energy. I mean medicine is so advanced like the pill that Martians use when interrogating people.

[@IanHillan]

Clicked within the 1st minute of posting and typing as I watch. Yeah, about those cliffhangers...

[@Drummer4President]

Everyone after the Martians knew they could get out the “exit” because the Martians sent a probe through and back out before the Xuesen went through

[@brandonbiondo9208]

lol @ 14:26 that was my exact reaction when I saw it the first time

[@KeithDCanada]

Miller said two things so far: 1) Im the investigator. We gotta go to the crime scene. 2) What's in there? A records room and a bunch of locked doors. ...and so what do you find in a records room? Historical documents. That sure sounds like the place to start for an investigation...

[@15gamershaven89]

113 times a second it reaches out...

[@nokta7373]

Also something very few reactors seems to pick up or be impressed about, he said that there was a civilization there BILLIONS of years ago. So that stuff is BILLIONS of years old and still working. How nobody finds that impressive? :D

[@TheDetailsMatter]

If you can defy physics, it's not much of a stretch to discover you can also ignore entropy.

[@TheRaventwilight]

Holden's vision is absolutely amazing! Love your reactions guys! 👏🤯😱

[@dmann05]

Watching this episode blow your brains out was awesome! Think about the sequence of events that Holden sees...Is it showing us what will happen, or what already has happened? Three more episodes for season 3 and book 3! Get ready!

[@tharius78]

Has nuttin to do with the sun , remember the proto molecule was always susceptible to even human emotion ie when Julie changed the trajectory of Eros, so it's not the proto trying to control but showing the way. Like an intergalactic message in a bottle.

[@davewade30]

And now we know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.

[@flynyrdskynyrd1]

Reminder that we are only in book 3 out of 9 of the source material lol

[@nokta7373]

Yep, they are reaching the end of the Prologue :D

[@thontor]

14:35 Miller is on the case. He wants to take Holden to the records room because that's where the next lead in the case is. 14:44 there used to be a civilization here and there isn't anymore. maybe Miller wants to go to the records room to find out what happened to them. He needs Holden to do it because it requires a physical connection. The vision at the end is showing holden what happened to the civilization that created the protomolecule. 27:11 you weren't seeing it repairing things. you were watching time go in reverse. it was supposed to be a signal that you were going back in time to see what happened in the past. The sun it blows up wasn't ours.

If it was going backwards, did it actually blow up that sun, or did it create it? ;)

[@thontor]

@ i think at the beginning of the vision it was going backwards to signify going back in time then it started rolling forwards again to show what happened to the civilization that created the protomolecule

[@kevinwilliamenriquez2641]

I miss experiencing the second half of s3 for the first time and I was exactly like you guys

[@sallyshipwreck4315]

Hey you got pretty close with that dandelion sky explanation!

[@eantays7185]

Remember back when the whole community was like "The Expanse is super realistic and doesn't have any aliens at all...Totally real." Lol we've come to far.

[@sgbench]

I haven't seen any aliens yet

[@tbage2210]

Technically.. its still realistic. Just because we havent discovered how something works doesnt make it fictional. Even miller appearing makes sense.

[@alanigor6513]

but who told you that there are no aliens in our reality

[@JnEricsonx]

@@alanigor6513 Maybe for our solar system....but others?

[@Sir_Alex]

You are going to love Ashford N&S , trust me 🤗

[@Cydonius1]

Maneo did make history, he became a verb.

[@jamesholland5761]

Yall are asking really good questions! The problem is we can't answer them because of spoilers. And some we can't answer cause we don't know. But I will say this. You answered something without realizing it! Great reaction and yall are awesome! Can't wait till the next one!

[@JimONeill]

I love when Nikki said Holden is the nucleus. In a way when he completed the circuit he became part of the nucleus. So cool prediction Nikki.

[@rodentnolastname6612]

As before, things will get explained and as you should know by now, it leads to something even bigger 😲

[@belindatester9205]

23:32 No it's not a vision of the future. It's a vision of the past showing him all the things the station has seen. These events happened long before humans even existed. Miller even said the station would hold alot of records this is what he meant.

[@hoos3014]

Is it though?

[@scottlescard6154]

Holden's 'vision' starts off be showing time running backwards first, so what is shown later when time is running forwards is what happened in the past.

[@DarkMatterLuigi]

I thought that whole vision thing actually happen I didn't think to realize that the protomolecule is showing Holden what will happen.

[@belindatester9205]

Well your wrong both times haha. It's showing all past events it's not present or future it's past.

[@tharius78]

Beeenz waiting crazy for this you two let's go!!! Screaming fire hawks!!!

[@geoffgreen2105]

'Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it's a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it's a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it's a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito.' -James S.A. Corey, Abaddon's Gate

[@thamor4746]

Recommend watch that dream sequence again when u finish the season.

[@15gamershaven89]

113 times a second it reaches out...

[@brilobox2]

but no reply

[@regaubade8329]

The tangents they go with "infected"... lol It's like when they believed Avasarala was bad until the 10th episode.

[@VorboteDesKrieg]

If you like the expanse with it's twists and turns I highly suggest watching Altered Carbon on Netflix!

[@IanHillan]

Last minute. Wtf? Book authors (9 book series, 9th and final instalment due out soon) are Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham, writing under the pseudonym of James S A Corey. They have also been very involved in the writers' room of the show, so if we get 9 seasons (oh, please, pretty please!) they won't be Game-of-Thronesing it for the last couple of seasons. When this is all over, I do recommend reading the books. Steven: "This has gone so far past..." Book readers: "Dude, you have no idea." It's Diogo :) Hard not to binge from here on...

[@toncica]

So you have read the books? I have just finished watching season four and I have questions but I don't want to get spoiled. It's about the mystery of the protomolecule and its creators. If you have read all the available books, are you any closer to understanding it? A simple yes or no would suffice. I'm asking because many times authors wouldn't even try to have an explanation, because 'magic can't be explained' or 'don't mind the plot, it was the friends we made along the way' or some other bullshit. I'd like to see something more profound at the end of The Expanse.

[@TomCarrell1]

@@toncica Yes.

[@tonycamas9747]

@@toncica The books advance the story of the protomolecule/ring creators slowly, but (as this story has done all the way through), pretty much every answer comes with two additional questions, so we don't really know how much closure we're going to get in the end (the ninth and final book is not out yet). Ty & Daniel have promised there will be answers, and I tend to trust them because they've done right by us all so far, but technically nobody can tell you how well explained this is going to be in the end, because none of us has yet seen/read the end. But I'm guessing they will answer things pretty thoroughly before the last book is over.

[@toncica]

@@tonycamas9747 Thank you for the answer. It helps me having realistic expectations from now on. While season four was satisfying and I'm excited for the next one, I feel that the protomolecule subplot was advanced the least compared to previous seasons. One would have thought with an investigator onboard the clues would come together faster. But what if you no longer had that investigator, ...that probably doesn't help to pick up the pace.

[@tonycamas9747]

@@toncica I don't want to wade to far into spoiler waters here, but I guess I would comment here that, in general, I have the sense that this story is less interested in the weird alien stuff than it is in how humanity deals with it. I think The Expanse is, above all, a human story, even though there is a fair amount of weird alien stuff weaved throughout. For me, this is just fine... I am just as invested in the protomolecule (and related) mythology as the next guy, but I would be lying if I said that was the main thing I was watching for. Everyone is different in this regard, though, so I'm not going to presume to guess whether you'll be happy with the story going forward. The fact that you still enjoyed season 4 bodes well, though. There should be much more of what you're looking for moving forward. I don't think it ever becomes the "main" story, or at least it hasn't so far, but there's more of it ahead, probably a good deal more then was in S4.

[@taiyipan3138]

Well the vision Holden saw was clearly a rewind of events. It started with Eros, Venus, and then backwards in time to the beginning.

[@jim8180]

Btw the Asian Martian soldier with Bobby is Simu Liu, who has been cast as the Marvel superhero Shang Chi. Also, he's in an awesome Canadian show Kim's Convenience.

[@JnEricsonx]

And the RING didn't care that he had 10 rings, not THE RING.

[@garrettcreedon8998]

Hey Nikki and Steven, love your videos. PLEASE react to peaky blinders...WHAT A SHOW

[@RaoulKunz1]

Just mentioning - as insane as it might sound at this point: there is so much more to this universe... if this means anything to you: this and the next season are "At the Mountains of Madness" in Lovecraftian terms... mind what Proto-Miller says "There used to be a civilization here billions of years ago, now there's only locked doors and lights on a timer." This is key to the scenario, with all it implies. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz

[@mksongbird]

small appearance from Simu Liu aka Shang-Chi!!!!

[@gerhardadler3418]

It's like in Dune, she has a false tooth, when she bites on it or uses her tongiue, she gets something like an extreme adrenaline kick. That's why she is so exhausted afterwards. Just a guess though, i haven't read the book.

[@philmar44]

Good reaction. The protomolecule isn't what you think it is.

[@nickynickyyy]

That’s no moon

[@faqgougle7641]

It's rewinding to show things were moving into the past not the future, the vision wasn't a prophecy it was an historical record.

[@Kaseyberg]

Rip shang chi lol

[@jsoe4111]

Hey guys loved watching you Vikings reaction a new show on Netflix just dropped call curse and I hope that you guys could react to it already got me hyped but just seeing a few old faces

[@doylefan]

This was awesome!