The F 22 Killer : YF 23 | Why F 22 was chosen over YF 23?

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@Artist_Uzumaki
@Artist_Uzumaki 4 жыл бұрын
I am sure 70 to 80%people forgot about black widow YF23.
@vineetsinghgusain701
@vineetsinghgusain701 4 жыл бұрын
No ...not those who follow defence news
@tonyk7509
@tonyk7509 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@ISyedZainUlAbideen
@ISyedZainUlAbideen 4 жыл бұрын
one of the Project AZM's(pakistan's fifth gen program) designs is actually YF23s clone although its not finalised and several design cycles are due
@vineetsinghgusain701
@vineetsinghgusain701 4 жыл бұрын
@@ISyedZainUlAbideen congratulations you will succeed
@ISyedZainUlAbideen
@ISyedZainUlAbideen 4 жыл бұрын
@@vineetsinghgusain701 God willingly thanks
@anandkumar-wf1so
@anandkumar-wf1so 4 жыл бұрын
when ever i find a video or an article about F-23...i always have a strong feeling that its a 6th gen fighter or may be at least they modify it to be a 6th gen fighter ...the basic outer design looks really very different than the fighters that existed at that time ...and I believe even in the internals it is a whole lot different
@atharvakadam7071
@atharvakadam7071 4 жыл бұрын
Yeaaa it is !! they might working on this project since then or may be not classified and kept confidential ..🤔🤨
@anandkumar-wf1so
@anandkumar-wf1so 4 жыл бұрын
@@azrael6067 bro do u really feel that su 47 is a 5th gen fighter... Does it have stealth...?
@paramvirsingh6155
@paramvirsingh6155 2 жыл бұрын
Japan is working on YF23 with help of Northcorp to make it 6th generation
@saiecorp5646
@saiecorp5646 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice and informative video. Really enjoyed watching, very crisp and precise information. I, too liked YF 23 more on its technical capabilities. It was way ahead of F 22 in many aspects. Just few glances at history. YF 23 was designed and developed by consortium of Northrop Grummen and Macdonald Douglas. And YF 22 by Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics and Boeing. As rightly said by Defence Matrix, team of YF22 had good contacts with influential people in Pentagon. Mandate given to both team was - 1. Low observability (stealth)- Frontal and Lateral, supressed infrared signature. 2. Supercruise without afterburner. 3. Data centric warfare. In all these aspects YF23 was ahead. Their design team was best, they had planned tailless delta, but settled on Pelikan tail. In my opinion even today YF 23 is relevant. Thanx Defence Matrix for visiting pages of history.
@PS-ug7nm
@PS-ug7nm 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a full documentary vid on why this was chosen (which was primarily because of Internal Politics)... Similar thing happened when Apache was chosen over Cheyenne-56 when they were planning to replace their Cobra's 😶 .... _Many times Money plays a higher role than capabilities I guess_ ...
@debanjanmukherjee4322
@debanjanmukherjee4322 4 жыл бұрын
You are ignoring a major factor..... Cost of operation...... It'd have been a lot more than already eye watering cost of F22...... Economy always drives decisions...... For the same reason, USA is still operating F15 Eagles and stopped farther production of F22.....
@PS-ug7nm
@PS-ug7nm 4 жыл бұрын
@@debanjanmukherjee4322 I ain't ignoring it...I said the exact same thing in the last line of my comment... Clearly you didn't read the entire comment bruh...
@vivekkaushik9508
@vivekkaushik9508 4 жыл бұрын
Corruption baby!
@debanjanmukherjee4322
@debanjanmukherjee4322 4 жыл бұрын
@@PS-ug7nm I assumed your "Money" to be "Bribe"..... While my "Money" meant "Economy"..... I did read it all bro
@JonnyHindu
@JonnyHindu 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your comment I get to know about a wonderful weapon system called Cheyenne AH-56 .. A heavy duty attack Heli which can fly not only at high altitude but at very low altitude (almost at tree tops heights) and that even at around half the speed of sound (equivalent to ww2 aircrafts speeds)... It was a wonderful system and was ahead of it's time.. I do think that HAL LCH have some structural similarities with AH-56 .. Well I can be over thinking but it's really was ahead of it's time..
@Nameraj_12
@Nameraj_12 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked yf 23 over f 22
@tonyk7509
@tonyk7509 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@ElonTusk889
@ElonTusk889 4 жыл бұрын
So which one are u buying bro?
@Nameraj_12
@Nameraj_12 4 жыл бұрын
@@ElonTusk889 Haa nice one 👌😜
@exe4747
@exe4747 3 жыл бұрын
Us airforce should induct and operate both 🤣
@saadimahmoodsajjad2803
@saadimahmoodsajjad2803 4 жыл бұрын
I hope agla video SR-71 blackbird par hoga!
@herambjadkar1045
@herambjadkar1045 4 жыл бұрын
This is 100% true, without marketing nothing gets recognized.
@sagardahiya6138
@sagardahiya6138 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine they develop yf23 design modified for 6th gen
@abhijitmohanty8541
@abhijitmohanty8541 4 жыл бұрын
Yup I think the same
@PS-ug7nm
@PS-ug7nm 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the new 6th gen aircraft renders show that it is inspired by F-16'S air intake....
@sagardahiya6138
@sagardahiya6138 4 жыл бұрын
@@PS-ug7nm do you mean flying wing design?
@PS-ug7nm
@PS-ug7nm 4 жыл бұрын
@@sagardahiya6138 No I mean single Individual air intake below the seat and not two seperate intakes like the ones in F22's and F35's ... And also it's named as "FX"
@timetraveller8895
@timetraveller8895 4 жыл бұрын
@@PS-ug7nm any renders photos?
@flamboyantpossum8572
@flamboyantpossum8572 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Shamoun TV: {F22 Tayara Killer:JF-17 Block 3 Tayara😂😂😂}
@vineetsinghgusain701
@vineetsinghgusain701 4 жыл бұрын
Bhai woh kuch bhi kar sakte hain
@SGT_HAWK_YT
@SGT_HAWK_YT 4 жыл бұрын
YF-23s engine design played an important role in development Of B-2... Especially the thermal signature reduction of the engines by using tiles
@mishrachabra4471
@mishrachabra4471 4 жыл бұрын
I really feel sorry for this story of YF-23 that could not be .... 😞😞😭
@R_V_71
@R_V_71 4 жыл бұрын
ye American ka secret jet hoga abb. CIA, AForce & test bed for 6th gen. etc
@vivekkaushik9508
@vivekkaushik9508 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@R_V_71
@R_V_71 4 жыл бұрын
@Æ-Ź- Ź-Æ nyc😂
@shubhamsarkar9680
@shubhamsarkar9680 4 жыл бұрын
I am never this earlier....😀😀😀
@thondupandrugtsang
@thondupandrugtsang 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.Its a sad outcome for a legendary plane. This is what happens when bureaucrats and lobbyists decide the outcome.
@spectre3954
@spectre3954 4 жыл бұрын
It was all down to lobbying......people often compare F-22 to Yf-23 and say F22 is better but do not forget Yf-23 is not a complete aircraft it was a technology demostrator....so we should compare Yf-22 to the Yf-23......Yf-23 was a revolutionary design...even though the spped of Yf-23 was less compared to Yf-22 but the Yf-23 was more stealthier...Yf-23 did not have TVC like Yf-22 but Yf-23 had remarkble IF signature reduction....
@debanjanmukherjee4322
@debanjanmukherjee4322 4 жыл бұрын
Far less weapons load and extremely high maintenance cost due to the complex architecture and heat exchangers at the back...... Larger footprints as well (not RCS)..... There were a lot of factors other than "Lobbying" that went against YF23..... These were to serve in numbers and not "Exclusively" as B2's and B52's...... There's always an economy factor driving the decisions...... Can't put a blind eye for the same.... Northrop specializes in stealth for exclusive aircrafts only, that philosophy doesn't hold good for mass produced backbone fighters....
@spectre3954
@spectre3954 4 жыл бұрын
@@debanjanmukherjee4322 i said do not compare Yf-23 to F-22......read before u comment...
@debanjanmukherjee4322
@debanjanmukherjee4322 4 жыл бұрын
@@spectre3954 and I said it with respect to "YF22" not F22.... I have read your post....
@mishrachabra4471
@mishrachabra4471 4 жыл бұрын
The program to develop the 5th gen fighter plane was called as the ATF (Advanced Tactical Fighter) program
@drprabhatkumar8213
@drprabhatkumar8213 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from lobbying 2 minor things went against yf23.. 1. Weapons bay design which was vertical. 2. Front IR signature... Engine blade was visible in yf23 but it had better rear stealth than f22.
@lavenderpro4730
@lavenderpro4730 4 жыл бұрын
The only much like appearance we can see is with Project Tempest by UK
@jesletkuriakose
@jesletkuriakose 4 жыл бұрын
I believe india should have private players like Lockheed Martin and Northrup companies so that we can also create better aircrafts...
@rahulgandigudi
@rahulgandigudi 4 жыл бұрын
YF23 one of my favourite.
@reverseflash2800
@reverseflash2800 4 жыл бұрын
HAL barely produced 5 Tejas in 2020 yet Lockhead Martin produced 200+ F35 in 2020
@Economics365
@Economics365 2 жыл бұрын
😥
@akash3740
@akash3740 4 жыл бұрын
Bro can you explain why these fighter aircrafts take so much long time for r&d , first flight,production
@Economics365
@Economics365 2 жыл бұрын
For advance technological features that world didn't have
@sumitarya6065
@sumitarya6065 4 жыл бұрын
From some angles, resembles Su57
@zil1832
@zil1832 4 жыл бұрын
@Digvijay sandhu are amrika ka chamcha bhot hai, mat bano. Russia humara dost hai. Usko support karo.
@zil1832
@zil1832 4 жыл бұрын
@Digvijay sandhu okay then, where is the evidence to substantiate your lofty claim? You cannot just go on the internet accusing Russia without evidence....
@zil1832
@zil1832 4 жыл бұрын
@I want its still is okay. We have to Support Russia, to strengthen their faltering economy. A weak Russia means more Chinese agression.
@zil1832
@zil1832 4 жыл бұрын
btw I am still waiting for evidence of Sandhu's claim.
@zil1832
@zil1832 4 жыл бұрын
@I want thats because now India is changing its non allignment policy. Now shifting towards US block... Meanwhile Russia facing sanctions.
@ashishshil734
@ashishshil734 4 жыл бұрын
Ye baat mujhe bahut pehle pata tha ... thanks aapne sahise example kiya
@VAPOURIZE100
@VAPOURIZE100 4 жыл бұрын
Woww YF23 looks like spaceship literally o.o
@ompagar26
@ompagar26 4 жыл бұрын
Need more videos like this ❤️
@illusionarylife5741
@illusionarylife5741 4 жыл бұрын
Simple answer : Because F-22 looks better. Gotta look good in movies.
@manuskumar3379
@manuskumar3379 4 жыл бұрын
Brother what's your opinion on Japan collaborating with YF 23's maker for 6 gen stealth aircraft.
@niravmandaviya2355
@niravmandaviya2355 4 жыл бұрын
Bro why our netra awc&s has only 250 km rang whil pakistani has 350 to 400 km rang ?
@rushikeshyadav3801
@rushikeshyadav3801 4 жыл бұрын
Got new information today . Thank you Sir
@ritwikdhara199
@ritwikdhara199 4 жыл бұрын
I love YF-23...Black Window.👍
@vegitoblue6911
@vegitoblue6911 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf black widow
@ritwikdhara199
@ritwikdhara199 4 жыл бұрын
@@vegitoblue6911 YF-23 is called Black Widow.Just Like F-22 raptor,F/18-Super Hornet F-16-Viper..Etc
@vegitoblue6911
@vegitoblue6911 4 жыл бұрын
@@ritwikdhara199 Yf-23 ke starting me Jo 2 prototypes bane the usme se ek kq naam tha black widow, samjhe kuch chaccha
@ritwikdhara199
@ritwikdhara199 4 жыл бұрын
@@vegitoblue6911 and that's the official name...Read more.👍
@royal1932
@royal1932 4 жыл бұрын
Great video👍very informative
@samthegamer4910
@samthegamer4910 5 ай бұрын
I guarantee that if the YF-23 had been chosen, we'd be talking about how the F-22 wouldve been better
@abhijitmohanty8541
@abhijitmohanty8541 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that YF23 has the same intake placement as Su57
@satheeshnarayanan701
@satheeshnarayanan701 4 жыл бұрын
One of the key factor (speculated) gone against YF-23 was presumptive Cost overruns like B2 bomber on those days.
@atlyricalworld7083
@atlyricalworld7083 4 жыл бұрын
IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT USA MAYBE OPERATING YF-23 SECRETLY??? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 @DefenceMatrix
@mayur4699
@mayur4699 4 жыл бұрын
Might be.
@yogeshchaudhary2093
@yogeshchaudhary2093 4 жыл бұрын
There were 2 YF-23s for the test flights. One was named black widow and other was grey ghost. Many articles and former engineers and designers of the same jet claim that the jet was almost better than the YF-22, but the crash turned the table in favour of YF-22. Technically, it wasn't a crash but fault that could lead to a major crash, but still..., that was all that Lockheed Martin needed to push YF-22.
@paramjyottiwana1625
@paramjyottiwana1625 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a video on my request!! 🙏🙏🙏
@zafargamer9908
@zafargamer9908 4 жыл бұрын
Sir su 47 par video banyo yo project kyu band hoya
@fragout1421
@fragout1421 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a detailed video on current status of Tejas program and what r future expectations and when IAF will get considerable number of these platform.
@throwaway9279
@throwaway9279 4 жыл бұрын
See. That's how powerful lockheed lobby is.
@vikrantkothavale8291
@vikrantkothavale8291 4 жыл бұрын
That's some crazy alien technology
@Artist_Uzumaki
@Artist_Uzumaki 4 жыл бұрын
I always think USA should have 3 to 4 secret squadren of YF 23.
@babulubarge123
@babulubarge123 Жыл бұрын
Grey ghost or black widow which is ur favourite ❤❤ My personal one is grey ghost
@parassharma7041
@parassharma7041 4 жыл бұрын
Why only America is having innovative technology 🧐 it's a big question
@abhisheksoni3110
@abhisheksoni3110 4 жыл бұрын
2 -2 billion $ dono company ne apne project pe lagaye the to innovation to hoga hi na Jo company har gai ye company vo parts deti he f22 ke kyu nahi to company bankruptho jato
@biplabapanda785
@biplabapanda785 4 жыл бұрын
American have access of alienate advanced aeronautical technology in the reaserach and devlopment has been stated before decades like recently they revealed their agency intercept their signal.
@starlord1346
@starlord1346 4 жыл бұрын
Because they spend more money on research and development
@unclsam6798
@unclsam6798 4 жыл бұрын
Software, R&D, Huge money, private sector domination, competition ans education
@sushantchorghe3079
@sushantchorghe3079 4 жыл бұрын
Sir Jab India Su-30MKI ko Hi kyun Chuna uss time jaha pe uske Barabarike other Fighters Tab per abhi ke su30mki are more advanced compared to the old versions but there no doubt in su30mki,s capability per Phir Bhi question uttha hain
@ishwarprasadnaik133
@ishwarprasadnaik133 4 жыл бұрын
Japan yf23 ke platform per hi apna next generation ka fighter jet F3 bana raha hai...
@dibakarroy226
@dibakarroy226 4 жыл бұрын
Another Factor, That Lockheed Martin Ne US Senet Ka Members ko Apna side leke Aya tha .
@JonnyHindu
@JonnyHindu 4 жыл бұрын
Now please make a video on *“ Apache AH - 64 VS Cheyenne AH - 56 ”*
@sainirchobby
@sainirchobby 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible any country buy YF23 with full transfer of technology??
@Nikhil-mu9ol
@Nikhil-mu9ol 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a detailed video on sukhoi 34.also, instead of changing structure of su 30 mki for every new missile we develop ,why can't we buy 2 squadrons of su 34 bombers? would like to know ur opinion @defence matrix
@charanchiti1339
@charanchiti1339 4 жыл бұрын
I think USAF WANTS YF 23 AS ITS 6th Generation fighter 🤔.. it's look some what like a new design 😲
@rajibsarkar6052
@rajibsarkar6052 4 жыл бұрын
At the begining of every video of this chanel,there is a fighter pilot flying Tejas...who is he?
@Rohit-jx4qq
@Rohit-jx4qq 4 жыл бұрын
Me
@badwalvlogs9243
@badwalvlogs9243 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@ravind3263
@ravind3263 2 жыл бұрын
YF23 was 2x expensive than F22
@hypersonic1584
@hypersonic1584 4 жыл бұрын
Defence matrix giving business classes 😅
@sdas3818
@sdas3818 4 жыл бұрын
Cir can we make an armed varient of saras mk2 like a 10 c......
@fazilkians
@fazilkians 4 жыл бұрын
Solid video bro
@RishabhSingh-hn4nw
@RishabhSingh-hn4nw 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on rudram 3 missile
@kamleshchavan7451
@kamleshchavan7451 4 жыл бұрын
Kya hindustan government Northrop se yf 23 se deal kar sakti hai, Japan ke contact mein hai Northrop
@Bishal_Goswami
@Bishal_Goswami 4 жыл бұрын
The 5th gen fighter program of Pakistan, Project AZM is also based on YF23.
@udaysingh812
@udaysingh812 3 жыл бұрын
Intro me konsa song use karte ho
@sushantchorghe3079
@sushantchorghe3079 4 жыл бұрын
Dekha hain Pehli Baar Sajan ke Takle Pe Baal🙈😂
@subhaloyola25
@subhaloyola25 4 жыл бұрын
When will HAL freeze AMCA design ??
@minzs007
@minzs007 4 жыл бұрын
Bhai s400 khareedne se US ko kya problem hoga? Ek s400 ka video banao na
@remixadda9902
@remixadda9902 3 жыл бұрын
India should adopt this Design For amca
@darthashpie
@darthashpie 2 жыл бұрын
Too late , we have already decided the design
@samarmohanty6109
@samarmohanty6109 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get that palne 🙄 now.. Their design or something
@kartikaysengar5884
@kartikaysengar5884 4 жыл бұрын
Bhai 2- 2 prototype banaya tha and 2-2 companies ne engine banaya tha.
@arnabkumarpandatech-054
@arnabkumarpandatech-054 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. United States military conducts competition between their companies so that they get the best at the cheapest price.
@sidharthcs2110
@sidharthcs2110 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Boeing's entry to the Joint Strike fighter programme? That thing is ugly af
@arpitchauhan9776
@arpitchauhan9776 4 жыл бұрын
X-32?
@yogesh124
@yogesh124 4 жыл бұрын
America wale 2 state of the art plane bana diye aur baki dunia ek plane banane ke liye struggle kar rhi h abhi bhi
@_.Kakayana._
@_.Kakayana._ 4 жыл бұрын
Name a plane jo sabhii jet ke saath pangee le sakta hooo aur sabhi parameters meh perfectly balanced hoo like sensors and countermeasures like spectra , missile,radars,range,manuravellity and it's cockpit system like f 35 cockpit has artificial intelligence
@rajdeepchanda5752
@rajdeepchanda5752 4 жыл бұрын
Bro can you please make a video on Project 23560 of russian navy. And is it a suitable option for India ???
@warfootage7890
@warfootage7890 4 жыл бұрын
Nxt video on su 47 plz🙏
@_s2700
@_s2700 4 жыл бұрын
hey matrix whats the difference between 4+ and 4.5 gen aircrafts?... can you explain pls !
@rajdeepchanda5752
@rajdeepchanda5752 4 жыл бұрын
A 4th generation aircraft with little upgrade is called 4+ generation and 4.5 generation means a aircraft with totally brand new or some modified avionics,radar, modified cockpit, new or modified engnine, etc which is much more superior to a 4+ generation. This type of aircraft have the capability to detect the 5th generation aircraft and engage with it. But in the easy method a "+"means 0.25, So 4+ means = 4.25 and 4++ = 4.5 that's all. 😂😂😂😂😂😉
@68__vaibhavwagh90
@68__vaibhavwagh90 4 жыл бұрын
Can any country buy any aircraft ......like yf23
@नमोनारायण1
@नमोनारायण1 3 жыл бұрын
Lockheed Martin YF 22 now F22 reaptor nai bribe de kar contract chin liya tha YF 23 sai
@shadowfury7068
@shadowfury7068 4 жыл бұрын
Yf 23 futuristic jyda lgta hai
@rahulchakraborty7221
@rahulchakraborty7221 4 жыл бұрын
One video on hypersonic wind tunnel.
@AdityaThakur-xf3qr
@AdityaThakur-xf3qr 4 жыл бұрын
kya es par bhi ban laga hai?
@gamershivuu991
@gamershivuu991 4 жыл бұрын
ho sakta hai ki yf23 ko secret tarike se US military use karti ho apne secret operations me or F22 pe sabka dhyaan jaye isleye usko duniya ke samne rakha ho jaise india ka mig 31 tha secret missions ke leye
@animeshkumarjha6896
@animeshkumarjha6896 4 жыл бұрын
Yf23 India le ni Sakta ?
@avinashthakur3129
@avinashthakur3129 4 жыл бұрын
Video on k4 missile
@mannuthakur375
@mannuthakur375 4 жыл бұрын
Am wondering 🙄 by end the 2021 some countries will start producing UFO 👽 fighter planes
@mukeshkushwaha1621
@mukeshkushwaha1621 4 жыл бұрын
Iska reason toh who log hi bata sakte hai Waha pe monoploy Aur lobby jo hai who chalti hai Tabhi toh waha par Lockheed Martin ko boieng ke upar prefer kiya gaya Aur spacex ko boieng ke upar prefer kiya gaya Abhi BOIENG company kyu struggle kar rahe hai Aur Space X ne jo vertical landing ka concept tha use pahale MAC DOUGLAS ne 25 Saal pahale hi banaya tha jo ki band hoke abhi sell ho chuki hai blue origin ko kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWrGm42KeMasaJY
@kumargouravsingh3031
@kumargouravsingh3031 4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on sr71 blackbird
@vivekkaushik9508
@vivekkaushik9508 4 жыл бұрын
The black widow.
@ishanttandulkar8213
@ishanttandulkar8213 4 жыл бұрын
It was a beautiful aircraft ..
@hyperhardik
@hyperhardik 4 жыл бұрын
Aisa he scene tejas aur jf17 ke beech chal rha hi
@gamestreams4658
@gamestreams4658 4 жыл бұрын
Why did u delete the comment?
@Nagarjunakitchen0021
@Nagarjunakitchen0021 4 жыл бұрын
Indian airforce ko yf23 k liye America se baat krni chahiye thi
@vineetsinghgusain701
@vineetsinghgusain701 4 жыл бұрын
Can usa give black bird to india on lease
@smitpatel2236
@smitpatel2236 4 жыл бұрын
Sir f-insase ke regarding ek video banaiye
@Honey25Honey
@Honey25Honey 4 жыл бұрын
Can india buy yf 23 from Northrup grumen and put it into mass production here in india. 😁😁Just saying
@abhisheksoni3110
@abhisheksoni3110 4 жыл бұрын
Cia ne aircraft ko destroy kardiya taki kisi aur ke hath ye tech na lage
@imaandarsharma
@imaandarsharma 4 жыл бұрын
I saw blackwidow in real.....
@pritamkarar7580
@pritamkarar7580 4 жыл бұрын
People following destiny youtube channel know this
@sanskarkumar6484
@sanskarkumar6484 4 жыл бұрын
💞🤟
@yugalbajaj6355
@yugalbajaj6355 4 жыл бұрын
F-2 shinshin par bhi banao
@asherkosmos4312
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Alien technology
@Godofschool
@Godofschool 4 жыл бұрын
HAL think it can sell it's Tejas to us navy 😂😂😂😂😂. God damn Lockheed Martin will take away contract .
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