The Fairmont The Plan

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EricTheCarGuy

EricTheCarGuy

Күн бұрын

I think every build should start with a good plan. You need to figure out what it is you want to accomplish before you start paying out your hard earned money on a vehicle build. In this video I talk about my plans for my 1979 Ford Fairmont. For those of you not familiar, this is a Fox body vehicle which is the same chassis as the Ford Mustang from 1978-1992. That means that most of the parts that fit a Mustang of that vintage, fit this car. I'm not the first person to think of this, but I hope to put my own unique spin on this build to make it my own. I think you'll enjoy what I have in store for the Fairmont. If nothing else, it will make for a bunch of new and interesting videos this season. I can't wait to get started. FYI, that will likely be summer 2015.
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@tammyschilling5362
@tammyschilling5362 9 жыл бұрын
This video has blown my mind. I used to own an '83 Fairmont (a hand-me-down from my grandfather) and it was such a nightmare of a junk car. Used to idle high and want to take off and I'd have to stand on the brake to keep it from rear ending people in traffic, except when it would idle low in traffic and just quit. I've never missed that car for a second. Now someone is taking a Fairmont and turning it into a secret Mustang. Wow.
@johnwpowell1955
@johnwpowell1955 9 жыл бұрын
I admire your research and planning on this build. Too many Honda guys just want to drop any B or K without doing any research at all, then come crying when it doesnt run right and they are bogged down with CEL's. Your attention to detail before even starting the project is a rare thing in this hobby.
@Overkill14
@Overkill14 9 жыл бұрын
Eric I would strongly recommend power steering in this build. A long time employee of my dads built a fox body mustang with the 302 the 5 speed and the works but he had manual steering. It was damn near impossible to drive with that much power and manual tramission and needing both hands to steer, he ended up switching it back to power steering, just my $0.02
@ericthecarguy
@ericthecarguy 9 жыл бұрын
Upstate Redneck I've considered that, but if I need to switch over I can later. The rack I'm looking at is linked in the description. I don't think it will be all that bad, but I'll find out soon enough.
@ratbert86
@ratbert86 9 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy If you're going for stealth, I assume you're going to keep the stock steering wheel. That thing is plenty big and you'll be fine, even when parallel parking. I know you know this but some here seem to not: A manual rack is designed to be manual. It's not the same effort as a power steering rack with the pump disconnected or engine off. Since you're converting to 5 lug, late model Crown Vic police cars came with 17" steel wheels - plentiful and cheap. If nothing else you can use them for fitment tests and to move the car around in the shop.
@ratbert86
@ratbert86 9 жыл бұрын
ratbert86 Just saw the part where you said you're ditching the wheel. Might as well switch to a tilt column too since you're gonna use this as a driver.
@2-old-Forthischet
@2-old-Forthischet 9 жыл бұрын
My 67 Mustang had manual steering, a top loader four speed and 50 series tires on all four corners. While driving it was no problem steering and the only difficulty was parallel parking but even that wasn't too bad. Of course, I did climb poles for a living and did weight work outs too.
@Overkill14
@Overkill14 9 жыл бұрын
I hope this works out for you but if it feels like it's too heavy or it's unsafe to drive with no power steering, we won't judge you if you put in a power rack
@321968Scott
@321968Scott 8 жыл бұрын
I just found your site after researching hydroboost brake systems. Your Fairmont series brings back memories. Back in 1990, my newer car that I couldn't afford to fix broke down. So, my future, and current in-laws, loaned me their 1977 flat worn out Fairmont to drive until I could make enough to fix my vehicle. It was a light blue two door, with a 4cyl Pinto engine and 4spd manual transmission. Lets just say, that driving it in our mountainous region was somewhat of an adventure. And, every hill you came to, left you praying just to get to the top. Car is still setting on the farm in the edge of the woods somewhere.
@95berre
@95berre 9 жыл бұрын
Put a Honda VTec in it... :D "grabs popcorn"
@benmudn
@benmudn 9 жыл бұрын
Better than a carbed small block Ford!
@heyman764
@heyman764 9 жыл бұрын
Hey I can make vetec sounds I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'em gay I'emmmmmmmm gaaaaaaaayy
@sanosuke2999
@sanosuke2999 9 жыл бұрын
Luis Carrion Sir, that is a near perfect onomatopoeia of what a Honda engine sounds like with a fart can exhaust. Thank you.
@94navin
@94navin 9 жыл бұрын
hondas engines dont work in heavy cars, must be light
@PaPWPW
@PaPWPW 9 жыл бұрын
kidzero1943 Vortec as in truck engines? they're truck engines, idiot, they're not supposed to even sound good, on the other hand, hondas are supposed to be performance oriented and yet they sound like a lawnmower being raped by two jackhammers
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill 9 жыл бұрын
Yay!!! Carburetor!! Manual transmission! WOOOOO!! For the ignition, two words: Pertronix Ignitor. I put one of those in my '68 Galaxie (and their accompanying Flame Thrower coil) and it's been a 100% reliable, zero maintenance setup for several years now. *Way* easier than one of those external MSD boxes (and cheaper, too). Just drops right into the distributor, right where the points and condenser used to be. Once you get everything lined up correctly, it's bulletproof.
@JonsGarage89
@JonsGarage89 9 жыл бұрын
"I want to do something that hasnt been done" "Im gonna throw a 302 crate motor in it" OH COME ON! Another 302. WHY NOT A STRAIGHT 6 TURBO!?
@potaka79
@potaka79 9 жыл бұрын
Like we have here in Australia.
@potaka79
@potaka79 9 жыл бұрын
***** If he had a i6 Turbo from Aussie that would throw a few ppl straight away....No one would see it coming till it was to late.
@potaka79
@potaka79 9 жыл бұрын
You from oz
@MrGunsgunsgunsguns
@MrGunsgunsgunsguns 9 жыл бұрын
money....... the turbo setup will add way too much to the build cost. Did you not hear him say that about the ecoboost?
@potaka79
@potaka79 9 жыл бұрын
nick sinclair Yeah but the ecoboost is a piece of dogs sh_t compared to the Australian i6 turbo. Factory 400hp not much would need to be done maybe a tune & some bigger injectors to get over 550bhp. Plus it would be less weight over front so better steering & personally it would awesome to scare the shit out a few of those LS motors
@Subz3r097
@Subz3r097 9 жыл бұрын
I am in the process of building a Mustang II. It has been a learning experience and man are you right when you say all of the little things! Everything you said is what I would have done to this car. I am looking forward to following the build!
@petemiller2598
@petemiller2598 5 жыл бұрын
"I want this car to be a sleeper" … "I might put a roll cage in it" LOL!
@jetski54
@jetski54 9 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the mods! I've always preferred sedans unless the coupe looked really cool. Sorry Fairmont.. I had an "86 Mercury Sable LS, 3.0 V-6. Built it to increase fuel mileage. On the cheep. Low restriction muffler, K&N air filter. I cut a functional NACA air scoop in the hood. Had front body work damage and I modified a Taurus grill and light assembly from a donor car. It was a piece of work! And it was my piece of work. The only one in the world! It got over 30 mpg on the highway and over 20 day to day! Made me happy and it was fun to drive!
@Vader1957
@Vader1957 9 жыл бұрын
You need a 1985 5.0 out of a mustang. 1st year of the roller cam, last year of the carb. It will be almost a 100% bolt in since both are fox body.
@ericthecarguy
@ericthecarguy 9 жыл бұрын
Vader1957 I'm thinking the same. Let me know if you know of anyone that has one.
@Krithusful
@Krithusful 9 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy If you're looking for a donor engine, I don't think the mustangs are where you should be looking at. The ones from 91-98 Explorers are where you should start looking. They come with a set of GT40P heads which flow a lot better than the ones on the 5.0 Mustangs. I imagine you're doing some sort of top end overhaul so you're going to switch the camshaft to something more aggressive. With the GT40P, you would need to upgrade the valve springs to handle the more aggressive cam shaft. The thing is, if you get an engine out of the Explorer, you're already set up with the EFI components intake to make at least 300 to the wheels. You can save money instead of the carb setup because everything is already there. You're running an electric fuel pump and no mechanical fuel eccentric. So you're already half way there. You do need an ECU from a fox-body that's 89-93. MAF meter and probably 24-30lb injectors. You can get all of this for around 250 dollars give or take on Corral.net or something. This way you don't have to deal with carb problems such as altitude adjustments at the track, or just colder temperature starts, fuel economy and better efficiency.
@greghowe676
@greghowe676 9 жыл бұрын
If your looking for one of those engines Id suggest trying copart.com cars go for real cheap on there
@Krithusful
@Krithusful 9 жыл бұрын
Once again, don't go for those 302's. Getting one off the Explorer tends to have all the go fast parts.
@Hoovie59
@Hoovie59 9 жыл бұрын
This is the most exciting thing to come to EricTheCarGuy since the mullet delete!
@PoorManMods
@PoorManMods 9 жыл бұрын
awesome stuff, cant wait to see the build! if you ever want/need a hand id love to come out and help you, im not too far away
@devolutionrc8016
@devolutionrc8016 9 жыл бұрын
That would be so cool seeing two of my favorite car channels gtg for a vid or more :-)
@patrickwilson9261
@patrickwilson9261 9 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhhh jugyu
@ComicalCowboy1911
@ComicalCowboy1911 9 жыл бұрын
Eric, way to keep it old school man! I just about had a seizure when you said 5-speed! Good for you in keeping it raw n simple, yet most importantly, fun! Can't wait to journey through watching this build!
@rusco321
@rusco321 9 жыл бұрын
A haltech ecu should be able to run an ecoboost engine.
@ericthecarguy
@ericthecarguy 9 жыл бұрын
rusco321 Nope. Also, don't forget the cost of that engine would be more than 10K before I even got started.
@AttilaThebung
@AttilaThebung 9 жыл бұрын
A Haltech /probably/ could do it. Their guys are freaks.
@83FB7
@83FB7 9 жыл бұрын
ThatGuyOnCoke The problem most people don't realize is that the standalone ECUs, to my knowledge, can't run direct injection yet along with the twin independent variable cam timing(TiVCT). There's more complexity than people know of. Once Ford Racing Performance Parts releases the control pack for the 3.5L EcoBoost, it will make that swap easy as cake(relatively speaking).
@AttilaThebung
@AttilaThebung 9 жыл бұрын
83FB7 The Elite 1500 from Haltech can do up to 4 independent camshafts.
@83FB7
@83FB7 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent to know!
@WilliamGreenlee
@WilliamGreenlee 9 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy Like the plans! I can appreciate your realistic approach, too many guys try to do crazy stuff and they never finish it. Btw, I upgraded my foxbody from 3.27 to 3.73 gear ratio (8.8) and was very pleased with the results. First gear isn't tooo small and the rpm's on the highway were low enough at 70 that I can do long drives without issues. I was told 4.10's can get too annoying.
@smvuy
@smvuy 9 жыл бұрын
Have you considered boosting the original engine?
@KylleinMacKellerann
@KylleinMacKellerann 9 жыл бұрын
Ford's Farimont was actually Ford's first real effort at the modern car. Oddly, the car was better made and had more quality than the later and glitzier versions.
@userunavailable3095
@userunavailable3095 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you are replacing the suspension. The '78 I learned to drive in only took the tiniest tap to get completely out of alignment. These were also terrible for being light in the rear end when they got over sixty.
@bryanviper
@bryanviper 9 жыл бұрын
You have roughly 553,274 subscribers. If everybody was to donate roughly $0.03 you would have well over your $15,000 budget & could start it even sooner & build something even more crazy. I say you setup a donation account & see what happens ;)
@bryanviper
@bryanviper 9 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy
@razvan43
@razvan43 9 жыл бұрын
I don t think Eric will do it.Maybe one of us open the account to see what happens.
@marioiacolucci
@marioiacolucci 9 жыл бұрын
+razvan43 yep who knows?
@NGinuity
@NGinuity 9 жыл бұрын
We had a Fairmont wagon that was our family car growing up. Absolutely ran it into the ground. I have really bad memories of the paint intermittently coming off and it being a nasty blue and primer camouflage. My brother accidentally shot out the two rear windows and they were replaced... with plywood. Everytime we popped the hood, something in the vacuum system got bypassed, and miraculously it still ran. Got rear ended at low speed by a Peterbilt. No damage to the car, mangled the chrome bumper on the Peterbilt. I've got nothing but respect for this car. In regard to making the computer work with a new engine, it's easier to satisfy an ok range condition than reprogram the ECU. I did this when I made my sleeper back in the 90's: A 1976 Ford Pinto with a V6 engine out of a wrecked LTD. Biggest issue was the springs I had to swap out for the heavier load in the engine bay from the previous and crappy 2.3 in it. I do not advocate doing this on an ECU that has valid systems that need to be measured, but you can generally get a computer to think something is attached and operational by feeding it a valid measurement voltage, easy to do with a few cents in resistors. Pulse measurements are a little trickier but nothing a 5 dollar microcontroller can't fix.
@ericthecarguy
@ericthecarguy 9 жыл бұрын
Let's talk about my plans for the Fairmont. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn_ac3qBm5WHma8
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 9 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of putting the battery back into the rear? Is it about weight distribution? Because to my knowledge, it doesn't seem to make any sense to have the main battery anywhere else than in the engine bay (but my knowledge is limited).
@ericthecarguy
@ericthecarguy 9 жыл бұрын
Seegal Galguntijak Yes, weight distribution and also keeping it's temperature more constant.
@jeremy3798
@jeremy3798 9 жыл бұрын
Seegal Galguntijak You put the battery over the passage rear wheel for better launch
@david9527
@david9527 9 жыл бұрын
Gauges would look good on the glove box angled to face the driver, battery in the back, more room in the engine bay :)
@Seegalgalguntijak
@Seegalgalguntijak 9 жыл бұрын
EricTheCarGuy Thanks for explaining. I hadn't thought about temperature issues with a normal lead acid battery, but I guess they are there, depending on what it's used for (although you don't have much to power it in the final car, with all the manual stuff, LOL). About the gauges: I really think this car should also have a tachometer, even if it isn't absolutely necessary. And I am glad you chose the manual, I love driving standards, and I hate it that even here in Germany, where the most cars were manuals for a long time, with the newer models, the different types of automatic transmissions start spreading like a disease... (Hell, we can't even get the newest Subaru Outback with gas engine + manual transmission, only CVT, just the diesel is still available with a shifter).
@sparkeysmall
@sparkeysmall 9 жыл бұрын
don't forget about the roll center on the front suspension lower arms (probably upper as well if possible). since the rear end is a live axle you don't have to worry too much, just get an adjustable trac-bar to properly center the axle and keep it aligned properly. but the front lower ball joints need to be spaced an equal amount lower (with the overall drop in ride height.) to allow the control arms to articulate like they where initially designed.
@sparkeysmall
@sparkeysmall 9 жыл бұрын
forget about the rear tracbar as i just realized its a 4 link.... get adjustable arms. and independent suspension is definitely not the way to go.
@Panzer1981vtr1000sp1
@Panzer1981vtr1000sp1 9 жыл бұрын
Eric, i am so looking forward to this! I cant wait! Nice choises...you will have lots of fun, nice vids and a very nice car! I am doing a kinda same project like you and trust me, its fun! BMW E30 going M60B40 V8. But i am working 6 days a week and sadly dont have that much time for the build....but little by little it will get there. Love your vids, solid true informations! I am a bikes master mechanic here in germany and all the things you say about stuff are technical correct and your teaching/preaching is perfect! You would have been a very good technical instructor at automotive schools! Keep up the good work! Best car channel ever! ETCG FTW!
@sashoxxx
@sashoxxx 9 жыл бұрын
This is going to be sooo freaking awesome when you get done. And I bet that the whole build, and you know, the videos that will come out as a product of it, will be a huge blast not only for your viewers, but for you as well. That experience of the build and modifying the vehicle, and then driving your own modified creation - priceless. You deserve it though. Hope for the best.
@PowderRide34
@PowderRide34 9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you're able to gather the budget to do this right. Looking forward for the build to start!
@bradnaylor
@bradnaylor 9 жыл бұрын
I just can't wait for it to come all together... I am excited about this build... I'd love to see the look on people's faces when they get left by this car! Especially when it rolls up quiet and smokes 'em with the cut outs... I recommend Flowmaster hushpower series... Nice flow but very quiet!
@davidhealdjr.513
@davidhealdjr.513 8 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of doing a 3.8 to 302 (327) swap in my 85 LTD, which is also a fox. Enjoying these Fairmont videos.
@__baggy
@__baggy 9 жыл бұрын
So pleased this is going to happen! I like the plan of keeping things simple, and old school.
@2-old-Forthischet
@2-old-Forthischet 9 жыл бұрын
My dream car ever since high school (yes, it was that long ago) was a 67 Bulllit green Mustang. After my son graduated from college the search commenced for a project car. Luckily for me, I came across one that was already built with ALL the goodies (and I do mean All the goodies) being sold by an eccentric car collector for a down right low price. I gave it one test drive and forked over the cash that day. I never had to do any work on it except usual maintenance and my high school dream was fulfilled. Back to your car. Thank goodness you have a two door and enough said about that. Congratulations on going the three pedal route as a cool car, sleeper or otherwise, is not cool IMO unless it has three pedals. One thing I have to comment on is the electric exhaust cutouts. If you are going to have tubular headers (full length preferably) then it will sound cool but if you keep the stock headers, those cut outs will probably sound really lame. I have heard others with stock headers and it reminds me of the ricers running coffee can mufflers. Good luck and looking forward to your progress.
@rogersmith1021
@rogersmith1021 9 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah another tip Eric, one brand of tire that never let me down is the BF Goodrich Comp TA ZR. I think now they call them the Comp g-force. They are very reasonable in price. I used to run those on my Mercury Cougar, my old 82 Capri, and even my BMW 528.
@thunderballz74
@thunderballz74 6 жыл бұрын
This was my first car! I had a bondo'd grey, 4 speed transmission and a red interior. It cost me 450.00! Not one problem and I drove it for 2 1/2 years! Great starter car or at least 28 yrs ago when I turned 16!lol
@craigflanagan1
@craigflanagan1 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, On the topic of exhausts, here in Australia we have Varex exhaust systems made by a company called xforce, they do exactly what you explained by having a switch on a key fob that adjusts a solenoid in the exhaust system to bypass the rear mufflers. I think this would suit your build and also save you from custom-fabricating it yourself!! Love your work too mate! Craig
@SunilChauhan-qu7xw
@SunilChauhan-qu7xw 9 жыл бұрын
The plan sounds awesome Eric. Can't wait to join you through your videos with this build and see the final result.
@Lxdeez
@Lxdeez 9 жыл бұрын
I was a huge mustang junkie. Always been in love with the foxbody. But I recently got me an ls1 ss and I love it! But this series has got me really interested. Can't wait to see how everything turns out. It just may give me that ford spark again lol good luck Eric!
@loganlake4522
@loganlake4522 9 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a project car right now too and just the very way Eric went about planning for this I have a lot of respect for. Only complaint is I have to wait so long until I can see him get it going lol.
@BlownF150
@BlownF150 9 жыл бұрын
For the brakes and in light of already going to a 5-lug setup, I would look at sourcing the parts fron an SN95 or NE Cobra. Very inexpensive upgrade for very good brakes. Not as flashy as the aftermarket stuff but will have no problem hauling that car down to a stop without drama. Plus OEM parts.
@moofushu
@moofushu 9 жыл бұрын
Eric The Car Guy I blame you for starting my fascination with old cars. Thanks to you I have fallen in love with the 1964 Ford Falcon. Do you realize how hard it is to get a Ford Falcon? They aren't growing on trees sir! It sucks loving a car you can't have.
@TateKiedis
@TateKiedis 9 жыл бұрын
Eric really, really, REALLY knows what he's doing. This build is going to be simply fantastic.
@wileecoyote4028
@wileecoyote4028 9 жыл бұрын
Please consider a 4 barrel carb, and 4 speed manual. FYI, some 1983 Mustangs and Mercury Capri had 4 speed manuals. A second gear 65 mph capability is the ultimate sleeper! Looking forward to following up on your progress. Great vids by the way.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 9 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've been excited about the Fairmont since you first showed it. It might end up being a nice driving car with decent power. even if you keep the body stock but just lowered, at least paint it some other color.
@TheTruth27536
@TheTruth27536 9 жыл бұрын
Eric, sounds like you're pretty set on your build, however I want to offer up my 2 cents. 1) I noticed that your power steering pump is a Saginaw unit. That unit in itself is a very efficient unit in comparison to the pump Ford went with into the later models. In the Ford truck arena, it is a very hot commodity. If anything, you could send the pump off to have it rebuilt and keep some sort of power steering. They are very difficult to find at parts stores nowadays for Fords. 2) A Ford 3G alternator from mid to late 90s Fords is the most common upgrade on Fords. In stock form, they are 130 amps. You can get them for a dime a dozen.
@ryansauto93
@ryansauto93 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome Eric! I am super excited to see this build take shape, I think it's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
@JacobFrey
@JacobFrey 9 жыл бұрын
Eric, I love the plan. I truly hope you get everything you want for your car and I can't wait to see the videos!
@xanderlander8989
@xanderlander8989 9 жыл бұрын
Yes Yes, YES! So glad you're not doing the ecoboost, what a headache that would be. I love the sleeper look and side exhaust ports. Manual steering is the way to go imho, but I've always had power brakes, so I can't speak to how manual will be. Re-engineering the brake system is really the only bit about this that scares me. Hopefully the work you're doing to fund this will not involve sponsored ad videos :) Looking forward to this project!
@Blazer02LS
@Blazer02LS 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting. I'd do the exhaust a bit different but it's your beast. One item that might help, pull the front sheet metal off and set it aside while you build. Keeps those annoying dents and dings from occurring during the build, and allows more access.
@emtffzartman666
@emtffzartman666 9 жыл бұрын
First of all if I was not already a subscriber, I would be for this build. Second, as you went from section to section of the car I said to myself what I would do... And sure enough you are planning to do EXACTLY what I would do to the beast.. Can't wait!
@RamblinAround
@RamblinAround 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've really thought things through. It's going to be interesting to see it come together. I'd recommend going with a Tremec TKO five-speed, instead of a "world class" T5. The T5's durability is questionable, when you put any serious power through it. Really looking forward to this...good luck with it.
@GettinJunkDone
@GettinJunkDone 9 жыл бұрын
This is just awesome. Looking forward to seeing this build in progress.
@TheRedboy1195
@TheRedboy1195 9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to start on this project Eric good luck with it Eric
@laohantun7404
@laohantun7404 9 жыл бұрын
Good plan....you can make it, within budget,time frame. Just don't tired yourself.
@tomswinburn1778
@tomswinburn1778 8 жыл бұрын
If you're losing the power steering a larger diameter steering wheel is a very important addition. And won't ruin the "sleeper" aspect of the build. Were I younger and flusher I'd like to build one very much like you're doing. I'm way past the age of a complete rebuild. And I ain't got Leno's money. I like.
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 9 жыл бұрын
I'll have to talk to my neighbor. This whole video I was thinking about his '67 Ranchero and the endless hours we've spent talking about cars. I don't know if he's considered tubular components like you have Eric to lighten things up, but to be sure your video will be an incredible conversation starter with him! He has the 302, just like you plan to. He'd love to get up in the 400+ HP area with lightening up the internals with aluminum. He wishes he did when he had the money 10 years ago and he chose the 302. Even more power is available with boring and stroking the engine, but I think you don't plan to do that. And to be honest, long term that might be best. You can't open up the engine again later if the bore gets worn. Once you've oversized your pistons, I'm thinking you can't ever do it again. You'd lose the engine after it got worn. (Please good audience correct me if I'm wrong on that.) He's a fan of the 9" rear end as well. He's older and retired so the 9" rear end just keeps sitting there instead of going in, lol. He also really wants to update the front suspension to something modern. It'll cost him about $1500. With him being retired, we might just have to live through your videos and dreams instead of our own for his car. You couldn't have done a better video that connects me to the loveable old man across the street. :)
@milano61
@milano61 5 жыл бұрын
I kept it simple also. '70 Maverick, 302, 600 CFM Edelbrock carb and intake, iron GT-40 heads, shorty headers, AOD, 3.89 9-inch. NO COMPUTERS! Dead reliable. And fun.
@erichelfrich1011
@erichelfrich1011 7 жыл бұрын
Just dont get why you would go through all of these mods, literally rebuilding a car like this that is so old. I'm certainly not going to loose any sleep over it but 10-15 k for this kind of car is really crazy. Live and let live applies here so good luck with this. I love your videos in general and have used them many times in the past. Thanks Eric
@bluebulk
@bluebulk 9 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS BUILD! im currently building a 81 ford granada (fox) instead of v8 swap though i bought a turbonetics turbo for my 3.3l. just did my battery relocation. cant wait for the next update!!
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 9 жыл бұрын
If you switch to manual steering, you should put skinnier tires up front. I loved the manual steering in my 82 Mustang, but it was a 4 banger with normal skinny kind of tires. It had non-power brakes too which gives great feel when driving the car, it really was fun driving that car.
@mogtube1980
@mogtube1980 9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've done some research, but I had a 97 Mustang GT that ate two T-45's before I got rid of it. That was after they'd upgraded the transmission from the T-5's that they'd been having problems with for years. Those 80's and 90's model Ford transmissions were notoriously bad. That being said, I have 106K on my 04 Mustang GT with the TR-3650 and no complaints. Haven't seen the negativity associated with earlier transmissions from other people either, and they both bolted up to the 4.6 which is a small block like the 5.0, so I think the parts are interchangeable. Of course you could always go with the T-56 which is more or less bulletproof, especially considering you're doing the rear gears anyway and you'd get 6 gears instead of 5. I'm excited to see the plan play out. Good luck.
@andrewcz8871
@andrewcz8871 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, do you ever look back on this video and chuckle? Honestly, the project seems cooler now than what you originally described. Those happy accidents and unforeseen issues had a purpose. Keep up the good work.
@edspencer7121
@edspencer7121 9 жыл бұрын
You will need a doner v8/4cyl mustang to cut the attachment points out of the engine compartment for the lower engine mounts to bolt to. It's not a hard swap to cut out and graft this part of the chassis. Torch'n'welder. 4 and v8 fox chassis use the exact mount locations in the engine compartment where as the in line 6 attachment point is farther forward. Did this in my sisters 1982 mustang when the 4cyl puked! Swapped an in line 6 into it with the manual 4 speed attached. As it was a manual transmission in the Mustang to begin with. That's another good thing about your swap the transmission mount needs to be swapped out for a v8 cross member to accommodate dual exhaust. Should be able to get that aftermarket. Good luck. I'll be watching this one!😆
@parnellitube
@parnellitube 9 жыл бұрын
The gauge cluster from a 79-86 Mustang will drop right into that dash. Some even came with that fake wood grain. Earlier ones had green backlight and later switched to red. Of course the all have the 85 mph speedo :) Then again, you could just get the bezel and supply your own gauges, since the stock ones are bimetallic. You can also get the clutch/brake pedal assembly from the same vintage Mustang.
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 3 жыл бұрын
EXCITING sounding Build!!! Even going Old School with a Carb and Manual Steering. That Rear Diff is not only open junk - but early Fairmonts had 6.75" GEARS!! Barely enough for the 88hp 6, or the 96hp Pinto 4. Yeah, 8.8 is a must! ..... Once I had to do a quick Axle swap in my Fox Mustang. This guy had a 7.5" out of his Fairmont, so I knew it would get me home..... I COULDN'T SHIFT OUT OF 3RD GEAR, because the Fairmont had 2.27 GEARS!! 😳😲 I'll be "netflixing" this Series tonight. 😉 Carmine ✈🚂🚙 You've got this Old Fart's full attention!
@01FozzyS
@01FozzyS 9 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Finally it begins! Can't wait for future updates,Eric!
@Bannota4ever
@Bannota4ever 9 жыл бұрын
Now days a 400 BHP + is a real sleeper...Good luck with the build ... & keep up the good work.
@nbowling10trio
@nbowling10trio 8 жыл бұрын
this is the exact build I'd like to do! I been seeing some turbo ls swap builds but keeping it all Ford is the way to go in my opinion. can't wait to see final product!
@rhkips
@rhkips 9 жыл бұрын
Hotrods: They don't nickel and dime you to death; they $5 and $10 you to death. I'm really looking forward to watching this build series, Eric. I disagree with a couple of the things you're doing, but it's not my car, and you're passionate about it. In the end, that's what's important. If there's anything I can do as a viewer, please don't hesitate to ask! This is a project I'm happy to support! :-D
@MrPietjePukpuk
@MrPietjePukpuk 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plan! This is good information because it's easy to forget some element or not think it through in advance. Looks like you got it covered altough 10 to 15K might be a bit optimistic. Depends on how much you can score of a donor car. Good luck with the build, it will be fun to watch!
@GammaCruxis
@GammaCruxis 9 жыл бұрын
YES! Nitto rubber for ETCG! You will not be disappointed - I've been running Nitto's on my cars since I could drive. I have Nexen N3000's on one and NeoGen's on the other. If not Nitto then I would go Yokohama for sure. Best of luck on your build! :)
@hofzeiowa879
@hofzeiowa879 9 жыл бұрын
I seriously can't wait for more episodes! I love your channel as well as your Fairmont
@mopardude6969
@mopardude6969 7 жыл бұрын
After all the laughing about Fairmonts is finished, just take a trip back in time. Bob Glidens Fairmont was whippin EVERYBODY'S ass in NHRA pro stock. Awesome videos Eric!!
@adrianrodrigoguitar9482
@adrianrodrigoguitar9482 9 жыл бұрын
This project is one of the most coolest things I've ever seen. I'm very excited to see some work on that car. You have really good taste with the mods, I agree on almos everything. Great channel, you deserve my subscribe!
@desertfox2020
@desertfox2020 9 жыл бұрын
Borla ProXS may be good mufflers for you. They're very deep sounding but they don't produce a lot of noise outside of the vehicle. You could get a nice sound when cruising around town but only you could hear it. That way, it wouldn't make enough noise to spoil the surprise for when you open the cutouts
@Polaventris
@Polaventris 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an excellent project planned! Can't wait for the build to start.
@benzrider85
@benzrider85 9 жыл бұрын
can't wait to see this come together! Thanks for the preview!
@the_cheese
@the_cheese 8 жыл бұрын
Love the idea of body-colored steelie wheels, but have you thought about a 'dog-dish' style hubcap instead of a polished chrome? A 70s Ford dog-dish style would be good camouflage on a sleeper like Oliver.
@ChaosRender
@ChaosRender 9 жыл бұрын
Doing all the same stuff I want to do. I'm very much looking forward to this build. Keep up the good work eric
@MikeCostanzo12
@MikeCostanzo12 9 жыл бұрын
You sir have a way with words! Lol. I'm really excited for this build and can't wait for videos. It'll keep me motivated on my never ending 1989 Trans Am GTA project.
@SirDeanosity
@SirDeanosity 9 жыл бұрын
I miss the Fairmount I had for a while. One of the best riding cars I ever owned. Something popped in the cooling system and then it was no more.
@neathway382
@neathway382 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to finally see somebody rebuilding/modifying an older car and NOT putting a computer in it. Thank you.
@7eduardoep
@7eduardoep 9 жыл бұрын
That exhaust idea is awesome I would love to do something like that.
@johnwrench4speed
@johnwrench4speed 9 жыл бұрын
Here are a few ideas that have come to mind: Since you are planning to use a 302/5.0 small block engine, (I assume a long block) plan on using a stroker engine (e.g. 347 cubic inch). Additionally, don't be married to Ford Racing for the engine unless you can get one for free. There are lots of other suppliers that may be more competitively priced. Sticking with the engine, carburation is going to be the easiest installation but consider one of the new speed density EFI systems out there for drivability (may be a budget buster though). With regard to the transmission/rear axle ratio set-up, since the Tremec 5 speed is an overdrive unit go with the lower 3.73 ratio rear end. Additionally, you will want to stay with a mechanical speedometer for easier installation. To save money and aggravation, get the brake/clutch pedal assembly from a Fox body Mustang at a salvage yard. Should bolt in without have to make any modifications. With respect to your wheel size, the thing to keep in mind is overall tire diameter. You can have a 14 inch wheel or a 20 inch wheel with the same tire diameter. Good luck.
@iowndisturbed
@iowndisturbed 9 жыл бұрын
reaally super happy you decided to go with the t5 5 speed. excited to see this build
@TamiyaRunner
@TamiyaRunner 9 жыл бұрын
A thought on gauges... Another benefit for going fuel injected is you can get a racepak gauge set which directly plugs into your OBDII output. It's /literally/ plug and play, very minimal setup.
@anothersiguy
@anothersiguy 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great build, can't wait to see this car come together.
@losi8ightyew
@losi8ightyew 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree on the carb! I miss them. Only ones who dont is the ones who didn't know how to tune em!! Plus they sound so much different than EFI. They have almost a choppy cam idle, well once again depending on needle settings.
@tzmndvl75
@tzmndvl75 9 жыл бұрын
I would hold off on the subframe connectors until engine and transmission and rearend are done. They will be in the way when trying to remove transmission. Put some on my Firebird and it makes removing the transmission impossible. Also look for the bolt in kind easier to put in and easier to take out for maintenance issues.
@ssz28envy
@ssz28envy 9 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you said you want to add some electric dumps. That's my idea with my 88 IROC. I want to make it a sleeper as well. So, quiet, stock looking duals coming out the back, but when i want to scare the shit out of someone, hit that switch.
@reptilion590
@reptilion590 9 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man. I put a ford 8.8 with 3.73 gears and tracklock limited slip in my jeep. Its great however i highly recommend a tighter limited slip clutch pack! Mind you im pushing 35 inch tires but it still one wheel peels. Mine came out of a 2004 sport track explorer so it had disc brakes on it. Good luck and nice build!
@keepitcool12
@keepitcool12 9 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're the best Eric! So stoked for this!!!!!
@bunning63
@bunning63 9 жыл бұрын
Lovely steering wheel..., agree with your choices except make the wheels as stock appearing as possible. Personally, I would still go for power steering, just makes life a little easier. In another ten years or less, you will agree with me! Don't worry about those that will tell you that you won't get your money back, it's not the point.
@bdagle
@bdagle 9 жыл бұрын
Eric! Wonderful plan! I like it a lot and will be following along. However, one point that you should consider. The strut towers in the front, and the shock towers on the back. Are notoriously weak. Even with the stock set up, they have to be beefed up. Going to the coil over struts, is going to put a lot of stress on these. Think seriously about how you are going to beef them up? Brendan
@potaka79
@potaka79 9 жыл бұрын
Eric you need to check out the i6 turbo Ford Falcon Motor I believe it is exactly what you're looking for. This motor is from Australia & trust me you will not be disappointed, plus less weight over the front wheels so better steering.
@theoriginalafroninja
@theoriginalafroninja 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, love that you're finally working on this thing. Swap in a 4 rotor fire breathing monster. That would be hilarious to see in a Ford.
@klc317
@klc317 9 жыл бұрын
Nice plan, sounds pretty solid and uses readily available parts. This should make for a whole pile of new videos! Will be watching for sure. Keep an eye out for the '95-'01 Ford Explorer 5.0s in the salvage yards. They have engine accessory drives and other things made to fit in a tighter space like the Explorer engine bay. Parts off of those make excellent candidates for engine swaps. Also, they have 8.8 rear ends with disc brakes that you could use the disc brake mounting parts off of to swap into a Mustang 8.8
@YOURREALBALLA
@YOURREALBALLA 9 жыл бұрын
I am really digging the whole set up Eric, I my self have done three builds in total now 86 f150 with a twin turbo Rb26 engine, 1990 chevy show truck, and a Nissan Skyline for drifting but now im doing something really weird... a 85 Lincoln Town Car Lol im going to try to make it the ultimate light to light sleeper so far iv kept the carbureted 302 put a 9 in rear end posi of course and I also have the exact same tires as you plan to put on your car... looking forward to watching your project build.
@Wtrxprs007able
@Wtrxprs007able 9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this build!! Good luck Eric my man. I think for a steering wheel, you could go for those old school styled Nardi Wheels. I think they could fit this car perfectly.
@dufftime
@dufftime 9 жыл бұрын
all these planned upgrades: wheels/tires, suspension, brakes... getting very excited! looking forward to all these vids. please try to keep everything as "ford" as possible, if that makes sense.
@benjamingazdik
@benjamingazdik 9 жыл бұрын
But your car is going to feel GREAT!!! Non-power steering, non-power brakes, a great engine, a GREAT differential (although the axle might be a little bit of trouble keep the rear end in check, not a big deal though), great suspension feel due to great wheels, tires and coilers, and last but not least A 5 SPEEEED!!!!
@MicrophonicFool
@MicrophonicFool 9 жыл бұрын
I think you picked the most reasonable options available all said. The 302 makes perfect sense given the mustang similarity, Carbuerated is also a choice I was hoping for. Nothing against EFI, but simplicity is it's own reward. Hopefully you are able to find a stang of that era to provide some of the parts, even better if that donor has some of the go-fast things already implemented. I'm a little concerned about the budget only because some of the brake and suspension parts you mentioned are not at all cheap. Lastly, I love the idea you have for the steel wheels. I often find that people make the worst choice in tires/wheels when doing this sort of customization. Especially being sleeper, it's cool to have something both old-school and new at the same time and doesn't totally give away the concept. When it comes down to it, this car outwardly is so pedestrian looking, that any kind of custom wheel would probably look Totally dumb. I'm looking forward to seeing this thing happen.
@11094DEREK
@11094DEREK 9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're not putting a 350 in it I like to see Ford engines in Ford vehicles that's just me looking forward to your build and good luck hope it woks out the way you want it
@keyblade2121
@keyblade2121 9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see what all happens to this car. Itll be a really good video series. Personally, I'm more of a Japanese import car guy, but I also love old muscle cars. I just never have had the money to fully restore one. haha Keep up the good videos, and I cant wait for the first episodes to come out!
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