The Fall of Pokemon’s Greatest Special Wall.

[@jimothycool]

I ranked every Starter Pokemon. You won't believe my Incredibly Controversial #1 choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omOygqqQq6umgLs

[@XParasiteOctoling]

Dang I hate to see that my man James Pond sucks.

[@ivanlol7153]

imagine telling someone in 2019 that blissey would be outclassed by a quagsire form at being a special wall

[@nottharunzzzz]

people would call you “insane” and a “faker”

[@violebanshee]

I think it'll come back after home with toxic

[@sythrus]

@@violebanshee prob not. Apparently moves get un-learned now when transferring from home

[@scrunkore]

​​​@@violebansheetransfer moves haven't been allowed since gen 8 and now they'll get deleted upon transfer

[@GravityIsFalling]

Quagsire is now a special wall on UU? Damn

[@BiffTheBanana]

In a way, I'm glad that Iron Fellow used his team's tera type, now once we save Pawmot, Great Tusk can go all out against Iron Mugulis

[@TheGoldenSmeagol]

Neutering Weavile was just cruel. Taking away Pursuit, Knock Off, and Triple Axel? Still hurts.

[@grunkleg.2934]

They couldn't even let it keep Throat Chop. It needs to use Night Slash for physical Dark STAB

[@jackpez.4526]

Look at how they massacred my boy

[@dragonslayer7724]

not only did they take away his favorite toys, they made an older brother that completely outclasses him in every way as an ice/dark physical attacker

[@Boamere]

Yeah what a mistake

[@SoftwareLearningify]

Hopefully sneasler will stand up for its brother’s bullying Edit: AND IT DID! I’ve barely seen them used but they overpowered af i use it so much

[@Timeflow_X]

blissey actually has had teleport since its introduction (it gets it from chansey who learns it in gen 1), the reason it became important in gen 8 is that teleport changed from being useless to being a switch move

[@brainfreeze3793]

Bruh the intros has more plot twists than FNAF lore.

[@Le_Talent]

Gonna ping MatPat

[@memes77387]

Lmao

[@stretchpunchbeef8982]

Not exactly an impressive benchmark

[@bigpoggers6507]

I mean, as a dude who has spent way too much time learning the lore of FNaF, there aren't many plot twists, it's mainly just really confusing and hard to find the lore

[@SuperNintendawg]

Read a book

[@matto-san1629]

I fucking love the stories you do before the videos, absolutely amazing and always get a laugh out of me

[@lorebanjo8516]

"DEY TERK OUR JERBS!" -Blissey talking about clodsire

[@koharuyuuki3162]

I don't think Flamigo is up for the job of hunting down Iron Fellow. Since it's a paradox form of Spoink, it may or may not have a Psychic move up it's sleeves which is extremely effective against a Fighting Type like Flamigo.

[@lickyro1234]

my wild prediction is that flamigo will be summoned, fall to iron fellow, and when pawmot is eventually found and uses revival blessing flamigo will be revived instead of great tusk

[@Magic_Ice]

@@lickyro1234 but doesn’t it hold a leppa berry

[@senny-]

At 27k subs, Flamigo will get access to Tera

[@AC-xq4hh]

I sense an ambush

[@yungmuney5903]

Not until he tera dark

[@gouthammahesh3298]

Came for the great pokemon content, stayed for the even better storylines. #remembergreattusk

[@the_bookworm8281]

Other notable losses for Blissey is no longer having access to Aromatherapy or Heal Bell, as well as the nerf to the PP of recovery moves. It does have Heal Bell listed as an egg move, but there is currently no way to have Blissey learn Heal Bell at the moment.

[@usedpidemo]

It’s kind of cool that there’s a bunch of viable Special Walls now like Clodsire and Skeledirge, but also sucks that Blissey fell off hard. They really did it no favors with stuff like Good as Gold and Purifying Salt completely neutering it either.

[@CelestialCurrent]

Bro really said that skeledirge is a special wall.. I’m dead.. ☠️

[@dakuwaizu695]

@@CelestialCurrent Anyone can be a special wall if they put their mind to it

[@CelestialCurrent]

@@dakuwaizu695 aye that’s pretty true, didn’t think of that, but with that being said I’m finna cook a recover Chien-pao team in the kitchen. My stepsis finna act the fuck up when she smells this, support would be appreciated ;) Edit: don’t even with the sweet home Alabama shit, what I mean by stepsis is my gf I just like calling her that, LOL.

[@vey4339]

@@CelestialCurrent nah u strange for calling ur gf step sis

[@CelestialCurrent]

@@vey4339 at least I’m genuinely able to pull unlike you, bitch and wine all you want LOL.

[@ellieporter3270]

Iron fellow is quite dastardly, using his terastalization like that. We are facing a truly nefarious force here, let’s all remain safe and on our toes. As someone who hasn’t ever played comp before this gen, this channel has quickly become a favorite. Thanks for all the informative content!

[@Rarest26]

We all know the main reason for it to drop was so RU had defensive answers to Iron Mugulis, so the playerbase 4D chess'd the system so it could be used to stop this menace.

[@RascatoNantako]

starmie has been OU for 6 gens and fell due to tapus and general power creep. it's saddening.

[@hoshi314]

eventually all the old kings fall out of OU, the question is whether the old kings fall with grace or like weavile : with lost limbs and guts (outclassed and losing knock off)

[@Surgemaster2012]

This is why I think the way to improve balance is to either give the mechanics a rework or balance buff Pokemon that need it. There was no reason to nerf Chansey or Blissey, especially when I feel they served as important counterplay pieces in metagames. They always make it to where you just couldn't dominate with offense. It feels like they are making the game too offensive and nerfing any kind of defensive option. I can maybe see toning down aspects of stalling since nobody likes that, but they went too far. And the way gamefreak treats their older mons just to promote the newer ones isn't good balance, it's basically them replacing old pair of socks with new ones. Blissey I found wasn't as annoying as other defensive pokemon because there were more easier ways to play around her passivity, it's just the utility she provided was good on top of her bulk. There are way more defensive pokemon who capture that annoyance of stall more than Blissey and without as exploitable weaknesses.

[@denizmergen418]

Ok but sTAl bAD

[@xx_squirtle8621]

What I find even more odd is the fact that this was 100% uncalled for. If TPCi is really balancing around doubles, where historically these kinds is playstyles are practically nonexistent, why do this?

[@malakimphoros2164]

​@@xx_squirtle8621 Chansey stall did exist in VGC at one point

[@GravityIsFalling]

Allow me to explain why bliss was nerfed So first let’s establish the biggest nerf, no more toxic, no more wish, no more teleport Well none of those moves existed in gen 8 bliss either, they are transfer exclusives moves GF isn’t removing transfer moves because they want to nerf bliss, they’re doing it because transfer moves have no effect on VGC, so why bother keeping them?

[@felixdaniels37]

​@@GravityIsFalling Transfer moves actually have a significant impact on VGC. Eruption Heatran dominated VGC for a good while despite that being an event exclusive from Pokémon Ranger of all things. Hell, Endeavor Raichu even won the World Championship once. Still, even if it does impact VGC, that's not really a good excuse to go scorched earth on the idea of transfer moves. It's just yet another way for Game Freak to sand off the more unique aspects of this series.

[@peterh2223]

I would assume that Mabostiff would be a better mon to eventually face Iron Fellow. He can go on the Stakeout, and act as a Guard dog to protect Rabsca, the other revival blessing pokemon. His Dark typing will give him key resistances to Psychic and Ghost moves, which a terastalizing Spoink paradox form would likely have.

[@TrulyAtrocious]

Moment of silence to the fact that this guy has an insane 40% subscriber rate The Mugulis lore is the best idea any Showdown youtuber has ever created

[@blomgaming6480]

Can we talk about how Toxic was for some reason an almost universal TM so any Pokemon with no poisonous traits at all could learn it

[@carucath97]

Now Umbreon can’t even learn it despite its Pokedex entry saying it secretes poison (it can learn Thunder Wave now for some reason lol)

[@alexpotts6520]

The way I felt about Toxic being a universal TM is that it was balanced by Substitute also being a universal TM, so any attacker could for the cost of one moveslot run extremely effective counterplay, with a move that had plenty of utility besides just blocking Toxic.

[@blomgaming6480]

@@carucath97 Thunder Wave is also a move that shouldnt be so spread, i kinda get Will o Wisp because its a magic fire thing but Thunder Wave cmon

[@darealbingoxz1142]

@@alexpotts6520 lmao a stall Pokemon doesn't mind having toxic on their miveset, but substitute taking up a moveslot for you know, offence moves is terrible

[@alexpotts6520]

@@darealbingoxz1142 Bro, we literally just saw Shed Tail banned. Obviously that move has a lot of perks that vanilla Substitute doesn't, but are you really going to pretend that the substitute effect isn't very powerful by itself? Everyone who has played competitive Pokemon has at some point lost because a strong Pokemon managed to hide itself behind a substitute and became too hard to take down. It's a really solid move with plenty of offensive and defensive utility. Obviously it's not a move you stick on every Pokemon's moveset just because it's a universal TM, but literally no move is like that.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Iron Mugulis actually used its Tera on Iron Fellow, so now Iron Mugulis can't tera Flying or tera Ghost to avoid Great Tusk's attacks When Flamigo rescues Pawmot, Great Tusk can annihilate it and Iron Mugulis will totally not land a Fissure

[@pepeknight]

What a fall. I'm confused why Blissey was nerfed so badly since its basically nonexistent in VGC. I understand losing Toxic and Wish (this was a 2003 event move LMAO), but why remove Teleport and Heal Bell? What's worse is IIRC that Heal Bell is an egg move Blissey gets, but has no other legal partners that get the move LMAO. I do wish we get Move Tutors when the DLC drops. Also would like to see you cover "Glue Pokemon", essentially Pokes that keep the tier from going into hyper offensive chaos like Lando, Great Tusk, Heatran, etc.

[@Silancet]

an employee at gamefreak played showdown for 10 minutes and encountered stall.

[@GortinTime]

This specific tier shift for Blissey is less of a power creep and more of an unfavorable meta, like, sure Blissey lost toxic and that's a hard nerf, but even if it still had it Great Tusk and Iron Valiant still exist.

[@leonardobarbosatelles2779]

I hope someone can provide us with an HD image of Iron Fellow, just like they did with Iron Mugulis. That sure would help Flamigo identify the criminal

[@guardian_OfEden]

I'm surprised it's Iron Treads' "enhanced vision" that's being used rather than Luxray's. I'm sure Luxray could have found Iron Fellow first try with it's X-Ray Vision, and Tera Ghost couldn't save them from Crunch.

[@tictacctical3030]

Iron mugulis is like the fnaf to your matpat

[@lulu82o]

I swear the lore around the intros is just as good as the videos themselves

[@kevinromero3746]

Not only it lost wish, toxic and teleport, but also heal bell and counter so now really cant OHKO anything

[@bigsammichthoughts]

It just makes me sad that Tyranitar isn’t in OU anymore. It’s been his home for 7 generations

[@dastardlydwarf6909]

Hopefully when more sand abusers are released with home the king can return to his throne.

[@vey4339]

"hopefully" the same thing happened gen 8, ttar will return with excadrill

[@trickstercj4366]

Ngl the only reason I'm here is for the lore. Your competitive vids are great and all but the quest to end iron mugulis is truly the a plot for the century

[@CoralReaper707]

Poor Chansey and Blissey. I would unironically support the idea of them getting not just their old utility moves back, but also some significant movepool buffs and even stat buffs. Those stats could only be enough for so long...

[@Avatapaxn]

Time for Blissey to follow in Toxapex's steps. Offensive Blissey meta is NOW. Make it happen.

[@AmoniPaleo]

Blissey is just pokemon equivelent of Humpty dumpty. And just like in the story, Humpty falled down and cracked... :"C

[@kaleido9631]

I follow competitive Pokemon like normal people follow celebrity gossip.

[@Aquilenne]

I've been really enjoying Modest 252SpA/152SpD/104Spe Blissey with Ice Beam, Psychic, Fire Blast, Softboiled. Basically you give up on ever trying to take a physical hit, but even without hp IVs or natures, Blissey still has more than enough Special bulk to go around, meanwhile, 75 Base special might not be a lot, but psychic punishes both Great Tusk and Iron Valiants that think they'll get a free switch in doing enough damage to drop offensive variants into death by Rocky Helmet + Rough Skin range, while having just enough special attack for Fire Blast to outspeed and 2HKO 4 speed IV Corviknights. As with any slow pokemon with a glaring weakness, it's very reliant on predicting your opponent's switch-in, but it catches enough people off-guard that their first switch-in before realising what it is that they're facing is typically very obvious based on team comp.

[@guccigengiskhan3787]

Relying on Flamigo is a mistake. Due to his suspect test, the pokemon police are watching his every move, and what if one of them are on Iron Fellow's side? We need to get the superior Scrappy pokemon, Mega Lopunny, out of retirement to stop Iron Fellow

[@cylland5060]

That only means I can have Blissey on my beloved RU tier

[@Utsu-P_Enjoyer]

This just shows how bad power creep has gotten, it's like an avalanche rolling down a mountain at this point

[@chupitrooper5878]

Blissey's niche in SV Ubers is definitely a silver lining to the cloud that is its recent drop in usage. I personally don't mind it as it allows other defensive mons a time to shine in tiers where its line once reigned. Like they say in The Sound of Music: "When Arceus closes a door, somewhere he opens a window."

[@about7grams]

Has anyone ever done the quest One Small Favor in OSRS? The Iron Mugulus story feels like that. "Yeah we can find Mugulus. But we need great tusk, which means we need pawmot. And for that we need iron treads. But he can't see tera ghost, so we need flamigo with scrappy"

[@tsawy6]

There was an old lady who swallowed a fly...

[@about7grams]

@@tsawy6 I'm so sorry you had to go through that 😔

[@supremeoverlordfallen5]

The intros literally teach kids which ability does what, while entertaining us.

[@midend]

we should hire growlithe to do odor sleuth instead!

[@InfraredGod]

I say have Hisuian Typhlosion hunt down Iron Fellow and revenge kill it for giving it a useless Hidden Ability in Gen 9, then have Typhlo team up with the people who helped stopped Iron Mugulis and Fellow to demolish the next threat. Btw Typhlo is my fav Pokemon, and I’m sad he got the worst signature move and ability out of the hisui mons 😭

[@fonsie19]

Dude it's insane to see how well the search for iron mugulis is actually increasing, brilliant strategy my man, you do deserve it all tho

[@EliteTrish]

Flamigo should terrastalize into the dark type and use stab throat chop against iron fellow

[@Nadid_Dhrabb]

Iron Fellow turning tera ghost is definitely one of the top 10 anime plot twists of all time

[@vyor8837]

For OU blissey go with Counter, Soft Boiled, Amnesia, Blizzard/icebeam, and then a focus sash. Switch into a special attacker, heal off the damage from uturn or volt switch or whatever, then click counter.

[@achillyday7882]

man blissey has really fallen off, but iron fellow is still UUBL after 7 generations, i wonder how this happened

[@obiwancannoli1920]

Another reason might be that there arent that many special attackers compared to physical attackers in ou

[@blazie42069]

Also Jimothy, you forgot to mention the nail in the coffin for blissey, the recovery move pp nerf

[@jimothycool]

True

[@dVector13]

just when i thought it couldn't get any better we get iron fellow

[@hahawowawesome]

One of my favorite blisseys ever was a Gen 8 blissey that ran counter ice beam soft boiled thunder wave. Many Landori were punished for rocks and uturning. Maybe a video about strange yet viable move sets would be cool.

[@SeventhGod77]

Heracross, scizor, and excadrill are the three Pokémon fall-offs that hurt me most. Especially heracross.

[@ThirdXavier]

Honestly Wish Blissey should have really never been legal since it was only obtainable from a 2004 in-person event where it also came with a random nature and IVs. The amount of legit wish blisseys or chanseys that actually existed and also had perfect IVs and the right nature could probably be counted on one hand. It was really a Showdown only thing.

[@a2g108]

My god, don't you guys see how smart Iron fellow is? Our heroes : Great Tusk, Pawmot, Quaquaval (all fighting types) Only Iron Treads is capable of beating him. Clearly Spidops is behind this

[@hamburger6209]

Clodsire is epic

[@ShadowKibago]

My favorite has to be ttar, i don't think theres hope for it returning to ou even after home and the dlc adding more mons to the meta

[@danieljennings9617]

I think there is. One of it's biggest issues right now is a lack of sand abusers, if enough good sand users get added to make sand teams viable then ttar will likely be back on top

[@justcallmeleonardo]

@@danieljennings9617 Not with home tho. No sand abuser is coming back, aside for Lando incarnate who is super banned for sure and prefers it's non-sand reliant ability anyways. Here's hope for the dlc. Tho I'm not sure how many old sand users could be effective this gen

[@jreddie92]

The loss of pursuit hurt it a lot. Pokemon like Dragapult or minus 1 Gholdengo would be hard pressed to face pursuit Ttar. Just to name a few.

[@abbad707]

@@justcallmeleonardo Excadrill exists.

[@justcallmeleonardo]

@@abbad707I know. In gen8 it sucked. It was UU even with Ttar being OU. The same can happen in gen9.

[@neodarkknight42]

Was that Tinketon nickname a reference to Big Balls Bobby Baratheon?

[@h4roeverynyan55]

I like using a blissey set with Seismic Toss, Ice Beam, Stealth Rock/Thunder Wave, Rest I feel like you don't actually need Soft Boiled, since after you healed, there's a really good opportunity to switch out. The good old Ice Beam spam in the hopes it freezes the foe is also really good, because you threaten every pokemon no matter what. Your opponent either has to play around, or deal with it. You can go for T-Wave on mons that you can't stay in on or just take stealth rock to save yourself another slot.

[@ryanj.gregory4859]

What would be a celebration of the downfall of Blissey has sadly been quashed by the unfortunate news of troublesome Pokemon Iron Fellow's reign of terror. Here's to hoping that Flamigo can get the job done.

[@zayway4659]

WAIT JIMMY JUST ASK DELCATTY TO USE FORESIGHT. Then we'll have a powerful ally due to its normalize ability and being able to hit and see ghosts due to foresight. All we have to do is summon her from Hoenn

[@Smart1529]

I miss Snorlax, Alakazam, and Rhydon being top tier Pokemon. Sad times but that's what happens if older Pokemon don't receive anything new and important.

[@suly5836]

Slowking is living Blissey's dream.

[@DishyLemon]

Flamigo needs to chill out. I could listen to this lore all day

[@Rhy2412TitanGamer]

Blissey is weird. Sometimes it's not used in OU, but is used so much in Ubers. It goes to show just how effective it's role actually is. Remember Psyshock was used to indirectly nerf blissey & it still gets used lol.

[@MrKingHyena]

I'm still sad about tyranitar, the longest continuous stint in OU finally comes to an end

[@rayyaninspookymonth1630]

Stogon hates small now?

[@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy]

Yes, Stogon does hate small

[@gelamity]

Day ??? 7: It appears that Iron Fellow has kidnapped Pawmot. It is unknown what it will do to it, but we all know its a threat considering how it may be related to Iron Mugulis. *We need to keep pushing on.*

[@fungalPS]

Cool egg you have there. Unfortunately, 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 316-372 (48.4 - 57%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO

[@jackpez.4526]

Iron Fellow is a menace 😤😤😤

[@techknight3753]

You missed out on one of the big things that kept Blissey from finding it's place in higher tiers this generation. The (almost) universal recovery pp nerf; which single handedly would have limited Blissey's success this generation without the additional nerfs.

[@MrCheeze]

It's pretty funny that it took 18 years for one poorly-thought-out event move to finally get patched out of the series. RIP Wish Chansey, you never should have existed.

[@winter_mint]

if only pursuit were still in the game. tera-ghost iron fellow may not have been able to escape so easily.

[@bennconner1195]

I’ve come up against clam mind defence curl Blissy. If it gets set up it can be very hard to brake through b

[@ZeeRAZM]

This guy's intro had so much lore.

[@orangeaurora]

something i always thought was interesting ever since the start of the gen is archeops. like dude is on-par with the ultra beasts and paradox mons BST-wise but still has to deal with defeatist. without it, as far as power creep goes, i think itd be interesting to think about what would happen with a no-defeatist archeops in gen 9 OU, or if at least defeatist's drawbacks were heavily reduced. smn else to consider is that in the modern gen 1 meta, where you can use gen 2+ pokemon in gen 1 custom games (where abilities are ignored), archeops isnt banned, like how the other achilles-heel mons like slaking and regigigas are, its actually top 5, hanging out with walking wake and iron valiant. also i like archeops cus hes a funny bird so itd be cool if u could give him a look maybe

[@Eibarwoman]

There's actually a game where Archeops has lost Defeatist called Pokemon Community Game, and it's considered as one of the best Pokemon of its' trade tier.

[@danriley3770]

Gen 9 did walls likes blissey dirty.

[@aiezar]

Ain't no party like a Blissey party.

[@Swagtildawn]

Its very rare for one person to offer up valuable competitive Pokemon information AND drop insider lore on whats REALLY going on in the world. Spectacular

[@nintendolife25]

First Tyranitar, and now Blissey. Gen 9 truly is the pinnacle of power creep. Thank you Jimothy Cool for the video!

[@DetectiveBarricade]

Clearly what happened to Blissey is Iron Mugulis. That thing's a cruel monster...

[@Octobeann]

Please continue the Iron Mugulis plot arc

[@chrisfacchiano7356]

On the bright side since iron fellow Tera ghosted they can’t Tera anymore

[@jimothycool]

Excellent point.

[@BananaReidy]

By losing toxic and GF hate for stall is what killed it.

[@chess_fella]

Blissey moment

[@drschwandi3687]

The power creep is insane this gen

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

It's not even power creep. It's the fact Gamefreak went out of their way to neuter Pokemon like Blissey at every turn

[@blip88]

jimothy we need farigiraf to use odor sleuth on iron fellow

[@The_Psycho_Red_Ranger]

In Gen 5 it's actually OU by technically. Meaning it's not recommended for serious OU play but the generation has long since passed and dropping it to UU means it might (strong emphasis on the word "might") be too powerful for UU. For it to be tested in UU smogon needs enough players to play that tier so that they can gather data and see if it's banworthy or not which is something not a lot of players are willing to do.

[@adithyanss6989]

YAAAAY! Competitive battles are not annoying anymore.

[@RShurr1can3]

I miss gen 5 ou. Equipping this with a focus sash and clicking counter was so satisfying.

[@prutprut6324]

My man you gotta wrap this arc up soon.

[@hxlize4913]

i dont think having great tusk on 60% of teams is “power creep” per se and i would expect to see blissey in future generations again

[@racg174]

thankfully weavile is back in OU now

[@nahte123456]

Blissey is not a victim of power creep, it has nothing to do with power. There's now just Pokémon that completely counter everything it does. Those aren't the same thing. But my favorite fallen star is Celebii, just love the little guy.

[@MogusMasterSaikawa22]

I never quite got over that chansey got an evolution since I prefer chansey to blissey so I'm not too bothered but still

[@MogusMasterSaikawa22]

you should talk about how bad sandwichtwo is compared to mewtwo

[@OneMoreDesu]

Gamefreak: "Let's make all these cool pokemon but make 90% irrelevant in one generation" Jmmythcl's Comment Section: "Great idea, lets call anyone that think's that's stupid a genwunner"

[@ginwilliam7763]

Wasn't teleport blissey from an event like nearly 20 years ago?

[@tysondennis1016]

RIP Blissey’s high tier viability

[@pookiegaming75]

Do you think you could do a video on another specially defensive tank in florges and why its so lackluster despite its good stats and typing? thanks

[@Justpassingby204]

Watch Blunder’s new video with Florges in it haha

[@Imitationist]

Losing wish really hurts its role as a wish passer. I guess bulky eeveelutions are the way to go now since they can wish pass?

[@Agent-pd6wx]

Paradox jigglepuff is good