The FASTEST Wireless PC Gaming Controller? - FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro

[@PeaceLoveDadGuy]

I've had this controller for about 4 weeks now. It was an impulse buy after seeing it for sale before it was officially released.. This was right before i was about to buy a Flydigi Direwolf because of your review of that awesome Dpad.. (thanks Kaiser!) OG gamer from the 80's here and I've tried quite a few controllers in my time. Now I'm in love..it has the same dpad as the Direwolf and much, much more! The Vader 3 Pro is simply perfect for my +30 year Tekken love affair. This is the way.. (edited to add some details...and TEKKEN :D)

[@kaiserdostuff]

There's still a lot of room for improvement. Next gen consoles probably need to work better with their controller.

[@PeaceLoveDadGuy]

@@kaiserdostuff Keep it up, Boss! Great work!!

[@blorbb5398]

OG gamer? What was your first gaming device?

[@PeaceLoveDadGuy]

@@blorbb5398 Intellivision.

[@BouncingBallGames]

Dude, I need to say what an excellent and competently done review this is. You’ve absolutely smashed it. Covered everything thoroughly and explained it well. Fantastic work man 👌

[@isasitis9685]

Not all. I didnt hear thumbsticks sensitivity compare with none pro version and dualsense, for example. But in overall, good job.

[@topgeardo]

you are the most complete reviewer OUT there really you cover all the aspects of the product even price.

[@antxnioo]

To me 10% is the best deadzone. 5% still gives the left stick a bit of stick drift, but 7-8% doesn't, but that's too sensitive to my liking. 10% registers inputs when I actually want them to register them.

[@StormEagle5]

I wonder how the Apex 4 will do compared to this. If I hadn't already returned the 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth and kept the gamesir t4 kaleid, I would be tempted to get this, but prices aren't as cheap for the controller and charger to the UK. I got the kaleid for under £50. My dream controller would be hall effect sticks and triggers, 1000hz wireless and wired, clicky tactile buttons like the eswap x pro, good backside button placement, xbox ergonomics, a relatively blacked out aesthetic, and a breakaway wired cable in the box. And not awful to repair and find replacement parts. I'm loving your videos, but when it comes to the charts sections you sometimes move on too fast and/or the labels are too small. If you're in need of saying something to add a few seconds, you could compare the controller's performance to one in a similar price range. And another handy feature when it comes to reading the charts would be a bar which empties to show the transition to next slide. Gamer's Nexus does this for their benchmarks, and it's useful for if the viewer needs to pause and look for longer, rather than go back and find an earlier timestamp to see it.

[@kaiserdostuff]

I'll take that into consideration. Tbh, I feel it fast too. With KZbin current content trend now moving content fast and speaking fast, it always about finding balance to cramp as much information, yet keeping viewer on screen.

[@kevinstoops7216]

My Apex 3 got really bad drift after 2,5 months. They wanted me to send it back to China at my own expense... I'll only go hall effect now.

[@adamantorb]

I did a file comparison check with that intrusive “driver” that its trying to overwrite. Turns out to be exact same file when checked with beyond compare. Keep up the good work with your in-depth reviews.

[@kaiserdostuff]

I think they just want to make sure, for whatever system, everyone using the same driver. There’s no reasonable reason to go that way instead they can provide a guide in FAQ if users ever need it.

[@Rionu85]

my god how you are only have 668 subscribers is beyond me, count me as a new sub, you rock kaiser.

[@sousaptak]

This is the best review bro, I wish all the best for your channel !!!!

[@Gods267]

I've been waiting this video since 2 days ago when I discover your channel, thank you for making it!, could you do one with the wired controllers?

[@kaiserdostuff]

I will try!

[@wraith4793]

Thank you for the high quality review I'm curious about the approximate battery time 😛

[@kaiserdostuff]

Testing. But it survived 5 hours session per day.

[@xrexxergaming5934]

Awesome review! Very informative. I just found your channel and I'm pretty sure its gonna blow up soon coz what you're putting out is quality. Please do a review of the Apex 3 Elite too! Or if you already have it, what do you think about it?

[@kaiserdostuff]

I will wait for Apex 4, especially for a wireless controller since what FlyDigi put in Vader 3 is still new.

[@hxmfn9371]

Such good content, so detailed and helpful. Been searching for a new controller, which do you think is better overall, if compared with xbox series controller?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Do you have xbox? because this doesnt work on xbox. For PC and Switch, it's kinda solid. Just make sure you bought from somewhere with good return policy.

[@hxmfn9371]

@@kaiserdostuff nope, for pc use only

[@realislit8064]

6:45 the impulse triggers work properly when uts connected via bluetooth

[@raonialbues]

Nice ! Bro, it is possible set the rapid fire without the software ? Thanks, watching from Brazil.

[@RetroChibii]

3:03 gulikit king kong pro has a better Test Circularity (0.5 Avg Error both sticks).

[@guillermoenrique5489]

Thanks a lot for the great review. I saw that you test several brands of gamepads and I would like to know if the mobapad brand and your purple Huben M9 controller is good.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Sorry but I've never tested Mobapad brand, it's a bit expensive, Huben M9 is $90! Some of common complaint I've heard is ABXY button is a bit flush. I can see why since the buttons are on flat side style.

[@xparrixthetrader5155]

wooooow!! your my new idol now😁😁😁 by the way, can you remappes the ABXY buttons just like the inverted BAYX buttons on nintendo switch?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Can

[@xparrixthetrader5155]

@@kaiserdostuff thank you soo much.. your such a big help.. PowerOn!!!

[@jesusiskingofkingss]

it saddens me that its impossible to find a review or a statment by the manufacturer about if the axby buttons are pressure sensitive, thats all that i want to know and pretty much the only difference that these off-brand controllers have

[@user-cx6rg6mr7d]

many complains the vader 3 pro has connection issues if the reciever are blocked or 5 feet away from the gamepad?

[@kaiserdostuff]

I dont get this issue on long range test. But, my usual placement for usb hub is quite near to me as well.

[@user-cx6rg6mr7d]

@@kaiserdostuff thank you !!

[@frng97]

Do you think the wireless charging dock is needed or just for aesthetics? I own a series x controller but still tempted by the zoro special edition

[@kaiserdostuff]

Nope. it's really just for convenience of charging. You can always get it in the future.

[@frng97]

I dont know if you deleted my previous comment just wanna reflect that overseas customer should beware buying the zoro special edition

[@frng97]

The zoro nose is wrongly printed for most customers from what i see including myself and trigger problems could occur

[@frng97]

Just get the vader 3 pro normal black edition since its cheaper

[@Rock79529]

Which adapter would you recommend to make it compatible with Series X? I was thinking the Mayflash Magic X?

[@estradasvirtuais2105]

The pricing for this one is strange on my region. It doubles the price when you choose the option with the dock.

[@kaiserdostuff]

The one that I picked was with different third party merchant. Dock from another seller and controller from another. The dock pricing can go weirdly expensive. FlyDigi has AliExpress official store, but they are slower to stock and unreasonable expensive. Over here, their official store is more reasonable. Just a tips, search for deal around twin date, like 7.7, 8.8, etc or around festival. Chinese store usually has platform discount. Also, never pick economy delivery.

[@topgeardo]

@@kaiserdostuff kaiser what about the economy delivery, I live in south america and want to import it to US.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@topgeardo i never have good experience with economy delivery. Took way too long compared to standard shipping.

[@rpnmen1785]

Hi! As always, a great review!

[@kaiserdostuff]

Hey, thanks!

[@LosGuardian]

Hi Kaiser, if the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2/Vader 3 Pro/8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth were the same price and the main platform of use for myself would be PC, which would be the better buy in terms of feature kit/build quality/comfort?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Vader 3 Pro, despite it's flaw. Or I will wait KK Pro 3. They hype that controller a lot.

[@bladerc8362]

Should i buy this or the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2. Maybe you can make a rating (1-10)if the controller after every conclusion. Thanks great video.

[@kaiserdostuff]

For now, this or 8bitdo Ultimate BT.

[@Zwim]

Very good review, subbed

[@mizanhamdan1758]

Why my flydigi software can't detect my game even though i have apex legend on steam. Pls help😭...

[@nnhuy5295]

vader 3 pro vs 8bitdo ultimate BT, which is better?

[@misterkrab674]

vader 3 pro лучше

[@ShiRoNeko7195]

Great and detailed review, curious to see how this would compare with the mobapad chitu

[@michaelknight2342]

I own the mobapad but not the vader: - sticks on mobapad are pretty good, as is battery life and shoulder buttons - - they actuate anywhere you press - software on mobapad is non-existant for pc, and hot garbage on Android. Also, while a b x y buttons are clicky, they are completely devoid of tactility and when pressed, sit flush with the case (!). Connection to pc over bluetooth is ~12ms latency. I have not found a way to disable rumble (it's not supported by most android games/emulators anyway) or update the firmware through the app (tried it on a tablet and phone, always failed at 3% so i guess i'm stuck at firmware 1.11). Also, the Mobapad connects to pc, iOS and android by either emulating a switch pro controller, xbox controller, or as 'mobapad pro-hd', each giving you different compatibility for different apps. when you instead pair with the always visible 'mobapad' - which is their solution to have the controller connected to a device while also being connected through their app (which hardly ever works), the controller simply turns off.

[@michaelknight2342]

oh, and of course the mobapad is not natively supported by rewasd. You may think at this point: "fine, i' ll get its bigger purple brother (m9) instead": no, you don't. it has alps instead of hall-effect joysticks. Well, at least the battery isn't a proprietary format while also being soldered to the motherboard like the 8bitdo ultimate, so that's a plus. Also, the d-pad is clicky, and not completely terrible. tl;dr: chitu's weaknesses are software, a b x y buttons, firmware, 12ms bluetooth latency (best case), lack of gyro (at least on Windows/Android, unable to test other platforms) and lack of analog triggers

[@ShiRoNeko7195]

@@michaelknight2342 Appreciate your reply about the Chitu. I ended up grabbing a Vader 3 pro which cost only like 10 bucks more expensive than the Chitu couldn't be happier with it considering it had 1 year warranty and more function than the Chitu (Gyro also works on PC) and the switchable analog and digital trigger is🔥and seeing how both the software for both controller sucks, I'll just call the vader 3 pro a winner here

[@K1RA2077]

Great review!

[@kaiserdostuff]

Thank you! 🤗

[@nevoburi]

Thank you for your very detailed reviews. just one correction, there are 3 colors available. Besides black and grey, there is a dark green pro version. And i have one question. Is there a way on this controller to limit the circularty, like with the Gamesir T4 Kaleid in the software?

[@kaiserdostuff]

so far.. no.

[@nevoburi]

@@kaiserdostuff Uff, but could be, cause software is getting worked on, okay. Thx for the reply. I just got the Controller cause of your video, thank you man, it is the best controller i've got ever, by far. Have a nice week (:.

[@ryangreen4169]

Are any of the macro buttons customizable on the controller itself without the software? Also watched your Machenike G6 review and currently own one, would you recommend this over that?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Yes, but giving credit where it’s due, G6 is far superior in wired mode. Also, FlyDigi never have on the fly macro record. So, it’s a bit of playing favorite child here. If G6 and G5 Pro price more competitive, I think can recommend it. It just they price it 30% more expensive than competitors.

[@reyjedi3586]

Great controller but they should have lost the swappable thumbsticks. Mine are starting to get the annoying click already in the thumbsticks. Mind you, I've hardly used it. Gonna return it for the last time. Gone through a handful of them now. Kinda over the hype. Edit: oh and the centering spring is too weak for the sticks as well. It'll stretch out and get sloppy super quick. Especially for heavy users.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Right. I also get that annoying click.

[@Broyyyyyy]

Hey good video. Just curious since theres not much about this problem online.. but why is this controllers latency so bad compared to others? On GamepadLa it shows all the total latency even beyond just the polling rate and the VP3 has some awful results, like 10ms and up for wired/wireless 500hz results whereas the gamesir T4k for example is a true 1-2ms at 1000hz. Some controllers apparently are very deceiving! Even the Apex 4 at 1000hz is bad😭 can you help explain why? I just ordered the VP3 to "upgrade" from t4k and now im not sure lol

[@kaiserdostuff]

Vp3 is not great with wired, 2.4 GHz just outperform the wired VP3. T4K is better if you just want pure 1000Hz. During the test, I also pick the most common sample out of 20 to 30 sample and measurement is done after the movement has started. It also the result I have most confident on its reliability to be presented. Just to add, different system can have different response time. The important is to compare relative performance since different person may produce different result but the trend rarely different across devices on the same reviewer. I have Apex4 and it’s my main. Never released a video about it. I just caught up with jobs… 😭 I don’t think you should worry, because it is an upgrade from T4K to VP3 in wireless department. Your internet latency will kills you before your controller lag. KKMax also did exceptionally well at 1000Hz wireless but the device has other kind of downside that make it not worth my hand.

[@Broyyyyyy]

@@kaiserdostuff I prefer wireless anyway so its ok. And yes the T4k is certainly fast, according to Gamepadla its the 2nd fastest controller available in the world (at least fastest of all the controllers completely tested in their database) just behind the 8bitdo Ultimate as the fastest, this really surprised me so Ive been looking into it since, I urge you to check out their website for yourself if you'd like. In my original comment I'm not sure if I clearly conveyed what I was trying to say, basically we're normally testing for synthetic results that don't necessarily reflect the true input latency of the controller, so while the polling rates are accurate (and important), it appears there's much more to consider when it comes down to it. That being said, unfortunately Flydigi's 1ms or 2ms claims seem like marketing BS now to me. Here's the vid that points out the testing showing much more input delay ms than the poll rate would suggest --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioPKYYigj9xnndE I think this info needs to become more prevalent within this community where gamers place so much importance on input delay, a controller like Apex 4 is NOT cheap and one of its biggest selling points is 1000hz both wireless and wired, but it actually averages 7-8ms instead. To be clear I'm not saying this is the end of the world and its now unusable or bad, as you said most peoples internet latency is worse than that, but we cannot deny that this isn't the performance we thought we're getting, and every ms of latency eventually adds up for total system delay which will impact us all differently but its inevitable. I was deciding between Apex 4 & Vader 3 Pro for my upgrade but once I realized their input delay is roughly the same that made it an easy choice for me at least for now, going with Vader since thats 1 less feature the Apex would have over it. I just wish Vader had adjustable stick tension like Apex has, that feature must be AMAZING!! I suppose Flydigi has a problem with total latency happening that they need to fix either with upcoming firmware updates or just on the new models of the future (Apex 5, V4P, etc) but I think they never will unless people like you and other content creators expose the issue. Basically stock xbox controller's latency with only 125hz rate are keeping up with these Pro controllers. Sounds like you been busy which is understandable but I'd love to see a video of Apex 4 from you, I'm interested in seeing more in depth about it's adjustable tension sticks. But with or without this info on the controller's latency is up to you, you already do a lot of comprehensive research with a ton of data in your videos like this one about the V3P showing extra detail I haven't seen elsewhere, which I definitely appreciate. Now I'm just adding more work on top of it Lol but in all seriousness maybe this topic is worth its own dedicated video sometime. If so I think you'd do well in getting the message across better than most

[@Broyyyyyy]

@@kaiserdostuff or a TLDR to put it simply: polling rate only serves as a theoretical minimum input delay but has no guarantee that the data retrieved is recent. It seems Flydigi controllers true input delays are hidden behind this confusion

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@Broyyyyyy yup, your got it totally right!

[@CyyTheGreat]

Is there a way to turn off the C/Z buttons? If so that would help with pressing them by accident or just unmapping them would prob help with hitting it by accident. That’s one issue I have heard of online.

[@Broyyyyyy]

Yes I believe just bind them to a key then upon closing flydigi software that button will just be blank. Keybinds require the app running in the background to work

[@jamesryan3418]

My controller is drifting to the left (R-Stick). I can feel it physically drifting and wobbling. When I lightly push it to the left, it doesn't spring back to its original position. I have to set the deadzone to ≥ 6-7% in order to use it. While the L-Stick only need 2-3% deadzone Has anyone else experienced this issue?

[@topgeardo]

hey how many time have you been using the vader 3 pro so it gives you the drift?

[@jamesryan3418]

@@topgeardo Only two days after bought it:(((

[@NikodemSzusti]

Does this controller have independent back buttons like Beitong Zeus, or older Flydigi models? In previous version (Vader 2) it was possible to assign mouse/keyboard keys to any back button. On many "pro" controllers unfortunately you can only mirror another controller button and I cannot find information what about Vader 3.

[@kaiserdostuff]

You can. as usual, just a single mouse/kb key.

[@geenaxion]

Can you remap the extra buttons on STEAM?

[@chronicmayhem]

once you do all the setting on the PC are the setting saved to the controller so you can close out the software or does it need to stay running?

[@kaiserdostuff]

it's save in the controller

[@86soulx]

im considering between this and T4K i wonder which one is better for me. i dont really need the wireless but its a bonus

[@kaiserdostuff]

T4K. Not gonna lose much, just a few features that most people underutilize.

[@86soulx]

@@kaiserdostuff thanks for the opinion which lead me to get my T4K without further thinking! the T4K just arrived, about 32 usd after conversion from SGD. this is such a good controller omg im very impressed. i spent the exact same amount of money on PowerA enhanced wired controller and the quality is not even remotely close to what my new T4K offers. phenomenal product at phenomenal price!

[@nodayoff1000]

Is the marco record for combos?

[@Dwvtsdgr]

Why are the joysticks off-centered and jittered a little at 3:00? Are they faulty? Do you feel any problem with them so far?

[@kaiserdostuff]

No deadzone setting

[@maurolife]

I'm going to buy a controller to use on my PC, but I'm not sure whether to buy the original Xbox Series controller or the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro. Which one do you recommend?

[@kaiserdostuff]

If you can afford apex, go for apex. Else, i take vader 3 pro. My issue with vader is the stick is too light. Check my long term review.

[@maurolife]

@@kaiserdostuff Does the Flydigi Space Center installer still ask to replace the native driver? I found this worrying. Especially coming from a relatively new company in the market.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@maurolife not anymore. After windows update, it stop ask the question. You can try the mobille app version because it don’t require file system access.

[@maurolife]

@@kaiserdostuff I contacted them by email to ask about this intrusive action of their application. They replied that many of Flydigi's functions are not native functions provided in the Microsoft system, hence the need to modify the system file. But this raises many security concerns, since this is not a normal or recommended action. Furthermore, other manufacturers of joysticks similar to Flydigi do not make this type of modification to the system.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@maurolife yeah. I don’t like it too. As it deals at admin level file, but if that’s a huge concern for you, i suggest vm or mobile app. It always a good practice to separate work pc and gaming rig. Remember, ccleaner was infected once and downloaded on many pc. Even a well known software is open for security issues.

[@RAFAEL_VORTEX]

friend when you did the test of circularity in the analogues did you adjust the dead zone to 0 or did you leave it between 5 and 10? because generally controls with hall sensor analogs usually present 0% error in this test

[@kaiserdostuff]

5%. With zero deadzone it moving around a bit about 2-3%. The test did where I shake the controller was without deadzone.

[@RAFAEL_VORTEX]

@@kaiserdostuff oh yes thanks for the reply friend

[@WarrenKirkpatrick]

Does this work on a MacBook? I know that the Xbox controller works perfectly.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@WarrenKirkpatrick tbh, I never tested it on MacOS.

[@alifcsnajmi]

This vs gamesir g7 se? which should be a better buy (if we're not talking about wireless or wired)

[@kaiserdostuff]

I will prefer wireless, but if both on the same speed, I just pay for G7 SE only if the price is $20 $30 lower. You still get some premium feature despite paying extra on Vader. Both still decent controller at decent price.

[@alifcsnajmi]

​@@kaiserdostuff In my currency there is a big difference betweenboth prices.. About 60/70 (Ringgit Malaysia) Also just discovered you are also from here lol? I mean I did recognize the accent but it's still good that I didn't assume directly at first 😂 Wireless is a nice to have but not really need to have but I don't know Yeah both are very nice especially your testing concludes it's wireless performance to be one of the best non playstation controller The flydigi spacestation software does look really questionable though with that random system level file replacement And I just watched your new video just now, interesting. This will actually be my first controller in my life because I have been using keyboard and mouse for so long but my back hurts and keep screaming at me that I may need a controller for chilling sessions The drifting Issues you mentioned that both gamesir and this controller has making you increase the deadzone is a little price to pay I guess? But I don't know, I probably won't be buying a new controller atleast a year or two after this so the long term usage which you "only" did for 2 months already made you increase the deazone by a couple %.. I don't know if I will be using it alot but I surely will be keeping it for a long time more than it's expected lifespan for something this "budget?" Anyways thanks for the quick response! how about the Fantech WGP14 then? since you do live in the same country right? Or is that brand out of your thoughts right now? The g7se does look like a greater deal in Malaysia (at times) from the price but like you mentioned, may also prone to stick drift even though it does have the hall effect sensor also 😥 I will mainly be using it for pc games I guess? So both is really a great deal for me (flydigi and gamesir) Just thinking about the conclusion between both or something like gulikit. But long term durablity first, features second So both especially the flydigi might look tempting for me? Thanks for the reply again! Mantap brader😆

[@SAM-ef5bu]

Mind I ask how you trigger the vibration manual by click those RT & LT? (06:17 - Haptic Feedback) since I tried do the same stuff like nothing happen.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Game controller tester from app store. 1 star review. It tests the vibration based on the trigger press.

[@SAM-ef5bu]

​@@kaiserdostuff I see. so is it that mean the setting of Flydigi space station vibration function setting isn't working at all? or it only will happen when I play on specific game? since you said you were using Game controller tester app to record that trigger vibration part from video. And sorry I just realized I mistake type RT/LT to RB/LB.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@SAM-ef5bu no no. It works with all games. It's not Xbox Impulse Trigger, so it doesn't work independently. The trigger vibration is just connected to the main motor when you press it. You still need to set it up inside their own software before using it. By default it should be enabled automatically.

[@SAM-ef5bu]

@@kaiserdostuff aw I see

[@just_2swift]

Mk1 pc player here. What has the best D-pad in your opinion?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Flydigi design. Even the cheapest direwolf is good.

[@0123diggi]

thanks for the content.. really good Does DS$Windows support the controller??? Thanks

[@kaiserdostuff]

PC? I don’t think you need it.

[@0123diggi]

Yeah.. I know but because ds4windows has some curves that are great for stickier aim assist in some games..

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@0123diggi I've tested with DInput in 2.4 GHz and Bluetooth, none of them detected by DS4Windows. FLyDigi has their own curve customization, I don't know if that useful.

[@0123diggi]

Thank you so much,

[@0123diggi]

❤❤❤❤

[@huyzen]

Compared to APEX 3, what do you think, Vader 3 pro or Apex 3 , i only play controller with non-competitive games

[@kaiserdostuff]

Both is good. Just wait Apex 4. Might have more improvement than Vader.

[@PPA-NYA]

영상 잘 봤습니다 😆 유익한 리뷰 영상이에요!

[@kaiserdostuff]

Thanks! 😉

[@scorchsc]

Hello! Just a question, is your face buttons still registering with the click after some usage? Three of my vader 3 pro succumb to the issue that I mentioned before (possibly a microswitch problem) and I'm wondering if yours is alright? I did not even use them heavily, just around 4-5 hours of playtime.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Still pristine good.

[@scorchsc]

@@kaiserdostuff guess I got bad luck on three of my copies >.>

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@scorchsc bruhh.... why the heck you get 3 copies??? 😂

[@scorchsc]

@@kaiserdostuff I got 3 of the 8bitdo ultimate as well XD, backup incase one breaks I guess HAHAHA

[@saygeez6381]

this or machenike g6/g5 pro? much preferred wireless mode and considering battery life. price isnt issue

[@kaiserdostuff]

I'll go with this. Not G6, and I don't know about G5 Pro, and I don't favor G5 D-Pad. Check GamerHaven video, he did a review on G5 Pro.

[@saygeez6381]

@@kaiserdostuff thank you so much! ill buy this now, really have trust in your review 🤩

[@mattzeco99]

kaiser Ur channel will attract 100x more viewer if you upgrade your audio setup my brother. Your current one is really not good tbh. Alot of cut off when u talking, maybe cause of noise cancelling.

[@amyshaw6657]

Which one is better between Flydigi Apex 3 & Flydigi Vader 3 Pro? Can you tell?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Vader 3, but I will wait for new refresh of Apex if you’re looking for Apex controller.

[@amyshaw6657]

​@@kaiserdostuffI already have the Flydigi Apex 3 but i'm little bit curious about the Vader 3 Pro. Should get it too?

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@amyshaw6657 naa... Apex line is like their highest tier. The upgrade you get is not big

[@scorchsc]

I really like this controller and it was my go to for the past few days however the A button on mine needs harder force to register, the button doesn't register the same time as the click and needs more travel (microswitch problems). Other than that this is one is really promising.

[@kaiserdostuff]

I’ll be annoyed man if that was me.

[@scorchsc]

@@kaiserdostuff It is quite annoying, hopefully the QC improves for future iteration of this controller since this is actually a genuinely good controller. The graphs are very well appreciated btw, good stuff. I can also see improvements on some broll shots and overall quality. Keep it up man!

[@t_tmad5293]

Have you tried updating firmware through the app?

[@saygeez6381]

Hello Kaiser, may i know if how long your battery last? thanks!🎉

[@raonialbues]

Hi. Bro, it is possible to set the turbo function (rapid fire) without the the software ? Thanks

[@saygeez6381]

@@raonialbues not possible.

[@raonialbues]

@@saygeez6381 Thank you

[@john_punch]

9:47 - Real actual latency mutch bigger. Min - 6.61ms / Avg - 7.85ms Tested with a special device, not software!

[@kaiserdostuff]

So just slow like Xbox?

[@john_punch]

Well, the Xbox has a much higher top latency of 18ms, while the Vader 3 shows 8.35ms, but this is only over dongle, while over Bluetooth Vader 3 has a terrible latency of 48ms. I'm just now double-checking these results myself and will have a full report up the other day @@kaiserdostuff

[@machado5765]

Also, is this better than the 4T Kaleid?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Equivalent, but this is my main now just coz it's wireless.

[@tashmim1923]

Around this budget range should i buy this or 8bitdio Ultimate ? OR any other suggestion ? Casually Gaming ...

[@kaiserdostuff]

In term of confident, I will go with 8BitDo. I have 5 of their controllers. None comes with weird issue except wear and tear. But, 8BitDo construction is very basic while FLyDigi feels more premium.

[@tashmim1923]

@@kaiserdostuff Thats True ... But I Guess Reliability & Longevity Is The Priority To Me 😇 So I Guess By Ur Idea 8BitDo Is Ideal ...

[@tashmim1923]

@@kaiserdostuff Oh , Another Question ... Longevity Of 8bitdo Ultimate vs Gulikit King Kong 2 Pro ? What U Say

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@tashmim1923 8BitDo Ultimate. Hands down!

[@CandarianGaming]

@@tashmim1923 I personally haven't had any issues with the Flydigi vader pro 3. In fact it's so good I just sold my 8bitdo ultimate controller and I'm now selling gulikit controller also. Just don't need them

[@raul1642]

No QC issues beside this one 7:38 ? like people claimed

[@kaiserdostuff]

So far in the comment, people have random issue with ABXY buttons.

[@raul1642]

@@kaiserdostuff thanks man

[@scorchsc]

kzbin.info1mTzsiqjb7Q?feature=share You can see the microswitch problem here that is present on two of my vader 3 pro

[@raul1642]

@@scorchsc thanks for the info man

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@scorchsc return it? Kinda bad for me..

[@kalvesfranco]

Vader 3 Pro! What is the real weight of the control?

[@kaiserdostuff]

260g

[@raonialbues]

@@kaiserdostuff Hi. Bro, how to set the turbo function (rapid fire) without the the software ? It is possible ? Thanks

[@bigninja6472]

Is the battery Life really 40 hours as they say ? 🤔🙏

[@kaiserdostuff]

Naa... I played starfield in a single session, 24 25 hrs. After that, it need to charge. Battery size is small.

[@machado5765]

They now have a green One-Piece version.

[@kaiserdostuff]

If they put my game waifu maybe I buy but the price not that much different with regular version.

[@slayredhair]

I've got mine but I choose One Piece Zoro edition. Using it on my steamdeck

[@geenaxion]

Can you remap the back buttons on STEAM?

[@Nameless.Schwarz]

C and Z is usless buttons, why aren't they placed on top of the controller like Apex 2? 😢😢😢

[@alphu5]

I think it's pretty useful for fighting games tho I do agree with the placement being awkwardly placed on the grip rather than on top

[@RuanLuiz2008]

Para android você considera o vader 3 pro o melhor?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Yes. No need to enable USB debugging mode which is a major security risk on your phone. Some financial app don't work in USB debugging mode.

[@nibiru9663]

Спасибо за обзор 👍

[@noobdasquad6015]

Bro iPad 8th gen not supported please help 😢😢😢

[@kaiserdostuff]

Should be. Maybe you picked the wrong mode?

[@noobdasquad6015]

@@kaiserdostuff vader 3 pro

[@willy7968]

@@noobdasquad6015 did u switch to bluetooth mode?

[@al3x2728]

Are the ABXY buttons noisy?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Mouse click noise, doesn't sound too cheap but still audible if you don't use headphones.

[@al3x2728]

Thank you so much!

[@vicious3426]

Does it have Turbo?

[@raonialbues]

Hi. Bro, how to set the turbo function without the the software ? Thanks

[@ByPlaying]

Does it works for Xbox series x?

[@kaiserdostuff]

No.

[@asdsad6]

Is this bigger than xbox series controller?

[@kaiserdostuff]

same size

[@REktSigMa]

PlayStation Edge controller is better. But with DS4 windows all Dual sense controllers on Bluetooth can be 1ms delay.

[@ElySeL]

I have another question, but I understand that the DualSense PS5 gamepad is up to 8000hz if you overclock it on your PC. I want to know if you compare measurements with other game pads after 8000hz overclocking. However, it is also important that the actual latency value and the average latency distribution should be uniform than the polling rate. However, another question is that the Nintendo Switch does not trust the value benchmarked on the PC. For example, if you watch this video ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/opTZYYewZbqoeMU ), when you connect the BigBigWon R100 Pro (Bluetooth) dongle on the Nintendo Switch, you get interesting results when you connect 2.4Ghz and Bluetooth 5.1 to the Nintendo Switch. What I'm curious about is that on Nintendo Switch, I think the overclocked game pad on PC will also be applied to other Bluetooth dongles, but does it really work? It is.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Tried some on 8k, but it doesn't have any different to 1k. Probably it hit the hardware limit. It will not apply to dongle, because 1. You can only overclock on wired and 2. The software setting was saved on PC, not on controller. I tried to overclock the dongle itself, it never works. But, you can make any console communicate faster than default by hacking it (probably a wrong word...) and this is what a dedicated dongle can do. That video is one of many proofs. Adjustable wireless polling rate is not new, it just controller manufacturer doesn't make it a feature yet. M&K has this for a very long time. So, it just a matter of time when this became a default feature, tho still depend on Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.

[@ElySeL]

@@kaiserdostuff

[@exoraid6769]

No one noticed what u were playing on the switch lol

[@Psychotoxic86]

An amazing gamepad, but it loses connection sometimes in wireless mode (((

[@kaiserdostuff]

is it very often?

[@Psychotoxic86]

@kaiserdostuff Very. 1 time in a few hours, sometimes 1 time in one hour.

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@Psychotoxic86 intermittent ehh.. Have you tried changing the port? just use the dongle if you used dock. That's kinda suck. I hope it's not like my case with G6, that controller refused to work with my gaming pc.

[@Psychotoxic86]

@kaiserdostuff Yes, i tried. I hope they will fix it by driver. Cause this is sucks, especially when I play online in fighting games.

[@Psychotoxic86]

And I have flydigi Apex 3, and it doesn't have any problems. An amazing gamepad.

[@mehmetoz1932]

Too heavy for me also looks like cheap and slippery. They need more premium design. It is almost priced like xbox so i will wait other models. Also 9:47 vader hits %30 1ms but ds5 %80 1.25 so ds5 is better here.

[@kaiserdostuff]

I think on latency test, perhaps kkmax is at the top right now. Except USB...

[@TRiPPYDABS]

lol it literally says 3ms on their own advertisement

[@alfhacrack4966]

better than apex 3?

[@kaiserdostuff]

not really, just different flavor.

[@user-ip5lf1ls9m]

Hi, can I play PUBG with this controller . ❤ thank you

[@C23451]

This controller supports 1000hz ?

[@maxburmab7962]

Your videos are so good, you deserve mush more subscribers. But I think you need to work a little bit on your English, sometimes it's hard to understand what you are saying lol

[@mantapdjiwa9768]

Ok2

[@olivierplayer1633]

500 hz ? wow !!

[@kaiserdostuff]

Still slower than mnk.

[@olivierplayer1633]

@@kaiserdostuff slower then what ?

[@kaiserdostuff]

@@olivierplayer1633 mouse and keyboard...

[@guilhermeolympium]

Vader 3 Pro or Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro?

[@kaiserdostuff]

Spec wise? Vader. Durable wise? Vader. Confident wise? Vader. Price wise? Vader.

[@guilhermeolympium]

@@kaiserdostuff Thanks 😎

[@caleasthetic]

another small remark. sometimes your hard to understand, dont know if it is because of your pronounciation or that your sound seems to be overmudulating so it cuts out certain words and sounds.

[@kaiserdostuff]

Mouth fatigue when talking too long, it's a real issue when an introvert speaking.

[@davidbarnard77]

@@kaiserdostuff You're killing it bro, I'm a massive introvert too so understand that. Plus youtube subtitles ftw!

[@pyrogrenade]

What is bro yapping about

[@nautro4436]

мне в пакете пришла

[@REktSigMa]

Just is not anything like mouse and keyboard though. It doesn't matter what anyone does to a controller they will never be as good as Mouse and keyboard.

[@maybebutwhatever]

I would probably buy it if the battery was bigger. Something that lasts at least 20 hours.

[@kaiserdostuff]

I think it's possible to upgrade the battery, coz other FlyDigi controller has generic battery size. Even then it did last 20 hrs on me as a new controller. 1 2 years later perhaps a different story.

[@topgeardo]

they are standard batteries 3.7v you only need to find one bigger that fits inside.

[@reyjedi3586]

Great review, subbed

[@MultiSweetkisses1]

Great review !