The Fifth Magic "BLUE" Explained...The GRAND Battle Between Aozaki Sisters

[@AJLaz000]

it always makes me giggle knowing that Touko is literally eveywhere in the Nasuverse she's the main antagonist of Maho Tsukai she's an important side character in Kara no Kyokai she shows up in Lord El-Melloi II she's mentioned or at least referenced in Strange Fake she was the one who made Shiki's glasses which Aoko stole and gave him in Tsukihime AND she made Shirou's new body at the end of Heaven'a Feel in Fate this woman is a looming entity who is just there but rarely interacts with anyone just because she's like the living definition of "Fear of Missing Out" at this point I wouldn't be surprised if she later becomes the Nasuverse's mascot for the sole reason of her just being IN EVERYTHING

[@flygonkerel781]

A version of her and aoko are in extra too!

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

Touko is the whole reason I am into Nasuverse. She is just that great.

[@AJLaz000]

@@flygonkerel781 I almost forgot about Blue Haired Touko!!! *HOLY CRAP THIS WOMAN REALLY IS EVERWHERE*

[@aljedmarlflores7261]

Yeah, I love her in every universe

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

@@aljedmarlflores7261 🤝🏻

[@nevagongoflawless6340]

Well, fifth magic is blue daba dee daba die..

[@christianp1188]

You a real one for that 😂

[@Dekarowski25]

There is a lot of Carl Jung's psychology in the Nasuverse. The shadow, the multiple personalities of Shiki (male one and female one) and so on. Interesting thing.

[@livanbard]

The true reason why the magic is vague is because Nasu can put whatever bullshit in it later.

[@philbuttler3427]

Well yeah that's how most people write magic

[@Kimi42336]

In my opinion the red shade that Aoko sees is the embodiment of the Counterforce. The counterforce is always trying to stop Akasha from creating something that will destroy the universe and the magics are one of those things. So either it is the Counterforce itself or a specter of the Counterforce signifying that eventually the Counterforce will create a situation where you will be destroyed. Of course this is all speculation and my opinion.

[@ChaolaoFueChi]

Now I'm curious to know who exactly that counterforce is, always thought it was strange we never got to see whoever was under the red hooded robed.

[@Kimi42336]

@@ChaolaoFueChi Well its THE COUNTERFORCE, like it will take a while for me to explain The Counterforce. I'm not sure what to say. The Counterforce isn't a person; just like how The Force in Star Wars isn't a person; but it does have agents. So maybe the Red cloaked figure is an agent of its will.

[@XxxX-kg2pm]

What if it's EMIYA? you know with all that red

[@Kimi42336]

@@XxxX-kg2pm 😂❤️lmao i don't think so Witch on a Holy Night takes place before he's born, also his dad is at best a kid or not born yet as well. I was going for just a specter, like a premonition, but very fitting regardless.

[@Endless_Blade_Works]

​@@Kimi42336 Is it not possible since EMIYA is summoned in the grail war that a much more powerful entity like the counter force can send him whenever it wants? It's all about human tipping points when EMIYA's "asked" to step in, think F/GO and Chaldea.

[@l4h4l11]

This is the Number One channel for Nasuverse lore.

[@yoshikagek.7031]

i couldnt agree more somedays i just rewatch all this shit even the old old breakdowns of servants irl lore

[@kengox77]

This may be your number one channel for Nasuverse lore(no disrespect intended since this is a great channel), but I would also recommend OtakuDaiKun's channel as well for supplementary info on the Nasuverse.

[@SanzuRiver]

​@@kengox77 the problem with Dai is his overall delivery and editing is kinda dry

[@Pridefallen975]

Agreed

[@yoshikagek.7031]

@@SanzuRiver i couldn’t agree more he was the first nasu channel i found, i eventually grew out of his channel but not only does the editing seem very quick cut and dry but it doesn’t emphasize or bring his personality to the forefront but he just sounds very bland and bot like

[@alsosprachzarathustra4756]

Glad you tackled this because ALOT of it felt like gibberish when I was reading through it lol. Good video as usual, respecting the grind

[@guilhermegaspar752]

Came here to understand aoko noble phantasm. Thanks for the video

[@Bakugantsuvai1]

Damn iirc, Nasu has annouced a sequal to Mahoutsukai no Yoru so I hope we get a full breakdown of the fifth magic then.

[@BygoneT]

When? Where? There has been no such news for years. He all but left his other works behind for red garden and fgo.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@BygoneT i would assume after red garden

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

This visual novel is one of my favorite written pieces by nasu. I love each character and the lore is so interesting

[@TsiahIV]

Between Mahoyo and Tsukihime Remake, his republishes have truly been a breathe of fresh air.

[@swindle6644]

Heya Cayde.

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

I hope there is a scenario one day that shows what happens when the "time debt" is paid. That being said, it may have been sent to an undiscernible future where it doesn't even matter and humanity is already somehow long gone anwyays before the debt is paid.

[@lenleon3699]

That is apparently what Nasu wants the Mahoyo story to end in, but the sequel he has yet to release is focused on Alice instead.

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

@@lenleon3699 Oh, I see.

[@lenleon3699]

@@Flamelance_Accendo Pretty much, most of the story materials he has shown over time (and all the little clues he hid in Mahoyo itself) all hinted that his next Mahoyo-related story was about Alice and possibly a little about the Church and Irie (you know, Misaki City’s very own mysterious priest).

[@Tokyocyver]

This gotta be one of my favourite fights tbh

[@thebakalord]

The one thing I noticed about the Fifth True Magic is that it recreates the environment to allow itself to be utilized in its full capacity. Aoko is rewriting that section of the planets texture, similarly to how CHALDEAS has done it but one a very very minor scale in comparison or how Goetia used Solomon’s 1st NP to send the grails in the past. When Aoko fully activated it, it wasn’t just for showing Touko it was to allow the True Magic to become possible to be used. As you said about the Aizaki land being the place where the true magic can be used, she is relaying that lands texture onto where she is. It’s possible she is reversing time on it to that section of the texture where True Magic was possible but Touko and Soujuurou would’ve exploded from the sheer density of Mana and True Ether.

[@karlbenito9992]

Aw yeah, this battle was awesome and amazing well written and visually beautiful

[@ari.b1217]

What if those 5 minutes were put in the future and that's what caused mysterious cataclysm that made the mana dry up

[@TsiahIV]

Interesting. It wouldn't be the direct cause, but it definitely could have been a trigger. As I recall, the Aylesbury Valesti by law, is something that has to exist in both worlds. Aoko may have caused notes with this single event!

[@Zerobasssoul]

She then went on to catch Ws in Melty

[@TsiahIV]

Still one of the best characters even now. You'd think they would find a way to involve Touko too. I guess the storyline takes Touko's banishment to heart. Aoko brought this up in her ending.

[@Zerobasssoul]

@@TsiahIV its ashame but like a lot of these choices in the newer games I'm at least hoping it leads to better story interactions down the line.

[@destinitaylor4360]

This is so funny. I was literally just talking about this topic in the discord a few days ago! 😂 thanks man!

[@johnsai4074]

this scene would go crazy with ufotable's animation

[@hesklairvoyant]

hopefully 2026

[@nofxk]

Ayy I been meaning to research this ty for the vid

[@whyunderstand]

This was very informative and well written thank you

[@JuanR322]

Finally something from Mahoyo. Hope we get more

[@moaz7760]

Was waiting for this one thanks dude ❤

[@michaelcgrigori7823]

What if the fifth magic is entropy control!?

[@el_th0r546]

I've been waiting for this video 🙏

[@hyijtgbtg3864]

@Tsiah IV Great videos man, you made the nasuvers easier to understand. Can you do a video on Zelretch Schweinorg? I know you did one on his jeweled sword but I don't understand the man even after reading his wiki.

[@MDKGunner]

That's because we STILL don't know much about him other than he beat Type-Moon by surprising it with the Second Magic along with him becoming a vampire during the same fight and he made some things that use the second magic like his Jewelled Sword and the Kaleido Sticks along with him having a TON of authority at the Clock Tower and while he cannot use the second magic extensively anymore since his fight with Brunestud he CAN still use it. Also he was involved in the creation of the Fuyuki Grail War

[@Feronen]

Hard bet, we're fixing Aoko's mess in FGO. This is where she put those five minutes.

[@brian_Austin27]

Lmao that would be funny

[@linah1998]

now that she's out on Fgo, I love how they incorporated her transformation into her np and play style

[@Pridefallen975]

The Aozakis are top tier waifus for me

[@SergioBocanegra]

For a second I thought it was the fifth element.

[@Dekarowski25]

I got Aozaki in a "Which Nasuverse Mage Family Do You Belong To?" quiz xD

[@JGood007]

Amazing as always !!! Aoko is bae! I was wondering if its possible to see a video in the future on mage workshops? Ur work in the clock tower vid had me mega intrigued! Either way..good stuff showing love to the fifth magician!!!

[@Brandazzo22]

This is a good video brother Tsiah! I thought Sasaki and Astoflo used the 2nd magic dimensional fragmentation in their native form?

[@Astin-D]

I am somewhat convince the 5th magic is the Azure from Blazblue lol .

[@thirdplanet4471]

Now I want to see how long it would take the counter force to react to the black beast and how the fight with a few counter guardians and heroic spirits would go

[@yourassistant981]

Man I'd love to see you make a video on soujiro. I feel like you could explain him pretty well and he's just a really interesting character man.

[@metaldragon9935]

Can you do a video explaining the difference between a Dead Apostle and Vlad's Legend of Dracula phantasm?

[@lenleon3699]

Technically you should discuss the differences between Dracula and True Ancestors. Because True Ancestors are the real original bloodsuckers. Dead Apostles are familiars the True Ancestors raised… like a Ghoul. Heck, the lowest tier of Dead Apostles are basically ghouls and living Dead.

[@blacklightvirus6101]

Theory:the 5th magic gives you the powers of a god of destruction specifically Shiva

[@Adsuu]

Common Aoko W

[@michaelcgrigori7823]

I am just brainstorming here but something tells me that the magics are responsible for the creation of the nasu multiverse!

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

As Touko simp i will never forgive Aozaki. She deserves getting stuff charged on her credit card 😂🎉

[@lenleon3699]

Nah, Touko deserved getting tossed around for obsessing over magic she could never even use. The moment Aoko used it Touko basically facepalmed at the fact she obsessed over something she had no use for.

[@TsiahIV]

On the contrary, that obsession is what made Touko the phenomenal mage she is today. It just meant that she had to grind THAT much harder for organic results. The story even leaves on the cliffhanger "Technically Touko was the real winner because she forced Aoko to use it".

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

@@lenleon3699 We agree Touko is a Queen and of far more value than fifth magic for this world, as I understand it. Anyways she might end up making a better sixth magic 💅✨

[@onemoregodrejected9369]

@@TsiahIV Yeah, of course she is better suited! But why get second hand dregs when she can go and make her own 6th magic (Shirou body and her replica bodies could trick even scientists looking at dna samples).

[@lenleon3699]

@@TsiahIV Technically it is not a cliffhanger in itself. It is the intended conclusion. That mage battles are not about who defeats the other but rather who obtains their intended result. Their battle is muddled and undefined because neither of them obtained their true objective. Yes, she forced her to use it but Touko truly wanted that final piece of the puzzle that would allow her to open the path to the root (as explained by Aoko herself in the epilogue). In that sense she failed because the Fifth Magic was not that, even if she did manage to observe it. Aoko also failed because she was forced to resort to an option she dreaded and basically created future problems for herself. So the battle had no winners.

[@AllOtakuProductions]

Type Moon needs to sell shirts with your face on it! 👕

[@johnmorrison519]

Can you make a video on fate strange fake masters, thank you.

[@jamaldavis3224]

This is would be Touko's "I'M HER" moment

[@linah1998]

3:24 do Shiki Ryougi's MEoDP count? I always wondered how her's specifically are classified in comparison to other Mystic Eyes, considering Void Shiki is directly connected to the root and a part of it

[@nathaniels.3961]

I think Shiki’s eyes are ESP instead of True Magic.

[@hesklairvoyant]

@@nathaniels.3961 whats esp

[@NewMe9013]

Could you do a video on touko? 🙏

[@jamesgood5265]

got damn interesting stuff

[@luigiminardo9672]

You can only use it if you are from the Gojo clan and have the limitless and six eyes?

[@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw]

welp i gotta turn off this video, found this game time to emulate it, thanks tsiah!!!

[@TsiahIV]

have fun

[@izzymosley1970]

What's the strongest technology that a non-mage could use in a fight in the nasuverse and who's the strongest opponent in the nasuverse a peak human with this technology could defeat?

[@theleechqueen]

The technology of Alchemists of Atlas, namely the seven taboo weapons. They can kill the Greek Machine Gods despite the later's technology being far superior to current humanity. Dust of Osiris is a full human and her Hermes operates with the blood of the entire human race, said to be 7 billion souls. The Philospher's Stones she created can also cure vampirism and death and she was going to use them to rewrite the planet's texture.

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

With just technology? Those burial agency executors can put up and good fight and even defeat top tier servants.

[@raccoonstarsmember]

Is this a VN or does it have an anime?

[@flygonkerel781]

LETS GOOOOOO

[@Asinatorsdaughter]

Can we get one for the 4th magic

[@ligeringspirit1133]

I'm blue double de double die double de double die double de double die double de double HIHI

[@blazinlion293]

where can you read aoko story

[@dc6945]

Witch on the Holy Night. It’s on PS4/Switch store.

[@JinzoMask656]

Can she beat gilgamesh? I'd like to hear your take on her vs other big nasu characters

[@wanttogetfood]

This Aoko sounds more OP than Aoko of Tsukihime who cant scrap with average servants

[@14megasxlr]

Yo, I still don't understand what the fuck happened or what the Third Magic is actually meant to do.

[@0mnituens]

“Heavens Feel is not a spell that duplicates a soul perceived in the past. It's actually a spell to make an existence of a higher dimension that can take a spirit form and still influence the physical world. It takes a soul and elevates it to the next level of life.” - Illya of Heaven’s Feel route Firstly, the Third Magic takes a soul and elevates it to a higher dimension. This is why the Third Magic includes immortality and perpetual motion. Secondly, it makes the soul into something tangible. This is the “materialization of the soul”. The physical bodies of flesh and blood are abandoned in favor of a container for the soul. Material states “Justeaze’s use of the third magic was like careful knitting.” Servants like the Heroic Spirits are something close to a natural example of the results of the Third Magic. However, remember that reaching the “next level of life” is the primary ability of the Third Magic, not being a Spirit in itself. As in Justeaze’s case it is the ability to knit rather than the knitted product.

[@Brandazzo22]

@@0mnituens Question: Old Man Acht told Kiritsugu to activate Heaven's Feel after killing all the servants. Does this mean Heaven's Feel will be enacted on everyone alive? I know greater grail could do that in apocrypha but it had a lot more mana to work with.

[@0mnituens]

@@Brandazzo22 The Greater Grail of Fuyuki should be capable of applying the Third Magic to everyone. Zolgen (Zouken) and the Einzbern are very heavily implied to have initially planned to apply the Third Magic to everyone. According to Marisbury, it seems that the sacrifice of 7 Servants to reach the Root is what allows the Third Magic to take form and cause humanity’s salvation. The Mana of the Age of Man doesn’t really matter beyond Servant summoning and supplying. It’s not pure enough as magical energy to truly power a Holy Grail. This is why the Heroic Spirits are summoned. They have the pure magical energy that’s needed for omnipotent wish-granting and opening a path to the Root. I don’t know if there’s a difference between having sacrificed 7 Servants and 14 Servants.

[@Brandazzo22]

@0mnituens Thank you for clearly that up. Now zip forward to Zero, Mr.Tohsaka tells both Kotomines his plan is to reach the root. This is weird because he says the Einzberns and Matous have forgotten their original plan and half "less altruistic purposes". Going of the dialog, it seems like the Tohsakas rather use the greater grail to reach the root, the ultimate magi goal, rather than activate heavensfeel.

[@0mnituens]

@@Brandazzo22 I don’t think it was ever clarified what Tokiomi’s plan was for the path to the Root. I doubt he planned to form the Third Magic and enact humanity’s salvation. The Church sided with Tokiomi because he would use the Root responsibly to not affect the World. And I don’t think Tokiomi lied to Risei and Kirei. So, Tokiomi could have wanted to… #1 Touch the Root and disappear. #2 Form the Third Magic using the Greater Grail but not spread it for humanity’s salvation. This would make Tokiomi the new Third Magician. #3 Leave the path to the Root established but unopened in Fuyuki. This seems to enrich the land. Then wait for a powerful successor that can either establish a new Magic or try to tackle the Root itself.

[@markjohnhumilde9758]

Yoooooo

[@kamikaze750]

So how strong is she basically?

[@asdqwe4123]

Yes.

[@ChaolaoFueChi]

Welp, her FGO (living Servent) stats are in. The event collaboration gives more info about Aoko's powers and skills to abilities and etc.

[@irete267]

Where can one read this?

[@sillysalad0]

You can get it on the switch or ps4, its fully translated aswell