The FINAL Verdict On The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition...

As far as I'm concerned, The Outer Worlds is one of the best RPGs we've had in recent years. With the announcement of Spacer's Choice Edition, it seemed like an easy win and relatively inconsequential given the lack of significant additions to the newest update. Unfortunately, it's completely broken.
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[@65firered]

Well, the title is incredibly accurate. This is truly Spacer's Choice. They couldn't have picked a better name for it.

[@mz-hv2vh]

It's not the best chooooooiiice

[@danielwilliams3161]

That's what I'm saying that what if the game developers didn't on purpose like to like basically it says it on the name it'says it on the name it's a spacer's transition so you know what you're getting and in I think eventually down-the-line they're gonna patch it right so I feel like it was one of those 1 of those publicity stunts right and it's obviously is like a little Easter egg for ceaster egg 4 consumers actually realise hole in the 2nd this actually does fall at a spacious trade edition of the game So yeah

[@johan23501]

​@@mz-hv2vh It's Spacers Choice

[@aaronjohnson1005]

@@danielwilliams3161 wtf did u even just try to say!?

[@ben-manvibing162]

You tried the best. Now try the rest. Or whatever the slogan is 😂

[@Gogo32monkey]

It's actually in keeping with the lore of Outer Worlds. In universe, Spacer's Choice is the cheap brand who's motto is literally '"It's not the best choice, it's Spacer's Choice". So this edition of the game being wonky matches the lore of the game 😆

[@PurpleJamOfficial]

The weirdest thing about this is no one was expecting it so they could have easily delayed it until it was ready there is literally no excuse for it releasing it in this state

[@CrazyxEnigma]

Yes it could've but they want to scam people for a quick buck.

[@aarons696]

but money

[@TheKennyboy92]

Yeah so weird, there is so much great new games out at the moment.

[@well_thats_fantastic]

​@@aarons696they would've made money anyway dude, would've made more money if they made it right

[@TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth]

Yeah, they literally announced it a week before. Really weird.

[@RenitiveYT]

I've said it before and I'll say it a million times more... the background music choices are top tier and a small yet underrated part of these videos. Props to both Matt and the editor for the always pleasant background jams 👑❤️

[@VampireNoblesse]

Fallout 3 / New Vegas Soundtrack (epical.., the TV series needs those tracks too)

[@RiskyFriskyHandle]

Agreed! 🎵

[@LISSoundtrack]

What music is it? it sounds very familiar.

[@hiddenxroxas]

@@LISSoundtrack kingdom hearts 2 Lazy afternoons

[@MrMattyPlays]

This was my buddy Kopi who edited this one. He has top tier music taste 🔥

[@LadyMoonboy]

I heard that Obsidian had nothing to do with this new 'enhanced' version of The Outer Words but Take Two and Private Division were the ones responsible. It was a cash grab all along. Truly lives up to Spacer's Choice standards. PS: You can get everything that this upgrade has by downloading a FREE mod that increases the level cap and enhances the visuals, without the drawbacks of abysmal framerate and shader compilation stutters.

[@aaronvasseur6559]

It’s $10 It’s not a cash grab

[@jeveritt8398]

​​@@aaronvasseur6559 $10 for a worse version of a game you already own. Idk how it's not a cash grab just because it isn't $60 doesn't mean its not a poor quality release

[@LadyMoonboy]

@@aaronvasseur6559 Yeah the upgrade is €10 but the full version now costs €60 and it's going to be a while before it gets discounted. The executives at Take Two just wanted to milk the franchise one last time before the rights go to Microsoft. The Witcher 3 also had a next-gen upgrade but in that case it was free. As I said in the original comment everything this upgrade adds you can get by downloading a free mod that doesn't turn the game into a PowerPoint presentation.

[@moister3727]

They should build the cache before starting the game

[@LadyMoonboy]

@@moister3727 Yeah but most game devs don't bother. And most of these games are built on Unreal so maybe something with the engine. I hope the Witcher 4 doesn't have any of these stutters since CDPR switched to Unreal 5.

[@Omegaslashbuster1]

“This enemy refuses to attack me” This enemy must think that I “mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still that I’ve become invisible to the eye”.

[@AstroNerdBoy]

The level cap was probably my main complaint in the game. Once I hit cap and there was no reward for exploring and such, I just rapidly pushed to the end of the game.

[@garrusvakarian6322]

I played Outer Worlds when it released. Didn’t love it. Didn’t hate it. Never had the the desire to revisit it.

[@emarskineel]

Yep a totally soulless experience that huffs its own farts from start to finish

[@georgejones5019]

I enjoyed the role playing aspect of it. But combat and crafting definitely left a bit to be desired.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

A headscratcher given Obsidian's past games.

[@miles6120]

@@georgejones5019 Yeah they dumped all their points in dialogue and neglected combat completely it seems

[@chainsaw8507]

It's an alright game. I actually like fallout 4 more than it though, so.....

[@DanielPvb4]

Im over here waiting on Starfield and just bought this editon with all the DLCs and I am LOVING IT, playing on Ultra settings with no issues!

[@Artur_K_Jr.]

I can't help, but feel like they use customers as play testers. Which seems to be more common place nowadays. Your videos are awesome and always have non-biased, honest opinion of games / situations. Love your content.

[@Hijynx87]

I woke up from a post supper coma, to the sweet sounds of what ....is that Kenny G you are playing in the background? Lol

[@Gamer1990100]

Odd thing is I never experienced any crashes with my current playthrough only time I had a bug was frames dropping when visiting the chairman's office (I forgot the building name it's towards the end game on Bizentyme)

[@jumbusdumbus59]

The background music in your videos always give me comfort and nostalgia.

[@MarcheGan]

its a fallout track im pretty sure i just dont know which one, if you do please let me know.

[@ekrenz5268]

I love the use of music, thank you Matty.

[@mix1ro]

I totally forgot this game existed.

[@jamesschmidt7761]

I play with a ryzen 7700x and 3080 ti with 32gb memory and my system was running at about 30-40fps while playing The Outer Worlds Spacers Choice Edition and I have it at 4k and the other settings are mostly at high to ultra settings except shadows but what I found is that if you to to Settings-> Graphics there is an option called 3D resolution. I turned it down to 80% and now my game runs at 60fps or sometimes higher. Hopefully this helps :)

[@VinylMorpheus]

Outer Worlds: “LOL Corporations am I right?” - Corporation

[@imbogart]

And now it's free to own for just 24 hours on epic games. ;)

[@kfitz387]

This would actually be one of the funniest trolls any company has ever done

[@TotalAnomy]

If anyone is watching this in the present, it runs fine now. I run it on a gaming laptop with a 1660ti with everything on ultra (but FSR set to performance), and I get no chugs

[@golembiaski]

Thanks for the review and warining!

[@alan71102]

Glad that you put Gameplay bro.

[@liljinjar1268]

That KH background music hit me so hard with nostalgia

[@jrkern]

Love that you’re playing Twilight Town music in the background

[@st.paddymad7085]

The Outer Worlds was pretty decent back then and it’s still good to this day, but to be locked out from upgrading to the Spacer’s Choice Edition is a rotten way to promote the game, if ya ask me. EDIT: Thought I’d just update the comment here. Ok, so my experience is that I have pre-ordered the physical version I got for my PS4 back round October 2019 when it 1st came out and I also bought the expansion pass digitally on the store back round 2019-2020 as well shortly after I finished the game, so I got both expansions for free. Hoping I’d be at least be able to upgrade to the Spacer’s Choice Edition on my PS5 by popping in the physical disc and acquiring the said upgrade either for free or even simply paying the €10 discount, instead I am told I am locked out for “already owning the DLC” when I checked out the store page and as far as I can remember, the only DLC I see and downloaded is the literal 2 expansions. And luckily, I’m not the only one with this issue, for I see a few other lads have a similar issue. Along with the increased skill cap, I was also hoping the rag-doll physics and gibbing system was highly improved as well. UPDATE: I checked the PS5 store again and now it looks like I can now buy the upgrade for the reduced price, so here we go.

[@mrgrumboldt]

Locked out how?

[@pazuzu603]

I'm assuming you are playing it free on gamepass..that is a you problem.

[@kennypowers1945]

@@pazuzu603 no, even if you bought the game you have to buy it again

[@st.paddymad7085]

@@mrgrumboldt my experience is that I have the physical disc I got for my PS4 back round 2019 and I also bought the expansion pass digitally on the store back round 2019-2020 as well, so I got both expansions for free. Hoping I’d be at least be able to upgrade to the Spacer’s Choice Edition on my PS5 either for free or even paying the €10 discount, instead I am told I am locked out for “already owning the DLC” and the only DLC I see is the literal 2 expansions. And luckily, I’m not the only one with this issue, for I see a few other lads have a similar issue.

[@65firered]

@@pazuzu603 Yes, because he released the game on gamepass right?

[@CatDadGamer]

I didn't buy it or dlc first time around. I bought this for series x. I haven't noticed the frame rate drops or AI malfunctions. Everything looks great and feels great. One thing that is off though, are many boxes are empty when going to loot them... Some bodies are empty as well. I can wander off a bit, and when I come back, the loot would have generated. Hopefully this is fixed in the patch. That said, I'm having a blast playing again and look forward to the patch.

[@kyledodson2992]

I think that’s not a glitch but a design that issue. Then again I haven’t played in ages

[@TheBrumbas49]

Hi Matty. I played outer worlds the vanilla and though it was to easy, but What i can hear from you, the dlc makes it a better game. If i should give it a shot more and buy the dlc, What build would you recoment? Persanly i always liked the science weapons.

[@deprest5555]

love the lazy afternoon in the background

[@DangerVille]

I really don’t think this version is that bad… the framerate goes down a little on my Series X, but the visuals do look nicer, there’s a bit more depth to it. Worth the fiver that it cost to buy.

[@thegametinkerer]

So apparently a year later its patched and running great. I picked this up on Epic for free and it runs amazingly on my ryzen 5 pc with a 1070 mini graphics card. The game looks amazing and runs great. Yes I have some graphical issues (screen tearing etc) but my pc runs it great. I havent run into anything that is a big deal for me.

[@maxbrown9918]

I’m gonna be brutally honest. I liked all the visual changes. The new faces and sky boxes is a night and day difference for me. I thought that most of the characters looked plain and boring. Also it runs fine on my series x I haven’t had much issues.

[@LocutusOfWarborgOneOfOne]

Bad frames here on series x

[@codycarabotta5621]

Came here off the browse just to say your Premier Ball earing is dope af. Im more of a Luxury Ball guy myself but Premier is my solid number 2.

[@jasperwilliams5729]

steam reviews say that after the 1.4 update the stuttering issues have been corrected and it is actually a playable game now. im looking forward to getting it from humble bundle at the end of the month (july 2023)

[@malachor5ve]

What song is that in the backround of the video? Love it

[@SRTyler392]

What is the music in this video from its late and I can’t remember 😢

[@Kwiwiwiwi]

Maybe this was obsidian's way to inadvertently remind us that avowed and the outer worlds 2 exist

[@alexlyster3459]

They didn't do the update. Private Division contracted that one out.

[@tylergolden9469]

That Twilight Town theme is so relaxing. I could listen to it on repeat for hours

[@IngeniousReaper]

Amen

[@ChrisFeist76]

Guys this is a 4 month old review. If you go to the steam reviews now most recent "Mostly positive" and reviews are saying it looks like the game was patched up to fix the issues.

[@HUYI1]

hmm, glad to hear it

[@flyingpaladin617]

Playing this on the PS5 and having no issues

[@ZeroRulz0]

Supernova is only hard early on, once you level up it starts to become easy again because a lot of the good perks are very early on, if you have companions just focus on grabbing perks that make them better and if your going a solo run, just grab the perks that make you a god when you have no companions, that's what I did lol

[@KyleS.1987]

Just to make a small correction, only the Series X and PS5 got the 60fps patch. Series S has been stuck at 30fps this whole time.

[@grantthomas9364]

I came here to say same thing😂

[@user-gf1sm2wz3r]

What game is the background music from again? Oblivion?

[@IMAJ3W4LIF3]

The kingdom hearts background music brought back so many good memories

[@sjmad1996]

love the twilight town theme in the background

[@SylkieDev]

So sad hearing this.... Does anyone know if things got better with patches? I just got spacers choice in my humble choice subscription and I've been wanting to play Outer Worlds for awhile....

[@abc4781]

I remember playing this all the way through when it came out, I need to play the DLC too.

[@joeslickback]

Well I guess the money that would have gone to this "upgrade" can go to Sea Salt Ice Cream instead

[@joseshapherd5537]

Me personally I play on Xbox Series S and I compared the original with the spacers choice edition and it was definitely an upgrade in my opinion, I did have a few small problems but over all it was great for me but that’s just my opinion.

[@thingsiplay]

It's probably Shader caching. Which is independent of the power of you machine, even the best graphics cards can't stop stuttering. Usually once the cache is build, in example after you see some object for the first time and the shader cache kicks in, then after it it is cached. Meaning it won't stutter for this particular item anymore. If Shader cache is the problem here, then playing same section another time won't stutter.

[@forcinghandlesisdumb]

I had the same thought, but presumably he played awhile and it didn't go away. I'm curious what the problem is, and if there's an easy fix.

[@franciscom3759]

What is that fantastic piece of music playing in the background at 4:36 -ish

[@oblivionlord1242]

I love that you still play fo3 ambient sounds, it's so soothing...

[@MarcheGan]

do you know the title of the track, i cant remeber

[@srswriter1165]

Does anyone know what the background music is in the first 3 minutes before it goes into the Kingdom Hearts music? It sounds really familiar.

[@YazzPott]

Its Fallout dawg

[@Ferdinand208]

1:00 Those look like before and after a remaster images. But which one is the improved? They go from crisp to dark and blurry?

[@dom1310df]

Private Division also published Kerbal Space Program 2, made by a different, in-house developer from the original, with apparently terrible bugs and performance.

[@Chadsexington985]

Thanks for jumping on the grenade on this one. I was in a wait and see mode about upgrading for this very reason. I also fall the camp of people who loved Fallout New Vegas but only liked this game. I played it and all the dlc but don't see a reason to go back.

[@BlazingTiger91]

I see what you did there. Balancing the negative review with the uber nostalgic kingdom hearts tune in the background to get our brains all confused as to what we are supposed to be feeling. Surprised I didn't have a stroke.

[@mishsdd]

Another issue I have is that my save from the original does not transfer over....

[@NephiLoWaterGodXVII]

I love how you have been using songs from KH in the background on your videos, man.

[@Dubs22005]

what is that background music in this video? sounds like legend of mana or something

[@polishprince47]

Salutations Mr Matty!! 🤟

[@KingzEduh]

Doubt, if I buy the space choice edition, does the game come with the dlcs? Or do I have to buy the game separately too?

[@angelmessenger8240]

I love the game too. So bright and colourful. Great story.

[@JazzzRockFuzion]

Haven’t played Spacer’s Choice Ed. so can’t speak to performance - but where I disagree with Matty fundamentally is the level cap. If you play through this as a completionist, it’s quite easy to max your level partway through the first DLC without finishing the main story…which means that finishing the second DLC and main story becomes a matter of devotion, not progression - which for an RPG isn’t cool. Frankly the low level cap was my least favorite part of the game. If they clean up the performance and wonky AI stuff with some patches, I’ll definitely pick this up! 🤘

[@ViewtifulJae]

Should the final verdict come before any patches or final “ updates “

[@Morgan_Blackhand]

My older rig can't run it anyway, but maybe it's time I give the DLC in the base version a shot

[@dnizy]

I've played through the main game and most of Gorgon on my series X. I can't say performance has been perfect, but the frame rate has been pretty consistent with occasional stutters. It definitely looks better than the original game on xbox. I did find the AI enemies standing still a few times though. So seems like it might be a bigger issue on PC.

[@MarcheGan]

Which fallout track is he using as the back ground, can someone please chare the title.

[@alzearafat]

Does anyone knows the BGM?

[@mcm426]

Does anyone know what song Matty has playing in the background around the 4 minute mark? It sounds so familiar and it's driving me crazy that I can't think of it.

[@YazzPott]

Im pretty sure ots from Kingdom Hearts

[@mcm426]

​@YazzPott Oh yeah you're right! Thanks

[@emmieXbear]

WHAT tune is that in the background?! Is it like final fantasy or something? I know I’ve heard it before!

[@octoberskyrim6270]

i got the base game for 9$ recently and i love it so far i would like to get the complete edition in time

[@fragkia3]

Nice Twilight Town theme in the background there 😉

[@brendanblanchard494]

By the way, you can get the $10 upgrade with Game Pass as long as you’ve bought the DLC season pass you don’t have to buy the base game

[@danielmacfarlane63]

Isnt the background music the ambient sounds from fallout?

[@bloedekuh]

I wish I had watched this video sooner. I spent a few hours updating all my drivers, even the BIOS and whatnot. And I still get stutters.

[@jcdrumma1]

Ty so much for the Twilight Town music!

[@Rynspark]

Today is a sad day for outer worlds :(

[@megamanx1291]

These years have been sad for pc gamers

[@Rynspark]

@@megamanx1291 i completely agree

[@jermainegrays]

The Kingdom Hearts Music *chef's kiss*

[@itswoahfoxy]

This is sad cause I played the switch version when that came out, and it was so muddy but I still pushed through the main game and enjoyed the experience and the story. So naturally after getting a Series S, and hearing about this upgrade I was ready to dive in with the “best version” of the game and finally play the DLC. Sadly, I get to wait longer for patches on this version before I drop any money on a broken product. Unless I hear otherwise about the Series S/X version I suppose

[@hotdognl70]

Just play the old version on Series x/s. The only upgrade you need is a hardware upgrade.

[@TheLateral18]

im playing this 6 months later , i got the spacers choice edition , it runs awful . it crashes the amd drivers . i don't get it

[@Snicketbar]

Never gonna change to finish this game. My save file got corrupted and then the disc disappeared somewhere. I was going to buy it on Steam when it was on sale, but I missed it by a day.

[@SeaTactics]

Unfortunate, I've been slowly chipping away at this game and thought the upgraded AI would be a fun challenge to get me back in and worth waiting for. Guess this version isn't worth picking up.

[@ethancarter]

«‎It's not the best edition, it's Spacer's Choice Edition»‎

[@awkwardGardener]

The character model change reminds me of the Fallout Character Overhaul mod for New Vegas. Sure it's more detailed, but it really doesn't look any better.

[@draculathevampire934]

This dude is extremely to positive to his favorite company in the world

[@Wightaroundyo]

What music is this

[@flsylar]

I bought it about a week ago. Been working great after the most recent updates! I've been enjoying it alot. Didn't notice any AI issues since most game have their goofy AI moments lol. Also the environments look a good bit better IMO. The faces come down to preference I think. I looked at comparisons and didn't really think either looked better. Anyone considering spacers choice id recomend giving it a try, also FSR 2.O doesn't look bad and really helps performance (I keep it off on my 3080 tho). Hope some new people can enjoy the game, new or old!

[@seanm.7584]

Thank you bro.

[@Zrorro]

I tested it out on PS5 and yeah on the performance mode that caps at 60fps, it stutters a lot and does a lot of frame drops. Like the only way that game is playable on console is in the cinematic mode where it's capped at 30. Cuz trying to play it on performance mode is a nightmare with how janky it is.

[@AsperGaming_]

I have ps4 version but I have a ps5 now. Is it even worth getting this one?

[@Joshtapus]

What I’m wondering too

[@chris-ee1ur]

Oh man I was just about to buy it on my bday

[@johnm.2785]

That obsidian seal of quality. Only putting out better under Xbox.

[@MegaHellenkeller]

It’s the Spacer’s Choice!

[@riekopo7638]

Spacers Choice has gotten 4 or so patches. Is it fixed? The visual changes are still there though.

[@Avrysatos]

The color and visual changes are ...interesting? i've been playing it on stream these past few weeks. The stutters are pretty much gone now.

[@Philaroni]

This just adds to the list as of late of broken games, even more so if you are on a PC. I'm loosing track of how many titles are getting or needing massive updates or fixes after release. I'm half wondering if maybe its driver related, since it seems its using new shader's in some places. Again this seems like another situation of.... did they even play or test this right? I wonder if Digital Foundry will do a video on this to see if they can narrow down the issue.

[@techknow9237]

Soacer Choice Edition: Got a 42(+) GB update last night - wonder what has been fixed or/and updated ?

[@cosmicthought3419]

And your genius brain decided to go under a youtube comment section to seek answers, instead of testing?

[@Helord1]

I don't know why there's Kingdom Hearts 2 music playing the background, but it certainly made me keep watching the video

[@gracearabella4962]

That's really sad I loved the outer worlds and have explored everybit of it. Hopefully the sequel will have better framerate

[@TheChroniclesofLouie]

I liked this game, in its time...and a HELL of a soundtrack. They're working on "The Outer Worlds 2". The trailer is here on YT. Thanks for your videos, Mr. Matty!

[@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs]

Y'know what would make it an instant _Buy now?_ MODS. Fallout 4 and Skyrim have mods on Xbox, Games like Conan Exiles, Valheim, Bannerlord 2, Outer Worlds, ALL would be made better, and there're already pre-existing modding communities on PC. Like I still keep going back to Skyrim and Fallout even now!