The Flying Hun - The Turkish Majra

[@kludgescraftsplus8631]

I love simple ancient gadgets. Lost knowledge that needs to be remembered.

[@_Mordion_]

Hey man, I found you on that episode of the Modern Rogue that you did several years ago and that got me to drop compound archery hunting and switch to asiatic traditional bows. Information in the United States as I'm sure you know is so limited. There is a huge void of information here with almost no one in America doing informational videos on this topic and it seems like it would be a great opportunity for you to not only promote your business but also cause the sport of mounted archery (and interest in asiatic archery) in the US to explode. Are you planning on getting back into youtube anytime soon? Would love to see more videos from you but if not, I'd appreciate if you could share folks you know of that are doing so. Armin Hirmer is the only other one I know of that is very active.

[@canozhazinedar]

Hello from Turkey, actually we called it "Navek" in Turkish traditional archery, not "Navak". However, Navek isn't a Turkish name, it actually comes from Persian language and was used in Ottoman Empire. Navek means "arrow" in Persian language. But we're using this term for just Majra. In Turkish, arrow is called "Ok" :))

[@brucenovotny5924]

Interesting piece of information... Thanks Can 🙏 👍🙂🇨🇦

[@nahname3961]

Allah sene kutluluk burcu olmasin °|peace from Urmia

[@Talos827]

I just saw you explaining arrowheads...then I googled for turkic archery and puff...you are on my screen again.

[@LongMax]

What I heard about this thing is more of a sports device that was used in competitions for the maximum range of a bow shot by sultans and other rich people in the Ottoman Empire. The arrows had to be short and spindle-shaped for the best aerodynamics, with an ivory aerodynamic tip. And it was simply impossible to launch such an arrow in another way.

[@brucenovotny5924]

Absolutely fantastic !!! You gained yourself a new subscriber 😉 👍🙂🇨🇦

[@patrickbush9526]

That's cool it's like an over draw.

[@kapoof2]

More videos Hun!

[@crossbowboltlaunchers2456]

That IS some interesting stuff! I do not know yet how to use the idea in my projects

[@jimmyrome908]

The only thing funnier than this thing existing is that it works.

[@MatthiasLeath]

Could you elaborate on history and practicality of the kidney belt you're wearing? Loved the video.

[@muhamadridayatullah6272]

Very beautiful bow...

[@wo.959ironwolfcosplay7]

Holy cow that's ingenious 🤯.

[@tengriguidesmysteps960]

Amazing! Is'nt it too light for the bow I mean bow needs a correct weight to shoot bc the wood can broke after some too light arrows

[@Balaclavaballistics]

Where can I get threads like that Rob?

[@elcano56]

Where I can find a pair of traditional gutal boots?

[@herikusuman6599]

Is the bow used safe from dry-fire effects because the arrows are too light? Or do we have to use quite heavy arrows?

[@joewoodruff7128]

I'm trying to get into horse bow archery. How much is it for the whole setup? Including a custom bow?

[@gn2650]

Ingenious

[@cengizsogutlu]

i lvoe this guy from turkey

[@jharchery4117]

Very interesting, but isn't it pretty much like dry firing your bow?

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

JH Archery - not as bad, still using 125grn tips and maybe another 100-125 of shaft. Also the channel and string riding over the majra itself provides some friction. I don’t shoot it with my good bows often, so the damage (if any) is minimized. I generally tell folks to use a less expensive bow if the feel uncomfortable with the unknowns.

[@jharchery4117]

@@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347 Ah, that makes sense. I have been shooting Med style for many years and am now getting into thumb release and these style bows. I love it. They seem so much more efficient than what I am used to shooting. Thanks for the information. I have been fascinated by the concept of shooting these short arrows, and how they affect the bow. Your explanation cleared up a lot for me. I am now subscribed to your site and hope to learn a lot more. Any insight into thumb release techniques would be appreciated. I feel comfortable with a Manchu ring, but would like to learn how to use the other types without feeling like all the skin on my thumb is being stripped off...:)

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

JH Archery - the best ring, in my opinion is a proper fitting Turkish style ring, that’s what I use most often. Getting one that’s custom made, rather than one of the “good enough” or a one size fits many from a website is the best way to go. I’ve been shooting thumb about 5 years now after having been a Mediterranean shooter for the better part of 25 years. You are correct - it is incredibly versatile, and it feels more like a “combat” draw due to all the things you can do with it.

[@lusolad]

Do you make these for sale?

[@xjade11.11]

I often wondered two things. Can the small arrow easily derail and go through you hand? Can they be used on the left side of the bow? I have only seen them used on the right.

[@sparkrain3580]

I had one arrow slide out and hit in the chicken wing looking part of my left thumb. But in good foresight I only used a very low poundage bow.

[@Balaclavaballistics]

Im going to attempt to make one out of PVC. How long is yours? 36"?

[@Balaclavaballistics]

Is the bottom flat?

[@skatetrooper5285]

So when did the Turks start using these? And when was it invented and developed? It seems I have a hard time finding the year for this thanks

[@HatredForMankind]

Turkic people had been using such devices since the time they neighbored the Chinese and collected crossbow darts which chinese shot at them when they ran out of arrows.

[@Slopigami]

How does the use of the Majra compare to crossbows in regards to rate of shots within a minute?

[@sacrebleu7422]

this can`t be a seriously meant question, can it

[@matthewmaxcy1574]

Someone with a 29 inch draw what length would you recommend would 33 be to much ? Or would 30 be a good lenght..thank you.

[@kristianperin6407]

I think 33 it's ok for 29,my bow has 32 inch draw and my majra has 34,5 inches

[@huechang7101]

I like to say anywhere between 2-3 inches more than draw length is good.

[@malikutara]

Please make more videos

[@lusolad]

What culture is your clothing from?

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

lusolad - it’s a mix really. A number of steppes culture with some Turkic influences.

[@LECityLECLEC]

WOOHOO! That's a crazy tool, was this mainly a ground or mounted archer weapon? Did the Ottomans use it?

[@mickypamei6629]

What about gpp...wont that break your bow, thats a really light arrow.

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

@@mickypamei6629 - Turkish bows tend to be better suited to lighter gpp ratios than a lot of other types of bows - usually the rule is the smaller the siyahs, the lighter the arrows can be. Larger the siyahs the heavier the arrows. All depends on the construction of the bow too, some materials and laminations handle it better.

[@Bobthewarbow184]

I have custom made myself a square one, rests on your tumb knuckle and won't tilt during the draw and release. Won't shoot yourself in your hand this way I figure.

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

bob de warbow - my first couple were flat backed, I like them a lot - but wanted to make one that was like the originals, which were rounded. I tell pretty much anyone making one that flat backed is WAY safer.

[@nahname3961]

tengri-yin yölunda gardash

[@TheDave570]

Custom Thumb Rings also sell them !!!! $123.00 plus $10.00 shipping! Made of popular wood.

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

TheDave570 - you’re overpriced. I make true horn rings for $75, shipped. Available on www.theflyinghun.com

[@TheDave570]

@@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347 I was talking about the Tong-Ah not a thumb ring. The only other seller is Freddie Archery in Korea.

[@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347]

TheDave570 - I misunderstand, sorry about that. Sounded like you were trying to sell rings made of wood. I see what you meant now. I also make them from time to time, but I don’t like selling them because they’re super dangerous to folks that aren’t aware of how to use them properly.

[@TheDave570]

@@theflyinghunarcheryandleat3347 No problem. Great Video. keep up the good work !!

[@Balaclavaballistics]

I made one Rob!

[@MrArthoz]

Wonderful concept. I was thinking of shooting at monkeys prowling near my farm but arrows are just too expensive to be lost in the grasses or stuck in trees. I could try making short darts from bamboo to fire and forget. Question: does the friction do a lot of wear on the strings?

[@kristiangustafson4130]

The Greek/Byzantine term is "solenarion"... apparently standard issue to archers in the 10th & 11th Cs.

[@skatetrooper5285]

So these things have been around for a while?

[@kristiangustafson4130]

@@skatetrooper5285yeah mate, from just a little less far back as we know about archery to begin with.

[@anonymousdev1l]

use bamboo

[@mayhems_muse]

Danger Sticks!

[@TheDave570]

Mayhems Muse......Only in the wrong hands, much like a gun !!!

[@ieum981]

Isn't it a Korean bow?

[@decay5588]

Rurka Miedziana Tong-ah is Korean traditional technique.

[@dongf2618]

​@@decay5588 it was not uniquely Korean. The Byzantines used it, the Turks used it, and the Chinese used it as well.

[@erhansahin1741]

@@dongf2618 the bow is Turkish style. How can i say that so clearly: The grip is bulges outwards, there are stiff ridges on the limbs just below the baş/siyahs and come on look at the floral paintings on it. So turkish lol it's a grozer turkish base bow.

[@GuNdAmWiThYoU]

In fact, the Turkish and Goguryeo armies were mounted on horseback and fought. Goguryeo was naturally influenced by the people of the North, and it was not an exaggeration to say that it was an empire. As far as I know, Korea is a brother-like country that has a very close connection and relationship with Turkey. The Turkish army, compiled in Korean history, may be labeled as the "Dolgong" people in their own words.

[@magnusthered4973]

Wasn’t this a Byzantine invention

[@RandomUser_online]

same tool sa the koreans but different drawing method

[@timtaler2826]

👻

[@decay5588]

This technology comes from Korea. This name is Tong-ah(애깃살).

[@SekadarPendapat]

Nope, no one know. Majra/Navak/Tong-ah very ancient

[@dongf2618]

it was not uniquely Korean. The Byzantines used it, the Turks used it, and the Chinese used it as well.

[@Bestnightcoreofalltime]

It’s a solenarion from the Byzantine empire.