The four horsemen of x: x, χ , ɔc, æ

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bprp math basics

bprp math basics

Күн бұрын

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@tessenary_
@tessenary_ 29 күн бұрын
the four horsemen of x: x, χ , ɔc, æ
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics 29 күн бұрын
😂
@thenumnums
@thenumnums 29 күн бұрын
I write it like 𝑥
@phiettermarcelinosali7316
@phiettermarcelinosali7316 29 күн бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@YunxiaoChu
@YunxiaoChu 29 күн бұрын
How?
@YunxiaoChu
@YunxiaoChu 29 күн бұрын
@@thenumnumshow did you do that?
@jacknguyen.2409
@jacknguyen.2409 29 күн бұрын
Now I’m curious to see how you write the letter f in f(x)
@cesarluis6335
@cesarluis6335 28 күн бұрын
I write like the integral symbol but in the final part i do not curve and put the line on the half hahahaha 😂
@jacknguyen.2409
@jacknguyen.2409 28 күн бұрын
Mine is written like a weird cursive version of an E with a line in the middle. Similar to how you would write the number 7 but with a small curl at the top 😅
@jacknguyen.2409
@jacknguyen.2409 28 күн бұрын
I can only do math when I write it like that and that only
@cesarluis6335
@cesarluis6335 27 күн бұрын
@@jacknguyen.2409 hahaha pretty different 😆😁 there are so many types of f's. My f on handwriting is with curves so it's f with a curve above the line and other under the line hahahaha 😂 but in the f(x) thee shape it's like the integral symbol, I like this one, it's so beautiful
@ElevatorExplorer
@ElevatorExplorer 18 күн бұрын
I write it like d-
@simonmeadows7961
@simonmeadows7961 Ай бұрын
I always use C) The pairing that can cause confusion is u and v if the person has unclear handwriting. My fluid dynamics lecturer frequently used functions u and v but we had to ask about 6 or 7 times each lecture whether what he had just written was u or v. The standard symbol for a Lagrangian is relatively simple for us British folk, as it's just the pound symbol without the bar across the middle.
@Wildcard71
@Wildcard71 29 күн бұрын
In handwriting, you can also mix up n and u - and even и.
@stevenglowacki8576
@stevenglowacki8576 29 күн бұрын
I had problems with u and v myself until I trained myself to always write tails on u's, the same as you'll write a tail on an 'a' to distinguish it from an 'o' if you're not adding the second story of the 'a'.
@tentothepowerof10
@tentothepowerof10 28 күн бұрын
Latin: i see this as a win
@Meimi555
@Meimi555 27 күн бұрын
My u's and v's look the same 😢😢😢
@leze2049
@leze2049 19 күн бұрын
That moment when my u and v aren't similar but v and r are
@amogus5454
@amogus5454 Ай бұрын
I write it like "x"
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics Ай бұрын
Have you given “χ” a try?
@erenoguz3297
@erenoguz3297 29 күн бұрын
that’s not “x” that’s “χ”
@Daniel-fi4ls
@Daniel-fi4ls 29 күн бұрын
× is best
@discord.gg_zVev2DUMqv
@discord.gg_zVev2DUMqv 28 күн бұрын
​@@Daniel-fi4ls thats the × used for multiplication
@Chomta
@Chomta 27 күн бұрын
Stopid ​@@Daniel-fi4ls
@VengerVideoGamer
@VengerVideoGamer 29 күн бұрын
We use c over here in the UK.
@Aurora_Animates
@Aurora_Animates 20 күн бұрын
Yesss
@j-j-jingles4797
@j-j-jingles4797 19 күн бұрын
I'm UK, but I write it like the first half of a cosine wave, with a line through it. I guess I'm just fancy
@st0rminecraft62
@st0rminecraft62 18 күн бұрын
@@j-j-jingles4797You just haven’t been infected by “Englanditis” yet.
@Momie_et_Masque
@Momie_et_Masque 17 күн бұрын
same in France, option A is for uppercase X
@Wildflwers
@Wildflwers 14 күн бұрын
Yep but I’m too lazy to lift my pen so I write it like D lmao
@ShapelessMonstrosity
@ShapelessMonstrosity 28 күн бұрын
As an Australian, C is just how I was taught to write lowercase x anyway. So continuing to write it that way in mathematics is the obvious choice.
@sssnowman5794
@sssnowman5794 11 күн бұрын
I specifically remember being taught to do it as C in maths, and A otherwise.
@ratamacue0320
@ratamacue0320 10 күн бұрын
Your x moves at the speed of light
@Yamcha1717
@Yamcha1717 29 күн бұрын
I'm french and I use C) and D) for lowercase x, usually when it's a variable (like in x²+x+1=0), and A) is for uppercase X, which is used in probability (like in P(X=x)={p ; 1-p ; 0}). It's also how I write the letter x, since I learnt to write in cursive (but now write with a mix of cursive and noncursive letters)
@gotenks81
@gotenks81 Ай бұрын
D all the time. A is too lazy 😆
@italianball6653
@italianball6653 14 күн бұрын
Why would being “too lazy” be a problem? Wouldn’t that mean it’s more faster and efficient? lol
@oddpotato4038
@oddpotato4038 2 күн бұрын
I grew up learning more on cursives. So its difficult for me to write fast if I lift my pen from my paper occasionally. So... yead D is much faster than any of the choices
@yrig6834
@yrig6834 29 күн бұрын
3:47 bro writes “r” as gamma symbol 😂
@Alittlebitofeverythingoffical
@Alittlebitofeverythingoffical 28 күн бұрын
The math… It’s taking control of him We have to save him!!!!
@jayJEEt.08
@jayJEEt.08 27 күн бұрын
It's too late bro😔​@@Alittlebitofeverythingoffical
@lullul3041
@lullul3041 21 күн бұрын
He also writes capital gamma as r sometimes. What a switcharound
@juliatorre8803
@juliatorre8803 20 күн бұрын
Math Virus
@jasonenns5076
@jasonenns5076 19 күн бұрын
γ is below the line like g, while r is completely above the line.
@baconhair2934
@baconhair2934 Ай бұрын
In my Australian school were taught to write x like example C
@alanclarke4646
@alanclarke4646 29 күн бұрын
Same here in UK
@Adam.Frazier
@Adam.Frazier 29 күн бұрын
Yet another dub for America
@Pasclesrm
@Pasclesrm 29 күн бұрын
Same I thought this was the standard
@CMANIZABALLER
@CMANIZABALLER 29 күн бұрын
@@Adam.Frazier what
@flappyboi38
@flappyboi38 29 күн бұрын
Same in France
@bprpmathbasics
@bprpmathbasics Ай бұрын
Solving x^3-6x^2+12x-8=0 ttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5LIZZaHjM-GgM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5LIZZaHjM-GgM0
@nilsadelsbach8556
@nilsadelsbach8556 28 күн бұрын
(x-2)^3=0 /3rd. Root x-2=0 x=2 I don't know how to right root in english, but correct me if my solution is wrong.
@themelancholyofgay3543
@themelancholyofgay3543 15 күн бұрын
0:50 5XX = 5×X = S・X
@farhantajwarahmed3340
@farhantajwarahmed3340 Ай бұрын
am I the only one who uses all the four types in a single problem 😅😂
@cringename2757
@cringename2757 Ай бұрын
why?
@bravcoder
@bravcoder Ай бұрын
what's wrong with you?
@Grozdor
@Grozdor Ай бұрын
Chaotic Evil
@mohammedkhan8084
@mohammedkhan8084 29 күн бұрын
Yes😂
@Valkies-zj2bi
@Valkies-zj2bi 29 күн бұрын
No
@benjaminschmutter
@benjaminschmutter 29 күн бұрын
A lot of people are saying that they would never write 5 times x as 5 × x, only as 5x. While this is of course more common, there are other scenarios where the × is necessary. For example, writing x × y = z, where x, y, and z are standard basis vectors in 3-space, looks very strange when using 'x', but is more clear with ɔc (my personal favorite) or χ.
@KepleroGT
@KepleroGT 29 күн бұрын
I sometimes see ^ being used for the cross product
@ma3dhr0s44
@ma3dhr0s44 29 күн бұрын
Cant you use a dot as a symbol for product of vectors?
@benjaminschmutter
@benjaminschmutter 29 күн бұрын
@@ma3dhr0s44 The dot and cross products are distinct operations with vectors in 3-space
@coolio-46
@coolio-46 29 күн бұрын
i just use * man
@gokaytaspnar1355
@gokaytaspnar1355 24 күн бұрын
X×Y=Z
@ThalesWell
@ThalesWell 26 күн бұрын
A. It feels the most cathartic. Just use the dot to mean multiplication
@ihappydawnz
@ihappydawnz 16 күн бұрын
dot product tho
@Archiv1st
@Archiv1st 28 күн бұрын
i write it like option B, but with the bottom right curved aswell so that rotating it 180 degrees would look the same
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 Ай бұрын
4:28 I actually write these letters like this not only in maths but in any language
@aqua4089
@aqua4089 17 күн бұрын
Me too, cursive handwriting. Funnily though this makes me use the normal x y z for math, as they stand out from the rest of my cursive
@DeJay7
@DeJay7 17 күн бұрын
@@aqua4089 Serious question (from a normal person): why would anyone write cursive normally?
@aqua4089
@aqua4089 17 күн бұрын
@@DeJay7 Was taught cursive exclusively for all of elementary school and I just stuck with it
@dragskcinnay3184
@dragskcinnay3184 14 күн бұрын
​@@aqua4089 yup, same here I even do cursive uppercase letters in text (but typically not in equations/for variables/physics quantities, with some exceptions) It's just what I'm used to; plus, since letters link with each other most of the time, it's... probably not much slower than typewriter-style letters?
@exceptionallyriso
@exceptionallyriso 11 күн бұрын
​@@DeJay7it's faster
@Dethneko
@Dethneko 29 күн бұрын
I cross my Z's (and 7's), but I use a horizontal line, not a diagonal line like you did. In my introduction to algebra way back when, because of the variable X we stopped using x for multiplication and started using a dot, an asterisk (sort of, I think the computer asterisk has 5 lines, but we basically drew an x and then a third horizontal line through it), and multiplication via juxtaposition.
@thebaker8637
@thebaker8637 17 күн бұрын
i cross my z’s in algebra (in Polish a z written like this is an alternate way to write ż) but i use a tally sign | for one and an uncrossed 7.
@Dethneko
@Dethneko 17 күн бұрын
@@thebaker8637 -- In writing most people's 1's are indistinguishable from capital I's, so usually not necessary to cross 7's; I just thought it looked cool.
@ProfessorDBehrman
@ProfessorDBehrman 29 күн бұрын
I taught math for 22 years at community college. I almost always used option B to write the variable "x", and there was NEVER any confusion. BTW, I also crossed my lower-case "Q" rather than write a script "Q".
@blanktom6049
@blanktom6049 29 күн бұрын
I wonder if it's a generational thing. I'm probably close to your age and I always wrote "x" like (B). I was surprised to see it so low in the results.
@elan425
@elan425 28 күн бұрын
I’m 18 and I use b. I also use a curved f for functions
@genio2509
@genio2509 28 күн бұрын
​@@elan425Same. I also like to do a cursive i for √-1, and add a curve kinda like iota ι with the dot as a variable. My y is also either cursive or regular (basically A and B) And of course, I use ñ.
@elan425
@elan425 28 күн бұрын
@@genio2509 what’s the ñ for. I’m only in calc 1. Also I just use a regular y but usually just use f(x) instead.
@genio2509
@genio2509 28 күн бұрын
@elan425 ñ is a joke. Back in the day most English speakers had no idea how to pronounce ñ there was a massive running joke where Spanish speakers would just spam ñ to English speakers. It has died out though. But I still use ñ as a third variable when I decide to use n and m. I don't like using y in calculus though, I'd rather stick with f(x), g(x) and h(x) in it (I'd still stick with one function because curved looks really nice), idk just a me thing. But anywhere else I do y the same treatment as x.
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 Ай бұрын
1:13 I would simply write 5X in this situation. Because 5 times x means 5 exes
@esoij
@esoij Ай бұрын
What does this mean
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 Ай бұрын
@@esoij 5X meaning 5 times x but without writing a times sign. It is unnecessary 5X means that there are 5 exes.
@HarisRehmanGG
@HarisRehmanGG Ай бұрын
5×x = 5x
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 Ай бұрын
@@HarisRehmanGG exactly
@thomasw.oreskov9797
@thomasw.oreskov9797 Ай бұрын
Yes that is exactly right. How can anyone even doubt that? NB: From Denmark, and doing it as in "A".
@starleaf-luna
@starleaf-luna Ай бұрын
I was taught, and everyone I've met here, just puts a dot for multiplication.
@Wildcard71
@Wildcard71 29 күн бұрын
In algebra, even that is left out.
@K42U
@K42U 29 күн бұрын
Yeah. I'd just write 5x using option (A). I wouldn't write it as 5xx or 5•x.
@munastronaut8147
@munastronaut8147 29 күн бұрын
​@@Wildcard71Parentheses are taking over
@kylezdancewicz7346
@kylezdancewicz7346 28 күн бұрын
To difficult, 5x
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 28 күн бұрын
Same, I use a dot, especially when writing values of known constants: 2π=2•3.14=6.28
@Petiscorei
@Petiscorei Ай бұрын
I write the first line with spirals on both sides and the second line like a normal line, it's cool
@Garfield_Minecraft
@Garfield_Minecraft 21 күн бұрын
Just X and multiplication is • or *
@fuscello
@fuscello 19 күн бұрын
I really don’t like asterisk for multiplication because that is usually the generic symbol used for a made up operation (that is somewhat extended to the dot, it’s really useful to show multiplication without any symbol when you do equations with both multiplications and other operations that use the same dot symbol)
@TYMCCK
@TYMCCK 19 күн бұрын
how about cross product
@DefRH
@DefRH 17 күн бұрын
I once had a teacher who wrote x like μ but backwards. It was my first algebra lesson.
@penguinlim
@penguinlim 16 күн бұрын
could the teacher have been trying to write "x" like in sütterlinschrift (German cursive)? (look up the alphabet if you don't know it)
@jemappellemerci
@jemappellemerci 9 күн бұрын
@@penguinlimI just looked that up, it reminds me of the Greek Zeta (ζ)
@SashikaSandeepa
@SashikaSandeepa 18 күн бұрын
A lack of rizz... D is the goat 🐐
@chocolateangel8743
@chocolateangel8743 Ай бұрын
C = British styling (from what I have seen) D = Indian styling (from India, what I have seen)
@bungeepete7393
@bungeepete7393 Ай бұрын
My math teacher who is indian wrote it like D so I guess this matches
@confusedbottle6453
@confusedbottle6453 29 күн бұрын
I’m Indian and I always use C because it comes more naturally than me and is more symmetrical
@meow0112
@meow0112 29 күн бұрын
I am Indian. I use D cause it just seems smoother to write 😅
@iawgnialhuukadnas
@iawgnialhuukadnas 26 күн бұрын
Im not indian but from a neighboring country of India, I use D
@LaTortuePGM
@LaTortuePGM 12 күн бұрын
i guess i'm indian now
@LangSphere
@LangSphere 19 күн бұрын
0:55 i use a dot for multiplication, not an x.
@broyo2008
@broyo2008 16 күн бұрын
Unless you got numbers and it looks like a decimal point. I prefer star (*)
@minhduc21
@minhduc21 15 күн бұрын
​​​@@broyo2008 My country schools taught me using a comma for decimal point, and a dot for multiplication
@broyo2008
@broyo2008 15 күн бұрын
@@minhduc21 ah Europe?
@aspectreishauntingeurope
@aspectreishauntingeurope 15 күн бұрын
​@@broyo2008that has never happened to me. you if write your multiplication in the center and your decimal at the bottom, it's trivial to tell them apart
@broyo2008
@broyo2008 15 күн бұрын
@@aspectreishauntingeurope doesn't really work out in big equations
@TheLetterJ13
@TheLetterJ13 28 күн бұрын
as someone who crosses my Zs horizontally, that diagonal crossbar on the Z just killed me inside
@dragskcinnay3184
@dragskcinnay3184 14 күн бұрын
I always use c). I write using cursive-ish letters for handwriting, so that's naturally what I use for math (well, physics in my case). Plus, I feel like it helps disambiguate with capital letters (which I typically write with a typewriter-like style in equation, but sometimes cursive-style too). I also sometimes artificially introduce differences to disambiguate : i make sure that my capital X is more tall than wide, i write real multiplication with a very small × sign, and cross product for vectors with a much larger × (the height of a capital letter, but I make sure the branches are at a good 90° to differenciate with a capital X). Using cursive-style also helps diferentiate v, from V, from lowercase nu
@elatior
@elatior 11 күн бұрын
I write it as in A) as it's the most efficient. I haven't seen anyone write multiplication as "x" beyond the context of simple arithmetic. For the cross product symbol, the vectors get their own arrows and x is rarely used as the vector name so it isn't confusing. You can also write the operator symbol slightly higher than the variables.
@Icematt12
@Icematt12 Ай бұрын
I was taught to use C and that is how I remember it being in learning material and exams.
@alejrandom6592
@alejrandom6592 17 күн бұрын
b) cuz a) looks like × which is used in vector calc
@e7_pl
@e7_pl 14 күн бұрын
For me d) is how I write an uppercase H, c) is how I was taught to write x at the beginning of primary school (in cursive) and a) is how I write it now, after an English teacher told me that the cursive x was illegible some time later in primary school. The problem with the multiplication sign thankfully doesn't exist in Poland as we always use the dot (although I use it very rarely)
@samuraijackson241
@samuraijackson241 16 күн бұрын
Use the first one for functions f(x). The second one for when i feel fancy and decide to write with cursive. Third one for representing an unknown value in mathematic equations and the fourth one when i am high.
@NaThingSerious
@NaThingSerious 28 күн бұрын
I’ve always been taught and used the curved x for maths (the channel logo as you called it), it’s just as quick as the regular x as it’s till only 2 lines, and I find it’s even easier to write as once you finish your pen is already on the correct side (as in the pen finishes on the right, whereas when writing x normally, the pen ends on the left). When I’m writing quickly, sometimes it can end up looking more like D, the æ looking one, but I never do it with straight lines as I still use the multiplication symbol as an x quite a lot.
@Inspirator_AG112
@Inspirator_AG112 16 күн бұрын
Lower-case X I just always do normally, English or math. Upper-case X, however, I always do normally *except it is crossed, like some people do Zs or 7s;* this is to differentiate it more from a lower-case X. (Also English or math.)
@aComedicPianist
@aComedicPianist 29 күн бұрын
I write x like X) by not lifting up my pencil. It’s way harder to show it with text. Writing a straight vertical line is the most ambiguous thing in my handwriting: it’s both a lowercase l and the number 1 (I use the cursive l in math). It looks like a 2 from everyone I’ve heard and is read as such by them if they aren’t told that it’s a 1. The weirdest part is that my 2’s get read as 2’s but look so much different from my 1’s. My 1 looks like a crowbar but with goosenecks on both ends, starting concave down and ending concave up, but the “shaft” is still vertical (enough). I like to think of the goosenecks as serifs. 😊 Writing something like |ln1| would probably be super confusing, but I always put parentheses for functions, so I would write it as |ln(1)|. I do write absolute value bars as completely vertical and longer than any of my straight lines, no goosenecks or serifs. My 11 could also be read as an uppercase U, but I write an uppercase U without serifs. My 11 is also how I start my uppercase H.
@someonestolemyname
@someonestolemyname 15 күн бұрын
Most people I see use A), but I was taught to use C) since primary school and that is what I stick to ever since. B) is like a cursive x and I can understand why people would use it if they are used to write cursive, but I tend to mode change to print when I write maths lest I write function names in cursive. In regards to Greek Chi, I usually write it with a very long down stroke and a small upstroke so it looks more like a flipped and rotated cursive f.
@tchevrier
@tchevrier 29 күн бұрын
in all my years of engineering I've never used the "x" symbol to denote multiplication, nor the " '/. " sign to denote division. Those are symbols pretty much ceased to exist around high school. And when you are writing out lots of long equations, the simpler the symbol the quicker you can write them.
@Danielx9001
@Danielx9001 29 күн бұрын
x for multiplication fell out of use as soon as I reach 4th grade for me
@Dark139hunter
@Dark139hunter 29 күн бұрын
I haven’t seen the grade school division symbol since forever now, it’s so inefficient to write
@tchevrier
@tchevrier 29 күн бұрын
@@Danielx9001 yeah, pretty much once you learned algebra.
@Firefly256
@Firefly256 23 күн бұрын
@@tchevriervector cross product tho...
@Rio_1111
@Rio_1111 17 күн бұрын
​@@Firefly256Not really a problem, since the cross product is never between variables, and vectors have the little arrow on top.
@twelfthdoc
@twelfthdoc 27 күн бұрын
I use C, because it was at a time when my school was still really strict on using cursive for writing, and variables in our maths textbooks used italics, which helped make the x stand out more.
@wyrmofvt
@wyrmofvt 13 күн бұрын
B is what I use most of the time. The embellishments aren't egregious and distinguish it from the times symbol. I use D for chi. The exact notation isn't as important as consistency of use. If you can read what you wrote accurately, it's all good.
@MyAccountWithNoShame
@MyAccountWithNoShame 3 күн бұрын
I write every x (in math or otherwise) as option B since I was maybe 13. I remember I got into the habit of writing my x's cursive because I wanted to avoid confusion in algebra.
@bricky-brikson9487
@bricky-brikson9487 14 күн бұрын
i use B. simple but visually distinct enough from the letter (and i use the dot for multiplication). chi goes low anyway. if i were to write chi, it’d be long like a p or q, so no confusion there. in school we were never expressly told how to write x, but basically all my teachers used either A or B, mostly B. I’ve basically never seen someone using C or D lmao
@tasha2749
@tasha2749 29 күн бұрын
I use the "D.x" because that how my teacher on middle school though me to write x on algebra at grade 7, but funnily enough my teacher past 8 grades never use that x (maybe it never popular on student idk) and after i go to highschool the way i write x make my classmates really confused and even though i want to write it normally i just somehow never able to write it in different way when doing math
@OnexLen
@OnexLen 14 күн бұрын
I usually use parenthesis for multiplication to avoid the confusion 5x(2) = 5x times 2 or if I'll use X for multiply then I will just use a different variable like y's and z's
@chitlitlah
@chitlitlah 29 күн бұрын
When writing q and l (lowercase L), I just put a little tail at the bottom curving to the right. That's how I was taught to write them in elementary school anyway. There's no need to go all cursive to differentiate them from a 9 and 1. I also put serifs on my I (uppercase i).
@Rio_1111
@Rio_1111 17 күн бұрын
My 9s and gs all look the same, though I put the little dash through q anyway, because it looks nice.
@nickcampbell3812
@nickcampbell3812 19 күн бұрын
This reminded of me about how I write my v's in math. I and v are quite similar letters to write, but their functions in English are very different on account of u being a vowel, which means it is rather difficult to mistake a u for a v or vice versa in a normal word. However, u and v are used together sometimes in math. For example, Integration by Parts usually uses u and v. Some problems with vectors will also use u and v. Some letters just tend to be used in pairs: a,b c,d f,g,(h) i,j h,k m,n p,q r,s,(t) u,v (w), x, y, (z) To name some groups I've seen.
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 25 күн бұрын
An uppercase ex and a lowercase ex (any letters) are different variables. Eg. X + x = 2 does not have only one solution. Use the same case everywhere to represent that variable.
@Meophist
@Meophist 28 күн бұрын
I write similarly to the second variation of B, but I keep the second stroke short to make it look more distinct.
@roninlviaquez
@roninlviaquez 29 күн бұрын
A) can be mistaken with capital X or product C) has the risk of separation in the middle D) wastes time and ink
@KittiesAreNice88
@KittiesAreNice88 29 күн бұрын
If D makes you lose non-negligable time then you weren't going to finish it in time anyway....
@tasha2749
@tasha2749 29 күн бұрын
You actually write d really fast because you skip the time of lifting your pen
@AySz88
@AySz88 29 күн бұрын
​@@tasha2749Makes sense! Now I'm wondering why that didn't become the standard cursive x (yet we're stuck with that abomination of an r).
@roninlviaquez
@roninlviaquez 28 күн бұрын
@@tasha2749 even with no time wasted, you still use more ink
@felipevasconcelos6736
@felipevasconcelos6736 27 күн бұрын
@@AySz88 maybe because it’s very easily confused with æ.
@MrBrainFog
@MrBrainFog 2 күн бұрын
option C is my favorite. I don't mind that it takes a little bit longer to write; I put a lot of effort into the aesthetic of my notes. Not as much in homework and exam problems, but I still like using the Chanel Logo x :P
@IvyANguyen
@IvyANguyen 26 күн бұрын
Just like a regular x. Some letters I write differently to avoid ambiguity: I put a horizontal line through my z; line through my 7; the stroke on the side of the 1; diagonal stroke through my lowercase q; cursive lowercase L, s, and t. I think that's it.
@FirstLast-uj9ud
@FirstLast-uj9ud 17 күн бұрын
Everyone I know who grew up in Canada writes their x’s like version b). All the Indians write it as d). I’m the odd one out who writes it at c). I actually do write my lowercase q without the cursive flourish; however, it is easily distinguishable from my 9 because I write the loop of q on the line, and I write my 9s curved more like typed fonts.
@HighKingTurgon
@HighKingTurgon 28 күн бұрын
I'm b. To me, d is a Greek kappa. C seems to be an odd Britishism. If I write A, I usually mean "multiplies".
@HexaBurger
@HexaBurger 16 күн бұрын
I write it like C) in regular writing and x for writing equations because then it's easier to discuss with others
@عليعليعلي-ظ9خ6ج
@عليعليعلي-ظ9خ6ج 12 күн бұрын
18-6i/1+9x18=1-2yi/1-yi+2y2 pleas solve this equation this from my teacher
@Ertplays
@Ertplays 17 күн бұрын
4:29 the first lowercase l looks like the absolute value (|x| vs lxl). Write your ones with the top diagonal line
@nayeem7359
@nayeem7359 Ай бұрын
I use something in between c & d 😅
@marmite-land
@marmite-land 17 күн бұрын
At least in France but in other countries as well, writing the unknown variable as x or χ is seen as the sign of a beginner/outsider, because the cross shapes can easily be mistaken for the multiplication sign ×. The most common way by far is æ, with ɔc being the other, marginal but still present way to write it, although it's somewhat childish. In addition, the unknown variable (or any other variable) is never uppercase. This eliminates the confusion between 9 (which is full width and has a curved tail) and q, and 2 and z (but plenty use the cursive 𝔷)
@best-girlviro819
@best-girlviro819 29 күн бұрын
I used to write it as A, but then I switched to D since I wasn't able to distinguish the lowercase x from the capital X other than making one smaller than the other. I also use the dot for multiplication. This way I have the minimum amount of ambiguity.
@gaemer3967
@gaemer3967 20 күн бұрын
C takes the same amounf of time as AB, D happens when I write X very fast and it just becomes continuous. I have done all variations and have settled on C being the least ambiguous. Also if you do physics another big thing is v and u look the same. My solution is to add a curl in v as done with B.
@poteyatocheapp6978
@poteyatocheapp6978 28 күн бұрын
In algebra, my lowercase Ls are usually a vertical line curved at the top and bottom
@CasabaHowitzer
@CasabaHowitzer Күн бұрын
I'm from Germany, and I don't think I've ever used a x b for multiplication (not even with explicit numbers), always a ⋅ b (usually if a and b are numerical values or for emphasis, otherwise ab). Everyone I know uses the ordinary x. d) is the worst in my opinion, because it takes the longest to write, d) is not as bad but still takes longer than a) and b) is unusable as it looks like a chi. Therefore a) is the only option for me, but the bars of my x are usually somewhat curved, whereas the cross product I try to write smaller, in the middle of the line, and with straight bars. And in my field (physics), vectors are usually marked with an arrow in handwritten text.
@StevenTorrey
@StevenTorrey Ай бұрын
&iT WANTS TO BE WRITTEN SO IT DOES NOT GET CONFUSED WITH MULTIPLICATION X.
@Jerry-sf5sc
@Jerry-sf5sc Ай бұрын
If you're over the age of 10 then you would know that multiplication is a dot not an x
@zaikick8339
@zaikick8339 Ай бұрын
​@@Jerry-sf5scwhen you're not working with vectors, dot and cross product both are fine
@scrapheap339
@scrapheap339 29 күн бұрын
​@@Jerry-sf5scunless you're in a country like the UK that doesn't use a dot for multiplication
@StevenTorrey
@StevenTorrey 26 күн бұрын
@@Jerry-sf5sc That the silliest thing I've heard in I don't know how long. For all the math videos I've been watching, it is pretty much interchangeable with an X for multiplication predominating, and an italic x for a variable.
@dazartingstall6680
@dazartingstall6680 Ай бұрын
Version C, here. In fact it became such a habit that my hand-writing x followed suit.
@刌
@刌 21 күн бұрын
I always use D) because it's the fastest one and it helps me in solving a question fast when racing through classmates in or speedrunning some exercise. A) is long and actually makes me confuse between the multiply × and the X even though if I change their sizes
@nilarghyachatterjee5392
@nilarghyachatterjee5392 21 күн бұрын
EXACTLY
@Ishan_verma
@Ishan_verma 19 күн бұрын
I first draw the top right to bottom left stroke as straight line, then draw the second stroke like a mirrored integral.
@lyngoodie986
@lyngoodie986 2 күн бұрын
when i started learning algebra i wrote it like "ɔc" but then slowly evolved into writing it like "æ", I clearly remember asking my tution teacher how did he write his x like "æ" because it looked pretty lmao
@doomcake2020
@doomcake2020 26 күн бұрын
Hahaha I love this topic, thanks for the deep dive!
@NeunEinser
@NeunEinser 18 күн бұрын
For q I do "ꝗ" without the fancy curvey line, but with the extra stroke. Since q is supposed to go lower than 9, indicating were the baseline is made sense to me. 9 also looks more like a g for me with a rounded hook. So for g I do something like "ꬶ" instead with the hook grossing itself. I go a bit lower like that unicode character, like a non-italic version of "ℊ". For l and 1, I write 1 not as a single stroke, but with the extra small diagonal line on its tip, and l is slightly curved, a bit like an opening parenthesis, with a more pronounced curve at the bottom. The best unicode representation I could find is "ᶩ", but I also curve it inwards. The extra loop I don't do. Also, 7 is "7̵" for me, with an extra horizontal line through the center to distinguish it better from 1. For Z I do "Ƶ", with a horizontal stroke rather than a perpendicular one to the other line. I also do that for lowercase z. I don't do this just for maths, but in my normal handwriting too when just writing text. "x" is also just the A version for me, and I use a dot for multiplication.
@jademonass2954
@jademonass2954 16 күн бұрын
A if im writing in print, D if im in cursive also, ive never seen anybode above 2nd grade multiplying with anything but a dot
@bruhnish598
@bruhnish598 18 күн бұрын
I write it like A if I’m writing with my left hand and D if I’m writing with my right hand
@AsbestosEnjoyer
@AsbestosEnjoyer 17 күн бұрын
Like top half x, bottom half triangle, like an hourglass without a top lid
@zipgret88
@zipgret88 8 күн бұрын
Me, a linguistics nerd: Voiceless velar fricative, voiceless uvular fricative, open-mid back rounded vowel followed by a C(C isn't in the IPA and is pronounced differently depending on the language), and Near-open front unrounded vowel!
@ThomasTubeHD
@ThomasTubeHD 16 күн бұрын
I used A version to write an obvious x but I would also use B version in order to differentiate it from being indicated as a multiplication symbol
@barneyhall2753
@barneyhall2753 9 күн бұрын
I've always used a) as the operator and c) for a variable.
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w 29 күн бұрын
No mathematician of any repute would succumb so low as to write a product with the × symbol.
@throwawayavclubber7269
@throwawayavclubber7269 29 күн бұрын
What about u⃗ × v⃗?
@Rio_1111
@Rio_1111 17 күн бұрын
​@@throwawayavclubber7269That one makes it distinguishable because it's only ever found beween vectors, wich always have the little arrow on top.
@vqinet3287
@vqinet3287 24 күн бұрын
A has work arounds for most situations, but in linear algebra where the dot & cross products are different, you really want c or d for clarity
@DionDPR
@DionDPR Ай бұрын
I use A, but the right part is connected and not separated, lol. Well, i guess B is closer.
@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin
@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin 16 күн бұрын
I write "normal x" as cursive (C), or (D) if I have to write really fast. I don't write x as (A) usually, because it requires different pen when x is a vector, which is normally written as bold characters. Well, (B) though... the letter "chi" has been written by me for chi-square distribution.
@CasabaHowitzer
@CasabaHowitzer Күн бұрын
You use bold characters in handwritten text? Why? Just put an arrow above the character to denote a vector.
@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin
@Yubin_Lee_Doramelin Күн бұрын
@CasabaHowitzer Yes. I don't use arrows to denote a vector because not every vector is Euclidean, and the Vector Space is much broader than Euclidean Space. I think I repeated each stroke to bolden the letters...
@emilwandel
@emilwandel 16 күн бұрын
I write it with different stroke order. left down to rightup and then leftup to right down. I was taught to write left to write and to start at the line with lowercase letters. Backstrockes are rare. Anyway I find it hard to decipher channel logos. and x is a cross not a soft touch. Chi is a letter that goes below the writing line and is easy to distinguish. Crossproduct x is not poistioned at the ground line and blocked like a square. u, v, w, n, ny my, are very hard to decipher. More over one and pipe are the worst. it just looks like a prionsrr marking days.
@lochie2804
@lochie2804 29 күн бұрын
All I know is that lower-case "x" has to look different to "×" Additionally, lower-case letters are generally better to use than capital letters because capital letters can sometimes mean different things I tend to use option c because it's curvy, unlike × and X Edit: I just finished watching the video, kinda surprised my method isn't at least top 2, but I guess that's because we're all taught different things and/or tend to choose what's easiest for us. I'm fairly certain I've always seen x, throughout schooling, as the way I do it. Oh well.
@mtaur4113
@mtaur4113 Ай бұрын
Mine is usually closer to (a), but if there is a cross product × in the mix, it can be important to have that cross be the straightest and most symmetric cross ever, and it also hovers mid-line higher than x sitting on the ground, so it is fine. Also v and w tend to show up more than x here.
@li-am-3
@li-am-3 28 күн бұрын
i do c of course
@md2perpe
@md2perpe 28 күн бұрын
I write it as alternative A. I'm Swedish and here we usually use ⋅ for product, not ×, so there is no big risk of confusion.
@EagleFPV43
@EagleFPV43 21 күн бұрын
A for multiplication and C for a variable
@Damons-Old-Soul
@Damons-Old-Soul 20 күн бұрын
א Is close to how I have always written it. It is the lowercase version of the cursive x, that I learned as a kid. _(Copy and paste gave me problems and that is why it is weirdly placed)_
@RooiGevaar19
@RooiGevaar19 17 күн бұрын
I guess it's a RTL script problem. When I mix Hebrew and English, sometimes the apps can't set their script directions properly.
@tambuwalmathsclass
@tambuwalmathsclass 23 күн бұрын
I used the last one always
@aoay
@aoay Ай бұрын
I use option A for upper case X and option C for lower case x. Since I am not trying to join my mathematical symbols together I don't use a cursive script.
@tomahawk3645
@tomahawk3645 19 күн бұрын
D. The teachers told me to in fourth grade math class for algebra. Doing it ever since. For every other case I write it normally
@amazingfireboy1848
@amazingfireboy1848 22 күн бұрын
My 8th grade math teacher forced our class to write χ because apparently everyone in college would look at us weird or something, and now in college I'm the weird one 💀
@Phi1618033
@Phi1618033 29 күн бұрын
B is my way.
@CherryBlossomBeats
@CherryBlossomBeats 16 күн бұрын
Funnily enough i dont write x like any of these, its a little hard to describe over text but the way i do it is top right corner -> bottom left corner -> top left corner -> bottom right corner, with the bottom left to top left part being connected so theres three lines instead of two like a normal x, I write in a sort of half cursive, its not proper cursive but i often connect strokes in letters and words just bc i write so fast
@justkev1044
@justkev1044 15 күн бұрын
Wouldn’t that be easily confused with “proportional to”?
@xardasnecromancer590
@xardasnecromancer590 17 күн бұрын
The last one looks more like Greek kappa. I personally use the third option and though it's the same with Cyrillic "cha" (pronounced like Greek chi, though when followed by i it's much softer in Greek), I don't recall using Cyrillic letters in maths.
@hongkonger885
@hongkonger885 29 күн бұрын
I somehow ended up writing a blend between A and B. It's like B but the first stroke has the curve moved to the centre of the x.
@joe_z
@joe_z 19 күн бұрын
I write x like a shortened χ (because it's cursive), but I write actual χ noticeably longer, so it's okay.
@jasonenns5076
@jasonenns5076 19 күн бұрын
The Greek letter: χ notice that the bottom is complete under the line like the letter: g.
@kyleo.6946
@kyleo.6946 23 күн бұрын
I use A but when working with probability functions the X is the random variable and the value is the curvy x like C
@allnamesaretakenb4
@allnamesaretakenb4 Ай бұрын
That lower case q was just wrong.... you write it like you first wrote the lower case q, but with a small horizontal line across the bottom part of the vertical line....
@GroundThing
@GroundThing 21 күн бұрын
I'd imagine, and I'm sure it differs by location, that the "x" (outside the cross product) way of symbolizing multiplication is going to disappear within a few generations, for a few reasons: a) the advent of greater and greater digital proliferation, which "*" as the standard, and b) it wasn't that long ago that algebra was considered "advanced math" (in my mom's school, Algebra was taken at the end of High School as an optional class, and if that seems bizzare to folks younger than me, remember not only did you not used to always have a calculator in your pocket, but calculators used to be expensive business machines, so mental and paper arithmetic used to be a lot more important), and while that has mostly changed, there was a lag as elementary school teachers may not have ever taken algebra or beyond, but that lag is going away, so now I suspect teachers are more inclined to the thought of "why should I teach this increasingly archaic symbol for multiplication, when I can just present the dot syntax?" They may need to learn it because, for instance, calculators still use it, but that's even likely to change if the culture changes.
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