The French F-16 is Actually Amazing | F-16AM War Thunder

[@EL_CHPP0]

Radar hmd is absolutely critical now, being able to fire your arhm and turn away before your opponents is the key to winning.

[@chayforster5138]

I’ve never been able to lock with radar hmd. Not even once

[@thefolder69]

​@@chayforster5138 you have to press the lock target key lmao you can't just move the box over the target

[@Dertava02]

Hmd has been reported and acknowledged, so it's likely to come soon

[@EL_CHPP0]

@acdfg3 you have to spam the lock button over the target sometimes

[@Ryan-go6id]

HMD on F-15 sometimes locks up and doesn’t want to lock a jet coming in hot. Like for no reason at all it won’t lock. So then the guy shoots me and I’m stubborn agro so I eat the missile lol

[@Johnathan-mj4ei]

all my german mains can we just cry?

[@amari2509]

🫂

[@notmyrealaccount5245]

I'm skipping this update so my tears is spent on somewhere better

[@9tr0n]

no i hate leo 2a7s

[@dilldoe1991]

@@9tr0n trueee and 122b’s they can suck it

[@gnarl12]

Not before US mains

[@SeekerHead]

I disagree. HMD is quite a must at this point with ARH meta. Need to get that AMRAAM off first and defend first, 20 KM HMD is super meta rn

[@EL_CHPP0]

Facts

[@AernieYT]

I do believe it also should have access to HMD. A bug report has been made about it.

[@GeneralLee2000]

For me at least it's been incredibly inconsistent and honestly not worth the trouble of using but to each their own. It'll probably get it at some point too 🤣

[@its-seeker]

@@GeneralLee2000 What's been working extremely consistently for me with the MICA is HMD locking whilst practically almost notching and counting on the thrust vector to immediately turn and laser beam towards the target head-on, giving the least amount of time for the target to turn cold/notch. Had some salty Aim-120 users from this ha!

[@DigitalShaolin]

@@its-seekerlol, people underestimate the mica

[@elenaeverett4481]

This implies the existence of F-16PM

[@rodneycook3674]

Is that the one that gets the magics?

[@JustMinna]

The A Blk 15 (with the 9M) is the same br as the Netz btw

[@DeadSkyWT]

Same FM?

[@vince3573]

@@DeadSkyWT yeah

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@vince3573 no, worse fm. Netz is block 10.

[@DeadSkyWT]

@@GeneralLee2000 thanks.

[@dilldoe1991]

@@DeadSkyWT order from best to worst is block 10 (things like the netz and f16aj), block15adf, and f16c if im not mistaken and i guess the f16d barak would be even worse because i think it might be a bit heavier

[@Evrimomono]

radar HMD is kind of crucial in a scenario where two people who know how to defeat missiles clash because you don't have to face your opponent directly to launch a missile. You can lock before you turn, keep it at gimble limit and launch your missile and go defensive right away as opposed to having to point your nose on the guy that can and will get you destroyed. It is buggy and sometimes just lock around the player, refuse to lock and etc but its usefulness outweigh the issues

[@feenix1188]

Tipwinders as canon, confirmed

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@feenix1188 REAL

[@badasstasticusbadass4908]

Kind of crazy to think how strong both the french and italian tech trees has become in these last few months.

[@dilldoe1991]

Not gonna lie i love radar hmd its saved me too many times to just brush off not having it

[@EL_CHPP0]

It's an extremely important feature to have now

[@Red9_Channel]

4:18 Entire SB Air playerbase: "You said what?"

[@Hudsonr0cks]

This is said for rb not sb

[@blackpheniox1929]

Babe new General Pee video just dropped let’s goooo🎉!!!!

[@finnm.2582]

Ironically, the AGM-65G IRL has heavy (300lb or 136kg for the normal world), tandem shaped charge warhead and not a semi armor piercing one. Although not specifically designed as an Anti-Ship Missile (that would be the AGM-65F, same warhead, same seeker but different tracking algorythms) it can fullfill this role to some degree against small and medium sized vessels.

[@salltyboi]

Lee I needed your soft soothing voice on this Sunday night

[@Insulino36]

For sim battles this seems to be really good, having MAW, a better flight performance, extra countermeasures, is all really great, radar HMD is really good in air RB, but for sim, is not that useful because you have to pay attention to a lot of things already, and unless you use VR or TrackIR it is not really useful.

[@merf5549]

Me crying in german that the french got this aircraft:

[@dabu55ify]

6:16 bruh that bomb glided all the way to the enemy af 💀

[@GeneralLee2000]

No idea what happened lol

[@miniraptor3211]

Even the bombs are AF camping

[@jmanthunder]

When we getting the actually French F-15

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@jmanthunder NOOOOO

[@jeandelacroix6726]

Maybe the day France gets a French Meteor (ifykyk)

[@zachantes1161]

YEEEEEEES

[@pelto7706]

Neither belgium or Netherland ever get F15 tho

[@jmanthunder]

@@pelto7706 France themselves had evaluations on the trainer F-15a and was never a service aircraft, but that hadn't stopped anything in Warthunder Not really for or against this since it was more a joke and more in the crowd that thought the Dutch Sub tree should have been in Germany.

[@KaguyasBeat]

That GBU just cruising tho xD

[@aurelian2738]

After the mirage 2000 could you use the F-16d(Israeli) and comment on the derbi missles.

[@CPUfy]

The tipwinders

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@CPUfy

[@notmyrealaccount5245]

Should be in German tt but lol now the French tt no longer pure

[@Johnathan-mj4ei]

we germany mains should cry to gaijin

[@notmyrealaccount5245]

Ef2000 is germany last hope but surely as always gaijin will add it after adding f22 and su57 bcs of 'end of the line' plane

[@charleston-re3dw]

Belgium is closer to france than germany

[@lelandcheng9187]

F16am has a busted cracked tws. Not sure if it's intended but if you swap one inner pylon missle for a counter measure pod your Tws display all tracked targets in its scan angle on screen sort of like a pansir. It's super useful but clutter your screen

[@nxghtmare83]

No AMRAAM on the wingtips is insane

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@nxghtmare83

[@barker536]

Hard to believe that the best plane in French tech tree is actually F-16😂

[@thehigherman9918]

Still amazed they decided that they add 2 F16s and both are Belgian instead of 1 Belgian 1 Dutch. Feels more like a Belgium nation instead of Benelux. 3/9 are Dutch...

[@garrettobrien5197]

Hey Lee. Can you make a video comparing future Fox-3s. Stuff we can expect in the game at some point like the AIM-120C/D. R-77-1/M R-33/37 R27EA etc.

[@XpunisherX8152]

Wish the MLU in the Chinese Tech Tree had its 90 countermeasures back and added 120A 😢

[@SATORI_111]

Sidewinders on the wing tips smh

[@danielwang6201]

Bet you dont know if you take the MAW pod it can actually project all the targets your radar is tracking on the screen like AWG-9 in dev server

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@danielwang6201 I do, but I'm pretty sure it's a bug which is part of the reason I didn't show it

[@thombrick]

That's part of the HMD that gaijin actually did add, but not the original HMD functions 😅

[@dakygigater2654]

I was wondering where do u find those graphs of power to speed ratios of diferent aircrafts

[@ciastekkun1423]

Can someone tell me why I can't see the indicator of what my rocket's radar is seeing? Edit: I know why it wasn't working, and it's all because of the Litening II pod

[@benjamin91821]

Ah yes giving the gah damn French the best f-16 in the game before the US. (My us main ah complaining)

[@bluefox9436]

True but that kinda pissed me off as well... I just want a top tier F16 that isn't a complete brick.

[@gtmike916]

?? The F-16C has Radar HMD the AM does NOT. It makes a huge difference! Sure yeah in CAS it’s got more flares and yes it’s lighter but cmon now. It ain’t that much better imo. As a matter of a fact… it’s about equal at best since most of the time you’re gonna be firing Fox-3s to begin with.

[@Juho-uf8si]

yes US has been suffering so much with f14's f16's and f15's in the game :

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@benjamin91821 uhh, the US had the best F-16 for like almost a year?

[@gtmike916]

@@Juho-uf8si Lmfao I know right? Literally the best top tier line up in the game right now. AIM-120s and AIM-54s and amazing flight models.

[@dilldoe1991]

Lee just out of curiosity, which key do you have your chaff bound to? I literally cannot find any frees keys which im not already using and think having a chaff specific key would be nice for retaining flares.

[@chayforster5138]

Bind a key for switching between chaff and flare so you can keep using the countermeasure button you’re used to

[@s.markoff666]

I use flares on N and chaff on B, don't know if N has anything by default on it but planes that have chaff don't really have bomb bays so you could use that

[@AMDeZani]

I personally have Flares on R, and Chaff on 4.

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@dilldoe1991 I have my flares on RMB and my chaff on enter + RMB

[@dilldoe1991]

@@GeneralLee2000 😭

[@glitchhacker300]

How did you get rid of the icons at the bottom of your screen for visual loadout and whatnot?

[@kgetman88]

There is an icon that is used to close this menu. I think it was binded to "/" by default when they introduced it

[@spray916]

AGM-65Ds are the best mavs as of right now. The got a buff and are super consistent 1 taps now. Not much reason to being the 65Gs unless you need to splash kill several AAs at once or something like that.

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@spray916 (I actually had one hit a leopard and fail to kill literally that game) but yeah I agree about not much reason to bring the 65G

[@spray916]

@@GeneralLee2000 I didn't notice. I really only played the 16C a few times in GRB this patch so I didnt test extensively. My very limited experience they've been really consistent though.

[@BeedramWallatusk]

1:04 What is the source of these graphs?

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@BeedramWallatusk bot that pulls from the files

[@Metagross555]

AS30L nord supremacy in terms of A2G

[@desertrecce5676]

F16 is the meta. cant beat it in bvr bcuz it has the best tws radar and insane mid alt performance, if you get close you eat a 9m and if you get closer you lose the dogfight. i have like 20 sum aces in the 16c since the patch and have been basically unkillable unless im severely outnumbered or screwed up. as long as you know how to position well the 16c is by far the best in game rn at least for the current mid altitude bvr meta

[@aurelian2738]

As a French Israeli air main the update is wonderful

[@Andy_M.S.c]

HMD is absolutely critical lol. That statement from you makes me want to disregard anything else you’ve said

[@Hurin170]

it may be french, but it's still an F=16. F-16 stay winning 🙏

[@Ryan-go6id]

Saw you in game yesterday! :D (we lost)

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@Ryan-go6id sad!!!

[@mochabear88]

ty

[@camaradeKC]

the flare pods are buggued btw

[@NagatoSnow]

It is lighter, but the engine was worse than the f16 and does not have hmd for radar, which is critical in wvr fight right now

[@rnzafdude]

It's so bs the Italians and Taiwanese MLUs don't get 120's... If France gets F-16s, I feel like Taiwan deserves their Mirages!!

[@aether-gaming.]

hell even the US F-16A ADF could and did fit AIM-120s - but Gaijin wants it to stay 12.0, so it stays 12.0 same reasoning the Italian and Taiwanese F-16A MLUs didn’t get them probably a Mirage 2000-5EI would be neat to see

[@rnzafdude]

@@aether-gaming. Funny thing is china already has a 12.3 jet.. So keeping it there based on that would irritate the hell outta me if true... Damnit Gaijiin!!! *Angry Fist Shake*

[@jfv2312]

You know, the Taiwanese one, I could be fine with it not having AMRAAMs because it didn't have them irl for some years, so a loadout of AIM-9M and AIM-7M would be both reasonable in game and historical, and there are other planes that could fill the gap of an early Fox-3 platform, the Mirage 2000-5EI, for example. The italian ADF is inexcusable though... Totally opposite cases imo, it's not reasonable for Italy to have exclusively an Hungarian top tier fighter

[@Moth_wt]

Wait, so it does have HMS?

[@kansyden8334]

It does for IR missiles but not Radar

[@Moth_wt]

@@kansyden8334 interesting thx

[@LtFalcon]

Wingtip sidewinders 😭😭

[@rodneycook3674]

?

[@Notanpilot]

I wouldn't say its the best, worse engine than the f16c, worse targetting pod and worse radar so yeah

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@Notanpilot the radar makes like no difference at all, the engine I showed and talked about in the video... Block 15 still beats block 50 in a dogfight. Pod might be slightly worse but like, it doesn't really make a difference?

[@brodykloster2102]

@@GeneralLee2000the f16c is a lot faster at altitude, and in acceleration so in a bvr fight I would take the block 50, in a dog fight I would take the block 15

[@Notanpilot]

@@GeneralLee2000 Well, most of my fights in air sim using the F16C against a MLU or block 10 ended up with my Block 50 outrating the block 10

[@Notanpilot]

and by what i know, its because of the engine

[@ComeauYT]

Dont despair us and Israel players, there is still a better F-16c blk to come

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@ComeauYT F-16C Block 30 my beloved...

[@suzybean13]

Wassup lee?

[@EB-Ghost6]

f15EX when? hahaha

[@derboss.]

French F-16...lol

[@ISO-420]

bro is trying to claim its lighter yet its literally the same everything besides 1 mod between f16c an AM

[@andyeulu828]

We nedd a F16AJ MLU =D

[@Shimo_28]

never was a thing

[@TheDAWinz]

Vivelefrance!

[@charleston-re3dw]

Belgian F-16* please

[@NoiseHunter-ux9vm]

RLY ? French they need f16 ?

[@Squood]

Now that we have AMRAAM’s, there’s no reason for me not to expect the F/A-18 this year, right? Please, it’s either the Eurofighter or the Hornet. Germany is the only country I didn’t use a rank 7 premium to grind, and I am close to overdosing on copium over the ICE.

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@Squood we should have already had the Hornet, the A would be DOA now if it came

[@rodneycook3674]

@@GeneralLee2000 I mean can’t it carry 10 aim120s though?

[@gambler1298]

Belgian F-16

[@backwoodblaster2664]

F16 am is belgian 🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪

[@GeneralLee2000]

Indeed. This is the french tree though :)

[@kotts9868]

ew, wingtip sidewinders

[@siemenivanciuc5121]

FRENCH? BELGIAN BRUH

[@Rafa-mp6xe]

Belgian F-16*

[@SomeWarthunderGuy]

Plen

[@akaira700]

Now French main can stop crying

[@YungRolex]

Nope they dont.