The Future of eMTBs? DJI’s Game Changing Avinox Amflow PL Carbon Pro

[@WorldwideCyclery]

What eMTB would you want this drive system in?

[@fifthcircle1]

Klunker

[@porroco]

@@WorldwideCyclery santacruz should be the one with avinox

[@ZippidyMTB]

@@WorldwideCyclery Kenevo SL

[@Mitch-rv7kf]

Santa Cruz

[@Widflyinghigh]

I build and fly digital DJ I drones and I mountain bike in my spare time. How fly for me. Solid company. Great products.

[@175thStreet]

Hot damn this is a rad bike. Unreal DJI just came in swinging like this. Very impressive.

[@Deuteross]

I love how metric system is being adopted in the US thanks to bicycle industry ;)

[@brendan1]

Except wheel and tire size. And there's two shock size units too. Metric and Imperial. Would be good if they finally gave up their hold on Imperial measurement units and went full on with metric like the rest of the world.

[@Sethimus82]

@@brendan1 ERTRO if you wanna be exact...

[@dwee420]

What makes you say that. The bike industry has been historically laughable when it comes to metric and standard

[@wvjeepguy8178]

It's only adopted where there is a massive amount of imports in the industry. Same with computer parts.

[@s.tunafish]

4:10 this is just sad, the display on a eMTB is smoother than the average display on a 100'000$ car 😂

[@shaneycarter8803]

I've been lucky enough to secure one of these on the next despatch before Christmas here in Auld Blighty 😊 after some consideration I went with the Carbon PL version as I've got a list of components to swap out. Zipp moto carbon wheelset with Big Betty and Magic Mary rubber. XX AXS T Type transmission, Reverb Axs dropper, Code ultimate stealth brakes and One up carbon bars, Ergon saddle and grips. I know there is the unknown reliability, however this is DJI whom are already a hugely successful, significant manufacturer of technology, backed by a 2 year industry standard warranty. I'm sure they will have done their due diligence, it's rated to Category 4. This will be my first emtb and I can't wait. Hope it's as good as the hype and I still want to ride my analogue bikes 👌👍 A great and honest review, always wrapped up with humour and fun. All the best WC from the UK 😊

[@davefreeman9347]

You will sell your analogues bikes within 6 months 😂

[@shaneycarter8803]

@davefreeman9347 mmm, think it's a likely possibility🤔. Will keep hold of my Cotic Hardtail though for knocking about on 👍

[@davefreeman9347]

@ as it happens Ive got a Cotic Hardtail which I love you just got to be disciplined and get out on the HT and not get swayed it’s the easiest thing to do and grab the e-bike 😂🤣 enjoy the new steed 👍

[@shaneycarter8803]

@@davefreeman9347 good choice,👌I love my BFE Max, first bike build I I built up from scratch. I'm keen on keeping my fitness, so will try to keep it's wheels turning. Fancy the ebike to get out for longer rides and enjoy more downhill fun 😊 stay safe pal 👍

[@davefreeman9347]

@ I did exactly the same 😂 during the lockdowns built a BFe max from scratch, bit of a project to keep me busy tough finding parts though during lockdown had to get my forks from Germany, exactly the same reason why I got an e-bike happy riding buddy 👌

[@JEFFREYSOLORIO]

DJI is a master of software and hardware this thing looks so sweet!

[@taol8258]

I feel like these big tech companies can just come in and take over the legacy brands if they really wanted to. Especially DJI.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Agreed! They certainly have the ability to.

[@leomman0913]

I am iffy If DJI really wants to make bikes it would look to me that they might want to just sell their motors and this is just a showcase for them. Better margins in being a part supplier

[@marklouieadame]

DJI just hold this off once they get traction they will release a leapfrog tech from their drone motor a balance of power, efficiency and most likely an AI management on pedal assistance

[@kangsterizer]

i dont like it because DJI has a terrible reputation in regards to privacy and customer service, but its true. even with all their disadvantages, everyone still buy their stuff because its .. better.

[@Joeyczhu]

@@kangsterizeryou don’t get privacy anywhere these days. The only difference is DJI is a Chinese company and the typical western racism. But then again Apple is made in China too, so there you go

[@ianfurqueron5850]

Definitely interested. I'm not bummed about it not being available in the US just yet - let other markets work out the bugs first. I'm still happy with the e-bike I have for at least another few years.

[@Daivd1111]

850w continuous is crazy! For an average person, outputting 200w average is reasonable, so it's like have extra 4 dudes paddling for you, WOW!!!

[@WorldwideCyclery]

The power is actually wild. Especially in boost mode. You'll never look at a climb the same way again 😂

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

Just ordered a PL Carbon (Australia), delivery date set Jan 10 (my eldest sons birthday...maybe I will let him take it for a spin :) ), cant wait !!

[@onetime242]

I wish I had this motor, with the pinion gearbox and belt drive and in a long travel frame, like 180+ mm front and rear.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Ok now we're talking.

[@robhaskins3068]

Silence is golden. That's why I've ordered the Pro version. E=mtb² or is the Amflow E =mtb³ ??

[@JJ_MTB_15]

It's like the computer race in the 90's. Just when you think it's peaking someone comes along and dominates.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Well said!

[@samaxel_19]

Can’t wait mine to be delivered first week of December 🤘🏽 got the PL Pro and a 170 golden fox 38 is waiting to replace the fox 36💪 I am still hopping the battery will be enough for me to play around Peak District

[@lethal93ta]

Ive been following this bike for a little while now and have the subscription on there page for info when its coming to market in the US but maybe you guys have a better idea how soon to the US market, and are you guys going to be a dealer for the bike? so tempting if you would just have one in the Lancaster PA show room for me to walk out of there with one.

[@LlenadeMalo]

I contacted Amflow directly and they said Q4 2024 for the US. Obviously we are in Q4 and there is no info. I would suspect it will be sometime in Q2 2025 at the earliest but I would love to be wrong. I think this bike could be phenomenal. They definitely got the weight way down.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We're in talks with them about carrying the bikes! As of right now we just have the one at our CA shop, and they said we should be able to expect them in the US early 2025.

[@RobySVK]

Does it have a sim card tray? How does the tracking works? How would I be notified in case of bike theft? Must I be within wifi/bluetooth range of the bicycle?

[@jcrewguy123]

Drooling. Huge leap forward for eMTB's. Can't wait for this bike to be available in the U.S. Curious if the "insanely quiet" motor is as quiet as the current champion the TQ motor in the Trek Fuel exe's?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I think it's just as quiet as the TQ.

[@JorenMathews]

Do you have any info about range? Not a single review on KZbin has mentioned its range compared to competing systems.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Check out our article where I shed some light on the range I was able to get out of a charge!

[@UCmbcOzJtKHxMdL71j19JVDA]

I know you guys are picky on what brands you choose to carry, any word on if you’d become a DJI dealer?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We're in talks with DJI about carrying them!

[@metalTriumph]

How does the sizing feel? Because they arent released yet - could you provide some insight to whether the frame size feels smaller/same/larger than similar trail e-bikes? The geo from the Amflow website makes it seem like its runs small.

[@adasda-x3q]

M is good, for 5'7

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I think the sizing is pretty in line with similar bikes. I typically ride a large, and it felt spot on for me.

[@rudyeye]

no size small? seems to be a trend with other brands as well when it comes to e-bikes. thoughts?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Yeah I'm not sure why! It seems like a trend in the industry and not just limited to e-bikes. It could be that there just isn't enough demand for those size small bikes in order to produce the mold for the frame and eventually the bikes, or maybe once they scale a little more with the bikes they will come out with a size small.

[@tracymcmanus550]

Great video. Two questions: Do you know when they might release it in the US? How is this bike for bigger riders?(Im 215)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We were told by DJI early 2025 for the US. As for your second question, hard to say for me personally as I'm about 190lbs... But we have a few riders here over 200+ and they have only had good things to say.

[@MadStrat-wl6lf]

whats the top speed with 12th shift? can be unlocked?

[@samaxel_19]

How long the battery really last?

[@trailpimp6369]

Looks sick dudes. Unfortunately you may not be able to get this in the US for two or three years. I would totally get this thing gut wish it was 180 front and rear so I can launch it on Party Wave at summit. ❤❤❤

[@mtbmike9866]

The Amflow bike brand may take 2+ years to launch in the US. But nobody is stopping Trek/Spesh/SantaCruz from speccing this motor in on a bike they are going to launch very soon.

[@bearjewmtb4827]

You don’t need 180 for party wave. It’s a jump trail haha

[@bearjewmtb4827]

But why 2 years? He just said 2025 in the video didn’t he? That whole ban on dji stuff is over so that’s not a factor.

[@AF-O6]

So…will you be selling them next year????

[@trailpimp6369]

@@bearjewmtb4827 180 to 200 is best for party wave but you can do it with less too.

[@BURSTspeed]

Interesting that they wouldn't just try to sell the motor/battery tech to existing bike brands?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

They are doing that as well! Perhaps they released the bike first as a demonstration of their available technology which would give more brands an incentive to utilize it.

[@BURSTspeed]

@@WorldwideCyclery True! Love the extra tech this bike offers - I have a Yeti 160e and it's hard to think of ever needing more power output, really just rather have longer battery life at this point. Colder days have me at 20-25 miles. Switching between eco/trail/boost. Need a 2nd battery now lol.

[@blackhorsegrind4255]

@@WorldwideCycleryare you allowed to mention which brands they are selling to?

[@Bengy22]

@@WorldwideCyclery Where did you find this, I couldn't find any mention of plans to do this

[@kristian6622]

Imagine if Tesla made a motor for an e-bike 😮

[@pjewk]

Dji with belt drive would be so nice

[@Sjzinn]

I wish I could get a date or get on a list to buy one. If you have any info please share

[@WorldwideCyclery]

If you head to the link in the description you can sign up to their email list and be the first to know when they are coming!

[@igorgetsin3646]

I wonder how much is an idle discharge? A couple of friends own Urtopia which is all proprietary parts. Urtopia also has an app with anti-theft and it discharges significantly overnight or while driving to the trail. In addition, most shops refuse servicing Yamaha powered bikes, I am guessing this will be an issue as well for DJI.

[@tonyyates2012]

One review mentioned a slight flex in the frame, did you guys pick up on that?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Nope! Between a few of us who have ridden it we haven't noticed that.

[@bosrey7807]

How much?

[@rtann]

Love to know the long term reviews on this as from myself and friends who have ebikes have all experienced issues with batteries and motors from the big brands. On my second ebike due to the first was a complete lemon which the MTB media hailed as the next big thing (Trek Fuel EXe).

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Dang that is a bummer to hear about the Fuel EXe. I've heard good things about those! And so far so good with the Avinox on our end. I've been hammering on it and it keeps coming back for more, probably a few hundred miles on it at this point. Time to start riding normal mountain bikes again before I get too lazy.

[@thomashendron4356]

great motor time will tell if it has durability, interesting how it will be insane until the 2026 model year then it may just be mid pack. it's impressive in the video from UK..hope to see you on the trail day on backbone in sycamore.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

See you out there!! Yeah that is a great point as well... we will see how it ages compared to the competition. Although the Shimano motor has been around for a few years now with seemingly very little changes. But with that said... that's par for the course when it comes to Shimano!

[@michaelbyrne1068]

Is there a rattle when coasting downhill

[@stevelevy9744]

Did you poach the KOM for eMTB on Hell Hill with that beast?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

You know it ;)

[@BlakeD-pz6fl]

Cost? Build options?

[@razorree]

yeah, give us a bike with ~170mm travel !! (and of course interchangeable battery positioned quite low - like in Levo)

[@WorldwideCyclery]

It would be awesome to see a long travel bike use this battery and motor system that is for sure.

[@Alphadog265]

Any idea when,where and how much this bike is going to cost?

[@OhTheNormanity]

DJI know how to create buzz for a bike considering all these US sites glowing over it even though its not currently available in the US and will not be for some time.

[@wallyedmonds8199]

This is nice

[@jt_mtb1]

I hope it make it to us soon i want it lol

[@quaaludes7898]

What size battery did your test bike have?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

800wh!

[@TCraigLinz]

Jared, Great vid. Two things I hope for; one, that the Amflow becomes available in the US and two, that this technology pushes other manufacturers to up their game. Thanks for your reporting.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thanks very much! Happy to help :)

[@chris4536]

No mention of the Rocky Mountain Powerplay platform with 108nm all day and 700W peak?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Good call! That's a great platform too.

[@ZippidyMTB]

Would have been better to throw the Rocky Mountain Dyname motor up in the comparison chart instead of 2 Bosch / Shimano's? The Torque would have been closer.

[@nigelhorwood3583]

Several reviews have timed a c30 second climb and this takes about 6 seconds off the Rocky! It's that quick ... 😮

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Yeah good call, that motor is probably the one that's closest in performance to the Avinox motor even though it seems like the bikes with that Rocky motor are on the heavier side.

[@sgtkurry]

I hope you guys becone a dealer for them in the USA. I really want one but cant buy one here.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Same! We are in talks with them about carrying the bikes.

[@sgtkurry]

@ awesome. Looking forward to it.

[@johnnyb8930]

1000 watts? Is this a class 1 e-bike? Probably should talk about that since it affects where it can be ridden.

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

It's still pedal assist only and it has a speed restriction by law. The torque value is what's insane!

[@DanWerner-fg2vu]

I want one..please distribute wwc

[@richardwalker2454]

It the pedal/motor drag, when above assistance speed, more or less than a Bosch motor

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Will have to do a back to back test and get back to you on that one. We're about to test and review the newest Crestline with the latest Bosch motor.

[@anthonynazzal1958]

How is the rear triangle flex? A few other testers have noted that it’s a bit more flexible than other similarly designed frames from other brands in the rear? Is this really something noticeable?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

That's not something we noticed and we've been hammering on it.

[@burkebair]

Sounds like an awesome bike. Unfortunately, the new ebikes coming out are pricing me out of the ebike market being north of 10k.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

They have an entry level model with solid components that's well under 10k! Worth checking out.

[@Axxxmann]

Price?

[@zackweaver1957]

Big E bike guy

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Biiiiig E bike guy.

[@porroco]

Dji listened to consumer, not as shimano or bosch who only listen what the racers feels o need & looks like the racers does not need battery layout in percentage or 10 dash lines

[@damienb007]

I'm surprised you find it so easy to ride. You must not have complicated descents, because two other people who tested this bike admit in their video to having changed the carbon wheels for aluminum, as well as the handlebars and even a spring for the shock absorber, as well as a 38 fork instead of 36. In short, it must have been a bike much too rigid and not at all adapted to an enduro practice. Very good video !

Does anyone have information on the weight difference between the PL Carbon and the PL Carbon Pro (800 Wh)?

[@goldier74]

the difference is 870 grams (19.2kg and 20.1kg)

@@goldier74 Thanks for your reply. I don't believe that the 19,2kg, which is the given weight for the Pro with the 600 Wh battery, is the same weight as the PL Carbon (silver one) with lower quality components and the 800 Wh battery. It most certainly is heavier than the Pro 800Wh. But I wasn't able to find any evidence of that.

[@sl500benz01]

Great review so does this mean since you guys are advertising and reviewing this bike for dji that you will be a dealer for dji you never mentioned if its coming to the united states or how the bike can be purchase , please fill us in on these details you fell short on this topic , thanks

[@WorldwideCyclery]

The bike will be available in the U.S. starting 2025 and we're in talks with DJI about potentially carrying them. Great question!

[@sl500benz01]

@@WorldwideCyclery awesome thank you for the response i will def make the purchase from you guys thanks again

[@ShowMeThePony]

@@WorldwideCycleryIs this speculation or fact? It’s the first I’ve heard this and I’ve been following this bike since it was first unveiled. Actually considered flying to Germany to buy 2-3 of them and bringing them back to the US.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

@@ShowMeThePony This is what we were told by the DJI team.

[@emtbadventure]

And still not available for purchase in US.

[@doncrescas]

Anyone else enjoy mtb as a way of getting away from constantly interacting with connected electronic devices?

[@emir5034]

YES, YES, YEEEEEES finally someone's saying it!!! Definitely my case. I say it loud and proud: FUCK E-BIKES

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Actually I do 😊 but why not both?

[@dominicabbott991]

Boom. LIke. Great.

[@porroco]

My question is, when can i buy it in the USA.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Should be early 2025!

[@porroco]

@@WorldwideCyclery i own a yeti 160e & they have been lazy on launching a new ebike on the market, so prob this going to be my next ebike

[@bearjewmtb4827]

This bike does seem sick, and I do want one haha BUT. a bike very similar to this exists in the US market already. Giant trance x adv elite. I know I know it’s a giant. But, full powered 85nm and mine, not build as a weight weenie bike, is sub 45lbs. Only a 400wh battery but a 250wh range extender that only weighs a pound. All the connectivity stuff is great but to me is unnecessary. Would still be nice to have that 800wh though at under 45lbs.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

It's definitely an impressive package. And I thought the same at first about all the tech... but some of the features are definitely handy once you've been riding the bike for a while and familiarizing yourself with the tech.

[@jester6578]

If it's not yet available in the US, how do you have this bike to test? Was it sent for review? Did DJI sponsor the video? This feels like a video where a disclaimer is required for transparency (if not also legally).

[@chuckbechara7472]

are you going to sell it?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We hope to! We're in talks with DJI about carrying them.

[@chuckbechara7472]

Good I am in !

[@nick_john]

If DJI was making their own motor, I wonder why they didn’t just go all the way and make it with an integrated gearbox. And a belt drive.

[@rock_machine01]

I’m not sure about the top tube suspension connect point. It looks weak. And the geometry of the frame remind me of a 1999 Santa Cruz heckler.

[@dallasdrew2390]

It's the same as a Levo SL and that works just fine.

[@demo8mate]

@@dallasdrew2390 The thing I don't get is why they went trunnion when they had room not to.

[@xtrainerchronicles2085]

I'm not sure if the value of seeing a bike made of unobtainium. Meaning it can't be purchased in the USA. Lucky for you to get to ride it.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We were told by DJI early 2025 for US distribution. It's certainly been a pleasure to ride - I've been riding it too much and now I'm getting lazy.

[@fud1376]

If I had the Money,that'll be the Only e-bike id buy....Ha!!

[@flyingfox8586]

As long as it can't be derestricted, it is the slowest e-mtb on the market.

[@WilliamBrockali]

sick bunnyhop into sycamore

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Thanks ;)

[@AdventureRich]

Jeez I wish I could justify the cost of this. I want it so bad! Plus, it's not available in the US yet and I'm seeing tonnes of people unboxing it in European countries. What's up with that?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

They are rolling them out to several European countries prior to distributing in the US. Definitely makes us have a little bit of FOMO!

[@VadikRamm]

In order for this e-bike to be compliant with existing classifications, DJI would need to lock the maximum power output to 750 Watts. The power of its drive system is what disqualifies the bike from being assigned any class. Given that National Forest is sloooowly adopting Class 1, DJI might want to target this classifications. With the National Forest holding the majority of single track trails, it's going to be hard for DJI to sell this product in the US as an unclassified conveyance.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I don't think it would be too much of a challenge for them to limit the max power output with a little software update and make it compliant. With that said, it seems like the whole situation is evolving when it comes to the legislation and who knows what will happen next.

[@romero424]

When the MGU is availablewith appealable cost then its time to upgrade

[@김지훈-r8o4v]

자막으로 설명해주니 이해가 쉽네요

[@juanotb1103]

i wish e-bikes would move towards gearboxes

[@MyThinkin]

No small size, so not for me😢

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Maybe eventually 😢

[@Styxxmixx]

Any legal reason why you couldn’t buy in Germany, then at the airport get the 19% VAT refund and bring back to the US?

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I aint a lawyer but that might be a question for a shop in Germany to answer. I'm sure it could be done if you are resourceful and patient enough ;)

[@NoOneIsGoingToSaveYou]

$10,000 easy

[@wallyedmonds8199]

The BIG QUESTION , how much for the quietest E-bike 🥹 and most powerful .

Have a look at the SATURN 16 MGU, it should be even more quiet than DJI Avinox system. Full power but heavy af PL Carbon 6.5k, PL Carbon Pro 600Wh 9.8k, PL Carbon Pro 800Wh 10k - EUR prices Germany with 19% VAT

[@MYMOUNTAIN_122]

Have heard from a few testers now that the frame has a fair bit of flex which isnt great, perhaps DJI could also offer the motor battery combo to mainstream brands and have the best of both, who knows one day it could be as easy as picking a frame, motor battery combo, and suspension, etc.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

I think DJI's plan is to offer the motor and battery tech to other manufacturers and have that be the main focus of their ebike business as opposed to continue producing their own models, but time will tell!

[@siriosstar4789]

Waay overhyped ! carbon can begin to crack internally with no warning of a future failure . The battery is not easily removable which is a deal breaker for the majority of commenters on YT . The touch screen has been reviewed ,:mentioning that the screen does not always respond , it's hard to see in full sunlight and staring down at a touch screen while riding can be very dangerous . The torque rating of 120 Nm is only available for 30 seconds due to possible overheating which was admitted by the manufacturer . compare that to the TQ which has 120 NM and no ober heating or the Sachs /BMZ 112 nm which is available at extremely low cadence , from 140 to 160 RPMs and NO overheating . The stats of these motors is NEVER mentioned when DJI makes their claim that their bike is the most powerfully bike on the market . that's a lie ! also no real worl long term testing by RIDERS ,so we don't know about reliability , warranty claims , parts availability and service .,

[@simony2801]

Probably too much power for the drivetrain and lighter weight frame, it really needs the pinion mgu to come alive.

[@FrankWalsh]

Yeah, but is it insane? 🙃

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Truly ;)

[@skellener]

US govt is still at odds with DJI. I wouldn't expect this bike here in the US any time soon. Still a really cool bike though. Hopefully they arrive at a solution with DJI.

[@bearjewmtb4827]

Not true. That whole situation is over.

[@lawrencemonaghan]

Well trek and specialised wan5 to sell you two bikes it was always going to happen

[@bfranco1519]

Not available in the US so kinda pointless.

[@kr38tve]

It's crazy how much promotion thus bike has got and it's not even available 😕 AND it won't be available in the USA either....

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We were told by DJI early 2025 for US distribution.

[@kr38tve]

@WorldwideCyclery nice! Looking forward to it.

[@TheBRad704]

8:48 unlike failed Preparations A thru G... Preparation H DOES feel good... on the hole...

[@danielpatino81]

I dont understand why someone would get sooo excited about more power on an ebike, i dont remember the last time I used the turbo mode on my trek, the bosch is not as “strong” as the DJI and even like that in turbo the bike wants to wheely when you pedal too hard.

[@WorldwideCyclery]

You've never looked at the top of a climb and wanted to get there quicker? ;)

[@danielpatino81]

@ I dont think making to the top 7 seconds faster would change my life!! 😂😂

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@@danielpatino81 Testers were saying they were beating full power emtbs by over a min on a 3 min climb lol. That's with using the boost mode though. The thing is the torque and climbing insanely steep stuff. Sure it will go faster on fire roads but check out loam wolfs review that dropped today. 30% grade climbs..

[@danielpatino81]

@ again, a minute faster or slower won’t make my life any different, im pretty sure any person would agree that reliability is number one, thats why I only buy bosch no questions asked, and thats also why 90% of the new bike being released lately are equipped with Bosch power unit, DJI sounds great, however, until the reliability number are no settle I dont think there is a reason to pay that amount of money to be some else guinea pig!!! Just saying.

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

@@danielpatino81 And that is your option. No doubt. DJI is one of the best electric motor companies in the world though.. There is a reason they came on to the scene with something better than everyone else on day one.. I'd say logistics is more of a reason not to buy than reliability (at least when we are talking about these companies).. To each their own though. I'm sure in the coming years you'll have your answer!

[@Music-pp4yz]

Chinese bike good now

[@weaponofchoice8942]

Why r u hyping a bike I can’t buy? That sucks

[@Rad_MTB_Rage]

Ya and how much 😂😂😂

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

Everything you could ever desire except derestriction for commuting....

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Perhaps that could be done as well ;)

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

@@WorldwideCyclery I hope so :)

[@lilblaster22]

Why talk about a bike that you can't get for your customers🤔

[@WorldwideCyclery]

We're in talks with DJI about carrying them!

[@lilblaster22]

@WorldwideCyclery DJI is no fan of the U.S. for its ridiculous banning of flying drones. The U.S. market is the lowest priority on DJI's distribution list. Good luck!

[@felixduprey]

The bike dosen't friking exists....its a unicorn 🦄...lots of people talking about it for the last 4 months + but no one had seen one anywhere available to buy...

[@VoodooT6]

oops I had the chance to ride it in Germany. It’s real.

[@PeteMac69]

I can order 1 today in Australia👍

[@shaneycarter8803]

Got one on order in the UK, deposit paid. Eta anytime before Christmas 😊

[@jaredmathews2983]

I don’t know how you can do any meaningful comparison of this bike to other bikes without taking into consideration the cost of each bike. If it costs $25,000, I don’t care how quiet or powerful the motor is or how much it weighs. Additionally, there are other important considerations like how easy is it to get replacement parts or get the bike worked on.

[@thim8009]

One big con, who fixes that thing when it breaks? I really don't want to drive 16 hours to get an update.

[@ssjj9584]

Just put pegs on it already and hack it with a throttle. Especially with this power. The “new” mountain biker doesn’t want dirt under his nails 💅 😂

[@WorldwideCyclery]

Pegs? Freakin sweet.

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

Buy American

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

If we can make something as good.. I would. I already buy Santa Cruz...