The Genius Boxer Ray Robinson Avoided | Charley Burley Breakdown

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@SOLE_II_SOUL
@SOLE_II_SOUL 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad Burley is getting his due for the modern fans who may not know him. The whole Black Murderers row were feared.
@dominicbravo6794
@dominicbravo6794 5 ай бұрын
As a ex amateur boxer, never heard of him! Absolutely brilliant! Saw his style straight away....thank you.
@AxleTrade
@AxleTrade 3 ай бұрын
Burley is arguably the most underrated legend because of how much of an anomaly he was in that era. The legend of him partying and showing up to fight Archie Moore hungover is always a great story.
@dublion7
@dublion7 5 ай бұрын
I love his fighting style. Could watch him fight for hours and never get tired.
@LegendaryBIGDaddy
@LegendaryBIGDaddy 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite fighters of all time. Yesterday I watched his fight. Great analysis as always. I would like to know more about the styles of Ezzard Charles, Henry Armstrong, Archie Moore, Ray Robinson and James Toney
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated! Yes would love to do something for all of them too!
@Markzuckfuckerburg
@Markzuckfuckerburg 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLifeWould love some on winkey wright, Salvador Sanchez, Willy pep, Paul Williams, William zepeda.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Henry Armstrong the one guy without a size advantage that I think could beat Floyd. He’d get inside fights without needing to push them to the ropes
@domagoj4843
@domagoj4843 6 ай бұрын
Boxing Legends tv. here on YT...
@HaraDuran
@HaraDuran 5 ай бұрын
Ezzard Charles style is simple,you either get popped walking into punches or counter them real good
@btwentwo
@btwentwo 6 ай бұрын
Charles Farrell writes extensively about what he calls the "black code of fighting" in his book, and cites Burley and the West Coast Murderers' Row as prime examples. Men who had to fight all the time, trained together, and created over the generations a style that could withstand the damage that a relentless schedule inflicts. I highly recommend his book "(Low)life"-he's a thoughtful guy and a good writer with a lot of stories. Relevant excerpt: "between them, Charley Burley, Eddie Booker, Holman Williams, Henry Hank, Holly Mims, Ralph "Tiger" Jones, and George Benton fought 735 times. Collectively they suffered eight kayo losses. Keep in mind that, during the eras in which they fought, if a bout was stopped as the result of a cut caused by a head butt, the damaged fighter still lost by TKO. Using today's boxing rules, those eight kayo losses would have been cut in half. Further keep in mind that these fighters all spent their careers taking on monsters (including often having to fight each other), but that none of them was a world champ. None ever even fought for a title." Seeing the way the "black code," if we accept his term, flows into boxers like Mayweather and particularly James Toney, makes for a rewarding way to see boxing styles play out over history.
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Really intresting and thanks for sharing this. There is channel called TheUmmahFightCamp and he does great video on the origins of this style. In terms of that a lot of black blue collar workers at the time of the 1920s-30s also helped develop this style as they didn't have the same amount of time to train in the gym compared to pros. So, therefore, developed a style for sparring so they could defend themselves on the ropes when they where tired. I guess Burley combined elements of this within his, but with more defensive footwork.
@elel2608
@elel2608 6 ай бұрын
This is why I rate Ezzard Charles as maybe a top 5-7 GOAT. Dude fought EVERYBODY, including Charley Burley.
@HaraDuran
@HaraDuran 5 ай бұрын
I give him 1# p4p,just with 2 years of experience he managed to literally UD an experienced Charley Burley.
@elel2608
@elel2608 4 ай бұрын
@@HaraDuran Robinson, Armstrong, Langford, Pacquiao, Charles, Greb, Ali. Not exactly in that order.
@AxleTrade
@AxleTrade 3 ай бұрын
@@elel2608 Great list. 👍
@DJK-cq2uy
@DJK-cq2uy Ай бұрын
Wth asked??😂
@DJK-cq2uy
@DJK-cq2uy Ай бұрын
​@@HaraDuranfat deal😂😂
@reece417
@reece417 6 ай бұрын
Please give us a Salvador Sanchez and Julio Caesar Chavez Sr. film study
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
I will!
@reece417
@reece417 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLife Thank you
@timhughes3684
@timhughes3684 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLifeSal Sanchez please!
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Sal deserves it. Super unique style
@SamuelJohnYoungIII
@SamuelJohnYoungIII 6 ай бұрын
Canelo Alvarez was an Overrated PED Junkie and should not be used as a Great Boxer example!!!
@blackjaguarlord
@blackjaguarlord 6 ай бұрын
This is the best documentary I've ever seen on Burley; KUDOS!
@patrickbrowne4606
@patrickbrowne4606 6 ай бұрын
One of the things that impresses me the most about the great Charles Butley was the time back in 1942 when he fought the great Ezzard Charles, Holman Williams (a tremendous fighter) and then Ezzard Charles AGAIN within a period of about one month. Today’s fighters barely fight three times a YEAR let alone a month. That’s just one example of how radically different boxing is now compared to back in the day. I really wish there was more footage of Burley available, especially his fights against Charles, Moore, and other fighters closer to his size..this fight against Smith is against a guy who’s a natural light heavyweight, and he’s several inches taller and several pounds heavier than Burley. I’d LOVE to see one of his fights against Fritzie Zivic, who was a welterweight and around the same size. But the man was so avoided he HAD to fight middleweights, light heavyweights, and even HEAVYWEIGHTS at times! HE was TRULY an uncrowned champion!
@devilface97
@devilface97 6 ай бұрын
Zivic had his people buy burleys contract to make sure he didnt have to fight him again
@patrickbrowne4606
@patrickbrowne4606 6 ай бұрын
@@devilface97 I read about that! This really shows that Burley was the REAL champion..not only had he beaten Zivic in two of their three fights, the managers of Fritzie were so afraid of Burley that they bought his contract! Zivic had them make SURE that he wasn’t going to fight him again!
@HaraDuran
@HaraDuran 5 ай бұрын
He really got that sandwich schedule,crazy.
@DJK-cq2uy
@DJK-cq2uy Ай бұрын
Good grief..Poindexter Pontificator
@RajSingh-lr7lj
@RajSingh-lr7lj 6 ай бұрын
Great video! You did him absolute justice with this video, I really appreciate you giving these old school legends the respect they deserve. What a sad world we live in, where great boxers sometimes get overlooked because they have quiet personalities or just dont like to boast all that much.
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Raj! Yeah I hope overtime this video helps raise awareness of Burley!
@robscorner1257
@robscorner1257 5 ай бұрын
Good to see Charlie Burley get some recognition. He was a guy that a LOT of the guys in his era avoided. They knew him & greatly respected him. They just didn't want to risk fighting him. Had he had better management, things might have turned out different for Burley. He would have been a star in this day & age.
@ethankim85
@ethankim85 6 ай бұрын
Ezzard Charles beating Burley twice in the latter's prime at only 20 years old has to be one of the greatest achievements in boxing history.
@devilface97
@devilface97 6 ай бұрын
It was good win for charles, but charles was naturally bigger and already had a fair amount of experience by then. Burley was injured badly in sparring a few days before the first fight, and accepted the rematch the same week he fought another hall of famer. It was a good win for young ezzard, but burley was at his best fighting other welterweights
@ethankim85
@ethankim85 6 ай бұрын
@@devilface97 The injury point was fair but I would like to point out that Charles was only two years into the game at that point and had yet to reach his prime. Case in point, he later lost to Marshall and Bivons who he would absolutely crush in subsequent rematches. Charles prime was not until 1946 while Burley was six years into his career, on a twenty fight win streak and clearly in the peak of his career.
@devilface97
@devilface97 6 ай бұрын
@@ethankim85 you make a great point. Wish we had those fights on film, the first fight especially was a good one from the write up.
@xGhostRidah
@xGhostRidah 6 ай бұрын
That goes to show you that Ray Robinson would beat Charley. Especially if the money was righ.
@crazyhorse3854
@crazyhorse3854 6 ай бұрын
​@@devilface97still got beat.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Inside slip spear jab. Black-Americans tend to be exceptionally good at head movement. Rhythm results in this upper body fluidity
@GaudiGz
@GaudiGz Күн бұрын
his mother was irish tho
@brucelang1201
@brucelang1201 5 ай бұрын
I'm so pleased these guys are getting their due respect.Ive never heard of this guy but if he beat guys like Archie Moore that says a lot.
@adriannavares
@adriannavares 6 ай бұрын
another great video man you should do another video on another boxing legend Salvador Sanchez. Charlie Burley vs SRR, and Sal Sanchez vs JCC thw two best fights in boxing that we could have had but unfortunately those didn't happen
@wsmith580
@wsmith580 3 ай бұрын
Sam Langford and Charley Burley should get a posthumous championship belt since they were denied and avoided.
@gesto70
@gesto70 6 ай бұрын
Wow! What a great video and analysis. Very good. While others seem to follow trends you are out in front.
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Gesto! Hopefully raises more awareness of these guys!
@daeviontaylor
@daeviontaylor 6 ай бұрын
Give us a video on Mr untouchable Niccolino Locche
@statsandfactsboxing
@statsandfactsboxing 6 ай бұрын
hey @boxing life. Thank you for the great uploads , keep it up.
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, my man! Truly appreciated!
@conwaytwitty8634
@conwaytwitty8634 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I always wanted to learn more about Burley and this is the definitive resource. I never knew Robinson ducked him! What an era that was for boxing! Thanks for the fight analysis too. Brilliant.
@kai1600stiles
@kai1600stiles Ай бұрын
Burley and Robinson are fighters I love to watch and both are my favorites glad he’s getting the credit where credit is due
@glynhannaford7332
@glynhannaford7332 5 ай бұрын
That was an excellent video. 👏 At 65 I'm wondering why I have not heard of Burley before today. 🙈
@wesallstar9273
@wesallstar9273 5 ай бұрын
Look up murders row! There is a group of fighters you will find
@koreymatthews7137
@koreymatthews7137 6 ай бұрын
The roll from 17:20-17:28 is beautiful
@easyrawlins2392
@easyrawlins2392 6 ай бұрын
Very good video. It displays why I love boxing so much. The technique the warrior mentality the tough training. Boxing is a great sport. I love how you really researched too make this video. What a gem of a video. Thank you
@statsandfactsboxing
@statsandfactsboxing 6 ай бұрын
I studied his fight against Oakland Billy in 0.5 if you want to go through them go ahead Charley Burley vs Oakland Billy 1. Round - Charley is Constantly moving in circles when hes not punching - He is also more on the backfoot and Jabs AND FEINTS alot . He would move backwards after Jabbing against the taller opponent (drawing him into his counter ) - He is really instantly pro actively moving back after jabbing to see how Billy responds - he would use alot of headmovement slipping to the in- and outside so his opponent would get used to the movement and he can up - jab ( his best punch ) unpredictable. Sometimes just slip to the inside , sometimes slip upjab - Burley would slip / bend to the outisde over his rear leg! after the upjab 2. Round - charley would again use his jab followed by defensive footwork ( moving back pro actively ) - He would use his traditional tap jab ( maybe to trigger his opponents jab ) to then slip to the inside and throw a lead uppercut to the body , using headmovment to slip to the outside over his rear leg right after - burley keeps being VERY defensively responsible after the jab hes really expecting something to come back at him - Best Detail in Round 2 : he starts throwing a jab instantly moving backwards . right after he would feint the jab but not move backwards but slip to the inside and throw the lead uppercut to the body, then slip to the outside and move out of range behind the shoulder 3. Round - Burley would keep Billy turning at the beginning using jabs or feints when hes not circling - Even tho he is the smaller man , he is GREATLY defensively responsible and on the backfoot aswell - When he is usually moving backwards after the jab , HE MAKES HIS OPPONENT STEP TOWARDS HIM then switches his shoulder trajectory to throw a lead bodyshot . He pulls his opponent into his counter, - Burley is really aggressive to land his inside slip upjab and turns it into a gazelle punch. He pivots out to the lead side or uses headmovment to slip over his rear side right after - burley is fishing with the jab , i dont know what counter he is looking for , and he is greatly defensively responsible fishing with the jab always ready to move out of range 4. Round - burley starts the fight by turning and feinting when planted, sees Billy doesnt respond to a tap jab so then he shoots a lead uppercut after a tap jab and ends up in the clinch - burley keeps using jabs from different angles and his great upjab with footwork, he really is very defensively responsible when jabbing - when both fighters stand toe to toe burley effortlessly smothers billys overhand right - ( check round 3 notes ) he would also pull his opponent into his right cross , jab - move back , move back in against the aggressive billy with a right cross ) - after burley would move out of range when jabbing being very defensively responsible he would close the gap again using his lead upjab , it looks like a gazelle punch , it is infact 5. Round - burley tries to time his overhand over billys jab right away - When his opponent had his face well protected when burley moves in using jabs , he would instead throw a wild right cross that looks like an overhand to the body so jabs with footwork moving forward into a wild rear hook to the body - ive seen Burley trying to land a big overhand after finding the range with a tap jab 3 times this round already - burley really loves to land his upjab, he would step up and over while changing shoulder trajectory sometimes to get an angle sometimes he doesnt step when changing shoulder trajectory - it seems like burley is really trying to land that overhand - when Burley slips to the inside he can always weave the opponents lead hook with footwork angling to the right then shooting the rear cross lead hook
@DJK-cq2uy
@DJK-cq2uy Ай бұрын
Good grief😂😂 🤡
@HaraDuran
@HaraDuran Ай бұрын
@@statsandfactsboxing boy that troll reply helped me to see this Ty
@rogershaw421
@rogershaw421 5 ай бұрын
This was a great documentary about a great fighter,great man, Charley Burley💯 Thank you.
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 13 күн бұрын
Why are you showing a photo of Jack Dempsey squaring off with Burley or a look -a-like....this story is exaggerated ...a lie.
@fisterklister
@fisterklister 4 ай бұрын
His legend grows and grows. I've become a fan.
@danieldijmarescu5291
@danieldijmarescu5291 6 ай бұрын
Amazing work again, Jamie! It's much appreciated how deep you dig!
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure Daniel! Thank you!
@hazzyhugh8729
@hazzyhugh8729 6 ай бұрын
He was very smart..always protecting his chin during the clinch.
@RingJando
@RingJando 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant coverage! Cheers!
@hemadayal7815
@hemadayal7815 3 ай бұрын
Ezzard Charles...Most Underrated Heavyweight World Champion . He was very great...
@godfirst2072
@godfirst2072 6 ай бұрын
Great documentary. Thank you for sharing.
@abudujana13
@abudujana13 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video!! Thanks for the video, BOXING LIFE
@Gakkad
@Gakkad 6 ай бұрын
Any chance you can get amateur spars or fights from around the uk??
@billystone8204
@billystone8204 6 ай бұрын
Before even seeing what will be on display I know the video will be great besides Sam Langford do you think Benton or burley are best fighters to never win world title 🥊life4life
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
It's hard to say Billy! Going off what past opponents say, you have to probably say between Burley and Langford. Benton didn't get the opportunities either, but his era maybe slightly weaker.
@sakutarousama290
@sakutarousama290 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLifeHolman Williams and Cocoa Kid could go there as well
@billystone8204
@billystone8204 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLife amazing video and I never knew he refused to go the Olympic Games due to it being in Germany Jamie 🫡🥊life4life💯🔥
@martinmulligan8451
@martinmulligan8451 6 ай бұрын
Always love a Jamie breakdown ❤
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Always appreciated Martin! 👊
@teofemo7000
@teofemo7000 4 ай бұрын
Not fair to Robinson. There was no $ In a fight with Burley. Neither was a champion at the time. It was the middleweight who never gave him a shot. Zale, Graziano even LaMotta who feared no one never fought Burley.
@marksimmo8626
@marksimmo8626 6 ай бұрын
Great up load iv never heard of burley what a great fighter so true he had championship quality
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark! He was some fighter!
@kmyattjr
@kmyattjr 6 ай бұрын
Great video as always man!
@MM-Red
@MM-Red 6 ай бұрын
Can you please give us a film study of Genaro "Chicanito" Hernandez and Alejandro "Cobrita" Gonzalez. My 2 favorite fighters from the early 90s
@xGhostRidah
@xGhostRidah 6 ай бұрын
You want to know how Charley fought in his prime? My grandfather told me, what we saw in a prime Roy Jones, that's how he fought. He also said Charley would've been too big for Ray because he was a natural middleweight weight but, he did say he would give Ray Robinson the edge because of his footwork and speed. Btw, he saw Ray Robinson fights between 1942-44 in New York. He only saw 3 of Charley fights in his prime.
@christophercox936
@christophercox936 3 ай бұрын
Great fighter but he’s not beating Sugar Ray Robinson. All these documentaries about black fighters not faced. Just like everybody said Jack Johnson ducked Sam Langford but in reality Johnson fought and beat him. Probably the same thing will come out with Burly.
@SimplyThatGuy12
@SimplyThatGuy12 Ай бұрын
that’s before Johnson won the title. Then he ducked Langford when Langford was repeatedly trying to get a fight with him. but I still think Robinson beats Burley.
@endlessfeast
@endlessfeast 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic film study
@gentkamberi8533
@gentkamberi8533 6 ай бұрын
Burly looked like a gentleman too ! 🙏⭐️
@RichardNogan
@RichardNogan 6 ай бұрын
He reminds me of Wilfredo Benitez. Interesting life story, tku for post.
@JesseLopez-w1c
@JesseLopez-w1c 6 ай бұрын
What dimension is this? First time I've heard his name. Love it man
@tbreezo6293
@tbreezo6293 6 ай бұрын
Do a video on Puello
@gleasonsgym
@gleasonsgym 6 ай бұрын
one of the legends.
@VICTORYBOXING-fu5qy
@VICTORYBOXING-fu5qy 5 ай бұрын
Love the step back, Whitaker had the same step back from a southpaw stance
@FayzBoxing
@FayzBoxing 6 ай бұрын
Great video on the almost mythical Burley 🥊
@genghiskhan1836
@genghiskhan1836 5 ай бұрын
His front foot position was key, like mayweather he closed off the front foot in defensive posture and opened it up pointed towards opponent right before the attack. The shovel jab with mid section rotation had major leverage. If u can’t pick up the low jab on the radar and cannot stop the tricky lead right power shots, you’re in for a long frustrating painful night. 😊
@lilcaramell
@lilcaramell 6 ай бұрын
ray didn’t avoid him he just wasn’t consistent enough to land a shot at him his tactics would of frustrated ray but ray would of won in the end
@garrettohyeah7365
@garrettohyeah7365 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video
@AlienPsyTing1
@AlienPsyTing1 6 ай бұрын
So sad there is so little footage of him, much like hardly any footage of SRR as a welterweight - great docu though - well done Boxing Life
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
I know gutted there is not more! There is always rumours that some people are sitting on the footage keeping for themselves. Appreciate the kind words man!
@AlienPsyTing1
@AlienPsyTing1 6 ай бұрын
@@BoxingLife I would imagine but might be wrong but if Jim Jacobs doesn’t have it then probably a few people have
@bentejallow5272
@bentejallow5272 6 ай бұрын
his stance reminds me a bit of Gervonta Davis/Abdul Wahid his stance
@Lucas777-s6t
@Lucas777-s6t 4 ай бұрын
Same thing happened to Archie Moore at Light heavyweight, not getting a title shot when he should have. Good thing multiple major world titles were created after the WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, so now deserving contenders get there shot., Except if you have an undisputed champion like Canelo, who ducked his mandatory Benavidez, which the WBC allowed Canelo to do.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Joe Ganz who was also well ahead of the timez
@devilface97
@devilface97 6 ай бұрын
John henry lewis was a big inspiration on burley and he fought like a big joe gans
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Giving Archie Moore a boxing lesson is a feat in and of itself. Moore became THE professor of boxing. Burley-Moore was a higher ring iq version of Floyd-Marquez
@drummersagainstitk
@drummersagainstitk 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your work. It is important. The edits and production are tremendous. I'm a fight historian and know Eddie Futch called him the best etc. However IMO! Charley wouldn't have lasted very long against several modern MW. Ex. Mouzon and GGG would make quick work of him based on the film bec he telegraphed many of his shots IMO!!!!. Fighters in those days stuck to what worked with little variance. He was boring to watch for a modern fan today. STILL he was great, no question.
@PR4U2NV
@PR4U2NV 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how much we can really learn about a fighter's ability and/or disability from watching one fight? I'm not saying you're wrong as I, too, know how well of a fighter he was. Just wish to have been able to see more footage of his fights. Burley was definitely ahead of many.
@surrealistidealist
@surrealistidealist 6 ай бұрын
Ezzard Charles was avoided a lot, too. He even beat Charley Burley twice!
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Bivol the best today at countering a jab with your own jabs. He uses a parry jab or catch & shoot. Fights become much easier when you throw the opponent’s jab out the window. Most won’t be able to get anything going
@RichardFlores2K
@RichardFlores2K 3 ай бұрын
Can you talk about that fearsome pro boxing group?
@MarleneWalker-su8ku
@MarleneWalker-su8ku 6 ай бұрын
Turns down a golden opportunity in the middle of a depression on absolutely correct moral grounds regarding Germany at that time .That makes him a hero in my eyes.Acut above a lot of the empty virtue signalling in this day and age , which is usually wide of the mark and done to enhance personal profile and financial success.
@Just_a_Reflection
@Just_a_Reflection 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. The Leader of Murderers Row🥊!
@zaedaone
@zaedaone 6 ай бұрын
Coming from someone in this gen his style really reminds of like a primal ancestor of shakurs style
@romspring1050
@romspring1050 5 ай бұрын
Burley was nice .. I appreciate
@romanboxing3959
@romanboxing3959 6 ай бұрын
An underrated fighter named Jimmy Leto beat Burley. You should find out about Leto. He fought everyone
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Burley feints is his most impressive offensive asset imo. Smith no longer knew what was coming and had trouble defending
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE
@THEINFINITEBLACKDYNAMITE 5 ай бұрын
Sugar Ray Robinson & his team also said no to fighting George Benton.
@mr.boxingmoves486
@mr.boxingmoves486 6 ай бұрын
Great great video sir 👏👏👏👏 But I have a question 🤔 If you had to come up with a black murderous row of the 21st century who would be your top 5📝🤔
@evnstvn58
@evnstvn58 4 ай бұрын
The powers that be at the time, could have made that fight happen between those two great men! For whatever reason (maybe for refusing to be on the 1936 OlympicTeam...you never know!) It didn't happen. It's not Robinsons fault it didn't happen! Really Sorry for Charley tho.😔
@MichaelMooreMoore-u1k
@MichaelMooreMoore-u1k 6 ай бұрын
James "the mule killer" Bell heavy weight boxer out of Pittsburgh was forced by the mob to take a dive told me he sparred with Black Dynamite and told me Charlie hit harder than anyone heavy weights included
@marquismorris1548
@marquismorris1548 Ай бұрын
All time greats avoided him for good reason! Superskilled and deceptively powerful . That left to the body is gruesome. ! Fighters from that era fought frequently. A loss wasn't the end of the world.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Bivol a modern master at using his feet to make them miss by inches
@Los21x
@Los21x 6 ай бұрын
When he got backed up in the corner he was rolling the shoulders than he shifted out
@toddsamways7390
@toddsamways7390 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video 🫡
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Todd!
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
“His pure boxing style wasn’t appreciated as well.” Burley would counter and drop the punch count of opponents like Floyd
@israeloagiledintlhe4166
@israeloagiledintlhe4166 6 ай бұрын
It makes sense why Robinson would avoid him , cause a counter puncher beats a boxer 9 times out of 10, the most recent example was Crawford's destruction of Spence, cause once his jab was taken away , he was a sitting duck, and this guy is the true definition of P4P, which is, can your skills translate in other weight classes other than your own🤷🏾‍♂️ ....
@TylerHingleton
@TylerHingleton 5 ай бұрын
SRR also had great counter-punching ability, but Burley may have had him slightly beaten in that department, as one of the reasons why he didn't wanna fight him. Charley could also fight either off the front or back-foot just like him too, and was also a tad bigger and hit harder as well. Spence doesn't possess the boxing ability like neither Ray nor Charley does, so it's a false equivalency.
@israeloagiledintlhe4166
@israeloagiledintlhe4166 5 ай бұрын
@@TylerHingleton "False equivalency" How, cause Spence is a "boxer" , his offense is initiated by a jab🤷🏾‍♂️ ? I'm looking at styles whether or not you think a Spence or a Crawford is on the level of a Ray Robinson is irrelevant 🤷🏾‍♂️ ...
@TylerHingleton
@TylerHingleton 5 ай бұрын
@@israeloagiledintlhe4166 Spence can't initiate any type of offense without working behind the jab is my point, and Crawford always knew that. Spence is a come-forward break-you-down type and relies on sheer volume. SRR was way more versatile, just like Burley was, but the latter had more size, length and power compared to Ray. Plus, they're more fleet-footed, including Crawford, which we can't say the same for Spence
@israeloagiledintlhe4166
@israeloagiledintlhe4166 5 ай бұрын
@@TylerHingleton But as much of a pressure fighter Spence is, he outboxed Mikey Garcia on the back foot🤷🏾‍♂️ , so he can do that if he wants to🤷🏾‍♂️ , just that his strategy against Crawford was to "break his will" WTF, could've just kept the guy at the end of his jab and let him initiate🤷🏾‍♂️
@TylerHingleton
@TylerHingleton 5 ай бұрын
@@israeloagiledintlhe4166 Him out-boxing Mikey Garcia, who is a LW, isn't an accomplishment. He struggled fighting on the back-foot, when he was going toe-to-toe with Shawn Porter and barely edged him in that fight. Errol can't fight off the back-foot like Robinson, Burley, Ali, Leonard, Mayweather, Crawford etc
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 13 күн бұрын
I think it may be more likely that Burley wanted no part of Ray Robinson. Burley undoubtedly was a great boxer, but to say he had massive power is an overstatement. He did not have great knockout power.
@BoxingLife
@BoxingLife 13 күн бұрын
He wasn’t even a middleweight and he knocked out a heavyweight? Clearly he had massive power. He was always fighting bigger guys for the most part. Hence why he probably doesn’t have as many KOs, he had to rely on his boxing ability. Robinson has been quoted twice saying he wanted no part. I think at the time it was more a financial thing as there was really no money in the fight. Robinson wanted the pay days and that fight was always a massive risk for him to take.
@williamcavanagh8982
@williamcavanagh8982 13 күн бұрын
@BoxingLife as you call yourself, must surley consider yourself a student of the sport. If that is true, you must also be aware that during the Era of Burley many, many matches were fought between hw, lhw and middleweight boxers. This was not a rarity. Also, heavyweight boxers for the most at That time hardy exceeded 180lbs. Of course, there were exceptions. Even the great Joe Louis was barely 200 lbs. Turner, as you mentioned, was probably the punching bag of the day and lost many fights, something like Jerry Quarry or George Chuvalo had been....including 8 of his last 10. In-so-far as Ray Robinson being quoted twice, I would have to see a video film of that to believe it. I do not work with hearsay ... I would have to see and hear it for myself .... reading a line or two and quoting Ray isn't good enough in today's world or back then either. There are way too many stories containing bad info, sensationalizing and just plain old-fashioned lies. I appreciate your interest in boxing and your mail keep up the good work.
@mktf5582
@mktf5582 6 ай бұрын
please do Len Johnson = black british fighter.
@robgrant5272
@robgrant5272 6 ай бұрын
Just because Ray avoided him doesn’t mean burley would have beaten him
@mofozi
@mofozi 6 ай бұрын
No it definitely doesn't but it does put him at an elite level to be avoided by the accepted pound for pound
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Alvarez has a wide right to the body. Almost like a hook. Burley and Ray Robinson would throw it like an overhand
@TFB97
@TFB97 6 ай бұрын
Great video, but why does everyone say Burley was black? His mum was white so he was mixed race.
@DankDope
@DankDope 6 ай бұрын
Probably just by his appearance, doesn't look white
@antoniomosley9410
@antoniomosley9410 6 ай бұрын
Good point
@Robertoduran1106
@Robertoduran1106 6 ай бұрын
If you have a black grandparent you’re regarded as black in America in general
@tyrismaxey
@tyrismaxey 6 ай бұрын
Why do ppl try this. 1 drop off black blood was the slave masters rule and the nation's law. That mixed stuff is PC now, not in the 1950's America. He's Black.
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Boxes with a black American style. And during those segregated timez America was quite racist: one drop rule. Meaning a quarter black person still would be considered black rather than white
@evnstvn58
@evnstvn58 10 күн бұрын
Once I read about Charlie Burley, I kinda reached this conclusion and, I could be wrong but...He never got a shot at the title because, he wouldn't represent the USA in the 1936 Olympics.
@romspring1050
@romspring1050 5 ай бұрын
And now if those fighters are at the level of ray robinson..
@youtubetubeyou5112
@youtubetubeyou5112 6 ай бұрын
Dude he looks like Crawford 🥊
@c.antoniojohnson7114
@c.antoniojohnson7114 6 ай бұрын
@@youtubetubeyou5112 He was before Crawford.
@vince11harris
@vince11harris 6 ай бұрын
Sugar Ray was a great fighter but he ducked the wholes Murderers Row
@brucemedley635
@brucemedley635 6 ай бұрын
Even sugar ray robinson had bogeymen he didn't want to fight not just charley burley
@Talent_Cliccs087
@Talent_Cliccs087 Ай бұрын
@@brucemedley635 who didn’t he want to fight another then Charlie
@JosephMarquez-pj9dp
@JosephMarquez-pj9dp 6 ай бұрын
Although Sugar ray robinson was a great fighter he did by pass a lot of black fighters. Jack Johnson also avoided black fighters especially after fighting Sam Langford only once he refused to fight him again.
@davidgerald133
@davidgerald133 5 ай бұрын
Life CHOICES....had he gone to Berlin he might be as famous as Jesse Owens
@rojosik9385
@rojosik9385 5 ай бұрын
Ray Robinson didn't avoid him beside Burley was just a fighter but didn't have the appeal of Robinson and couldn't draw like Robinson a very dull person In robinson prime he was not a middle weight over rated
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Mike Tyson greatest boxing historian ever. He could know about Burley
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
Keep in mind Burley beat better opponents than ggg ever did
@LeadLeftLeon
@LeadLeftLeon 6 ай бұрын
The unconventional young Roy Jonez reminded an old school trainer of you guessed it Charley Burley!
@mattsharkey8437
@mattsharkey8437 6 ай бұрын
Way to steal from CHAMPSIDE lol
@NathanThePrezPretlow
@NathanThePrezPretlow 6 ай бұрын
Charley Burley never got at the tital because Charley didn't play the gangster fix a fight game of those times
@vickymensah9453
@vickymensah9453 5 ай бұрын
Part of murders row brilliant fighter.white mother,black father must have been very challenging for him.sad
@alover466
@alover466 3 ай бұрын
Aint no way this guy beats SRR
@richardhuddleston7086
@richardhuddleston7086 6 ай бұрын
Burley was a light heavy Robinson sniffles right and Archie Moore fought and beat him
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