The Gilbert and Sullivan Mass

[@TWICEfan3125]

Personally speaking, I'd rather attend a Gilbert and Sullivan mass than suffer through what people today insist on calling "worship music".

[@Clarinetboy82]

Then there's the disastrous Catholic Mass at World Youth Day in Brazil in 2013 where they played "Entrance of the Gladiators" (which is circus music for those not familiar) for the gospel entrance with people coming in on roller skates and the lady carrying the Holy Gospel is dressed in ridiculous costume... talk about vomiting in the pew and wanting to fashion a pitchfork with church pencils...

[@allthenewsordeath5772]

Clarinetboy82 Jesus Christ, I thought John Paul the second told everyone to cut it out with that dumb shit.

[@inesdeerausquin5658]

One million percent with you... though given the choice, #gregorianchant all the way.

[@husq48]

Yea, whatever.

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

I had a professor who held that even Sullivan was too dated, in the sense of being a product of its time (like Christian power ballads are soooo 2000s).

[@UrbaneOracle]

And the other half said they would become Presbyterians...which is much worse. Absolutely loved that bit.

[@MrLittlelawyer]

Even as a Presbyterian I laughed till my sides hurt...or rather till my family asked me to stop obnoxiously laughing.

[@elizabethh1665]

@@MrLittlelawyer same lol

[@MrLittlelawyer]

​@@elizabethh1665 Sometimes I get youtube comments like this that are an utter blast from the bast. Scares me.

[@jakobi4971]

@@MrLittlelawyer here’s another blast from the past, though admittedly a more recent past than your previous one. Friendly reminder to rewatch this masterpiece

[@RSmyII]

@@MrLittlelawyerfellow Presbyterian here to blast the past once more.

[@danielledunsworth9229]

I honestly wished my family had a family Bible study everyday, when (if) I start my own family I want my husband (if I ever have one) to lead our family in Bible study/prayer/worship every day.

[@cliffordcrimson7124]

When I was growing up my mother would do a morning devotional before she took us to school and went to work, then when we went to bed she would teach us about the day's lesson after she'd digested it through the day.

[@reyalpEleluku]

a good thing to discuss with any potential future husband

[@collegiate_commons]

I also wish my family had this!

[@CaptainFritz28]

My family did this almost every night when I was younger and before my brother went off to college. It certainly strengthened my faith, as well as my parents taking me to church each Sunday.

[@choicemeatrandy6572]

My mother used to tuck me in then say a prayer over me and always reminding me to trust God since I was like 4. Looking back now, those were the most precious moments of my childhood, so much so that it always felt weird when I was staying at a friend's house and it never happened. God bless her mightily.

[@Christopher-so4dn]

This is clearly the first generation in the history of the world that is incapable of believing the gospel unless it is presented to them in the context of the day's popular secular music. Beautiful.

[@chesedwalnut3062]

Funny Luther kinda did that.

[@philipwalker7388]

You mustn't be too hard on Mrs Pemberton. Some fool did label the plate "For the sick".

[@williammetz7500]

Lol!

[@timweiner7990]

This is winning.

[@uncletedscabin4625]

Incredibly underrated comment.

[@PhantomAlucard]

"Great sausage pudding!" The only exclamation to remind me what it is to loud out loud for years. I salute you sir, this was spectacularly done, both in terms of pastoral theology and humor. I would love to see more videos like this one on your channel. This video deserves a share and a favorite, at the very least.

[@csanglican9596]

I’ve just discovered this channel. True story: About 20 years ago I was in the sacristy with the priest where a stack of the newly printed parish directory were lying. Under the words “St. Andrew’s Church Parish Directory” was printed the verse “I know my sheep and mine know me”. Using the tune of “When I was a Lad” at the point of “I polished that knob…” I intoned: I know my sheep and mine know me for they’re listed in the parish di-rec-to-ry. (louder, with cockney accent): He knows His sheep and His sheep know He for we’re listed in the parish directory. The reverend father bent over a cabinet. I was disappointed that there wasn’t more of a G&S Mass in this episode.

[@blackoutninja]

I would add that as a true Englishman I can testify that there are very few Anglican clergymen who ever *do* actually preach the Gospel

[@blackoutninja]

***** The Catholic Church does not believe in the Biblical Gospel as it is, so I can't understand why you'd bring them into this.

[@jeremycarnes1991]

blackoutninja Way to not know what you're talking about, dude! But don't worry, if you remain hyper sectarian like that, I'm sure some dead French guy will be pleased to inform you that you're super manly and really really really smart

[@blackoutninja]

Jeremy Carnes Way to not know how to argue a point. dude. Shout a few childish insults rather than actually address the issue at hand. I know absolutely what I'm talking about, do you not think I know what the RCC teaches compared with the bible? Sectarianism has got nothing to do with this, biblical truth is all that matters, something which seems completely lost on you. (btw I didn't get the "dead french guy" and "super manly and really really really smart" remarks, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about there)

[@blackoutninja]

***** I truly hope that this is the case

[@dlwatib]

blackoutninja Saying stuff like that displays your ignorance. The RCC wrote the Bible. Don't try to tell us we don't believe it. It's only due to us that you've got any apostolic teaching whatsoever.

[@thehistorybounder]

I'm dying. This is masterfully done. I'm a former Anglican so this is quite amusing to watch.

[@MichelleEdits]

Absolutely SMASHING vocabulary!

[@PacmanBonez]

is it weird that i enjoyed that sinners chorus?

[@dantejager9296]

Does anyone know on which song was it based?

[@docwallacemusic]

Dante Jager There are so many Gilbert & Sullivan songs that use call and response that I think Hans is parodying a style and a formula rather than using one particular song. For a couple of noteworthy examples, check out "When I Was A Lad" and "I am the Very Model of a Modern Major General."

[@dantejager9296]

David Wallace oh shit. Thanks dude!Thanks a lot!

[@afternoont1135]

Have you ever heard "the devil went down to georgia?" The Devils part is way better

[@keiman7096]

afternoonT If you count the band of demons.

[@matthewdhewlett]

Glad to see the Axl Rose gag found a home.

[@thelandofsmyth]

I LOVE you guys so much! I want to make some videos like these in the Orthodox Church. We need it so desperately.

[@docwallacemusic]

Hilarious! (though also a bit sad). The "Second Coming of Axl Rose" wasn't lost on me!

[@tylerhacking139]

18 years old greatfull that I believe in jesus

[@Eerie_Clark]

you guys are so funny, yet so truthful. i greatly envy that talent.

[@christiandenbutter5597]

"The other half told me they'd become Presbyterians... Which is even worse" hahahahhahaha, as a Presbyterian this is hilarious

[@jostreet214]

Wasn't expecting Axl Rose at the end. That was hilarious, I had forgotten for a second that he was a choir boy in his youth. This really hits the nail on the head as far as the American church goes as a whole.

[@lindhe]

This is funnier than it should be.

[@vickibeach4561]

Hahaha!! It TRUER than it should be!! Lol

[@marie-bernadettebenedict3007]

As a devout Catholic I feel your pain! I’m a daily Mass attendee and it infuriates me how poor some Priests’ preaching is when there’s such a vast Treasury of Faith, and how we don’t have many children from the Parish School attend the Masses because the parents don’t believe or set the example so of course the children don’t come! One time I was at a Baptism and the parents and family were all chit-chatting. Their son, about 8 maybe 9, chided them to be quiet by “shhhhhh”. He was teaching his 5 yo sister about the statues, AND HIS PARENTS CHIDED HIM. He showed way more devotion than they did. He was a flower growing in the Faith and teaching others that his parents then cut down.

[@laveraparato258]

That is horribly sad

[@mithrawnudo2152]

Pew pencil pitchfork had me rofling.

[@ericarnohiller9685]

I can't stop watching this on loop and laughing until I cry.

[@463lorenzo]

Interestingly enough, Arthur Sullivan actually composed quite a bit of music for the Anglican church. Although I was not able to find any evidence of a mass setting, there is a Sullivan morning service in d major. Very few (if any) of his choral pieces have become Anglican choral standards (at least to my knowledge), although a few of his hymn tunes are in the Episcopal hymnal. It isn't Easter in my book until you sing "Come Ye Faithful Raise the Strain" to his tune "St. Kevin."

[@kenhowes9951]

"Onward, Christian Soldiers" is also his. I'm looking at a hymnal in which there are twelve hymns set to his music.

[@lukemwills]

You might be disappointed if you join Lutherans for an Easter Mass. We sing "Come You Faithful Raise the Strain" to the tune GAUDEAMUS PARITER.

[@Concetta20]

I laughed at this so much I teared up. So spot on. I liked that you pointed out the "planks and specks" on both sides (and there was extra hilarity for me as huge a G&S fan). :)

[@patrickw.randolph7824]

2:20 --->"Snafburbling Wimbats, Mr. Vicar!"

[@corbannoahofficial]

That exclamation had me rolling on the floor

[@thatgh0stvariety814]

I'm a Presbyterian who loves this channel and I wasn't expecting the Presbyterian joke but I snorted at it lol

[@micmikeman6865]

Some may even say you had no choice in the matter but were predestined to find it funny.......

[@Concetta20]

They could sing "Onward Christian Soldiers" by Arthur Sullivan.

[@lukemwills]

The tune the Episcopal church sings "Come You Faithful Raise the Strain" is also written by Sullivan.

[@gm5aug]

Could you post a link to where the picture of the Vicar came from, please?

[@ChrisTopher-id4mz]

"Mrs. Pembelton for example, vomited in the offering plate."

[@codpieceofjustice4595]

I loved the Axl Rose appearance at the end 👍

[@michaelbaughman8910]

"Which is worse." Lol AMEN

[@Alienum36]

Absolutely incredible!! Thank you so much for saying these things!!!

[@Sldejo]

Please make another one with Donell and Connell

[@geticz5636]

Absolutely fantastic LOL! Not even offended.

[@couchcaptain9379]

Option 2 is so completely on the money, and hard, which is why, having grown up in the church, I can't recall hearing the gospel. Rather, I can't recall hearing the gospel until returning to church after 9 years of hedonism and atheism, at the age of 39. This is an absurdly long time to attend church and not even know why, and i'm certain than many Americans and Europeans in particular would be able to tell a similar tale, either of themselves or friends, and that is a horrible fact indeed.

[@Mary_Kraensel]

When God graciously saved me, I didn't even know Jesus was God or what the point of the Holy Spirit was. Though my childhood was 30+ years ago, I don't recall ever being told that Jesus was God, or anything about the Trinity growing up.

[@davidbagg9289]

While (as someone who attends an Anglican church) I found this very funny and well-observed, it is unfair on Arthur Sullivan. Sullivan (without Gilbert) was a fairly prolific church composer - he leaves a Te Deum service, over 20 anthems, and around 50 hymn tunes. The most of famous of these is the widely known tune to "Onward, Christian soldiers", written as a processional march for children in his parish congregation. I don't think a Lutheran would have any particular problems with the proclamation of the victory of Christ's cross over Satan, and the unity and assurance the Church universal should draw from that. Maybe a future video though....

[@JonKrueger]

That 1st option makes perfect sense!

[@MrGyngve]

Ohh Monty Python! Thy has inspired many! Really good stuff!

[@MaxLatham]

That is most witty indeed, and with an underlying message of wayward generations, interested only in playing computer games, getting wasted and frittering their time away frivolously. Jolly good show TheLutheran. Splendid!

[@BenjaminWirtz]

Brilliant, as always.

[@BenjaminWirtz]

I think it is making fun of high church services. I heard a high church service recently and as thinking it sounded like Gilbert and Sullivan. 

[@blackoutninja]

Please make this one into a series

[@jbrandtlhn]

The Widow Bumbleshire. Classic.

[@KneedleKnees]

I liked the sinners chorus. I'd attend.

[@jeremybrooks7415]

The addition of Axl Rose at the end was unexpected.

[@Mary_Kraensel]

I said, 'Where's Horus when you need him?' 😆

[@profjblue88]

Indubitably good!

[@wurlitzer895]

Don't worry! All will be well because a local church is hosting a service of 'All Age Worship - and Blessing of School Bags', ready for new term. If that doesn't stem the tide of indifference/unbelief, then what will??

[@AngeloPerfili]

very,very,funny especially at the end with the cameo appearance by Axel Rose....

[@storheimgf]

struck gold in theologihumerous bone, ossifal +

[@comichound]

NAILED IT!!!

[@Railgun_12]

Y'all need to do another one like this! So funny yet true!!! :D

[@savedgrace7345]

I love you guys! I can't wait to see what you do next.

[@VictoriaRosanna]

Thank you Fr Z and Luthern Satire. That video sounded very Catholic. When are you guys coming home?

[@jackiechan6701]

+Jane Voris We are home. We never left. Romans left the church with their pope. :)

[@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098]

Would that be the Eastern Church? ☦️😅

[@TheIconodule]

Love it, brilliant.

[@Callithyia]

wait, the comments... where do y'all think pipe organs came from? o.0 They were pop culture at the time they were incorporated. It was a Thing when Tyndale translated the Bible into the common language, too. Never giggled to an Arthur Sullivan hymn? Or sung the US National Anth-- I mean, "To Anacreon in Heaven?" People have *always* incorporated fun stuff. Just because archaic becomes formal doesn't mean it started that way. No reason good messages can't stay current, and their being current doesn't mean they lose messaginess :)

[@enrico759]

Is that a real hymn in 2:20? Update: it’s been a year now, I like this hymn and still am trying to find its name.

[@1dcondave]

OK... Axl Rose at the end was genius

[@samacwns5407]

Just might be my new favorite!

[@lsonofjohn8034]

I kinda want to see a Gilbert and Sullivan’s service now

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

@LutheranSatire Who was that guy at the end?

[@steakman1989]

Well then all Mr. Thompson needs is to find his local Anglo-Catholic parish, then everything would go right for his family!

[@TheElborquez]

Because it's all about the 'mysteries' of the liturgical Sunday mass. That, and the medieval robes Anglo-Catholic priests love to wear

[@danielsparling3079]

funniest thing I have ever seen on the interwebs ever

[@Ngaemond]

Um... brilliant^3. And off the hook hysterical. Great sausage pudding!

[@cyrussmith5242]

We teach the Gospel true, and our chapel is a beauty, we teach those in the pew, just what is their Christian duty. When tithes we see or a bishop in need, we jump at the chance to aid, when there's grief and strife and the trials of life, we can't be seen that day.

[@RobynBroylesAMDG]

What's up with Horus having a German accent?

[@awobbie.3140]

Wrong video, friend. :)

[@TheDCinSC]

It was a tailcoat, not a tux but you're right. Frockcoat would've been more like it.

[@reyalpEleluku]

"become Presbyterians, which is much worst" -- sadly many Presbyterian churches have abandoned their scriptural and confessional basis to embrace guitars, drums (or organs) and uninspired (non-Bible provided) songs.

[@chrismueller1191]

Brilliant!!!

[@Interestingenough4]

Great video, but....I don't get the joke about "the other half becoming Presbyterians, which is much worse" than becoming unabashed pagans. Would there be someone who could point out what that whole deal is? Does it have something to do with Calvinism?

[@swimmerfish34]

Probably, at least he didn't say baptists lol. It's actually a bit ironic because out of the three it is the Lutheran Church that for a large part has apostatized from orthodoxy and become liberal. It is also ironic that Luther himself was a Calvinist.

[@Oreosforlunch]

Andy Osborne Luther was not a Calvinist. Being a Platonistic Protestanst is not near as specific as being a Calvinist. He and John Calvin never got along and Luther hated the way John Calvin went around making his own theocratic state. Theologically speaking, the only things they had in common was a reliance on scriptural authority and Platonist philosophical language. And even then, Luther did not profess a disbelief in sacraments or of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Luther was much more a heretical Catholic than an outright Protestant in comparison to not only John Calvin but also to most modern Lutherans.

[@TheLutheranSatire]

Don't read too much into this joke. It's meant to be funny because being a Presbyterian is clearly not worse than being a pagan.

[@swimmerfish34]

Seth Woolwine Calvinism has little to do with Calvin. Luther was a Calvinist in that he believed in God's absolute sovereignty over salvation and mans total inability to choose God. This is what the book "The Bondage of the Will" was about.

[@swimmerfish34]

Tim Ponstingle I apologize if it seems I am painting all Lutherans with one brush, but churches that are under the Lutheran title have been a lot more liberal then Presbyterians in my experience.

[@JeremiahuTOY]

This was painful. Satire at its best.

[@rghunnicutt]

when you are right, you are right

[@rickcoleman8277]

educational, relevant and fun. as usual.

[@jcrebel18]

I can't say I agree with every point in the video, though I'm glad you didn't take the Ken Ham approach and blame it on "evolution and millions of years." -.- I also laughed at some of the jokes. :)

[@swimmerfish34]

What Ken doesn't seem to understand is that evolution and millions of years is just a small part of the problem because it is part of the humanistic worldview. Children are less likely to believe in humanism if they were taught the Bible.

[@jcrebel18]

Andy Osborne You do know there is such a thing as "Christian humanism," right? :P

[@TheElborquez]

jcrebel18 Unfortunately for "christian humanists" (which are mainly Roman Catholics, by the way), the syncretistic worldview of "christian humanism" is not compatible with biblical Christianity...

[@swimmerfish34]

jcrebel18 The view of humans from a Christian perspective, yes this term may be used academically, but in an everyday sense "humanism" refers to a secular humanistic worldview.

[@jcrebel18]

Andy Osborne ...which is still considered to be "pro-human" even if its not to your religious tastes. :P

[@N0Tmiche11e]

I'm the 10,000 subscriber. :)

[@rnnyhoff]

I thought with the mention of pagans that Unitarians would follow forthwith. I was disappointed when Presbyterians were used as a foil. If Garrison Keillor had written the dialogue, UUs would have been ridiculed. We thrive on that.

[@CheapSkateGamer96]

Rudy Nyhoff Foil is the way Lutheran Satire makes it's funniest jokes though. A lot of people hate Presbyterians for no good reason.

[@darienspecter]

I took it more a joke based on Anglican animosity towards Scottish Presbyterians.

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Ironically, I once heard a music director go on a tirade against hymns written by Arthur Sullivan (such as "Onward Christian Soldiers") as being foppish Victorianism, or somesuchthing.

[@albertweir5070]

even though im not a lutheran that could apply to all churches very amusing well done

[@grantbartley483]

More G + S Gospel please

[@JohnnyH-om3yx]

As a Presbyterian, I am deeply offended.

[@mitchelmodine9197]

Hilarious. Poignant. Brilliant.

[@clintd3476]

Lovely Axl cameo.

[@stephenrice2063]

Me at 4:05: "Pie, please!"

[@lusocaster]

Those gentlemen, both the vicar and the layman, if I may say so, look very British and Anglican, perhaps identified with the Low Church.

[@Day_Jyer]

Best ending yet!!

[@menslady125eif2590]

I prefer a good balance of contemporary worship and old hymns on a pipe organ.

[@ObieMe1]

Is that guy with the big glasses at the end supposed to be some pop culture icon or something?

[@docwallacemusic]

ObieMe1 Axl Rose, lead singer of Guns & Roses . . . it's a running Lutheran Satire joke referencing the end of the song "Don't Cry"- [kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIOsk5lsf9aehMUm26s] enjoy!

[@ObieMe1]

Oh, I see, thank you.

[@brandonbennett2776]

Yes, we should all be singing in Latin again instead of the common language. Oh wait, I forgot this is about the new traditional music not the music from before. It's not like everywhere in the world the gospel has been demonstrated to best grow when there is a strong, theologically rich music that is contemporary coupled with people suffering for the faith. To cling to the tired vestiges of "traditional" worship and prop them up as irreplaceable sacrosanct items is making for laws the traditions of men. Only two things are indispensable in Christian worship, baptism and communion. Identifying with Christ's death and the new covenant. Everything else, while good, can be disposed of to meet the cultural needs of a people.

[@stephenturnbull6834]

Setting aside any thoughts about the theological content, this piece is offered under totally false pretences as there is no Gilbert and Sullivan content whatsoever.

[@Yan_Alkovic]

The solution was very simple: Play the Carmina Burana and Ludus Danielis

[@anemicgoalhop495]

Nothing a little Axl Rose can't fix.

[@robertlehnert4148]

You also summed up the idiocy of both Sister Act 1&2

[@phillippattarozzi8092]

"Impassable impassivity" - thats the crux

[@bryandavenport7283]

Praise the Lord, you'll need a diaper change after watching this!

[@silasolofson]

Awesome... deo volente

[@pauldelaney5990]

I have to confess that I have Presbyterian leanings!!!

[@kitjohnson2767]

I hope you weren't implyin' somethin' bad about Gilberg n' Sullivan!

[@rgaleny]

Great !

[@jordancookie7864]

lol axl rose...

[@eternalwolf777]

Genius.

[@danielledunsworth9229]

Lol "the plague...likely not" #pre-COVID joke 😂

[@cameronmartin3616]

I wonder when Christianity first used innovation and presentation to attract young people.