Donall and Conall Meet the JWs

Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Franklin Rutherford are insisting that you must call God by the name "Jehovah."
Donall and Conall have some questions.

[@alg11297]

As a former religious Jew I had to click on this. Everything you said is correct and you even pronounced everything correctly. When talking about God, Jews also use the word Ha-shem which means "the name", You guys get an A for Hebrew;

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

Baroch Ha-Shem, I only just got that!

[@randallmccollum418]

You are obviously lying since anyone with basic Hebrew knows those are not the same vowels.

[@alg11297]

@@randallmccollum418 Oh, is it a kawmetz or an esnachtah. Vowels were only invented in the past 200 years so the Jews could pronounce the words of the Torah in a uniform manner.

[@randallmccollum418]

​@@alg11297 Vowels have always in Hebrew. I think you mean the vowel markings and those were used over 200 years ago. In fact we have Hebrew documents with vowel markings from well over 1000 years ago. Seems like you need to go back to Hebrew school or just look into the work of Dr Nehemia Gordon

[@alg11297]

@@randallmccollum418 And to think, every Torah in the world doesn't have an vowels. Look up the difference between a K're and a k'rah: that which is written and that which is spoken. Are you on the level or making this up as you go along? (G. Marx)

[@hede_the_call]

Whenever I hear heresy, I can't help muttering "Come on, Patrick!"

[@elyuko293]

Get it together Patrick!

[@komnennos]

Whenever I hear someone using an example to explain the Most Holy Trinity, even if a good one, I can't help but think in my head "That's modalism, Patrick!"

[@lodestar3984]

@@komnennos Me too😂

[@bobbynelson5849]

@@komnennos using analogies for God never works. I don’t understand why people try to use them still

[@c.lappin-21]

That's modlism Patrick

[@jrc99us]

I would love to see Donall and Conall meet Joel Olsteen.

[@randomhandle]

You mean, Patrick.

[@jrc99us]

@@randomhandle 🤣🤣🤣

[@johngeverett]

YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@mitchellc4 Jehovah's Witnesses are more accurately called "Watchtowerites". They get their beliefs from the WTS and not from the Bible. Even the writings of the JW masters openly admit to this.

[@bookingitwithwill402]

Donall and Conall are the theology teachers we don't deserve, but we can all use.

[@colesowder315]

A lady that goes to my church had a JW at her door and actually ended up converting the guy to catholicism, so now the local kingdom hall doesn’t allow its members to go to houses with statues of Mary in the front of them. We got one around easter time this year for the first time in a solid 7/8 years, even though we have one

[@matthaioskober8372]

Christian flags have the same affect because the cross is an idol and they insist it was just a post 🙄 pluss they avoid the more learned in the faith 😉

[@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098]

Go, Mary & friends!

[@Slavaisusukhrystu]

My Protestant church gained a family of five thanks to the persistence of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I’m actually really fond of them and hope to see them again in heaven.

[@NickHawaii]

There are way more Catholics and Protestants that become Jehovah’s Witnesses than the other way around. Everyone knows it.

[@NickHawaii]

That is such a lie. We have no problem going to houses with Mary in front of them. I love talking to Catholics. Many are sincere and are coming out of false religion. If I were you I would do a background check on the history of your church and how they persecuted people reading bibles and even torturing them. And don’t get me started on the immortal and disgusting popes. A chain of disgrace.

[@tylerborgard8805]

Jemima's Waterbeds Japello's Walruses Josiah's Winter Boots Jabroni's Wimbledon Jacobi's Wilderness Jalopy's Wildebeest Jujitsu's Wonderwall Jamaica's Wicker Works Jumanji's Wiffle Bats Did I get them all?

[@FlyinBlaney]

*Gepetto's Walruses

[@discipleaaron]

"That's close enough!"

[@sakoupa]

Jeremy Worbyn :)))

[@DavidParker-cf2km]

Jehovah's Witless

[@valentinaa9916]

Josiahs winter boots is my Favorite !!! 🤣🤣

[@noahhahn7311]

The best part is that they're just doing to the JWs' name what the JWs do to God's...

[@friendlyfire7509]

Jallapi wintercoats

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Ohoho oh that slaps me on the knee!

[@strangemonarchist2818]

Jehoshaphat's Wind-Tunnel

[@bobirving6052]

Haha. What is his name though? God, lord, father, master, husband, saviour, redeemer, holy one, emanuel, etc? Scripture seems to repeat quite often how important hus name is. Jer 12:16 And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, YHVH liveth; as they taught my people to swear by Baal(lord); then shall they be built in the midst of my people. According to Jeremiah it is essential for gentile converts to know and use his name rather than the eccumenical title "lord"(that's in the end time too, after the regathering).

[@RezaChity-G]

JiuJitSu's Witherwall!

[@sihollett]

The JWs I've met made a huge deal about the first bit of John 1:18 - that no one has ever seen God (and so Jesus isn't God as he's been seen). They literally were trying to persuade me to become a Jehovah's witness by saying its impossible to witness Jehovah! They couldn't get why I was giggling at this, even when I explained it, as sadly they weren't able to think outside the box they had been trapped in.

[@athena2483]

I know the JW answer to this, in John 1:18 it says monogenes theos (only-begotten god) distingushing betweening the unbegotten God (the Father) and the begotten god (Jesus), that Jesus is the imprint of his being (charakter tes hypostasis (Hebrews 1:3)) In Hebrew time, an agent would be treated as though he were that person himself, we see this in Exodus all the time when an angel (the Angel of YHVH) is treated as though he were YHVH himself but wasn't.

[@johnmcafee6140]

Yes, that is the exact answer a JW would give. But that defense has some serious problems. 1. The word 'begotten' implies that Jesus is a created being. This has caused some misunderstanding since God the Son did not have an origin and was not created by God. He is Himself an eternal being. For you and me, who grew up in church, this in not a problem but for groups like Jehovah's Witnesses they use this translation to try and disprove the deity of Jesus. 2. The King James translators misunderstood the etymology of the Greek word transliterated "monogenes". Early English translations have traditionally understood 'monogenes' to be from 'monos' (only) and 'gennao' (beget). But translators now understand 'monogenes' to be from 'monos' (only) and 'genos' (kind), meaning the only one of its kind. Support for this translation is found in Hebrews 11:17 where Isaac is called Abraham's 'monogenes'. Isaac was not Abraham's "only-begotten" son. Ishmael was his oldest, Isaac was second, and others were born later, but Isaac was the only one of his kind- the son of God's promise. In the Latin translation, monogenes was translated as 'unicus', from which we get our word unique. This is what is meant by monogenes in all John's writings (John 1:14,18; 3:16,18; 1 John 4:9): Jesus is God's only Son in that His essential nature is the same as the Father's

[@athena2483]

1. Prove the Son is eternal 2. Obviously you think this contradicts what JW have to say about this, I suggest you read what they actually argue wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003331 but as for "his essential nature is the same as the Father's" is not supported in any of these verses or in the Bible, in fact is contradicted by various verses and is falsified using logic. We all share in human nature yet you wouldn't say we're just 1 Human, its illogical to say that 3 Persons are somehow also 1 Person at the same time, unless you reject the law of non contradiction or the law of identity, which if you do, I have no reason to listen to you since you admit that your beliefs are illogical.

[@grzesiekdomeyko]

Ad 1. The prologue of the Gospel of John refers to neo-Platonic metaphysics, where Logos is eternally emanated by God. Since it is strongly implied that Son is Logos, therefore the Son is eternal.

[@sihollett]

"I have no reason to listen to you since you admit that your beliefs are illogical." says the person who is clearly a JW, and thus illogically and ironically claims to have witnessed Jehovah while asserting that no one can. ;) The Angel of YHVH is YHVH, rather than a mere angel. Regular angels don't accept divine worship, but actively refuse it. What has happened (in a large swath of actual Christianity sadly, rather just a pseudo-Christian cult) is a category error that conflates the angelic role with angelic being. The picture the Old Testament gives of the Angel is "God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God." This goes way beyond "an agent would be treated as though he were that person himself", as humankind (in its male-female plurality reflecting the plurality of God) is made as idols/images/agents, of YHVH , but humans are very much not lifted to the heights of being YHVH in the way the Angel (and other Christophanies like "The Commander of YHVH's armies") are.

[@phoenixjr33]

THEY DID NOT JUST HAVE THE POPE WITH A MILESTONE AROUND HIS NECK!!! YOOOOOOO SHADE! I LOVE IT

[@mrjeffjob]

I missed that millstone as I was too busy laughing at his name. And I’m a serious Catholic! I think the Pope is the first guy they haven’t called Patrick. 😂 Although Pope Patrick is kinda catchy.

[@bobjob2514]

Looks like someone about to get more than just a sprinkle… 😉

[@michaelrichard316]

"What's a Jehovah?" Gets me every time.

[@NickHawaii]

Yet their bible has Jehovah in it. (Psalm 83:18) Not cool to disrespect God’s Name.

[@Erine120]

@@NickHawaii translate that into Hebrew and it becomes Clear that it’s a place holder for his real name since they’re not aloud to even write it out fully no one alive can be sure that we’re Pronouncing Yahweh right But we can be 100% sure gods name is not Jehovah Jehovah is just a place Holder for the Jews as they’re not allowed to say his real name which is Yahweh

[@NickHawaii]

@@Erine120 There is good evidence that God’s Name is Yehowah. English Jehovah. English is English and Hebrew is Hebrew. We speak English. Nowhere are we given any permission to stop writing or saying the name. God invites us to use it. What Bible translation do you use? Thanks.

[@NickHawaii]

@@Erine120 What Bible translation do you recommend by the way?

[@rightwingwackobird1389]

@@NickHawaii So, then you haven't watched the video?

[@kathyb395]

Busted out laughing at the "the church of cheese and rice of latter day saints" lol Very good video.. missed these.. glad they're back?!

[@soullessmeatpuppet7840]

I'm dying! This is hilarious! We need more Christian comedians making content like this.

[@rolfyoutube586]

Wow! The Boys are Back in Town!! How we have missed them!!!!! And missed seeing new Lutheran Satire videos!!!!! Thanks for doing all the research, all the writing, all the editing that goes into these clips that we enjoy so much!! They are a wonderful resource for believers and questioners alike!

[@zerubbablestranger6970]

I agree %100! If SNL was smart enough, they’d make a movie with Donall and Conall. But alas... well, you know...

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@robertray4191]

@@mitchellc4 ohh i didnt know that! Scripture doesnt teach that ! We will meet Him in the air not be grounded for the resta our lives ~~

[@mitchellc4]

@@robertray4191 Hello The rapture is the catching up to meet Jesus as he descends earth at the second coming The Christian hope is not to “go to heaven” but to inherit the earth made new When a royal visitor or important figure would come you would go out to meet them and escort them into the city Jesus is coming to the earth to rule the nations with believers Believers will go up to meet him and descend to the earth with him Parousia (G3952) is translated 'coming' in 1 Thess. 4:15 and has the following meaning: Physical presence, arrival - The main use is the physical presence of a person. Where that person is not already present refers to the prospect of the physical arrival of that person, especially the visit of a royal or official personage. Apantesis (G529) is translated 'meet' in 1 Thess. 4:17. It is a technical term that refers specifically to the practice of sending a delegation outside the city walls and gates to receive a dignitary who was coming. This was the practice when a king and his army were returning from war. All the people would pour forth from the city gates and welcome them with pomp and circumstance. The people would meet them outside and then usher them back into the city with shouts of joy and acclamation. W E Vines

[@TCall126]

"Pope 'to not catch a predator' 76th" I'm dead. Bury me. I had a good life

[@Steve_P_B]

*75th

[@skn9895]

Yeah, that wasn't a "slam" at all! lol...

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

an accurate assessment. I'm impressed by the accurate depictions of the early figures in the watchtower society's history

[@calendularequiem360]

Your videos actually brought me here.

[@andrewogolo7257]

Didn't think I'd meet you here

[@jeanlannes5930]

@Kade Daivis yet you're watching a channel called LutheranSatire

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@mattwhipple89]

@@calendularequiem360 0

[@mfarley4769]

Thank you for making another Donall and Conall! As an Irishman, I love these guys.

[@andrewnewman5945]

I’m a big language freak and am considering studying it in college so I really like how you discussed Biblical linguistics

[@randallmccollum418]

You will be disappointed when you find out what they are saying about the vowels is not true at all. That is just a talking point repeated by people who don't know Hebrew

[@NickHawaii]

Ask them why it’s okay to say Jehovah when it’s part of another name in their own Bible Translations. 😆

[@nicholemaccalley9462]

I love how everyone’s “Patrick.” :-)

[@williamgammeter5113]

Except "I Am." But, otherwise correct.

[@radtrad-td5lc]

@@mitchellc4 You do realize if you go two verses further he literally says he had glory with the Father before the world even existed, right?

[@bearistotle2820]

The millstone around Francis’ neck was a nice touch. As a Catholic, all I can say is... oof.

[@no-3607]

I'm your elder and the Quran says not to say even uff...jk 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yuniethethird1911]

it took me a minute to get it

[@sihollett]

Francis? Who is this 'Francis' Patrick? Do you mean Pope To-not-catch-a-predator the 75th? ;)

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Yeah... I've been an apologist for him from the beginning. But that silence of his is very fucking deafening.

[@bearistotle2820]

Holy Khan I am just going to duck my head down, get through RCIA, and plow ahead.

[@TarkynSharples2]

The scripture saith: Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. Isaiah 12:2

[@julidrew1212]

Pope to Not Catch a Predator. Beautiful.

[@grangermontag1824]

The 75th

[@mikdan8813]

I burst out laughing. And I'm Catholic.

[@zox3497]

I dont get it :(

[@jonathanchappell9503]

Pedophilia is encouraged in the catholic church the higher up the ranks you get.

[@robertlehnert4148]

@@jonathanchappell9503 No.

[@andreah.5962]

My favorite - Jalopies Wildebeest!

[@TCall126]

So glad you guys are back! I teach Bible classes in a Christian school and you're videos are perfect

[@obediahpolkinghorniii564]

Your v you're - "Obediah, YOU'RE a pedant and YOUR mother must be disappointed in you." 🙂

[@NickHawaii]

Do you teach in your Bible classes it’s wrong to say Jesus??

[@jinaforjesus]

I have been holding my breath for the moment when I’d get to see Charles Taze Russell and “Judge” (not really) Joseph Rutherford having their debut on this channel for years! Oh, how I have missed you, Lutheran Satire! 😁

[@TheRoxlight]

You are the School House Rock of theology!! Love it!!

[@eddavis3337]

My favorite satire team. Thank you for bringing them back

[@bobsakowski8298]

I like the Alanis Morissette reference thrown in there.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Loved the subtle roasts

[@Durbelethwen]

I got on KZbin to watch the original donal and conal video due to being inspired by reading a new book about various heresies. What a surprise to find a new one up as soon as I opened the app.

[@zanezeigler500]

"Get lost Pope To-NOT-Catch-a-Predator LXXV!" Oh boy, I mean, I'm Catholic, and that one was so funny it hurts…or is it the other way around?

[@blindvision4703]

I’m Protestant, and that so gets me!

[@johnnymontalvo5620]

Haha same here. I’m Catholic, but that one made me laugh. Funny is funny.

[@lkae4]

🤣

[@height5558]

Wasn't funnny

[@theparadigm8149]

What do Catholics think of Jehovah Witnesses?

[@benjaminpeck7200]

Please keep making videos. Please keep making videos!!!

[@nicobones9608]

I once had a conversation with someone who'd been raised a JW. She was completely shocked to discover that Jesus was Jewish. She'd never heard that before. It made me REALLY wonder what the guys in the Kingdom Halls are teaching.

[@NickHawaii]

Huh? Many people are learning. Some people think the KJV is the Bible Jesus used. What about what you are being taught in your church by your guys? You think what they say is based on the Bible? If they teach doctrines like the trinity, hellfire, and immortality of the soul you been duped.

[@dancoles2235]

Jesus wasnt Jewish. He was ethnically Judahite, resided for some time as a Judean, but never accepted Judaism as a religion. It is false to equate the rightful faith of faithful Israelites as Judaism. He believed in the messiah/Christ, rejected the traditions of the elders, and replaced the corrupted (Edomite-infiltrated) with one based on Melchizedek authority. Israelite monotheism and/or the law should never be described as Judaism. Look for the word's actual usage in scripture rather than how it is misused in commentaries. The Talmud is a compilation made by antichrists.

[@bigtobacco1098]

​@NickHawaii no trinity ???

[@WalterW]

YAY! My favorite Irish twins!

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@NickHawaii]

The seem funny but they don’t make fun of the name Jesus. Not how they said in in Bible times.

[@HonorableRosemary]

You need to make one of these satirizing the fact that JWs believe that Jesus was really Michael the Archangel.

[@sihollett]

"Chief Messenger who is like God" being a name for the divine Jesus is not necessarily heterodox (though isn't mainstream at all). Of course, that Archangel Michael is really Jesus is different from Jesus is just Archangel Michael. The Arian JWs believe the latter, of course.

[@user-nc2mu4im5u]

So did John Calvin and other fathers of protestantism as also certain early fathers and scholars of the Church like Origin who believed Jesus was the Archangel Michael.Go and satirize them too:) Such a hypocrisy!

[@sihollett]

Calvin, Origen, etc believed Michael is Jesus (ie the second person of the Trinity, God from God, other Nicean stuff). JWs believe Jesus is Michael (ie head angel). There's a difference, and it's pretty important, Patrick.

[@user-nc2mu4im5u]

Ha, you wish- they considered *Jesus* as *Michael* ! Early Christian scholar Origen writes: "There are certain creatures, rational and divine, which are called powers [spirit creatures, probably angels]; and *of these Christ was the highest and best* and is called not only the wisdom of God but also His power." - ANF 10:321-322. The 1599 Geneva Study Bible: Revelation “12:7 And there was war in heaven: 14 Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, “(14) Christ is the Prince of angels and head of the Church, who bears that iron rod….” --------------------------------- John Gill, A Body of Doctrinal Divinity, Book 7 Chapter 5: “1b2. Another prophecy in Daniel 12:1-3 respects the second and personal coming of Christ; for he is meant by Michael, who is "as God", as his name signifies, equal to him; the ‘great prince,’ the prince of the kings of the earth, and the head of all principalities and powers.” Butterworth, Cruden, and Taylor in their concordances, assert that Michael and Angel are both names of Christ. --------------------------------- Guyse in his Paraphrase on the New Testament, on Rev. xii. 7, acknowledges that many good expositors think that Christ is signified by Michael; and also gives it as his opinion. Highly respected trinitarian Bible scholar, Dr. E. F. Scott, Emeritus Professor at the Union Theological Seminary, wrote: "The author of Hebrews ... thinks of [Jesus] as an angel, whom God had exalted above all others, investing him with his own majesty and calling him by the name of Son." - p. 726, An Encyclopedia of Religion, 1945 ed. And, again, the very trinitarian The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible tells us that at this time the Jewish expectation was that the Christ was "a pre-existent, heavenly angelic being who, at the end of time, will appear at the side of God as judge of the world [see Acts 7:55-56]." - p. 364, Vol. 3, Abingdon Press, 1962. ------------------------------------- "Angel of the Lord [angel of Jehovah] - occurs many times in the Old Testament, where in almost every instance it means a supernatural personage to be distinguished from Jehovah .... Some feel the pre-incarnate Christ is meant." - p. 39, Today's Dictionary of the Bible (trinitarian), Bethany House Publ., 1982 Should I go on??????

[@sihollett]

Patrick, Calvin isn't bringing Jesus down to, but raising Michael up. He's saying Michael is Jesus, not Jesus is Michael. A mere angel isn't the one to command the hosts of heaven - after all, doesn't the Old Testament repeatedly refer to YHVH as "Lord of Hosts" (ie commander/prince of the angelic armies of heaven)? "Prince of angels" obviously doesn't require the person being called that to be an angel - YHVH isn't being called an angel just because he's being called their Lord. Calvin is saying that Christ is YHWH when he calls him the Prince of angels! Calvin says of your view "Nothing can be more stupid" (Institutes 1.13.16) and says of similar such 'triflings' (to use his word) that deny Trinitarian Christianity "Although Jews, Turks, and other infidels boast that they worship God the Creator of heaven and earth, yet they worship an imaginary God: however obstinate they may be, they follow vague and uncertain opinions instead of truth; they grope in the dark and worship their own imagination instead of God." (com Is 25:9). I cannot see how someone would hold a view they see as the most stupid thing, and idolatrous too! Patrick, you've taken scholar (erroneously - the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were only rediscovered in 1945 to be fair to Guyse, show that ancient Jewish views were much more similar to Christian views when it comes to God's oneness, ie that there's a plurality in that) claiming modern Jewish views for ancient Jews' views, but still disagreeing strongly with such a view, as the scholar saying that he thinks Jesus is an angel. Patrick, don't bother going on - your twisting of what better theologians than I are saying shows that there's no point as you will simply deliberately misunderstand what I'm saying.

[@MarcBienenfeld]

Thank you for making this video, i've really missed donnell and connell! This video in particular had been needed for ages Patrick.

[@chai__tea]

The “ironic” reference made me laugh out loud 😂🤣🤣 brilliant!

[@myramadd6651]

More Donall and Conall! We need more of these two.

[@jasontucher7011]

OMG this is great. I used to be a JW. This will piss them off to no end. They couldn't get 10 seconds in LOL.

[@NickHawaii]

How do you say Jason in Hebrew??

[@nyperold7530]

"We're trying to educate you about the right name of God... while stopping short of right because it's what most people who even come sort-of close know!"

[@chrisvossler8795]

"Jehovah" came up in my Religion curriculum (from CPH, even) with the question, "What do these names for Jesus tell us?" The answer I told my students was "'Jehovah' is an English word that means, 'I don't actually know Hebrew.'" Probably not what CPH was going for, but that's what happens when they don't consult a pastor in writing their curriculum!

[@NickHawaii]

Saw your comment. What Bible translation do you recommend?

[@chrisvossler8795]

@@NickHawaii ESV is overall a good translation, as is the 1984 NIV

[@NickHawaii]

@@chrisvossler8795 Good morning Chris. Thanks for telling me. Can I ask how do you feel about. Theophoric names in the ESV and NIV? Names that include God’s Name in it. For example in Matthew 1:8 we see Jehoshaphat. I guess it’s harder to remove God’s Name Jehovah when it is part of another name. LORDshaphat wouldn’t work I guess.

[@NickHawaii]

@@chrisvossler8795 Hey Chris, do you know why for instance the NIV translators didn’t use God’s Name Jehovah? The real reason?

[@chrisvossler8795]

@@NickHawaii The short answer is the one from the video: God's Name isn't "Jehovah"; God's Name is Yahweh ("YHWH" in Hebrew). When vowel pointing was added, the vowel pointing for "Adonai" was used for "YHWH" as a reminder to the reader to read "Adonai" ("Lord") instead of "Yahweh." Following the Jewish/Hebrew custom of not speaking God's Name, English translations have used "LORD" (or "GOD") wherever "YHWH" appears in the text. As far as your other question about names that use elements of God's name in them, it's nothing more or less than following the Hebrew (or the Greek transliteration of the Hebrew). The Jewish people didn't have a problem with using "Ya-" or "-yah" as part of names. (off the top of my head, "Elijah" means "My God is YHWH"; "Jehoshaphat" means "YHWH is judge").

[@turksandwich7538]

There is a JW "church" about 200 yards from my house. They stop by my house quite often, and really aren't interested in discussing what they believe outside of the most basic.

[@friendlyfire7509]

A jw family came to my house/ i witness the gospel to them/ got their number/ went to one of their services out of grace and kindness/never been back/ we text each other now and again

[@turksandwich7538]

I am honestly surprised they let you come. I thought you had to be a member to step foot in their services. Keep at it.

[@kimfleury]

They're basically a pyramid scheme. It's really dirty the way they make members buy the handouts out of their own pockets (profiting the JW publishing houses), and if anyone gives them a donation for the magazines and whatnot, the poor schmucks have to turn the money in as a separate collection -- they can't apply it toward the purchase of more magazines. And they're obligated to buy the magazines, and pass out a minimum number, and make a minimum number of housecalls. They have to keep a log and turn it in. Recruitment is how they work their way up in the organization.

[@jamess7263]

@@kimfleury you don't buy handouts. but things weren't always as they are now: way back in the 70s placements where often sold like a magazine (10 cents for a Watchtower if memory serves). there is no "minimum number" of placement nor "minimum number of housecalls." The only "minimums" are if one wishes to be a "pioneer" and that requires like 80 hours in a month of time doing bible studies or doing "house calls" as you put it. There is a log as you put it (a slip of your time and placements). Recruitment is NOT "how they work their way up."

[@NickHawaii]

@@kimfleury So many false misleading statements you make. Who else is preaching the good news of the kingdom world wide like the witnesses using the Bible??

[@donorush]

My only complaint about this channel is the hellish wait between videos. I need more!

[@NickHawaii]

My complaint is it was just bad. Do you say Jesus? No different. Hebrew is Hebrew. And English is English. We speak English.

[@mrjeffjob]

Consider the wait for them penance to take time off your purgatory. “I said hey mama we’re all Catholics now”

[@BOB_EDC]

Man we need more of these videos!! I use these in my kids bible study. Works amazing!

[@NickHawaii]

Why what this video say that was truthful? Do you say Jesus? Is that how they said it in Hebrew?

[@TheDigitalMissionary]

​@@NickHawaii Yeshua is how they said it in Hebrew. The New Testament was written in Greek and the writers translated the Hebrew name Yeshua to Greek, which is Iesus.

[@NickHawaii]

@@TheDigitalMissionary Correct. And if it’s okay to say names translated in one’s language then it’s okay to say Jesus or Jehovah.

[@TheDigitalMissionary]

@@NickHawaii Yea that's my point, nothing wrong with using Jesus. However, Jehovah is the Latinized version of the artificial name of YaHoWaH. I wouldn't say this is the name of God, neither how to pronounce YHWH.

[@NickHawaii]

@@TheDigitalMissionary I wouldn’t say artificial. Then you would have to say every other name in Hebrew is artificial. Hebrew is Hebrew. English is English. We speak English.

[@jeremycollins9258]

I was just thinking recently how I want more Donall and Conall videos!

[@ericlestick7325]

May Donall and Conall live forever!!!

[@mrjeffjob]

They have a good start. They self identify as fifth century Irish Catholic peasants sooo ….. they’ve been around awhile. 😅

[@chillinlikeaphilin]

"The Church of Cheese and Rice of Latter Day Saints"

[@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098]

As with virtually all of Western Scholasticism, the typical (cradle) Orthodox response would be, "Huh?" My personal response (having been raised with deep respect for God, but outside of a denominational culture) has always been, "but you/someone made that up...?" Which is probably a big factor in how God drew me into Orthodoxy! 😅 Where there aren't a lot of discussions about God's name, but many about His identity... (and, of course, how we relate to Him!) One of the cooler ways we refer to Him is derived from the "I AM": "The Existing One". 🕯☦

[@NickHawaii]

Actually in Hebrew the expressions means “I will prove to be what I will prove to be”.

[@steeevealbright]

Anyway, here's Jiu Jitsu's Wonderwall.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@1stravis]

So Good welcome back please keep them coming !

[@TheConfusername]

"Are you with me so far, Patrick and Second Patrick?" lol

[@jacobgarcia6081]

YES! IVE BEEN WAITING FOREVERRR

[@NickHawaii]

What were you waiting for? How do you say God’s Name??

[@user-bo8yt4uc8b]

Finally :)

[@RJsMashups]

Welcome back!

[@andrerenault]

Jenedict Wonderbatch

[@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098]

Oh -- the BEST!

[@Nokemes1]

Josiah's Winterboots, LOLOLOLOL!

[@markeustace199]

my old religion teacher would have loved this - btw when the Jehovah's witnesses drop by with their copies of "The Tower" I do invite them in for tea.....absolutely surprises them

[@NickHawaii]

I’m one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Let’s pretend we are having tea. What do you say?

[@NickHawaii]

Still waiting for some tea. I’m ready. Let’s start with God’s Name. Do you agree with the twins?

[@LocoFan611]

There are far more fundamental issues to discuss with Jehovah's Witnesses than this, but I thoroughly enjoyed the connecting of the use of Jehovah with those trying to NOT use God's name. All of the alternative JW's were a blast!

[@milinddashinobi6335]

Jemima's waterbeds Jepedo's walruses Josaiah's winterboots Jebrony's wimbledons Jecoby's wilderness Jelopie's wildebeast Jujitsu's wonderwall Jamaica's wickerworks Jumanji's wifflebats

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@NickHawaii]

Mocking God’s Name. Not a good idea

[@johnsmallberries3476]

I can NOT get enough of these two!

[@V3ryan]

Oh my goodness, I lost it at "Assemblies Of Gosh". XD

[@shanedulay2554]

I'm loving the exchange of words.

[@ironchancellor1]

When I clicked on this I read it as "Meet the Jews". Now that would be a video :P

[@goose_2]

Hilarious as usual, glad to see ya back we missed ya

[@zacharyclark5617]

Its been a long time.

[@tobby12347]

I've been waiting for this! Thank you :D

[@DuncanSmith]

Lutheran Satire is back!

[@NickHawaii]

They should do one on the name Jesus then. Is it Omaha to say that name? Hypocrites.

[@Lucas747G]

Finally, I miss these guys!!

[@robertzeurunkl8401]

The Assembly of Gosh! LOL

[@alstepanski3147]

Donall and Conall are the best!!! Need to see much more of them Patrick!!

[@msg4925]

Yeah, Patrick.

[@dylangraham3535]

Best one so far

[@NickHawaii]

What was so good about it?

[@qbzzt]

Actually, the high priest in the temple did pronounce God's name during the Yom Kippur liturgy - so the last Jew to have pronounced it probably died around 70 AD, when the temple was destroyed.

[@bobirving6052]

Ori Pomerantz . Good point, but with a little deeper study you will find his name has been preserved through the centuries. Talmud mentiins the ceremony of transmitting the name to students, and also the vowels are given clearly. Also, some non Rabbinic jews know/use the name even to this day, which is YeHoVaH.

[@david-csmhaltero77]

@@bobirving6052 but no genuine scholar consider this name ; and this ritual was lost shortly after the temple ' destruction, leaving a gap of centuries until vowelisation

[@bobirving6052]

leem 11 Thanks, but this point you make of the vowels being lost, is simply not true. I am not a scholar, but I do listen to them. Here I will point you to a top scholar who shares more than 10 rabbis conveying the name's full vowels through the centuries. He cites Zohar, Talmud, historical works, personal letters and more. Nehemia Gordon 10 rabbis. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5bIcpJ3l8lohM0 Also podcast, Hebrew voices #81 - the origins of Yahweh.

[@david-csmhaltero77]

@@bobirving6052 there are always some folks in communities, like people who define themselves as christians and accept both Jesus and Muhammad ; Gordon's work is heavily debatable on many topics ; in the end I think that if god had really a purpose to make its name known worldwide an undisputable way we wouldn't have ended up in the situation nowadays where anyone has its own interpretation

[@bobirving6052]

leem 11 Thanks for the comment. Check the points Gordon makes and the sources. They are real. The facts matter, but opinions about the scholar's personal life/appearance/religion/etc should Not be what is judged. Truth matters. Nehemia Gordon appears to be the only real scholar working on this topic. He started finding historical sources telling the true vowels, 30 seconds from beginning his research on this project. Why haven't other scholars found this? Because Christian scholars can't/won't/don't care to, and rabbinic scholars don't care to share with the public the secret they know and intentionally keep secret. Please check the facts. Facts are facts an sources are verifiable. Please see what Nehemia actually says before judging. I know it's hard to spend a whole hour, but in my opinion it is an hour well spent.

[@jacob00bell]

Absolutely love your videos! Hope to see more!!!

[@matthaioskober8372]

This is the same group that taught that the arch angel Michael became Jesus and then after the Crucifixion (on a post 🙄) went back to being the arch angel Michael again

[@MiklRngr]

Ah, nice to have you back!

[@Species-rj9si]

Almost no one who is Jewish and speaks Hebrew (like myself) ever converts to Russellism (JWs). The reason, displayed in this vid, is quite obvious.

[@SuzanneBaruch]

True. They rely on (and exploit) Westerners' ignorance of Ivrit, but they cannot do that with us!

[@NickHawaii]

@@SuzanneBaruch So is it wrong to say names according to our language. Like for me to say Jesus? Is that how you would say it in Hebrew? And what Bible do you read in English and recommend? Thanks

[@SuzanneBaruch]

@@NickHawaii it's not at all wrong to say names, but be sure to say them with reverence, remembering Whom you're speaking about. Personally, I never speak the Holy Name (YHVH) out loud, unless I'm in prayer and in a private space; however, this is rare, as I'm more likely to simply call Him "Father." Jesus' Name in Hebrew is Yeshua. This is the Name I use, but I'm not dogmatic about that. If anyone else wants to use another name (Jesus, Isa, etc.) there's nothing wrong with that, nor is it more "holy and proper" to call Him Yeshua. It's simply a cultural thing. I don't use one English translation, I use several in addition to my Bible in Hebrew and a good Greek Interlinear and Lexicon for the NT. However, my favorite English translations are as follows. For the Hebrew Bible: the Tree of Life Version; the ESV; the NKJV; and the NASB. For the NT: all of the above EXCEPT the Tree of Life Version (I have found some grave errors in this translation in the NT; however, a different person translated the Hebrew and Aramaic of the OT, which is why I recommend that.) I hope this helps!

[@NickHawaii]

@@SuzanneBaruch Thanks for your comments. Have some questions. First off, why would you not say God’s Name loud or in everyday speech?

[@SuzanneBaruch]

@@NickHawaii see places such as Exodus 20:7 and Leviticus 22:32.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Ah, I am SOOOO glad you're back!

[@MarcBienenfeld]

One small problem there Patrick, according to you the last Jew to say The Lord's name aloud died before Alexander the great was potty trained yet according to Jewish tradition the High Priest would say the name aloud 5 times every Yom Kippur if i remember right before entering the Holy of Holies. Wouldnt that mean that it would've been pronounced until 70 A.D. When the Temple was destroyed?

[@NickHawaii]

Nowhere is anyone authorized not to use God’s Name or say God’s Name or pluck it out of the scripture.

[@jordanhorne7700]

Yall do this in the most hilarious way possible

[@EphSBGGSO]

Thanks Hans for another great video. Sadly, this is just the tip of the massive iceberg of JW heresy, which includes denying the deity of Christ and writing a bogus translation of the Bible.

[@NickHawaii]

Jehovahs Witnesses do not deny Jesus is divine. And this is just the tip of the iceberg? What Bible translation should I be reading? Can you recommend one to me?

[@JimmySonny]

@@NickHawaii Slick move right there. The original comment said "denying the deity" and then you say "oh, but we don't deny the divinity". Divinity and deity are two different things. Don't play dumb, you're trying to muddle the waters. Anyone else can see how you said "most likely Yehovah" when talking about the name of God, while you cult bases its existance on KNOWING FOR SURE the real name of God. How come you then say "most likely" and not "for sure"?

[@NickHawaii]

@@JimmySonny Show me where do we have ever said what you are parroting? Show me.

[@NickHawaii]

@@JimmySonny I notice you didn’t want to tell me your group of Christians? Why not? We don’t deny Jesus is called THEOS but if you would bring out the full truth you would know and admit we believe that Jehovah is HO THEOS, The God, even of Jesus.

[@NickHawaii]

@@JimmySonny BTW, you should change your approach in talking to others. You’ll never gain anyone that way. Maybe reread 1 Peter 3:15 and actually apply it.

[@Sldejo]

Oh yeah! They are back! 😍

[@cjrjscgallo]

Excellent! (How about Donall & Conall meet the SJWs?)

[@grangermontag1824]

Amen

[@someguyontwitter]

Donall and Conall would be drowned out and wouldn't get the chance to get a single word heard.

[@Bamometha]

PLEEZE NO! I hear evough of their whining and grinding angst already!

[@Bad_Llama]

These videos always make me laugh, Patrick.

[@MrRluvsb]

Just yesterday i was opining the lack of new videos to make fun of stuff while I spew a beverage out of my nose while watching.

[@JS-ue2si]

I'm still trying to understand how there are Irish Lutherans. How many of those actually exist? Like 20?

[@williamgammeter5113]

There are more than 5 million African ones though and they are confessional as all get out!

[@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098]

I know a German Orthodox. 1. He looks exactly like a Lutheran I went to college with. 😏

[@Saint_Magnapinna]

"Pope to-not-catch-a-predator." Amazing. simply amazing.

[@LeviPaladin]

Social Jehovah's Witnesses.

[@jonsolo4776]

Ah, Donnell and Connell. What a breath of fresh air to my theological lungs there, Patrick!

[@NickHawaii]

that air is poison.

[@thomasmazanec9704]

Actually, you are depicting the Jehovah's Witnesses as being far more reasonable then the ones I have encountered. And if I was talking to these two, btw, I would start calling them "Patricia"!

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

[@NickHawaii]

Who resemble first century Christians closer than Jehovah’s Witnesses if not them?

[@NickHawaii]

Who are true Christians today? Please show me

[@ObadiahWanderer]

A friend of mine showed me this channel for the first time today and it’s the best thing I’ve seen in awhile LMAO 😂

[@NickHawaii]

Do you think it’s okay to say Jesus?

[@TheJoeschmoe777]

THEYRE BACK THEYRE BACK THEYREBACKTHEYREBACKTHEYREBACKTHEYREBAAAAACK!!!!! :D

[@NickHawaii]

The video wanted to make fun of how God’s name is pronounced in English. What’s so funny about that??

[@jacobcarpenter3744]

It's been some time, Reverend Fiene! I found your channel via Wretched Ministries. Thine videos are Biblically sound, so thank you!

[@DannyMac100]

Donall and Conall "dissect the deplorable doctrinal declarations"

[@morielrorschach8090]

... also, it's not as if vowels were "specifically excluded from God's name." Vowel pointing didn't exist at all until the Masoretic texts... for any of the words. There are no vowels for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Adam... none of them. We didn't "make up vowels later"... they just weren't recorded until the masoretic vowel pointing system was created. Just like how we have a universal phonetic system now... that doesn't mean no words could be phonetically pronounced before, just that a new system could more explicitly define how things are to be pronounced. Sort of like how, in English I can say "One rough hiccough and I ploughed right through that trough, though." Even native speakers usually struggle with that sentence, but we can work our way through it because we "just know what those words sound like." Even a lot of modern Hebrew books don't bother with vowel points because they're not necessary for native speakers... they make everything look crowded and messy. By the way, we're up to over 2300 Hebrew manuscripts containing the full vowels of the name Yehovah (Jehovah)... and still 0 that support "Yahweh." I'd be interested in seeing why you consider it "your best guess." Because it's nowhere in the text. As far as I recall, there's an 18th century grammarian that introduced that pronunciation based on a Samaritan tradition from a single temple Dedicated to "Father Jowe" ... Jove... Jupiter, Zues.

[@erikritland8184]

Pope To Not Catch a Predator the 75th. Harsh. I’m a believing, practicing Catholic (former Lutheran...) and I haven’t been as hard on Frank the Hippie Pope as you guys have been. But this stuff with the sex abuse is disgusting. Especially since the American media is helping him hide it. The video is hilarious as always, keep posting more regularly.

[@kimfleury]

I'm a revert Catholic, studied and practiced a variety of traditions before returning in 2015. Never idolized the pope, still defend the papacy, and I'm disgusted by his handling of this scandal. I just sigh and remember that our forebears survived the Borgias.

[@bobirving6052]

He is certainly no "god on earth", "vicar of christ", or qualified to interpret scipture, or "correct heretics", or forgive sins. I would say he/papacy more resembles the guy in Is14: 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

[@erikritland8184]

Look up what Catholics actually mean by "vicar of Christ" instead of straw man-ing it. Catholics never claimed he was "god on earth," so I have no idea where you got that from. The Pope also has a hand in correcting heretics, but that is a church-wide thing. Without a Pope or Church, who corrects heretics? Everything you dislike or think is wrong about the Pope or the Church, you thus confer on yourself as ultimate authority. You can say "well I use God's word," and that might be true, but so does the Church and the Pope. You just give yourself ultimate authority of interpretation. By Church teaching, going back to the disciples, Christ gave that to the Church, which is a far stronger authority than each individual. Your Is. quotes are the opposite of the truth. The Pope is meant to be the ultimate servant of all. You have it completely backwards. Instead of assuming the worst about Catholics - as I did when I was a Lutheran as well - visit a site like CatholicAnswers.com so you can at least know what the Church teaches before you attack it. God bless. We're all in this together.

[@bobirving6052]

Erik Ritland. You didn't mention the forgiving sins part for some reason, or the antichrist who's description sounds just like what the pope is. Maybe because forgiving sins against God is only something God(not pope) can do. Acts5:31 Him did God exalt with his right hand 'to be' a Prince and a Saviour, to give repentance to Israel, and remission of sins. I do know what "vicar of Christ" means. It is "in place of Christ". Why does he need replaced when he sits at the right hand of the father? Of course I am in charge of my interpretation of scripture NOT under the authority of a false shepherd. Phil2:12 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling; Are you unhappy that people like me have access to the scriptures? In our recent history your "church" was in power and wouldn't allow that, even to kill any who did have a bible. Admit this please. John16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you shall think that he offereth service unto God. Does the "church" think they are serving God by correcting heretics until death?

[@erikritland8184]

@@bobirving6052 Once you start the whole "Pope is the anti-Christ" bit, you lose me. Adults don't say things like that. The Catholic Church never suppressed the Bible. Look into a single source that you disagree with, that doesn't spoon feed you answers that you already wanted to believe. No scholar, Catholic or otherwise, believes that slanderous, anti-Catholic BS anymore.

[@michaelmorris6575]

That was great! Thank you

[@Bob_Squared23]

1:08 no one expects the Pope lol

[@John-Adams]

Except for the buttholes of Vatican altar boys.

[@GogakuOtaku]

“That’s more ironic than rain on your wedding day, Patrick.” I just about died 😂😂😂 Also love how he immediately pointed out that that’s not ironic at all.

[@EdThePastor]

The Assembly of Gosh. Hehe

[@buckweezer]

Thank you for making awesome videos. Donall and Conall are the best.

[@athena2483]

i"m not JW but i have JW friends and i've never heard them say that Jehovah is the only way you can say God's name, I've heard them use Yahweh before and they dont even say that saying "The Lord" is bad, just that it's a LXX change. How about you make a video about their actual main points like their unitarianism.

[@johnmcafee6140]

It often depends on the JW. I talked to one a few years ago who insisted that the "Y" in Yahweh was pronounced like a "J". Others I have talked to haven't been so adamant but they do get uncomfortable with that topic. I have personally never had one concede that "Yahweh" was in the realm of possibility. That being said, I'm with you. A video dealing with the JWs unitarianism or their denial of the divinity of Jesus would be more helpful.

[@user-nc2mu4im5u]

Jehovah's Witnesses accept the divinity of Jesus. The thing they don't accept is that Jesus is equal to His Father (John 14:28) Please get your sources right.

[@standev1]

JWs blasphemously claim that Jesus is not God, but a creature, and that Jesus and Michael the Archangel are the same person.

[@johnmcafee6140]

@@user-nc2mu4im5u Sorry, I just misspoke. I wrote the word "divinity" but I meant to say deity.

[@uriah4901]

@Servus, JW's or AKA Jalopies Wildebeest, do not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ while on earth. They would acknowledge his god, little g, status before his virgin birth and after his ascension to heaven. Just a wee willie difference as the boys would say. But seriously, a hugh departure from Orthodox Christianity understanding. Or as the boys would say: Thats Arianish Patrick! wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1961681