Horus Reads the Internet

Horus is ready to discredit the Christian faith again, this time armed with some devastating information courtesy of your 19 year old atheist cousin's blog.

[@robertfreid2879]

"Is Horus in those books?" "No." "THEN THEY BORE ME!"

[@XBLspartanx170]

every atheist troll ever.

[@lanadoesathing]

Don't you mean... "ZEN ZEY BORE ME!"

[@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604]

That jumpscared me

[@thesaroscycle_archive]

@@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604 Me too

[@NAATHAAN]

Actual Horus: what in the name of ra is a *book*

[@inkdragon155]

So the real question is... Why does the Egyptian god have a German accent.

[@dylanbiggs3997]

inkdragon155 The idea that Jesus was a pagan copy cat food was the brain child of Liberal Theologians and Liberal new Testament scholarship in Germany.

[@jerryjajah]

Real answer.... Hitler😂😂 just kidding.....

[@deeznutz8076]

The answer is anti-Semitism

[@wmperkins25]

@@dylanbiggs3997 good answer !!

[@Meshakhad]

Because it was actually Loki trolling.

[@johnhooyer3101]

I really like that spiel at the end. Seriously, this faith has been around for 2000 years. There are people who dedicate their life to understanding this stuff. You can't make presumptions about the depths of a Christian argument. Yeah, there are Christians who don't spend much time understanding their faith. It's easy to go toe-to-toe with them. Try going up against St. Augustine, or anyone who substantially developed the canon of Christian theology. It's a different story. There are entire libraries on the faith for a reason.

[@jonathandoe1367]

Yeah, that's what great about the Councils and Patristics. You can see arguments made by people who actually studied theology, and were some of the most brilliant thinkers of their day. It can get pretty amazing.

[@cameronbargerbos7411]

i think we need a st Patrick / Horus cross-over episode...

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

How about a Donnal and Connal/ Horus crossover?

[@danielledunsworth9229]

Lol that would be a comedy pot of gold!

[@comichound]

Well, today is your day!

[@mikemadger63]

Absolutely

[@timmytheimpaler]

Frank the hippie pope & horus

[@kuyperianberean]

“Rise Peter, kill and eat.” “...my name is Horus.”

[@E4439Qv5]

Yes Patrick, very astute.

[@rosswalenciak3739]

Preacher Man was talking to his friend peter who was still sitting in the pew.

[@solidonseraindogthetenth1679]

@@rosswalenciak3739 Oh boy.

[@hellsunicorn]

This is a perfect sum up of every discussion I’ve had with a New Atheist online since 2006.

[@Jamesmatise]

"But bacon and shellfish!" ...Ugh...

[@hellsunicorn]

@@Jamesmatise Oh don’t be boring, there’s nothing like a good soft shell crab and bacon sandwich. And yes, I grew up in Maryland. 😛

[@duckmeat4674]

@@hellsunicorn but what about mixed fabrics?/?/111//!!

[@RS54321]

@@hellsunicorn Mmmmmm

[@RS54321]

@@duckmeat4674 😝🤣🤣😵‍💫

[@ogmakefirefiregood]

All evil has a German accent. See Mr. Klaus with the World Economic Forum.

[@kajadaw4313]

You will eat ze bug, you will live in ze pod, you will own nothing, and you will be happy

[@Xgy33]

I’ve been studying apologetics for 2 years and this video resumed and taught the law better than all the books I’ve read on the subject. PS I’m a messianic Christian so that should hint people how accurate this video is! Nice! 👍

[@promethium-145]

Congrats! I'm still agnostic on these matters, but I definitely don't align myself with internet atheism lol.

[@Hissatsu5]

@Ewok Crowe not he is a Jew by identity culture but believes in the risen lord Jesus

[@Hissatsu5]

@Ewok Crowe yes they recognize Christ as the Messiah but enjoy their inherited cultural and traditions

[@AyshKing]

@@Hissatsu5 They enjoy sin :)

[@AyshKing]

@Ewok Crowe It's as far from a cult as you can get... JW Mormons 7th Day Fake Jews Those are cults

[@Outrider74]

there need to be a horus meets donall and connall

[@kristiannanye2750]

YES!!!

[@pleromafamily628]

That would be epic

[@BOB_EDC]

YES!!!!!

[@menslady125eif2590]

"Okay, Patrick, tell us about yourself." "Yeah, Patrick, we're sociable folks." "Vat do you mean 'Patrick'? I am Horus, ze Egyptian god of ze sun. Vhy you so dense?"

[@RS54321]

They would roast him!!

[@Simul]

Yup. The old "cherry-picking Leviticus" argument is a classic example of a composition/division fallacy, wherein it is assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all, or other parts of it.

[@danielhagopian5150]

Wish list for Easter, 2017: Horus doing a bit on how Easter is really a knock-off of Ishtar, the Babylonian fertility goddess. "How 'bout it, preacher mannn?"

[@NexusZ97]

Your vish has been granted kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKC1l5uhhKahoJI

[@zr3755]

Easter 2023-your wish has been granted

[@danielhagopian5150]

Excellent!!

[@MultiSplish]

Horus is a German?!

[@travisjohnson6676]

+MultiSplish Ya

[@5winder]

+MultiSplish A gay German.

[@aaroncarlson1162]

+Travis Johnson "jä"

[@travisjohnson6676]

Aaron Carlson point taken :)

[@Dracopol]

Listening to a German effeminate for 5 minutes makes me wish Mike Myers had done a Dieter movie (from "Sprockets") instead of a Wayne's World movie, amirite?

[@tonythegeek]

Horus' voice, no matter what he says, is hilarious! -- Anyone...? :'D

[@baguette1117]

Yes. I agree strongly.

[@Mila-ie5bw]

tony the geek hahahaha!!! When he said "your recent potlucking...." is sooo funny

[@Dracopol]

Listening to a German effeminate for 5 minutes makes me wish Mike Myers had done a Dieter movie (from "Sprockets") instead of a Wayne's World movie, amirite?

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

Yes.

[@ElficGuy]

Pegasus

[@michaelkelleypoetry]

PASTOR: "That is the worst song I have ever heard." HORUS: "So says the preacher-man who just led his congregation in singing 'Forgive us, Lord, for shallow thankfulness.'" PASTOR: "Okay, that's the second worst song I've ever heard." 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@199NickYT]

You have no idea how many times I've shared this video with people online. It's incredibly helpful, thank you SO MUCH for collapsing all this information into a helpful video!

[@christopherjohnson1873]

These people don't care about reason, they just care about having a rhetorically effective ten second soundbyte to nail Christians with.

[@user255]

And yet the video is just empty rhetorics. Who decides whether the law is ceremonial or moral? Which one is Deuteronomy 13:12-18 and why?

[@christopherjohnson1873]

user255 Seems like a simple enough concept.

[@user255]

Christopher Johnson So, then answer the question.

[@MrManwookie]

Laws that distinguish Israel as a nation are no longer applicable. Ceremonial laws are these laws-circumcision, food laws, clothing laws. These laws are clearly meant to define Israelite culture and distinguish them from the pagans. Civil laws are laws dealing with the political life of Israel- so penalties for crime, rules for the monarchy. Moral laws are reaffirmed as still binding today (do not steal, do not kill, don't me a moron, etc). These are binding for everyone, not just Israel as a nation.

[@MrManwookie]

Deuteronomy 13 is part of the civil law-Israel's life as a political body. Under the old covenant, Israel acted as the instrument of God's wrath on the Canaanite nation. Because the church is not a political body, and because this applied to Israel only with respect to the Canaanites only, it is not applicable. Israel's role under the old covenant was fulfilled when the Messiah came-thus the purpose of the Old covenant was fulfilled, and no longer applies.

[@mrumueller]

take a look at this very slickly produced venn-diagram....gotta love it

[@douglassedivy9296]

Well I'm offended. Gobots were decidedly not better than Transformers.

[@TheLutheranSatire]

Heretic!

[@KamisamanoOtaku]

Transformers own Gobots. *Literally*. Hasbro owns Gobots. While the original toy molds still belong to other companies (like Transformers first few waves, the molds were all from other toy lines) and (sadly) the animation rights to the Gobots cartoon, the rest belongs to Hasbro/Takara... though because of complications, they are very careful when using new molds to represent Gobot characters. It does get complicated due to a combination of strange IP laws and the concern to avoid lawsuits (even unfounded ones).

[@jacfalcon]

Transformers was absolutely and verifiably a rip-off of Gobots.

[@henryjordan2152]

What’s Gobots

[@dugroz]

Here I thought Go-bots were generic Transformers ...

[@thecngent9724]

Thank you kindly for making this video. While I am generally Bible-Literate, my knowledge doesn't expand much outside the Gospels, the Letters of Paul, Genesis, Exodus, and the Prophets (Give me a break, I'm only 15). I've seen SO many people argue about how we Christians cherry-pick the Bible because we exclude what I NOW know to be the Ceremonial Law, and I've never been able to counter their statements very well. Once again, thanks.

[@peacebyjesus2388]

The Bible does manifest a separation btwn moral laws which deal with basic human behavior, which are universally applicable to all peoples at all times from the time there were given (adultery is sin in any culture), as well as culturally applied codes which are based on the moral law (though shalt not murder=innocent live is sacred =build a fence around your [flat] roof [Dt. 22:8]) as well as ceremonial laws. The NT clearly makes a distinction btwn transcendent moral laws, reiteration 9 out of the 10 commandments for instance, and that of typological ceremonial laws under the prophesied (Jer. 31:31-34) new covenant, which related to diet, liturgical days, and temple ordinances (pork and Gentiles were unsanctified, illustrating what sin does). Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Hebrews 9:10) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17) But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? (Galatians 4:9) However, the moral laws are reinforced and magnified, so that adultery is not simply the act, but lusting after another man's wife. And a true believer is one whose saving faith effects characteristic obedience to Christ, including repentance when convicted of not doing so. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28)

[@awhodothey]

+Peaceby Jesus How come god instructed the israelites to make slaves? Slavery wasn't immoral? Or it isn't now?

[@1001011011010]

Slavery was permissible in the fallen world but not wanted. He made laws concerning slavery, as they were to do it; it was not desirable but permissable in the fallen world. Note it's not chattel slavery but mostly bond servants.

[@awhodothey]

***** That perspective is not biblical. Slavery was not only permissible, but god explicitly commanded it. Read Deut. 20. God commanded his followers to kill entire people groups for the simple reason that they did not worship him, unless they surrender without a fight. "[T]hen all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you."

[@peacebyjesus2388]

Sorry for not seeing this, but "kill entire people groups for the simple reason that they did not worship him" is not true, as well as exhibiting a very superficial understanding of why idolatry is wrong. God actually never destroyed kill entire people groups simply bcz they did not worship him, but because of the effects of that idolatry, which was gross long term iniquity, contrary to what they had known to be true. "for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: (Leviticus 18:24) The Bible actually shows relatively moral pagans in a relatively good light (though all are sinners in need of salvation).. I dare say that if idolatry required and produced the holiness that true worship of God does then God would be for it. However, what you worship will order your life, and created things will fail or mislead us, while only God is perfect and never able to fail you, thus it is only right and best for man that God calls all men to repent and worship Him. And enables us to do thru His own Divine Son, the risen Lord Jesus!.

[@venkatdeep7357]

Great work. Very informative and entertaining, both at a time. Thanks to the LORD for enabling the spirit filled knowledge in Hans Fiene and Mathew Carver. You guys rock. I will share this among my friends and I will pray for you guys. Let the videos rolling

[@bosstoober8782]

Also worth noting that Jesus himself declares all foods clean when he says "it is not what goes into your mouth which defiles you"

[@andrewscotteames4718]

Giving Horus a Nordic accent like Loki is super meta

[@celiselott]

Bacon fried labradoodle. Nearly spit out my coffee. Haha!

[@TTTristan1]

I prefer dachshund :3

[@exedon]

Exactly my reaction

[@baguette1117]

+Tristan Taylor I own a dachshund mix! *offended squeak*

[@TTTristan1]

Gracenotes Novel I guess this is a bad time to mention that I too own a dachshund :3 Swear I haven't eaten him though. He would give me a heart attack with all his blubber.

[@baguette1117]

Good.

[@bruceburns405]

Well done, Pastor! That was a great review of ceremonial and moral laws. The better the teaching, it seems, the more furious the frenzy of outrageous statements in the comments, which is a little sad because one or two honest questions just got buried in recycled horse fodder.

[@dovehart90]

This is great, as someone who just finished Leviticus I was wondering how the cerimonial laws and moral laws applied to different things. This sums it up nicely.

[@bruceburns405]

Katie Malbraaten Way to go Katie! It seems like a long boring slog through Leviticus (though there are some fascinating nuggets), but it really helps in the New Testament when Jesus and the Pharisees start arguing law and gospel!

[@Loehengrin]

Bruce Burns Long boring slog? it just gets funnier every time i read it

[@bruceburns405]

Um, well, I guess I never thought of Leviticus as particularly amusing, but whatever ties your knot...

[@LukeL007]

I have had the Horus song in my head for the past couple of days. It has a certain 80s sitcom feel to it.

[@Jamesmatise]

I used to have it as an alarm on my phone.

[@helenj.2065]

Been missing Lutheran Satire! Glad you are back!

[@Sunberries84]

I demand a music video for the Horus theme song!

[@DavidBetz00]

Now I need to try some bacon-wrapped scallops. Sounds good. Bacon-wrapped labradoodle? Not so much.

[@williamfroh8830]

Be brave try the ladaddol LOL do you know if Lutheran satire. Has any new content 2018

[@xXxannihilaterxXx101]

You perfectly summed up the large portion of what I encounter regularly. They love to quote the Old Testament, but fail to even understand the exegesis of Old Testament scripture, let along the hermeneutics. Also they take the liberty of trying to quote Narrative History as though every single verse is a moral principle and everything people in the old testament did was things we should. It's laughable.

[@tauronmitronion377]

I like the very slickly produced Venn diagram.

[@inhisimage627]

Brilliant analysis of Scripture. I'd understood the concept, but couldn't put it into the words to beautifully to explain it to anyone before now.

[@rorshakks]

Literally one of the best videos ever. Sad thing is, you could say this verbatim to a scoffer and they still wouldn't understand it.

[@RS54321]

Yes!!

[@TheBlackToedOne]

Because they don't want to.

[@zacarius7417]

I want Horas' theme on itunes!

[@Meshakhad]

I've never heard this concept before. Thank you for explaining it. I mean, the whole notion of abandoning even part of the Mosaic code still rubs me the wrong way (which is part of why I'm Jewish and not Christian), but at least I now know that Christianity has a consistent reasoning on the subject.

[@samuelbarham8483]

It's one of several fairly carefully-reasoned interpretations -- and probably the most common. Remember (as you know, I'm sure!) that the first Christian theologians were either predominantly Jews (some of them highly-educated pharisees!), or trained by highly-educated Jews. :) And I agree, very well laid out!

[@InvaderQuirk]

This is an explanation of one view. It is not representative of all Christians.

[@danielmaher964]

It's a fantastic articulation of the best argument for eating unclean meat. I love this channel. But it still applies Peter's vision literally when Scripture applies it figuratively. So it's at least partly wrong, but oh so well articulated.

[@thelandofsmyth]

You guys are HILARIOUS! I wish us Orthodox would do some of this amazing satire. I mean, I've not laughed this hard in a hell of a long time.

[@EVillager]

I’m revisiting this video nine years later. It’s still very funny, fresh and accessible.

[@phantimon6175]

5:24 see: anyone who has ever said "I'm an athiest because I've actually read the bible"

[@Shermanpuppy]

I never had a satisfying explanation of this issue before. Thanks guys!

[@Michiganman800]

7 people don't ever read the Bible, but they sure have a lot of opinions about it.

[@BasiliscBaz]

Why that horus sound like hes about to call me monke and wanna destroy my planet

[@joecoolmccall]

As much as this is comedy...I often return to this video when thinking of how to explain this issue to friends of mine.

[@iain5615]

Beautifully summarised. It took me a couple of years to reach that conclusion of trying to reconcile Jesus' moral law (a fulfillment of the ten commandments) with Leviticus.

[@BATTY3459]

Ah yes, the ancient Egyptian "god" Horus speaks with a German accent.

[@grovercleavland2698]

I think the Bible in a year with Fr Mike Schmidt went over this as well. But this is a pretty good summarization. Thanks for this!

[@derekjohnson3096]

REJOICE! Lutheran Satire has returned! Good to see more videos pastor Fiene.

[@davidrichmond1953]

I can't get over the fact that Horus is speaking in a totally German accent, even going so far as to use 'und' in place of 'and'. This series really is hilarious.

[@gwalchgwynwlisc1706]

can we talk about 5:39? "including the very men who wrote the BiiIIible"

[@22moonpie]

I love how Horus says “mumbo jumbo” & pot luckings” 😂

[@jrc99us]

It's been 5 years and I'm STILL linking this vid to the Horus-type ignorance. 😊

[@jrc99us]

@GG GG No because young adults, even teenagers are being told to accept society's fickle decisions of "right and wrong" and not to carefully examine why something is considered right and wrong and why it is ultimately right or wrong?

[@MayBeSomething]

Has anyone tried looking that website up? I tried, once, and got nothing, but I may have also scuffed something in the german accent. Great work! I WILL use this whenever someone asks!

[@GreenSlugg]

Not as good as the other Horus video, but I really want more Horus. I can help you guys to write another Horus video if you like.

[@BenjaminWirtz]

Donall and Conall meet Horus.

[@GreenSlugg]

***** HA!

[@vaughanlloydjones3884]

I love that LS chose seedy German with a beer gut for their false teacher voice.

[@Antnj81]

Z E N Z A Y *B O R R R R E* M E

[@LetsReadPodcast]

Superb.

[@renaemiller8986]

i started busting out laughing when he started saying the website

[@standswithfist806]

all I want for Christmas is more of your videos.....well and peace on earth....I can't even spell apolagetticks...it is really a blessing to send someone to your channel for an explanation of some doctrinal question....Sometimes instead, I just yell at em while shouting Matt 10:14 .. ..Thank you!!!...fantastic stuff...this is one of your gifts...

[@arnie365]

This is presented very well . Keep it up .

[@jackthebear1976]

GoBots better than Transfomers? You must be shrooming! Awesome content, by the way! Thanks for the laughs, and bringing a whole lot of information to light!

[@ronomasd]

I have just recently found this channel and I absolutely love it! The Horus videos included. But there is just one thing that erks me every time that is just a small detail but, Horus is not the Egyptian god of the sun...that is Ra.

[@Jake123557]

I think that's part of the joke.

[@awhodothey]

Is it also part of the joke that Exodus 19 is used to define ceremonial law, but actually describe the 10 commandments, which are labeled moral law in this video?

[@BenjaminWirtz]

Blame the Zeitgeist people. The first Horus video was made in response to them an they were the ones claiming he was the Egyptian sun God.

[@annalise9910]

I think he became the god of the sun after Ra retired...

[@coreykirby1632]

@@awhodothey which was also part of the ceremonial law if you watched the video with certain things the moral and ceremonial law are interchangeable

[@CrimsonSlytherin]

This was the best explanation I’ve heard yet!!! Thank you so much!

[@Nebukanezzer]

If Horus literally showed up in the middle of a church and started talking to me, do you honestly expect me to not worship him instead?

[@sethpolley7999]

You only worship what you see?

[@jellyfish0311]

Alternatively, you could try defeating him with a snake-rod

[@Savedbygrace22]

How incredibly funny and helpful! Love LS

[@luisfck2119]

Good stuff lol, got here from FB Catholic Memes

[@haley9976]

"Zen zey BORE meeee" gets me every time

[@Jen-di2pm]

*Bacon-fried* _(yum... I'm with you, so far...)_ *Labradoodle* _(nooooo... why?!?)_ Very clever, tho! Thank you!

[@dcs315]

Would it be better to describe this as "Natural Law" and not "moral law?" I say this because people like to say that the Law of Moses is split between the moral, civil, and ceremonial laws, the latter two of which no longer apply. Whereas, Christ fulfilled ALL of the Law of Moses, not just the civil and ceremonial portions, we Christians are freed from those things. But God's Natural Law remains, the law written upon our hearts, and yes, explained in the Old Testament, although the Law of Moses is not a summation of Natural Law. Thoughts? Thank you.

[@nobobonobo]

as a follower of Horus, I'm offended

[@setfiretothecommunistscomm4202]

Good

[@coolboy5428]

@@setfiretothecommunistscomm4202 You are a homosexual.

[@warriorworkstraining]

I love that Horus has a German accent.

[@zenowing]

4:01 Haha. Petarded you on your own hoisting!

[@SwordsMaster7.]

Bacon wrapped scallops, how have I never thought of this before. That sounds so good. Also, I just recently found your channel and it's great! Danke!

[@thomasmiller386]

I love how the preacher man talks to Horus like he wants him to be saved. Am I the only one who wishes there could be some kind of moving conversion video? I get that that is completely impossible with Biblical theology, but you can hear the preacher wanting Horus to get saved, at least from my perspective.

[@AndyZach]

Horus has got to meet Donel and Conel.

[@menslady125eif2590]

How I wish! Donnel: Okay, Patrick. Tell us a bit about yourself. Connel: Yeah, Patrick. We're sociable folks. Horus: Vhy did you just call me "Patrick"? Zat is not my name. I am Horus, ze Egyptian god of ze sun, and you really ought to vorship ME. Donnel: And why would be wantin' to do that, Patrick? Connel: Yeah, Patrick. Do be kind as to fill us in on that.

[@PhilHoffmanReviews]

This is gold!!!!

[@MSOGameShow]

Love how Horus has what sounds like a German accent (I'm pretty sure he said "und" a few times).

[@pixleprincess9424]

"Rise Peter, kill and eat" ... "My name is Horus"

[@kristiannanye2750]

5:11-5:41 Ouch. As a Catholic, I commend you for finding a new method to talk about your Faith. I have laughed my head off with these videos, especially the Conall and Donall videos. Keep up the great work!

[@joelwalden5504]

Hysterical, and brilliant!! Also, bacon wrapped labradoodle... ROFL!

[@embeevee7-168]

How I wish every atheist is as responsive as Horus

[@jred7]

I really enjoy your work, but where do you get this Moral Law/Ceremonial Law dualism from? Other Christians have said the same thing to me, but I have yet to see where in the Bible this is explained. I am a Christian, I don't eat pork or shellfish (G-d called it an abomination), and I am sabbatarian. I don't boast about it, because it's not hard (Moses said so), but primarily because my salvation comes through Jesus Christ who took the penalty for when I had failed to keep G-d's commandments.

[@nathanyamaha465]

jred7 Jesus is our Sabbath, "I will give you rest." The Sabbath is not a day, the day appointed in the Law looked forward to Jesus. Also, on what day did Jesus rest from His work of salvation? On the Sabbath. Therefore, Jesus fulfills the Sabbath. The work is done.

[@ShouVertica]

+nathanyamaha465 That's a pretty big leap you took there. Only wish it was clearly outlined in the bible instead of what is basically "connect the dots" thinking akin to conspiracy theory.....

[@jred7]

ShouVertica I concur. nathanyamaha465 see Exodus 31:12-14 and Exodus 20:8-11. If Jesus changed this, He would not be G-d, since He would be contradicting G-d, and He certainly would not be the Messiah.

[@cbuggy]

+jred7 How do you feel about the fact that Jesus "declared all food clean..." ?

[@ShouVertica]

bill I'm more upset that had jesus simply instructed *simple* sanitary procedures/precautions, *billions* of lives could have been saved and our society could have been hundreds of years in the future.

[@harringt100]

Bacon wrapped scallops at a potluck AND a snarky pastor? Can I join this church? (Do I have to swear I believe in consubstantiation and baptismal regeneration, because I don't think I do...)

[@sabinal17]

I know right? there is no way we’d have bacon wrapped scallops at our church. too expensive.

[@RenneAtha]

Why does Horus have a fake German accent? xDDD (It is hilarious, but I was wondering.)

[@Jake123557]

The idea that Jesus is just a copy of Horus (if you have watched the original Horus video on this channel: 'Horus ruins Christmas'), originally stems from liberal theologians in Germany in the 1800s. So I'm guessing it's a reference to that.

[@RenneAtha]

Ohhh cool, that makes sense. :) Yep I've watched the other Horus video (along with most of the videos on this channel) - I'm pretty sure Horus and the unfazed pastor are my favourite Lutheran Satire characters. :D

[@Jake123557]

Agreed! It's hilarious!

[@jaojmnhzhzm]

"Gobots were better than Transformers"??? No. This is Heresy.

[@JasonJrake]

😂 “Homosexualisms” 😂 “petarded you on your own hoistings” !!!!!! I’m dead 😵.

[@SweatMusicProduction]

How convenient.

[@501CaptainRex.]

Thank you! I've been trying to say this, but was very unorganized until now.

[@livjackson8734]

Why is Horus German, lol ??

[@5winder]

+Liv Jackson The Nazis time traveled to Egypt?

[@tintinismybelgian]

+Liv Jackson Probably because it would be considered "racist" if he tried to do an Egyptian accent... And because German accents are the funniest accents.

[@tomthx5804]

Because he and Cardinal Kasper are the same person

[@colleen1103]

Fabulous! hilarious and well produced!

[@kat-br5kw]

Come on guys, I'm Christian, but Neil DeGrass Tyson is my homeboy.

[@mike-cc3dd]

Pink Lizards name here* you need new homeboys

[@Siamesemama1]

Just found Lutheran Satire. Love it. Love Yeshua too-woke up 8 years ago to Truth. But I do struggle w the "homosexual teachings" in both old & new Testaments. Knowing (as a hetero woman) many good gay people, I do believe "they were born that way". I also believe that both Moses & Paul were saying "don't CHOOSE to lay w same sex cuz "everybody is doing it". Mr. Fienes, can you please address this? If I'm in error, (I worry about that), I'm willing to stand corrected. Thank you.

[@user255]

That is nothing but rationalizing the cherry picking. Tell me who decides which laws are ceremonial laws and which are moral laws? The Bible doesn't make the distinction, instead they are "interpreted".

[@user255]

***** Where you are referring to exactly?

[@GermanFreakvb21]

Have you done your research on the moral law - ceremonial law distinction to say that it's cherry picking? Or do you just feel that way? Sounds to me as if you're acting like this cartoon is the first to introduce this idea.

[@user255]

​@@GermanFreakvb21 2 Timothy 3:16 _"All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right."_

[@GermanFreakvb21]

@@user255 Yes. So? ALL scripture is inspired, which is why you have to look at all passages in context and in relation to each other. It also helps to look at how Christians understood them throughout the ages. And then you see in Acts 10: "Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." Jesus uses the same wording himself. He also worked on the sabbath and he let his disciples gather corn on the sabbath. This coupled with the fact that Christ himself told us that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfil it. What does "fulfilment of the law" mean? Does it mean that the law is gone? No. Paul states that we are still under the law These different points have historically been put into context and were logically explained by christian to mean that the moral law is still active, but the ceremonial law isn´t as such. Sometimes the ceremonial law is described as the mosaic covenant. Circumcision, the priesthood of Aaron, the sacrifices, Sabbath, dietary laws. All of these were part of the mosaic covenant. The moral law has always been true. God instituted it in the beginning of time. The ceremonial law he instituted with Abraham regarding Circumcison and with Moses regarding the rest. Now at the evening before his crucifiction he took the cup and told his disciples "Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." What is another word for "testament"? It´s "covenant". Christ´s establishment of the twelve disciples, his establishment of a new covenant, his establishment of baptism to replace circumcision, his sacrifice to replace the sacrificial lamb of the old covenant. All of Christ´s doing was the fulfillment of the law and the replacement of the old covenant with a new one. A new priesthood, even new believers. Now any believer is baptised into God´s family. There is neither jew nor gentile. I think the Bible and Christian history makes no sense without the distinction of moral and ceremonial law.

[@user255]

@@GermanFreakvb21 Yes, there are contradictions like that. Show me where in the Bible there is distinction made between ceremonial law and moral law. I understand that is your attempt to make sense to it, but it is not there.

[@ChooseCarefully]

I love this! Good job.... I love Horus. I am pretty sure I have talked to him online.....

[@Toudeusz]

ok, what's immoral in homosexual relationships?

[@dlwatib]

Nothing, as long as they remain chaste. But then that's not what you meant by a homosexual relationship, now is it? You meant a relationship that included sodomy and fellatio and a whole bunch of other degrading sexual acts didn't you?

[@Ryder.Draconis]

dlwatib My best conclusion is that homosexuality is a perversion of God intended of sex and marriage. God made these to be a very special union between man and woman. Then we go and mess it up and God gets annoyed. Kind of like throwing a football through a basketball hoop. It just wasn't made for that purpose. No, being gay doesn't hurt anyone, but that's the secular argument for it. Being religious and wanting something that God wants for the sole reason that God is awesome is a whole separate argument entirely.

[@Ioganstone]

GodAloneBeTheGlory Why don't you want a theocracy?

[@christianfaux736]

Holy crap, that was a great way to put that!

[@disrxt]

Rationalizations for bigotry. What else is apologetics for but to condone hate?

[@theIndy0678]

I agree, Atheist apologetics is solely a rationalization for bigotry against Christians.

[@andyderksen8455]

Frank: So, in other words . . . you're exactly the type of atheist/skeptic portrayed by the Horus cartoon. The "pastor" character gave a rather extensive explanation demonstrating the different parts of Scripture and how they function together as a unit to furnish us with Christian theology - and you blithely dismiss all that by labeling it a "rationalization"? On the one hand, part of me wants to argue with you by saying: Point out where the "pastor" misinterpreted any part of Scripture. On the other hand, I'm reminded that you, Frank, are actually mentioned in Scripture - by Jesus himself, in fact! Did you know that? He refers to you in this verse: "Don’t waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you." (Matthew 7:6) Hopefully you'll perceive that you've just exhibited precisely this behaviour. Therefore those of us who know Christ are under no obligation to waste our breath arguing with you. And yet this doesn't negate the fact that we long for your salvation and hope to see you in heaven one day.

[@johnchristianpreus]

Frank, you're really good at listening. Thanks for the insight.

[@BobPataki]

Frank, since it seems so very obvious to you that the defense of the Christian faith is merely for condoning alleged "hate" from Christianity, please tell me, where is there *any* sign of encouragement or empowerment to hate, whether from Christ or any of the apostles? There is literally none whatsoever; you will find no "hate" being preached from Christ, nor the early Church. And to assume that a moral stance against a behavior implies "hate" is fallacious, dishonest and unfair. Christians are commanded (no matter how much we suck at carrying it out), due to Christ's mercy and love expressed toward us, to "love thy neighbor as ourselves" (Mark 12), "to love and pray for our enemies" (Matt. 5), and much more along those lines, which you will find consistently taught by Christ and His apostles through the scriptures. Even with those who actively live in sin against God, or sin against us, God warns us about taking justice into our own hands (e.g. Romans 12, Leviticus 19), because He is the Judge. Thus, even as we talk of what God views as sinful, we are not to condemn anyone for their sin, for we'd have to condemn ourselves first (we aren't any more perfect) - but that does not mean we aren't also responsible to hold each other accountable within the Church (e.g. Matt. 7:1-5). Christ certainly did not ignore the sin of sinners...indeed He acknowledged the sin, but He chose not to condemn, but to forgive (e.g. John 8:1-11). The Church is called to do the same, and leave the judgement to God.

[@dylancarey4000]

*tips fedora*

[@stev0withazer078]

That makes SO much more sense now! Thank you so much for this vid!

[@__.Sara.__]

😂 This was actually a great break down of this issue!

[@multiwebinc]

Wouldn't that also mean you're also free from the ceremonial law of having to dress like a catholic priest?

[@matthewschultz7390]

There's actually a lot of debate on the clean food thing. I'm not going to weigh in because I'm sort of afraid I might end up preaching a false gospel.

[@christinew1644]

"Petarded you on your own hoistings"

[@MrFunkhouser]

How would one go about getting the Horus theme song for a ringtone?