The Greatest Move in Chess History - Or So They Say

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@ownagesniper1
@ownagesniper1 5 жыл бұрын
This guy goes so deep into the hypothetical situations that i forget lol
@nicolasfranco9749
@nicolasfranco9749 5 жыл бұрын
Mark lmao!! Same
@fletchercalderbank8498
@fletchercalderbank8498 5 жыл бұрын
Mark It stays in the hypothetical line for so long that I actually think its the real line
@imnotabotrlyimnot
@imnotabotrlyimnot 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when he finally gets back to the actual game it makes me feel like I do when I'm driving and realize I've been day dreaming for the last five miles.
@colingraham1585
@colingraham1585 4 жыл бұрын
Like giving us a couple of questions to decide whether or not we want to pause the video lol
@yanousse3217
@yanousse3217 4 жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@gabrielesimionato1210
@gabrielesimionato1210 5 жыл бұрын
10:30 "this is the greatest move of all times, I'll give you a couple of seconds to find out" Wow, you really have a great opinion about your followers!
@sebaba001
@sebaba001 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha seriously. But it's more about average. If everyone is trying to think of a "creative move", 800k people doing it, someone is gonna get it right.
@Wilton24
@Wilton24 5 жыл бұрын
You can pause the video if you want 😒
@insearchofpeace2151
@insearchofpeace2151 5 жыл бұрын
One of Agad's very common points in his chess videos is that doubling up pawns is bad. So following Agad's saying and also Agad's implication that Topalov isn't very bright in this game, I guessed the move correctly. I figured that after the Bishop to h3, Topalov would certainly take that bishop and then there would be a drawn out and a mediocre tough Endgame with Topalov's Bishop and King chasing after Shirov's pawns. Ah well, most people won't believe me.
@justinmanley8131
@justinmanley8131 5 жыл бұрын
just knowing its the "greatest move in chess history" would allow you to pick the MOST exotic move possible then analyze.
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@panzerkampfwagenvdauphine6489
@panzerkampfwagenvdauphine6489 3 жыл бұрын
"now find the most brilliant move in chess history" me a 700 rated player: sure why not
@alexbank4879
@alexbank4879 3 жыл бұрын
Man I felt this 😂😂
@lightyagami2813
@lightyagami2813 2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't
@robertakerman3570
@robertakerman3570 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbank4879 Though I couldn't juggle the way out in My mind.
@StillHIM001
@StillHIM001 2 жыл бұрын
Too relatable 🤣.
@NeyoBearGaming
@NeyoBearGaming 5 жыл бұрын
I literally guessed the move because I thought of the most counter-intuitive move possible.
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 5 жыл бұрын
preach.
@StormKillzone
@StormKillzone 5 жыл бұрын
same xD
@peterbrown6224
@peterbrown6224 5 жыл бұрын
As did I. The bishop's not going to achieve anything so might as well create a traffic jam.
@gasaidjohn3499
@gasaidjohn3499 4 жыл бұрын
Although you probably won't see my reply, finding the move Bh3 by itself wasn't the whole story when talking about the beauty of this move. The amazing part of this is that Shirov had played 42. Qd5 5 moves prior, offering a queen trade, which Topalov believed led to a theoretical draw. Shirov didn't just stumble into the position and find Bh3!, he had found it in his calculation and calculated all the possibilities five entire moves after the queens were traded. Even then, he had to consider possibilities such as pushing the pawn to g3, capturing on g2 if white moved his king, and gxh3 which was played in the game.
@nickbrown8861
@nickbrown8861 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same - it was the only crazy move I could think of!
@westprogamer3294
@westprogamer3294 5 жыл бұрын
I did not find it because I thought it was white's turn to move, yeah I know I am a prodigy.
@kulrajchavda9538
@kulrajchavda9538 5 жыл бұрын
Same😂😂😂
@eddy._.1822
@eddy._.1822 4 жыл бұрын
Me too lol
@darealdovahkiin3652
@darealdovahkiin3652 4 жыл бұрын
His move was one of the first I processed but I was like nah I’m just so bad that my dumbass my think that it might be a good move lmao
@darealdovahkiin3652
@darealdovahkiin3652 4 жыл бұрын
His move was one of the first I processed but I was like nah I’m just so bad that my dumbass my think that it might be a good move lmao
@Wilker_uwu
@Wilker_uwu 4 жыл бұрын
i had the exact same problem XD (i'm sad now ;-;)
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 7 жыл бұрын
Stockfish 6 couldnt find this move but everyone in the comments are Bobby Fisher himself as far as i can see
@ctoaun23
@ctoaun23 7 жыл бұрын
It's different when you know there's a great/weird move. No one here would have played it over the board obviously and we all would have drawn!
@Toshinben
@Toshinben 7 жыл бұрын
When someone says 'great move', my mind immediately starts looking for 'weird move'. I imagine it's the case for many others.
@trevors3908
@trevors3908 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, this move was easy to find as I like looking for weird moves (Especially in endgames. That's my favorite part of a chess match.) However, I'd be willing to bet I'd almost never find the "greatest move" if it were in the opening or midgame. Also, it's easier to find a move when looking at someone else's game than while playing a game yourself in my opinion.
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 7 жыл бұрын
I'd analyse this move if I had days per move (it's how I play chess online). Whether I'd actually play it is another matter. Over the board? I might consider it breifly but I would probably quickly decide it wasn't worth the time to evaluate deeply. Stockfish 6 is a great deal stronger than I am (obviously). However, I have one advantage over it that might make the difference in these kind of situations... I'm a human and have the benefit of a brain. I know the bishop is potentially worth less than a pawn here, but stockfish doesn't unless it sees a brute force promotion. I only need to see that the pawn structure is suitable for me to eventually force through. I also don't need to continue analysing obviously losing moves, unlike stockfish. Stockfish is placing too high a value on the bishop for the position. This is a flaw Alpha Zero has exposed in stockfish.
@fisher00769
@fisher00769 7 жыл бұрын
How? I have the free version of Houdini, which is a pretty old one, and it absolutely immediately found Bh3, without any thought basically. Keep in mind also my computer is really low tier as well (1 GB RAM+1.73 GHz CPU )
@fanatKupa
@fanatKupa 6 жыл бұрын
The greatest move in chess history: Shirov vs. Topalov. The greatest game in chess history: Kasparov vs. Topalov. Poor Topalov.
@agadmator
@agadmator 6 жыл бұрын
Karpov's Immortal is also against Topalov :)
@khushalchandaria5450
@khushalchandaria5450 6 жыл бұрын
@@agadmator he says the queen is hanging because after the queen exchange, the rook has a free win over the bishop as no one is protecting it.. (PS ik this is 7 months late but still)
@elliotmcgee8918
@elliotmcgee8918 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Topalov forces strong play from his opponents. Lets get Topalov against AlphaZero.
@mohamedabdelsamea695
@mohamedabdelsamea695 6 жыл бұрын
xDDDD
@dago6410
@dago6410 5 жыл бұрын
the best game in chess history in my honest opinion is Steinitz v. Van Bardeleben.
@THEGLORYRISING
@THEGLORYRISING 6 жыл бұрын
incredible move that forces the win, I'm pretty sure as shirov placed that bishop down on h3 he jumped up in disgust, "Argh I didn't see that pawn, damn!" then continued "Just kidding, mate in 25 sucker".
@mileswhsbasketball
@mileswhsbasketball 6 жыл бұрын
I love that mate in 25😂
@gonzalo4658
@gonzalo4658 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@s.papadatos6711
@s.papadatos6711 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much...the same thing that I do with my little brother😂
@cnelsonlv999
@cnelsonlv999 4 жыл бұрын
I was actually able to find this move, which leads me to conclude that it wasn't the greatest move in chess history.
@X-R-T-C
@X-R-T-C 4 жыл бұрын
No, it does not... The fact that you are told that there is an outstanding move available makes you think outside of the box, search for the unusual, the exceptional; minus the anxiety, minus the pressure of the game, minus the time pressure. They don't know that such a move exists, they have to find it. Smartass...
@liamcunynghame9356
@liamcunynghame9356 4 жыл бұрын
@@X-R-T-C some one needs a hug
@0xc0ffee_
@0xc0ffee_ 4 жыл бұрын
I found it as well :) That bishop is totally useless, so I thought it would be easier to move around with the King and have less problems with opponent having doubled pawns. I
@MattiMCFC
@MattiMCFC 4 жыл бұрын
@@X-R-T-C Yeah, cuz finding a move people consider the greatest move in chess history, and having an explination as to why it's good isn't an acomplishment..
@StephenPaulTroup
@StephenPaulTroup 4 жыл бұрын
LOL, ditto, my thought exactly!
@technowey
@technowey 5 жыл бұрын
The greatest move in chess history was your decision to start this channel! Thanks for another great video. I didn't find the move. I only looked a few seconds. I guessed it was d4, but I didn't find the continuation for that move. I knew it would look like a bad move from the buildup. By the way, at 6:16, after PXN the White queen is not hanging, although it is bad for white to capture the knight.
@Iraercturus
@Iraercturus 3 жыл бұрын
The rook will take the bishop after Nxc2
@gfweis
@gfweis 7 жыл бұрын
That was easy to find, as it was the only way to sacrifice the bishop, which was the only move that could in principle make it the "greatest move in chess history." :)
@iangrant2925
@iangrant2925 7 жыл бұрын
It is a bit like doing a puzzle - you know there is some weird looking move or counter-intuitive move that wins, so you look for such a move.
@miguelito2361
@miguelito2361 6 жыл бұрын
Yup! I don't play chess, but even I suspected this was the move that was coming up. The two white pawns in the H column can't move forward on account of the black G6 pawn, and the white bishop can't leave the A-column black pawn unattended. The bishop move renders black's pieces rather useless!
@DanMedlenJr
@DanMedlenJr 6 жыл бұрын
Michael H the king doesn't hide in the end game he gets into the game.
@peterwinters8587
@peterwinters8587 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo - clap clap clap
@garylake8654
@garylake8654 5 жыл бұрын
@@DanMedlenJr Spot on, in the end game, its tempo with the king that matters, this move gave the tempo to the black king, at least by white accepting the bishop 'sacrifice' it did.....
@akshaylm1076
@akshaylm1076 7 жыл бұрын
Agadmator is THE BEST chess channel on KZbin.
@runhomie1013
@runhomie1013 7 жыл бұрын
akshay lm10 agreed
@jaswik2023
@jaswik2023 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lukeelliott5921
@lukeelliott5921 7 жыл бұрын
Up there with Mato
@saamspam6127
@saamspam6127 7 жыл бұрын
Not the best chess channel, the best channel in general
@yoooyoyooo
@yoooyoyooo 7 жыл бұрын
in history :)
@nikolajosic5822
@nikolajosic5822 3 жыл бұрын
i fucking found the move. after having a horrible day, this really lightened up my mood, thank you brother
@arnavsrivastava2462
@arnavsrivastava2462 4 жыл бұрын
0:21 check out the captions when he tries to say Vishwanathan Anand. Also checkout the captions at 0:27.
@BeLhElHeSGUY
@BeLhElHeSGUY 4 жыл бұрын
Just checking if anyone else noticed it ahahahha.Genius.
@keshavkaushik8203
@keshavkaushik8203 4 жыл бұрын
Damn!!!
@kenmendoza6932
@kenmendoza6932 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody writes auto generated captions. Thats why its called "auto-generated"
@Jagar_Tharn
@Jagar_Tharn 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenmendoza6932 The sky is blue, except when it is other colors.
@turtlefeesh
@turtlefeesh 3 жыл бұрын
Who's Viswanathan Anand and Alexei Shirov? I only know We-found-out-on Another and Alex-A Share-of!
@pulguinha682
@pulguinha682 3 жыл бұрын
it takes stockfish 14 at depth 30 to spot Bh3, but in the end, it's the top engine line for SF14, so props to Shirov, for finding such an amazing move
@jersker67
@jersker67 7 жыл бұрын
Your dedication to chess and making videos is inspirational! Keep it up! youre the man
@amjan
@amjan 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, he's balls deep in chess ;)
@funutation
@funutation 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for saying you're going to pause the video, and then giving us a moment to determine if we really wanna pause because I always say "yes, no, yes, no, YES" :-)
@Darraghx1x
@Darraghx1x 7 жыл бұрын
The greatest move in Chess history was Magnus Carlsen picking up Liv Tyler for a walk in the park.
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 6 жыл бұрын
lol!
@mohammadaminsarabi6207
@mohammadaminsarabi6207 5 жыл бұрын
😁
@buk1733
@buk1733 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@Novasky2007
@Novasky2007 5 жыл бұрын
Check and mate
@parkershaw8529
@parkershaw8529 5 жыл бұрын
@@Novasky2007 This is SO underated!
@innesbarrett1805
@innesbarrett1805 4 жыл бұрын
I figured out the move but only because I immediately expect a ridiculous sacrifice every time.
@barwlface444
@barwlface444 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, the Wooden Shield is a bit stronger, but not bad.
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial 4 жыл бұрын
It's a wooden targe or buckler; a less substantial shield, but plenty enough to deflect any chance of an opponents attack
@kekw5255
@kekw5255 4 жыл бұрын
It's similar I'd say
@aelix56
@aelix56 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackjacktrial these are the roots of the wooden shield, pvc just perfected it
@anonymousstout4759
@anonymousstout4759 4 жыл бұрын
Could you give me timestamp I've never heard stockfish recommend me this move
@jeffreykaufmann2867
@jeffreykaufmann2867 4 жыл бұрын
Black didnt have to Sacrifice his bishop to easily win cause Black is ahead by two pawns
@Belinera
@Belinera 7 жыл бұрын
The fact that many people commenting here can't seem to grasp that Bh3 was the only winning move is a testament to how impressive it is.
@Mwuesse
@Mwuesse 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is in the video is he doesn't make it clear that this is the only winning move for black or why... i mean it's intuitive to see that the king wants to walk across the board and that the bishop is blocking that plan - it's also possible to see how moving it exactly there to "force" white to waste time by either capturing or by eventually moving his pawn so his king can move. But apart from that this video shows no example lines of how white can draw if that move wasn't played
@davidbostwick6717
@davidbostwick6717 6 жыл бұрын
I saw Bh3 nearly immediately as the split pawns with White's king in the corner worth as much as the white bishop. I did not realize, however, that it would be the ONLY winning move. I can see why it would earn the title of greatest chess move for that reason even though it seems intuitive to me.
@fabiogaucho77
@fabiogaucho77 5 жыл бұрын
The video by the St. Louis chess club makes the situation and the variations much more clear. It is in depth
@ln9296
@ln9296 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidbostwick6717 you are full of shit
@name1483
@name1483 5 жыл бұрын
is it?
@chatoXvato
@chatoXvato 7 жыл бұрын
Theres a lot of Grandmasters in these comments.
@SuperMz0051
@SuperMz0051 6 жыл бұрын
chatoXvato fake GM hahaha
@Daniel1341-t2p
@Daniel1341-t2p 6 жыл бұрын
Burger-king GM's
@beng4151
@beng4151 6 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Especially ranking the move. Maybe it's not the best move in history, but how would these simpletons know that?
@danielburbank1669
@danielburbank1669 6 жыл бұрын
I found the move in seconds. All I had to do was let the video play on. :)
@Gus_Diaz_83
@Gus_Diaz_83 6 жыл бұрын
SUPER Commando Grandmasters... It's the next few levels up
@clydeblair9622
@clydeblair9622 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know squat about playing chess or any games for that matter, but how can anyone not be facinated by these duels of the mind? I'm hooked.
@rg7535
@rg7535 4 жыл бұрын
6:14 your queen is not hanging. You just give up a bishop for a knight, and you're down a pawn after Qxc2, Nxc2, Rxd2, Rc1, Bxe5. Not ideal, but your queen is most definitely not hanging.
@rg7535
@rg7535 4 жыл бұрын
@@lastseenonplanetearth5299 That's the line I wrote, except you wouldn't have to defend your light square bishop, since your knight would be blocking it. Trying to save your light square bishop would definitely be a terrible idea. You would trade queens and lose a pawn, but much more than that, you would allow black to improve his pawn structure, and you would almost certainly regret allowing those 3 pawns on the queen side to be connected, especially since black's light square bishop and a1 rook would be defending the entire formation, as soon as black plays c5. Plus, black can take the knight on c1, sacrificing the exchange, but winning in the end, not allowing white to take the pawn on b4, and then black will be almost about to fork your light square bishop and rook, and you would need 3 moves to save them, allowing black to move with tempo and play b3, c5 and c4 and pretty much win the game since you wouldn't be able to stop that pawn storm on the queen side. In other words, it's clearly a bad idea to take the knight, it's just not because of the reason agadmator explained.
@cemenenkoff
@cemenenkoff 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever made the captions you made me spit my tea. I love you, you beautiful soul.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 6 жыл бұрын
I saw it, but to be fair I can't beat a mid level chess app on my best days.
@alexmojica4783
@alexmojica4783 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@jot2b
@jot2b 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! Same here, and I found the move too! Have to give some credit to @agadmator for some training on pawn structures & doubled pawns.
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in this boat. I wonder if this is just one of those weird problems where novices and journeymen have an easier time. The value of the destruction of his pawn structure seems apparent, but it's entirely possible I am simply not valuing my own bishop enough. I certainly wouldn't think out several moves in advance to be able to see the victory for that move, but it "seemed obvious". I think knowing that there is one move that is gonna decide everything with hindsight probably helps more than anything, simply because there is no other obvious single move that drastically changes the dynamics of the board.
@ryansylvester976
@ryansylvester976 6 жыл бұрын
Im with ya
@gg-ki7pv
@gg-ki7pv 6 жыл бұрын
Me too :))) in 5 seconds :))
@JQMusic5
@JQMusic5 7 жыл бұрын
I think Shirov just has a dramatic publicist xD
@MDMAx
@MDMAx 7 жыл бұрын
Or a hidden sarcasm maybe? It's an interesting move nonetheless. I will consider it in my future games (:
@oaktemplate46
@oaktemplate46 6 жыл бұрын
Hehe xD I think sometimes when we look at a game in retrospect, we do not re-imagine the tension and mood that is pushing each players logic. I think Shirov notices Topalov ignoring stronger moves preceding bishop h3 and played to advantage with the swaps. Baiting that pawn to ensure easy mgmt of the white pawn file was genius, but it was the play that lead Topalov there.
@nextgenfootball69420
@nextgenfootball69420 5 жыл бұрын
Jackson Quade bruh I don't see your name on the grandmasters list
@anosmianAcrimony
@anosmianAcrimony 6 жыл бұрын
’’That bishop is so strong, I mean, it literally cuts the board in half.’’ So they called an adjudicator and got a new board
@bazcuda
@bazcuda 4 жыл бұрын
5:50 "It's a very unpleasant position" White: "Mmm, I'm good thanks" :D
@JuicyJonesHQ
@JuicyJonesHQ 4 жыл бұрын
I love how that brilliant endgame sac calls back to Topolov's manoeuvers at 4:01 where black's pawns are doubled. That seems like the clever bit, using Topolov's own good ideas against him.
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 7 жыл бұрын
My intuition found it. I had no idea what to do after that point but it seemed like the right move
@krytitan
@krytitan 7 жыл бұрын
same :)
@christianscholte2982
@christianscholte2982 7 жыл бұрын
I guess, it's like this: You know that it is considered as the greatet move of all time, so something in the back of your head tells you that it certainly must be a sacrifice. The real question is: would you find this move in a real game, when noone tells you that the move you are going to play will be the greatest move of all time. I guess not. You say it yourself: you would have had no idea how to go on. So why would it seem right to sacrifice a bishop? No offence meant! ;)
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not good with planning moves out in my head. The way I play is mostly reactionary. If I was put into that position in a real game I would probably ignore the a4 pawn and just guard the D one as it walks to promotion. It's the clear path and you have to make a move.
@Grzegorz54321
@Grzegorz54321 7 жыл бұрын
Yes of course you all see that move :D
@rocotips8191
@rocotips8191 7 жыл бұрын
PaleGhost69 lol same
@Brandon-a-writer
@Brandon-a-writer 7 жыл бұрын
Kasparov's rook sacrifice against Topalov is still probably my favorite move, because it was something I would never have considered. Caissa was indeed kind to him that day
@ginoginoh
@ginoginoh 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. That is still my favourite chess game ever.
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, to me that, and fishers game of the century (the knight move) are candidates for the best
@danmatei1487
@danmatei1487 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@moea.9120
@moea.9120 6 жыл бұрын
It's easier to see the move when we know it's there, as it's usually something "obvious", like a sacrifice.
@platinumdust2252
@platinumdust2252 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Lateral thinking.
@davidnikoloff3211
@davidnikoloff3211 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. I appreciate learning the history of the game.
@pauloalmeida6433
@pauloalmeida6433 5 жыл бұрын
Great insightful chess debate on historical games, thank you. After your hypothetical sequence at 8:30, which arguably pointed to a draw, in fact you were presenting Mr. Topalov with a simple finish: white rook d8; black king h7; white queen h8 checkmate
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 2 жыл бұрын
Black would just block with the rook immediately
@Grandcapi
@Grandcapi 7 жыл бұрын
Last year Shirov was invited to play in the biggest tournament in Brazil. He finished in 4th place. Someone printed a t-shirt with the famous move and sold a lot.
@empanadero_
@empanadero_ 5 жыл бұрын
I found it BUT I knew that every other move was normal, so when prefaced with "The greatest move in chess history" I knew it was Bh3 immediately, only because it was so wacky looking. Did I like it? No. Would I have played it? No. My rating? ~1200.
@GoAheadShaun
@GoAheadShaun 5 жыл бұрын
Ffs I finally got the "find the best move" puzzle he gives on each video. AND IM GLAD IT WAS FOR THIS GAME!
@jriccioj
@jriccioj 4 жыл бұрын
As a beginner, I’ve come to learn that a lot of brilliant moves are heavy sacrifices but they end up being worth it
@christopherride3764
@christopherride3764 3 жыл бұрын
And... this is a great channel, love the format and the insights 👍
@ctoaun23
@ctoaun23 7 жыл бұрын
For those who want a more thorough explanation of the move, the first half of this video gives a nice explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIq0nmuZrpanjNk . The reason this is the "greatest move ever" is because it's the only move that actually wins the game, the idea being the black king needs to get to f5 next move or the game is drawn.
@sumanshrestha414
@sumanshrestha414 6 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why I’m suddenly watching chess videos these days. ::
@shiveon7
@shiveon7 4 жыл бұрын
Mw too.Probably i am stuck at master level in android chess game.
@alcoholfree6381
@alcoholfree6381 4 жыл бұрын
You are watching chess because your innate intelligence and common sense! Chess is a much better sport than anything else we may watch. It is a true and better spectator sport. So you’re watching chess because you’re smart!!! Admit it.
@bishmoyrahman5358
@bishmoyrahman5358 4 жыл бұрын
@@alcoholfree6381 not necessarily im pretty sure people play chess because their passionate about it and saying chess is a much better sport to watch is pretty ignorant. I watch these videos not because I'm smart but because I like chess and I would have done the same for any other sport.
@bezzlebedeviled4756
@bezzlebedeviled4756 6 жыл бұрын
11:14 ...Interesting. Even Stockfish10 doesn't find it, at least not right away. But after a3 (its first choice) followed by Kf2, then Bh3 is its first choice on the following turn with a -10 score as opposed to -2.7 for anything else.
@dandecastro51
@dandecastro51 2 жыл бұрын
I rewatch this a few times a year :) So instructive As well as entertaining...
@watermalone4601
@watermalone4601 5 жыл бұрын
Subtitles are freaking amazing thank you😂😂😂
@skaterfugater
@skaterfugater 7 жыл бұрын
i instantly found it but only because it was announced as the greatest move in history. so i had to be something radical. if you hadnt announced it as the greatest move but just some unimportant best move i would have gone for something else.
@spartapils4213
@spartapils4213 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Daniel1341-t2p
@Daniel1341-t2p 6 жыл бұрын
same, I just looked for a weird move and Bh3 looks weird
@Tizohip
@Tizohip 6 жыл бұрын
Found weird move and found the best move.
@gabrieldunn7384
@gabrieldunn7384 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I "found" it seing it doubled white's pawsn and gave black a passed pawn, but not really knowing how to win from there.
@bungdarwin
@bungdarwin 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought that back would create double pawn by sacrificing Bh3. Excellent move
@moef.5326
@moef.5326 6 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest move ever because it's the very last one thinks to make, and the only that wins the game.
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 6 жыл бұрын
yes but there are many such moves in chess history, it is absurd to call it this way...
@maxpauleta3496
@maxpauleta3496 5 жыл бұрын
The position for white is lost either way, bishop h3 is just one of the many winning moves.
@cinegraphics
@cinegraphics 4 жыл бұрын
AND because the chess engine didn't offer it. At least at the moment this video was created. Wonder if AlphaZero would see it.
@petrkupec8347
@petrkupec8347 4 жыл бұрын
Props to the guy making complete subtitles, helped a lot
@davidfriedlander5512
@davidfriedlander5512 2 жыл бұрын
agadmator has the best KZbin chess channel. It is excellent! Always informative, engaging and interesting. I am very appreciative of the quality of the work that is always evident in these videos. Thank you for putting these up for us! I found the move instantly. I'm maybe ELO 1950 but my "chess intuition" is very strong. Maybe it's from playing chess for 60 years and seeing a lot of games. Unfortunately, I'm lazy and am terrible with chess opening theory which lowers my scores. Nevertheless, it was big fun to find the move and also to feel very strongly that it was correct. Having the guts to play such a move in an important tournament is another thing entirely of course. I make no claim on being anything but an above average player. Finding Bh3 totally made my day though!
@briancarlson9778
@briancarlson9778 6 жыл бұрын
I found it but only after i watched the video a second time xD
@Unlikely_Hero
@Unlikely_Hero 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the position in April 2021 and the Tarrasch engine recommends Bh3 by 8+ pawn points over any other candidate -10.64 (depth 38) vs -2.08 for Bb1 or Bc2, etc. A fantastic find by Shirov!
@CinemainMotion
@CinemainMotion 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how I got here or what was said at any point throughout the entire video, but good job being smart!
@wreckim
@wreckim 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest move I've ever seen is Agadmator deciding to keep everything free for us all to enjoy. No engine would suggest such a move either. I live very close to the Getty Museum and the Getty House in Santa Monica, CA....entrance is, shockingly, free as well. Yes, I am putting Agadmator in the same realm as Getty; that's how good this channel is.
@sxile4812
@sxile4812 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and now understand QVC is a time traveller and this is the Wooden Shield
@Eric-yj5xg
@Eric-yj5xg 4 жыл бұрын
YAY found it immediatly! its like trading 1 bishop for 2 last pawns. then you just push your other pawns with the kings. can't stop them all
@altyoutubeaccount6624
@altyoutubeaccount6624 4 жыл бұрын
Actually found this one, Never thought I'd find any of the solutions of these tbh. Forcing a double up pawn was my only thought.
@Zerox_Prime
@Zerox_Prime 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't forced, was it?
@juxebeats5439
@juxebeats5439 3 жыл бұрын
The best feeling is predicting the move he played
@markopetrovic7376
@markopetrovic7376 Жыл бұрын
This move is easy to find if you are aware of chess basics with bishops of oposite colours. A bit harder to calculate does it give enough tempo to pull the pawns to promotion.
@UncleTola_
@UncleTola_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad YT is recommending old agadmator videos. Something to cool off
@mm-fh1tw
@mm-fh1tw 4 жыл бұрын
Thats called the wooden shield
@rossgeller422
@rossgeller422 7 жыл бұрын
so any lose from topalov consider the immortal of his opponent ..kasparov (1999) karpov (1994) shirov (1998)
@chenyanhao676
@chenyanhao676 7 жыл бұрын
Ross Geller thank you topalov for your sacrifice
@RicardoAGuitar
@RicardoAGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Korchnoi and Timman also lost many brilliant games. When you're a great player like those guys, it takes a heck of an effort to beat you.
@unicockboy1666
@unicockboy1666 7 жыл бұрын
"some call it the greatest chessmove in history... I'll give you a couple of seconds..."
@Richard.Andersson
@Richard.Andersson 4 жыл бұрын
I let Stockfish analyse the position over night on my Intel i7: Bh3 is the only winning move, all other moves lead to a draw. In addition, Bh3 is a forced mate in 39 moves! (at least that is the best Stockfish could do in 7 hours) The best move white can do in return is Kh2 and not take the pawn as it delays the game slightly more... Here is the final result at search depth of 74: -M39: Bf5-h3 Kg1-h2 Bh3-g4 Kh2-g3 Ke6-f5 Bc3-b4 Kf5-e4 Kg3xg4 d5-d4 Kg4-g3 Ke4-d3 Kg3-f2 Kd3-c4 g2-g4 Kc4xb4 h4-h5 g6xh5 g4xh5 d4-d3 h5-h6 d3-d2 h6-h7 d2-d1Q h7-h8Q Qd1-d4+ Kf2-g2 a4-a3 Qh8-b8+ Kb4-c4 Qb8-c8+ Qd4-c5 Qc8-a6+ Kc4-b3 Qa6-b7+ Qc5-b4 Qb7-f7+ Qb4-c4 Qf7-b7+ Kb3-c2 Kg2-h2 a3-a2 Qb7-g2+ Kc2-c1 Qg2-g1+ Kc1-d2 Qg1-a1 Qc4-h4+ Kh2-g2 Qh4-e4+ Kg2-h3 Qe4-b1 Qa1xf6 Qb1-h1+ Kh3-g4 Qh1-g1+ Kg4-f5 Qg1-f2+ Kf5-e6 Qf2xf6+ Ke6xf6 a2-a1Q+ Kf6-f5 Kd2-d3 Kf5-e6 Kd3-d4 Ke6-f6 Kd4-d5+ Kf6-g5 Qa1-e5+ Kg5-g6 Kd5-e6 Kg6-h7 Ke6-f6 Kh7-h8 Kf6-g6+ Kh8-g8 Qe5-e8+
@cecilwalsh5089
@cecilwalsh5089 4 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason I found this move is because you put so much emphasis on it like no engine recommended the bishop sacrifice so I just think we’ll it wouldn’t be a simple pawn or king move and ended up figuring it out!!! Love the content, favorite chess channel!!!
@Kamelot.Gravel0s
@Kamelot.Gravel0s 7 жыл бұрын
At 6:10 on cxb4 the queen isn't hanging because of the d4 knight
@superMIKHIN
@superMIKHIN 7 жыл бұрын
in that case cxb4 qxc2 Nxc2 Rxd3 with a tempo on the knight and bishop, there is no defense so black is better
@agadmator
@agadmator 7 жыл бұрын
+LordOfTheYaks What he said :)
@rmendeljacobs2832
@rmendeljacobs2832 7 жыл бұрын
LordOfTheYaks Bb2 is not a defense?
@Kamelot.Gravel0s
@Kamelot.Gravel0s 7 жыл бұрын
LordOfTheYaks whether the line is desirable for white or not doesn't change the fact that the queen isn't hanging, which is my only claim
@superMIKHIN
@superMIKHIN 7 жыл бұрын
Ninnifier O.o Black captures with the pawn ;)
@Galdring
@Galdring 5 жыл бұрын
As a truly amateur chess player, I would have appreciated an explanation of why the bishop move facilitates the winning plan. I understand if this is a channel for more experienced players, though. Could anyone explain? Is it about getting the bishop out of the way, then making white waste a move on taking the bishop, so you get a head start on the king travel? Fantastic videos, Agadmator. Congratulations on getting to play Magnus Carlsen! Well... sort of.
@wsshambaugh
@wsshambaugh 3 жыл бұрын
The white pawns are trapped. If the h4 pawn advances the it is captured, blocking the h3 pawn. With two pawns and a king black was sure to promote one of them, as happened in the game.
@kevin.s
@kevin.s 4 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail is the wooden shield PogU!
@nickm8882
@nickm8882 4 жыл бұрын
The only move from your channel I’ve ever found and I’m so proud I’m not even 1000 rated yet. Pure luck I guess, but you also had me wanting to look for abstract moves and I thought there weren’t many options besides the bishop to move and have a whole lot of effect
@doc1411
@doc1411 3 жыл бұрын
What for a move!! thank you so much. Gives human beings a chance against the engines.
@Bobby-fj8mk
@Bobby-fj8mk 6 жыл бұрын
Stockfish 9 saw the great move after 50 seconds on an i7 quad core. Stockfish 9 also didn't take the Bishop - it realises that it's poisoned..
@IvanLopez-fx3hx
@IvanLopez-fx3hx 6 жыл бұрын
lol I thought that it was the other persons turn when it was "the greatest move of all time"
@michaelbuckingham4830
@michaelbuckingham4830 6 жыл бұрын
My friend just thought you said “because there was time travel”
@kurtissjacobs3124
@kurtissjacobs3124 4 жыл бұрын
😆
@emmettedavidson7055
@emmettedavidson7055 2 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of sacrificing my bishop, figuring it might complicate his run to promotion as I had a pawn pretty close; though the other bishop should easily prevent it, I held to my guess thinking my players just might be positioned well enough to frustrate that sole opposing bishop. Thanks for showing this.
@wuwazz0
@wuwazz0 3 жыл бұрын
It's not about finding the next move; it's about knowing that with that move you are going to win the game. I mean: you have 4 pieces left, of course something extraordinary is going to happen: a sacrifice leading to a doubled pawn is a move you can likely imagine watching this video. Actually playing that move during a competition it's an option that only a GM would (only) consider to do: after, you still have to think about the endgame and play it perfectly
@elpenguinoofmexico1388
@elpenguinoofmexico1388 5 жыл бұрын
8:54 what are the downsides of doing Rd4
@RadicalCaveman
@RadicalCaveman 3 жыл бұрын
Rxe5
@IgnacioLunar
@IgnacioLunar 6 жыл бұрын
I was analizing and there is no way to win if Topalov had not take the bishop.
@anupr567
@anupr567 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly!! That sacrifice move is not required
@zanti4132
@zanti4132 4 жыл бұрын
Black's plan is to get his king to e4 before White blockades the position with Kf2 followed by Ke3. So after ...Bh3! how does White stop that? Now Kf2 Kf5 Ke3 just loses the g-pawn, obviously. It seems clear that the position is won once the Black king gets to e4, with or without the bishop. The only reason I don't think ...Bh3 deserves to be called the greatest move of all time is that it is really quite logical and not especially deep - just get the king to e4 and the White bishop can't defend everthing, game over!
@Ronalgordo
@Ronalgordo 3 жыл бұрын
@@zanti4132 yes, i think that depending of the moves of the White, black can take the pawn of g and make a pass pawn on f, and if White make any different move that is not with the king to black can get his King to e4 so is not so easy to White at that time to not lose the Game. But maybe we need a deep analisys of it better than this i say. But anyway if this is all true it means that the bishop to h3 is the only winning move for blacks and that means a lot for sure.
@steeeeeeeven
@steeeeeeeven 3 жыл бұрын
position is winning for black no matter what. but bishop sacrifice is the most accurate (even though it is not seen by any engine up this point still in 2021). Engines agree on its accuracy after it is played.
@daveyork0
@daveyork0 3 жыл бұрын
Analizing sounds painful, for one or both of you
@Qira7beats
@Qira7beats 5 жыл бұрын
6:14 wym your queen is hanging? Haha
@eskay6666
@eskay6666 5 жыл бұрын
After queen captures and knight captures. Rook to D2 captures bishop. You lose the bishop pair in an open position . But yeah the queen isn’t hanging tho
@rg7535
@rg7535 4 жыл бұрын
@@eskay6666 You also lose a pawn
@juela2092
@juela2092 3 жыл бұрын
i dont see the lost pawn but it is obv bad for white, the knight on c2 is pinned and and whites only options that dont lose a piece are either rc1 [after which the knight is still pinned and the rook cant move either, black has ...Rab8, bxa5 loses a piece to ...Rb7 and white obv doesnt want to alllow ...axb4 giving black three connected passed pawns so prob has to defend with Rf4 but all whites pieces are very badly placed.], or bb1, which is prob less bad but its the wrong square for the bishop, as well as blocking white's rook from coming to the b file, ...Rab8 is coming anyway and now bxa5 is again basically impossible due to ...Rxb1 winning two pieces for a rook (there is no need to do this immediately as white cant untangle, st like ...c5 first is better to bring the bishop into the game and only after white plays eg Rd1 or Rc1 do u play ...Rxb1. if you do not play bxa5, ...axb4 is a threat and in some lines black may have Rxc2 sacrificing the exchange to win the b pawn and create three connected passed pawns.
@TheNameOfJesus
@TheNameOfJesus 4 жыл бұрын
As others have indicated, simply knowing the context of the puzzle can let you guess the answer even without having a clue what the answer is. It reminds me of the time I signed up for a Statistics class in university, when at the start of the class I took last year's exam to see how well I could do with no knowledge of statistics at all, and using similar techniques I was able to get 40% of the 5-part multiple choices answers correct. And the passing grade was in fact 40%. Sadly, I didn't get a much better grade after completing the course.
@mikeheinz1228
@mikeheinz1228 3 жыл бұрын
It forces him to further mess up his only pawn structure. If he attacks the bishop he doubles up his pawn and will eventually take the pawn finishing on a light square which will make it impossible to remove with the opposite color bishop leaving him free to move his other three passed pawns. If he ignores, he simply loses his pawn for the cost of the bishop and shirov would've ended with four pawns instead of only three which would've been worse. Or, he pushes passed the bishop and ruins the only proper order of attack to break shirov's pawn structure. It's genius, and the moves where you sacrifice a piece for the end game are the toughest to spot.
@eh5048
@eh5048 6 жыл бұрын
I found it but only because I thought what would be the most unlikely move I would make
@blyatmobile4069
@blyatmobile4069 5 жыл бұрын
I saw it and was like "haha imagine if he placed his bishop there" then he did
@abrahamespinoza7489
@abrahamespinoza7489 4 жыл бұрын
The captions read “Commie Gibberish” when he mentions Vishwanathan Anaand won the tournament, who made the captions?
@yornald2501
@yornald2501 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me think it was u
@ketan6182
@ketan6182 4 жыл бұрын
Dude it's auto generated, it's literally written there
@ThirdLife86
@ThirdLife86 3 жыл бұрын
Some modern Engines can seem to find the move pretty quickly: Stockfish 13 with or without NNUE Dragon by Komodo Deep HIARCS 14 (Shows it REALLY has positional understanding and good eval even if it can't compete with say Stockfish in a match) Ethereal 12.75 (Probably a lot in Common with SF) Andscacs 0.95 ShashChess 15.1 (Probably a lot in Common with SF) Wasp 4.50 These here don't: Lc0 with the latest T60 30x384 Net 68550 (sadly Leela doesn't even consider this move within the first 8 PVs...ouch) Komodo 14.1 Houdini 6 with or without Tactical Mode (i really thought it would see it one way or the other) Fizbo 2 Deep Shredder 13 (Shredder is usually an endgame killer, didn't see it though) Deep Junior Yokohama Fire 8 OpenTal 1.1 Pedone 3.0 rofChade 2.3
@iainmacaulay2244
@iainmacaulay2244 4 жыл бұрын
Love yer videos pal, Shug fae Dundee in Scotland 😘
@LuigiPaiPai
@LuigiPaiPai 3 жыл бұрын
When I make a move like that and lose it's called a silly blunder but when it's Shirov and he wins it's the greatest move in chess history. So much bias.
@jefffritts68
@jefffritts68 6 жыл бұрын
i lol at "in those days" ....feels like last week to me :)
@vanngo6912
@vanngo6912 6 жыл бұрын
when he told us to try find the move, I was moving the white pieces. that's how much of a lost child I am
@JasonBourne-w1w
@JasonBourne-w1w 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for considering us so brilliant to find greatest move of history in couple of seconds.
@memo-sn1gu
@memo-sn1gu 2 жыл бұрын
I like the few seconds to pause the video, it gives you time to process.
@specialperson335
@specialperson335 4 жыл бұрын
What the hell were this subtitles?😂😂
@Cranndaddy
@Cranndaddy 4 жыл бұрын
(commie gibberish)
@Waterwolf221
@Waterwolf221 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cranndaddy lmao ikr
@diantecastine7235
@diantecastine7235 4 жыл бұрын
That wasn't the greatest move. He had a win regardless. The sacrifice was unnecessary
@anverk
@anverk 4 жыл бұрын
most underrated comment; just play out the game; no way Black can lose from that position; just move bishop to G4
@trevorworkman8191
@trevorworkman8191 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes sense, I found the move pretty quickly so it can’t be very profound 😂
@HoldenNY22
@HoldenNY22 4 жыл бұрын
NO Name- That is what I thought. If however White who only has 2 pawns and a Bishop to Black's 4 pawns and a Bishop somehow did a Movie where White ending up winning the Game- then I would call that a great movie.
@xoire9754
@xoire9754 4 жыл бұрын
@@anverk Bg4 is drawing, as the kingside pawns disrupt each other. Bh3 allows two promotion threats.
@pokerbuddy62
@pokerbuddy62 4 жыл бұрын
I dont get how a move that is made in a position where you were already winning can be considered the greatest move of all time
@anusood4004
@anusood4004 4 жыл бұрын
If u have the greatest move available then you are winning
@MarcoMate87
@MarcoMate87 4 жыл бұрын
If you have the possibility to play a move the let you win, then it's obvious that you are winning, so your observation it's pointless.
@etekt
@etekt 4 жыл бұрын
Because other moves do not win, Bh3 is the only winning and stunning, every other move allows white king to reach the e3 square, and then white bishop and king can hold the 2 passed pawns, because of different color bishops on the board.
@sapphirewine7470
@sapphirewine7470 4 жыл бұрын
It really is a lot easier to find a move if youre told to look for it, but in the heat of the moment there is no way i would ever even consider that!
@albinoreaper2949
@albinoreaper2949 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I was watching this video and I just got a MasterClass chess ad
@jacob74947
@jacob74947 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck guys that's the first time I actually found the move, I'm so proud! All those chess.com puzzles have been working!
@amsbeats841
@amsbeats841 5 жыл бұрын
It was already a winning position for black, I feel like the greatest move in chess history has to turn the tides a bit more
@padelsanmiguel2752
@padelsanmiguel2752 5 жыл бұрын
No sir...it is a draw ...thats the only winning move because you have different coloured bishops...
@neritank5883
@neritank5883 7 жыл бұрын
Why not Bg4? Whats the meaning of this sacrifice?
@PaleGhost69
@PaleGhost69 7 жыл бұрын
Neritan K it screws over your opponents only chance at winning.
@VictorUdd
@VictorUdd 7 жыл бұрын
Neritan K Doubling whites two only pawns. And it has to be guarded by only one of blacks pawn. So black has 3 vs 0 pawn that are active. Impossible for the king and bishop to guard all of them and one will get promoted to a queen.
@CarlosSilva-cx6oh
@CarlosSilva-cx6oh 7 жыл бұрын
Neritan K the idea is to move the bishop with tempo in a way if he moved Bg4 then he doesn't attack anything and the white king can go and oppose the black king in the centre cutting off the entrance for the white king. The bishop on h3 attacks the g2 pawn that's the key.
@neritank5883
@neritank5883 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your explanations and reasonings. In principle I agree, but calculating 10 moves deep is a bit difficult, unless you're a chess-machine. They are GM, obviously, but it is hard to imagine that, at least from my prospective.
@VictorUdd
@VictorUdd 7 жыл бұрын
Neritan K Read my reply again. You don't need to to 10 deep calculations to know that the position is vastly better for black. 3 vs 0 pawns that can get promoted is enough to know. As I said it's impossible for the bishop and king to guard all the three pawns. That's all you need to know. No deep calculation needed in this case at least
@als7960
@als7960 3 жыл бұрын
I always get such a sense of accomplishment when I find a pause video move lol
@meltingface2558
@meltingface2558 4 жыл бұрын
Idk how I came across your channel but it makes me wanna get back into chess. I quit when I got to high school bc I played 3 other sports full time. I know this is an old video but thanks for the inspiration.
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