THE GUN LAWYER: The "No Guns" Sign

The Gun Lawyer discusses your rights in regards to "No Gun" signs.
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[@Sewermonkey69]

My personal opinion on the CPZ signs is this : if I’m CCW right, no one will know. I’ll deal with the legal aftermath after I’ve stopped an imminent threat and my family safe. If there is not metal detector or pat down/ security checkpoint, you can bet I’m carrying. There is no such thing as a gun free zone if I’m there.

[@christophersoberg2627]

Sewermonkey69 i’m with you on that one . I conceal carry everywhere I go if I have to draw it out then there’s bigger problems than a sign I didn’t see.

[@Dwilson1282]

Agreed- until it’s a risk of a felony.

[@gadsdenjim8785]

David Wilson then You DON'T Agree slave.

[@bloodeagle2234]

same

[@nomerc3608]

WAkE UP Gun PEOPLE! They want you to violate the signs and any other law so they can legally take all of your Guns! WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR SINCE THE BRADY BILL WHEN REGAN WAS SHOT! I am a Veteran and the only time I do not carry is when I go to the VA. I have come to my truck after appointments to find my truck unlocked and my console gone through several times! My console was locked when I got out of my truck to go to my appointment and it was unlocked when I got back into my truck. To call someone a slave because they refuse to risk everything they own and to risk not being able to legally protect your family for the rest of your life as well as yourself to me is very smart! They want us to break the laws so they can put us under the Jail! Once your in jail and every weapon you own has been removed from your home how can and will your wife protect herself and your children? What happens to her and your children when the crooks your in jail with tell their family and friends about you and that your family is not able to protect themselves? How do you live with what happened to them while you was in jail? You will have your hands full as it is trying to protect yourself! What happens when you do get home and several armed men walk in on you? Do you say welcome! Take what ever you want, oh yeah my wife is in the bedroom! What if you have a young girl? Do you offer her to them too? Whet about if you have a son? None of our children are safe being harmed now! Oh No I am Billy Jack! I can defend my family no matter what threat comes at me or comes through my door! WRONG! What do you do when your threatened by someone knocks on the side of your home at 2:30 AM while your walking to the door to let your cat inside? KNOCK KNOCK YOUR DEAD!!!??? What about when your just over one hour away from home and your alarm goes off? The alarm company tells you and the cops that your cat(s) set it off, there is no threat! You have had this same alarm for over two years and the new home set up is four months old. The cats have never tripped the motion detector! Nope the cats made the motion for just over one minute! When you get home the cops refuse to come clear your home? There was no threat, they didn’t even come check on your home! Then you wake up the next morning to your wife yelling about why is there mulch on her clean dining room floor! Then you go look and you find the mulch is not only in the floor but also inside the two window seals and then you see the two frames of the screens have been bent! LOOK AT THE HOME PAGE! “No Content!” They have shut down and are erasing everything they do not want us to hear and breaking the connections of those that think and feel the same way! Break the connections and make it so you can not talk to anyone else that feels the same as you! Make it so the only news we get is the what they tell us! Like it was before the internet! Hide the Corruption and TRUTH!

[@Jethrobodine75]

If there is no method for preventing a bad guy with a gun, either leave or ignore it. Big boy rules.

[@pulverize3]

No. You make a slingshot as strong as a gun. Its considered a toy. Problem solved

[@johnmullholand2044]

If I get confronted about carrying in a "gun free zone", I just ask the manager, supervisor, etc, "Do you honestly believe that a sign will stop a criminal from shooting this place up? If it happens when I'm here, my gun will stop them from causing numerous casualties. Do you guarantee my safety otherwise? If not, you open yourself up to a lawsuit, for failing to "protect" me." This usually results in the sign going away, with a quickness! MOLON LABE!

[@dragonf1092]

The sign opens them up for a lawsuit for conspiracy against rights and deprivation of rights under color of law.

[@SRFDriver]

I ask myself that very question every time I walk into a Whole Foods market to use their Amazon Returns booth. That's the only reason I even walk into that place--I refuse to give them dollar one because of their "30.05" and "30.06" signs (I live in Texas) signs that prohibit guns in the store. If someone were to come in and shoot that place up while I was in there unarmed you can bet I'd be first in line to sue them.

[@dragonson72]

@@SRFDriver A private business has the right to refuse service for any reason, and yet you make it a point to walk into a store you are not going to do business with. Why not worry about this store and patronize someplace else

[@SRFDriver]

@@dragonson72 Answer: Because they are geographically close to me.

[@dragonson72]

@@SRFDriver If a store has a policy I don't agree with I don't shop there, seems like an easy fix

[@derekweikart35]

I asked a LEO this same question and he said that public business with those signs are considered “semi private property”. Semi Private property in not on the list of locations where it is illegal to carry concealed. But if hey ask you to leave you must leave, then it would be considered armed trespass.

[@aaronwong1977]

This is true in certain states like Indiana. In Ohio, no such luck.

[@matthewlee9728]

@@aaronwong1977 in ky dont think its even armed tresspass in most cases but may be a misdeameanor rather than just a ticket

[@nokiot9]

Here in Arizona we had someone sue a restaurant last year for improperly displaying the sign, then calling the cops on the guy when they saw his gun. They had it on the host podium and the guys lawyer successfully argued that the owner “manufactured an environment in which my client couldn’t know he was breaking a law until he’d already done it” and then added punitive damages for his detention. Lemme see if I can dig up the case... I think the guys name was Sanchez- the defendant.

[@joem3524]

In my state "No Gun" signs do not carry 'weight-of-law.' Except in a few places (like courthouses) that are specified in legislation, anyone found carrying in a posted area must leave peacefully when/if asked by the property owner/manager to do so... or face trespassing charges [NOT gun-related charges, unless other factors (like brandishing, for instance) are involved].

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

Good thing I don't carry a Beretta M92.

[@andyprairiedog4829]

Yup........or the revolver one :)

[@kurzification]

I was told by a lawyer that it implies a company policy, not law. Just like no shirt, no shoes, no service. If they see you carrying a firearm and ask you to leave and you refuse, that is when you’ve broken the law and not just a company policy. Of course I mean for private establishments, not the obvious no carry zones like hospitals, government buildings etc..

[@ak-488]

Key words" If they SEE you carrying a gun",

[@radiohobbyist13]

Another good reason to do your shopping ONLINE. I don't see any signs like that on the Amazon website. Stuff gets delivered right to my door for LESS money. They can have the local mall.

[@overallgreatidea6433]

Ask the manager if he expects a police officer to obey the sign and walk his means of defense back to his vehicle and lock it up, then return to the store. If he responds in the negative, then ask him why he believes the officer should have a better chance of surviving than you should have.

[@Ryan-cr5qq]

What about signs that say, "no weapons allowed, unless otherwise authorized by law" Isn't a CCW authorized by law?

[@MichaelBlocksom]

Ryan Shiflet good point man

[@gamecapturemoments1]

I wondered about this too

[@crocketgsxr6]

Yeah like at most banks. I was a guard at one, and was told Police, Retired Police(with current valid department ID and carry privileges) and of course me as a agent of the bank. They are still CPZ signs.

[@MrDeviousdom]

Check with your state laws. For example, here in AZ, the following criteria must be met: 4-229. Licenses; Handguns; Posting of Notice. A. A person with a permit issued pursuant to section 13-3112 may carry a concealed handgun on the premises of a licensee who is an on-sale retailer unless the licensee posts a sign that clearly prohibits the possession of weapons on the licensed premises. The sign shall conform to the following requirements: 1. Be posted in a conspicuous location accessible to the general public and immediately adjacent to the liquor license posted on the licensed premises. 2. Contain a pictogram that shows a firearm within a red circle and a diagonal red line across the firearm. 3. Contain the words, "no firearms allowed pursuant to A.R.S. section 4-229".

[@b-right-on6707]

@@MrDeviousdom to the best of my understanding, those signs that say ARS 4-229 only apply to establishments that serve alcohol. Looking into statute 4-229, it appears to be backed up by subsection D, explaining that the department of liquor licenses and control will provide them to licensees at no cost. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, the sign only applies if it's posted on a white background and is the correct minimum dimensions, meaning one with a clear background on an entrance door glass is not applicable.

[@brookschurch]

Thank you guys for all the info! This is awesome info and very very happy to hear that there is a group that works in Ohio and Georgia! Will be moving from Columbus to Atlanta soon.

[@gunner240b8]

Guess you're doing a great thing with this channel, putting out some great information. Another great video!

[@dadbodincorporated4411]

Any business that have those signs doesn’t need or deserve my money. Simply give my business to their competitors.🤔

[@longgone9869]

But make it a point to walk in and let the ownership know that is what you're doing. In my experience, almost 70% of the businesses will eventually take those no gun signs down😊

[@dadbodincorporated4411]

@@longgone9869 good point, I think I will do that from now on. You would think in a Constitutional Carry state they would have already thought about this and how they could maximize profits by removing those signs.

[@36nick4truth]

A cop told me that sign carries the same legal weight as no shoes no shirt sign. They can ask you to leave, then if you dont you can be ticketed for trespassing.

[@qzb2ymig]

Depends on your location. I'm no lawyer, but Virginia is like you say, they first have to ask you to leave, and it's trespassing if you don't. Other states you can be arrested merely for having a firearm in a marked area. Know your state and local laws, and don't take some internet rando's word for it.

[@dknollRX7]

It depends on your state. Some states all they can do is ask you to leave. If you leave peacefully, there’s no issue. If you resist, they can call the cops and you can get in trouble. In other states, just being caught carrying in a gun free zone can be enough to face fines and penalties.

[@richardadamczyk4022]

Magic Man, you are absolutely correct about Kasich. He just recently showed his true liberal leaning just a few days ago.

[@jamesstewart4048]

In AZ, it can be anything from a class 2 missy to a class 6 felony.

[@kurzification]

Magic Man I live in Ohio as well, and a lawyer told me this wasn’t true for Ohio. You can carry in a private establishment and unless they ask you to leave you’ve broken no laws

[@tomquagliata9381]

I’m not suspending my constitutional right for a translucent sight on a door. I’m willing to endure whatever consequences might be in store.

[@TexasPapa13]

❤

[@longgone9869]

That's all well and good but why are you doing business with a company that takes an anti-gun position? Why would you want to give them your money? Is it so they can make contributions to the Joe Biden campaign?

[@nicolecurran9844]

I had a similar issue at a mall. they did not have signs on the door. they had a big plaque hidden in a spot you'd never see without looking for it, and in small print said no guns. My weopean became exposed and they tried to eject me from the facility as we were leaving a cop just happened by seen me be escorted by security and stopped to investigate. Cop informed them their sign was not proper and I was well with in my right to be there. The cop educated on what they needed to do to up hold that policy. They still haven't put up signs.

[@benbest123]

Good video and good info. As a fellow Columbusite I hope to see you around

[@MrKswildman]

Where I live that sign doesn't mean nothing, unless they have a metal detector and a security guard. If for some reason they see you carrying all they can do is ask you to leave, or they will have you criminally trespassed. Also the sign only work on CC. If you open carry here, they have to have a sign similar but says "Open carry prohibited."

[@rondouglas5147]

My NV CCW instructor said you can ignore the no weapons signs in casinos, you”re carrying concealed. If they see it and ask that you remove it, then you must comply or you are trespassing. If they see it and just call the PD. The PD will ask if they asked you to leave, and if you say no, they will do nothing?? So it looks like rules vary by state. Comments??

[@1scottburns]

Bottomline when arrested or approached be respectful and DONT TALK TO COPS!

[@rocky31186]

I'm glad you went over mall questions. I have been told ALL of Easton town center mall property is CPZ. Polaris mall is also a hard one as it does not have a gun buster rather it has a "code of conduct" after you are inside the building it states you can not carry in the Polaris mall.

[@whoeever]

rocky31186 CPZ?

[@rocky31186]

kvnkcrs criminal protection zone

[@Snblohm0514]

Just carry concealed and not wear any garb of 2A and stuff like that and no one will think twice.

[@jasonusaf6326]

I always ignore those signs. And nobody has ever noticed my tucked iwb carry

[@mef9327]

I've had my CCW for 30 years but rarely used it. A recent incident convinced me to be more diligent about carrying. I've seen a lot of ranges that offer various classes. Is there a best one? To clarify, I'm very comfortable with the mechanics of shooting and firearm operations. What I'm interested in is related to legal use of force continuum. Also, you mentioned your group has an office in Atlanta. I'll probably be calling next week.

[@kez3000]

Thankfully here in PA, "gun buster" signs carry no force of law.

[@unclegeorge6175]

Great Advice! I also wanted to ask you, is there a publication digital or not that compares CCW insurance? I don't believe that CU Report has done any reseach on this. Even better, what has been yours and your customer's experience? Your advise would be greatly Thx.

[@docholliday1811]

Great video!

[@ladamyre1]

In Florida at least, sign or no sign, carrying a firearm into a health care establishment is a felony, unless you are a police officer or are hired by the facility as an armed guard.

[@kevinlukasalan6576]

I hate to be this person, but in Indiana those signs hold no value whatsoever. No legal action can be taken. I do believe, the most that can happen is this. They ask you to leave and inform you about the sign, you informed them that holds no value, they call the police and went you trespassed. If you then return after being trespassed you get arrested. Although I usually do obey those signs, there's absolutely nothing to do in my town. The mall is the only thing to do, and it's full of teenagers and criminals and I feel more comfortable carrying

[@Scott-rw1xw]

What happened to the legislation in Ohio that was going to make violating one of those signs no longer a misdemeanor?

[@stevecook413]

If any governor had a backbone they would make mandatory carry. If you don't want to you can apply for a permit to not carry.

[@sethschuyler2771]

Strange thing is only the good guys ever obey these signs...hmmmm

[@tvbox6955]

*** Count how many times you say ahhh and umm. ***

[@Dopey_Fudd]

I am up in Akron area. In Wadsworth there is a restaurant chain who has a no-firearm sign. It is not on the door, but in the lobby entrance, about 7 foot up. Now, I'm fucking short. I just happened to be looking at the signs, and ornaments, and just happened to notice. It is not conspicuous. Well above most people's eyesight. Needless to say, once it was seen, we left. We do not patronize places that support American rights. Was not worth the don't ask don't tell policy.

[@stevevanhorn9275]

I live in Pa very close to Ohio border and used to frequent Ohio alot but since I have been ccw (3 years now) I stopped going to Ohio because it just isn't worth the hassle trying to find a business that wont discriminate against me and i really don't want my kids growing up without me because I'm in jail. In Pa they have to ask you to leave and that's cool....ill leave but they cant jail me unless I cause an issue....i think its just best to increase my own states economy rather than wasting it in Ohio where your rights are trampled on.

[@wtfdan817]

I visited Pa from Oh a few times in the last couple years and enjoy the freedom of being able to ignore signs while there. Actually, I don't believe any of the establishments I entered had signs. Maybe that's because they know it holds no force by law.

[@princetyler9886]

If a business becomes a no gun zone the owner has assumed the responsibility of insuring my safety and will have to pay for not keeping me safe when a problem arises! The more this happens you will see less of the signs and they'll definitely stop asking who has a gun!!!

[@againstit224]

No the owner is telling you to carry your gun and your business elsewhere. Just do exactly that. No problem.

[@TanTan-zw7wb]

can you put a link to the film ."don't talk film" please, thank you carry on!

[@TexasPapa13]

If every state would just honor the Constitution we wouldn’t need to have these conversations.

[@M_of_the_U]

What is the law on selling a p80 you have built? Please help answer this question for me and thank you for the videos

[@ericeastmead7770]

we need an updated version and can you add in Georgia

[@nickmckean1057]

What about Easton? They have a no gun policy, but I had to find it in a paragraph of policy on their website.

[@larrypatterson3957]

I don’t know about other “insurance” companies, but CCWsafe will not cover you in a deadly force incident inside a CFZ.

[@drewschlosser26]

Do you have a link to find out BY STATE if no guns allowed signs have any legal standing? I've heard of states that require the legal code to be on the sticker for it to have any legal standing

[@myblacklab7]

The best answer to a bad guy with a gun is a "no guns" sign. Chuckle.

[@AyumiBushido]

My job just put one of those signs on the door and our rules clearly state in our hand book that its prohibited to carry anything that is considered a deadly weapon. I’ve had jobs where the parking lot was prohibited to carry your gun was that legal?

[@jeffgiacomel792]

My Hunting bud is an Attorney , the Lead Attorney for our State Rifle Association and years ago got Concealed Carry passed in the State. He sent to all these entities that have the No Gun Sighs that, since the State has passed Concealed Carry Law for people to defend themselves and they are denying that Right that should anything happen, he let them know he will take them to Court.

[@dragonson72]

A business can refuse service for any reason

[@jeffgiacomel792]

@dragonson72 First of all, it is Concealed Carry. Secondly your statement is flat asking for trouble... unless you set up a Private, Membership Only Establishment. Just like the Christian Baker who was targeted to bake a Cake for a Gay Wedding... As to the CCW Issue, the Lead Attorney of the Texas State Rifle Association, that got CCW through, sent Correspondence to the owners who refused CCW, even though the weapons were Concealed, essentially saying that the Business in denying CCW and the Rules of the State on CCW, was taking the Safety and Protection of the Customers upon themselves. He also developed a list and informed those Business owners of such. The signs came down in the majority of businesses. So, if your business is open to anyone in the Public and you are denying the State intention of CCW then the is responsible. You don't suppose all the mass random shootings now seem to take place at facilities with "No Firearms" Signs on them since you? Like.... Schools, Bases, Hospitals, Churches... it's probably just coincidence. Why don't you pick another reason, another Constitutionally Guaranteed Right to use to exclude someone.... how about something listed in the First Amendment?

[@longgone9869]

You would be surprised how many businesses are willing to take their no gun signs down if they realize the signs are costing them money. Over the last few years I've approached seven businesses about removing their signs. Five businesses took their signs down, one business went out of business And the seventh business still has the sign up. If the business is mandated by law to have the sign there's not much you can do other than to try and legislatively make a change. But as far as businesses where the owner has chosen to put up the sign You should make it your job to approach them and let them know. I simply walk in and asked to speak to the owner and the manager I give them a card explaining my position. I thank them for their time and I leave. If at some point the sign comes down I start doing business with them and make it a point to personally thank them for removing the sign.

[@gamingmedic7377]

what about in the states that the signs have no legal bearing like in WA?

[@BigChiefTomTom53]

WoW, that's an awesome beard... I had a good amount of length to mine, but I cut almost half of a foot off the other day!

[@genej501]

The whole idea of concealed carry is that nobody sees it. Think about that

[@wydopnthrtl]

If we would have a BB gun class in about 3rd grade for ALL children.. this wouldn't even be a thing.

[@TexasPapa13]

Our school had a shooting team

[@bannisteryort5330]

Hello im in illinois laws are similar to ohio does the sign has to be a particular way in order for it to be enforceable. I have seen all black and white signs no red no wording

[@ericcampbell8881]

Ohio is now a constitutional carry state....the law states no guns allowed can be posted, however does not apply to those legally allowed to CC......that should mean your legal due to CC in Ohio....is that not the case.

[@robertkreamer7522]

So can I assume that the establishment that has that sign has assumed full liability for my safety and protection and if I am injured in any kind of criminal activity they are fully alive because I am a business invite and they are obligated to provide a reasonably safe place they have now announced by that sign that they will keep all criminals out so that I am safe . don’t tell me that in Ohio there’s some kind of statue that says that they can’t be held liable if some activity occurs that would be totally unconstitutional

[@rondouglas5147]

I had a different impression of those sighs. Maybe it differs by state. I thought that if there was a No Guns Allowed sign that it’s was not a crime to enter with a CCW, it’s hidden anyway and nobody should see it. If it is spotted, they can ask you to leave and if you don’t, then you are trespassing and breaking a law. I know some casinos in NV have signs, never look for them, but have always carried there. Thoughts on this?

[@bcork9381]

Link to the "do not talk to cops" video???

[@josh48315]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ml6aoGyujtVqm6c

[@daleweller5193]

I refuse to do business with anyone that doesn’t recognize my 2a rights.

[@dragonson72]

And a business owner has the right to run his business the way he sees fit, I'm sure he thinks as little of you as you think of him

[@goodtimes4172]

I live in indiana and I see that u are not aloud to carry in the state fair but what about the elkart county 4h fair?

[@AdamWeil]

how about a shopping plaza that has a couple signs up at entry points to the parking lot, but not at the doors of the businesses?

[@tx9cuda]

I'd like an answer to that too. Very confusing.

[@villafontananorte]

This is why I can't understand about getting a CCW and or CHL. You are limited where to go and you are only allowed to defend yourself when you are outside of a place, in an open place, or inside of your car. I should be allowed to walk in a supermarket or pharmacy with my concealed gun. If I know I will go to a supermarket and then CVS, I would not take my gun at all and leave it in the house to avoid issues. Thanks for your videos!

[@forensicwow1639]

Just Go North! Without a CHL in Ohio, I can’t drive with the gun loaded and accessible, the ammo has to be separate. When carrying it has to be open carry, if anything covers the gun then I could be arrested, if I open carry into a place like Walmart and somebody calls the police and tell them I’m about to shoot it up, again I’m probably going to have 15 officers with guns pointed at me yelling “PUT THE GUN DOWN” that is why we want CHL’s because it gives you more rights with it than with not.

[@EUSA1776]

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

[@patrickhenry4675]

How about this scenario? The Mall entrances directly to the outside parking are clearly marked. The anchor stores, Sears, Pennies, Khols etc. are not marked. When you go from an anchor store into the Mall interior there is a long list of rules. Rule 16 is no gun. Is there any way that would be considered conspicuous? I have to feel the Mall is being sloppy on purpose. When I got my CCW permit in Ohio the Police Officer that did my certification course told me enter the Mall through an anchor store and no police will arrest you unless some kind of major scene unfolds, but if asked to leave by the Mall, leave.

[@---cr8nw]

In Missouri, it has to fit these criteria: "one or more signs displayed in a conspicuous place of a minimum size of eleven inches by fourteen inches with the writing thereon in letters of not less than one inch". I'm not a lawyer, but to me this would exclude nearly all of the signs used by businesses. The signs are always too small to be legal, sometimes the lettering is too small to be legal, and sometimes there's not even a sign. Sometimes businesses just stick letters on the glass. This is not conspicuous and it certainly doesn't meet the standard of "one or more signs... with the writing thereon...."

[@lawrencemarocco8197]

Isn't it odd how the places that post the no gun signs are exactly the places most likely to be the scene of gun violence by criminals?

[@John-to3ri]

I was at a Meijer in Ohio, they had a blue sign with the pic of a gun with the line across. I asked a manager about it he said its for no open carry. Is their a difference?

[@ericw3229]

In Michigan the Meijer stores had them too. A Meijer family member was a GOP congressman. During last year's primary this was brought up and his campaign and the Meijer chain got a lot of negative feedback. By sumner the signs were changed to no open Carry. My guess is Meijer did not want any more so the signs were changed

[@chris.3711]

In some places I live at, there are signs that say 'No weapons?' and a picture of a gun with the red line over it. Now that is so broad that it leaves me rather confused.

[@robertyoung9589]

Don't be confused. Just carry concealed.

[@swarupnandi8468]

If any person thinks that weapons is a symbol of violence then that person absolutely wrong weapons is not a symbol of violence terrorist is a symbol of violence weapons is used for protection and toy guns is used for playing by a children's and metal gun keychain is people talking as a gun model.

[@dragonson72]

It's a symbol of protection as long as you are willing to take another human life in the protection of yourself or another if not then a gun has no purpose

[@rdaugherty52]

Why would anyone know about your gun its supposed to be concealed.

[@johnsilver7150]

So is it against the LAW or NOT to enter where a sign is up????

[@DocM.]

Can you clarify more about all the different "No Guns Allowed signs" please? 1. What are all the different No Gun Signs 2. What do these signs mean? Are theyb all punishable offenses, no excuse I understand Government establishments and post offices are very strict, but what do these multiple different signs really mean?

[@stevenwoodward4974]

Attemted to stop a rape and was jailed 2 months.

[@funnyman2783]

Would this mall be the Easton Mall?

[@williamarnold1963]

What u think of uscca

[@jdmerwin]

What can we do to stop Senate Bill 260 in the Ohio legislature. It's going to ban all semi-auto magazine-fed weapons in Ohio from the looks of it, is that true?

[@gamecapturemoments1]

jdmerwin If that bill is what you say it is, it'll pass when hell freezes over.

[@84lglg]

Dig a hole and put them in or put under water like a pond

[@CSAccetura]

Eli Dicken, I will follow his lead. LOL

[@pawelatut]

Can i use an AR pistol as a ccw?

[@dward4644]

My question is that my instructor who taught my concealed carry class said that your CHL overrides and releases liability to the establishment. Is this true?

[@superacer1]

Negative. In ohio.

[@Dopey_Fudd]

@@superacer1 exactly. From my gathering, even with our constitutional carry, private (even if it's technically public place) supercedes our law. And ultimately what they will do is ask you to leave. If you immediately don't they can get you for 3rd degree misdemeanor trespassing.

[@Loadrunner620]

A rule not a law. Might get banned from property but not arrested

[@steveg2406]

It can be difficult sometimes; But I simply go elsewhere when encounterring these type signs as a matter of common sense....Of course "common sense" is rarely used by majority of modern people...

[@largelarry2126]

Never spend your money with someone who hates you.

[@loumac241]

What sign????

[@tyla4200]

Put the link in the description to your professors video

[@Godisgood13208]

What about a no guns.. but there is a cop in the place with one?

[@MAGDUMP]

Don't know about you guys but I personally never been in a gun-free zone 😎

[@myblacklab7]

Wait - so is it illegal to bring a gun into a place with a gun-free sign in Ohio? If so, what's the statute, what's the penalty, etc.?

[@someonenew3547]

Can you suggest an attorney such as yourself in Massachusetts. I am not really familiar with any attorney specializing in the Second Amendment. Guns and gadgets is a KZbinr who is local and has excellent information, however I don't think he's ever covered the Second Amendment attorney

[@Nobody-11B]

someone new You guys are in a tight spot in Mass. G&G is a great channel! That said no idea you need a constitutional lawyer out there, somebody big time. If ya need to park any gadgets someplace, may I recommend my safe here in Ohio...lol

[@MunitionsLawGroup]

Yes, we have somebody. Feel free to give us a call.

[@rudelo]

Majority of shooters love no gun signs. The Maine shooter chose 2 no guns locations. Need to ban no gun signs for the safety of the people and more law abiding citizens should carry. An armed society is a polite society.

[@TheFUpodcast]

Do you guys work in Florida too?

[@rebeckabedard6742]

What about carrying at your own place of employment that has a “no gun zone” sign, but that employer (who elected to put the sign up) has given an employee permission to carry? Would there be legal ramifications if someone besides the employer called a LEO?

[@GeraldCollinsJr73]

Rebecka Bedard Get That permission in writing

[@markmaugle4599]

In life in CT and the constitution, article 15 states “Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.” The state of CT also has a No Guns sign law. My question is dose this law violate my rights under the State Constitution? I completely understand your response is just a personal opinion.

[@matthewlee9728]

theres a good argument to be made that it violates your rights but you also have the right not to go to a private bussiness and they almost certianly reserve the right to have anybody they wish leave the property

[@TexasPapa13]

Luckily those signs on the thumbnail are not legal in my state. They have to have the 30.0_ statute on them as well.

[@draco47man]

As long as the picture doesn't look like a glock I'm ok

[@brenthensley3347]

What do you think of Ohio Senate Bill 260?

[@DannySchneible]

What if there is a sign conspicuously located, but only with writing, no "gun busters" image/graphic? In other words, it's just a sticker with text on it saying something to the effect of, "firearms are not permitted in this building."

[@wtfdan817]

I am not a lawyer but, my understanding is it still bars you. The gun buster sign as it's called, is just the recommended sample of typical signs available in packages for business owners to place a their entrances. My understanding is they come in a package along with the no smoking, no shirts-no service signs etc. It's up to the business which signs they post and some businesses just post them all with no thought about it.

[@michaelhayes7471]

Ah hell I don't read to good I thought it said no dogs allowed

[@comeandfindme.45]

Personally, I completely ignore all of those signs. They don't know I am carrying, but in my state of Minnesota there are some buildings where you will loose your rights to own firearms. That being said, I will protect what's mine no matter the cost!!!!@

[@THE_ICON_OF_SIN]

That's why I love Indiana. Those signs don't carry the weight of the law. You can carry anywhere a no gun sign is posted except for schools (gun can be left inside your locked vehicle and not in plain sight on school property though) no state buildings like courthouses etc, and the state fair among others. If you cc in any store or business and they find out it's not a crime of any kind. All they can do is ask you to leave. Which you should do immediately lol. Because if you don't leave when they ask them you can be charged with trespassing.

[@mortykatz2236]

In Florida they aren’t enforceable

[@dragonson72]

You can still be asked to leave or you will be trespassed

[@Gunpowdermaniac22]

Does Black's or some other case law define conspicuous?

[@blankblank1813]

Why don't law makers address the definition of conspicuous? Seems like that could save us all a lot of churn. Also, if a mom&pop store posts a "CPZ sign" (great phrase!), is the shopkeeper or cashier permitted to have a gun behind the counter? Yes, it's his/her store but the verbiage on the sign says "authorized" which is taken to mean only LEOs. If the owner isn't an officer, is he breaking the law? Lastly, if I am in a business that has a No Gun sign and I am injured or killed by a criminal, is the owner responsible for failing to adequately protect me? I would think he would at least be culpable for negligence to provide a safe environment.