The Half/Whole Diminished Scale - Peter Martin & Adam Maness | You'll Hear It S3E33

Piano Week continues with Peter and Adam showing off one of their favorite scales to use.
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[@luxolontamo4440]

This is amazing ...I had lost hope in my piano playing but ever since I discovered you guys I am so confident and have a strong feeling that I can do it..the way you break these concepts down is out of this world 💆‍♂️

[@mlberg2327]

Ever since I recently started learning jazz piano, every note seems fine to me. As long as you don´t stick around too long on the notes that might sound a bit "sour" it always sounds good to me :) So being a sloppy improvizer with limited theoretical knowledge, I sometimes hit "bad" notes, but I feel like you can always save it by landing on a more clean note after. Learning jazz piano has really opened up a new world to me of more unstable chords and sour notes that I just love to play around with. I´m starting to worry that my ears are terrible and it´s sounding horrible for everyone else :)

[@grantholland421]

Great podcast! Thanks, guyz. Comment about playing non-scale notes with the H/W diminished scale: If you view that scale as a polychord of two full diminished sevenths, then the other 4 notes that are not in the scale are the remaining full diminished seventh chord that you were not playing. Now, suppose you modulate a 1/2 step up and play that HW diminished scale. And now what used to be non-scale tones become scale tones. What I am suggesting is that - with this HW diminished scale - instead of thinking "non-scale tones", you can think "modulation".

[@iluvjazz7]

Grant Holland Bingo! Good stuff here!

[@modyawny8155]

Is there diminished Half-Whole b13 ??

[@SlavaEremenko]

You guys have good personalities, I've started enjoying the podcast

[@ELBolo125]

I used to call this scale the "predator" scale

[@acr1ter]

5:28 saving this for myself

[@thorsteinssonh]

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[@apga1998]

As a pianist, don't forget... you can play every note(where nothing is incorrect)...but your audience may not want to hear it. Use the octotonic fragments sparingly! Melody, men, not cacophony! That is what people will pay for.

[@nixonkutz3018]

A short step from creating tension (good) to cacophany (bad?)

[@amyga251]

Have you listened to either of these guys? You might want to check out Peter's piano work. I understand what you are saying, and it could be useful as admonishment to some, given in the right forum - but these artists? To be honest I don't know of a more essentially tasteful living pianist than PM. kzbin.info/aero/PLfzhoASWHeiF_fCQtTTHh_eme_1A9xMsT

[@apga1998]

Amy Burcham thank you. I agree they are excellent. A word to the wise is sufficient......

[@iluvjazz7]

Alan Goldstein you mean consonants and stuff that resolve? I don’t think they are trying to write a piece. They are just exploring the science of interesting chords, scales and treatment options from an improv perspective. Remember some artist will not let money dictate where they go creatively. Especially if they don’t need a heap of money. Lol, I need money but love these guys and their podcast is awesome.

[@apga1998]

iluvjazz7 I agree their podcasts are wonderful. Since these artists are influential, my comment was a reminder to all aspiring artists never to forget the audience. For example, have you watched Jazz2511 on KZbin? Watch how he works his magic. Good luck to you.

[@jackgalloway8314]

So the whole half step?

[@mitchelledels9762]

HI PETER AND ADAM GREAT video . So basically if you use a half diminished scale you play a b9 #9 #11 or 13 or b7 chord BUT if you use WHOLE half scale you play a diminished chord only ? OR b9 #9 #11 13 LARRY Carlton was doing something interesting he was incorporating the half whole diminished scale with the blues scale on a Db7#9 take 3 notes from the scale adding the blues scale

[@trentwaterman7049]

these two guys are the coolest cats ever

[@thelonious-dx9vi]

Good lesson. I actually don't think of this scale as "half-whole" on the root of the dominant. I look at as whole-half up off any degree of the rootless b9 dominant, the synonym of the diminished chord. I think it's partly because I play guitar, and see the shapes on the neck that way, but I'm not sure how much that has to do with it. It's not that I never play off the dominant root, I totally do, and I hear the sounds and note relations to the dominant. I just mentally see it this other way, and I think it's easier to always know where I am in the endless symmetry.

[@guymann9567]

Wow ! Really enjoyed this ! I seem to hear Joey Calderazzo use this scale ... you guys are great! Thank you !

[@eneojoechajohn6625]

Please I thinks u should teach this course I really need it if u can

[@paulrodberg]

From a superior planet

[@roanmccormick7923]

Loads of harmonic food here !

[@richardadeymusic5698]

So Nerdy... -guess I'm a nerd-

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[@garrybrown7372]

Quality!!!

[@rasolzamini8678]

tank you