The Hardest Thing to Explain to Jehovah's Witnesses (About Their Own Religion)

[@jasontempleton2445]

I love the video about the Australian Royal Court inquiry. They were asked. " are you a leader or not.." And as they tried to deny and dodge the question the Commissioner popped up and asks " I don't understand, you set the social structure.."

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

“It’s easier to fool someone that to convince them they’ve been fooled.” - Mark Twain

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Good quote!

[@milesverde2439]

They do actually believe in the trinity: Jehovah, the Organization, and the Governing Body. To leave the Org is to leave God. To question the GB is to question God. In my experiences, I’ve seen that even doubting Jehovah’s existence is less frowned upon than doubting the GB’s legitimacy. Great video 👍🏼

[@beautyRest1]

Totally agree! You cannot criticize the GB period!!

[@stoobpendous]

That's the biggest plot hole yet!

[@orientbythesea]

11:58 0% success rate? Wrong. I was a PINEMOBGT (physically in not entirely mentally out but getting there) and many of your videos helped. Hearing you talk to your Judicial Committee really rooted out some VERY deep biases towards wanting it to still be true. I knew i was finally free when i felt 1000 lbs lighter in my soul and can actually begin my life in my 30s. Thank you.

[@altworldly]

That’s wonderful! Thank you so much for reaching out, I’m so happy that I could be of some help. I definitely relate to being PINEMOBGT 😂 Congrats on your freedom 🙏

[@leonsaadiq7628]

That’s something I realized while waking up. I tell this to my pimi wife, and my sons who I’m trying to help keep their critical thinking while being indoctrinated “God is not a religion and a religion is not god.”

[@ladyflea3105]

"...his tone of voice is punchable." Bahaha! I died 🤣 But yes! I experienced this attempting to separate God from the Borg with my parents. I had lots of beef with Elders ruining my life with their bad advice and subsequent neglect, so my parents told me the usual, "The organization is imperfect, but don't leave Jehovah!" And I just blinked and said, "Okay" and they were so confused and flustered and I told them that I felt closer than ever to Jehovah and as if he was finally blessing me now that I'm not part of this religions. Then the sighing and head shaking started because their poor stupid child thinks God is a spirit entity and not a bunch of Pleasantville esque suburbanites that must be pleased or they won't speak to you anymore... makes me very sad

[@deepfriedbrains__437]

I went to the Ford dealership and they would only show me materials saying Ford was the only choice a thinking person could possibly make. I meditated deeply on this information and was about to head over to the Chevy dealer to make sure this checked out with them okay. But on second thought, who needs a 2nd source really? It's just a car; it's not like this choice will impact every waking moment of my life going forward or anything 🙃 love the channel 👍keep it rolling

[@angelgear]

I think a tricky head trap that happens with a lot of JWs is that many I've known, like my mom, are generally very smart ppl who can understand critical thinking to a degree, but are simply trained NOT to use it on anything related to watchtower period. I feel like ppl like that are probably likely to wake up under the right circumstances, but it's almost like a catch 22, if there is no pressing reason to question, and your biases keep getting reinforced, it just becomes completely invisible to you... I don't know just a thought i had... Great video!

[@jeffreyl5151]

Man you hit the head on the nail. I also believe or come to the conclusion in my 25 years plus being out is that they willfully ignore facts, if they've been in for a long time I believe its a wrap for them, they're going no where. They've invested too much time to leave.

[@bearwoody]

Woof! Beard's lookin good buddy. It was reason enough to watch.

[@makundananda4946]

I just want to say I really enjoy your video and sense of humor. The one thing that really helped me wake me up was “old light” vs “new light”. For example, The Faithful and Discreet Slave taught for most of the 1900’s the One generation teaching, that ‘this generation will by no means pass away before the end comes’ - and it was PLASTERED all over our literature for decades and taught at meetings endlessly. In fact in the 1980’s and 90’s we were counting the days and keeping track of how many of the anointed ones are left, etc. Then one day - Bam! - it’s Overlapping generations! (Which you later realize it was out of necessity because they ran out of time and everybody died from that 1914 generation). So, I think about that, and I’m like you mean to tell me that Jesus *knew* the ‘one generation’ teaching was wrong this whole time, for decades and decades, but just let his Faithful and Discreet Slave teach us inaccurate and rotten spiritual food anyway ?? Why would Jesus allow them to teach an inaccurate teaching for decades? Or , you’re saying Jesus himself taught something wrong for decades upon decades?? That doesn’t wash. How can you trust any of their teachings or ‘new light’ going forward knowing they didn’t get accurate information from Jesus and Jehovah before? It’s because it’s a man made religion, that’s why. It’s because their “Truth” is wrong and turns into ‘Old Light’ right before your eyes if you’re in this religion long enough . I hate to be so harsh, but we JW’s were tricked.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Well Done! You covered this very nicely. Thank you!😊

[@anonymouswhiterabbit]

“His tone of voice is punchable.” -AltWorldly I am so glad you managed to put my feelings about Splane into words. 😂😂😂 (And for the record, your early videos helped me wake up, thanks, man.)

[@altworldly]

That’s amazing!! Thank you for letting me know, I’m so glad they were of help

[@exjwwokeup1617]

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not allowed to question the governing body.

[@garysherwood6357]

6:05 "We may not agree but we make a damn good team" LOL

[@messynessygrace8567]

When I told my sister about the ARC she said the same Jehovah’s will sort it out I said he must be doing it now as everyone is leaving and waking up to the lies they have been told but all the witnesses will say is the love of the greater number will cool of and that will make them believe it more 😂🤣😂🤣I think it’s good to remind them of John 6:68 when Simon Peter answer him Lord to whom shall we go ? You have the words of eternal life it’s Jesus Not the governing body 😡😡😡😡so glad I have got out after 30+years and to anyone who thinks there bible is good please do your research 🧐

[@zedolvero4515]

I was brushing my teeth at 4:30 and thanks to you my toothpaste is all over my mirror 😂🤭

[@zedolvero4515]

On a serious note though, you’re editing MADE this for me. When you trail off saying something ridiculous and the frame gets smaller? It’s a great visual for what I remember doing mentally when I was PIMI. Like I’d experience cognitive dissonance and it was trying to pull the emergency exit handle 🙊🚫

[@krissykatportal]

Omg Jake! I can relate to you sooooo much. It’s like your line of thinking is identical to mine! That was one of the things that bothered me so much….not being able to look at anything critical of watchtower or even the Bible. And I’m like wait a minute if god created me with these critical thinking skills then I should be able to explore any subject I want. If witnesses had the truth, they would welcome any criticism because if you have truth on your side, nothing else matters.

[@kauaichronsdan5146]

Krissy, that’s an amazing common sense…..if they are the truth, then there shouldn’t be anything to hide… but not to them, they rather disfellowshipped to keep the secrets hidden

[@sbrightpink]

Where else would I get my spiritual food🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤟🏼

[@eviefriend3976]

When I decided to read the Bible( NOT the NWT) without the Watch tower I became a Christian, not a JW.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Yeaaaaa!!!👋

[@kroger_krazy]

#1: your floofin’ chonkers that make video cameos are everything but not the only reason I watch, I swear. #catmom #2: thank you for the insight on helping people see the feedback loop. I will try this with my dad when the time comes. #3: “his tone of voice is punchable” 🤣 Thank you for your continued videos. Your voice is so important.

[@opietwoep1247]

A year before I awoke I told a coworker no JWs are not a cult. When I awoke about a year ago I tell her every so often how wrong i was and she was right about them being a cult.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

That's great!!!👋

[@worldlywoman9136]

The entire "imperfect men" nonsense excuse given by jws is sooooo frustrating! Great video! Hope you're doing well 🤘

[@heatherjohnson3002]

My boyfriend's family are jehovah witnesses. I grew up with a strong Christian background. When I was approached with a lot of jehovah witness information I had a lot of questions for them. I told them that any time a religion makes up their own bible I am going to be suspicious. They don't follow a traditional bible. It's all about control with them. I have always been a thinker and a lot of red flags went off when I started studying with them. I stopped studying with them. It's a total cult. I had bad gut feelings about them. Thanks for the video. It was spot on.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

Hi Heather, I am a strong Christian, and was saved in 1978. My brother has been in J.W.'s since the 1960's. I trust only in the Bible and measure every Bible preacher, teacher, evangelist, etc. by the Bible (KJV for me). I measure them all against what the Bible says. Studying the word of God helps us tell the genuine from the fake. The New World Translation is not the Bible, and will not lead anyone to the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. The N.W. Translation is a scam along with the "governing body" which changes what Jehovah says at the drop of a hat - "new light". This cult has robbed me of my brother since the '60's.

[@NIL0S]

Actually kinda proud looking back at how I argued with my PIMI relatives about this. I got away from the cult really young, and back in the 80s and 90s, so the Governing Body was not that prevalent as it is now with the e-preaching/begging. But when I found out that the JWs have these sort of popelike leaders I immediately distrusted it and pointed out how human made and corporate the religion suddenly felt. It started to all make sense. If the elders were deeply flawed individuals, so could the not so discrete and holier than thou slave.

[@bigskypioneer1898]

Awesome video. Your logic and presentation are flawless. As far as the dealing with the circular reasoning you can get from true believers - all I can say is that the only thing more painful than watching someone visibly experiencing discomfort because of their cognitive dissonance, is remembering what it was like when I was _that_ person caught up in the cognitive dissonance whirlwind of rationalizing illogical thinking that on some level _I knew_ was nonsense.

[@helenhollis3984]

It was years. No. Decades. For me to help a family member get out.

[@Hlegzudas]

Maybe God IS bringing out the truth from the media…. That is exactly what I told the elders…

[@rasklaat2]

The main issue is that in the rational conversation you only can engage with their consciousness. It's in their subconscious thinking where they are firmly held captive to 'the faithful and obdient slave" and its organisation. Any attempt of such conscious mind to entertain the thought "what if Altwordly is right, let's consider that" is met with immediate response of the subconscious saying: "NO! DON"T EVEN TRY! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WILL GET FOR THAT! DO YOU WANT TO BE SHUNNED? AND THEN KILLED IN ARMAGEDDON?" what basically forces the conscious to find a way around, out of the conversation.

[@dallasgeralds3706]

Only 3 minutes in, but you talking about your conversation with your parents.... that's pretty much exactly how it went when I talked with my dad. They mentally are unable to separate God from the org because it's all they've ever known for 60 years. Great content, keep it up man. :)

[@Shutterbuggy.]

Same with me and my dad! It's insane and super frustrating 😤

[@polystrate1]

@@Shutterbuggy. If I ever told my mom, she would run away and retreat to her bedroom like she did with other convos I've had that she didn't wanna hear.

[@chriscortez2036]

It’s an incredibly sinister yet intelligent tactic. Makes the GB completely immune to criticism regardless of their abuses and flaws: “Oh so you’re criticizing me the speaker of god? Then you are criticizing god himself and are therefore, sinful and misguided. You should learn to be more obedient and treat my authority- I mean GOD’s authority with more respect. Now do as he commands!!!”

[@dallasgeralds3706]

@@chriscortez2036 Exaclty, you've hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately it's also a classic case of "There's no way I'm in a cult!" Even though that's precisely what's going on.

[@Shutterbuggy.]

@@chriscortez2036 OMG, yes! 💯

[@dinotudisca3821]

Correct me if I am wrong but during the 40 years in the wilderness didn’t the Israelites lose gods favor multiple times? Were they not gods chosen people? Did god not in fact punish them on many an occasion? Why is not possible then, that “gods chosen organization” could also lose gods favor and blessing for not actions not in agreement with said god. In fact that god may actually be punishing the org for going against gods commandments. That all being said, I am an atheist. Larger point though is that WT never applies the same logic and standards to their own organization as they do all others

[@KiwianaYT]

The biggest problem with the bible is that humans let another person interpret it for them. There's always someone else on a podium reading and spouting their interpretation to a congregation. What is wrong with reading and interpreting it yourself? And finding correct morals? Since when should we allow other people to control how think about and interpret something? Never! Think for yourselves people haha, awesome video bro!

[@robertaluba7368]

I've found the biggest problem with the bible is it takes up so much space on my bookshelf. I could totally fit an extra roll of Covid hoarded toilet paper up there. Wait! I just had an idea.

[@KiwianaYT]

@@robertaluba7368 lmaooo that's a good one 🤣🤣

[@Trotoloko]

If they didn't do this, Christianity would have been disposed off long, long, long ago. Every Christian sect does the same in one way or another. Catholics call it "hexegesis", for example, and Catholics will even scream at you that they will not read the Bible without "their manual" the same way JWs do... All the same in the end...

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

You have to get a real Bible and do just that. That's what I do!

[@ablue7335]

This is EXACTLY IT!!! So f’n ridiculous!!! Absolutely circular thinking, always an answer built in, human rulers indeed!! Thank you so much for this!

[@jeneb52]

You did great and pretty well the standard with most JWs, they are like horses with blinders on to keep them going forward! My parents are dead so there's no need or hope for my mom to leave, dad never was a believer. But one day what you said may grow and sprout a small doubt in their brains.

[@bumblebee5164]

Yes!! Exactly!! The reasons you weren’t getting any answers was because the answers were coming from the same people… the GB and the answers always fit their narrative. I just kept hitting a brick wall when trying to research things. With either no answer or answers that often made no real sense when you really thought about them. Great video, thank you 😊

[@stoobpendous]

How about this: Say- Someone asked me "How do you know that the faithful and discreet slave was chosen by Christ in 1919? What is the evidence?" I did research in the publications but can't find anything that answers the question. Can you help me? Then, after fruitless research, the two of you write into the Society for the answer. Now, your friend or relative is personally invested in getting a response. And six months later when the jerks at HQ finally get around to answering, you both will see their bullshit answer. Seed planted!

[@marciomaia4020]

You just might be the new Lloyd Evans bro. Keep it up.

[@CaroAbebe]

Well, as a JW, you’re not given access to older publications that might contradict the governing bodies current teachings.

[@bootvillain]

Thank you for the humor it really helps lol also love the FF7 music in the back

[@kauaichronsdan5146]

I’m a dangerous PIMO here, bc I’m proactively gathering plethoras of info and planning to take out many with me as I can. I used to pioneer, but bc I never REALLY believed, I sucked at it. I don’t have the same reach as you, but I’m convinced I’ll reach many to leave as well. You are bringing a bright light on their false teaching…. Keep it up!!!

[@valkeakirahvi]

I love the cat! :D

[@unmutedmentallyout]

1:28 seconds in and I just have to say I can’t believe the Final Fantasy theme song is playing in the background 👏 👏 🤩 Okay back to deprogramming 🙏 Edit: 4:20 in and this is so experiential for me because I just attempted this exact conversation with my PIMI mother. and “Ahead on our Way” is playing 🎶 a song I’m about to practice soloing on my 🎻

[@swiftvillain920]

Great video and digging the FF7 remix in the background 🙌🏽

[@TheThirdRider]

The Governing Body don't control the members lives huh? w13 11/15 - Simplified But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not, because obeying these instructions will save our lives. If you don't obey you'll die. They love this line and have repeated it frequently since 2013.

[@jolinamaitland0356]

We should get all PIMO's to disassociate the last week of December. So next year's "growth" will be -30%

[@jamjam4822]

You are craaazyyy!!! According to GB. Lol. All your reasoning is dead on. The fact you haven’t been able to wake any JW up shows how brain washed they are. But wait, so was I at one time .lol. Good vid.enjoyed it.

[@johannpascher]

One of your best Videos! Is exactly as you describe. i tray to show them videos about other religions like Amish, Mormons, Scientology ... so the don't tern there Face away because it stuff from "apostates" and just hope the see parallels.

[@dianeexley1709]

The ONLY place their doctrine is found is in the publications. Without them there is no doctrine.

[@bigskypioneer1898]

One thing I noticed in your judicial meeting was how the elders would tell you that the Governing Body represented Jehovah on Earth as the (gag) discrete slave and that they were inspired, blah blah. But as soon as you challenged them on something they couldn't defend or didn't have a canned answer for was "well the Governing Body is only human." It's a rather convenient "get out of jail free" card isn't it?

[@pinkgorilla99]

You are really putting out good content. I enjoy your channel and humor. Hope your health is improving. Keep on keeping on! ☮️

[@governingbodylanguage2025]

Alt, You made me laugh, again. Thanks. I thought of "Me Talk Pretty One Day" by David Sedaris. Kind Regards, GBL

[@linzrojo]

Never a waste of time you’re doing amazing sweetie 😂😂😂😂

[@tommysmith5479]

At the time of writing, 2 JWs have given this video a thumbs down... obviously, they don't like being told the obvious.

[@cubonefan3]

At the end of your future videos , can you do a Q&A section for common jw questions that a jw may ask when waking up?

[@omni-]

You do such important work keep doing what you are doing!

[@archangeljesus4369]

Jehovah's Witnesses resume their true ministry door to door September 1st after being in quarantine so make way for the true religion

[@omni-]

@@archangeljesus4369 ??

[@Oyzatt]

Once's peoples convinced themselves that something is true or right and they've many peoples supporting that belief, which work for all or not to some extend, it becomes impossible to convince them otherwise.

[@pelletized]

the question i always have difficulty with when talking to my in relatives is 'what other organization goes out and preaches the good news worldwide?' i've tried everything i can think of to overcome that, from saying 'i'm not talking about any other organization' and even 'is what jw's preach actually 'the good news'?' but i struggle with any follow up retorts. Anyway your videos are awesome and funny at a time when people just waking up need some humor!

[@makundananda4946]

Yeah, that’s a tough one when talking to Kool Aid drinking JW’s. So they preach worldwide AND protect pedophiles worldwide - what kind of God are they serving then? But yeah, it’s almost impossible to make them wake up. Don’t the Mormons preach their ministry worldwide?

[@ingramwright5399]

What preaching? Looks like it's all televangelism now. Even that is all lies and stupidity.

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

It isn't good news to be told that, unless you bow to whatever these men tell you to believe/do, you are going to Hell. The only bright spot in their message is that Hell is not eternal. You die and do not exist anymore. The problem with that, of course, is that if they were to read an actual Bible, they would find that Jesus, Himself preached and taught more about eternal damnation, eternal flames, eternal punishment because we are spiritually eternal beings. The reason Jesus Christ took our sins to the cross of Calvary is so our sins could be paid for and we would escape the eternal punishment of Hell.

[@sandraclark2235]

I like to compare the governing body to the Pope. Catholics, even female, can and do disagree openly with the Pope with no consequences, even though the Pope is considered infallible. The governing body does not claim infallibility, but disagreeing with them has serious consequences.

[@marcilambert2906]

I like to send a text or something like that, which the org never quotes or uses. Like scripture that says Jesus is the light of the world., No one comes between God with me(Jesus). I'm paraphrasing these, but you get what I'm saying. My mom said "where did you get that scripture"? 😭 I was hoping that the mind control would have gone away for a fleating second. I hate that this makes them seem dumb. Which I know they're not.

[@pennybeeflower]

Thank you for your thoughts. I think that by holding each jw responsible when their leaders keep moving the goal post and trying to erase the blunders by destroying the literature gives them feelings of guilt at least. Remind them that their god and jesus expect that they must take the heat/liability/responsibility for their Governing body's actions and if the govnt cracks down on jw for bad behavior it's the jw person not the govbody that suffer the consequences.the same way every actor in a crime is culpable. When the society does not release the pedophile cases to the courts, it is as though they themselves are protecting the criminals and that is what onlookers/worldly people see also but they will be expected to answer for it.

[@pennybeeflower]

I called the branch office and asked the elder (who can not pass my call to a superior) why the literature keeps being recalled and that we need to answer to the public why so I want to know why from him he can not even say.. He responded only that we have to be obedient to the ones taking the lead. I said that he is the one taking the lead so he should have the answer for me as the scripture says to "make a reply to anyone asking The response [crickets peeping] He pushed me to expose my self in writing to the headquarters. I told him because he picked up the phone and can't pass me on to a superior he is acting as GOD therefore must follow Geoffrey Jackson's testimony and the branch office/him must take it to the headquarters when scripture is violated. GOD does not change but they make HIM out to be as fickle as the wind by destroying what their jesus told them and now retract without an explanation for us to provide to anyone who asks us why?.

[@jolinamaitland0356]

I'm loving this chill music

[@katb945]

Many are trapped and have to much invested, and have doubts and think what if it is true and play the game.

[@lavernethomasbey6822]

I think now those who are pimi dont want to wake up and take responsibility for their own lives. My sister hides in JW to not deal with her guilt. Today if you want to wake up there is plenty of support.

[@lovefaith6285]

My parents have been in this for 50ish years and it would devastate them if they woke up after all these years. What sets me off is when my mom does the whole, ".....and you don't love Jehovah!" when she comes over and I refuse literature. 🙄🙉🙉

[@laymanphil8513]

The JWs have "some difficulty" (lol) to understand that the god of the Watchtower is in fact only a cardboard god.

[@gmeorghemarcu4100]

Thanks from a JW

[@ApostatePajamas]

lol damn funny. The doubling down on their dogma when they are faced with an argument against it is why I avoid those discussions. The only time you would have half a chance of waking anyone up, is if there is any sliver of doubt in their mind already, so I guess it still might be worth the effort. Plus attack of fuzzy tail lol

[@truthseeker9360]

You are so right I'm currently a Jehovah's Witness and getting ready to leave but that is the point. They have it set up that the organization and God are intertwined....

[@Grenadegorilla8]

Is that final fantasy 7 music I hear in the background?

[@alicebanks3230]

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[@jetsbabe8807]

I just never understood why the term "wordly" exists. It's kinda implying anyone who isn't is better than

[@katew.9402]

Thanks for the video! I wish I had some real zinger I could throw at my believing JW family members, but I'm afraid I don't...

[@90zuk4]

Yea, I subscribed just to say it was a waste of time. Seriously funny, good stuff man. Keep it up.

[@lprosser5841]

(For Christians/believers:) Romans 14:12. We don't answer to men. If they want to follow the Bible, that whole passage helps to recognize that ultimately, we "render an account...to God", that men aren't authorized to judge us. Also, Romans 8:38, 39... NOTHING/NO ONE is authorized between an individual and God. (Except their mediator Christ, if Christian... but that's perhaps a tangent...)

[@HGANGHONY]

They're not trinitatians, but leaving the Watchtower is equal to leaving Jehovah. But, maybe they are trinitatians, believing the Watchtower, Jehovah, and Jesus are one.

[@stevejohncrowe]

Follow the money... When does the JW hierarchy ever provide money to needy JWs? - ever? When do the slaves provide money to the GB? - always.

[@adrianabakic8985]

“His tone of voice is punchable” lol!

[@CRNomad]

Love the FF7 music in the video.

[@Martinj1417]

I have been asking how do we know the is correct? Point out all of contradictions in it. Two flood accounts, two creation accounts. The fact that during David’s time Jerusalem has only 5000 living in it. And Judah had about 45000 not millions. There was no written Hebrew language 1500 bce when Moses “wrote” the first five books. I could go on and on.

[@whatistruth1914]

Thanks for the video! I would ask a JW, if you don't follow men, who then does follow men? Give me an example please, the Catholics, the protestants... and why? They too say they follow the bible!!! As someone said: if you want to know who the leader is, ask who you are not allowed to criticize!

[@srich7503]

I think you are very misinformed on who is capable of criticizing the pope or the Catholic church. A simple youtube search will show a plethora of bishops and cardinals doing so and still being considered catholic. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@whatistruth1914]

@@srich7503 that is exactly what I meant! A Jw can not criticise the governing body and still being considered jw! So they have human leaders, the governing body!

[@srich7503]

@@whatistruth1914 👍🏻 ok - thats not the way i read your post.

[@krissykatportal]

Also I would like you to please put all the videos in the fridgeformethanksverymuch 😎

[@mikespilligan7840]

Talking to witnesses is like holding a space hopper under water just when iyou think you've got it, it pops up somewhere else.

[@junick2012]

It is nearly impossible to help a jw see anything wrong with the watchtower organization. I think until you can personally see it one day and allow yourself to develop doubts no matter what others say how accurate or factual it may be it doesn’t work.

[@joegonzalez842]

The rank and file com up with the most ridiculous answers. I asked if Jesus said no one has has seen the FATHER, and in Exodus 33:11 Moses talked to Jehovah face to face is Jesus a liar. I said NO ! , Jesus said the FATHER not Jehovah, Moses saw Jehovah the god of Israel, Not the FATHER. The answer they gave me was that Exodus 33:11 is a typo.

[@R.Oates7902]

@@joegonzalez842 A typo? Interesting.

[@joegonzalez842]

@@R.Oates7902 indeed

[@sbrightpink]

His voice is punchable✊🏽😭😭😭😭

[@Z4kYb0I]

The hardest thing to explain to an ex-JW is that they might STILL be wrong. They either fall to the side of Christianity...or atheism. Two sides of the same coin......and they will never see the other side.....EVER! However...the rim of the coin.......sees both sides of the argument. The rim of the coin is the narrow path described in the bible....the balance between the extremes.

[@joegonzalez842]

The rank and file com up with the most ridiculous answers. I asked if Jesus said no one has has seen the FATHER, and in Exodus 33:11 Moses talked to Jehovah face to face is Jesus a liar. I said NO ! , Jesus said the FATHER not Jehovah, Moses saw Jehovah the god of Israel, Not the FATHER. The answer they gave me was that Exodus 33:11 is a typo.

[@joegonzalez842]

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[@joegonzalez842]

@NonCoinCollector I guess we travel on the same highway, I Just found B. Collier view interesting. That's about it

[@joegonzalez842]

@NonCoinCollector I wasn't raise a JW But gave them 5 years of my life, 5 years i can't get back. Glad you enjoyed the video. remember "Religion is the opium of the people" Karl Marx. ( And controlled by fear. )

[@samivilla3595]

Can you make. A video talking about how mean JW are to woman

[@euphorik3120]

throughout the whole video you explained the issue without saying what it is - 👉 organizational idolatry. "You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, Yehowah your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods." now read 2-Thess ch2. have a nice day 🙂

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

J.W.'s have accepted that "the organization" is the oracle of God. When the governing body has "new light" J.W.'s are supposed to take that as "gospel". My brother has been in the cult since the '60's. I am a Jesus Follower/Born Again Christian (whatever the label should be for a real Christian - not just a church goer).

[@kathleenmckeithen118]

In addition, they do not read or even have the Bible. The New World Translation couldn't be farther off from what the actual Bible says/teaches. I prefer the KJV because I was raised on it and have a lot of verses memorized.

[@dianeexley1709]

Imperfect men....🤢🤮 Diabolical men...👹😱

[@rickyoung360]

Show them how the Watchtower has altered Gods Word. All you need to do is show them what the New World Translation says then compare it with the Greek in the Watchtowers Interlinear. Game over.... Do you believe Gods Word or the Watchtowers word??

[@kingofthedots3835]

Ding ,ding ,ding ....it's not a religion ....start there dude 🤪👍

[@jamesluccarella9167]

Yes you are on the money. Here's how I go around that then back to it in one conversation. Make the impossible for them to understand statement! There is no such thing as TRUE RELIGION! Just like trinity true religion is not mentioned in the bible.

[@HGANGHONY]

I would ask them to defend their faith, not using the New World translation published by the Watchtower, starting with John 1:1.

[@altworldly]

That’s actually an interesting idea. JW’s are told to inform householders that they can use their Bible translation of choice, but are JW’s really comfortable defending their beliefs once the familiar language of the NWT is taken away from them?

[@warrengraham5419]

I think the main problem with this conversation is that it ties your hands behind your back. You by not disputing god or the bible themselves, are dealing with assumtions about faith and evidence that do not lead one optimally to truth and many routes of error correction are unavailable to you.

[@Trotoloko]

Mmmm... nice FFVII main theme for starting the video.

[@helenhollis3984]

Are you aware of others attempting to get people out of this cult?

[@stephanosgavrielidis9334]

Since you left why you keep coming back talking about them ..?

[@altworldly]

imo there’s a lot to talk about

[@incrediblystupid8483]

There are two types of answers: One for the non believer in God (you) trying to help the WTness see. And one for the ex-WTness who still believes and has faith in God but wants to help his-her, WTness friends see their problem.