The Hat Chat Podcast #7 - What's Up With E3?

[@MANGO-SAXON]

You guys have been lacking on the dogfighting content recently, it's the only reason i subscribed.

[@mossfoster5317]

the comments about turps in the bathroom haven't aged well

[@25Dzone]

Best fingle of all time.

[@rusinsr]

Talking about Turps entering the restroom reminded me that one TIP intro lol

[@Coraxons]

I've just gotten ill, and when I was sad cause I had re-watched all the new podcasts, there was a new one. Thank you guys so much for your simple, yet reflected "pub-chatter". You're my favorite nobs

[@dr.inferno9205]

bad scooter pub chatter is a great way to put it

[@dougpowers]

I've binged hat films from a hospital bed. Sometimes you just need to listen to a bunch of funny twats to make yourself feel better about feeling shit. Hope you feel better.

[@TheSpeedyCola]

What an intro, I learned quickly to not play The Hat Chat our loud in front of your parents.

[@Imwritingthisnotefrombeyondthe]

Or just them in general.

[@Fiendishfool]

Would it be a stretch to ask for maybe longer podcasts? Most of us really enjoy the catered conversations

[@Ali-ey9sz]

@@sliver170 So does good cop argue for no podcast at all? That would be the darkest timeline ngl.

[@zephyrmop]

Nooooo. I struggle to fit in a 75 minute podcast as it is. I mean if they wanted to do longer podcasts, then perhaps they could utilise them as a patreon reward for those who want 2 hr podcasts. I can't see the point in extending the time if it's only for 15 minutes, and extending to 2hrs would take a hefty amount of their time.

[@moondusk8385]

Just love Hat Chat.. makes my heart smile when i am feeling blue. Thank You.

[@andysmith3910]

Jedi Knight II Was immense More proof that Al Smiffy is my spirit animal

[@awesomeaartvark]

A potential two weeks until the next one!? Aww, okay. I will patiently and excitedly wait until the next one comes out then!! And Hat Daddies, back again? Yes plzzz, hehehe

[@AhkoRC]

Gonna hard disagree on the "streaming games is the future" stance. It might be fine for content creators or people who pick up and drop games 50 times a year. But the day I can't own a system and own the games to play on it, is the day I'm not buying them.

[@jacobgame2757]

Its hard to get a disk of a PC game anymore, which is sad. The Hats said it was to make it easier to buy games, I think its more that you can share disks, you can't share digital copies of games. Thus more sales.

[@AftershockWolf]

You are unfortunately in the minority for sure. Streaming is 100% the way any digital content will go

[@AhkoRC]

I don't believe I'm in the minority in the slightest. The only people I've heard in favour of streaming are content creators who pick up and drop games like it's their job or something. They are an exception to small to even call a minority.

[@bearbrain1123]

@@AftershockWolf yeah mate he isn't a minority at all, the idea of streaming games and not owning my games is HORRIBLE, I'd rather stake myself, if this is the future I'll just go play my old consoles because I'd rather that then get ass fucked by major companies.

[@ChannelDotTheDot]

If possible after his official doctor check if he learns anything interesting or vastly different from the allergy video results could you make another video with Trott talking about it? Edit: Or even possibly talk about it in the following Hat Chat perhaps?

[@jacobgame2757]

The doctor will just say its fine, they always do. They are paid by the government to pretend that everything is fine unless the government can make money from it. ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL!!!!! #AntiVax #FlatEarth #AliensAreReal #BushDid9/11 #VacTrott

[@cinemartin]

Hat Chat is just great, keep em coming also please play more Satisfactory? you guys introduced me to it, and I'm addicted, unhealthily so!

[@tcrime]

Personally I've got no interest at all in a "streaming only" console AKA rental service. It's just a way to milk consumers while giving them less, in my view. Fast forward a few years and Google decide to shut down Stadia, kiss goodbye to all your games. No used games either. Oh, and if you lose your job or something, you can't play your games anymore. No thanks.

[@rdizzy1]

I'd be happy with it, as long as the games are cheaper due to this fact. I don't frequently replay games after I'm done with them anyway for the most part, especially 5 years later.

[@tcrime]

@@rdizzy1 Have a look at the prices on the PSN store. Tons of stuff on there is nearly full price but you can get a used copy on disc for £10.

[@rdizzy1]

@@tcrime Yeah but you are essentially comparing a new game with a used game, as a digital copy will be equivalent to a new copy, no possible physical issues. I will be even more happy if they have varying prices to just have the game for a certain amount of time (1 week, 1 month, 3 months, all at varying prices). I don't even buy physical copies as it is, because I only play most games for a short period of time before letting them gather dust on the shelf.

[@braderzs101]

great episode this week lads

[@pepaigea]

That fingle was *chef's kiss*

[@JoshieBradley]

I fucking loved hat daddies, please add that segment

[@richardrises]

Keanu is marketable (see: interesting) because he's kind and down-to-earth. There's been enough interviews of him and enough of his own actions to show this, so seeing that - coming from John Wick and Neo - in a Hollywood climate plagued by people ranging from a clown president to Weinstein is, as you can expect, mildly revitalizing. People respond well to him. That popularity is deserved, no, *earned.* He's also the sort of person that doesn't really "diminish in personality," whatever that's supposed to mean. It's not like he's pandering a Mountain Dew Gamefuel next to Activision's 68th release of Call of Duty while writing a $40 million check to an oil company; he's in one game and fucking Toy Story. If two appearances by a genuinely refreshing celebrity is enough to get people aimlessly worried, then I think they severely misrepresent exactly what's going on. Actor takes acting jobs and is also a great person. More news at 11.

[@jamesshepherd8415]

The two 'soldiers' that save the POV character in the quarantine trailer are Vigil and Ela from R6 Siege

[@KyleBonnVA]

God blessyou Trott for being the only guy I've heard cover Bethesda that actually knows how game engines work!

[@zephyrmop]

Totally agree with Smith about the new star wars game. Just looks like your average corridor adventure game. All my hype from that game went to FF7 remake.

[@jamestiffin5553]

I love F1 I'd love to see you do content there or with the new game

[@dankirt15]

Completely on Smith's side here, if you need to take a slash outside a drain is better than a bush like Ross suggested. Less privacy but that's where wee ends up anyways it's also super damaging too hedges and plant life

[@alexphllips]

Ross doesn't want to look at Smith because he's too attractive, he'll fall deep into his ocean eyes!

[@ronjohnson831]

Is hat chat on iTunes yet?

[@AhkoRC]

It is.

[@quietstories98]

The thing about the poo jogger just reminded me of the time i was on the bus home from school and i saw a guy taking a shit in the woods, he must have thought he had gone in far enough to not be seen from the road, though didnt bet on a bus filled with kids, who where higher up than a car and so could see farther in, passing by...

[@JakeSteam]

You guys answered my question at 1:11:49 😍

[@krysimp.]

Sorry I'm late. Was crying at Dan Howell. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@quietstories98]

Wow same

[@krysimp.]

@@quietstories98 I'm crying still and phils tweet killed me.

[@bencosta2340]

I think that Ross and Smith are wrong about people not wanting to actually own their own copy of the games they want to play on a hard copy. Especially since the streaming model of games a) limits the amount of potential players in rural environments or countries were internet connections are not as dependable; and b) makes it so that the company, business, etc. that own the platform in which the game is streamed on can ban someone from using their platforms whenever they violate/"violate" they're terms and conditions. If/when that happens, the person who payed money for the right to play the game on their platforms (because when they stream they don't technically own a copy of the game itself just the right to play it) can not play it at all; even if the game itself does not require the user to be online in order to play it, they still need to be online to play the game they want to play. I'm not saying whether or not a ban like this has/hasn't happen to someone who deserved to be banned from the platform they wish to play on, I just want the security of at least owning my own copy of the game with a potential to either play it again or at the very least be able to get something back for it. And I'd like to imagine that some others share my skepticism. If you disagree and think that streaming will be a very stable and fine way for the future of gaming or think that its simply the inevitable outcome and don't care one way or the other, I hope your right and I'm worrying about nothing.

[@threemoo]

Who cares about bans.. Streaming only completely removes any chance for *anyone* being able to play the game after the Devs or the Streaming Platform decide to shutdown that game. It's literally like buying a game and in 3 years time the MIB come to your door, take away your copy of the game, and denuralise you so that game no longer exists! If this was the case 10 years ago, nobody would be playing Oblivion, nobody would be playing Mario 64, nobody would be playing games of the past because you wouldn't have access to them at all. This is the most dangerous thing to ever happen to gaming and it's gonna be deadly for all the millions of games that use it, since those games are automatically given a deadline for when they will no longer be possible to get or play.

[@evaahh9584]

threemoo the people who get banned for no reason care about bans?

[@rdizzy1]

@@evaahh9584 People rarely get banned for absolutely "no reason"from these games. I've been playing games, especially online games for over 2 decades, and have never even been banned, let alone for "no reason". There is usually a reason, and people are full of shit or just straight up lying. Now if you want to argue that terms of service for certain games may be too broad, or strict, sure, but usually, in some manner or another, people break TOS (usually multiple times) and then get banned. So if we only count legitimate people that have been banned for absolutely no reason, then only a few people must care.

[@threemoo]

Just wanna highlight that not being able to play the games *EVER AGAIN* after the companies simply decide that they don't want to support them even for single player only games... Is kinda a more pressing issue than Bans... Any bans.

[@rdizzy1]

@@threemoo Eh, I still don't mind it. As long as the games are slightly cheaper, I don't play them for long anyway (in terms of months or years) and then never touch them again.

[@joshsmith9699]

really enjoys this keep it up guys

[@twistedseven]

xbox one came out in 2013, so there is your 5+ years ^^ and like all other consoles, we have had a slim version... and to board the 4k hypetrain, they made xbone x (not really a new console, since devs is bound by the first versions hardware when making games). p.s. Good luck to hatfilms bubbleboy

[@theundeadcowboy8970]

I agree with the talk about the gaming industry becoming all about the money I have a hard time even buying a new game some times since they cost 80 dollars most of the time let alone a new console and TV to get the most out of the game For me I'd rather have a good story than uber graphics Dont get me wrong I dont want something looking like crap but if it has a bad story It's like a two pictures of a turf and one being less quality and one being crystal clear At the end of the day it's just a picture of a turd

[@Reson18]

I've seen alot of people make the same mistake about the Bauldurs gate 3 trailer, the game people talk about is "Bauldurs gate - dark alliance" thats not what bauldurs gate really is. I guess it must be more popular since so many people make that mistake. Dark alliance is a diablo-ish game where as the "real" Bauldurs gate is whats called a crpg, isometric view, you control up to six characters and its alot more tactical combat than it is a action rpg. hope this will clear up some future confusion.

[@PJBxx]

The "reason they couldn't port the original source files" for FF8 is because they literally lost the original source code. Square actually loses shit like that ALL THE TIME, and they aren't the only ones. Some of the old Nintendo games on their online store are literally ROMs they downloaded, because they didn't have the data themselves.

[@georgef296]

have you considered doing podcast highlights?

[@shaunlomax1]

Pretty sure it's illigal to cross the exclusion zone line around Chenobyl without permission... But okay.

[@vaderciya]

I recently got back into oldschool runescape, and the geniune experience of a good solid game has kept me there, it's the only game ive been playing, save for some time wasters on my phone. It was the constant bullshit coming from big game developers, just the sheer amount of terrible games that cost too much and have too little content, that brought me back to a game i knew was solid. I'd reccomend that anyone who's also fed up with AAA bullshit should also check it out, you can get 2 weeks of free membership for making an account on mobile (which can be used for either pc or mobile, its the same account and same everything, just with the optional ease of phone play)

[@AhkoRC]

Fishing level?

[@vaderciya]

@@AhkoRC 55 i think

[@AhkoRC]

Nice.

[@atomfpv1907]

Its bad to leave your fpv goggle optics exposed like that. Unless that room doesnt have windows...

[@payableondeath7]

I'm surprised they didn't even mention Banjo in Smash. I thought at least Smith would be interesting in the business perspective of that (not to mention their basically the same age as I am so thought they would have nostalgia for BK)

[@sweatyspaghetti500]

it connects to your rooter gg

[@chanmaydo2036]

oof i loved ffxv, i hope that just means that ill love the other ff games as well

[@ThruDarkness]

what's on the back of ross' laptop?

[@esr0012]

Question: Listening to you guys talk about how cookie cutter games can be, especially right now, and coming back for game mechanics, is making me think about the City of Heroes resurrection. That's an amazing game that just brings out love in people. If that's a rogue server that's living under the "preservation" loophole, are you guys allowed to play that?

[@MrSladeyslade]

Hive mind 6:55

[@CaaaaamOnYT]

have you guys still not got this bastard on i tunes yet

[@scm4998]

I wouldn't be surprised in the next few years we see an end to the 'console'. Google Stadia and Project Scarlet are going to start the movement for Gaming to move into the cloud. My only worry is that they are overestimating the average user's internet connection.

[@AhkoRC]

They also overestimate how many people want that.

[@dc619]

TEKINIKALLY FINAL FANTASHEE SHIX

[@Tom_______C98]

Daan Holleman is the man!

[@notgaryoldman1178]

The new generation of consoles are out next year, so a boring E3 2019 should be a surprise to nobody. Death Stranding, Dying Light 2 and Cyberpunk will be this generation's swan song and their release dates are already confirmed so honestly I don't know why E3 even happened this year.

[@danpelucci]

RIP Stadia

[@themoland5981]

Talking about Skyrim, Trott says it looked out-dated even back then. But I've just been through the old hat chats, where skyrim graphics was blowing their minds ... This is a completely unnecessary "call-out" but there you go

[@evaahh9584]

The Moland timestamp and episode please?

[@themoland5981]

@@evaahh9584 can't be bothered to go through them again tbh. Like i said it's a pointless point anyway

[@lesbiansquid1464]

yep, pre-ordered cyberpunk and watchdogs, one ive been waiting for years to release and the other is a breathe of fresh air, keep up the good work!

[@CayneOfficial]

I was wondering what you think about pre-ordering cyberpunk when it's so far anyway. No matter how much I love CD projeck red, I just can't bring myself to preorder this far out.

[@lesbiansquid1464]

to answer both of you, because i felt like it, nothing more nothing less, also i have a busy unstructured life and forget about alot of things, i pre-order so i dont need to remember later on.

[@f15htechtips]

M.2 Isn't that fast, NVME is what's fast

[@richardrises]

Despite having the luxury to spend thousands of dollars on computer parts, he still may barely understand exactly what he built.

[@ideadlift20kg83]

Xbox One X was never intended to be "next gen". They made that very clear. So people that do save money for 4-5 years will know that and wait for the actual next gen.

[@PJDuffield]

not alot of people bought an xbox one x theyre still on original xbox one\one s so the new one will be a big step up

[@JAGTube]

Agreed, and as an owner of an X i’m not annoyed at all by this. I knew when buying it that the next proper console gen would still come as the standard xbox one is starting to show its age.

[@kurosuna]

Balder's Gate 3... and yet to this day it hasnt been released...

[@jhowza2990]

Talking about the games nowadays being empty, I think game developers have gotten lazy due to the fact that they can put out updates so they dont have to release the game in full, I've found this with a lot of games like sea of thieves and destiny 2, the release of these games were shit but updates made them good. I would prefer a game to be released in full

[@BKnight_]

The whole Xbox Scarlet thing is a super over-advertised load of horse shit. 8K? 120FPS? 4K@60FPS? Ray-Tracing? Bullshit. The current top-of-the-line PC GPU's struggle to do those things properly and they cost upwards of £500. So, unless Microsoft plan on making the new Xbox £800, it's not going to happen and it's gonna be an extremely watered down version of what they say OR completely unreliable. For reference, the Xbox One X has the equivalent of a GTX 980Ti / GTX 1070 in it and struggles to get 30FPS at checkerboarded (fake) 4K. The only logical next upgrade would be a GTX 2060 which provides a barely visible RTX capability, the same performance as a 1070Ti and absolutely not a playable framerate at checkerboarded 8K or even true 4K. AMD absolutely wont be able to properly compete with NVIDIA's top-tier cards and so that leaves me with even less confidence too since they're the ones providing the GPU's for Sony+Microsoft.

[@theaces3697]

love smiths comments on jedi fallen order and how wrong he turned out to be

[@TheShadowNetwork.]

WATCH_DOGS: Legion looks sweet. Plus it's based in post-brexit britain.

[@HarshWinter101]

what about borderlands three boooiiiks

[@Spectrev2]

Smith is talking about consoles needing 5 years but doesn't realise Xbox One came out 2013 and PS4 2014.

[@JoeR-cd9jg]

Hes referring to the xbox 1x

[@JoeR-cd9jg]

@TubNub newer than the xbox1

[@silverkille]

Their lack of knowledge about game development really shines in this episode.

[@HarshWinter101]

more mordhau!

[@callummaurer421]

fallen order looks like force unleashed 2, I loved that. I think it has potential.

[@threemoo]

You think ownership is the problem? Do you have any clue how impossible it will be to keep things you own once that thing comes out? You say all these things about those cool games you have and used to play.... Well they simply won't exist once the Game Dev or Stadia *"Deem it not to be"* Yeah, damn right I quoted John Wick! You won't be able to "keep" games ever again once Streaming only happens.

[@richardrises]

There will be a market for both streamed and physical games. One will not replace the other. 1) There will always be latency for streamed games, so for any potential console esport titles, like Smash or whatever, that's simply out of the question; 2) Streamed games require internet. People play (or could want to play) games offline. 3) Even if Smith decrees that "people are over ownership," people still love ownership, and will want to own physical copies along with any goodies contained within, including collectors editions. 4) A subscription service may seem easy for privileged people or people that enjoy them, but many people can't or won't subscribe to (additional) services, especially if it becomes cost-ineffective in the long-term.

[@ewanbt227]

watch this video if u want some more hope about jedi fallen order: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4mbfYilm9V5ptE personally im pretty hyped for it, great chat bois

[@highvoltage7797]

For a company that focuses on games I never feel like anyone at the Yogscast actually knows what they’re talking about.

[@ArkonArchive]

I like how they talk about Fallout like they have a clue, play it first. Also Smith. You played minecraft for years. Stop fucking crying about graphics ffs.

[@theaces3697]

smith wtf are you talking about? the xbox one x came out in 2013 and the next console is coming at the end of 2020, its been almost 8 years this generation more than most of them xD

[@Jimmiejohn48]

Me: Yes I'm excited Hat Chat is coming back *turns on episode 1* Smith: Too many white men give their opinions *turns off* Me a little while later: Well maybe I judged them to harshly I'll give it another try *turns on episode 7* Smith: Every Conservative candidate is a sociopath *turns off*

[@user-co2ps4yo7k]

"unlike you libtard snowflakes, im not so easily offended" person has opinion "help me"

[@AftershockWolf]

You’re so fragile

[@Jimmiejohn48]

@@AftershockWolf Nah man if I wanna hear current events and shit I'll tune into people who know what they're talking about. I subscribed to these guys because they put out funny comedy.

[@dorrud]

Lol, boosh

[@Womza_Art]

First?

[@robinjohns8995]

Yeah, you are, got here third

[@Rizon1985]

BotW was a garbage Zelda and outside of that market it has to compete in an RPG market where it's concepts are almost 2 decades behind the curve. The whole point of a Zelda is starting with crap and building up your arsenal of weapons and gadgets. The whole concept is destroyed when equipment become destroyable without any way to repair or some expensive ritual to make unbreakable equipment. You avoid enemies in a Zelda when you don't have the equipment to beat them yet, you don't avoid them because they're going to break too many of your weapons and all you'll get back or some clubs. Not only is that a concept that doesn't work in a Zelda, it doesn't work in any RPG. There isn't a single RPG that makes you use so much resources on a pack of enemies and give you nothing worthwhile in return. Because it's simply bad design. You don't make a game where players feel punished by playing the game. You don't make a game where players are so heavily punished or completely unrewarded for playing the game. Even in a roguelike where you lose everything you had when you die, you still want to take the risks because it will allow you to be stronger after the sacrifice. In BotW you simply sacrifice and end up worse equipment. It's like they only test their game with dev cheats on or using 50 RFID cards spamming shit into their world constantly.