The Heart Of Sabik - FFXIV Lore

Ever since we learned of the existence of the Heart Of Sabik in ARR, we have had so many theory's regarding its origin. Happily we got to see it return with the conclusion of Pandaemonium.
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[@Sephiwoot]

This smells of, Ultima High Seraph. Last ring of the raid even has parallel attacks and theme as well

[@shadeofred7442]

Yeah if you’ve done the ivalice raids your WoL has the option to say “That wouldn’t have anything to do with Ultima, The High Seraph, would it?” To lahabrea, it’s implied that they’re the same or that ultima is some splinter from the heart of Sabik

[@Adam-th7qt]

@@shadeofred7442 and dialogue with claudien after the raids confirms that their best theory is that the heart came from the high seraph.

[@trenchoraguille5969]

Yeah, her smells are off the chart

[@WyrmLimion]

Now that the universe is open to us, a Calamity from the Skies might be on the cards :)

[@asatowolfe]

Still a bit upset that Ultima didn't tie into savage more. I was like 99% sure that's what it was building too. Missed opportunity.

[@BlackCap784]

some of the big questions left unanswered; - When did the High Seraph gained sentience? based off her TT card and irl collectable statue description, she was apparently merely an abstract concept, a symbol of ruination, with no will or thought of her own, until she gained sentience, self awareness feeding off the terrified reverence mankind had for her, not at all unlike a Primal summoning. if she somehow gained sentience before the sundering, that'd imply the high possibility Athena was given the auracite. but otherwise, if she only gained sentience after the sundering, via St. Ajora's summoning, that just leads to more question questions. - How was St. Ajora involved with the Heart and Ultima? the most obvious theory here is Lahabrea baiting them into his schemes, lending the Heart for them to use against Mullonde. but then, WHY summon Ultima? why not just cast the spell Ultima? that alone would send fear down the enemies' spine enough for them to surrender. - if you take the lyrics to Hic Svnt Leones and Scream, and take on the perspective of it about Athena's morality and sanity eroding away under the influence of the stone, then it takes on a horrific new meaning. but one particular part early on in scream has caught my intention; "O Lost Lamb, First to the Feast". would that somewhat imply that the Athena is the very first to have ever made contact to whatever weird power the stone is emanating? - in P12S, you'd notice in the background there being the body of a massive snake, neverending, possibly massive. naturally, it lives up to the Sabik namesake, the name of the constellation that makes up part of the Ophiuchus constellation, represented by the snake. this would not be the only thing having mention or relation to gigantic snake in-game; the Great Serpent of Ronka was once a destructive force in ancient times in the First before it was sealed. but the most damning mention of serpent was in the studium smithing quests; the Golden Dhyata mentions of a great serpent that "sleeps in the deep", and to stop it, "seven wedges must be driven into it's back". you will recall after beating P10N, a golden gate popped up where it fell.... containing what looks like 7 leaves or eye-like structure; the location where these "seven wedges" must be driven into? are there any relations between the High Seraph, the Heart, the Great Serpent of Ronka in the legends, and this serpent spoken of by the Golden Dhyata? as the High Seraph is described as an interdimensional traveler, were all 4 part of some much larger whole which got sundered by Venat? is that why the High Seraph came from another dimension? she was a sundered fragment from another reflection? or is there more dimensions out there BEYOND the 13 reflections of the source? - "Denizens of the abyss. From ink of blackest night". this is how the High Seraph and Athena summons their followers in battle. the Lucavi in FFXIV are basically just normal people warped by the auracite they hold, the form they take based off each individual, not on each stone. but yet, despite defeating Hashmal, Belias and Famfrit, they are summoned by the High Seraph as denizens of this "Abyss". it's evident it's not the 13th now, seeing as all three and Ultima herself are not voidsents. so; what or where is this "Abyss"? because via this incantation, it somewhat implies that all three Lucavi mentioned were not people turned by auracite, but came from the "abyss". if she possess such influence to summon them forth, why not summon Mustadio, Agrias, Cid, Argath and Yiazmat? if the Abyss is simply the aetherial sea, then why were they summoned back as Lucavi, and not in their normal forms? is that to imply that there's no turning back? - pure speculation from here on, but; what if there is some truth to some of the things Ultima, the High Seraph said in all her voiced lines? that she is the only god? that she is the mother of all creation. what if she, or possibly, whatever larger whole she was formally a part of, before she gained sentience, was some sort of primordial catalyst that lead to the creation of life in Etheirys? the auracite, while having a strong influence to living things, is not fully inherently evil, as was the case with Mustadio, Agrias and TG Cid transforming into Lucavi. rather than corrupt the individual, what if the actual power of the auracite is to drive organisms to ascend to greater heights? to push a single cell organism to go beyond it's limit becoming a multi-cell organism, then to further push that organism to ascend to various flora and fauna, and pushing said fauna to much greater heights, eventually leading to the existence of ancient mankind. if you've read the short stories, Venat's main topic of research was the source of all life in Etheirys, having finally found indisputable proof that lead her to become a traveler; what if she had discovered this source being the auracites, but never went so far as to mention it in full detail, in fear that it gets misused? what if Athena had figured out from reading her papers, and backtracked deep enough into what Venat was previously researching to somehow found an auracite? but again, this is just speculative rambling.

[@Sunila_DragonladyCH]

Interesting. But, would that mean that each member of the convocation made a pact with one of these alien entities? If so, who gave them access to them? They each wear the corresponding masks (Hermes/Hashmal; Elidibus/Zodiark; etc). But there were 12 of them, 12 Gods on Etheirys and 14 members of the Convocation. I have a feeling that the conclusion of our little games with the Gods will bring an answer to this.

[@BlackCap784]

@@Sunila_DragonladyCH yeah, no. you're leaning far too hard unto the territory of FF12 lore. the ivalice in 14 is not the ivalice we know of in XII or tactics, nor do auracites work similarly, whereas Lucavi's are not some demonic entities in their version of hell; just normal people warped by the stone. yes, i get that the convocation titles and ascian glyphs are based off the esper's glyphs and opposing scions of light in 12, , but more often than not, and based what we know as of this time, it's simply a callback to an older game by this point. but considering all we know about the ancients are only "recently" some time prior to the sundering, a utopian society like theirs would have had millenniums of history before they reached that point. we don't fully know how the convocation was formed, who it's first members was, what lead to it's formation, etc., so i won't wholly reject the possibility it ties in somehow with it's first members, but until then, it's all conjecture. also, there is no indication nor implication anyone in the convocation or the few that were corrupted by the stone's influence that they made any sort of pact, nor were they working towards the goals of some third party, beyond Zodiark and in essence their people. Athena's goals and ambitions were just that, verified by Memory!Laha "cut from the same cloth" comment; her own goals and ambitions. she was neither controlled nor was compelled by some other being. even the Real!Laha's warped goals and obsession worked towards Zodiark's revival and the unification of the shards, though his comment of "By My Will" (before Elidibus corrected him with "By His will") after 2.55 implies he was teetering off the deep end and was beginning to focus more on his personal agenda than the ascians. but the rest of the convocation? no, there's just no signs of it. but at a meta sense, the devs love their parallels and shoutouts to older FF games. FF7 had an ancient race that was eventually invaded by some alien entity that infiltrated their society via "The Thing" method. i'm certainly gonna not scratch out the possibility of some unknown interdimensional, soulless aliens having tried to infiltrate XIV's ancients society via some eldritch subconscious mind control, and saw some small success, Athena and Lahabrea being the two of them.

[@WyrmLimion]

These are very interesting ideas and theorys! Gonna explore them in the stream!

[@BlackCap784]

@@WyrmLimion then you best look up some of the various lore and related meme threads since 6.4 in the ffxiv subreddit, because a lot of what i've written were either from the users there, or inspired by some of the lore shared there, like the serpent mentioned in the studium smithing quest. i certainly didn't read all the theories and speculations posted, so there may be some good tidbits i missed. i honestly have a heckuva lot of unorganized notes by this point, but a large majority of those are speculations, because again; LOTSA unanswered questions. but that first question, in regards to the High Seraph gaining sentience, would definitely help narrow it down a tiny bit. one thing i didn't share though is the meta-level of the lore. i mentioned in another reply to another user regarding the devs loving to make shout outs and/or parallels to older FF games, and it's not wholly 100% out of the question they would make such shout out /parallel to FF7's ancients & Jenova to that of FFXIV's ancients. but one thing we know is this; the moogle tomestone event prior to patch releases often gives hints and alludes to future story elements in the patches, though not always immediately, often through the duties that rewards the moogle tomes. the two times (I think?) we got the Void Ark alliance raid being rewarded with moogle tomes was obvious what it alludes to. then there was the time the Ivalice raids was one of the highlights; evidently, it was referring to the Pandaemonium Raid story arc. but recently, we had the Nier raid as a highlight; now there is a possibility it was to promote the recent FFXIV collab in Nier Reincarnation. but let us entertain for a moment the idea that it may also allude or hint the possibility of a dimension or reality that ISN'T part of the 13 reflections. would that imply the High Seraph, also described as an "interdimensional traveler" be from a dimension that is not of any of the reflections? dunno. i keep saying this word, but seriously it's all we can do right now; it's mostly speculation at this point.

[@Sunila_DragonladyCH]

@@BlackCap784 Well, you just developed exactly what was on my mind. So in the end, not really that far-reaching, :) just the usual parallels with other games without copying the stories as such.

[@Rewwgh]

I never thought I'd see the day this soon. Only having spent 4 years in the fandom whereas the Heart of Sabik has captured the imaginations of many others for 10 years now. Reading many, many developer interviews gave me a mythical impression of this stone. Like it would never be explained and becoming a running gag by Koji and co. Glad that wasn't the case. And for you truly dedicated, old farts it is a resolution after a fashion. 😊

[@WyrmLimion]

Indeed! I can't count the number of times on this long journey that the subject of The Heart of Sabik came up with people scratching their hearts as to its truth. I hope this come around again soon.

[@ruthnovena40]

I must be honest. I assumed this blew up when we fought Ultima weapon. I have been around for 10 years. I liked how it was used to tie all this together. .

[@konekokrysta]

I love this game so much. Waited SO LONG to finally know what the Heart of Sabik is, only to leave with 1000 more questions!!! Time to start theorizing all over again 😄

[@WyrmLimion]

I cant wait, my minds already flowing with ideas and the comments are fully of likeminded souls!

[@Yokai_Yuri]

It is basically stated the heart of sabik comes from Ultima. It is one of the Auracites that she created( most likely). This means Athena was always being influenced by Ultima all along and as Claudien said, Ultima has been directly responsible for so many wars and death. Ultima is so powerful not even Hydaelyn could go directly against her as Ramza said.

[@WyrmLimion]

Id also speculate if The Occuria were behind these events as well, if we wanted to draw further from FFXII.

[@hashihime1703]

@@WyrmLimion Reminder that VENAT of all names is the name of the main antagonist occuria

[@axelwolf2115]

Lovely video Wyrm, I love how you explained everything!

[@WyrmLimion]

Appreciated Axel thank you for that!

[@gshimon]

i really think that in some way or another, the auracite and the heart of sabik will play a key role in the overall story arc of the next series of expansions, not like it will the core of one expansion but more like the glue that will help conect the dots of whats really going on behind the scenes, they are starting to set up the conecting dots for the next big arc and im so interested in whats coming next

[@WyrmLimion]

Fair point. We have seen alot of references to such in the last couple years, not only with the Heart of Sabik entering the stage again but the Memoria Crystals as well.

[@acedianPianist]

@@WyrmLimion One of the things that gives me pause is that the Last Stand tribe quest has a throwaway bit of dialogue that mentions the Ea and Grebuloff civilizations both found identical crystal formations on their respective worlds. The Grebuloffs, in particular, found them in the deep oceans. And all three seem to have appearances similar to the Memoria crystals, which are regarded as Auracite.

[@WyrmLimion]

@@acedianPianist Do you remember where you saw this by chance? I recorded all the quest dialogue but I cannot find the mention.

[@thesunthrone]

Great video! I think the influence on Lahabrea was that of Athena, rather than the Heart of Sabik itself. After all, he had severed his caring half and locked it away because he feared what Athena had done to him when they merged their beings in the past. That is also why it was so chilling to realize that all this time, the Lahabrea we knew from ARR and HW was in truth just Athena's mouthpiece, with her speaking the very same incantation that's seared into everyone's mind from countless Praetorium runs. But it also explains (recontextualizes really, but still) how even in ARR, Elidibus has to remind Lahabrea that they labor for Zodiark when Lahabrea speaks of his plans coming to fruition. It all falls in place when you realize it's not so much him but Athena that is the one obsessed, and the staunch and stoic Lahabrea we see in Pandaemonium by that point is all but consumed with her ambition, his soul all but completely overtaken by her tireless drive. I think it's also a good reason why Lahabrea was left unsundered, something that always felt a bit off when the concept was originally introduced. Elidibus and Emet-Selch, that makes sense - but why spare Lahabrea of all the Fourteen? But with the recontextualization of Pandaemonium, just imagine the absolute havoc if there were shards of Lahabrea/Athena across all reflections, all seeking their way to the Heart of Sabik, with the dormant memories of the mighty Ascian just laying there to be awoken! At least this way, Athena could be somewhat contained, and even then she clawed her way to the Aetherial Sea through the sundered, infected soul of her son. Ultimately, Athena is just so selfish and controlling and revolting that she's the perfect foil to the idealistic, self-sacrificing Ancients. It is only thematically appropriate that these qualities are all her, with the Heart of Sabik merely encouraging her delusions of grandeur. And it's good to have some villains that are just utterly rotten to the core and cannot be redeemed at all, simply because they would refuse the very thought out of pride.

[@Keldiur]

Long story short, if they take more from FFT its stated that Ultima can never truly be killed. We could see a return of Ultima and mix in an all consuming race that we find out uses the power of Dynamis to corrupt people's souls using methods like Auricite. We could throw in a lot of bosses like Jenova and Sephiroth into this storyline. It would work well as a raid series, using the ship to to to what they believe is their home planet... but we still have so much to do with the reflections still that I do not think it will work into the MSQ that well.

[@WyrmLimion]

I have a theory to share you with on Saturday that chimes with your own

[@BorgWolf359]

The Heart of Sabik storyline matches the Final Fantasy Tactics storyline! Crystals that transform the user into something/someone new! I think it may have come from the Seven Hells which I hope we go to after we deal with the other deities of the Twelve!

[@WyrmLimion]

You might indeed be right. We also don't know if her transformation at the end was not a result of this or her own machinations.

[@camposforce93]

"Lahabrea" lool that broke I was waiting Isildur. Haha cool video I am waiting for the continuation regarding Seraph.

[@WyrmLimion]

Thanks! It was on my mind the entire time after the raid ended.

[@seekittycat]

Great video love the clips 👌

[@WyrmLimion]

Thanks! I wanted to try something a little different with a splash more humor. And tbh LotR was on my mind through most of that storyline XD

[@pimsutter]

Honestly, it kinda feel like they are preparing a ff7 based story for an expansion. I can’t but help to see the connection between the game, the heart of Sabik and Ultima.

[@wontononionslicer1004]

Now that an enemy within is defeated, a meteor from the sky is fall down with an Alien in it 😅😅😅

[@Calvinooi]

Maybe Jenova bestowed the Heart of Sabik?

[@julinde]

Well, no. This would be a Tactics/FF12/Vagrant story mainly. The Auracite/Ultima stuff is from that franchise. I mean, they "could" throw in Jenova if they wanted too. But the references have nothing to do with 7.

[@pimsutter]

@@julinde that is true, but we do know that Ultima is from outer space, so who could more of her kind would came to the source?

[@WyrmLimion]

The Black Materia!

[@KitsuneSoup]

I think the Ophiucus / Serpentarius connect is strong, given many hints. We also know that the Ophiuchus stone in Tactics was a very deep green, itself bordering on black, where the Heart of Sabik is deep black with some color shimmer in the glow. I'm trying not to allow my mind to add green, but it's not all black. 'Sabik' is the name of a star in the Ophiucus constellation. The Heart of Sabik intensifies desire, and Ultima the High Seraph we've known for a while was 'an embodiment of pure ruination' [her TT card] eventually given form. We now that the Heart of Sabik is not of the Source's Star. We also know that the Nibirun created 'a Star without Strife'. To quote Meteion: Farther still, there existed a Star without strife. When none remembered life's trials, or its joys. What its people had gained from ease, they lost to Apathy. We also know from the Omicron tribal quests that the Nibirun obtained 'complete mental resonance'. They became overwhelmed by Apathy, having no Desire left. My current speculation is that the Nibirun gathered their negative emotions, or what they perceived as negative emotions, into a ball as they became more psychically aware of each other. Containing the energies of desire (the general source of conflict) into a singular point, they created what Athena would refine into the Heart of Sabik and sent it hurtling into the places between Stars, where it eventually found its way to Pandaemonium. We don't know where it was after Lahabrea claimed it, only that he 'kept it safe' until he took it out of Omega and it was left in the Research Facility when he was finally killed. It's not entirely unpossible that he hid it in Dalmasca, where it was then found and its corrupting influence created desire, then strife, then worship. No, I have no idea what this means for 7.0. But it does open a number of possibilities, including Dalmasca being a potential location for travel. Dalmasca is on the far south segment of Othard, and was a major trade port for international commerce. I suppose it could be possible that 7.0 could open with a missive from Hien, saying that the withdraw of the Garlean Empire has led to reopening trade to Dalmasca, or the Empire itself branching out since they are reopening trade routes. Then we go from there to Meracydia. This would also explain why there are currently no ports from Eorzea or Othard that connect to Meracydia that we are aware of.

[@ColdIronCoyote]

I agree. Hard to dispute it otherwise with the fact it is specifically called Auracite, and when Athena calls upon the power inside (the Lucavi) in her savage transition... There is a big freaking snake 🐍. If that isn't 100% confirmation that the Heart of Sabik is the 13th Zodiak Stone of Serpantarius/Ophiuchus... well what are we even doing as fanservicy lore enjoyers?

[@Boxkar24]

While I don't know much about Tactics, this seems pretty spot on to me. Well wrote my friend.

[@WyrmLimion]

Very well done!

[@keithfilibeck2390]

My guess is that it always guides you to eventually try and destroy the Lifestream of the planet you are on, it twists you to this goal so you can absorb all that lifestream aether and "become" what it is, just like Jenova.

[@WyrmLimion]

Thats an interesting idea. I wanna explore this some more on Saturday. Maybe its not the only time it happened O.o

[@TarossBlackburn]

So I feel that Ultima High Seraph might have been analogous to Jenova. A being that came from another Star and maybe fled its destruction at the hands of Meteion. It could've likely followed her path back to Etheirys and rested there until found by Athena. But... would that mean that maybe there is a version of the Seraph in every shard? They had White Auracite in the First...

[@moonelfe]

Didn't Athena found the heart of sabik before the Meteia went crazy? The link with Elpis we have is at the time Hermes allowed Meteion to destroy the universe, so the events of the pandemonium are happening at the same time

[@WyrmLimion]

Yep, she found it years prior.

[@emeraldpichu1]

Auracite is soul stone It contains the essence of a being unlike soul crystals which are just pale imitations they're obviously being possessed by something trying to escape most likely although it does feel a bit like a retcon since they've decided to detach it completely from zodiark and disassociate him from the ultima spell entirely

[@TroidHunter]

To me, at least, it paints a picture that Athena was subtly influencing Lahabrea without his conscious awareness, blending his devotion to Zodiark with the desire to awaken the heart. Convincing him that the best way to achieve his goals was to use the heart, which gives athena the greatest exposure to more potential paths towards resurrection. It would also explain why he was even carrying it around in A.R.F. in the first place. As we see from Elidibus, the ascians' memories of their former lives as ancients are potentially muddy due to tempering, only regaining their true memories in death. So I think it's quite possible that Lahabrea believed that Zodiark was the originator of Ultima, thus attributing "A sliver of my god's power" to zodiark when it was actually coming from the auracite. It's still a bit retcon-ish but it makes Athena and the heart of sabik seem much more sinister to me.

[@emeraldpichu1]

@@TroidHunter well it's a decent way to recycle on an unfinished plotline but it's still stinks of lazy.

[@emeraldpichu1]

@@TroidHunter It also kind of creates a plot hole with Nabrialius since he used Ultima to get rid of The students of Baldeson and it can't be chalked up to an invocation of zodiack anymore.

[@TroidHunter]

@@emeraldpichu1 Oh is the Nabriales bit part of the Eureka story? Not gonna lie I wouldn't be surprised if they just forgot about him, a lot of the less-important ascians are kinda hard to remember.

[@selakiir]

@@emeraldpichu1 we killed Nabriales in the Rising Stones when he tried to take Tupsimati, the Ascian involved with Eureka was Emmerololth, and It was the students led by Galuf who cast the Isle of Val into the lifestream to prevent her from using Eureka's power

[@Lyn685]

I wonder, if the stone is called "Heart of Sabik", perhaps it literally belonged to a creature or entity called "Sabik". I hope we will learn more about this

[@RedLuigiGames]

I'm really looking forward to fighting Sabik! I was hoping Sabik would be P12, but I think we will still see them and their race on a future expansion.

[@Catto217]

If that's true, maybe Sabik is one of cosmos godlike being like the celestials in MCU.

[@WyrmLimion]

A few people have been putting together the pieces, specifically about a constellation to which Sabik is part of. Its something ill be exploring during the Stream on Saturday.

[@sparthyslaysstuff2405]

Athena shares some parallels with FF7s Hojo. Both are researchers who drift into mad scientist territory after coming under the influence of an extraterrestrial entity that is using them to further its own aims and both Hojo and Athena have children with fellow researchers purely for the sake of furthering their research.

[@WyrmLimion]

I never thought of that. Yet another FF7 reference :)

[@Brendan_Johnson]

In Ultima weapons theme the Heart of Sabik is beating as if alive and its the heart of darkness. In ff7 Jenova Death was to appear in a black coat in the whirlwind maze and once it revealed its self it would be a floating heart. In Ultima weapon song it also says witness Ultima it brings salvation and destruction. The song also says the light retreats and rend the shield of light.

[@funklestiltskin6140]

I have a dreadful feeling that this is going to lead to some Lucavi shenanigans with our friends.

[@WyrmLimion]

It may just well be. Perhaps as we further explore the origins of Auracite we may encounter them. This could even be the basic of a future alliance raid.

[@crowdemon_archives]

It's going to result in another ass beating isn't it 😅

[@SniperKing-O]

Since this Athena was nothing but stored memory in the Heart of Sabik, potentially we may run into her sundered reincarnation on the Source at some point. And it wouldn't surprise me if this reincarnation somehow comes into contact with the Heart of Sabik. 😂

[@WyrmLimion]

I'm sure she's out there, alongside many souls that we don't recognise that also reincarnated. But with her soul cleaned I expect whoever they are they will be normal.

[@1337penguinman]

I doubt we've seen the last of this considering Dawntrail is going to involve cosmic exploration. I wonder if the catalyst for that is finding the origin of the heart?

[@WyrmLimion]

I get the feeling we will be seeing more visitors from other worlds, and I cant wait to mee them *holds up alien welcome sign*

[@cobalt968]

Possibly wrong but interesting theory: when Emet-Selch is introduced in Stormblood, he outright insults the late Lahabrea for purposefully drawing things out and spoiling their plans. In the Pandemonium raids, we learn that Hephaistos (Lahabrea’s worst aspects of himself) was utterly dedicated to Athena; and at the end of the Pandemonium raid series, Lahabrea merged with Hephaistos to gain enough power to carry out his duties. Could it be possible that present-day Lahabrea was not working solely for Zodiark, but also trying to bring Athena’s or some other being’s plans to fruition?

[@WyrmLimion]

Thats a very interesting theory! In the time between the Sundering and Present day he might have slipped further and further, only now his convocation allies are not paying as close attention. I like this!

[@nwickstead]

Big Fat Taco!!!

[@WyrmLimion]

My friend kept singing that through every pull. I ended up listening to the song itself over and over singing the right lyrics to reprogram my brain. Happily it worked XD

[@herozerox4518]

I see that people are making a lot of parallels to ff7. Here's something I thought of, In ff7 there is a Godess name Minerva which is the Roman name of Athena. Maybe we run in to a recarnation of Athena or maybe she reaches godhood and renames here self Minerva. She could be good or evil. Lol who knows but I would love some ff7 in ff14.

[@WyrmLimion]

I remember her from Crisis Core back in the day, big and powerful and hinted to be the planets will. I think Athena is too crazy not to have her return!

[@6-1-1]

You're telling me it was never BIG FAT TACOS 😢

[@WyrmLimion]

It can be, whatever you "Desire" *evil grin*

[@25xxfrostxx]

My question is, where is Pandaemonium? Before the sundering, Erichthonios said he sealed it and sent the crystal off into the aetherial sea so one day someone would find it again and prevent the creations from escaping. If the "pandaemonium" we saw and fought was a transmuted portion of the Aetherochemical Research Facility, doesn't that mean the actual pandaemonium is still out there somewhere? Also, Athena is basically Hojo. The one wing sticking out of the P10 boss combined with the other clues leads me to suspect we'll see a Jenova raid/trial series at some point in 7.0 - 8.0

[@crowdemon_archives]

I wonder if the sundering actually destroyed the Pandaemonium though, which also means there's a lot of pretty funny shite running around because of it.

[@WyrmLimion]

Lets not forget, Hojo survived that ass kicking lol

[@Banana-cc5rx]

I guess the theory that auracites originated from ultima and the denizens of the abyss are accurate. XIV is an ivalice game all along! I think ultima is definitely of a higher position than haedelyn and zodiark themselves. Don't forget in a couple of the ivalice games, zordiak is but an esper / summon as well. The power of the auracites allowed it to house the souls of the lucavi demons, which allows the demon to take over the host possessing the stones.

[@moonelfe]

Most of the things i wanted to say have already been said, but i must say it sounded like you said "Claudine" which is a girl's name in french, that poor researcher is Claudien, that sounds like Estinien... It made me laugh 😂 But, i'm glad we finally learn what it is, it was bugging me !

[@WyrmLimion]

Its a popular girls name in Ireland as well :)

[@yammez1]

I do hope they keep where it came from secret. A rock that has been around for thousands upon thousands of years with no trace of origin. Kinda spooky.

[@darkhand412]

6:13 My man should have dodged Larboard. Nobody can get that mechanic right!

[@WyrmLimion]

*shudders in Starboard/Larboard*

[@darkhand412]

@@WyrmLimion I put a dorito on myself (whm) whenever it comes up. I'm doing my part!

[@arcanine_enjoyer]

If Pandæmonium is gonna be another Crystal Tower type deal (being forced to finish the normal version to continue the story because it gets used too often as a plot device) I'll be a little pissed but understandable because I wouldn't have understood the Crystal Tower plot point in Shadowbringers

[@WyrmLimion]

Many people forgot it after so many years tbh.

[@maskedjack2746]

Wait... Why does it feel like the heart of savik story line is yet to end? Is it gonna be in another raid series in the future or something? o_O

[@WyrmLimion]

It may just build into something, many even the next alliance raid?

[@duraeusentenu]

You know the crazy thing? As soon as the pandemonium raids came out, I just had this hardcore feeling that, given the nature of Pandemonium's status as a research lab for the Ancient Ones darkest projects and Lahabreas direct involvement, that this would SOMEHOW lead back to explaining once and for all the mystery of the Heart of Sabik. AND I WAS RIGHT !!!

[@WyrmLimion]

You are a prophet!

[@vincentbeton]

I am still a bit disappointed from 6.3 when they added the Aetherochemical Research Facility to Duty Support. I expected they add a hint about what Lahabrea dropped when he got killed by surprise, but the cutscene seemed unchanged to me. I mean they did add an extra line to the Vault Ending, so why not this?

[@Boxkar24]

Probably weren't sure where they were headed with the story at the time perhaps? Or maybe the didn't feel it needed.

[@vincentbeton]

@@Boxkar24 Probably, aye. But we already knew there was another Crystal in Azys La from 6.2, would've been a neat addition. Else I have to wonder how no one found the Heart of Sabik, since even one of the Role Quests go to the place. Oh well

[@WyrmLimion]

That's a good point. Would have been a great chance for an Easter egg.

[@edgyguy7084]

Funny how the Heart of Sabik litarally is Aizen's Hogyokku...

[@costa4handsome941]

mindblown xD big fat taco is burned in mind xD

[@WyrmLimion]

Took me days to burn it out again lol

[@willsword8100]

I'm trying to introduce my nephews and nieces to Final Fantasy. Which entry would be the best for a young kid(12year old) to start?

[@Calvinooi]

I'd suggest FFIX because it's a pretty solid game (pleasant graphics for kids and with mature themes), unfortunately with no voice acting FFX is a nice modern era FF to start

[@WyrmLimion]

I would agree, Final Fantasy IX is the great place to start. I noted many that started with X and beyond found the previous titles less engaging without the VA's Its light-hearted as well!

[@Calvinooi]

@@WyrmLimion with the FFIX rumor these days I'm hoping that can be my future children's first FF 😊

[@WyrmLimion]

@@Calvinooi I really hope its true and turns out like we imagine!

[@fitriailmipermatasari2317]

with age consideration, I agree that FF9 would be the best entry. It has the simplistic cartoony art that made the journey just feels magical for kids to enjoy (look away from the traumatic and existential crisis event).

[@shadith2380]

What could possibly go wrong!? :)

[@WyrmLimion]

"Claudien has been rather withdrawn as of late. He keeps mumbling to himself about his mother and wishing she was back. But his mother is just a few mins away in the main city...*

[@crowdemon_archives]

Someone's going to get whacked by the WoL. *Again.*

[@harthalys]

The Heart of Sabik is it a hogyoku ? 👀

[@catrinastars]

Big Fat Tacos 😉😬🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WyrmLimion]

Took me an hour of listening to the song on a loop while singing the right lyrics to stop hearing big fat tacos lol

[@horaciohernandez2850]

Big, Fat Tacos.

[@WyrmLimion]

My friends still sing it in discord whenever we are in a related fight lol

[@nerocaos9257]

Are these like the stone of ff tácticts?

[@WyrmLimion]

Alot of people are starting to draw conclusions between this story and Tactics so it just may well be!

[@Lyu-Phy]

Athena best waifu

[@WyrmLimion]

Id be a bit to scared to wake up on a workbench with my soul plucked from my body if I'm being honest :)

[@TheElviz86]

Maybe needs a spoiler warning. I remember when i was playing through ARR i wanted to know what that was :p