The History of the BMW M3's Engine

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Күн бұрын

Part of making an amazing car for decades and throughout multiple iterations is using a great engine. Afterall, the engine is the heart and soul of the car. It's what propels it forwards. Let's take a look at every BMW M3 engine ever, starting with the E30 and going all the way up to the current G80 M3.
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - S14 E30
3:56 - S50 E36
6:21 - S54 E46
9:08 - S65 E9x
11:35 - S55 F80
14:17 - S58 G80
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@Dustrunnersauto
@Dustrunnersauto 2 жыл бұрын
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@69BigLou
@69BigLou 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh you read my mind with this content! Best of the best🤤
@adrianolowery3058
@adrianolowery3058 2 жыл бұрын
M5 next the m3 an m5 go hand in hand for generations
@kevinsosa866
@kevinsosa866 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, can you do a video for the BMW M5 as well? would love to see the history on it and know more about its current S63 V8 and its previous engines like the V10
@lamakicker69
@lamakicker69 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota didn’t develop the B58…it was basically all BMW.
@jdmmaster345
@jdmmaster345 Жыл бұрын
The B58 was around before the bmw /Toyota partnership
@ianmason2003
@ianmason2003 2 жыл бұрын
Having owned a S54, tuned N54 and a tuned S55, I’d take the S65. The B58 existed before the Supra and I’d bet Toyota had much less input in the engine then stated here.
@tvrtkokaic1376
@tvrtkokaic1376 2 жыл бұрын
b58 started life as b57 block from diesel.
@fry.master
@fry.master 2 жыл бұрын
I am almost 99% sure that toyota's only design input was a small change on the timing chain design. Good thing they did, too, as the b48 is the same engine with 2 cylinders cut off, and uses the timing system from bmw instead. b48's got issues out the ass with the bmw timing chain assembly, which the b58 does not. Some argue this is due to the balance, or some other factor, but I believe toyota knows some mythical secrets about timing chain setup....
@logicsfinest3471
@logicsfinest3471 2 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of calling that car the BMW Supra 😂
@SDG-cv4br
@SDG-cv4br Жыл бұрын
I love my s65. The sound is like nothing else.
@johnfurey3593
@johnfurey3593 Жыл бұрын
Toyota had no hand in the design of the engine. They came to my plant in hams hall. To see how the b48 and b58 engines are built and to see if it meets all new iso standards as not many engines from other companies are. Its from simple things like work flow and right first time when machining parts. To success in right first time completed engines. It just means bmw have high quality. They would also look at reliability data from the test cells of the plant where we hammer and stress the engine to the maximum to see just how much it can take. Sometimes engine are ran for days on end with changing rpm values.
@twilightravens9798
@twilightravens9798 2 жыл бұрын
The P60B40 is my favorite M3 engine, that 4.0L V8 out of the M3 GTR with straight cut gears sounds amazing.
@danielzychniewicz2633
@danielzychniewicz2633 2 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing motor and car
@joshdominguez341
@joshdominguez341 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@aaronmcconkey1062
@aaronmcconkey1062 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure its just s85 with 2 less cylinder.
@joshuabellezady6675
@joshuabellezady6675 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronmcconkey1062 That would be the S65B40. P60B40 is just the race car engine for the BMW M3 GTR and the BMW M3 GTR road car.
@oni5909
@oni5909 4 ай бұрын
@@aaronmcconkey1062it’s the s62s variant
@prophecybad3012
@prophecybad3012 2 жыл бұрын
S65 hands down I test drive one and it’s a car that will leave a smile on my face it’s a perfect amount of power to have fun. If you ever get a chance to drive one once take it. You won’t regret it
@Jakejacobsonn
@Jakejacobsonn 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if I drove the wrong one.. I bought a f30 328 not knowing anything by about cars saw a sports mode got into cars did some research learned of a m3 test drove the the v8 NA and was absolutely disappointed on paper 414 hp 298 torque I thought it was gonna be moving absolutely not sounds fun looks good but not the car to go fast also it died during the test drive on me lol but nonetheless if done right seems like it could be a fun car
@lozzaolivier3001
@lozzaolivier3001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jakejacobsonn 298 torque, you just said it. Rev it out next time, it’s not like a turbo car with high torque at low rpm. This is a Motorsport engine designed for precise throttle response and linear power & torque all the way to redline, unlike a small turbo engine which provide a strong initial shove then torque tapers off.
@lemontreeg
@lemontreeg 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 08 S65 … beautiful!
@ScottGroome
@ScottGroome 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, test drove M2's and M4 comps when looking for a new car, they're way faster, but significantly less exciting than the S65 in the e92
@Jakejacobsonn
@Jakejacobsonn 2 жыл бұрын
@@lozzaolivier3001 I got told that after I drove it lol wish I got to truly drive it more now after learning more about them!
@M3jet
@M3jet 2 жыл бұрын
S54 hands down. NA high revs and throttle response for the win! Great video.
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 2 жыл бұрын
Try living with one; they're incredible until you get to rod bearing, cam follower and Vanos failures 😪
@M3jet
@M3jet 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that. I had an 04 for 5 years. Zero issues but I admit, long term ownership would be challenging.
@joem4686
@joem4686 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned 3 generation’s of M3’s, a e36, an e46, and an e90. I would say all three had things that could and would go wrong. That being said, the e36 was the most reliable but also didn’t really feel “special” in any way, shape or form. The e46 was the most expensive to own, I had to do the subframe, Vanos, and rod bearings to mention the routine valve adjustment every 12-15k. The e90 was amazing as well, I did throttle body actuators and rod bearings but both were as preventative maintenance things. All in all, I would say the e46 was and still is my favorite! Perfectly balanced with just the right amount of power to match the handling and breaking. It was just so damn unreliable!
@N2alive
@N2alive 2 жыл бұрын
The Honda Civic of V8s
@soplim8632
@soplim8632 2 жыл бұрын
Same because that’s what I daily
@gbreadstudios
@gbreadstudios 2 жыл бұрын
I love my e92 with the s65. I don't understand how anyone could dislike that car or engine
@DimoS...
@DimoS... Жыл бұрын
Mate it's my dream car! Amazing v8! Here cost around 35-45.000€ unfortunately I can't buy it because its costs and taxes are too much for my income. maybe one day I can! Now I have a toyota corolla Tsport with 2zzge 200hp 1.800cc.😁
@AverageBeausOutdoor
@AverageBeausOutdoor 3 ай бұрын
​@@DimoS...Keep grinding, Sir. I've been where you're at but now I own an E92. If I can buy my attainable dream car, you can as well. It just takes time. Keep getting up in the morning and it will happen. I hope you have a great day, Friend.
@DimoS...
@DimoS... 3 ай бұрын
@@AverageBeausOutdoor you are right my friend, thank you very much I really appreciate it, be well and enjoy your beast💪
@codylujan
@codylujan 2 жыл бұрын
I've currently got an F82 with the S55. One thing I love about it is how refined and sporty it is. Its like no other car i've drove. It absolutely makes you in charge. Its so customizable and versatile, not to mention, pretty easy to work on (for an M motor). This is not me saying its the best M-Motor to ever exist but it is actually incredibly reliable and never gives up. Its got a ton of cardio. It begs to be floored.
@domenicmichaeli7028
@domenicmichaeli7028 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have an E46 M3 and a E92 M3. As much as i love the simplicity of the S54, I love the raw power and sound of the S65.
@SDG-cv4br
@SDG-cv4br Жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 M3 I agree. Previous and future generations are probably more desirable by enthusiasts but that sound and power delivery unmistakable. I’m just a random dude so I will never sale mine.
@theoriginalhoodust
@theoriginalhoodust Жыл бұрын
@@SDG-cv4br Team 2011 M3 ftw! It's still just the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels and I can't see ever parting with it. Mine's 109k (finally broken in!) and just had it into the dealer because the oil's gotten too expensive to make it worth doing myself anymore. Every head absolutely turns when it rumbles up doing nothing but idling (although she constantly begs you to redline her). Nothing against the other M's, but S65 is my perfect fit.
@DimoS...
@DimoS... Жыл бұрын
which is more reliable guys? The e46 m3 or e92 m3 ???
@AverageBeausOutdoor
@AverageBeausOutdoor 3 ай бұрын
E92's, Assemble!!! We must make the world sound great!
@DerKaktusAvant
@DerKaktusAvant 4 ай бұрын
My favourite M car is definitely the E46. That why I own one! I’ve driven all but the E30 (way out of my price range anyway). The E46 is the perfect car, old school but still modern, 50-50 weight balance, light, the perfect amount of power, instant throttle response, very linear powerband and a very unique sound. But I have to admit, I almost bought the 92, purely for that GLORIOUS sound. But the 10 year old kid with the photo of the E46 CSL on the wall came through. 21 years old, own my dream car. I am blessed.
@AverageBeausOutdoor
@AverageBeausOutdoor 3 ай бұрын
E92 is my attainable dream car and I'm fortunate enough to own one. E46 is a wonderful choice and if it weren't for the V8, E46 it would have been. Congratulations on owning your dream car. I know that it's a wonderful feeling. Enjoy your day Friend. I hope it's a great one.
@DerKaktusAvant
@DerKaktusAvant 3 ай бұрын
@@AverageBeausOutdoor they are both amazing cars and you can’t go wrong with either. All down to what you prefer! It’s an incredible feeling isn’t it! I hope you enjoy your E92 the same way I enjoy mine!
@nevrcm3261
@nevrcm3261 Жыл бұрын
great review of M3 motors...E46 M3 owner here and the 8,000 RPM S54 is still awesome
@adamwallace0929
@adamwallace0929 2 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia factor is massive here. Clearly the best engine is the S58 if it continues to impress with its power output and reliability.
@parkerbethke
@parkerbethke 2 жыл бұрын
0:00 intro 0:45 s14 e30 3:56 s50 e36 6:21 s54 e46 9:08 s65 e9x 11:35 s55 f80 14:17 s58 g80 (paste these times in the description so video chapters get created)
@Dustrunnersauto
@Dustrunnersauto 2 жыл бұрын
Done. Thank you!
@lililiil244
@lililiil244 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dustrunnersauto Please, make a video on the M5's engines
@terrancecollins2696
@terrancecollins2696 2 жыл бұрын
S58 are already exceeding 700WHP with mods pretty consistently lol they’re hitting the 600-650 mark with really just tune and fuel
@kpx722
@kpx722 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible. Would love to see one on the M5
@kentbeitel9966
@kentbeitel9966 Жыл бұрын
A e92 competition would be a dream
@polloloci21
@polloloci21 4 ай бұрын
That V8 M3 will definitely be a collectors item
@stoss-11
@stoss-11 2 жыл бұрын
Had an M54, N54, just sold my N55 and now in an S55 💪🏼😈 Best engines ever man, nothin like bmw Torque
@ImAFanboy
@ImAFanboy 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!!! I really love the topics you've been covering lately!
@stoss-11
@stoss-11 2 жыл бұрын
such a good video, so glad you made this, you make some of the best BMW videos, all factual & detailed information unlike most KZbin’s that try and do these videos
@bg-se7rq
@bg-se7rq 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro. Been waiting for something like this for years. S65 🥰
@stoss-11
@stoss-11 Жыл бұрын
We need a dedicated S54 video bradda
@PatFussy069
@PatFussy069 2 жыл бұрын
S55, S65 for me. I love the look for both of those generations. I quite like the S58 also, there is so much potential with tuning, it's getting crazy, & the grill on the car itself is pretty good looking seeing it first hand.
@patricklorio7657
@patricklorio7657 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 m3 with a competition package that is in mint condition and I think it's the most amazing car ever. This is my 4th BMW and, by far, the best!
@eminem2996
@eminem2996 Жыл бұрын
Are you rich
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
I am a BMW geek! This was a great video! Thank you I have the X3M I am liking the S58. Stock performance is insane I am imagine 700 hp.
@element1hec
@element1hec Жыл бұрын
S65 is the best imo. E9x generation has the perfect mix of just enough technology to feel modern, but raw enough to still have some DNA from its predecessors.
@megaprimegamer1184
@megaprimegamer1184 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! I just bought an 08. There’s just no way I’m driving around in an old car like the e46. It’s interior is just too archaic and so is the exterior. My 08 e92 with the ceramic white and black cf roof shits all over 99% of the cars on the road including the newer 3 series as well. The black interior on e92 is ass actually but when you make it fox red, the b/r contrast just takes it to another level. Truly a marvel. Every e9x owner should get a contrasting paint or else the old leather really shows. Everyone I know is flabbergasted when I tell them it’s an 08. Phew what a beast.
@AverageBeausOutdoor
@AverageBeausOutdoor 3 ай бұрын
Well said! The exact thing I've been saying for years. 2006ish - 2013ish were the absolute best years for drivers cars. I'm still rocking the Mk5 GTI as my daily and an E92 ///M3 for special occasions LoL. Both 2008 by coincidence. Have a great day, Friends.
@clunkclickeverytrip
@clunkclickeverytrip 3 ай бұрын
The first iteration of a inline 6 turbo petrol engine was found in the (e23) 7 series model from 1977-1986. The engine was based on the m30 inline 6 engine from 1968-1995 it had a cast bottem end ,aluminum cylinder head ,forged crankshaft and rocker operrated single overhead camshaft 2 valves per cylinder. Re-named m103-m106 it produced 258hp in both variants the m106 had an incresed capacity to 3.4l but ran lower boost pressure 6psi instead of 9psi.
@mtech_nick
@mtech_nick 2 жыл бұрын
Great walkthrough except the US S50 and S52 are not detuned euro motors. They are tuned up versions of the M50 and M52 found in the 325i and 328i respectively.
@LegGanders
@LegGanders 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping he'd talk about the M52, since that's what's in the car I'm driving currently haha
@geoffclarke8934
@geoffclarke8934 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. There have been some fantastic turbocharged engines down the years but for noise and throttle response you can't beat a high revving naturally aspirated engine and BMW have produced some brilliant ones.
@randallboone9375
@randallboone9375 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you!!
@paulgarcia458
@paulgarcia458 2 жыл бұрын
In December I drove my 05 bmw 325i from Florida to California, 3500 miles, it's got about 180,000 miles now
@Engineerboy100
@Engineerboy100 2 жыл бұрын
Wow massive amount of information. Love it. Thank you.
@TheSkabz
@TheSkabz 2 жыл бұрын
The S65 that V8 sound is mind blowing
@mr2spyderchronicles287
@mr2spyderchronicles287 2 жыл бұрын
The american S50 wasn't just a slight detuned engine. It was a completely diferent one. The head its totally diferent. I was fortunate enough to own a e36 euro M3 3.0 and that engine is epic. 86x86 square setup it just keeps on giving.
@aquasoulutionm6950
@aquasoulutionm6950 Жыл бұрын
Yup.. not only no throttle body 6x it's was for selling them cheaper in 5-8k and then countny..
@135ieric5
@135ieric5 2 жыл бұрын
S65 aside from the regular maintenance like rod bearings it’s a solid v8. Sounds amazing with the right exhaust
@jjmcoupebmw6557
@jjmcoupebmw6557 2 жыл бұрын
Rod bearings is regular maintenance? nvm I see what you did there...
@AverageBeausOutdoor
@AverageBeausOutdoor 3 ай бұрын
Just have the rod bearings changed? What's the big deal? I mean, a car collection isn't cheap LoL! I've got a BMW shop close to me anyway. I hope you have a great day Friend. Enjoy whatever you drive.
@dan1906
@dan1906 2 жыл бұрын
Your content is worthy of more attention. 👍
@logicsfinest3471
@logicsfinest3471 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks 🍻
@legendaryfisherman1934
@legendaryfisherman1934 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video 💯
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes 2 жыл бұрын
Just got an S58 in my new G80! Haven’t taken delivery yet but I already know I’m going to love it.
@69BigLou
@69BigLou 2 жыл бұрын
Class is back in session😁
@Gaara_du-desert.
@Gaara_du-desert. Жыл бұрын
Very good, but the S54 does not have forged pistons , just “simple” high compression cast aluminum pistons .
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 2 жыл бұрын
The E30 S14 brings back so many memories of the UK racing scene in the 80s 👍
@user-gc8gp3jv6i
@user-gc8gp3jv6i 3 ай бұрын
The S65 E90 M3 Coupe. I got to test drive that car and that car and engine is what made me fall in love with BMW
@nightspeedclub
@nightspeedclub 2 жыл бұрын
What a good video, I will give it a like
@gregs8685
@gregs8685 2 жыл бұрын
S65 is the pinnacle of M engines before forced induction ruined everything. Honorable mention for the M88/S38.
@stuartwest3822
@stuartwest3822 2 жыл бұрын
Great tour
@jbrown7403
@jbrown7403 2 жыл бұрын
S55 for me! I have an F82 Comp and I absolutely love it.
@marlondeagle
@marlondeagle 2 жыл бұрын
Will you do one for the M5 as well? Great video!
@arbal691
@arbal691 2 жыл бұрын
For me S54 and S65. I will work my ass of to get both of them, I really hate to have choose between them.
@asaucylasagna
@asaucylasagna 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, love the videos, do you think you could make a video comparing some of the bmw v8’s??
@fit4duty724
@fit4duty724 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could have them all however I am perfectly content with my E46 s-54 that's enough power for me in my daily needs.
@adickie1782
@adickie1782 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4 s54 cars. Love them can’t get away from the lol. 2006 m3, 2002 m3 swapped sedan, 2003 m3 swapped wagon, 2002 m3 swapped wagon drift car
@ricky_ricardo
@ricky_ricardo 2 жыл бұрын
tell me your rich with out telling me your rich
@adickie1782
@adickie1782 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricky_ricardo i got it all a few years ago when everything wasnt insanely expensive haha
@mikehalimchanabdullah2204
@mikehalimchanabdullah2204 Жыл бұрын
For me inline six that's what I wanted . The S50B30 engine M3 is my favourite , lest issue and easy to maintain it . How ever big power engine M3 that over 300 horses doesn't impress me , what I want is enjoy the ride and easy to drive .
@mackfar27
@mackfar27 2 жыл бұрын
I gravitate to the S54 engine. The model year 2,000 was responsible for getting my attention and putting myself to notice BMW.
@johndavidwolf4239
@johndavidwolf4239 2 жыл бұрын
Having owned a few E-30's with M-10 engines, I will have to go with the first.
@craigvalentine1547
@craigvalentine1547 2 жыл бұрын
I've got an s50b30 in my E30. It's great fun. Not too much but great fun.
@adriandiez3728
@adriandiez3728 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 BMW M3 E 46 coupe , simply beast
@TandemDawgBMG
@TandemDawgBMG Жыл бұрын
S54 all day long, I've driven the B58 and S58, it makes such great power and is very smooth, but it lacks so much character, over-engineered in the wrong sense. The S65 would be my favorite if not for all of the complications of developing a bespoke engine derived from another fairly bespoke engine and the reliability issues it suffers even with good maintenance. I finally reached my goal and bought an E46 M3 with the S54 and it just puts a smile on my face to drive. There's a reason BMW sold over 85,000 of them!
@ibefast
@ibefast 2 жыл бұрын
s65 is everything the s54 is but insanely better lol, higher redline, more cylinders, more power, more throttle bodies, better sound no rasp. Both are great engines but when you have a choice the answer is clear.
@gregs8685
@gregs8685 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@mxnny_r5002
@mxnny_r5002 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I’d still rather take the S54, it has a wayy better intake sound. S65 is just meh
@ibefast
@ibefast 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxnny_r5002 s65 has more throttle bodies than a s54.... s65 both in my opinion and factually has a better intake sound!!! Again both engines have crazyyyyy characteristics which make them both so good!
@lucasf4rt523
@lucasf4rt523 2 жыл бұрын
The rasp is wath make the s54 sound so good.
@mxnny_r5002
@mxnny_r5002 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibefast it’s got nothing to do with how many throttle bodies, it just has a better sound. Regardless it’s not factual this shits all opinion based so it’s whatever you like
@damon123jones
@damon123jones 2 ай бұрын
rod bearings and injectors of the s55 resolved in the s58 so likely the new one is fantastic
@coachalexwagner
@coachalexwagner 7 ай бұрын
Having owned the S14, S50, S54 and S65, the 65 wins hands down. It's worthy of the Metzger GT3 flat 6. Amazing engine. Worth changing the rod bearings every 100.000Km !
@markwindle9379
@markwindle9379 2 жыл бұрын
My m3 e46 2003 convertible as done 180.000 miles. No money spent on the engine. Only replaced the alternator. Original chain, starter
@AlanDampog
@AlanDampog 2 жыл бұрын
s55, cause I own an f80... great video!
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 2 жыл бұрын
the craziest thing to me is that a BMW M5 is a bargain now compared to current Nissan GT-R R35 prices
@Parabloop3r
@Parabloop3r 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite M3 engine has to be the one in the E46 M3 CSL... 370Nm from 3246cc is downright impressive.
@BigGuy10Points
@BigGuy10Points 6 ай бұрын
Yes! God it’s so sexy. If you can get your hands on a real CSL you’ve found a lottery ticket
@kcspeed9980
@kcspeed9980 8 ай бұрын
I think the us spec s52b32/b30 gets a bad rap. Yes it don’t get the added power of the euro motors. But it also doesn’t get the added unreliability, or more specifically added maintenance. The us motors only have single vanos rather than dual, the rod bearings are not super tight so they don’t need to be replaced like most m engines, s54 still had the rod bearing replacement requirements. The s52 is just a simpler more reliable engine. Mine has 165,000 miles and is used exclusively at the track. It makes 240 whp and doesn’t skip a beat. Also e36 is a great bargain for a track car. Super reliable, easy handling, just a great front engine rear wheel drive car to put tons of track miles without a lot of maintenance.
@brucegaskill3284
@brucegaskill3284 2 жыл бұрын
s65 for me. Love the sound.
@lammie1381
@lammie1381 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the S54B32HP. Different intake cam shaft, exhaust cam, with increased bhp over standard S54. Fitted in the E46 CSL.
@simonhanlon7518
@simonhanlon7518 Жыл бұрын
S65 all day long, that engine is incredible.
@aaronfreeman3890
@aaronfreeman3890 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, very informative and easy to watch! I will say that a couple main difference about the n55 vs my engine is that the s55 has ITBs (independent throttle bodies), two sets of turbos instead of a scroll, and the aluminum bits that make the engine lighter over all. It also possesses a lighter carbon fiber driveshaft to the n55s regular one, and a lighter magnesium crankshaft over the n55s. Overall its a stripped down/built n55 with two sets of turbos which is why the s55 f87 m2s are much more sought after than the n55 equipped models. Looking forward to more vids
@e90m3lci
@e90m3lci 2 жыл бұрын
The S55 does not have ITBs. The last BMW M engine to have ITBs from the factory was the S65 and ITBs were a common trait shared across most naturally aspired BMW M engines of yore.
@aaronfreeman3890
@aaronfreeman3890 2 жыл бұрын
@@e90m3lci Curious, I was led to believe even the m4 had ITBs. I cant find any proof that the s55 only used valvetronics except for a wiki article and a youtube vid online which didnt even state that it doesnt have it....Do you have more solid proof? Technically speaking valvetronic takes care of the throttle body business on modern BMW engines, since air flow to each cylinder is controlled by the valve lift on each cylinder. But its not as good a system as ITBs and I would be bummed if that is actually true. But my original point was that the n55 has a far less sophisticated version of this system than the m4 has, in either case. While they share similar components the motors behave night and day different.
@paulmeduri4451
@paulmeduri4451 2 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft is the same in m2 n55
@jamesphares244
@jamesphares244 2 жыл бұрын
S55 engines only have one throttle body on the beginning of the intake manifold after the j pipe. I've taken a few apart
@aaronfreeman3890
@aaronfreeman3890 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulmeduri4451 In the m2 n55, not the regular one in the 335i/435i
@littleroller
@littleroller 5 ай бұрын
S65 with it being NA and high revving. It’s all about that experience that they will never create again!
@m3kid
@m3kid 7 ай бұрын
Can you make an n54 block bore it and and everything from the s54? Or just go after market for the rest?
@lboogie3171
@lboogie3171 2 жыл бұрын
Love my E46 S54.. I have two LSB and one is a tuned FD making 600 WHP on ethanol 🥱
@BigAl22
@BigAl22 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I have a 135i with an n55 too! Just upgraded my LPFP, next is the turbo 😎
@1989BMWPOWER
@1989BMWPOWER 2 жыл бұрын
The S54 is my favourite engine of them all. But about the B58 you mentioned,Toyota had nothing to do with it's developement. It's an 100% BMW engine. And of course continue your good work!
@borla4491
@borla4491 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota tested the parts out, the engine had to past their standards..... Toyota wasn't going to just let BMW put the B58 in their Supra like that.
@strahinjaboskovic305
@strahinjaboskovic305 2 жыл бұрын
@@borla4491 so dude is right...toyota had nothing to do with development
@ChesMejia
@ChesMejia 2 жыл бұрын
@@borla4491 Toyota had no hand in the development. They simply used the existing, lower power version that was already in use by bmw since 2015 in 40i cars.
@borla4491
@borla4491 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChesMejia The B58 in the Supra is NOT the same as the ones that are in BMWs. There are three different types of B58s, the one in the Supra is not the 1st generation B58.
@ChesMejia
@ChesMejia 2 жыл бұрын
@@borla4491 Its still a B58. And the one in the Supra is not unique. The 2020 Supra used a B58C/B58M1, same as in 840i BMWs introduced in 2018. 2021+ Supras use the identical B58D (TU), which were in 40i BMWs since 2019 & 2020 depending on model, and LCI. Don't get me wrong, Toyota can build great engines on their own (with the help of Yamaha) but the B58 is not one of them. Im a Toyota fan from the 90s. I had several Supras and Celicas, while Im now looking to add an SW20 MR2 to that list. Im definitely not hating on Toyota, their history, and their capability to still engineer and build excellent cars. (LFA against anybody. GR Yaris & Corolla) For me, the credit goes where its due. Toyota tuned the Supra their way, but the B58 credit goes to bmw, just like the GR86 Flat 4 is all Subaru. Maybe thats why Im more interested in the new Z.
@HollywoodChips
@HollywoodChips 2 жыл бұрын
S52B32 tbh. S50b32 would be nice too. No rasp , sounds fantastic and perfect power band. And the E36 M3 is my favorite chassis for M.
@drmikegaspwred1483
@drmikegaspwred1483 2 жыл бұрын
still the best m engine ever by long time and awards and how storng the bottom is and how well the head flows is s38b36 or s38b38
@mrt7152
@mrt7152 2 жыл бұрын
S14 because that was derived of the most legendary engine BMW ever made, and that is the most powerful engine ever made. The predecessor of the s14 a 1500cc version used in the formula one and made almost 1500hp with a big turbo that is :-) Perhaps you should make a video of the bmw m10 and all its versions. Because what bmw is today started with that engine. Cheers
@Rmac35
@Rmac35 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to drive the s65 so I could compare the feel to the s54. Currently, the s54 is my favorite but I'd say I'm a bit biased as that's what I own. I also wish to drive the euro e36 M3 to compare to the s54. I bet it's closer in performance (stock vs stock) than most e46 M3 owners would like to admit; weight difference being a key factor there.
@mikehalimchanabdullah2204
@mikehalimchanabdullah2204 2 жыл бұрын
The S50B30US and S52B32 by far is my favourite , easy to maintain and run with low octane compare to Euro spec.
@Euphorica
@Euphorica 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to maintain sure. But it requires premium fuel just like the s50b30/b32.
@jjmcoupebmw6557
@jjmcoupebmw6557 2 жыл бұрын
Love my S52B32...sounds way better than the S54.
@oliverowen8128
@oliverowen8128 7 ай бұрын
Having owned an e46 m3 and now owning a manual e90 m3 and F82 M4 comp all I can say is I’m an N/A guy. High revving matched with a raw sensation. The M4 is badass in its own right but I have no connection with it.
@keronsmith8459
@keronsmith8459 Жыл бұрын
Got to go with s54 because own one the revs are out off this world engine of the 3 year straight
@alecvieau7551
@alecvieau7551 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the TDI
@alaneichelberger3014
@alaneichelberger3014 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 04 m3. I sold it in 2017 and bought a 2011 335is. The N54 is the most satisfying sounding and feeling engine I've ever drove. I have full bolt-ons and a stage 2 tune on. Plenty of torque low down and doesn't die off until about 6800 rpms. Loved my e46 but it felt like you didn't have any power under 5k rpm. I'm wanting to buy either a 98 328is 5spd or an 04 330ci ZHP soon if any of you guys are selling lol.
@g2skinny
@g2skinny 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I have 2007 335i 6 speed manual you know twin turbo dark grey tinted glass needs a coil or two few little things like that I’ll sell it man
@X11CHASE
@X11CHASE Жыл бұрын
Get an LSD for true driving prowess
@X11CHASE
@X11CHASE Жыл бұрын
I really love the 335is, it’s actually fuckin sick, my friend had one and it’s a really amazing platform
@elitesennabubble
@elitesennabubble Жыл бұрын
S50B32 and S54B32 are the best engines because of how smooth they are
@indopleaser
@indopleaser 2 жыл бұрын
no mention of valvetronic? great variable valve lift system.
@tighematthew
@tighematthew 2 жыл бұрын
i still love my n54 i just did a fully forged build
@zhx7597
@zhx7597 7 ай бұрын
S58 if you want insane Power S55 if you want power on a budget S65 if you want sound and speed doesn’t really matter. I’ve owned all of the above and so far… S65 is the only one sitting in my garage ATM. Will buy another F82 soon though. M4 GTS are cool cars.
@rdollie1
@rdollie1 2 жыл бұрын
You have to wind it up to make it move but amongst the NA motors, it's S65 for me.
@Reaper_03-01
@Reaper_03-01 2 жыл бұрын
I was kinda disappointed the P60B40 didn't get a mention in this list, even if it was just a footnote.
@jdamore44
@jdamore44 2 жыл бұрын
Bias to the s54 as I drive an e46 m3 ;)
@Guspech750
@Guspech750 2 жыл бұрын
I feel asleep. LOLzzzz. I’ll have to watch it again.
@georgekinyera6719
@georgekinyera6719 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing sounds as good as that S65. NOTHING!
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill 2 жыл бұрын
Love the S65 but S85 is just a notch above.
@Dima_Kuz
@Dima_Kuz 2 жыл бұрын
S54B32HP (CSL variation). Because emotions.
@BplexOnline
@BplexOnline 2 ай бұрын
The s54 does NOT have forged pistons. just wanted to mention that part. The rod and crankshaft from the S54 are forged but not the piston
@setidepp4853
@setidepp4853 11 ай бұрын
Making my entry into the M world with an S52 Z3 M Coupe, not sure what to expect, but I used to have a Z4, 2.5, and it was a blast to ride; no crazy performance, etc., but a nice, well balanced engine, IMO.
@oliverowen8128
@oliverowen8128 7 ай бұрын
They’re mega. My old man had one from new. A raw car.
@alecheden5690
@alecheden5690 3 ай бұрын
Nice man I just got my hands on a 06 z4M ( s54) love it so much as of right now
@cimarronfree8451
@cimarronfree8451 6 ай бұрын
Now, mine is a M3 2022. Not the competition one. Manual. What is the difference of mine and the competition one? Thanks for the video.
@jjmcoupebmw6557
@jjmcoupebmw6557 2 жыл бұрын
S52 ftw!!! but then I am biased.Reliable and sounds great.Yes, I know it's not as fancy as the S54 but no spun bearings and best off all none of that metallic nastiness that is the sound of the S54. I've raced quite a few S54 powered M3s and other M coupe's and my mildly modded S52 is their equal up to about 120-140 kph. Anyhoo...Go S52!!!
@AGZFreddy1983
@AGZFreddy1983 5 ай бұрын
the b58 is a bmw engine which was used in the toyota supra. as the b58 was made in collaboration between bmw and toyota.
@realisrealite5554
@realisrealite5554 Жыл бұрын
I have an e46m3.Everything works total engine rebuild,new clutch,drive shaft,diff seals axel boots,diff bushings ect.I'll either trade it or go Ls3 swap.
@profuse007
@profuse007 Жыл бұрын
N55 open deck and s55 closed deck, right? If so, they only share like 20%
@rebirthafter40yearsold39
@rebirthafter40yearsold39 Жыл бұрын
I ll get a S65 E92 hands down, no brainer.
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