THE HONEST TRUTH - brutally honest Montreal marathon race report // sub

[@Winnietaco]

Never realized how little course support you get on St-Laurent. For sure a tough mental battle!

[@global-runner]

It’s probably why I ended up talking to myself. Ha ha!

[@Nyelands]

@@global-runner

[@Sharshock]

I've already commented in all the previous videos, but again: you're a huge inspiration. I loved watching all your preparation/training videos, and even tho this was not the sub 2:30 race you wanted, you should be proud that you gave it all. I'll be here to watch your sub 2:30 whenever it happens.

[@global-runner]

Thank you! I appreciate you watching and commenting but most of all your support. It’s really heartening. Thank you again!

[@versantrealty1097]

I know it's not the result you wanted, but I thoroughly appreciate the candor. It's refreshing! You do a great job of balancing optimism and disappointment. There's a lot for me to learn there, especially since I'm 4.5 weeks from my marathon where I was hoping for a solid PR but have been struggling with injury issues and am sensing the PR get further away rather than closer. Good stuff Mr. Global Runner! Look forward to seeing what's next for you.

[@global-runner]

Thank you! Appreciate the comment. It’s frustrating when the body gets in the way of the desire isn’t it? I think all we can do is get ourselves in the best shape and then leave it all out there on the day. If we do that, then the result (good or bad) will follow! Good luck in your race. I’m sending healing vibes your way! :)

[@versantrealty1097]

Much appreciated! ​@@global-runner

[@TheFODRunner]

Brilliant recap, really appreciate the details. I dropped in around half way through your training series and I have to say, your training looked controlled and smart throughout... so I think, and you probably already know, that the high HR was probably a hangover from the illness. You got it at such an unfortunate time and you did so well to battle back from it and run that 2.39! I'm sure you know, but dont overthink this too much... fitness is high from your training... rest, recover and take that fitness onto the next step and smash the next race!

[@global-runner]

Thank you for your comment! Love it. You’re right - I’ll try and take some learning from it but ultimately some days just aren’t meant to be. Onto the next one!! :)

[@pierremichaud2397]

Thank you for visiting. Always nice to see my city from a visitor's perspective. Not an easy marathon, but a special one in my heart.

[@global-runner]

Thank you for hosting! What a great city! Loved Mount Royal!

[@SaraSt-Pierre-gv7je]

So inspiring ! So humble ! thank you so much for sharing your amazing journey!

[@global-runner]

Thanks for such a lovely comment!!

[@AboveThresholdRunning]

You will get there. Really appreciate this video, so many people will relate to the frustration of things not going our way when running but it’s all part of the jigsaw puzzle!

[@global-runner]

It really is! Great comment. And it’s what keeps us coming back for more! :)

[@gabem.2249]

You didn't let any of us down either👍🏽 it has been great following your journey which inspires me everyday. On to the next attempt!🎉

[@global-runner]

Thank you! I appreciate that! A lot. Agreed - it’s going to be fun working out where that is…!

[@rheno03]

Huge respect!!! Nice when everything clicks, but the hardship reveals our true resilience, forcing us to confront our fears and doubts!

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! You definitely learn more about yourself in the tough times than the easy ones!

[@jsrunningfitness]

Last marathon I did was 2017. Training went great but I had a lingering illness which I ignored, in the first two miles my HR was above 160 despite taking a conservative pace. I decided it wasn’t telling me what I wanted so the monitor went into a bush and I stubbornly carried on with target pace. This fell apart spectacularly at mile 17, I finished the race vomiting and with serious chest issues lasting 6 months and included a hospital visit. You made a very wise adjustment that not many runners would have done and your training saved the day, you should be very proud of that. In my opinion a far better achievement than all going right on the day and you getting sub 2:30. Thanks for sharing the series, it has given me lots of tips for my Malaga block. Look forward to the next videos.

[@global-runner]

Yikes. I’m so sorry to hear that. That is a terrible experience you had there. Glad you’re ok. Yes I definitely made the right call. It takes a bit of experience to remember how easy you should feel in that first half of a marathon and I think I was helped by the fact that I have run 2 marathons this year so I had that memory fresh in my mind. I kept thinking it would come round and I think there were points I felt OK, even towards the end. But overall I think I ran as fast as I could on the day - and I could easily have run WAY slower. Even at about halfway I was still thinking I’d overcooked it and was expecting a survival shuffle towards the end. Weirdly someone told me I was in 6th with about 10k to go (I wasn’t - I was in 10th) but that gave me a mental boost and I focused on not losing any ground and staying in front of anyone who may be closing in from behind. That really helped I think. Good luck in Malaga! That sounds like an amazing one to do…

[@DrProfX]

Was so looking forward to watching your in-depth analysis!👍

[@global-runner]

I didn’t get too detailed but I think I said what I needed to. :) And now…onto what’s next! :)

[@raygee77]

“f@*! yeah”. There will be other days. An incredibly strong run despite the very high HR which suggests you had def not shaken the virus. Well done again and respect for being open and honest. Can’t wait to see what’s next 💪

[@global-runner]

Thank you! And thanks for being supportive! I’m also excited to see what’s next!!

[@joshhoward5142]

Sorry you didn’t meet your goal. I have followed the journey and it almost makes this more relatable even though you are a great runner. I ran a marathon on Saturday and was shooting for ~2:45 and finished in 2:52. Pulling off the perfect marathon is so hard!

[@global-runner]

Thank you. Those are very kind words and I appreciate them a lot! Great job on your 2:52. I know it’s not what you wanted but you’re 100% right. Pulling off the perfect marathon is hard. So many things can go “wrong”. I guess it’s what makes them so addictive!! :)

[@DrProfX]

Yes! And there’s always a hook… like, if only I ran that segment a bit faster, or when you find out that your BQ was 1 minute short of reaching a cutoff… there never is a moment where you can say let me just sit and enjoy this “win”… there’s always room for improvement…

[@global-runner]

Exactly. And even if you hit your target, all of a sudden the next target seems manageable. :)

[@50Something]

I recently had the virus that's going around the city and it really increased my heartrate during runs. It's amazing that you were able to finish so strong with your heartrate way up there! Congrats on finishing first and amazing that you run twice as fast as I do 😂

[@global-runner]

Thanks for sharing that! (But sorry you got sick!). Next time I need the virus that increases my lactate threshold pace. :)

[@David-cg7ms]

Congrats, such an inspiration, you finished the marathon while being sick ! we all know that you are in sub 2h30 shape. Thank you for all the.effort you put into doing those nice videos, for sure it will inspire tauzen of runners to do healty things, you can also be proud of this. Time to relax, cheers.

[@global-runner]

Thank you for that comment! I really appreciate it. Time to relax! (For a little while at least…). :)

[@mikehobbs624]

Great time Dunc. You held it together when you weren't feeling at your best. It sounds like you had a virus, and had hoped it had cleared, but even in the warm up you knew it was still there. You will have better days, and its the marathon builds that we love too isn't it, we love the process!

[@global-runner]

We love the process! I think back to the accomplishments of some of those runs with my running buddies and it was such a lovely build in great weather.

[@mainersusa]

Love the attitude and reaction! Congrats on a fantastic marathon cycle and a seriously impressive result considering how your body felt! We all believe you can do it on a better day too! Go Dunk!

[@global-runner]

Thanks mate!!!

[@sebastianklein5325]

I’ve enjoyed the whole series so far. It seems like you made the right decision in pacing the marathon. I believe finishing under 2:40 is a major achievement in many respects. Keep moving and keep updating us. Style-wise, I must say I like the calm and collected reflections. Comment: Many years ago, I used to hate myself for falling short of pace in a race ("Why can’t I go faster?"). Now, I try to relax, give everything I can, and enjoy the race, while loving myself for continuing. I think every runner would agree: every race has its own challenges. As for those challenges, I believe you mastered them superbly.

[@global-runner]

I love this comment! Thank you so much! I will definitely keep moving and I’m excited to share what the plan is for what’s next! :). Thanks for watching. I appreciate it!

[@changez77654]

Love your optimism - you are a real inspiration for so many of us its clear, in fact when it does come it will be even sweeter! On to the next one!

[@global-runner]

Thank you for this comment - really appreciate the positivity and support! You’re right - it was always a stretch goal and if it came too easily then where’s the satisfaction? :)

[@tysonvideo5]

Proud of your preparation and your effort in the race!!!

[@global-runner]

Thanks mate! Couldn’t have done it without you!

[@dancollins3467]

I’m coming for you punk!!! I am 55, soon to be 56 yo, but have set my sights on my own lofty running goals. 😂 But, unlike you I keep them a secret because I am too chicken, afraid of the responses I would get. You’re an inspiration! Win, lose, or draw you’ve already succeeded. Thank you. P.S. coming back from injury makes me fully appreciate good health and the ability to run marathons.

[@global-runner]

Ha ha! Love this! Bring it!! :) I have to say - the responses I have received have been AWESOME. Runners are just nice people. That’s it. There’s no other explanation. I was told the internet is full of trolls. Not true. Anyone watching this channel is nothing other than 100% supportive and I’ve been so heartened to see it. Good luck with your goals! Hope you get them!! :)

[@global-runner]

And you’re right about injury - I run with gratitude every day.

[@Q.OnTheRun]

Great video. Very honest and relatable. No doubt you will come back and get that target soon. Keep going, love the content.

[@global-runner]

Thank you so much for the encouragement. Really appreciate it.

[@LeeCook01]

You should be proud mate. Class effort!

[@global-runner]

Thank you! Appreciate it.

[@JPiazza791]

You definitely didn't let any of us down! And it will be even sweeter when you do finally hit your goal.

[@global-runner]

Thank you! The support has been amazing and very welcome! Thank you.

[@paulwilliams2814]

Great vid to wrap up this part of the experience; I'm here for the second season! Thanks for the frank assessment. I admire how you've gone about this and how pragmatic you are about what you've achieved as well as what's next. There's lessons here for all runners... to be clear, my mara time is just under twice yours!

[@global-runner]

Thanks so much for your comment! I’ll need some help on what I should do next so I’ll be interested in your thoughts! Your marathon time means that you spend a lot more time training which is impressive. I’d argue it’s way easier to rip off a long run when you’re running for less than 3 hours so kudos to you!! :)

[@peterc09]

Amazing video. Was trying to catch and see you somewhere but unfortunately the're was too many people. You are a huge inspiration, keep up the good work.

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! Sorry I didn’t see you - maybe at the next one!

[@heliospantazis216]

Love to see videos like this. Im too scared and nervous to join official races, I did my own half marathon the next day, 1:41:23 😭✊🙏 . You are so brave to race, and are so courageous. Maybe in april I'll run the next one... Very inspiring. Sending love from a shy Montréaler

[@global-runner]

Thanks for this comment! That’s ok. Racing isn’t for everyone. I’m lucky because I raced at school so racing was just something you did. But it isn’t for everyone. If you want to try though, you totally should. It’s just a bunch of people getting together to run. Very few people are actually racing. I think you’d have a blast. But if you don’t, that’s ok too. Running isn’t all about racing!

[@BennyD-y3i]

Great work. Can’t wait to see what you do in your next build. Stay positive & results will come (not always linear). I would recommend getting a heart rate monitor (Coros arm strap is really good), this way you are confident your heart rate is accurate 🤓

[@global-runner]

I was actually thinking about getting one of those. Is the coros arm strap good with the Garmin forerunner 965?

[@robertcioata4034]

@@global-runner Yep, it just works with any device that has bluetooth.

[@BennyD-y3i]

@@global-runner yeah and is super comfortable. The chest strap feels a bit constrained. It’s really good having accurate data

[@chriswhite-gloria8318]

Feels like Im in a virtual cockpit with all these high tech graphics - looks awesome! maybe adding an elapsed time would be cool and i totally know that feeling of impending doom after wu strides feel gross. fun to follow along the last several months! keep at it :)

[@global-runner]

That’s the one graphic they don’t have! Elapsed time! It seems the most useful but they don’t have it! Crazy. Thank you! We’ve all been there I guess. And yet we still keep coming back. :)

[@mylesgibbons2377]

I'm over 50 aswell and breaking 2.30 is d dream, have been close and have had a few that turned into total disasters ,really enjoyed ur videos and ur honesty

[@global-runner]

Thank you! Good luck with your journey! Let’s hope we both get there!

[@teamhassan9686]

First of all, congrats on the time despite not hitting your A goal. As a fellow 50+ runner, trying to acheive a sub3, your journey is incredibly insprational. The honesty is extremely appreciated. There is no cheat code for the marathon, regardless of age or gender. Some of the sections on the course looked so barren. That can't have helped? I always feel like it helps me to relax when running through crowds. On to the next one! Well done again!

[@global-runner]

Thanks for the lovely comment and good luck in your journey! Gotta keep moving at our age! And you’re right that there’s no cheat code! Yes the crowds definitely give you a lift. I dont like running with music but had I known it was going to be that lonely (both in terms of crowds and other runners) I think I would have taken some music, just to keep the perceived effort low. Can’t blame that though - I was “off” well before it got lonely!! :)

[@rforward1974]

Really appreciate this series and enjoyed the journey. I’ve only done one marathon, but I knew at mile 2 it was going to be a tough day, and I was ok with that. 2:39 is a phenomenal time for anyone. Looking forward to what comes next…

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it. Yes me too! I might need some help deciding…

[@Greg-me8le]

Great race and great video. I was shocked at how you were all alone in those last minutes of your video footage. This is likely because of your speed putting you way ahead of the pack. But it also looked like there were large sections with absolutely zero spectators.

[@global-runner]

Thanks for the comment and the positivity! Yes there was a long section from about 25-35k with almost no spectators and no other runners. I have had that in other marathons (Eugene for example) but in those marathons I took music to keep the perceived effort low. This time I had to resort to talking to myself! Ha.

[@stun5866]

Fantastic run. Even more so considering you clearly had the effects of a cold remaining in your system. Enjoy your well earned ‘rest’ and good luck with your next running adventure

[@global-runner]

Thank you so much!!!

[@pvwoude]

Great video. Love your stats, and love the perspective.

[@global-runner]

Thanks for the comment! Appreciate it!

[@gregfisher7623]

Ack, that hill at Berri was horrible. I've biked up it as well and I can confirm it goes on forever. Ran the half on the same day and really enjoyed it. Thank you for this video!

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment! Yes I definitely should have looked at the elevation profile a bit more closely! Wasn’t expecting a hill that big! :) I hope your half went well!

[@bon277]

Really appreciate this video. It's good insight to know what you thought in the race. I hope you don't mind me borrowing your "Keep Operating" mantra for my upcoming race

[@global-runner]

Have it! It works!!! :)

[@runningmannn1975]

Great run! Sorry it wasn’t your day. I like the honesty! On to the next adventure!

[@global-runner]

Agreed!!! I’m already looking forward. :)

[@francisvaillancourt100]

Congrats on your effort and result, this is still very impressive! Suggestion… you should make a video about who you are and your background as a runner. How long have you been running, what your progression looked like, any advice for older and/or new runners, etc. 😊

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment. And that’s a great suggestion!

[@juncaarle]

Trained like I never had in my life for this race and was expecting a 3:45 finish(my PR is 3:52)... well,,, no.. Also had a VERY rough race. Started well.. my HR was up earlier than expected and ended up finishing almost 30 minutes later. My legs gave out around the 25k mark.... Honestly, I feel devastated and dissapointed but hey... Ill try again for my next ones in June and OCtober 2025. At the same time.... seeing that even pros like yourself sometimes have bad days.... makes me feel a little less worse :)

[@global-runner]

I’m sorry to hear this. I hate it when that happens but it sounds like you 100% did the right thing. Live to fight another day. You’ll get there. It’ll just take a little longer. (Which makes it all the sweeter when you get there!)

[@bettinapoulos7891]

Enjoy ur rest and recovery time GR!!!!!

[@global-runner]

Will do! :)

[@thebullfighter6733]

Really enjoyed this series. I’m from Montreal, born and raised. To be honest, Montreal is not only a fairly humid city in the summer, but the course as I’m sure you noticed isn’t very flat and has sneaky elevation. I think your fitness was there. Sucks because I feel like if you ran the Toronto marathon, the Toronto waterfront marathon or the Hamilton marathon at your fitness level, you would have shaved off significant time with the preferred course elevations. Youre 50, I’d wager youre probably one of the best runners for your age in the world at this point top 1%. Well done!

[@global-runner]

Thank you for these extremely kind words. I really appreciate them! Yes I was maybe a bit silly when it came to course selection. But it has given me even more determination to put it right! :)

[@rodneymarseille3950]

You are an inspiration for us old guys. I am doing my first marathon at age 46 and I am hoping to be under 4 hours. But it goes to show you can prepare your best but sometimes you body lets you down. Would be nice to know what you would do differently next time once you analyze your run.

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! I would have liked to have run more miles in the build up but my body didn’t allow that. So it’s difficult to point to that. I’d also like to work out why I keep getting sick in the taper.

[@rodneymarseille3950]

Well my first marathon went awesome till the 38km I was on track for 3:50 time then my body let me down and had to walk the rest...oh well so much to learn I finished it and I am proud.

[@global-runner]

@@rodneymarseille3950 You SHOULD be proud. YOU ARE NOW A MARATHONER!!! Congrats. It’s rare to get the first one right - but you learnt so much (especially about the last 4k!). Congrats again - that’s a massive achievement that few people experience.

[@rodneymarseille3950]

@@global-runner Thank you I appreciate it, next time I will join my local shoe store running club and run with others and hopefully learn from other people. I realized that there is a lot to learn. Keep making your videos I enjoy learning from them.

[@global-runner]

@@rodneymarseille3950 Thanks so much! I love this encouragement. Keep at it!

[@bodhisattwadasgupta5317]

Beautifully done video. I loved the stats on ur screen. How do you get those? And answer to Question 4- Hell Yeah ... !!!

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! I used the insta360 go3s camera and they have software in their app which pairs to Garmin and you get the stats automatically. It’s incredible really.

[@nigelstrydom3695]

I have a saying 'Live to run another day' U did what you could and u went in with a plan. Like u said at the end of the clip "To be continued". ❤🎉

[@global-runner]

I like that saying! I’m ready to run another day, that’s for sure. :)

[@mrwhiffle]

To have your heart rate bouncing off the limiter so early, and still only finish 9mins short of goal pace is pretty encouraging really! It’s funny that given all the dedication, and prep it can still come down to something it feels we have no control over!

[@global-runner]

Yes I was very happy with how I closed it out. It could have been way worse! Thanks for your comment!

[@StephanCremer]

Still awesome! Congratulations!

[@global-runner]

Thank you!!!

[@fatihbirkan8527]

You obviously haven't fully recovered from your illness or anything, your heartbeat is very fast. Solid pain cave. Despite this you did great. Congrats!

[@global-runner]

That’s right! I found the entrance to the pain cave way too early!! :)

[@nigelstrydom3695]

U have inspired me to go out and give my best. 💐💐

[@global-runner]

I love that! It’s all we can ever hope for! Good luck!!

[@flyinggeng]

When you said you got sick, I got worried about this potential outcome.

[@global-runner]

Yes it could have been WAY worse…. :)

[@craig.a.murphy]

Thank you for sharing your experience!

[@craig.a.murphy]

May I ask how you’re listed in Strava? Did a quick search but could not find you. No worries if you keep it private! Just my curiosity… and I enjoy seeing others’ activities. Very impressed with your performance: both physical and mental! Thank you, again, for sharing your experiences!!!!

[@global-runner]

I’m Global Runner in Strava. Let me know if you cant find me…

[@craig.a.murphy]

@@global-runner (I believe I found you). Here’s a thought for an upcoming video - because food is on my mind - you mentioned in the marathon recap that it was “now time to eat!”… what/how much do you consume? (I tend to ascribe to the theory that there are no “bad foods” (within reason), just “bad quantities”… may be that is my confirmation bias coming out! peace!

[@global-runner]

Great idea!

[@douglassackman5544]

"Prefontaine" station is a double entendre in this context. (I had a throwback "stop pre" shirt for my recent marathon, which btw didn't bring me any good luck , go figure). Congrats, and good luck for the next one!

[@global-runner]

That’s right! I knew some people would get a kick out of that! That’s cool gear. I like that. Sorry the marathon didn’t go to plan but there’s always the next one!

[@kophotography895]

Well done for getting it done

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! Appreciate it. That’s definitely the positive from this.

[@jrochez]

I love this channel

[@global-runner]

Thank you!!!! I really appreciate that.

[@valeriemalenfant]

''la côte Berri-UQAM'' is renowned to be steep, people in Bixi (share bike system) often walk up the hill because the bike only have 3 gears. Local people usually know it will be the biggest hill on their path. GREAT job!

[@global-runner]

Thank you! When I chose this marathon, I looked at the elevation profile and it seemed pretty flat but boy was I wrong!! I wasn’t expecting that one in particular. Thanks for your comment and for the local knowledge. Really appreciate it!

[@valeriemalenfant]

@@global-runner if you want a flat course its the ''marathon petit train du nord'' in October. just google it. that marathon sold out very quickly so subscribe to there news letter. its an 1h to 2h drive outside Montreal and it used to be a railroad track so its mostly straight and in a forest area most of the runners in this area get the PR time at that race.

[@JoeyO172]

the rocky 4 analogy / clip is a nice touch!!

[@global-runner]

Thank you! It really made me think of that moment!

[@DrProfX]

That’s a classic scene and a great way to illustrate that feelin’…

[@propriapersona6479]

Just want to share that from a half marathonian pov, your performance was quite impressive! And MTL is quite hilly, keep that in mind! Félicitations

[@global-runner]

Thank you! I appreciate it. (And it really was hilly! Did you run it?)

[@propriapersona6479]

@@global-runner Yes I did, also a bad race for me

[@global-runner]

That’s ok. We’re in good company. :)

[@JohnSmith-rx2uv]

Yes, we don't always get the results we aim for, but that was still an absolutely amazing effort! (*tips my hat) I mean, you just ran a 2:39 marathon lol. Most people (myself included) can only dream of doing that! Pat yourself on the back and enjoy the rest sir!

[@global-runner]

Love this comment! You’re right. It’s good to recognize the achievement even if it wasn’t as high of an achievement as I wanted. Appreciate your support and positivity! :)

[@jon735]

Think you were still affected by your recent virus? Hard to explain your heart rate being so high at the start! Amazing effort. Running that far, feeling the effort so early, shows your experience! Looking forward to hearing your next move. You’re so well trained at the moment it must be tempting to try another marathon soon where perhaps you’ll just feel it on the day?

[@global-runner]

I do think my experience got me through that one. I could easily have insisted on a pace that was too fast for me on the day and it would have been a lot worse… It is! It is tempting. I’ll need the help of you guys to help me decide what’s next…. :)

[@riskonic]

Thanks for the recap. What do you think was the physiological reason for the immediately high heart rate?

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment! I’m not sure. It’s possible I was still recovering from the cold I had in the taper week. But I guess it could be anything really. I wish I knew so I could fix it!

[@hibiru6868]

A 30bpm difference is quite drastic. It makes sense why you knew during your strides something was amiss. I’ve had runs like that where I felt fine but my heart rate was saying differently. It can be very confusing and frustrating. Especially when it’s at goal time. The benefit of being “older” when that happens is that undoubtedly it’s happened before so you’ve got experience to pull you through.

[@global-runner]

This is a very insightful comment. Thanks for sending that. You’re 100% right - it was a huge difference. One of my friends who I share my training with a lot immediately said “why’s your heart rate so high right from the start?” And I think you’re right - the benefit of being older was that I knew the hurt level I needed and ran to that. Back in the day I’d have stuck to pace and probably have run 3 hours +.

[@pblair12]

Admirable! What is next? Boston?

[@global-runner]

This is a great question. And will be the topic of my next video!!! :)

[@jamesdennison1536]

It's pretty obvious you weren't your usual self on Sunday. All things considered quite a performance. Hopefully it won't take you too long to recover from this and you get back on it! Well done again! Valencia? 😉

[@global-runner]

It’s sold out! But if I can get in…. :)

[@adamboender]

Way to put yourself out there with a huge goal! I had the exact same thing happen to me. High heart rate day of race, missed goal by 10 min. I regrouped, raced again 6 weeks later and shaved 13 min off my time. Hopefully you feel good enough to get back out there!! I am curious, any regrets in finishing? I know the goal is important to you and maybe a DNF would have let you run a race the next weekend.

[@global-runner]

That’s a great question. I never once thought about dropping out but you make a good point. I would arguably have been better to just do the half and then race a different marathon in a few weeks. No regrets though. I’m glad I pushed through. Id love to experiment like that though. Race a marathon and the second I fall behind the required pace, I drop out. Then I try again in 3 weeks and see if I get further. Eventually you’d get the race you needed, surely? :)

[@adaptablerubengaming4151]

2:39:is still phenomenal for your age and how the day felt, unfortunately sometimes its not your day and you have to try again in the future

[@global-runner]

Thank you!! And I’m planning the next adventure already…. :)

[@matthanna1980]

I've only ever raced twice, but both times my heart rate was sky high during the pre-race strides. I always put too much pressure on myself for the race, as I've got a time goal I want to achieve. I can only imagine the extra expectation when filming for KZbin and a few thousand people watching. Anyway, I think you did great, and if you NEED to prove to yourself that you can run sub 2.30 (which I think you can) why not just do it on the treadmill? Thanks for letting us follow along 👍

[@global-runner]

Thanks for the comment. I don’t think there was too much pressure but you may be right. I wouldn’t have it any other way though! :)

[@al3399higgs]

Great video and race. Question - was there adequate race markers? It appeared pretty at points with no one around? Just curious...

[@global-runner]

It was obvious where to go. But you’re right, it was very lonely from about 15k-35k. No spectators and no other runners in sight!

[@DrProfX]

“Prefontaine” subway stop is awesome! Oregon crowd would appreciate it!!

[@global-runner]

Ha ha! I thought it was going to be a good omen!! :)

[@DrProfX]

Totally! I’d think the same!

[@ouliogroove]

But… that’s not where the race started. Why didn’t he use the right stop? Still, great video and glad I ran behind you this whole time.

[@global-runner]

I just wanted to reference Steve Prefontaine which I thought would be a good omen! We didn’t start from there though - you’re right! :)

[@ouliogroove]

@@global-runnerawesome reason! Thanks for the reply

[@cryptocroc541]

I've read that with Marathon running every 100mtr elevation equals to 1km addition distance. From that 200mtr elevation in Montreal is 2km extra which is about 7 minutes. So from that perspective you came very close to 2:30 !!!

[@global-runner]

I love that maths! This is science and you can’t argue with science. :). Ha ha. Thanks for the comment. Appreciate it.

[@donalowens4117]

Well done for seeing that through. Fairly tough day by the sounds of it. I saw an earlier video recently where you put up your 2024 (?) best times at other distances. The HM was 1.14.xx I think and the 10k was 34.xx. Those are from memory, so may be a little out. I did think that sub 2:30 was super ambitious though, I mean you were basically looking to double the HM time. I haven't followed your training in much detail but I do wonder..... being brutally honest: Were you in sub 2:30 shape? Anyway, well done for keeping the show on the road and best of luck as you look to improve on that time. Are you planning to do an 'easier' marathon next time? Running all that distance on your own is no joke!

[@global-runner]

Yeah the race times were definitely not 2:30 shape. The training was there though and I did not seem to pull it together on the day of the races. I need to why out why and fix it. Definitely an easier marathon next time - both in terms of course and support (from spectators and other runners!)

[@astroyam2]

Pretty amazing you were able to maintain 170 hr when the plan was I’m guessing 150 or so!

[@global-runner]

Yes I wanted it to be no higher than 160 for the first half. I failed spectacularly on that front! :)

[@DrProfX]

I’m surprised to see such empty (and quiet) streets (e.g., 17 km point)…

[@global-runner]

A lot of it was like that. There were points that were insanely loud. But about 60% of it was silent and lonely!

[@DrProfX]

Some of it had almost meditative qualities… though maybe better for a relaxing run… hard to keep a fast pace in such tranquil environment 🤷‍♂️

[@global-runner]

Yes it was probably why I ended up talking to myself! Ha!

[@DrProfX]

😂👍

[@DrProfX]

What was your weekly miles the week before the race? On Sunday prior to the race, what was that week’s mileage?!

[@global-runner]

About 37 miles.

[@DrProfX]

I literally put 36-38 miles on my plan for that week!

[@global-runner]

I may have gone a bit light (which may have contributed to me getting sick) but it seems to be in the right zone.

[@musclelessfitness2045]

Easy explanation ... humidity was between 75 and 90%, so of course your heart rate was higher than usual. Montréal is known for not having the perfect race conditions lol Other factors might've been sleep, taper, nutrition, stress (outside running) etc Great time for your age, regardless 👍

[@global-runner]

Thanks for commenting! I didn’t feel like the humidity was a factor but I guess you don’t “feel” humidity in that way. And Calgary is so dry that I would have got used to way less humidity during my training. But you’re right - I cant be disappointed. It definitely was not a disaster.

[@garyrelihan7773]

Your heart rate was way up v your sessions so you are obviously carrying a virus. 2:39, top 10 is phenomenal. Fully fit again you'll ace it. I reckon look for another fast marathon I the next while and break that 2:30. Well done, looking forward to what's next. Can you talk about recovery, how long you take off running, then how long do you just go easy before getting back into normal sessions. You are going to do it, just a matter of it all going right on the day.

[@global-runner]

I will. Thanks. I like that suggestion a lot.

[@vetboyschmo6093]

Toronto Waterfront is only 3.5 weeks away...

[@global-runner]

My dad did that once. Ran New York and did 3:00.26 and so did another one 3 weeks later and ran 2:59.

[@vetboyschmo6093]

@@global-runner there you go. Sounds like a plan🤙. I'll be doing the half

[@global-runner]

Ha ha! I think I need a bit more. Maybe not much but definitely a bit! Good luck in the half though - I did that years ago and it’s a great event.

[@Gufenaugh]

Thanks for inspiration to keep me running @ 75+! Hope you get that record, but the journey is true reward. Congrats!

[@global-runner]

“The journey is the true reward”. Well said. Brilliant. Thank you.

[@thuggoe]

too often the travel and excitement before a race can affect performance , what can be done about it?

[@global-runner]

Great question. I guess run local races only (boring!) or maybe have much less of a taper? Maybe that’s the answer.

[@thuggoe]

@@global-runner I don't know but it seems people are always dealing with some kind of illness or the ultimate runner's scourge stomach problems

[@alanshrimpton6787]

Did you ever catch the girl in the yellow shorts that the roller blade cameraman had trouble keeping up with? I think your HR may have been elevated because you wern't feeling so well. Happened to me on my last marathon when I felt a bit sick 2 weeks out but not enough to stop training. Do you think you did too many hard training runs and left it in the all out there then? Over all as a 60 year old who can't quite break the 3hour my hat is certainly off to you. Great time regardless of age. Look forward to anymore attempts or videos. Thanks for the entertainment.

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment! I never caught her but I think she was doing the half. I’m pretty sure she won it. She was flying. I do wonder if I peak too early. I feel like I do sometimes. It’s tough to go with a shorter build but maybe that’s the answer?

[@global-runner]

And just over 3 hours aged 60? Hats off to you!!

[@toomuchpaving]

Accepting the result is the best way to move forward. Well done. If you were 10th then there must have been some major blow outs in front of you. I know a man who worked overtime for three months for a week’s blast in Vegas. He blew all his money on day one. I know another man who trained hard for three months for the London marathon. He blew his race in the first 500m. I stated 1/7 is greater than 1/84 and said to the Vegas man he was closer to his objective.

[@global-runner]

I love this! Thanks! A lot of those runners at the start were in the half marathon so they peeled off at about 14k. I only remember overtaking three people and I had one person come past me. So all in all, pretty consistent in terms of placing throughout the race.

[@toomuchpaving]

@@global-runner Apologies I thought they were all marathon runners. I still get frustrated with club mates who target a set time but go off super quick and don’t seem to learn.

[@global-runner]

I didn’t explain it very well! I think they set the “elites” off 3 minutes before everyone else as well. That was unnecessary in my view and it meant I couldn’t find a group for that first 14k. I was expecting there to be a group of half marathoners running the same pace as me but those runners were all set off 3 minutes behind I think.

[@Nyelands]

Do you think it's just a coincidence that the illness came right before the race? I'm wondering if going into taper from a long period of pushing the limits can have something to do with the body shutting down a bit.

[@global-runner]

This is a great question. I don’t. That’s 3 times in a row I’ve got sick in the taper. That can’t be coincidence. I think you’re right it probably has something to do with the body shutting down. I guess the answer is less of a taper maybe?

[@Nyelands]

@@global-runner When your body is under stress it produces stress hormones like adrenalin which helps the immune system to work more efficient. The stress hormones produces cells that eat bacteria before they get to be infections. When you taper you your stress leves drops and so does the stress hormones that fight virus. But you still have the virus in your body. This is why people that are stressed out at work often get sick in the beginning of a vacation or in weekends. So maybe a short taper or maybe even a longer taper so that you can recover from potential illness before the race.

[@global-runner]

This is exactly the advice I was looking for. Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. Really appreciate it.

[@Nyelands]

@@global-runner Don't take my word for it, I'm. just a googler 🙂. But maybe do some research in this direction of sport science. Another fix can may be a more gradual taper as opposed to a sudden reduction in mileage so that you will have less fluctuations in the stress hormones. Being super focused on nutrition and sleep during the taper is probably also a big factor in preventing it from happening.

[@global-runner]

Everything you say makes a lot of sense. And sometimes google is right!! :)

[@lucyemery2600]

I live in Montreal and I’m ashamed to see almost zero crowd support…..especially going up the Berri hill. You should consider Ottawa. Only 2h away and a real “running city” with crowd support the whole race!!! I’d rather drive there and run than stay in my own city. 😢

[@global-runner]

To be fair there were times when the support was really loud! It wasn’t all lonely. And I suspect a lot of people would have turned up later in the day.

[@darkhorse1144]

Duncan, just remember even though you missed the mark you set , it actually is still pretty close over 42 kms works out to around 12 -13 seconds a km , now thats pretty close man, you gave it a great shot plus you were right up there your high heart rate makes me think how was the humidity that day?

[@global-runner]

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words a lot. I do often think how 2 seconds too slow per km is nearly 90 seconds over the marathon. Fine margins!! I don’t think I can blame the humidity. I did get super hot but once I took my hat off (which was drenched in sweat now I think about it!) I was fine.

[@darkhorse1144]

The journey of the Marathon and the training that goes with it begins with a single step, your new journey is upon you

[@global-runner]

Love it. So true. :)

[@jacobmatthew5298]

I’m pretty sure that cold you had did you no favors… warm too!

[@global-runner]

Yes it’s difficult to know for certain. But you’re probably right. I need to work out why I always get sick in the taper!

[@Wakssbm]

uhhh do you have all these information in your sunglasses as you're running or something? I'm looking on knowing how fast I'm going without having to check on my watch every other second.

[@global-runner]

That would be amazing wouldn’t it?! Sign me up! No I don’t have anything like that. In fact, when I’m racing I try and ignore my watch as much as possible. Settle into a pace rather than look at what I should be running…

[@Wakssbm]

@@global-runner Ok! Interesting. So my question then is how do you have all this information shown?

[@global-runner]

Oh I see! Sorry I misunderstood. I record the video on the insta360 go 3s camera and then I sync it with my Garmin data after the run!

[@koks39.]

Great video, great series! Hope to see more and keep chasing your goals.. flat fast course maybe and maybe a goal in the middle? 2:35, 2:33?

[@global-runner]

I think you’re right. I think I need a baby step towards that goal!

[@maxm5967]

Sh..t happens, simply not your day. It's surprising that so few people on the streets (and this is second largest city in Canada!), crowd support can make a big difference especially when you trying to hit big goals. I'd choose more popular race for the next year attempt (New York, Boston?).

[@global-runner]

I’ve got plans - check out the next video! (And I also need some help deciding…!)

[@pieroreynolds8865]

Lots of exercise suppresses the immune system hence perhaps why you got an infection. So difficult to know when to rest and when to push through.

[@global-runner]

Yes I’m actually wondering if it’s the other way round? When I hit the taper my body “relaxes” and I then become susceptible? Not even sure if that makes sense medically?

[@pieroreynolds8865]

This phenomenon seems to be true and I suspect there is low level infection during training that the suppressed immune system can't quite clear then when you rest it starts fighting the infection more effectively which brings out symptoms.

[@global-runner]

I wonder what the fix is?

[@pieroreynolds8865]

@@global-runner Massive topic but for starters-Ensure Vitamin D levels good, plenty of anti-oxidants in diet (I am not aware of evidence for this but makes sense), mask on public transport, annual flu vaccine (probably Covid as well), be aware of signs of low grade infection-disproportionate fatigue, low grade sore throat, ??HRV going down and get in some rest early before training is badly impacted.

[@global-runner]

There’s some great advice here. Thanks!

[@mikes5764]

Wow, I had not expected those empty streets! Maybe the high HR was a sign you were overtrained a bit, not fully recovered from the harder trainingsessions? You definitely did your best to control high HR early in the race by not going out to fast and even reduced the pace. Execution was perfect Just not in the shape on that day.

[@global-runner]

Thanks for your comment. I dont feel like I was overtrained but I guess it’s possible - but you’re right. I did my best and that’s all I can ask.

[@rasher331]

Come now, you have to plan the next race and go for it again!!!

[@global-runner]

You’re right. I do. :). The real question though is this - which one? And when? Do I do one in December? Or wait till spring?

[@rasher331]

@@global-runner Well you know we'd love to see you running one again ASAP but its really up to you. I'd say the body might need a rest and a spring one would be best. But only you know! Could you get an entry to London marathon? Would you like to do that one?

[@global-runner]

Ok so I’m probably ruining my next video but the plan is London and New York next year. But the real question is whether I do one final one this year. London is still so far away…

[@rasher331]

@@global-runner You might need to play it by ear and see how you recover. But i do believe Valencia marathon December 1st is supposed to be a really nice one. Great to hear about London and New York.

[@global-runner]

A lot of people have said Valencia! But entries are closed…

[@OliverCobb-ti8bd]

The virus clearly scuppered this one. Great effort

[@global-runner]

Probably! Next time I’m wearing a hazmat suit the week before. Ha!

[@lowzyyy]

Thats very high heart rate for your age. Where is your threshold? In public races my hr goes 10+ beats higer in the start and i hit threshold in first 10k of my HM. Not a fun times running threshold that early Good job on finishing that hell. I know how it feels😂

[@global-runner]

Yes it was super high compared to what I’m used to seeing. I knew it was in trouble very early on! But you’re right - I’m glad I finished it and it definitely could have been way worse! I genuinely think the coke at 30k saved me!

[@BennyD-y3i]

@@global-runner you showed real mental toughness when it all went wrong. Keep showing up. I just ran a 2:55 for my second mara (aiming for 2:48) & had a similar experience but with calf tightness from 3k. An accurate heart rate monitor will be a game changer for you.

[@global-runner]

Good work! Sub 3 is a real goal so great work in getting it done despite the calf issues. 39k is a long way to suffer!!!

[@Robzabest25]

coke??!

[@global-runner]

Coca Cola…. :)

[@frangalarza]

I find it disrespectful to say that a 3:40ish pace should feel super easy and relax hahahah

[@global-runner]

Ha ha ha! Fair point!! Although my best friend ran 2:09 and he would do his long runs faster than that! :)

[@frangalarza]

Hahah I know hey, it’s all relative at the end of the day. It just made me laugh when you said it 😂

[@global-runner]

Ha ha. Sorry about that! :)

[@nikp.7823]

I agree - so much to learn for all the old farts past 50 - like me (58y). Question: what’s your max HR? That would be a super interesting metric…mine is 181 and 166 is threshold. So 155-160 at start would kill me at 25k the latest. Your 140 in Carmel would also be my exact sweet spot. I would say your body was fighting sth, like the slight cold you mentioned 2 days earlier upon arrival in Montral. No way you hit 160 so early otherwise... Thx for sharing all this amazing stuff - we will stick with you 'till the end. 2:30, hell yeah!!!!

[@global-runner]

According to my Garmin 183. But I just bought a coros strap to get more accurate data going forward.

[@MusicChristo]

Looking pretty lonesome being so fast😅. You ought to enlist for Frankfurt and have more speedy guys around you and suck up their energy in a new sub 2:30 attempt💪👏👌.

[@global-runner]

There are a few races I have in mind. I’ll enlist everyone’s help in deciding on what’s next, in my next video!