Nice work!

Love it!

A great week of training. I love the variety of your sessions 👍

'Fasted runs'? I don't do any other kind. Running without having eaten that day is unremarkable. I line up for anything up to a marathon without any calories since the night before. Didn't know there was a name for this. But very cool episode. Look forwar to more.

I always wake up pretty hungry, so I start with a hearty breakfast. I therefore never really considered fasted runs, although stimulating fat burning does sound very important, especially since I'm preparing for my first marathon in April (Rotterdam), so maybe I will try one (not today though - just had a big breakfast 🙂). About your training week, it seems to be going really well, but as others have pointed out, you seem to be pushing really hard. Do you incorporate de-load weeks every 4-5 weeks? (Maybe you mentioned that in a video a few weeks ago where you outlined the plan, but I can't recall the details of that one).

Thats a strong week yet again and you look pretty fresh. Question- you do not incorporate any rest days in between, is that something that may bother you down the road or are you used to it?

Super week of volume and intensity. Amazed how well you recover from that! Great job 👏

Hi im a new subscriber to your channel and really loving what you are putting out especially as im training for a sub 2 hr half this spring, im also 51 years old. But im struggling with something i hope you can advise me on. I run 26 miles a week and want to increase my threshold miles but fear if i go over the 80/20 % easy/hard principal i may get injured. But i dont know how else i can make a sub 2 hr half without increasing my threshold miles.

About 40 seconds. I have measured the distance but I’m guessing about 200m. I’ll check the footage and see if I can get an accurate measurement

How long is the hill?

Didn't think a sub 72 marathon was physically possible?

I run pretty much every long run on Sunday mornings without breakfast. I simple do not have time to wake up 3am, have a breakfast and leave to run at 6am. I usually run 20-25km and it takes 1:40-2:10, depending on the road conditions. All other days I have breakfast az 7am and go for a run at around 9-12am. I never had any problem with my sunday runs. For 28-35km runs I take 1-2 gels and for runs above 30km I always have a breakfast 1-2h befort the run. But for 2h-2.5h runs I do not bother.

I’ve joined a gym for the first time in my life, to get out of the cold and dark. Any tips for treadmill? It’s just killing me at any pace, I’ve halved my weekly volume from 80K to 40K (unintentionally) as I just cannot do any more. Slow 8k is my limit, it’s just mind boggling to me that you can smash out 4x5K at that pace on a treadmill.

Very good week and another insightful video! Would be curious to hear if you have any particular strategy or tricks to recover from these sessions (sleep, rest, supplements, etc.). Maybe for another video…!

That was a great week of training, it had all the efforts in it 👌🏻. I think you did fine by not doing the 4x5K faster than HM pace, since you did several other sessions at a faster pace. There's a risk that you are get so fit by now that you start overdoing things and suddenly your muscles and tendons are fatigued (peaked to early). There are still weeks ahead in which you can push. What I would do in one of the coming weeks is a 10K, to get more used to run non-stop fast for a longer period. Not all out, but around 5-10 sec slower than 10K race pace, and probably on race shoes to save the legs.

I think you're right in the heart of your prep and in the perfect "window" of effort, if you take my meaning. Good luck.

Really well put together video. And that was a serious training week - you hit some decent paces there. Keep up the great work 👍

Bought one, and lost it on a run BUT continued paying the membership because you cannot stop it. That was it for me, I am fine with the power I get from Garmin.

Have you done the initial critical power tests So it can now your hardest all out effort in the power curve fasma? If you don’t do the all out test. Is impossible to know your accurate Critical Power. Remember is a gadget of algorithms and science. If you put wrong data you will get wrong results.

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I originally bought mine when I signed up to pace a marathon that had a lot of tree cover and poor gps reception. The best use for me has been recording treadmill sessions and integrating with apps like Zwift. There are many less expensive foot pods but they are notoriously inaccurate. I’ve probably used the power reading once in the last 8 years when coach gave us mile repeats and we picked a road with a long grade. The headache is figuring out “what is 6:00/mi pace in watts?”.

For indoor running (indoor track or treadmill), I use the Garmin HRM-Pro Plus chest strap. It gives my watch (FR265) my pace and cadence and I find that the pace is pretty accurate +/- 2-3%. That chest strap also gives many more running metrics like heart rate and the running dynamic stuff. You just need to calibrate it and you're good to go. I've been using that one for the last 18 months with good results. You can also sync the chest strap directly to the Zwift app. When I run on Zwift, I use the treadmill mode of my Garmin (not virtual run mode).

The thing about running power is there is no industry standard, essentially it's based off pace and adjusted for changes in elevation and wind, whereas cycling power can be measured directly with a strain gauge. I've actually found my Stryd to be super consistent, especially indoors on a treadmill. If you using a Garmin you want to make sure that in the footpod sensor settings you have it set to pace indoor only so that the pace the Garmin uses comes from the Stryd footpod.. You also want to avoid changing your weight and this can affect the power readings. Your critical power does sound a bit low, though the key metric is not the critical power but the W/kg. I find for setting the critical power that something like a 10 mile race works well.

I thought people mostly used these for accurate treadmill measurements? So you can use your Garmin and follow a workout on the Tready.

I dont really care about power. But one thing i like is accurate distance when i run. I run in a lot of cities so i still get gps bounce and garmin once in a while has me running out on a river next to alot of tall buildings around ny nj. With the stryd inuse it for distance instead of gps and i get all the pretty garmin maps but very accurate distance.

I bought one around 2020. I followed every part of the calibration steps, put in many hours working with the product. The data was terrible, mismeasuring distance by over 10% outdoors and on a treadmill it was up to 20% I carefully presented my data on their FB group showing different shoes, which lane I ran in, relative errors found, and included all the steps I had taken to eliminate errors. It was not a rant, just a methodical take from someone with a stats background who likes to make things work, pretty handy at problem solving generally. My posts were deleted and the admin sent me a message accusing me of everything you’ve been seen on here. The message is consistently “our product is perfect, you are the issue” So I sent it back and got a refund. They were just rollling out the subscription model at the time which users were not happy with, glad I swerved that. I then had messages from other customers saying they had had same issues and found the Stryd admin doing same thing with them. I wasn’t even that interested in power numbers, for running I think they are a bit meh, I just wanted to have accurate pace/distance where GPS struggled.

I used for 3 years, I thought it was accurate in pace and distance , but , actually is not, most dual band gps watches are more accurate,

I have been using Stryd for 5 years and I like it but I don't love it. The live pace is better than GPS and distance is as good as all systems multi-band GPS. This means I can disable the all systems GPS on my watch (Fenix 7) and get triple the battery life from my watch. I find power is useful for running uphill or into the wind but not that useful the rest of the time. I have gone through phases of thinking I could live without it but when I left it in a hotel safe earlier this year I only went a week before buying another one. I don't think £200 is particularly expensive for the tech included in these.

I’ve tested pace and distance accuracy of the Stryd with a measuring wheel, and it’s accurate in those. I would say exactly to the step. That’s almost too accurate because nobody runs that exact. Now I use it mostly for indoor running sessions because the lack of GPS. The second use case is Zwift on a treadmill. But then the Stryd readings will change with the shoes unfortunately. It will give different readings of pace and distance when I change shoes on a treadmill for example. For 400m just 5-10m maybe but that accumulates. That is so annoying.

A few things worth mentioning: 1. Garmin power incorporates elastic recoil which Stryd does not. As such, Garmin power is about 30% higher than Stryd on average. Running power does not have an industry standard, unlike cycling power. As such, it's a fool's errand trying to compare running power across platforms. 2. Stryd has been tested in the lab to show strong correlation with VO₂ max testing. Garmin, Apple, and Polar power showed much weaker correlations. I can share at least 7-8 different academic peer-reviewed research papers on this very topic, if you're curious. 3. In order to get an accurate critical power, you need *max efforts* in several time domains, preferably 2-3 minutes, 9-12 minutes, and 20-40 minutes. Hard efforts are not enough. They need to be max to full exhaustion efforts. CP testing, time trials, or races will help. 4. As you discovered, Stryd is motion activated. If you wear it walking to the track, wear it for your track workout, then wear it walking back home, Stryd recorded everything locally. When you sync with the app, of course that data will be present. You can crop it out in the PowerCenter, or if you pair it with your watch and instead sync your watch's platform with Stryd, then you'll only get the track workout and not walking to/from home. EG, I pair Stryd to my Suunto watch. Suunto syncs with the mobile app. Stryd PowerCenter pulls the data from Suunto. No extraneous data. 5. Sorry it's been inconsistent with treadmills for you, but that hasn't been the case for me. It's incredibly reliable on the treadmill, even when visiting 3 different gym locations. I have an old Stryd version that I use when running on Zwift because it's more reliable than the Zwift foot pod. 6. Yeah. It's unfortunately very expensive and their sales don't really seem all that great to be honest. As a serious runner though, the expense is worth it. After all, how much do I spend on shoes, races, gear, food, etc.? I can justify this one. 7. I hate the shoe clips. Honestly hate them. There are 100 other ways to clip a pod onto your shoe and the way Stryd went with sucks. I've read horror reports of runners who lost their foot pod, because the clip on the narrow end broke and flew off the clip. In the Next Gen model, they enforced the wide end with metal, but not the narrow end that seems to be breaking. There is even an Etsy shop with a 3D printed 3rd party clip that addresses this problem. Hopefully, Stryd addresses this in future models. The proprietary charger sucks too, but then, so does the one for my watch and optical armband HRM.

Did you connect your Garmin Connect with Stryd software so that the workouts are actually uploaded from Garmin to Stryd? That should eliminate the issue of capturing pre and post training movement (Stryd will still record all breaks during the activity for correct assessment of power) and hopefully help you get better CP. I hope you can get it to work for you in the next 4 months as it is a single most impactful training tool for me and I have tried pretty much all there is :)

Ha! The Canada Post is about as useless as the USPS, it sounds. Sorry you had to put up with that! Sometimes, our private services are almost as bad here in the States, ironically.

I don’t think you e given it long enough, and done enough quality session. It’s been a few years since I used mine but I thought critical power was power for 1hr not 10k. I found the data very good and very reliable

If you make a review at least read the manual. Definitely a click bait title.

I've used Stryd for several years, both indoors and outdoors. I had the previous gen unit (Stryd Wind) and now the Stryd NG, and recently added another Stryd NG for the full Stryd DUO setup. It's a great piece of technology, but unfortunately Garmin has not (as of yet) allowed for proper integration with third party sensors like the Stryd, which is why you have to install their (not so great) Stryde Connect IQ data field "app". Garmin added native support for power a couple years ago, but unfortunately have not yet opened it up for third-party sensors to be a "first class citizen" power meter, unlike with HR where you can use any external sensor you want. That being said, once you're setup, the Stryde does provide much more accurate (instantaneous) pace measurement which you can choose to override the GPS based pace reading on your watch. I find this is the biggest benefit, especially when doing intervals. I also use the data to analyze intervals after the fact to compare efforts when doing outdoor intervals that are affected by wind and terrain. The stryde nicely takes out the external factors for comparison. Finally, I use the Stryd indoors on the treadmill as the source of truth for pace, since the treadmill belt speeds are always inaccurate. I have noticed with some Garmins, the Stryd NG will not switch to "indoor" mode and you'll get wildly fluctuating pace readings. I had this problem on my Garmin Forerunner 955. I now have the Fenix 8 and the treadmill pace is bang on. Hope that helps.

Had to admit I have given up on mine as well. That said sure you have learned by now that unlike bike power meters, there is no universal standard in running ones so can you only compare Stryd power with Stryd and Garmin with Garmin and no doubt likes of Coros is different too. That all said, I did Stryd rather relies on "max" efforts to determine where you are at because it has no real way of telling you how hard you are trying short of reference to historical efforts. That said I find using it for some years did enforce that a slower pace uphill than average goal pace is "OK" as you would be trying way too hard otherwise. As a 2:26 marathoner I doubt that is a surprise. Modern GPS watches with Multi Band GPS have made taking pace & distance from Stryd redundant IMHO. It is good on a treadmill (e.g. with Zwift) however compared to just a watch but even then you often find yourself not running as "fast" as you think. Another can of worms. I've seen likes of Clayton Young using it however but was never entirely clear what it is telling him especially given a team of top people around him.

For any predictions and CP to be accurate, you need proper all out efforts. They are available as workouts in the library. Your CP and any race predictor times are modeled based on that data. If you don't give the model good data, the estimates won't give you good data either. Give it a chance with proper all out efforts and check back later if the predictions are accurate or not. They will be. When you say Stryd doesn't know about your effort because it doesn't know your HR data. It does. If you have proper all out efforts. It looks at the power of your run in relation to your CP. Same for suggested workouts. It will give you challenging workouts based on your CP. If it's not accurate, the workouts will feel too hard/easy. So again, the tldr. Feed the models with good data. And about the treadmill discrepancies, were you using the exact same treadmill? That could have been the culprit.

I'm probably bucking the trend from some of the other users here, but I use mine mainly to pair to Zwift on the treadmill. At time of writing, you can use Zwift without subscription for running. The Stryd won't report back elevation or whatever while you're on a treadmill, so if you want a hilly workout, it's no good for that... but it's bang on the money out-of-the-box if you want to set up some workouts of your own, like 6 * 5 mins, or just do a tempo session, or progression, or whatever and use it for that. I also train on a cycle track and it's super accurate for pace and distance when I use it there, when GPS is losing its mind (using Coros Pace 2, which also pairs it out of the box without any clumsy workarounds). So yeah. My experience with it is positive.

So first, these marketing teams need to be more accurate . It’s a power “estimator”. It’s extremely complicated to get a runners power output based on accelerometers and gps. Hence, all the algorithms. Anyway, I don’t want to argue on the tech which most people commenting here clearly don’t understand or if it’s set it up accurately, but if they charged you a monthly fee for a service, and they did not provide some sort of extension, then that’s a humongous red flag.

Garmin HRM pro plus heart rate monitor is also providing power and running dynamics data like ground contact time, balance etc. Works flawless with garmin watches. You can have a look.

Wow, harsh! LOL. I like my Stryd and use it a lot. I agree however that their initial power assessment is not useful if you already have a training plan, and I can't be doing all the all out efforts required since I have scheduled workouts. But, I think the watts shown are the closest to correct you will find and ditto for pace and distance (I've done tests at a track and compared it to my Coros and Garmin GPS). I also find their app and PC app really great for the charts. One glitch I have is on a treadmill the readings will cycle up and down a bit at about a 5-15 second period, though I can't say that this is not the treadmill itself. But with the app you can get startlingly consistent results. Today I did 4x800s on a treadmill at 1%, and they were all 313-314 watts average, 5:52 pace average exactly on all 4. The treadmill setting was 5:49. Generally other devices like watches over estimate. You can see DC Rainmakers comparison of various devices here: www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/06/running-comparison-garmin.html

I'm a Stryd user from the first iteration on. I'm using one pod, no subscription. Power number vs Garmin: neither can measure power! It is an estimation in both cases! For me: Garmin showed approximately Stryd power + Stryd form power. There's quite a difference. The real benefit: use it for amazing precise and repeatable pace and distance! Set your Garmin to use pace and distance from the pod. If you run the same loop several times, distance will be much more consistant than with GPS. Repeatability is amazing! And if GPS signal is bad, you still have a perfect pace and distance. ;) Data from walking: just simply sync it from Garmin! And do not directly sync the Stryd pod with the app. I am super happy with it! Maybe you can get something out of my experience, so you don't feel you fully wasted your money on it.

Well I dont have a stryde pod, but any notion of getting one has now completely disappeared, not because of your review, but because everyone who likes them in the comment section also seems to be a complete dick.

Oh man. It's like you've walked into a religious camp and shouted "THERE'S NO GOD!" Styders love their power.

I see you've already gotten a lot of feedback (some constructive and reasonable, some unnecessarily accusatory in tone), but as a user of multiple versions of Stryd over the last seven years who has found it quite useful I'll make one more suggestion. Since Garmin added their own version of power to their watches I think it's complicated using Stryd with a Garmin. My personal setup is I used the Stryd with an Apple watch (using the dedicated Stryd App on the watch) as my primary running watch, but I also have a Garmin Forerunner 255 not paired with Stryd that I'll wear as a secondary watch on maybe a 1/3 of my runs to compare data across the two (specifically how well Stryd is measuring distance vs the GPS on the Forerunner, and comparing the optical heart rate date of the two watches). In your case you use a Garmin as your main running watch, so I'd suggest unpairing the Stryd from your Garmin and just pairing it to the Stryd phone app, and when you do treadmill runs I'd start a session on both your Garmin (no Stryd paired) and your phone Stryd app, and then you can compare the Garmin vs Stryd data for those runs. You could do this for outside runs as well, but it's more of a pain having to deal with your phone then, but for a treadmill run it's easy to have your phone just sitting on the treadmill tray anyway.

I think you are suffering from user errors as others have highlighted already, some that I got from your video below: - To start and get a good estimation of your CP, you must run maximum efforts for at least 3 different domains 20s-30s, 2min-3min and 10min-12min. - Do not compare Stryd Power vs Garmin, Coros, Polar or any other sport device manufacturer. There is not a standard for the algorithm to estimate power and therefore they are not compatible - You can use Garmin power if you prefer it but do not mix it with other device manufacturer Power readings. Why? see previous point. - Make sure that you have unchecked the option in the Stryd App on iPhone to allow syncing your weight from Apple Health (I assume you use iPhone, since you mentioned Apple products). This will resolve the inconsistency issue that you mentioned. Weight setting must remain constant to allow power comparisons over time. - You need to connect your Stryd account to your Garmin Connect account so Stryd can import your sessions automatically from Garmin Connect and you do not see the offline import directly from the Stryd footpod that contains the full length of time that you had it on the shoe. Last but not least, here is a great book to learn how to run with power from Steve Bateman, you'll find all those points that I mentioned and more regarding training metrics and how one can properly use running with power to improve performance and minimize injury risk: a.co/d/9hKfWtu Wish you are able to get a better experience. I have been running with power for 5 years and I can say it's totally worth it once you understand it and Stryd it's a very accurate and repeatable tool to use with it. Hope this helps. ✌🏼

As an amateur runner, I've used Stryd for about 4 years. That said, I truly believe the initial learning curve is very steep. Like many I had been running to HR previously, so the concept of zones was not new to me. However, what is hugely different is in the initial setup. As Stryd themselves instruct, 'just running' is not enough. We need to dial in a CP. As you yourself said, 'when the data is wrong, then you cannot trust what it says' I am glad that you already realise this. If you were to continue trying, you really need to get those key data points in. Commonly, these might be max testing for different durations such as, 3min, 9min and 20min. Without proper max testing at those (or something similar) you will find you are stuck with 'when the data is wrong....... Comparing one power meter to another form a different developer is never going to work, different algorithms are used at the very least. Not withstanding where on the body the power reading is taken. Treadmill running: This took me ages to get me head around, but the belt speed varies 'a lot' - that said, I find my Stryd very consistant when TM running. But, that effort is not easy to compare to running outdoors, so be careful if looking for the same power reading = perceived effort when indoors AND out. Syncing device: sync watch not footpod - assuming you are getting the correct readings on the Garmin (from the footpod) Specific charger: a great many watches have a specific charging cable. I summary, I think you have missed here - but again, one month is a very short amount of time to get it all sorted and understood. Remember, GPS is subject to connection with satellites for speed/pace - not so with a power meter. Heart rate drifts over time running - not so with a power meter. It's complicated and for some TOO complicated/not worth the trouble.

Sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience with this! As others have said this is definitely not normal and sounds like something is not set up correctly. There are a few things I'd like to address. Firstly can I check you've entered your height and weight into the Stryd app and sync'd it with your footpod? You won't get "correct" power without correct weight becasue Stryd calculates Watts/kg then multiplies by weight to display Watts. The fact you had different power readings on the same treadmill on two different days suggests to me you may have changed your weight setting between the two? I get absolutely rock steady power on the treadmill at a set speed which adjusts only with changes in treadmill speed. Really the whole point of Stryd is that it's incredibly consistent in its reading of pace and power. If yours is really varying at a fixed pace then something is either wrong with the pod or the power displayed on your watch isn't coming from Stryd. By the way, you can check the weight setting for any activity you recorded (only on the app) by navigating to the activity in your calendar view, clicking ... "View details". Next, you comment on the activity sync including pre and post run walking etc. This means you're syncing directly from the pod to the Stryd app (because the pod can't identify itself when you actually started your run). This is one option but if you want the run only, you'll need to sync from your Garmin account to Stryd account instead. Of course this will only work if your Stryd is correctly connected to your Garmin and your Garmin is recording power from the Stryd (not native Garmin power). I think you'll be able to fix all of your issues just by using the Stryd Zones app (which will require you to input your Stryd Ant ID) and turning off Garmin native power. Then use the Stryd Zones app to record your run. You can set up whatever data screens you want on it but one screen will include the Stryd power data. You'll then need to link your Stryd account to your Garmin account and set up the sync from Garmin to Stryd. You cannot compare Garmin power to Stryd power. They will be different (Garmin is higher) because they use different calculations to arrive at the number. Running power does reuire a model and not everyone agrees. Ultimately this doesn't matter much if you stick with one ecosystem for power and it reports consistently but you can never directly compare between two. With respect to critical power, Styrd will not give you a sensible critical power number until you've done two all out tests at short and medium distance. If you do an all out 3min (or 1km test) and an all out 20min or 5k test, you should have a really good estimate of your critical power. Until then, it will be significantly understated because if you've done say a hard 10x1km with the Stryd it will assume your fastest 1km of those intervals is your max effort. I've been using Stryd since their first footpod back in 2018 (and I've purchased each time they've brought out an updated version), and I've been so happy with it. These days I do not even have pace displayed on my watch - everything is done by power and I even rely on Stryd for pace and distance recording due to its accuracy. But you don't have to go all in like me!

Not consistent with my experience over latest two generations of the product and five seasons. Serious case of RTFM my friend, or contact the extremely supportive FB group remain "challenged". That said the initial configuration of linking garmin, setting up the data fields and getting a base power curve does need you to read the manual. The few known topics are mostly due to Garmin's lack of flexibility.

There are a lot of suspect statements in this review that make me think you do not have it correctly configured in your watch. I have been using several versions over the years the years, and just upgraded to two pods. I have found Stryd to be extremely consistent, both outside and on a treadmill (my #1 use case is to overcome terrible treadmill calibration). An aspect you didn’t touch on is it provides a much more accurate pace and distance than watch gps. Run in Chicago or NYC to see this in action. Stryd does get all your biometric data, if you sync via garmin and not the pod directly. You are also incorrect about some of the advanced metrics (like footpath) which are available with one pod. I’m sorry you do not find it useful, and I would certainly not recommend Stryd to everyone, it’s too expensive and complex for most people’s needs, but it is an incredible device and service when used correctly, and much of your review suggests you are not. Perhaps Stryd needs to improve their onboarding experience. Also, you cannot compare the raw power numbers to other platforms, and your charging comments were a little petty (would you rather wear a brick on your foot so you could plug it directly into the wall?).