THE HONORED MATRES (Twisted Witches + Bene Gesserit Civil War) DUNE EXPLAINED

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@MrJohnnySavs
@MrJohnnySavs Жыл бұрын
I'm loving all the Honored Matre hand deformations; only true Dune fans would remember to include that detail.
@BigSlimyBlob
@BigSlimyBlob Жыл бұрын
The A.I. messed them up. It's canon.
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
This is what starts the Butlerian Jihad.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
lol
@pablom-f8762
@pablom-f8762 Жыл бұрын
They missed the colorful garments, these all dress in black.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained 🤷‍♂️
@johnrandolph1989
@johnrandolph1989 Жыл бұрын
And I thought the MENTATS were weird, but DUNE is crazy like that.
@shoulderpyro
@shoulderpyro Жыл бұрын
Just wait til you read up on the Tleilaxu...
@mr.blythe8595
@mr.blythe8595 Жыл бұрын
io😢o😢i😢😢 😅
@talitafranco7230
@talitafranco7230 9 ай бұрын
@@shoulderpyrothey are even crazier!! 😂
@Christo_Trismegistus
@Christo_Trismegistus 3 ай бұрын
Axiotl tanks
@toverkleet
@toverkleet Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this the reason that Leto II sacrificed himself as a person and good name to become a tyrant to cleanse humanity of prescience? I think Herbert then really wrote Leto II as more then a hero like Plato described in the Republic, one that is willing to sacrifice his heroic (possible) status and do everything to safe humanity, also through harsh means.
@Revz8bit
@Revz8bit Жыл бұрын
I thought he bred the No gene and caused the acattering to make all of humanity impossible to find via prescience
@aprilyount7713
@aprilyount7713 10 ай бұрын
I though this guy said the beginning of all the two witchy teams lol started 2000 years after his sons death?
@alexleija7895
@alexleija7895 9 ай бұрын
@@aprilyount7713yes but Leto could see into the Golden Path and knew what was coming, even 2000 years before it happened. Hence why he knew the only way to stay on the path was to sacrifice himself for humanity. Dune is absolutely insane
@tgiacin435
@tgiacin435 6 ай бұрын
In part yes, however that’s only people with Siona Atreides’s gene. But it was also to break humanity out of stagnation
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk Жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that Herbert passed before he could flesh out the Futars and how they related to the Honored Matres.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 Жыл бұрын
I like it, the books take a series of slices out of the history of the universe and just as you are dropped in blind save for what humanity remembers of its past, you are left blind save for what humanity might predict of its future. If all the answers were given where would be the fun in theorising?
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk
@BaoNguyen-bh2rk Жыл бұрын
@@MrJinxmaster1 Herbert always introduced elements that gets expounded on in the next Dune novel. Chapter House was no different.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 Жыл бұрын
@@BaoNguyen-bh2rk yes in sure he could have gone on and on but we'd still be left wondering what might come later regardless of if he finished book 7 or book 20
@gimpytheimp
@gimpytheimp Жыл бұрын
His son and that other guy didn't help. Making the unknown enemy into machines from the Jihad and retconning the time of thinking machines to literally being AI overlords was a bad call.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJinxmaster1 I somewhat agree. Anything is better than a sequel dump from his son. Chapterhouse seemed as good a time to end it as anywhere. The Honored Matres were merged with the Bene Gesserit and the Atreides bloodline as well the rebirthed ghola were safely aboard the no-ship to act as insurance if it didn't work out. I think the sand worm was onboard as well though I might be misremembering. Luv and Peace.
@X2yt
@X2yt Жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder how much of the Golden Path Leto has seen. He knew what it cost and that it would result in salvation of human race, but all that happened like planned way before Omnius and Erasmus returned. Did Leto foresee that, or was his vision over before that? Was the return of the machines part of Golden Path, or just the result? Considering how Leto was the one that started it, and how Leto II contributed to it, did either of them know that the same path that led to salvation of humanity, would also bring humanity extremely close to complete extinction? The future had No-ships, so presumably neither Leto knew about what was going to happen, but they were directly responsible for the history that happened up to that point. It's pretty interesting to think that unknowingly their prescience resulted in this sort of cyclical history of destruction and salvation, where under Leto II humanity was suppressed and regressed in evolution, only to explode across the universe upon his death, only to then be hunted down first by their descendants on form of Honored Matres, then by the forgotten Greatest Enemy, the thinking Machines. Of course, in the end this resulted in the unification of all life, machine and biological, but it raises a question whether the cycle could repeat. Omnius was banished to another universe by Oracle of Time, also one of the first extremely important figures of history, but in theory, in far future unified mechanised humanity could find a way to access these new universes, and release Omnius once again, or maybe even the others, non-unified humans could return from edges of the universe after the Scattering, and fight against unified human machine race, similar to how Honored Matres returned and fought against old empire. And in general, it's pretty weird how throughout the history of Dune, it was generally the same forces struggling against each other. At first it was humanity, with wars against each other in ancient history, then it was humanity versus machines, the after Jihad, it was humanity versus humanity once again, but this time with addition of melange and prescience, the it was humanity versus machines again, with both sides having form of prescience, and in the end it all culminated with characters from like 14000 years ago resurrecting and fighting each other. In every situation, it was essentially humanity creating it's own destruction and salvation, but only temporarily, with every outcome resulting in another struggle. It's like life itself is doomed to eternally struggle against itself.
@johna.zoidberg3049
@johna.zoidberg3049 Жыл бұрын
Basically Mass Effect but better.
@X2yt
@X2yt Жыл бұрын
@@johna.zoidberg3049 sort of, but in this case I'd say it's more of a Halo situation. With glassing of the planets, resetting humanity, and primordial beings also becoming the final villains, one could draw more than a few parallels between Dune and Halo.
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
The Honored Matres represent an aspect of the Monomyth theory that I like to call "The Lilith Parable". Compare and contrast them with The Romulans from Star Trek, the Drow from D&D (Spider Queen), The Mord-Sith from Sword of Truth, The Force-Witches of Dathomir from Star Wars, The Drukhari Wyches from 40k and many more. The idyllic "elfin" faction always seems to have a dark secret that returns with a vengeance in the form of matriarchal sadists. When you recognize these patterns, you can see it playing out again and again.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 Жыл бұрын
The Witches of Dathomir don't fit the pattern. In Star Wars, it would be the Sith who would fit the pattern except they aren't matriarchal. Also while I don't know that much about Romulans, I also don't remember them being matriarchal.
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
Let’s keep it funny. This Monomyth stuff isn’t a hard science. It doesn’t have to be 1-for-1. It’s been decades since I read “The Courtship of Princess Leia”, but here’s what Wookieepedia says about the Witches of Dathomir... “But when Allya assumed leadership of the population, events were set in motion that would lead to the development of a unique Human culture on Dathomir, founded on the enslavement of the male population to Force-sensitive female warriors” ... and that sounds pretty spot-on for Honored Matre clones (metaphorical clones, of course), particularly the Nightsisters faction of them. Siân Phillips played both Reverend Mother Mohiam of the Bene Gesserit and Charal of the Force Witches in Dune (1984) and Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985) respectively. This witch character actually predates the invention of Dathomir and she was later retconned into a Nightsister. Mara Jade is practically Murbella from Chapterhouse: Dune too. (At this point, it may be easier just to list the stuff that Star Wars didn’t lift from Dune.) Also, in the old Star Trek episode “The Enterprise Incident” Mr Spock is tempted by a seductive Romulan Commander played by Joanne Linville. This is the first episode to feature a female starship captain; which is somewhat interesting, since Starfleet only allowed male captains to helm their ships at this time. (Seriously.) In the Voyager episode “The Q and the Grey”, Q off-handedly mentions that he could’ve mated with the Romulan Empress, although this is never really explored. Caithlin Dar (The Final Frontier), Valeris (The Undiscovered Country), Narissa (Picard), Tasha Yar’s Half-Romulan daughter Sela (TNG) and Commander Toreth (TNG) also come to mind. Deanna Troi also impersonates a Tal Shiar officer in one episode of TNG, at least implying that Romulan culture is no stranger to women in power. There’s a lot more of this stuff in the Rihansu/Romulan Way books although I have not read them (yet). On that note, Elnor (Picard) is space Drizzt, in that same intangible way that Riddick (Pitch Black) is also space Drizzt.
@wasserperson
@wasserperson Жыл бұрын
​@@thomriley1036ftfy: "this monomyth stuff isn't science" I mean, it's just Campbell's multiverse fanfic
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
@@wasserperson It does play off the Jungian Psycology angle quite a bit, but I bet neither of them envisioned our world of endless sequels, spin-offs, knock-offs and "re-imaginings" for "modern audiences".
@wasserperson
@wasserperson Жыл бұрын
@@thomriley1036 Mmmm, Jung was also doing fanfic, not anything involving whadayacall rigor, falsifiability, replicability.
@mrrictus
@mrrictus Жыл бұрын
The Honored Matres mastered the the technique of Simp conversion, scary...
@cedricthomas4867
@cedricthomas4867 8 ай бұрын
And against a dudes will …
@japhethk.4016
@japhethk.4016 7 ай бұрын
Literally what modern women are doing to men
@koko40800
@koko40800 6 ай бұрын
@@japhethk.4016 Maybe they need to man up and be more like Duncan Idaho...mental and psychological weaklings were meant to be simps, slaves and followers...some of them like it, and stay that way...others don't like it, and break free of their mental slavery...nobody can enslave a truly strong mind, and free thinker
@Tonytonytonyyy
@Tonytonytonyyy 5 ай бұрын
@@japhethk.4016 sucks to be easily manipulated.
@ShaiShai1
@ShaiShai1 3 ай бұрын
Yall are so lame omg
@Linus8472
@Linus8472 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating and horrifying at the same time. Thank you for sharing!
@trane07
@trane07 Жыл бұрын
It was intriguing to see the mindset of these Honored Matre. They were power hungry hedonists with appetites that bordered on the surreal and inhumane. It was like female versions of the Baron Harkonnen, but FAR more intense.
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass Жыл бұрын
Could it then be postulated that St. Alia of the Knife was the first Honored Matre?
@koko40800
@koko40800 Жыл бұрын
@@Robert_Douglass I think Jessica was the precursor of the Honored Matres - she disobeyed and broke the most sacred BG orders and covenants, thirsting for power and reverence
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass Жыл бұрын
@@koko40800 Your statement doesn't exactly cancel my argument. It rather supports it, as a precursor crimes before and gives rise to the genuine article. Alia was the daughter of Jessica Harkonnen, after all, even if she was also the daughter of Duke Leto Atreides.
@koko40800
@koko40800 Жыл бұрын
True...but if Alia was the first Honored Matre, Jessica was the Original Mother (Superior) of the Honored Matres by giving birth to her....and she did it through an act of deep treachery, not only betraying her daughter but one of the most sacred BG covenants...every BG was warned drinking the Water of Life during pregnancy would lead to abomination, and madness in the child....and perhaps Jessica also did it through genetic memory she was unaware of, because the Water of Life only gave her female memories, of previous Reverend Mothers...but no memory on the father's side...perhaps it was her treacherous Harkonnen genes from the Baron's side...so I would suggest that Baron Harkonnen not only took over the psyche of Alia, but unknowingly in Jessica as well
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass Жыл бұрын
@@koko40800 I wouldn't say that Jessica's father, the Baron Harkonnen, took over her mind from the memories within her, because Jessica was not pre-born, but Alia was. It is more likely that her pre-born nature as well as being the sister of the Kwisatz Haderach (with access to the same powers) produced just the combination of genetic heritage and Bene Gesserit training that allowed Alia to gain access to the male Other Memory and give the memory of the Baron licence to take over her mind. He was the only one strong enough to silence the voices of Other Memory.
@kiancuratolo903
@kiancuratolo903 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy to think that if the Dune movies spiral far enough we get to Jason Momoa being the main character, My hope beyond hope is after the third movie we will get the rest of the series as a long form tv show.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
At the very least Children of Dune should be in Theaters, God Emperor of Dune on HBO Max with James McAvey doing the voice of “Old Worm” Leto II
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 29 күн бұрын
The ULTIMATE KWISATZ HADERACH
@spencers4121
@spencers4121 Жыл бұрын
To be clear in the original books, we don't know who the enemy they're fleeing from. It's Herberts son who finished the series, and gave us the AI machines.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere Жыл бұрын
To be clear, if Herbert's son used his father's notes to finish the story, then the identity of "the enemy" is not up for debate by intellectually honest people. You can argue about the quality of the writing in the sequels but, that has nothing to do with canonicity or Frank's original intentions. Proponents of the "super facedancer" theory ignore two major points: A. The machine empire always had human slaves. Facedancers being among their scout forces isn't a huge leap. B. Leto II being afraid of face dancers creates a massive plot hole and makes Paul/Leto II look like massive idiots. Paul could've exterminated the Bene Tleilax at the end of the first book.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 Жыл бұрын
@@similaritiesendhere To be clear these notes are said to have totalled 1.5 pages of writing, hardly an in depth or final vision for the novel. F.H would have likely changed a great deal from this early outline by the time he finished a 7th book and B.H likely deviated and elaborated greatly. Besides, these notes are unpublished and unverified. For all we know they could have been far less or limited only to covering only a narrow part of what a 7th book would be such as just the philosophy or themes. You are assuming that the enemy that B.H chose was also chosen by F.H based on 0 evidence. Claiming that a dead author had 100% decided on a plot point that he never finished or even fully drafted is not intellectually honest and unless F.H commented on it publicly and directly it is absolutely up to debate unless one has access to privelaged information and can PROVE it.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere Жыл бұрын
@@MrJinxmaster1 To be clear, the foreshadowing for AI being the greatest threat starts in the very first book. Also, the most dangerous thing about Daniel and Marty was their inexplicably advanced technology. This entire debate is actual fanfiction believers pretending they knew Frank better than his own son and that's sad on several levels. You probably weren't even born when Brian Herbert read Dune for the first time.
@ljbeats00
@ljbeats00 Жыл бұрын
@@similaritiesendhere 100% agree, just finished the 8th book and the last two are pretty solid, just written a bit differently, the only problem I had with the final two is the reliance on abilities explored in the previous series as major plot devices. Feels like they were kind of using them as a crutch to move the story and felt a bit forced. The random interjections of prequel books is a bit jarring but people need to give them more props for those books.
@similaritiesendhere
@similaritiesendhere Жыл бұрын
@@ljbeats00 Epic series like Dune, GoT, etc run the risk of branching out too far for the author to easily reel it back in for an actual conclusion. LoTR starts wrapping up in the second novel. Most of the characters are introduced by then and you know the stakes. Meanwhile, the Dune series is still getting more convoluted by book 6. I read all of the "extended universe" books almost like a Cliff's Notes version of what Frank Herbert would've written. It satisfies my curiosity for an ending. Frank would've done a better job telling the same overall tale but, it would've taken him decades.
@MrMementoMori
@MrMementoMori Жыл бұрын
More Dune lore and it’s almost 30 minutes?! Sold!!!
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Lets gooo!
@noahkamakeeaina5454
@noahkamakeeaina5454 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained i absolutely love all your vids man especially the dune ones
@fonztorres
@fonztorres Жыл бұрын
filmcomicsexplained is one of my favourite channels for the vast amount of subjects he covers in detail but if you enjoy long-form Dune content I would also recommend Quinn's Ideas. He has hours of Dune videos in his catalogue.
@brianstanton2721
@brianstanton2721 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this channel is absolutely god tier just like dune is!!!
@JunkPhuJP
@JunkPhuJP Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the War between the Space Nuns and the Space Dominatrixes. And the first step to reuniting the BG and HM was a BDSM session where the top became a bottom and the bottom became a top. Over and over again…
@BlackMarvel25
@BlackMarvel25 9 ай бұрын
Bene geserit are not nuns. Lol.
@JunkPhuJP
@JunkPhuJP 9 ай бұрын
@@BlackMarvel25yes and no. No in the sense that they aren’t religious. Yes in the sense they did have a group called the Missionary Protectiva, whose job it was to spread tales and myths and prophesy as means to control the masses. Also, their breeding program was meant to create a powerful being who could see all pasts from male and female linages, and see all possible futures, with the hope of using that power to lead humanity. A messiah-like figure.
@BlackMarvel25
@BlackMarvel25 9 ай бұрын
@JunkPhuJP yea that's true becayse they did it on arakis with the fremen which caused all of this now. Self fulfilling prophecy pretty much.
@koko40800
@koko40800 9 ай бұрын
And nuns have a reputation as some of the most sadistic...at least judging from the scare stories I heard from my mother, and others who went to some of the older, stricter Catholic schools ;-)
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 Жыл бұрын
Yes, more DUNE content, please!
@jordanscherr6699
@jordanscherr6699 9 ай бұрын
This explains a lot, including why Lato did as he did. I think he knew the machines would never be truely defeated or go away, and nore would humanity. If the bloodshed and mechanical destruction alike where to stop, new routes would have to be found. Ideas the empire would never allow. So by destroying the empire, events like these could happen.
@safshannon
@safshannon Жыл бұрын
Not to diminish the narrative - its awesome. But the art work! My goodness its wonderful!
@archieames1968
@archieames1968 Жыл бұрын
It probably took several minutes of hard work tweaking the ai prompt just right.
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
Heretically awesome art.
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn 9 ай бұрын
Yes!❤
@Leto_II
@Leto_II Жыл бұрын
Yay more Dune, we always need more Dune
@badgeleys
@badgeleys Жыл бұрын
My dude you are the best narrator ever,hands down!
@peejurtica7341
@peejurtica7341 Жыл бұрын
How about an in-depth study on the Holtzmann Shield?
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone ever wonder what would happen if a Lightsaber struck a Holtzman Shield?
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 Жыл бұрын
Please do Miles Teg, the next generation of atreides prescience. Awakened by an advanced torture device just as Paul was.
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see him play *Risk* with Grand Admiral Thrawn and listen to their back-and-forth.
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 29 күн бұрын
Actually, all “awakenings” in the Dune Universe are achieved through some kind of “AGONY”.
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 29 күн бұрын
Miles was not “as prescient as” Paul was, but he did have a sort of prescience he called “second sight”, which helped him see what was going to happen in his immediate future, and also enabled him to see the “no-ships” (invisible to all others). Teg also gained superhuman speed, which saved him and his friends more than once. He later came back as a ghola (a clone created from cadaver’s cells). Miles Teg was one of the most interesting characters, and a result of thousands of years of genetic manipulations made by the God Emperor. Since the awakening of Siona Atreides by Leto II, all her descendants were invisible to all prescience (which was an important feature of Leto’s Golden Path). Miles Teg, one descendant of hers, inherited those genetic traits, and was also invisible to prescience. While Miles Teg was awakened by pain agony, provoked by the Thleilaxu Probe (a probe used to get informations through torture), Paul was actually awakened by a Spice Agony.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 16 күн бұрын
@@TETASARAIVACS Yeah, 100% it's pain that awakens the wild trait that gave paul and teg their powers that much is clear, glad to see someone on my wavelength here. I do however feel that paul may have been awakened by the test of pain. He endured more than any before him (or at least "no woman" which may likely be more than any man ever did either) and was certainly experiencing a dilute or hazy prescience prior to enduring the spice agony. Perhaps paul's success came from this earlier minor awakening, allowing him to find a path to a greater awakening? Also worth note that (at least it seems to me) the torture device used on teg may have derived from similar nerve induction tech as used in the box. Interestingly the bene gesserit seem to care more about the Gom Jabbar than the box, with Jessica saying how paul was tested with the needle rather than making mention of the box. This fits well to my personal understanding that the bene gesserit fundementally misunderstood what prescience was and how it worked. Which also helps explain why teg was able to awaken despite a great many generations of BG breeding programs aimed at reducing the risk of prescience re-emerging. I also remember a striking similarity in the two scenes when reading paul's test of pain and teg's torture. As for teg being less prescient than paul I half agree. Yes in terms of foresight and farsight but as his abilities are clearly derived from the same source as paul's it seems to me that his ability simply manifested differently rather than to a lesser degree. Seeing no-ships and exceeding the physical limits of BG training suggests his trait was very strong in very different ways, perhaps due to the lesser role of spice in his life? It seems clear to me that the worms and spice are somehow connected to "fate" in the "duniverse" perhaps they are 4 dimensional or their origins (mysterious and unknown as they are) relate to some time traveling or even time controling entity(ies) This is almost all from a personal reading of the complete 6 part series a few years ago now and I confess I've not read the later books more than once (yet) so appologies if I misremembered something.
@TETASARAIVACS
@TETASARAIVACS 16 күн бұрын
@@MrJinxmaster1 Nice! You clearly have your own opinions, formed from your own readings. Which is great indeed! 😊 I would add that, when we compare Teg with Paul, we must remember that while Paul is already a result of hundreds of generations of genetic manipulation (through the Bene Gesserit controlled breeding program), Teg is a result of a further genetic/breeding manipulation (done by the God Emperor until Moneo and Siona, but which was continued further on by the Bene Gesserit again until Teg and Odrade). Teg had even more potential than Paul did. I guess. Also, there’s a little difference between both awakenings. Paul was tested “with the gom jabbar”, because although the pain was provoked by the box, the test was whether he could keep enduring that pain knowing that the poison would kill him if he took his hand out (because that’s what “a human” would do, apparently 😄). So he “survived the gom jabbar”. He had to voluntarily (although forcibly) endure the pain. BUT, it was really the spice what awakened him. As a result of genetic manipulation, Paul was already “strong with the Force” (sorry about that 😁), and already had his prescient dreams, and a hint of truthsaying. Then just by arriving in Arrakis he already started to change, and it only increased when he fled to the desert, because of the spice in the air, and in the food. But only after he took the water of life and passed through the spice agony was he truly awakened! Teg had no choice, as he was tortured with that Ixian probe beyond his limits. His agony was one of pure pain. It had little to do with spice indeed. Maybe it was because he was an Atreides (meaning “genetically perfected”), and because he was a well experienced mentat… Anyway, his super-speed and super-strength came with terrible cost, as it burned huge amounts of energy, what could eventually kill him (which is what eventually happens to him later as a ghola). There’s also the last Duncan, who was modified by the Thleilaxu in order to have the same physical strength and speed as Teg and the other Atreides, and also was “programmed” to be “imprinting-proof”, and because of that he went through an “agony” as well, which eventually turned him into the “Ultimate Kwisatz Haderach”. He was even able to navigate through space-folding! (sorry about the length 😬)
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын
Another perfect Dune video analysis love your channel.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained 😎👊🏾
@theguy_0299
@theguy_0299 Жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man, I see dune and I click
@careylowell
@careylowell Жыл бұрын
If only 1/25th of all of youtube could be this well developed, illustrated and entertaining.
@luisalvarado3916
@luisalvarado3916 Жыл бұрын
Recent subscriber here. This is dope, so much info, great content. I see u have more Dune videos, i will check them out.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@chairforce1636
@chairforce1636 Жыл бұрын
Another video dune I’m excited. Thanks for the videos always a great watch.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 Жыл бұрын
It would be good to make clear somehow when you're using information from the original 6 books or from the posthumous sequels/prequels written by his son.
@tropicvibe
@tropicvibe Ай бұрын
Thank you, great post on HM back story. The only thing that was unfortunately left out was that in their fighting style, they used kicks in physical combat, derived from several other styles kicking styles. In other words, they killed with their feet since legs are larger and stronger limbs than arms. Murbella killed an upstart HM with a Hormu style kick.
@lincolnross9000
@lincolnross9000 Жыл бұрын
So this is where the Sith came from...
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
Don't get me started... Just compare Jabba to The God Emperor and realize the Han was smuggling Spice for him. (Monomyth, bla bla bla...)
@ericokonkwo7771
@ericokonkwo7771 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if a parallel universe like this actually did exist and when our reverse opposites from this universe came to our world, they decided they hated our ways and wanted to be hostel toward us and attempt to make earth like theirs by any means possible, (silmilar to Zod in Man of Steel and the virus alien in the Invasion 2006 film).
@EndoScorpion
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
If they were our complete opposites... they'd come in peace.
@davidestep2912
@davidestep2912 Жыл бұрын
@@EndoScorpion this comment works for me as I was confused at first over them bringing us low cost group lodgings. let them bring hostels!
@dhruv9744
@dhruv9744 Жыл бұрын
don't buy anything written beyond Chapterhouse Dune, its the last test written by Frank Herbert. Brain Herbert and Kevin J Anderson dont count, infact they retconned Daniel and Marty to be AI instead of the face dancers Frank Herbert intended them to be.
@MrSleepwalkingawake
@MrSleepwalkingawake Жыл бұрын
I’m curious how you know what he wanted more than his son did?
@anubusx
@anubusx Жыл бұрын
Do The Ancient Enemy from The Phantoms.
@kevinkorenke3569
@kevinkorenke3569 Жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of seeing Frank Herbert's work mixed in with the works of Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson. The subsequent works feel like weaker fan fiction and retconn far too many plot points that were better to just be left as background mysteries.
@LouisGerbercapacitacion
@LouisGerbercapacitacion 3 ай бұрын
I was never into Dune, and now in my 40's for the first time I watched the movies and suddenly i find myself diving into the vast universe of Dune...Seems like im going to have to start reading the books
@kgacalendar
@kgacalendar Жыл бұрын
I think it should be highlighted when it's not Frank Herbert lore but instead by other authors. This is not a crusade against fan fiction or parallel universes within a certain fiction, but I find this video to not highlight enough that this is taken from his son's fan fiction.
@justincooper1884
@justincooper1884 Жыл бұрын
A fair point but those of us who know, know. :)
@ziegfeld4131
@ziegfeld4131 Жыл бұрын
Lol at his son fan fiction the guy lived his entire life and worshiped his fathers books i think he knows more than you
@williamhosford2796
@williamhosford2796 Жыл бұрын
I think it may have been fun to date an Honored Matre.
@sonar357
@sonar357 Жыл бұрын
Question: where do you find all the awesome artwork for this stuff?
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
We made it using AI!
@sonar357
@sonar357 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained Soooo....the Thinking-Machine-Enemy-Skynet-Empire? TRAITOR!!!! jklol
@yaldabaoth2
@yaldabaoth2 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained The irony!
@darkcosmos88
@darkcosmos88 Жыл бұрын
Is the AI artwork available for download?
@smreason
@smreason Жыл бұрын
Like other AI generated content, it won’t be long before everyone can recognize it and be tired of seeing it everywhere. It’s also ethically and legally gray as it is creating derived works without any credit or permission from the originating artists.
@napoliansolo7865
@napoliansolo7865 Жыл бұрын
My favorite character after Duncan Idaho is Miles Teg, the Supreme Bashar.
@Gilraen15
@Gilraen15 4 ай бұрын
Would love to see your guys’s take on Duncan Idaho
@johncarter8103
@johncarter8103 Жыл бұрын
Love the video can you do Panam Palmer,Meredith Stout,Rogue and Judy Alvarez from Cyberpunk 2077
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Adding it to the list! Thanks
@conanhighwoods4304
@conanhighwoods4304 Жыл бұрын
You should cover the 1996 game Harvester.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Adding it to the list!
@jackevanson9509
@jackevanson9509 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video as always where do you find the Art work? It’s amazing
@AresofWar_
@AresofWar_ Жыл бұрын
You should do the Alien cultists in the new game Dark Descent, since you like aliens so much
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Adding it to the list!
@AresofWar_
@AresofWar_ Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained good add, there's alot of new stuff in the game that hasn't been shown before , that was the first thing I could think of
@DenLim123
@DenLim123 Жыл бұрын
I guess this is the inspiration for the sith in star wars
@pyroromancer
@pyroromancer Жыл бұрын
damn this art is driving me wild, dark hair is my type
@anthonyturano1605
@anthonyturano1605 Жыл бұрын
Absolute banger vid my guy loved it
@severalracoons9315
@severalracoons9315 Жыл бұрын
More Dune lore that I know nothing about? Bless me FCE
@darkcosmos88
@darkcosmos88 Жыл бұрын
Any idea on where he found the various artwork for this video? Some of it would make excellent wallpapers.
@berjbedrosian4225
@berjbedrosian4225 10 ай бұрын
its AI Gen.
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass Жыл бұрын
Had Brian Herbert ever envisioned the Dune saga past the end of his trilogy? Or did the synthesis of Duncan Idaho and Omnius into a techno-Kwisatz Haderach constitute the definitive end of the Dune cycle?
@kiancuratolo903
@kiancuratolo903 Жыл бұрын
MORE DUNE LORE Hypeeee
@Chill-mm4pn
@Chill-mm4pn 9 ай бұрын
I can't get over Leto II turning into a big ol' sandworm lol
@shenzeroxs4547
@shenzeroxs4547 Жыл бұрын
Same question where did the artwork come from and who is the artist it’s beautiful I like it
@greatdude7279
@greatdude7279 Жыл бұрын
Honored Matres leader: "I am the senate" "not yet" "Its treason then"
Жыл бұрын
Are you using that stable diffusion? The art goes hand in hand with the script 👌🏽. And as always, love the dune content.
@frankmontez6853
@frankmontez6853 Жыл бұрын
Hmm , I didn't get that at all . The great enemy were Face Dancers the great fear of Honored Matres . That's who they were fleeing . Duncan Idaho fleeing in that no ship for countless years had that vision of old couple who almost found them were Face Dancers
@dubcwherever
@dubcwherever 9 ай бұрын
Duncan Idaho has the most bizarre character arch of all by far, in a story where multiple people merge with giant sandstorms.
@Vintage-28
@Vintage-28 Жыл бұрын
This one caught me off guard with how serious it was, but still had a Star Wars tone. Dave Batista is great as the villain. Damn movie even made me go out and buy a couple of the books 📚
@maeror1022
@maeror1022 Жыл бұрын
They share some similarities with the Druchii from warhammer 40k, don't they?
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
I play Drukhari, and yes, yes they really do. So does the rest of 40k... And, look up the old "Nemesis the Warlock" comic for more of where it came from. (Blood Angels Space Marines come from a "Secundus" named planet, just like the Sardaukar. I play them too, and the blood-letting ritual thing in the movie was spot on.)
@thorinteague989
@thorinteague989 Жыл бұрын
Dune is almost like a 40k prequil... almost...
@johnjohnjohnson7720
@johnjohnjohnson7720 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the ending song?
@Groovegandalf
@Groovegandalf Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on Ibrahim Von Holtzman. He is one of the biggest reasons that the world is the way it is at this point, and his story is a movie all in itself.
@Filterdissman
@Filterdissman Жыл бұрын
Thanks Niat!
@ShiroWretchedEggX
@ShiroWretchedEggX Жыл бұрын
I love the art. Where did you get the artwork?
@defbird
@defbird 10 ай бұрын
Who did the art for this? Very good!!!❤😊
@petebngyn
@petebngyn Жыл бұрын
The one of many faces sounds like Face dancers who must have evolved.
@justincooper1884
@justincooper1884 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@WakingDreamer01
@WakingDreamer01 Жыл бұрын
This kind of proves the known galaxy of the Imperium was better when Leto II Atreides was still ruler...no wars, no famine - no needless deaths.
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
In the words of Murabella to Darwe O’draid in other memory “3500 years of boredom”
@WakingDreamer01
@WakingDreamer01 Жыл бұрын
@@sawtooth808 If bordem is the price of peace - it's a price worth paying for. Compared to say all the worlds enslaved or destroyed by the Twisted Sisters, followed again by the Thinking Machines - that all came after...the bordem.
@miggiraed.raquinel8867
@miggiraed.raquinel8867 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the ttrpg Kult? It's the matrix before the matrix mixed with Hellraiser and of course Gnosticism.
@SkyFly19853
@SkyFly19853 Жыл бұрын
They just spice things up... That's all.. 🤔😏
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
🤣
@SkyFly19853
@SkyFly19853 Жыл бұрын
@@filmcomicsexplained Yeah... You get the point... 😏🔥🔥🔥
@johnhargrove5268
@johnhargrove5268 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do a video for The High Evolutionary from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
@joek.7819
@joek.7819 Жыл бұрын
Do one on the Bashar Miles Teg, my favourite.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 Жыл бұрын
The Honored Matres remind me of the Sith; dark offshot of a original group, lust for power and conquest, treacherous and genocidal. And those pictures are beautiful.
@luisalvarado3916
@luisalvarado3916 Жыл бұрын
Maybe u can check Significant Other? Is a horror sci-fi movie with themes of space, individuality and pain.
@filmcomicsexplained
@filmcomicsexplained Жыл бұрын
Adding it to the list!
@dsadik666
@dsadik666 Жыл бұрын
Woo more dune content.
@napoliansolo7865
@napoliansolo7865 Жыл бұрын
People who turn their noses up at the books written by Brian Herbert and Keven Anderson do not know the stories of what happened to Duncan after he fled Chapter House, they also lack the prelude to Dune books, written by Brian and Keven. Brian and Keven used notes written by Frank Herbert on the future books and story lines. They deserve a read by true Dune fans.
@jcdenton7891
@jcdenton7891 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find the art for the thumbnail? It looks good.
@redpillcommando
@redpillcommando Жыл бұрын
Good video, but I have to ask, where did you find these images. This is some of the most hauntingly beautiful science fiction art I have ever seen.
@rthat1
@rthat1 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s ai generated
@jehtalent3sixtymusic
@jehtalent3sixtymusic 8 ай бұрын
A day will come when these beautiful women of Dune will get their story told, not just from reading the book 📖 but through screen time 🎬🍿🍿 What a great movie full of Action ⚔️ and Love🫂💕 it will be
@CaseyHancocki3luefire
@CaseyHancocki3luefire Жыл бұрын
where did you get the art for this video?
@emmyturner7385
@emmyturner7385 Жыл бұрын
Is there a book about this?? It's so cool it sounds like my RimWorld playthroughs
@gr8tbigtreehugger
@gr8tbigtreehugger Жыл бұрын
Very awesome - many thanks! Great AI art too - prompt skillz!
@davidcolon2906
@davidcolon2906 11 ай бұрын
how about the life of Erasmus He was one of the only characters that spaned that whole story time from the beginning to the end.
@WongGamSingLegacy
@WongGamSingLegacy Жыл бұрын
very nice thumbnail where's the lamb sauce?
@tjm11015
@tjm11015 Жыл бұрын
I've been a huge fan of Dune for 25 years, but I'm sad to say I've never read any book past The God Emperor. I have been afraid it would get lost and convoluted. Are they worth reading?
@thomriley1036
@thomriley1036 Жыл бұрын
Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune are worth reading, but keep in mind that Frank Herbert was actively dying at the time and I really got the feeling that he was racing the clock when he wrote them. There was one more book planned, but he never got that far. The prequels and sequels were written largely by his son, and it's just not the same.
@mariar3767
@mariar3767 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion yes . I love the chess game between the sisters and the matres 😁 So many ups and downs as they fight ant try to outsmart each other .
@emodante1084
@emodante1084 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone have a link to the art used in the thumbnail?
@thearmchairjournalist566
@thearmchairjournalist566 Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame no one will step up and do a tv series of all the Dune books like the GOT series, obviously without D & D 😂
@ZenGuyMax
@ZenGuyMax Жыл бұрын
Hey, don't forget everything GREAT about GoT ALSO came from D&D! Looking forward to what they do with "The 3-Body Problem"... 🤔
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 Жыл бұрын
There was supposed to be a Sisterhood of Dune TV series on HBO Max…however production of that turned into a 💩show.
@TheLuketh1990
@TheLuketh1990 Жыл бұрын
The dune universe is so good holy sheet
@dwightgaston6079
@dwightgaston6079 Жыл бұрын
No credits to the artists? Or did you create all the illustrations?
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa Жыл бұрын
Niyat could you cover 2022s "Bones and All"?
@thrustvectoring8120
@thrustvectoring8120 9 ай бұрын
Why would anyone honor a mattress? Do they sleep on bare wood or what?
@Alfadrottning86
@Alfadrottning86 Жыл бұрын
Wait - that is exactly the same story that a faction in "Sins of a solar Empire" had (Advent) .. wonder if they had trouble with the copyright
@Kwasimitsu
@Kwasimitsu Жыл бұрын
Was the Benne Gesserit immunity due to their skills, or it's ineffectiveness in same sex dynamics?
@mariar3767
@mariar3767 Жыл бұрын
They had total control over their body and mind to celular level . Hard to beat that .
@Eliphas_Leary
@Eliphas_Leary Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to watch a show or movie series with the full tale of the Duncan.
@TheBayzent
@TheBayzent 9 ай бұрын
Which one of all of the Gholas?
@koko40800
@koko40800 6 ай бұрын
They made a biopic about him (in the Duniverse), title was 'Pimp Daddy of the Imperium'
@BasementPepperoni
@BasementPepperoni Жыл бұрын
"They perfected sexual intercourse into a narcotic process, resulting in complete subservience." Good god man, talk about being whipped.
@koko40800
@koko40800 6 ай бұрын
Talk about some Goooood P
@joemerriman26
@joemerriman26 Жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of the original books I feel like his son made them to much of a y.a book series when took over them with his co writer
@Floppy-1235
@Floppy-1235 Жыл бұрын
This is much Brian Herbert lore.
@anubusx
@anubusx Жыл бұрын
Do Outlander.
@mannyomega713
@mannyomega713 Жыл бұрын
nefarious next please
@SKy_the_Thunder
@SKy_the_Thunder Жыл бұрын
The AI images keep distracting me with their uncanny valley effect... Gotta watch these episodes on audio only...
@bryanmahnke805
@bryanmahnke805 Жыл бұрын
"I cannot accept the self serving accounts of Dar-Es-Balat" first of all, rude. secondly - dude gave up everything to save humanity lol
@mahe7744
@mahe7744 Жыл бұрын
I have never felt so heretical before
@matthewbette1152
@matthewbette1152 9 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh yes.....The Honored Matress.....pretty sure thats what my roomate called his bed in college. Matress, matre(y). Potatress, potatre. Either of those are fine I guess, as long as I never again have to suffer through hearing them called Maters......like taters......or Cars if you're into that. Chachow!
@FriederikeBochmann
@FriederikeBochmann 6 ай бұрын
Matron. The one in charge …
@Jorunic
@Jorunic Жыл бұрын
Why does the thumbnail remind me of Serana from dawnguard?
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