I never understood why some people think destroying other people's property is so cool, like seriously, what is the point of being an absolute malicious loser?
@JohnnyB_11233 жыл бұрын
trying to understand people like that is pointless, there are just some inconsiderate pieces of shit out there that dont care for anyone but themselves
@nagsterthegangster35483 жыл бұрын
It's the very rare chance to be destructive without consequences. As a youth, I always preferred to build rather than destroy. But there were many opportunities where some mindless property damage presented itself and I can attest there was a compulsion to just kinda, fuck shit up and expend some energy. It feels good and there's no replacement for it thats acceptable in todays society. Couple that with some anxiety-reducing drugs like alcohol and some people are close enough to the grey area that if everyone else is already FUCKING the place up, whats one fist-hole in the drywall gunna add? That part also works as a justification method in the mind of most people because "I'm not nearly doing the most amount of damage" is negating the damage done at all. And there is typically 1 guy who is taking things much too far, therefor, like 7 people can all have this same thought that 'they're not doing much damage in comparison' and then it all adds up to a lot of property damage. For the record, these are my observations as someone who as a youth was always bored and looking to do B&E's in abandoned places, restaurants etc. And every now and again we would have *someone* with us who just, maybe wasn't from the area and so they just would start fucking shit up and the 2 or 3 of us who had done this already multiple times are kinda like "wtf man". A lot of the time as well these people don't have as strict upbringings as the friends I have with more control. The ones with strict parents who were still down to go "do shit" AKA look for some fun, were already pushing their limits with a B&E.... They, as I, weren't interested in anyone even knowing we were there, and *getting in* was the enjoyment we got as was looking around. I even recall a fake $5 bill posted on a cork board and we didn't take it because as I remember saying: "What, you want em to know someone was in here? It's a fake $5 anyway, what are we, the shittiest thieves ever?" lol But growing up in the country with shit-ass internet and Antenna TV for most of my years was boring, so we biked around a lot and just *looked* for shit to do. Now, people who are in their late-teens/ adult phases who do shit like that, just never had the parental upbringing to understand the consequences of their actions and how they compound over time in peoples opinions of you, and legally as you catch cases. I don't know the answer but I highly suspect that a part of the problem is the before-mentioned lack of parental guidance, and strictness. Coupled with drug/alcohol abuse and a group of "friends" with the same afflictions, therefor propagating further situations where things like this can arise. Not to mention the financial drain which will keep them in whatever cash-cycle they find themselves in without discovering ways to increase their income. I dunno, guess im just thinkin' aloud here.... Babblin' on again like Babylon. Thanks for listening if you read this, I appreciate chu. Wishing the best for yall and im pullin for ya! So keep your stick on the ice: were all in this together! :D
@R.O.T.C._SEEM3 жыл бұрын
It's called no respect.
@poppetx3 жыл бұрын
shitty parenting
@botchedoperations34853 жыл бұрын
The same thing I say when I see graffiti on the walls😑😑.
@ZombieSazza2 жыл бұрын
Michael did fantastic, he kept calm, calling authorities, dealing with this sensitively, making sure nobody knew so nobody would panic, and somehow kept it all together. I’ve no doubt this broke his heart as he knew Tyler’s parents really well as he’d grown up with Tyler, and still kept it all together. I’m amazed and have massive respect, this would’ve been extremely difficult for Michael and he did fantastic.
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
Michael was a JUDAS... He worked for the CIA!!! 😡
@ricvondutch57152 жыл бұрын
i saw on reddit he took his life recently
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
@@ricvondutch5715 Yeargh, and I saw Robin Hood stealin' BEEF at Safeway the other day too... It was COVER UP!!!
@maryjocassell482 жыл бұрын
@@ricvondutch5715 ☮️💜
@gkagara Жыл бұрын
But he finally had it
@Shizelfizel12343 жыл бұрын
Tyler: “No stop, you can’t go in there” Cops: “Well shit, I guess he got us. Uncuff him we can’t go in there”
@DyslexicMitochondria3 жыл бұрын
big brain move
@epicstuff75223 жыл бұрын
@@DyslexicMitochondria omg hi bro i love ur videos. Didnt expect to see you here
@hr4733 жыл бұрын
@@epicstuff7522 thank u for recommendation~ U just gifted yer youtuber a new subscriber
@AllezlesParisiens3 жыл бұрын
Cops: understandable have a nice day
@eradict3 жыл бұрын
*Cops and Tyler awkwardly stared at each other for a moment, before the cops turned again to open the door* Tyler: Worth a shot.
@rdfjfgjyfdhfghy674562 жыл бұрын
This case was nothing I expected. Quiet suburbia, looks like a happy family, but medicating a child at that age... and Michael asking for that last photo, this was just so tragic.
@wyomountainhippie3 жыл бұрын
I’m a mental health professional, and I wonder if another part of what happened to Tyler was related to attachment disorder. One consequence of being in an incubator as an infant is that he did not have a normal amount of physical contact with his parents. The common result is a disregulation in the most primitive part of a humans’ brain. This results in difficulties developing a normal attachment with parents. If his mother was also dealing with postpartum depression, that would have exacerbated the attachment difficulties. It might be that his early depression was actually an attachment disorder, adding medication to an under developed brain may have just made the whole situation worse. Just a few thoughts.
@flimflam87363 жыл бұрын
This was a super interesting read. Thank you for taking the time to share! It's crazy how a misdiagnosis can upturn a patient's and their family's lives.
@elsiemartin93023 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@CoffeehouseCrime3 жыл бұрын
That was interesting to read, thank you for taking the time!
@sovereignstate67603 жыл бұрын
Yes, likely highly exacerbated by her immediate remedies to his issues always being of artificial nature.
@TheThora173 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@toukie3 жыл бұрын
I love how Anti-depression medication has the side effect of increasing the risk of suicide. It happened to me. Never been suicidal even though I battle depression. We tried a new medication and within weeks I called my doctor because I had started to have suicidal thoughts and wanted to literally jump off of my third floor balcony.
@v3rm1nslayer133 жыл бұрын
I really believed that antidepressants just make your depression worse. Edit: For those who have provided me with accurate information about antidepressants, I would like to thank you. Your replies made me change my perspective about antidepressants. You guys are right, antidepressants does work in general but not with everyone. I do not know the pain of people who deals with this stuff. Neither do I know anyone in person who takes antidepressants which makes this claim so half-assed. I apologize for saying this with a lack of knowledge and I promise that I will take the lesson you all have provided me at heart.
@LauraVee633 жыл бұрын
In 2010, a friend of mine's husband began taking Lexapro in spite of having prior suicidal thoughts. Two weeks later, he hung himself in the closet.
@toukie3 жыл бұрын
@@LauraVee63 I'm sorry to hear that
@toukie3 жыл бұрын
@@v3rm1nslayer13 You're not wrong. To be honest, it never worked for me so I stopped taking them
@dreamc82953 жыл бұрын
@@v3rm1nslayer13 antidepressants has helped me a lot. they don’t necessarily make you worse, but there’s a lot out there that doesn’t work for everyone and instead give you bad side effects. for some it works, for others it’s completely wrong.
@claudedossantos33023 жыл бұрын
The mom: "Hm. My son is possibly being bullied and he is chubby. Lets give him hormone growth injections" Nice one.
@vladvladimirov43993 жыл бұрын
She was an absolute moron of the highest degree. She pumped her son up with every med in the book.
@saturnna4673 жыл бұрын
@Robin Latte I don’t know about that one chief...
@twxx460_3 жыл бұрын
Growth hormone is typically given at a young age. It’s the antipsychotics that kill me
@jonash34063 жыл бұрын
It's not any one thing really, but the combination of the colossal drug cocktail he was on. Plus the fact that if he was on that combination of drugs and it was deemed medically necessary, he should have been observed a lot closer, for his own sake.
@jossykerflossy9153 жыл бұрын
@@vladvladimirov4399 that is a disgusting thing to say. She wasn’t a doctor. She took her son for help. That is what a medical professional thought would help. You act like she was buying the drugs off the street. We don’t know how he was at home, like the whole story.
@wizard_bunny2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people like me have horrifying childhoods, are force fed tons of prescription drugs, turn to escape with recreational drugs and still don't turn into murderers. I don't think it's any sort of acceptable defence that a person had a terrible life, that doesn't make me feel sorry for them.
@abixiexie7822 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a weird way to look at things -- we're nothing more than a sum of our biology and experiences. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it couldn't happen to someone else. We also don't know the entire sum of that persons' experience and what actually lead them down that path initially, or what role models they might have had that influenced them negatively/positively. And ultimately, it's not about feeling sorry for them or not. It is about whether those things being fixed could lead to less of this sort of thing happening.
@lindasmith4435 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It just seems that something happens that breaks these people. No idea what that could be, but they seem to just sink into a breaking point. Perhaps it is a mental illness, that surfaces under extreme stress
@stungstung2424 Жыл бұрын
It is context. Everyone deals differently.
@teresajennings1243 Жыл бұрын
Many of us had terrible childhoods, and we don't kill people. Don't think that is a valid defense. We all make choices.
@i_observe9846 Жыл бұрын
@@abixiexie7822 Well said
@unpopular46963 жыл бұрын
I actually used to grow up with Tyler. He was a bit older than me, but he'd occasionally stop by my house when he'd walk around the block with his friends and he always seemed like a cool, chill guy. Then I moved and just so happened to meet my kindergarten teacher and she told me what happened. Just goes to show you never really know what the people around you are capable of.
@matthijsvanbeest50933 жыл бұрын
@redflame shut up
@traveljournal99283 жыл бұрын
@redflame because nothing happens in PSL
@unpopular46963 жыл бұрын
@redflame Well first off I never said I hung out with him, just that he stopped by, like said hey to me and my parents, usually when I was out playing basketball at my place. And I was like 8 to 11 when I'd see him walk by and at that age I barely grasped the concept of drugs or even knew what someone on drugs looked like as cigarettes where the worst thing I knew about second hand back then. I didn't grow up knowing about stuff like that until I moved out of Florida when I was 12
@unpopular46963 жыл бұрын
@redflame It's hard to discern whether you're ignorant or just trolling but I feel like I laid it out pretty plainly, but I guess I'll dumb it down a couple more notches. I did not know he was on drugs. And when I said "stop by my house" I did not mean actually entering my house. I mean he talked with me outside while I was outside of my house, which could have easily been inferred by the "when he'd walk around the block" part. Again, it's almost comical how simple to understand my comment was, so it's hard to tell whether or not your comment is any more than a troll, but if it wasn't, there's the simplified version.
@godemperorofmankind10463 жыл бұрын
@redflame because he's obviously lying
@InTheMindOfDavid3 жыл бұрын
This is like a PSA for why you don’t give children hormones and SSRIs meant for adults. A child’s brain chemistry is EXTREMELY sensitive. All these medications his mother had his Doctors prescribe Tyler to “help” him probably- rather very likely, was the biggest contributing factor for what ended up happening. His mother and doctors acted in a very unethical manner in regards to Tyler’s mental and physical well-being.
@N..P..3 жыл бұрын
The laughable thing about medication is it's handed out based on whatever the parents say most of the time. Doctor's "agreeing" is pretty much just going along with what the parents tell them. My mom had me put on so much shit as a kid, purely on her word without any tests or anything of the sort.
@qamzatmedvedov3 жыл бұрын
Concerts makes you either a zombie of a human or fucks your emotional balance so bad I was irritable moody secluded and it made my depression worse its a trash medication
@haleyw56773 жыл бұрын
it isn't though since the hormones he got were very medically necessary since his thyroid gland wasn't producing enough, and the SSRI he was prescribed was prescribed at 15 when it is approved for age 8 and up. The FDA does super rigorous testing and does not approve things for ages that it is unsafe for. 16 is when most medications that are approved for adults are understood to be safe for since their body chemistry is pretty much the same as an 18 year old's by then, so getting prescribed prozac at 15 really wasn't an issue unless it gave him manic episodes. also as i said above the hormones were simply an external source of the hormones that he would normally be getting from his thyroid. Without it he could have even gotten myxedema and gone into a coma or died.
@mariannetaylor42933 жыл бұрын
In America they might prescribe shit like that to kids but it's been proven that it's not actually safe for children. There's something wrong with people who justify Prozac being given to children
@cidfacetious37223 жыл бұрын
The average family doctor is nothing more then an educated drug dealer for the pharmaceuticals. And ssri should not be given to anybody
@frankyandme211 ай бұрын
I love that you always pay tribute to the victims at the end. I follow your site, regularly.
@Danny___Riot3 жыл бұрын
I was actually on that entire list of drugs at one point. I couldn’t stand it, it felt weird it felt like I wasn’t me or something. I’m not sticking up for the kid but I can’t imagine what being on that cocktail did to his brain during the developmental stages of his youth. None of this had to happen.
@eeccee11 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts EXACTLY 😢
@Phoenix-p8k4z9 ай бұрын
Yess!
@jessespad2 жыл бұрын
3 hits of Ecstasy and he killed his family?! Wow, they sure don't make them like they use to.
@ARNOLDBme2 жыл бұрын
It was probably because of all the other drugs. The ecstasy was why he told his friend that he thought he could trust
@barbarahenninger66423 жыл бұрын
Tyler looks physically strange and I'm wondering if the growth hormones caused some of that. He was filled with different kinds of strong drugs and alcohol. What could possibly go wrong?
@elijahryan46903 жыл бұрын
He does look odd. Possible early acromegaly.
@elijahryan46903 жыл бұрын
@redflame I meant the brow area
@josa31273 жыл бұрын
@@elijahryan4690 Looking at the latter pictures of the trial, you can see that his face actually shapes back to a normal look. This is likely because he was off the GHG by then.
@gladtownghost3 жыл бұрын
Hgh changes ones skull loads I can't believe they were putting him on that shit so young
@sandiasurfers31743 жыл бұрын
2:10 this kid was born in 1933? Crazy they had color photographs back then 😂 Really enjoying the channel though small error or not
@Bmanwells3 жыл бұрын
lol yeah , did a double take on that one
@CoffeehouseCrime3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's time I stop adding these small quips to my videos... Too many of you pick up on it now!
@tryingnot2comment2943 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeehouseCrime It's a compliment really... we are listening to you VERY closely! :)
@bobbygrey67223 жыл бұрын
Adrián, all is forgiven, mate. Your presentation and diction are impeccable and I adore your plaid shirts. Cheers from Ireland. ☘
@sec654sda3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeehouseCrime haha good old British humour! you say it with such confidence too!
@darkphoenix18363 жыл бұрын
"Side effects include suicidal thoughts, depression, anxiety, rash, breathing complications, hallucinations, paranoia, and a high risk of death." Parents: "Okay, let's give him 10 more of these types of pills."
@jakelawliet35843 жыл бұрын
lmao ikr
@re31713 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think his parents are to blame for their own deaths.
@kasvo11993 жыл бұрын
he took revenge for fucking him up . he didnt need none of that .
@southwestxnorthwest3 жыл бұрын
My parents were just like his parents when I was a kid, virtually every medication available was prescribed by any willing doctor they could find. Fortunately I grew out of that rebellious stage and never killed anyone. I joined the army and did my time honorably but have never been close to my parents.
@btmilner2 жыл бұрын
But did you kill people when you were in the army?
@aweigh10102 жыл бұрын
@Dee Santer Why are you so full of hate, Dee?
@aweigh10102 жыл бұрын
@@btmilner Why are you so full of hate, Brian?
@lindasmith4435 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we all grew up in an era when children were medicated for anything. Plus the medication was oversubscribed and sometimes not necessary.
@ricky73962 жыл бұрын
Premature babies scare me now. Seen a good few of these where they go on to be very troubled.
@Cordula62 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@BOOGIE23er3 жыл бұрын
Very disturbing story. This is a horror movie, and now I’m creeped out.
@Lulu-ut9pv3 жыл бұрын
I cant image the fear, dread and pain his parents would have suffered, I cant understand how kids who get given everything in their lap on a silver plate and "have a happy childhood" still become "depressed" and pull a sick and disgusting act yet I known many people who are been abused, violated and had terrible life and some are depressed and some are on drugs but none has thought they will kill someone.... Shows how detached and spoiled he was
@igvc18762 жыл бұрын
yes you "can't understand" it, yet you make a conclusion - very weird. You can't understand it and you won't understand it because you are not him. It's just biology. There is no such thing as free will and from the day you are born to the day you die, you are a playing out the cards you were dealt at birth. Be grateful to random chance you can't "understand" the suffering he went through.
@Lulu-ut9pv2 жыл бұрын
@@igvc1876 I didn't have a great childhood but I didn't decide to do a series of crimes, your right I don't want to understand this loser who agaan was born with a silver spoon You almost spund like you approve of his actions, do not defend someone like this
@sam5miy2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately in our society medication is preferred over treatment/therapy because it saves time so the doctor can treat more people. The doctors commonly don't follow up on how the patient is feeling on the medication and probably only added more drugs because of the parents' reports. I'm sure his parents trusted the doctor and wanted to do what was best for their son. Unfortunately we need to trust doctors less and advocate for ourselves more
@xxivletxx2 жыл бұрын
I used to take Lexapro when I was younger to try and fight off my depression (I was 14). It just made it worse. A part of me wants to feel bad for Tyler but murderers cannot be forgiven
@ACE536213 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, what a cocktail of drugs!!! That poor kid doubtlessly went nuts from all that shit, aside from his original problems!
@babyd92373 жыл бұрын
How was he prescribed all those strong medications for such a young person
@Bubba__Sawyer3 жыл бұрын
Because patients being treated for antidepressants are merely test subjects. It's really the only medication widely prescribed where the results are entirely unpredictable. They don't know if it will have a positive effect or a negative effect. They don't know how long it will take to start working, and what dose will be effective. It's a whole bunch of trial and error, and often the results can be disastrous.
@socalsp33 жыл бұрын
maybe he was insane?
@charlesedwinbooks2 жыл бұрын
Could the drugs have been a problem? Maybe. America is a country that treats mental health with drugs and almost nothing else. It isn't taken seriously, despite some people shouting they do, and it still has a huge stigma, despite how many people come out trying to normalize it. There is so much left to be done regarding mental health, depression, and more.
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
YE$$$$$$... All in the name of I$RAEL!!! >: D
@crabmansteve68442 жыл бұрын
This boy's serotonin receptors were tampered with from a young age, and this is what happens. Young children going on medication like this should be an absolute last resort, not just a regular part of treatment. These kinds of medications can permanently change your brain chemistry even AFTER you're done developing, what it can do to a developing brain is crazy.
@kcsinclair44942 жыл бұрын
You have such a dignified style! Your voice is Amazing 😍 Please keep making these! Such a eerie claim in the end "I'll be Right Here behind this camera waiting for you". Absolutely Love you 💞
@jaimemv60913 жыл бұрын
The brain responds to chemicals differently, such as me and the case of not being able to smoke 99.99% of weed strands because it makes me feel anxious versus feeling good n chill, as it used to feel like in the beginning. My reaction to a drug changed over time, as much as the drug itself changed through time
@leanansidhe39543 жыл бұрын
The same happened to me at about 19. It makes me feel like I'm going to panic.
@jaimemv60913 жыл бұрын
@@leanansidhe3954 exactly! Thats what i feel now versus when weed was not legal
@jaimemv60913 жыл бұрын
@@DaveReithmiller1983 i am very glad you are in a better state, mentally and physically. God bless
@jahnj25233 жыл бұрын
@@DaveReithmiller1983 God bless
@Anndrayton2 жыл бұрын
thank you! What camera did you use to record yourself while talking?
@obanjespirit28953 жыл бұрын
The lesson here is stop giving your children bowl haircuts. His mum should have been arrested for that. How was he supposed to survive high-school?
@Idkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkee3 жыл бұрын
Not sure which of mom's mistakes were the worse, the bowl cut or encouraging the growth hormones (steroids). Completely stupid, giving an already troubled boy with behavior issues something that'll turn him into a Hulk.
@LittleSaint4252 жыл бұрын
Murderer always make excuse of drugs or other things that cause it. I have no sympathy for Tyler. He had a good life compare to most people. He had two loving parent, sibling, and friends. Unlike some people who wish they did. I'm just glad he is caught and being put away.
@carolinabraidybird19293 жыл бұрын
“Partying with strangers he didn’t know” Erm, if he knew them they wouldn’t be strangers...
@CoffeehouseCrime3 жыл бұрын
Carolina please show me mercy 😢
@eradict3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeehouseCrime lmao
@michaeltsang5483 жыл бұрын
Lol
@damienkarney22513 жыл бұрын
Good point
@carolinabraidybird19293 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeehouseCrime I’m sorry. I enjoyed the video so thanks for posting it 😊
@bigmike85642 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks bro
@lorenarivas54852 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s crazy, I lived in Port Saint Lucie that’s scary 😟 He did take to much medicine specially in his teen yrs maybe 🤔 it was too much
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
He was just a PUNK-ASS BITCH... He wasn't goin' NOWHERE even if he hadn't killed anyone!
@MrJason91420022 жыл бұрын
I think the drugs played a major role in what he did. Depression doesn’t make you murder but that combination couldn’t have helped a growing boy developing mentally and physically. People underestimate the devastation of mental illness. And doctors do not put enough effort into consulting patients about side effects. I don’t know if it made him kill his parents but suicidal ideations and homicidal ideations ARE common side effects when altering neurotransmitters. Poor parents and his brother must still face that trauma. Good job Adrian! This was an interesting case!
@dna_6663 жыл бұрын
I really can’t believe the parents found a doctor willing to give him such a toxic cocktail at such a young age
@kaylasoappp3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was very difficult, at least not at that point in time... I'm only a year older than him, and I was prescribed similar medications when I was just 9 years old (back in 2002) by the first doctor my parents took me to. It definitely f*cked me up in irreversible ways but THANK GOD I'm now working towards bettering my life (and would never even consider harming another living creature, let alone murdering someone 😰)
@darlenegriffith61863 жыл бұрын
Tyler is where he belongs - in jail without the possibility of parole.
@chevgage62102 жыл бұрын
Also misprescribed citalopram can make this shit so much worse, as someone who was misprescribed citalopram. I am convinced that had a massive role in this.
@KD-mx1qt3 жыл бұрын
"His friends never took him seriously and laughed off his apparent jokes" Tyler: Imma kill my parents and have a party with their bodies still in the house! Tyler's friends: haha classic tyler
@candypietravels3 жыл бұрын
Tragic
@VTPfirewolf19943 жыл бұрын
This 14 year old boy from my hometown just murdered his 13 year old friend. He stabbed her about 100 times. His friends told reporters that he talked about stabbing this girl for weeks before he did it and they just thought he was joking.
@mknight9933 жыл бұрын
@@VTPfirewolf1994 I heard of this . So terrible . And ppl love picking at me bc I’m well away of threat and weirdness (I can spot somebody a lil off a mile away) in very aware of things. I wish ppl would just out folks who say Scary crazy things before the worst happens. I’m very sorry to that poor girls family smh 13 years old
@nagsterthegangster35483 жыл бұрын
@@mknight993 It's almost a subconscious cry for help in my opinion. Like they WANT someone to stop them before they do it and when they make it as obvious as possible and get ignored.... They likely feel there's only one option left if they feel enough shame to "not want to make themselves a liar". But these people are often sociopaths who rationalize the worst behavior and have no problem telling lies that suit their prerogative. So two sides to every coin I guess. The real mental health stigma is that people with REAL mental health issues who go commit violent crimes are all but washed from existence because the rhetoric is to "not say their name"... So we never learn what causes this shit and we seem to continue the cycle over and over again and still wonder why. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for listening. :D
@adrianaboga83613 жыл бұрын
It reminds me the case of Trystin's murder, how her murderer had told people he was going to kill someone. Nobody should take that, as a joke. It is not and that should be reported to authorities.
@adamwhittingham863 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this was just a coffee shop and all you wanted to do was order a Mocha and this guy just tells you gruesome murder stories before you can order anything 😂.
@wonkydonkey83493 жыл бұрын
lmaooo i would love that place
@nyxen87123 жыл бұрын
I don't even drink coffee but I'd totally go there just for that 🤣
@Klissaura3 жыл бұрын
lol
@e4unow4213 жыл бұрын
Well it's better than listening about scammers (maybe).
@Wistful773 жыл бұрын
I imagined it, and I laughed. But me, I'd just sit and listen.
@Blondievalentine2 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to the friend who called the police on Tyler. Michael took his own life this past July.
@aweigh10102 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, that's so sad.
@User-tw4mc Жыл бұрын
Oh no, that’s so sad 😢
@karabomothupi9759 Жыл бұрын
Source?
@cupid2963 Жыл бұрын
Source please!?! I can't find anything online about him committing suicide
@mitchellstephens08 Жыл бұрын
Source ? Would be very interesting topper to the story please
@chandracox68143 жыл бұрын
How does he manage to look like an entirely different person in every picture?!
@gjjgb3 жыл бұрын
Haha, that's very true 😊
@joaquimrodriguez89613 жыл бұрын
appearance's change as the years go by
@Akkhinus3 жыл бұрын
The meds and HGH change the metabolism. Thas probably why
@1129buttons3 жыл бұрын
prescription drugs+puberty+steroids+most liklely stopping some and adding new ones in prison
@Raumplestomp3 жыл бұрын
All white people look like somebody else
@andyvelasquez94883 жыл бұрын
"House Party Killer" with a name like that I was thinking he murdered everyone at the party!
@AnCapCat3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking he threw a killer house party...im an optimistic person
@HG-ey6gu3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what i thought.
@domkennedy29903 жыл бұрын
I assumed he’s the one who killed the house party. Cynic here
@jaquandrejones3 жыл бұрын
I thought he would at least kill SOMEONE at the party itself
@taymonecaldwell-motley74103 жыл бұрын
the “Parent killer party”🤣🤣🤣
@artsyhyd3 жыл бұрын
His friend Michael had so much courage to see what he saw and luckily he wasn’t murdered too 😰
@chvIry3 жыл бұрын
I see it similar to "The Joker" movie when Arthur killed the big dude and left his midget friend to leave after pulling a "funny" scare and kissing him on the forehead when unlocking the door. But i hear ya. Thats why I respect everybody
@user52143 жыл бұрын
@@chvIry just as everyone has a dark side, everyone has bright side that can enhance our worlds.
@pissass.86753 жыл бұрын
@@user5214 we live in a society
@ericgrabowski38963 жыл бұрын
Looked like he had been up for days! One night. Must have been so surreal and nerve racking.
@Iiamli0073 жыл бұрын
Thanks to him who called the police too.
@skay11952 жыл бұрын
Im from fort pierce florida and i went to school with this kid. And i must say, you always hear "he was so normal" on interviews but NO.... This guy has ALWAYS been a little off. That kid that noone has a problem with, but they have a problem with everyone else. Rest easy to his parents
@tokhote Жыл бұрын
He was probably a sociopath misdiagnosed as depressed
@jaybarbieri8619 Жыл бұрын
Ayyye 772 represent
@lucas45873 жыл бұрын
"Killer party, man!" "You don't know the half of it"
@Iman-ve3il3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Tia-uf5gu3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 💀
@michaeltsang5483 жыл бұрын
😂
@Gizziiusa3 жыл бұрын
Stop !!!! Hammer Time.
@Gizziiusa3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Mugabe Death happens...thats life.
@julecaesara4823 жыл бұрын
"He was depressed, bulimic, bullied, had ADHD and took 4 different meds, one of which was suggested by his mother to make the bullying stop, but otherwise his childhood was normal and happy :)" ehhr....
@nicoleraheem11953 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂Riiiiiight!!!!
@artslife38763 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Wtf? I'm a parent 25 years now, and there's no way I'd have done what his parents did, no matter what. Lethally dangerous attitude towards a young life. I'm not saying it's okay that he turned out in the way that he did, but I mean, just how much control did he have after all of that junk in his system?
@coffinmannequin3 жыл бұрын
Eh.......
@Tommy88-3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a very unhappy upbringing to me.
@saigie39083 жыл бұрын
LOLL ‘when life gives u lemons’ was a person
@Jason-ml2px2 жыл бұрын
Tyler sat next to me in art class at Centennial High school the year he was arrested. His mom was my teacher in elementary school. Super weird hearing this story years later from an outsider perspective.
@nsanton7 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way! I was their neighbor. I lived on the street directly behind them. As a child I didn’t get along with Ryan so much but Blake and Mary Jo were good people. It shocked our family to our core. It feels strange listening to Adrain describe Port St Lucie lol is it true that Michael the friend that called crime stoppers, committed suicide?
@jaybarbieri8619 Жыл бұрын
Mrs. Hadley was so sweet dude. She was my secondary teacher at Village Green for RTI (if you even remember that lol) and I’d stay after school sometimes when my parents were both busy. Tyler would show up around there and I always got along with him alright. Shit was fucking crazy when I found out what really happened
@Jason-ml2px Жыл бұрын
@@jaybarbieri8619 No way, small world! She seriously was incredibly nice.
@jaybarbieri8619 Жыл бұрын
@@Jason-ml2px Yeah she was. Also hello fellow Cent 10 alumni! I went there for a few weeks before being transferred to LPA
@YeshuaDisciple916 Жыл бұрын
@@nsanton7 Can you, or anyone else on this thread, confirm if his friend Michael died by suicide? That's what everyone in the comments are saying, yet I've seen no proof, nor this news being reported on any news source.
@miawallace23063 жыл бұрын
“Why Tyler!???!” “Why the f*ck not?” The father must have been in literal frozen shock because the police report shows very little in terms of defensive wounds.
@Maximus2133 жыл бұрын
But how would we know that part...? Tyler said it?
@messrsandersonco59853 жыл бұрын
@@Maximus213 Did you read the part following 'because'? Perhaps you ought to pick up a book instead of spending so much time on video games which teach you nothing!
@Maximus2133 жыл бұрын
@@messrsandersonco5985 Compared to listening to murders via youtube...? Nice logic, bud.
@Zarathustr3 жыл бұрын
@@messrsandersonco5985 And this is productive how?
@rynoX883 жыл бұрын
@@Maximus213 true. But seems Tyler wasnt really lying. Everything else he said has been accurate, so assuming that part was too.
@chrisfrisc27753 жыл бұрын
"The water in Tyler's teapot was now surely heating up". -Adrian
@vietec3 жыл бұрын
PEAK BRIT ESTABLISHED
@torachan233 жыл бұрын
@@taiyoctopus2958 your entire existence is cringe
@sovereignstate67603 жыл бұрын
British moment
@mikaelafox61063 жыл бұрын
I laughed too much given the subject matter.
@villegas243 жыл бұрын
This is more British than the queen
@empressmarowynn3 жыл бұрын
I used to date a guy whose parents put him on anti-anxiety meds at only 8 years old. He never went to therapy for it, just medication pretty much his whole life. Because it suppressed his emotional response so much he would sometimes have panic attacks any time he or anyone around him felt a strong emotion. Like if I was ever upset about something and just wanted a simple hug he would break down and not be able to function, or he would hyperventilate if he felt really happy because it was too overwhelming. I tried to convince him to go to therapy but he refused until after we broke up. Like a year later he told me I was right and he was doing a whole lot better. Medication can't make mental illness just go away, you need therapy in conjunction with it.
@mrenteryourname74093 жыл бұрын
Also you need to WANT.
@empressmarowynn3 жыл бұрын
@@mrenteryourname7409 Yep, can't help someone who doesn't want it.
@lowrider81hd3 жыл бұрын
Terrible. Sorry you had to experience that. He was a prisoner of his own mind and probably made into that by having been put on these horrible drugs do young.
@Sfekke3 жыл бұрын
This.. there's no shame in therapy. If you're taking medication for it at some point you might even be able to take smaller dozes or completely stop. Previous woman I dated had issues (won't go into detail, I still respect her) but couldn't deal with any emotions coming her way. Therapy didn't work for her or at least the one therapist she tried, I tried to help her .. to find people who'd listen to her & listen when I could myself. But there's a reason that doesn't last, in a relationship you can't fully take that role; especially when dealing with your own emotional baggage. Still feel bad about breaking things off, I know it sent her way down again and I felt like she was slowly getting better but at the cost of my mental health. The moment I need to see my therapist once a week to vent, cry & let it out is when I know things need to change.
@kayladrn033 жыл бұрын
I used to take medication for behavioral or "anger" issues since i was 10 and never went to therapy or anything like that. When i turned 17 I attempted to stop and i felt like my whole life was flipped upside down. because the medication acted as a sort of suppressor for my emotions i never felt the full extent to being excited, happy, giggly, but also never felt the full extent of anger, depression, anxiety, etc. So the first week felt weird for me but after that brief transition period every emotion i could ever feel hit me so hard I had no idea what was happening. I would get severe panic attacks because of how I was feeling. My social anxiety soared through the roof. My depression got to the point of bodily shut down. My anger became a hugeeeee problem. I didn't know how to deal with it all and because it made me feel not normal my depression and anger really became the worst it had ever been. I got introuble for fighting at school multiple times a week and outside of school and I would disrespect everyone I came across. But things eventually got better. I started therapy after three months of being medication free and I've learned alot. Im currently 18 and have been in no trouble or anything like that for 7 full months. Because im getting therapy for the negative emotions its helping me learn how to naturally balance those heavy negatives with the heavy positives. the very positive emotions that i feel when i can make someone feel better is overwhelming but great. It makes me feel very normal and loved.
@ASecretLynn2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Port Saint Lucie. Was a Sophmore in HS when this happened. I had friends who knew who Tyler was. I knew at least 1 person who was their at that party. I still find all of that chilling today.
@liltoker19962 ай бұрын
How was the party? Was it lit?
@c.w.simpsonproductions12303 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, throwing a party at a crime scene is actually pretty clever on the killer’s part. It turns the place into a smorgasbord of DNA. He's basically getting everyone to contaminate and destroy the crime scene for him.
@tiffanybalcazar65313 жыл бұрын
That’s what i was thinking. Not sure why he told anyone tho😭
@CFbastar3 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanybalcazar6531 I think some part of him wanted to be caught
@Ichneumonxx3 жыл бұрын
It would be, if it weren't for the fact that his murdered parents were lying right there covered in his fingerprints and DNA.
@Al-Ghaibb3 жыл бұрын
@@CFbastar Yeah, it was most likely the part of his brain that did not rot from that melting pot of drugs that he was too pumped with as a child. I’m not condoning his actions of murder, but the poor guy didn’t stand a chance when his parents decided to pump him with drugs starting as a child.
@R.O.T.C._SEEM3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really work if you the only one who claims your parents are in another state while their cars are in the driveway. I mean it would have worked if he killed someone else and nobody knew he threw the party but the fact that he threw a party and his parents are literally in the next room dead is kinda a giveaway
@frankboff12603 жыл бұрын
This kid had more wrong with him than just depression. The cocktail of meds clearly didn’t help either.
@hangingfuchsias64393 жыл бұрын
Looking at pictures of him I got some big douchebag vibes.
@GrandMasterPeep3 жыл бұрын
I’m on all the same meds
@GrandMasterPeep3 жыл бұрын
Except the growth hormones or whatever
@Kazza_82403 жыл бұрын
@@GrandMasterPeep me too, I'm currently on hydroxyzine, and I used to take citalopram. I feel ok, mostly, and I start to think I don't need them, I'm fine, but if I run out, I feel a definite change in my mood, I'm scared to stop taking them now 🙄
@GrandMasterPeep3 жыл бұрын
@@Kazza_8240 I definitely can feel when I didn’t take it I can skip maybe a day. I still have a lot of anxiety so I’d like to talk to my doctor about upping my dose or getting something else. I really don’t like all the comments about how medication is a bad thing because this kid murdered his parents and just so happened to be on medications.
@shawnadams19653 жыл бұрын
They pumped my cousin full of drugs to make him "healthy" he ended up killing himself. This story hits hard.
@alanis05333 жыл бұрын
That's awful, I'm sorry for your loss.
@earthredalert3 жыл бұрын
Same with my uncle. It was almost like he was experimented on. By 30 he'd left us.
@Areekurou3 жыл бұрын
Same happened to my dad’s cousin. Wonderful guy but was put on a ton of medication as he got older for minor health issues. Well, they mixed badly in his system and he ended up becoming extremely depressed and suicidal. Killed himself only a few months of being on the new medication.
@justdream86483 жыл бұрын
Absolutely horrible to hear. Sorry for your losses guys. You have my condolences.
@gigglesinside3 жыл бұрын
@TheMrCaptainStfu Yeah you already said that on other comment you geek.
@maryjocassell482 жыл бұрын
My next door neighbors had twins, and one of them developed concerning depression. The Dr actually told them that they could try Medication, or possibly try getting the child a Dog. The dog helped amazingly, they opted to even get a second dog.☮️💜If Tyler was also bulimic, this may have screwed with his Meds too.
@MyPeePnAss2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that too. I can only imagine how much medication or substance was thrown up soon after ingesting?
@figfire3 жыл бұрын
What a horrific death for his parents! His brother lost him, and his parents! Very sad! Side note, you’re a great story teller! Thanks for making this vid!
@nicka.90573 жыл бұрын
@@dootdoot94xo44 Calm down there old man
@MR3DDev3 жыл бұрын
People think putting a child on medication is just an easy fix. It can have terrible consequences.
@tonymoretti23473 жыл бұрын
I agree
@jackrockwell66983 жыл бұрын
There are definitely kids who benefit from medication, but according to a psychologist I’m friends with, we absolutely overmedicate children in the United States.
@f.m64953 жыл бұрын
Pharmaceutical companies are making an absolute fortune though, so it won’t change. They have so much influence- around 1/3 of the websites dedicated to ADHD for example are owned by these pharmaceutical companies. And this has led to around 3/4 of the Children diagnosed with ADHD to receive medication, which perpetuates their need for medication down the line, thus ensuring their business in the future.
@themoongateofficial3 жыл бұрын
Weed is literally so much safer than a lot of opioids docs put kids on, it’s criminal that they’ll put these kids on all these opioids yet the good green shit that don’t hurt them is criminalized
@taiyoctopus29583 жыл бұрын
Sure is profitable tho.
@i-vlog19943 жыл бұрын
Who else found coffeehouse crime one day and binge watched all his content and now desperately await new releases every week?
@-redacted_by_youtube3 жыл бұрын
Did the same thing with that chapter
@anduni3 жыл бұрын
✌ guilty
@loganquiton85793 жыл бұрын
@@-redacted_by_youtube I did the same with both lol
@RobertProductionsX3 жыл бұрын
same. watched all vids in 1 day "D
@i-vlog19943 жыл бұрын
I started with That chapter, MrBallen, now it’s CoffeHouse Crime. So I have a decent series of crime videos to watch every week.
@maredithevans25952 жыл бұрын
Reading so many blaming the mom, doctor, and prescriptions is troubling. Many people take rxs and don’t murder. I think the mom saw her son struggling and troubled and thought she was helping him. It didn’t seem to work, but I can’t blame her for trying or blame anyone but this guy for his actions. If he hadn’t been prescribed anything and had still hurt someone, some people would be saying he should’ve been helped and would still find a way to blame the parents.
@thegreatazal50212 жыл бұрын
That quantity, frequently, and potency of the medication they had him on melted his fucking brain. Your brains aren’t finished developing until you’re about 25 he was put on those drugs when he was 10. Ultimately it’s his choice to kill them so he’s to blame but not solely him, the doctor who did this should be stripped of his license and it was her choice to give him these chemicals… and ANABOLIC STEROIDS, it’s clear she’d rather let the drugs patent him and this is the result.
@sharronbrennon8992 жыл бұрын
Usually those people that take RXS take them after their brain 🧠 has fully developed when they are in their late teens or older. And not when they’re 10 years of age and their brain is still developing. There are plenty of other options for a 10 year old to deal with his problems that don’t require drugs. Drugs don’t fix or get rid of the problem they only suppress it
@synshenron7982 жыл бұрын
Look, I've been on different medications for depression and ADHD and they do mess with you. Some can be way worse than others but its also up to the individual to recognize that and talk with their doctor about where to go from there. The guy deserves to be in prison, no doubt about it but I also acknowledge those meds could have taken him far out there and his mind was in a whole other place and once he stopped taking it and he sobered up I'm sure things became clearer. He still deserves prison time, I couldn't imagine murdering both your parents and then throwing a house party
@keeprockingit20182 жыл бұрын
Yes many people take prescriptions and don’t murder but you have to remember that everyone is praying for him right! I do think you deserve to be in jail for a very long time but I also do believe that those pills mix with the feeling that may be good then work through were a big reason why is my broke.
@unfound1752 жыл бұрын
@@keeprockingit2018 wtf is that word salad. Are you on "the pills"?
@BuddysDIY3 жыл бұрын
That doctor who threw all those pills at him should be charged as an accessory to murder
@xravenx24fe3 жыл бұрын
@@aloistrancy9204 All of these meds do not have a long history of study for people without proper therapy, especially when combined with other drugs. At what point do you realize that these drugs just treat mental illness symptoms and not the disease itself? How long has to go on before people realize these drugs aren't miracles when kids are drugged up and yet their mental issues clearly don't disappear? I'm not saying they don't help people but they don't cure anything, but when 90% of the time, people with depression are still depressed on and after these drugs, can we really say that they're effective? They have so many side effects, including A GREATER RISK OF SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR, especially in minors. Maybe in controlled situations they can be helpful to adults, but doctors just throw this shit at people who say they are depressed at the drop of a hat in the US because big pharma makes so much cash on them. I'm seriously opposed to just drugging up kids during puberty, I've never heard a single positive story of people taking them, and they often get off of them regardless of whether they're "cured" or not. I'm not saying that the blame of the actions of a human being should be laid entirely on the drugs or the doctor, but you cannot say with any certainty that they "work." Almost anyone that has experienced depression outside of a single, tragic accident has mild depressive tendencies for life, and drugs don't make that go away. They just fuck with peoples brain chemistry, and while that might not end up in tragedy with most people, in the cases of the most disturbed, it obviously has a bad response.
@bec22843 жыл бұрын
What kind of doctor gives a 10 year old antidepressants!? Start there maybe.
@Jacob-xd3ko3 жыл бұрын
@@xravenx24fe I think it’s from improper continuation of care. I started lexapro at 17, switched to Celexa (citalopram) a couple months later, switched back to lexapro due to suicidal thoughts on celexa, and have maintained Lexapro ever since. I also take Bupropion for depression. I also was recently prescribed adderall, but switched to Focalin. I have only used the Focalin once since Ive been prescribed it, but I can tell you that taking a lot of the same meds this guy did, they cannot be blamed. Yes everyone’s brain chemistry is different, so they will react differently. HOWEVER, with a long history of being on these SSRIs and other drugs, I don’t see how any blame can be placed on them. The ecstasy he was getting is a whole different story.
@Jacob-xd3ko3 жыл бұрын
@@bec2284 Kids with severe depression that don’t respond to therapy are often given SSRIs.
@Jacob-xd3ko3 жыл бұрын
@@bec2284 He was prescribed SSRIs, which aren’t nearly as severe as benzos. They’re primarily used for anxiety but can also help with depression.
@Ichneumonxx3 жыл бұрын
So kid is already on strong medication, getting bullied in school and what - no self defense lessons? Sessions with a psychologist? talking to the bullies' parents? Noo, growth hormones, great idea... It's horrible that a kid should battle psychological illness so early, but darn was it badly handled...
@mjk69493 жыл бұрын
Should be teach how to beat the crap out of bullies
@StealURFace3 жыл бұрын
It's easier than parenting for emotionally neglectful parents, unfortunately. Some people shouldn't have kids. 😔
@The-Okami-Project3 жыл бұрын
@@mjk6949 yeah, bullies choose easy targets. No easy targets. Bullying is less likely. Bullies are first and foremost cowards
@LaFonteCheVi3 жыл бұрын
He was born a broken person. No treatment would have helped.
@Ichneumonxx3 жыл бұрын
@@LaFonteCheVi that's not true and that's a very harmful thing to say to people who suffer from chronic psychological issues. He could've been helped, but not with the ridiculous medication mixture his parents were administering to him. The growth hormone surely exacerbated his problems massively.
@cwjalexx Жыл бұрын
I have no idea whether he's actually remorseful or not, but referring to himself as "hammer boy" or other contradictory behavior in prison may not necessarily mean he lacks remorse. In a maximum security prison you can't show vulnerability or weakness or you will not survive so it's possible he was saying those things to make his life easier.
@TheMostBoringGuy Жыл бұрын
He’s actually in a mixed security prison, ranging from minor to medium security. He just wants to glorify his behavior, he was signing autographs with “hammer time” and threw a party after committing parricide because it had “never been done before “. The guy is demented.
@maninthesnow43933 жыл бұрын
The classic american way of “who cares throw more pills at them and pray”
@lawrencelopez98393 жыл бұрын
sadly that's better than "just pray it away"
@johnr7973 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencelopez9839 is it?
@baitzyy3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencelopez9839 no it’s not. My parents force me to take lots of different meds and they make me angry and depressed
@TheHikeChoseMe3 жыл бұрын
@Gods Grace Or Mans Synthetic Manipulation well its what the libs want.. people to have access to all these meds cuz reasons. no one is expected to be responsible for themselves
@cerysllosgau6983 жыл бұрын
Saying “This is what the libs want” like you’re doing here is dishonest. This should not be a partisan issue - mental illness is a problem and there should be as many options as possible to solve it. Instead of blaming this on ‘the libs’, look at who has actually helped to reduce pillpusher policies.
@TheConorsmithusa3 жыл бұрын
Tyler was born December 16th 1933?! He looks good for his age 🤣👍
@Bwalya_3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment
@soniatrani22103 жыл бұрын
Me too🤔
@IshaB983 жыл бұрын
Me too 😵
@iamafairyqueen3 жыл бұрын
I replayed that to make sure I wasn’t crazy
@wytsewolf3 жыл бұрын
@@iamafairyqueen i did the same thing
@Xerdar363 жыл бұрын
Tyler‘s haircut.. that was the biggest warning sign if you ask me….
@deecee5273 жыл бұрын
Why?
@deeskman15493 жыл бұрын
@@deecee527 because it’s obviously a 12 year old commenting who either hasn’t had or doesn’t remember his bad hair phase
@joaquimrodriguez89613 жыл бұрын
What does a hair cut have to do with any thing?
@joshuatendoornkaat85583 жыл бұрын
@@deeskman1549 cant take a joke?
@MattCarvin2 жыл бұрын
How this guy took ecstasy and did anything other than hug his parents and talk their ears off about how soft and beautiful they felt is the true mystery here.
@BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
Does ecstasy have that effect on people?
@MattCarvin Жыл бұрын
@@BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ya, it infamously does the opposite of make you want to murder your parents.
@nawsh2252 Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment similarly. It's so insane to me that someone would have such dark thoughts on ecstasy. He probably had, in a sense, *trained* himself on drugs. This is completely not normal behavior.
@sobiaaa Жыл бұрын
Brain chemistry. His was messed up, so he didn't react how a normal person would on x
@ingahcummings2618 Жыл бұрын
Yep chemistry.
@StreetGrain3 жыл бұрын
Jesus the parents had him on so many pills in hopes of him being "normal". How sad. EDIT: This thread though, lmao. Y'all.
@dexterisawesomerapmusic3 жыл бұрын
I wear a mask with a smile
@HumaneApproach3 жыл бұрын
And that most likely indicates a family not really being there or trying to understand him. It can indicate an easy/simple "fix" rather than the one in need. Next to that there is friends. He was lonely and prolly never heard or understood. What to expect... And they punish him after all the seconds himself was punished. What he did is not kool, but.. Everything can be explained. (Even tho it would not make up for what was done). "That" is the path to solving a problem.. To understand.
@EvanBear3 жыл бұрын
His medication was likely fine, I have a similar regiment as he had, minus the adderall. And I have tons of medication still in my mirror cabinet that I don't use anymore. I have the same medical history he has and am also taking thyroid meds, antidepressants and used to take growth hormones. The ecstasy and alcohol is what messed him up.
@JayJordanJuly3 жыл бұрын
@@EvanBear : Keep telling yourself that Marie. Let’s not address the real problem... let’s keep pretending it doesn’t exist. Your parents job is to prepare you for life. Food, education, nutrition, psychological care, healthy interactions are important as well as preparing you to handle other people socially. Truth is; very few parents are willing to take the time to actually care for their offspring; especially when there are problems that require money and time. Medicating children may be necessary on occasion but any diagnosis would be stringently checked & supported by multiple opinions by professionals if it concerned one of my children. It would be a cold day in hell where I’d have a cupboard full of psychiatric pharmacology in my Kids room. If it’s at all possible.... ask yourself how you were able to resist taking those meds. (The ones you stopped needing) You may find that they were not necessary in the first place.
@EvanBear3 жыл бұрын
@@JayJordanJuly I know that. I was abused as a child. Not being medicated for my obvious illnesses (hypothyroidism, depression) is one part of why my childhood was as shitty as it was. Also, you misunderstood - I didn't stop needing meds. With hypothyroidism you have to take them for the rest of your life. Just recently I had addison's crisis and almost died because I couldn't take my meds (vomited them up due to a stomach bug). The meds that I'm no longer taking where replaced by different, better, meds. I'm holding onto them in case my doctor decides to switch me around to the old meds again, I don't want to waste them. I still need meds. I will always need meds because my thyroid doesn't function right, just like the guy in the video who also had thyroid issues. Medication is necessary and if you refuse your child necessary medication for their hypothyroidism that's considered abuse. Refusing medical treatment to your child is ABUSE. The meds he got from the doctor were fine. The illegal drugs he took were not and taking those was his own choice.
@baptistejean43163 жыл бұрын
"Is known for never throwing parties at his house" "is known for saying he wants to kill his parents and throw a party while their bodies are still there" -Throws a party
@xsidequest93433 жыл бұрын
are you throwing syllogism test? dang im bad at mathematics
@carolinemaybe3 жыл бұрын
What I don’t get it why no neighbours called the cops.
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
@@carolinemaybe They prolly had NO idea that he killed his parents cuz he did it quietly inside of his house... There was no gun involved, so not too much noise. Oh, or do you mean why didn't the neighbors call the cops on them for partying so loud at night?
@Rjs811872 жыл бұрын
Right! I thought same like all his friends should have know that was sketch
@criticRN2 жыл бұрын
Burst out laughing 😂 thanks
@alexboutlas37163 жыл бұрын
Im a bit shocked at the amount of different substances such a young kid was prescribed.
@casanovafunkenstein50903 жыл бұрын
Yeah, his parents definitely shouldn't have sought out that kind of medication that young and whichever doctor filled out the prescriptions clearly wasn't doing it for his benefit so much as to get his mum of their back. It was really irresponsible to give him multiple ssri drugs simultaneously. Even one was questionable.
@floramiller11333 жыл бұрын
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 one is not questionable at all, one is very reasonable, it saves more lives than it damages, the rare extreme symptoms are what they are, rare extreme symptoms, very unlikely, the same way certain people can die from falling from their bed, it’s possible but unlikely. Just look at the life changing reviews online for Zoloft for example, the abundance of miracle stories bury those one or two off rare cases. Stop spreading misinformation.
@casanovafunkenstein50903 жыл бұрын
@@floramiller1133 any tablet is definitely questionable when the child isn't even a teenager. That's what I take issue with. There are times when medication is beneficial, I'm an example of that, but it's definitely inappropriate to medicate a child the way this specific person was and furthermore it's especially fishy when a parent is able to convince a doctor to prescribe growth hormones to someone who hasn't reached full pubescence and has no genetic abnormalities that would inhibit their growth
@colinhunter19543 жыл бұрын
Yes, now there's a crime !!
@floramiller11333 жыл бұрын
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 I agree with you that simultaneously taking a large quantity of a large amount of different medications at his age or at any age really is not good. However at the time when he was depressed chronically, a small amount of Zoloft daily would of been okay, I’m talking a low dose daily for sometime to balance out and to stabilise his mood. That’s what I’m saying because you said that taking one is questionable, when given his chronic depression at the time, sticking to only one would of been okay, and more than likely beneficial. But his parents are dumb and encouraging and allowing him to take so mannny and completely unnecessary amount of irrelevant medications too. Hope you’re getting what I’m saying
@barbtries3 жыл бұрын
it was shocking to me how many drugs his mother seemed to be willing to put into a very young boy. I never want to blame the victim and she didn't deserve to be murdered like that, but I too wonder how much all those chemicals contributed to the breakdown in Tyler's brain.
@rebel44663 жыл бұрын
That's hard to tell. I don't think either of the medications would cause a problem. It most likely enhanced something that was already there and/or was taken in the wrong dosage. Adhd medication for example are often amphetamines, which can cause the same effects as "party drugs" when taken in relatively large amounts. Hormone/Testosterone injections can cause aggression. Being a teenager on top of that, can be a really bad mix. It's not like a totally stable person will become a murderer just by taking a couple pills, but all it takes is a couple minutes to ruin your whole life
@jossykerflossy9153 жыл бұрын
Then don’t victim blame! She was doing what she thought was best for her child. She probably questioned it and felt terrible guilt but also thought she was doing her best
@mypud40683 жыл бұрын
Agreed, of course I feel terrible for the whole family and especially the ones no longer living but it seems t me like the mother was to willing to give her son drugs, I mean my mom wouldn’t give me a narcotic unless it was life or death, I had gone untreated with ADD and I was an awful student but I also am grateful that she didn’t put me down that road mentally at that age. I mean hormones, anti depressants, and anxiety pills? At some point you have to think of the long term effects on his brain at that age
@lackerbitandersson62413 жыл бұрын
Maybe blame the doctors? How can it even be allowed to give this drugs to anyone under 18? Hormones on top of that? Bad judgement and very sad
@MrRyan-wu4jx3 жыл бұрын
For all you know the regimen of medications worked well and were needed and him self medicating with elicit street drugs set him off.
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@emghee25103 жыл бұрын
I feel like Hadley's case is a perfect example of irresponsible prescription management. Why didn't a single physician over his case notice the glaring chemical overload he was enduring? The doctors should also be held liable for medical negligence and malpractice. If Hadley wasn't so fucked on chems, maybe he wouldn't have reacted so violently.
@averyisaiah13 жыл бұрын
One word; money.
@emghee25103 жыл бұрын
@@averyisaiah1 Unfortunately, yes.
@lindanimated3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that it's even possible. In my country, there is a national health service and all doctors/medical professionals, both public sector and private, can access a central database of patient records. That includes seeing prescriptions that have been given by other doctors. It's unbelievable that the US is so against anything like this, even when it would undoubtedly save lives.
@zacharyo50333 жыл бұрын
It is because of privacy
@EvanBear3 жыл бұрын
The legal drugs weren't the issue, I pretty much have the exact same thing going on as he had and I am fine. The illegal drugs and alcohol, which you are warned against using with prescription meds, are the issue here. He fucked himself up with chems. The doctors cared for him the way you are supposed to care for someone with thyroid issues and organically induced depression.
@leahgolden72422 жыл бұрын
Wow what a sad case all around. His best friend is such a good person! His parents should be super proud of him! There are not a lot of teenagers that would do the right thing especially so fast.
@mickaeloliver_3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Michael saw the scene,took a picture with Tyler to register what happened and even called the police is something astonishing. Idk how I would react if something like that would happen to me.
@charlesgill36822 жыл бұрын
J
@aryanprivilege96512 жыл бұрын
Big Pharmaceuticals completely let off the hook, their role in helping exacerbate disasters never an issue, they control stolen governance after usury slave debt banking israel and global corporations.
@blackstar81942 жыл бұрын
Surely scared!!!
@DeletedSoul693 жыл бұрын
Imagine being at a party and not knowing there is 2 dead bodies literally just 10 meters away from you
@wisdomseeker33623 жыл бұрын
@Scarface Were you _really_ ?
@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels3 жыл бұрын
Well, you wouldn't know would you. So it wouldn't be that weird. You could have been to such a party. Shit, I could. Maybe the *same* party.
@Tonebaited1233 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomseeker3362 yes he was
@archlich44892 жыл бұрын
Or knowing you drank a beer with a bloodstained ping-pong ball floating in it.
@gerrywhelan57612 жыл бұрын
Well you just wouldn't know, would you 😏, for if you didn't know, there would be nothing to imagine 😎!
@XBernadetteXIDGAF2 жыл бұрын
I live in a city close to Fort Lauderdale, attended high school from 2009/2010 - 2014. I thought it was crazy when someone told me a story of some kid "killing his parents because they wouldn't let him throw a house party and the parents were left in the house while the party happened." I didn't hear anymore details or mention of this again... I'm sure it was about this case. Extremely chilling. Thanks for sharing!
@CoffeehouseCrime3 жыл бұрын
New video! This case is slightly shorter than usual, in anticipation for next week's case - Which is going to be a big one! And hello to all you new subscribers, thank you for joining! Tyler's brother, Ryan, authored a book covering his experiences following the horrific events that lead to the loss of his parents and indirectly, his brother. You can find the link below. Disclaimer: I am not affiliated, I thought it would be respectful to share. www.amazon.com/Thousand-Fireflies-Ryan-Hadley/dp/1681395185/ And a side note on antidepressants - I am not condoning the use of them! Antidepressants can be very effective when used correctly. I am no psychologist, but it seems that in Tyler's case it was unfortunately packed on him with additional layers of abuse from alcohol and recreational drugs, amongst other potential aggravating factors. Everyone is different, seek professional help where required. Have a great week folks! - Adrian
@merncat33843 жыл бұрын
Personally, I prefer shorter videos.. I usually listen while I'm at work and don't always have time for long videos.
@guymanuel42603 жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian
@LCx8293 жыл бұрын
Please consider Hart Family murders, Mcstay family murders. Love your channel
@dianneledford36813 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Adian I am so glad you decided to start the Channel an yes it's young but it's of Great Quality Production and I always prefer quality over quantity and the fact you cover worldwide cases other channels don't discuss is clearly bonus for the channel yes but for us subscribers its a way to go around the world from our homes, offices or wherever you watch these awesome videos thank you Keep up the great work you are Appreciated
@yup_its_ME.5123 жыл бұрын
@Mladen Joncevski ayyy that was morbid 😄 《chuckles while nervously looking around!》
@myfirefly4ever3 жыл бұрын
I love that fact that your channel covers gim cases of murder but with a respect toward the victims and brings some deep thoughts about good and evil sides of human being. Thank you for blending mixture of human touch and facts on each cases.
@thunderkrux77452 жыл бұрын
There was another channel I tried watching that talked about the same or similar cases, but they kept adding sound effects that were completely unnecessary and made it feel a little cheap or fake. So yeah this guy definitely does it right.
@Whizzo2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting reading through comments to find a lot of people laying the blame on the parents. While medication for kids shouldn't be common, at the end of the day his symptoms were very similar to depression, and it was the doctors, not the parents, who prescribed them. Ultimately the parents were the victims to someone who fell in with the wrong sort of crowd. And as many people have said before, big kudos to Michael to both staying calm while being shown awful sights, and contacting the right people
@korivex742 Жыл бұрын
I have had doctors try to prescribe my children these mind altering medications when they were young but guess what... I said NO F'ing way. Both of my kids grew up just fine, are married with kids and doing well.... with NO medications. They LEARNED coping skills. We seem to live in a world where people think it isn't normal to have some depression or be hyper or slow. Children are DEVELOPING people, they grow and change and you can't just give them a pill to change who they are, it is a learning experience and parents need to stop looking for a short cut.
@esotericoctopus Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I agree. I think a lot of people are terrified of these kinds of drugs without realizing there is a balance. I started them as a child and know many others who have too. Obviously, medication cannot do everything and should be used in conjunction with proper therapeutic practices. It also needs to be taken properly and not mixed with other substances like Tyler was doing.
@NeelieLladnek9 ай бұрын
I don't blame the parents at all. I do blame the effects of the Rx's he started at 10. That then mixed with steroid injections caused his brain to develop "roads to no where" as I call the open over active nerve signals. His brain didn't know how to function normal then he drank and did drugs on top of that 😲. 🥺 so sad. But what's been done can not be undone.
@MeatyOchre3 жыл бұрын
Anti psychotics, anti depressants, adderall, and anabolic steroids. I challenge anyone to be on a regiment such as this on top of normal teenage hormonal changes and not kill someone with a hammer.
@sirismcgee71033 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can’t even imagine what being alive felt like for him.
@ileolai3 жыл бұрын
hormone therapy + adhd meds alone turned me into a monster. not the kind of monster that would kill their parents and throw a house party, mind you, but christ, i felt like i was constantly screaming
@EvanBear3 жыл бұрын
Growth hormones are not anabolic steroids.
@damian87923 жыл бұрын
im on olanzapine(anti psychotic), prozac(anti depressant), Ritalin, Lithium and Lamictal n I feel great!
@Tuber_ZA3 жыл бұрын
@@damian8792 are you sure👀
@CuriousConnoisseurs3 жыл бұрын
Poor Michael. He must have felt like in a Horror Movie.
@JohnnyB_11233 жыл бұрын
I woulda been very concerned to be the next target in that moment. Shit is wild. Michael seemed to handle it well.
@benadrylcumberbun3 жыл бұрын
@Daht Dood Get therapy.
@lorddialtones3 жыл бұрын
@@benadrylcumberbun dont give them the time of day, they're clearly a toxic individual.
@michaeltsang5483 жыл бұрын
Lol
@eggsngritstn3 жыл бұрын
Even if the psych drugs were benign, the steroids and growth hormones will amplify rage to a high level. Certainly a factor.
@marc1981198113 жыл бұрын
Human Growth Hormones and steroids are 2 completely different things. They both attack the same illness but different drugs! It is like saying over-the -counter pain killers are 'technically heroin! These are simple Lougle searches or prior knowledge This simple mistake it why I must leave this channel! If you cant get something so simple, so wrong, it means the rest of your stuff is harder work and there will likely be more mistakes!, I mean CHC, not you, mate. Goodbye CHC! There is no similarity of ANYTHING between the 2 drugs, only they attack similar things. Against other crime of your group you focus on the wrong part of the crime, on the part that they already know from News,, net etc. This mainly why I must leave. I am English so you know how hard it is for me to leave you behind :( :(
@tubarao11433 жыл бұрын
Steroids and GH are completely different and do not "attack" similar problems...
@nightshadehelis98213 жыл бұрын
The whole "roid rage" thing is a myth that needs to go away. I take testosterone because I have an autoimmune disease and my levels were extremely low. It's been a miracle for me. I've noticed absolutely nothing but high-school levels of energy and libido. It doesn't make your penis smaller either, which is another rediculous myth. It does cause minor acne though, but I've always suffered from that anyways. Turns out, an extremely small percentage of bodybuilders are narcissistic, self-absorbed, and aggressive assholes. Instead of blaming their mental condition, people point fingers and go "muh steroids". It's rediculous. I even remember CNN blaming "roid rage" on Trump for taking prednisone after catching the coronavirus. All prednisone does is suppress your immune system...at a cost.
@soniadevlin4873 жыл бұрын
The American healthcare system is ridiculous. You’d never find a child on that much medication in the uk
@jacobhate3 жыл бұрын
@@nightshadehelis9821 certain androgens can increase aggression in some people, but not gh lmao
@oldcollegecoed2 жыл бұрын
JESUS! I’ve seen several channels discuss this case, but none explained Tyler’s problematic psych history. It’s surprising he managed to control the side effects of the negligent amount of drugs he was exposed to for as long as he did! What a total tragedy!
@twisted_autumn3 жыл бұрын
"He asked Tyler if he could have a photo with him, knowing this would be the last time he would ever be together with his childhood friend." having a previous childhood friend myself who, ill spare the details, about two years back had made a fairly similar rash decision, dear god that line hit me right where it truly hurts
@michaelbarker30783 жыл бұрын
I know Whatchu mean dawg it ain’t easy but we here tho
@trouaconti78123 жыл бұрын
Open up if you wish. We’re here to listen
@rscholey853 жыл бұрын
Forget sparing us the details we watch this stuff to know the details
@itsMe_TheHerpes3 жыл бұрын
well, now you have to tell us the details.
@deathbydesign6r6233 жыл бұрын
Yo
@TheInvestiGatorYT3 жыл бұрын
House parties aren't really a thing in my country and this isn't selling them either.
@philthethotdestroyer41943 жыл бұрын
some good content on ur channel
@DM-nw5lu3 жыл бұрын
They can be a lot of fun. When I was 16-18 I would visit them quite frequently. But I would've never had gone to an open invite party. On the house parties I went to everyone pretty much knew everyone. There were no psychopaths on ecstasy present, lol.
@Idkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkee3 жыл бұрын
Most are nothing like how they are portrayed in the movies, usually a couple people hanging out playing drinking games. Every now & again you'll come by what's referred to as a 'rager', usually in college/university areas. These will have more of your crazy activities & attendees. While in college my sorority (yes, I'm a female) would host monthly house parties but again, nothing like in the movies, they were usually pretty uneventful & boring. It's usually the uninvited people who start the trouble, create havoc & destruction bc they know they can get away with no consequences.
@raoulduke3443 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, which country are you in? In some countries it's illegal for any non-government event, which can be looked at as a conspiracy. Is it a legal issue in your country or a sociological one?
@Hvhjkvv3 жыл бұрын
In the US teens are not permitted in bars or clubs.
@dehanj65523 жыл бұрын
Two South African cases you might want to take a look at: The Grave murder, Michael van Eck and the Griquatown murders, Don Steenkamp
@frognamedjog3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Both cases are so chilling
@malaikamahlatsi53733 жыл бұрын
And definitely the murder of Uyinene Mrwetyana. That murder brought the country to its knees. I don't think we will ever recover from it.
@dehanj65523 жыл бұрын
@@malaikamahlatsi5373 I considered adding Uyinene Mrwetyana and Hannah Cornelius. Truly heartbreaking cases
@thevancrewafrica3 жыл бұрын
And also the De Zalze axe murders
@felicitywillboughby69013 жыл бұрын
Oh yes...i agree,.. Fellow SA umdeni/gesin
@tinatree17392 жыл бұрын
I have a degree in criminal justice, psychology, education and nursing (I was trying to be a prison counselor but ended up a nurse), with that said... My opinion is; 1. Tyler had no idea what it meant to think clearly. Each of those drugs have a different effect that can contradict the other. Adderall would have made him alert and restless while anxiety medication would make him calm but agitated because of the contradiction. Lexapro would have stabilized his mood mildly but if his mood was aggressive then thats the one that sticks around. Hormone medication also creates the same as menopause or puberty. 2. Most kids go through depression or anxiety, especially when transitioning. As parents we try to elevate the transition stress the best we can by offering guidance and options. This kid clearly couldn't talk to his parents without ending up on another medication. If everything he did was wrong and needed a medication to be resolved then starting a couch on fire was the first huge S.O.S 3. Im not saying what he did was right. Im saying he never stood a mental chance, he never had options so he took the option of completion. By ending his parents life, for him he ended the entire problem. 4. Prison talk ..... in prison people say and do whatever it takes to survive. If he is calling himself hammer boy its not lack of sympathy, its him trying to be intimidating or big so he can survive. 5. That kid never should have gotten life. He should have gotten 20 years with excessive mental treatment and 25 on Parole to ensure he maintains proper mental health care and other services to help him understand life in general. Thats my OPINION.
@OtomoTenzi2 жыл бұрын
He was just a PUNK-ASS BITCH... He wasn't goin' NOWHERE even if he had NOT killed anyone!
@P-P-Panda3 жыл бұрын
Knowing those people were drinking beer mixed with his own mother’s blood, and not even realizing it until later..🤢
@_mnejing3 жыл бұрын
I've read a lot about this case, and never once heard of mixing blood and beer. What are you getting on with? If you're talking about the ping pong ball, maybe you missed it or maybe it was skipped, but they cleaned the ball before playing with it.
@earthredalert3 жыл бұрын
to be fair - during the average game of beer pong even compared to human blood you cannot imagine the rancid crap people half-knowingly ingest (apart from the booze). Balls all over the floor where everyone trapses in and out? No problem, just give it a wipe on your sweaty ass shirt to get all that hair, dust and nasty bacteria off. Good as new, drink up ladies and gents! The red cups of death!
@_mnejing3 жыл бұрын
@@earthredalert that's for damn sure lol
@michaeltsang5483 жыл бұрын
😔😔😔
@cheeriosforhonkies88673 жыл бұрын
@Ya boi that’s common sense though 🤣🤣
@vincentserrano15953 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest , I'm not having a coffee but a beer in the Sun ! Congrats on your success well deserved 👏
@vincentserrano15953 жыл бұрын
@Mladen Joncevski get it into you!
@CoffeehouseCrime3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great plan to me! Enjoy!
@vincentserrano15953 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeehouseCrime Cheers Pal keep up the great work 💪
@grizzakaful3 жыл бұрын
Water is fine for me.
@e.v61343 жыл бұрын
A post thread for addiction and bad choices. Classy
@logansymmes21933 жыл бұрын
Imagine having a party with your friend, completely unaware of the horrible thing he had just done in the room next to you.
@drifter613 жыл бұрын
This happened to me. Guy killed his grandma and we all were entirely unaware
@stephanie52493 жыл бұрын
@@drifter61 😳 I wouldn’t object to more details on THAT one. That’s bananas
@alkezz993 жыл бұрын
@@drifter61 mind sharing any more details?
@logansymmes21933 жыл бұрын
@@drifter61 Oh my god. Thats horrible, I hope you are okay after that.
@michaeltsang5483 жыл бұрын
Scary
@navandozer Жыл бұрын
I like how his best friend was like "oh, your dead parents? Aight, imma head out."
@sscraddock3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what doctor thought it was a good idea to put a young person on all those scripts. They should be held accountable to some degree.
@UsmevavyPanacek3 жыл бұрын
I kind of think the doctors that stuffed all that shit into little kid should carry at least part of the blame.. I mean, bloody hell, what a cocktail.
@CFbastar3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t solve anything. The doctors are victims of big pharma influence. When a person starts their med Ed he gets exposed to endless propaganda funded by big pharma to eventually sell all these medications once they start working. US is rather pathetic if you ask me for allowing such a thing
@UsmevavyPanacek3 жыл бұрын
@@CFbastar I remember reading a book (Ceremonial Chemistry, if I'm not mistaken) partly about how fucked up this situation with big pharma is, but I thought the author was exagerating a little.. Damn. And sure, maybe it was even recomended combination. I'm not psychiatrist. But to my common sense it seems like going a bit overboard, giving all that to one person. But yeah, you're right. Core of that particular problem lies somewhere else.
@roanaya25983 жыл бұрын
u said doctors, people replied saying big pharma, then someone might say actually capitalism..... Lets have a look at their parents guilt in this, rip
@LB-mr8qv3 жыл бұрын
@@CFbastar absolutely not. As a doctor you have an elevated personal responsibility to understand the actions you're taking. Unless you have evidences that giving ssri's to a child with a medical history like the killers (premature, the additional mood altering drugs and steroids perscribed), you absolutely should not do this. One this not mentioned is therapy and meetings with a psychologist. If you're not 1000% sure that these drugs are the appropriate response, you should refer to other medical professionals in the relevant fields. You cannot shield doctors being this excuse of they were victims to big pharma when were criticizing unethical decisions these doctors have done. Absent conclusive evidence supporting the ssri's, alternative solutions should have been exhausted before turning a minor into a Florida prescription guinea pig. And even after that if you find yourself as a doctor still wanting to make these decisions, you should not be a doctor and I would question the moral character and ego of that doctor. If there is a hell, an entitled university grad who just so happened to land a job in the medical profession while lacking the empathy and aptitude for the job, is what hell is made for. Go flip burgers if you're willing to do this to minors with underdeveloped brains. Appalling to the core.
@LB-mr8qv3 жыл бұрын
@@CFbastar to summarize. Ethics and philosophy classes should be mandatory for doctors, maybe stringent oversight boards as well because this is tragic.
@iicordii6483 жыл бұрын
I was on the same anxiety meds that kid took and I’ll tell you what, it FUCKS with you. I stopped taking them on my own legit a few months ago. There was times my anxiety was going through the roof and I remember like walking into a gas station an wishing someone would shoulder check me so I could smash their face in. I’ll never take those meds again. Since I stopped taking them and started working on my anxiety in my own, I haven’t felt an urge to even hurt a fly. Im telling you those meds are fuckin dangerous. I never had any issues like that before taking the meds either. They would send me in like a mental rage? That’s the only way I can explain it. Thankfully I was on them for less than a year. Im so glad I wasn’t on them for longer. Some people react to certain medications differently. He probably battled those demons in his head for YEARS before even speaking about anything.
@jasona38843 жыл бұрын
These meds seem to be a common theme with these rage murders. Wonder If anyone has started suing the doctors?
@lisabelle75533 жыл бұрын
SSRIs are the scourge of the 21st century. I personally saw what happened to my sister and my boyfriend and their personality changes when they took them. It’s a known fact because suicidal and homicidal ideation. There’s been many studies on this and a person is most at risk when they are starting or quitting them.
@ishidaxnemui3 жыл бұрын
@@lisabelle7553 I totally get your perspective and respect it. Some SSRIs *may* cause an increase in suicidal ideation in the first few weeks of you taking them. However that doesn't mean that SSRIs are bad - there are so many of them, and they react differently with everyone. You and your doctor need to find the one that works best for you. In the future we might be able to use biomarkers to predict how one might personally respond, but for now unfortunately it's trial and error
@zeinab92222 жыл бұрын
@@lisabelle7553 ssris actually lessened any violent thoughts i had because i stopped being angry all the time, but everyones different
@LYNN-id9rb2 жыл бұрын
@Porcupine Literally no one said all medication is bad. OP was referring to specifically those same anxiety meds as Tyler and compared it to his personal experience, which was very similar to Tyler's. And it IS a fact that this happens A LOT, so it wouldn't even be a generalization but, rather, a sign that scientists needs to look more into these meds and have doctors take more accountability.
@ScratchthechalkBoard2 жыл бұрын
Actually his cell mate gave him the nickname “Hammer Boy” that was shortened to “Hambo” then the other inmates caught on and they started calling him that as well. He signed some newspaper articles as Hambo so they could sell it to get money and sometimes with hopes of being famous by being locked up with him during their time in prison
@79guitarherofreak3 жыл бұрын
Black box warnings for Lexapro: (Imagine this on a developing brain) -attempts to commit suicide -acting on dangerous impulses -aggressive or violent actions -thoughts about suicide or dying -new or worse depression -new or worse anxiety or panic attacks -feeling restless, angry, or irritable -trouble sleeping -increased activity (doing more than what is normal for you) other unusual changes in your behavior or mood Safe to say there was some possible damage done while his brain was developing. To go from quiet and pleasant to angry and erratic fits the Lexapro puzzle (Along with other antidepressants)
@jamiejones61223 жыл бұрын
PAXIL made me extremely aggressive. I wanted to kill myself I wanted to hurt my brothers I was tired all the time I was hungry all the time I was angry easily. When I chased my brothers through the house wielding a high heel stiletto shoe as a weapon, threw a pill bottle at his head (missed) and then they grabbed my lil bro and hid from me. I snapped out of it when they grabbed my lil bro, took a step back, looked at the situation, and said "huh this isnt normal is it...?" I sat in the computer chair, Looked at the side effects, and called my doctors (all while my brothers hid- freaking out in the bathroom.)
@acsone35463 жыл бұрын
@Don’t get Banned! ecstasy is 100% the worst drug for your mental state
@tessalexander45693 жыл бұрын
lexapro is the medication that saved me from debilitating ocd when i was 12, but sure, ok, just spread fear -_- obviously everyone reacts differently to medications, and this is especially true with ssris, but lexapro can do a lot of good for a lot of people so stop spreading this fear mongering.
@jen18303 жыл бұрын
I take Lexapro and I feel suicidal alot but I deal with it. Figured its just me.. In either sad af or mad
@stevenschnepp5763 жыл бұрын
@Don’t get Banned! Just because most people on it are fine, doesn't mean all people are.
@LocalNativee3 жыл бұрын
Let’s give it a GOO- oh wait...
@benlister48013 жыл бұрын
Love Mike
@Little.Bird.3 жыл бұрын
Shhh
@notthesame89913 жыл бұрын
😁
@laurashipp4473 жыл бұрын
Haha! Mike out!! What's crazy is I just saw this story on another channel just yesterday!!
@michaelfarrer30443 жыл бұрын
I get that reference!
@ravensthatflywiththenightm73193 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad he is serving time in jail and no chance of parole - despite the fact that he was a minor at the time of the murders. Meanwhile the kids who abducted James Bulger and tortured him to death were cut loose quick and easy with brand new identities just because they were minors. Now that is messed up.
@dianaveronicakambanis96902 жыл бұрын
Very sad.poor children put on drugs
@TeaCup19402 жыл бұрын
Yes, those sentences were a joke! They should have gotten life in prison. Or the death penalty. They were old enough to torture that poor child to death. So they should be old enough to accept the consequences of their crimes....