The HUGE Difference Between the McLaren and Aston Martin

Thanks so much to Craig Scarborough for joining us, go follow him on Twitter - @ScarbsTech - / scarbstech
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Well, the front wing isn’t the area I thought we’d be looking so closely at - but there we go.
So, as of now we’ve had time to analyse three cars. The Haas, the Aston and the Macca - and all three are surprisingly different.
ESPECIALLY the front wings - which really highlights the differences in the aero packages as a whole - so we’ve got Scarbs to break it down for us -
{He has this mad brain that can just see in CFD, probably}
Anyway…
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But Callum, Red Bull announced their car too? Well, as everyone has been saying - that’s literally the Silverstone show car but in Red Bull fancy dress. Apparently, some of the aero bits actually don’t comply with the current aero regs - lol.
Anyway, lets get into it. The Haas was the first to announce a car - and, yes it’s a Render - not a real car - but still, there are some interesting bits to look into.
the thing that we can tell straight away is it looks very different from the f1 show car and in particular with those fat fronted side pods now you've got to remember that barge boards have been taken away lots of the ways that the teams flow the air have been taken away so hearts are using a big fat side pod front in order to push the air around the car to get the front tire wake away from the car so it's all kind of like a fake barge ball shape and what they're also trying to do is bring all the radiators up high and forwards in order to get that super slim rear end and we will see some of the louvers on the back of the house
But the most interesting thing was that front wing - it was the first time we saw that separated lower plane of the wing - with the nose-mounted to the second plane.
This allows for cleaner flow around that lower plane, as well as into the floor after that. It was also very mid-loaded, so if you look, the middle of each front wing plane was most aggressively shaped.
This is similar to a lot of the 2021 cars - and was what we expected with these cars. But then the Aston shook things up a little.
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#Formula1 #AstonMartin #McLaren

[@Driver61]

So stoked to be looking at real cars! Which of the upcoming cars are you looking forward to most?

[@uhis1686]

Has to be the red bull car for me, Adrian Newey has to come up with some madness for sure.

[@murangi.p-in-hd]

the actual red bull car 😂😂

[@madbain79]

McLaren looks noise!

[@zippo5294]

Ferrari, Mercedes and RB

[@rolandmdill]

Can't wait to see the Mercedes!

[@letsseetofindout2560]

I think the largest difference I noticed was that one of them was orange while the other was green

[@Jimbo7]

Holy shit you're right

[@RandimaDiMaria]

Bruh🤦‍♂️🤣

[@masacote_]

Thank you, Sherlock

[@thedawggm2736]

🤣

[@Netrole]

Yeah i noticed that too! Odd how nobody is talking about this

[@WAH_tever]

From my understanding, the design of McLaren is trying to conquer their weakness in the past years. Having a lower front wing helps to create more downforce at a lower speed, compared to the tunnels which is lean more towards high-speed situations. With the pull rod design in the front, I think the team is looking to transfer some stability duty in high-speed corners to a lower center of gravity suspension system. Also, from the driving style of both Mclaren drivers(especially Daniel) and the past performance of the vehicle, I think the team agrees to sacrifice some advantage in hard-braking corners and high-speed corners to overcome their weakness in lower speed corners. So we might see a less aggressive Mclaren in the Monza, but a more well-rounded overall performance from the team. I really hope Daniel benefit from the regulations change and get back in form, and Norris getting his first win this year.

[@MashiatCOD99]

I reckon this might be a sensible approach, since you spend more time in slower corners than faster corners and there is more to gain. Red Bull have also generally prioritised slow-speed functionality over faster corners, and it’s worked well for them.

[@ivorytitan7653]

I believe McLaren have always been strong in high speed corners and tracks (Monza ofc) so makes sense for them to sacrifice some high speed corner performance for more well rounded performance at low speeds, and maybe help Daniel too

[@mrboast2826]

Well most of f1 circuit have slow corners and only few have longer straight line....It not worth to gamble for few circuit like Monza or Austria when you have lot of track which have a lot of slow corner

[@glenrobinson10]

James Key has also said that "the nature of the 2022 cars means it’s probably a little easier to maintain some of the strengths that we have." So the theory to focus on slow speed performance means they could create a competitive balanced car on all tracks.

[@sombraarthur]

I think this is spot on. I would also liketo add that to me, the pullrod at the front is aimed to offset some of introduced changes of the lower profile tyres, where the pullrod tends to be a bit more efficient in terms of setting up the best stiffness of the front suspension. If it is too stiff, the car will bottom-out and lose time, performance and it is a big risk. Too little, and that low nose is going to be at pieces every single race. To me, McLaren found a way (which in a sense is pretty similar to what they do on Indy Cars) to keep that underfloor at the best height at all times, so I guess that McLaren will run "wider" in the corners than their rivals.

[@filipeferreira9788]

The AM looks good though, my fav car right now.

[@cephaspaul12]

Fw44 looks quite aggressive

[@carlitoxb110]

I love the design it's a beautiful car

[@OmDahake]

Aston Martin is beautiful

[@ananthu8534]

waiting for Mercedes-Benz silver livery return 💞

[@ml8022]

You will find that car at the back of the grid

[@rodrigodepierola]

I love how Scrabs can looks at blurry, low-res picture and then say "that panel is 3° lower, but it isn't carbon fiber, it's just a plastic part"

[@wesleygama968]

Man has a gift.

[@ant1010]

Williams looks like they've got a higher front wing.some of the old school ground effect cars didn't have a front wing at all.

[@timnb0340]

Really excited for the new season, the teams have really different cars!

[@damarfadlan9251]

The 2022 F1 cars looked worse in my opinion.

[@alunesh12345]

@@damarfadlan9251 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. Hell isn't fun.GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.😍❤😇

[@timnb0340]

@@damarfadlan9251 that is subjective off course, i like them alot. they are maybe a bit slower and heavier but i like the different looks and ideas from the different teams

[@damarfadlan9251]

@@timnb0340 yes. The top speed of the 2022 F1 cars maybe cut by 14kph.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@damarfadlan9251 yes. And 40kgs heavier.

[@stratis722]

scarbs can literally see in cfd

[@dylanf1]

aeros aside, the aston martin looks the best by far!

[@edenbh3609]

May be wrong but o think it will be either fast or bust not much in the middle. Bold design that's the way to go

[@meganod279]

@@edenbh3609 absolutely. It will be a big bet. It could be a championship car, or even worse than the Haas.

[@okgo8315]

dylan69.....not my favourite team but i agree, it looks great👍🇬🇧

[@vashisl33t]

imo williams has the best looking car so far i dont the slats on the sidepods of the AM and Ferrari

[@hamzterix]

higher front wing make sense wih ground effects.

[@NibbleSnarph]

That Aston looks beautiful, so striking in motion, love the high wing look really draws attention the the aggressive floor entry and the those fantastic side pods. I hope Seb is at least competitive this year.

[@andreavelinodacosta1418]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@cedricfranzen8558]

Maybe this is me reading too much into it, but it seems like Aston have really tried to design a car that gives Seb the stable rear end he likes so much and had in his RB blown defusor days

[@dylanf1]

god i hope so

[@il-ma.le.]

It's their designate winner, and very dependent from this stable rear. It was a pretty logical choice. Thing is that the general opinion on these new cars is them being 'strange', like constantly ill-tuned, and pretty unstable in general for reasons tied to this ground effect. But maybe the simulators just don't run these new cars very well...

[@leehawes901]

@@il-ma.le. that was an issue back in the 70s with ground effect too so it doesn’t shock me

[@wss33]

Here we go again....is that all you know about F1? Seb liking a stable rear and that's all that matters? Forget about all the rule changes, it's all about having a stable rear. Yes, it's that simple.

[@reid1420]

@@wss33 tbf, no driver would like an unstable rear end that snaps every time u turn into a corner. Not tryna to be sarcastic or whatever I'm just saying🤷🏾‍♂️🙂

[@Kibbelingg]

Man, That AM really does look amazing. Looks a bit bulky from the top view with those side pods, but looks like a proper race car from any other 'normal' perspective. Hope it works out for them in terms of performance as wel.

[@Cos_Why_Not]

I like the top view. It reminds me of my favorite era of cars, 2006-2008. The Aston Martin in general is very remiscent of those. Absolutely beautiful.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@Cos_Why_Not me too love those.

[@mungolianbeef]

So hyped for testing!!

[@commandergeokam2868]

But we wont see anything from the catalonya testing

[@hiimmidas]

Will we get to see all the F1 cars next week? at preseason testing

[@yenice3652]

@@hiimmidas some pictures maybe but it's supposed to be closed to the public

[@pali1H]

I really hope Aston is competitive this season

[@overvieweffect9034]

I hope there's a pt.2 to this, either when all (or most) cars are launched, and perhaps even better, when the season starts proper

[@thetruebatman4632]

I dig through youtube all day for these videos discussing the new designs, love it and keep em coming!

[@PlaystationNation2k9]

McLaren's my team, so I've got my fingers crossed they've nailed the new regs. They've got some impressive names in the design department too, so I am fairly optimistic for the coming season.

[@brianvogt8125]

Not my favourite team, but there's always hope when car design rule changes are significant. 1998 lifted McLaren & Mika Häkkinen from being also-rans to champions, with Adrian Newey adapting best to grooved tyres & reduced car width.

[@geiers6013]

OMG I am so hyped to see these cars in action. Hopefully the field will be much closer together than last year.

[@MrSatnavatron]

I really do worry about how the McLaren drivers are going to react to this insanely squiggly plan

[@happycanayjian1582]

We’ll certainly get a better (fairer?) comparison of D vs L’s adaptability in a whole new car.

[@andresilvasophisma]

I have doubts that is the real front wing on the McLaren, they have hidden a lot of stuff. In their renders there 's not even room for the front wheels to turn.

[@armanahmed5332]

That what I was thinking also. Not enough space even turning the wheel. They definitely hide something. Also they tried to hide lots of parts in rear wing as well. I feel like they found some loopholes. Thats why they parts they showed us looks very bizarre.

[@akkmo1834]

You dont know much about steering, dont you? If theres 1cm gap, it should be enough

[@andresilvasophisma]

@@akkmo1834 No I really don't know nothing about steering. It's not like I've been driving for more than 20 years. Try this "mclaren 2022 from above". Hope that's a flexi-wing because that's the only way they'll be able to turn.

[@ranjanmaithani6263]

If they are hiding then they are gay

[@drnerd]

Anyone else coming away humming 'If you like pina coladas'!?!? 😂😂😂

[@LukeFancher]

The Aston’s sidepod bulk reminds me of the old ‘Wing Cars’ in the original ground effect era. I quite like it.

[@tiemenscholten3755]

Awesome quality as always. By far my favourite KZbin channel! Keep up the good work, you guys are doing amazing.

[@maximum.p]

New video needed about the AT and the Williams !

[@PiousMoltar]

I guess they'll do a similar video covering the rest of the cars once all are revealed... hope so anyway.

[@kapilbusawah7169]

That AMR22 is my favourite design of an F1 car I've ever seen. It's gorgeous and nothing has quite ruffled these feathers like that!

[@harrodharrod5239]

Love what Aston did. The car looks amazing, especially with that teal livery.

[@Wesssel]

Teal? The Aston is literally as green as it gets

[@harrodharrod5239]

@@Wesssel I have bad news for you. Either you need to seriously recalibrate your display, or your color vision is way worse than you would care to admit. The color has almost perfect 1:1 blue/green ratio. Google images of the car seem to have it skewed towards green ever so slightly, but in this video, some reflections even have more blue than green in them. But hey, don't take my word on it. Make a screenshot (or get a photo of the car from google), paste it to image editor of your choice and use color picker to see for yourself.

[@Wesssel]

@@harrodharrod5239 how about you look up the colour code online, of the actual paint they put on the car. It's Nick name is Kermit green

[@harrodharrod5239]

@@Wesssel I mean, call it what you want (I'd like to get link to that article, because I could not find it btw). In the meanwhile, the only hard fact is, that the color taken directly from renders provided by AM about a week ago is approximately 1:1 blue/green. Non-branded name of that color is teal.

[@Wesssel]

@@harrodharrod5239 that's fair, it is true that the renders show that color. Maybe it is because of artificial lighting. I guess I was expecting a more green colour code, for an Aston Martin but it is a lot more teal than i thought. However, i do think it is more green than blue in real life, but your point still stands

[@thistleclockworks1292]

Best and most accessible aero explanation of the current packages. Great work!

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Williams is the most radical design I have seen so they're ones to watch for me. Also, AR has given away quite a lot from the looks of things so I look forward to seeing what that looks like. McLarens design seems the most conventional in terms of packaging but with the suspension it's gone the opposite, where as AMR has gone the other way, unconventional with the packaging and more conventional with the suspension. This is all very exciting stuff for the tech nerds.

[@letsseetofindout2560]

can't wait! but I do think it is tid bit over hyped (the season). I don't think the cars are as close together as everyone seems

[@patfix]

Different doesn’t necessarily mean faster, but that AM does look great. Alfa Romeo also had some of the same ideas, so it’s not unique either. Very curious to see how they will perform!

[@rushankuma]

@@letsseetofindout2560 Yeah. Fans and the media are hyping this but the FIA and the teams already saying that it's not one night work. Throughout the season, the teams will look out each-others best ideas and will upgrade their cars. Given that McLaren goes other way about suspension they might struggle, but who knows that they are the team that did understand the loophole better. So at the second half, we will be seeing close racing.

[@laszlokaestner5766]

At this late stage it is probably unlikely that you can "give too much away" as the design philosophy of all the other cars is set. Nobody is about to add gills to their sidepods a la AMR unless they were already planning on doing so. The change would just be too great.

[@MrSatnavatron]

I'm not gonna lie -- when you added Paul Rudd in , that made my day

[@mikosoft]

"See in CFD" should be Scarb's punchline now :D

[@DrpToast8]

I love Aerodynamics, this stuff is soooooo cool. I also love how you guys are using Craig to explain it all for you XD ty so much for another vid 🤗

[@harlamTK]

Great break down and explanation as always from Scarbs. Guy makes aero philosophy sound like a chat down the pub

[@fablewalls]

What I'm interested in is whether Aston and McLaren have spent winter break busily trying to figure out the engine mapping and engine modes that Mercedes ran from Brazil onwards. If all the Mercedes engined teams can cut engine penalties to the ICE component, they can all run harder and hotter than any Ferrari or Honda engined team. This could be really interesting.

[@harrisonfry128]

Exactly my thoughts, because it looks like AM and McLaren have some interesting aero designs and if their engine modes and mappings are top notch, we could be seeing them up at the top

[@ianelliott229]

I love the presentation style. Information with the right sort of humour.

[@realfians4k]

Yessssss this is exactly what I was looking for!! Thanks!!

[@joshvdv]

I love your videos. Keep making them!

[@chrisc475]

Aagh! I'm a huge McLaren fan but I adore the new Aston. The fact that the two are so different might suggest that one has got it very right, and the other less so, but would be massively excited to see both manufacturers up there this year. After Abu Dhabi I was a bit disillusioned but having seen the new cars, and the variety of designs, I think 2022 could be anybody's and I can't wait.

[@drnerd]

Great vid, really explained it in a way that a berk like me can understand!

[@derekcarl82]

Been binging your vids great stuff 👍👍👍

[@grillmeisterkush6396]

Vettel and the AM will kill it this season. that's my prediction.

[@emad7229]

I fucking hope so

[@deathmetaldownhiller7874]

It seems like I'm the only one loving the Mclaren. Really love the livery. The Alpha Tauri square side pods look rad too

[@mihajlovucinic011]

One thing i see… when having wing to wing contact with astons the other car will get more damage😀

[@sombraarthur]

Not necessarily, but I see your point.

[@JakeM218]

Interestingly, the new cars have been made smaller, but they have to be heavier than the 2021 cars. The plan is for them to be more durable during on track clashes - another way to promote closer racing.

[@fisnikramadani4147]

I've been watching some other videos analyzing the new AM and it seems like they have done a pretty good job this year.

[@francoisbertrand7612]

Thank you, these are awesome! And great job (didn't catch your name?), love your vibe as well as Scott's

[@ewanmcintyre955]

His names Callum McIntyre, Yes he’s my brother 😆

[@9279chomp]

Could you imagine if Seb wins the title this year? That'd be something else

[@gastonhitw720]

Finally we are seeing different car builds, I can't wait to see who's got it better

[@scottbell5387]

great episode!

[@leewolf6434]

I really just can’t wait for this year!!

[@danielmax3327]

great analysis

[@aabidamn]

Haas engineers watching this video: "WRITE THAT DOWN!!! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!"

[@premnaik]

WOW this content is as much detailed as on F1 TV app and it free

[@rositaortiz9438]

More of this please!

[@georgekerr8804]

Thanks for the analysis, Scarbs.

[@OmDahake]

Hope to see some variety and closer racing this year

[@stonedfinn3649]

This is an incredible year for F1 cars, im loving every single one of them.

[@wolfinthesuit]

Oh now i can adjust my F1 car perfectly, very useful video

[@bobbybawbager]

Can't be the only person that was apprehensive about the new cars? Now I'm so excited about this season can't wait.

[@larikauranen2159]

I love the way the aston martin looks. Bes so far of the released images and the high mounted front wing plays a big part for me

[@MV1-OP81-Mclaren]

Thanks Driver61, now my question regarding why the 2022 cars nose and front wing are so high is answered. 👍

[@LukebeingLuke]

Always love to see those engineers design every little part with such detail and meaning

[@damarfadlan9251]

So stoked on those cars.

[@smey02]

so cool that there are so many differences

[@vin-cc9nk]

Props to the editor for all those slick paul rudd pun rods

[@hydralance8837]

Looking forward Ferraris reveal tomorrow, and Mercedes the day after that!! I'm hopping for a return to the silver arrows.

[@laurenmartinez55]

I love the look of the new cars, they all look super cool thanks to the simplified aero

[@gofigure84]

As an American F1 fan I love the fact that teams get to design their cars how they want within the rules. On the flip side having more spec cars puts more on the drivers ability to be the difference maker.

[@DixiSkull]

Pull Rod and Push Rod gifs were hilarious!!!

[@sandstor4321]

Love the AM design. Checkout the AM double T-tray. Is it legal?

[@xartpant]

Finally some good looking f1 cars.

[@Chuck59ish]

The way the cars look on introduction may change by the time they get to the first race. F1 is always in flux, the car at introduction barely looks the same by August break, unless it wins evry race up until the break.

[@oliverenojado5512]

Do you guys have videos like this that explain aero of older generation cars?

[@dimmk3732]

I love how you can tell because of the way they are

[@DerGoddi]

5:30 no I would say tubulent air is easier to manipulate futher since it doesnt detatch from a surface as early compared to laminar flow conditions?

[@MrKarvaKeijo]

Callum you are awesome! Even without the pina colada.

[@PiousMoltar]

"The Aston Martin is beautiful" I love the livery and from certain angles it looks great, but those long, straight sidepods look weird.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Nah I like that makes it look more powerful like a fighter jet or something

[@darkalman]

The wet weather on the last day of testing gave away Mclarens trick. They have a really powerful Vortex (the McVortex) sealing the floor. Way more powerful than everyone elses. Looks like they did the unthinkable and raised the front floor slightly to expose the strakes on the side of the floor to perform vortex generation That entire lack of undercut seems ridiculous until you realize it's pushing air into that area and driving these vortices to seal the floor

[@MisterRay15]

I love the AMR22s high ground clearance

[@bwxmoto]

Not sure if you're doing it on purpose but I enjoy the snappy editing. 👍

[@Hussien..]

Where is the other driver61 ?

[@bwxmoto]

@@Hussien.. 🤷‍♂️ I dunno

[@Hussien..]

@@bwxmoto What are the causes of the fall of the Soviet Union?

[@norbertkocsis5945]

A 2023 version of this video would be so interesting

[@sireastwood]

Maybe the FIA will change the regs abit after seeing what aston did and everyone will run a 2008 type wing that would be cool! 2:50

[@svenwahnsinn734]

nope, they denied that earlier on.

[@philippedefechereux8740]

Promising multi-fangled start for the first new 2022 machines!

[@revkingracing84]

Despite the difference in front wing hight the difference in pace (or lack thereof) is not very big

[@BobVerdoes]

Hehehe, Paul Rudd when talking about Pull Rods was very clever.

[@montyboon4127]

The AM having a high front wing is good because they can get more air into those side tunnels which means they get more air sucking the car to the ground

[@damienlove2003]

This season will be interesting

[@AD-df5tm]

I haven't been this excited for an F1 season in 20 years. Maybe more.

[@jichaelmorgan3796]

How much are they allowed to change the design during the season? Will some of them look much different by the end of the season?

[@aristoaum]

This is what I waiting for.

[@Ph0enix7373]

Nice dde background music

[@CristiNeagu]

Every time I see a video on this topic, the only thing I can think about is that we need an F0 with no restrictions apart from having 4 wheels and keeping them in contact with the ground at all times.

[@elliotcowell3139]

pikes peak unlimited

[@mightyakkylex]

Just can't wait to see them wheel to wheel at full speed 😍

[@petkokrushev3840]

The season will be fyre

[@BattleDogs]

Quick question if some of the designs are pushing dirty air through the gap between the bottom edge of the rear wing, isn’t that going to push dirty air into car behind? If that’s the case doesn’t make the design changes for 22 obsolete? having dirty used air was one of the reasons for not being able to push up to the car in front and stay there ?

[@Luke-en2tk]

Come the first race of the season I bet the front wings will all look very similar

[@peerage1]

Can we have a few more videos with this presenter, he’s good

[@jamesrapp9778]

Cheers mate 😎 👌

[@mrsnk1]

that dde background music though

[@frankderksen9536]

More downforce on front can also lift the rear end causing the rear end losing offend more grip. Thats why front spoilers that low is for sure a negative effect

[@dentistrygt4946]

interesting video. background music is very distracting though

[@luthfibadri]

I love your hair btw.