The Integra Type R is the best of a generation| Buyer's Guide | Ep. 308

Hagerty’s Marketplace Editor Colin Comer gives a deep dive into the Acura Integra Type R. Although short-lived in production, the Integra Type R has firmly established itself among enthusiast circles. Colin details the whys and hows as well as covers all the basics of buying, owning, and maintaining this beloved ‘90s icon.
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Episode chapters:
00:00 - 01:16 - Introduction
01:20 - 02:20 - Valuation Tool
02:20 - 04:19 - Best Type R out there
04:20 - 04:27 - VTEC!!
04:27 - 10:13 - Lets put it on the lift
10:14 - 11:25 - What does Colin think?
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[@swanblake]

Having owned Type R and GSR of this vintage, I fully agree it is the best driving fwd car ever. That said, the prices people want for these is a bit kuch and I wouldnt pay it. Its a great car, but not a $50k experience. Something happening for a nice S2000. I blame BAT for these insane prices

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

S2K's are getting super pricey too!

[@MyGoToUserName]

The prices today ruin the ability to properly enjoy them for the majority. I had a 96 GSR and had a blast and drove it into the ground.(thanks to living in the salt belt)

[@michaelsiebs5143]

I currently own a 2001 and it is worth every penny the market is asking for these cars. Perfect fwd fun

[@ekscalybur]

These were attainably priced when new, were relatively rare, and insanely fun to drive without an automatic trip to jail. Add 2 decades plus to the mix listed above and the prices will do nothing but get insane. There are way more people that want them in this condition than there are available examples.

[@Petrospect]

Have you driven an EK9 Type R? Is it really that much better? I just thought it was alike the AE86 coupe and AE86 hatch and everyone wanting the hatch, just a different bodystyle.

[@ekscalybur]

These were faked so often, that back in the day the standard reaction to seeing the Type R badging was to doubt it.

[@redneck4528]

You mean the ultra rare four door with konig wheels

[@Alwaysgotthemunchies]

Real ones know to look at the 5 lug

[@DrBrainrape]

People werent trying to fake pass it off as a real one they were just paying g homage to the car

[@gixxr88]

Alot of parts are specific to the type r, and nowadays will cost way to much to do

[@touringteg]

I drove one in 2016 and bought it immediately. I couldn’t believe how cheap it was. I am on my second one now: 1998 Acura Integra Type R championship white. Fantastic cars. The VIN decals started in 1999 for Canada. I don’t think the rear strut tower brace was an option for North America. It was optional in Japan. I sold one recently.

[@andydhillon1977]

Just to clarify two things. The Type R was the best handling FWD car......at the time. The rear Strut tower bar that looks similar to the front one in the engine bay was not standard equipment. That bar was an option. I know a guy who has a 2001 with less than 20 miles on it. He bought it, drove it home, and put it on jackstands. Neat thing is he has anotger Type R he enjoys, too.

[@AaronAverett]

Correction: This is a third generation Integra. The second generation is from 1990 to 1993.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Correct! Is the 2nd generation your favorite?

[@reisen-5970]

The forgotten 1st gen... lol

[@AaronAverett]

@@WarriorsPhoto Yes. And by second gen, I mean the DA.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

@@reisen-5970 Sadly right. 😂

[@WarriorsPhoto]

@@AaronAverett I love the DA looks and it’s the beginning of VTEC. (:

[@doug4830]

I’m always interested to watch videos and reviews of the ITR as it’s one of my favourite cars to drive that I have driven thus far. I drove one when I was younger and was fortunate enough to buy another one before they were all the hype again. Like most cars, the stats and reviews are not going to do them as much justice as when you put miles on them behind the wheel. This car will put a smile on any car enthusiasts face because of the driving experience it gives you when you put it through the switchbacks at high rpms. For those of us that still own the cars of our youth, it’s a great way to go back in time and remember what it was like to just go for a drive! It doesn’t matter what you drive, all car enthusiasts share a similar passion that only we understand. Cheers.

[@koolkat969]

I own one now also after owning a few other Vtec engined cars. They're great as you describe. Not a lot of cars out there that can give the same raw driving experience!

[@californiacanyonsandbackro2109]

DC2 in the VIN actually means it's a 3rd-gen Integra coupe with a VTEC engine. All 3rd-gen Integra coupes sold in the US had twin-cam engines. Not all of them were equipped with VTEC. But the B18B powering the RS, GS, and LS trims was indeed a twin-cammer. A replacement engine doesn't necessarily mean it's a fake R, or it's been stolen. A lot of people blew up the original engines with a 5-2 misshift. One myth I've seen repeated a lot recently (not here) about this car is that the chassis was seam welded. It was not. The chassis is stiffer because Honda used thicker stampings in key areas, such as the roof rails and suspension towers. That, more than anything else, is what made the DC2R special. Another common myth is that the heads were "fully ported and polished by hand at the factory." Not true. The last bit of the intake ports were given some work near the valve, and while early cars were done by hand, they soon switched to using a machine. There is still quite a bit of power to be found in a B18C5 head with more port work.

[@michaelsiebs5143]

The car was seam welded in certain areas of the body. What is your proof that it is a myth. I own a 2001 type R and a 1997 integra rs both usdm. People need to stop criticizing when they assume facts just to feel good. Owning the type R is an honor until it goes to the next owner... the car is amazing

[@MrGrentch]

@@michaelsiebs5143 bit late to the party... 😁 They're not seam welded. That's an Internet Fact(c) that has become true with repetition. I've stripped a couple of them(my own to rust protect it, another to help cut rust out and a third rusted out one for parts for mine) and know what seam welding looks like. Honda's own marketing described the changes to the chassis(thicker panels, extra spot welds, etc) but _not_ seam welding. They're also correct regarding the hand port polishing. Only the early runs of JDM only DC2 R's(96 spec) had that, they switched to a dedicated machine, which sped up production(which was much slower than their non R lines) and got better results. And of course was cheaper. By the time they were released outside Japan(1998+) hand polishing ports was in the past. Then there's the crazy number of little and big differences between markets. It's kinda ironic that these days it's the USDM examples that fetch the biggest prices by far, yet were originally the cheapest, had the fewest 'extras' and were slightly down on power. They did get the centre console(can confirm it doesn't work great with the Recaros of other markets) and the cool plastic tray/divider in the rear seats. And for some odd reason got the EK9 R wheels. Canada got even weirder with red rear seats too. And then there were the 100 Swiss only examples in yellow with yellow Recaro's and yellow stitching...

[@fteoOpty64]

This car sure brings back memories. The on-Cam revs from 5500 to the 8350 redline is so fast, your shifts must be swift and precise, or you will bounce off the rev-liimiter!. Great car at the time, still great today if you can find a genuine one.

[@cameron3934]

Good luck finding a car in this shape. These old Hondas are almost always C L A P P E D. Great video by Hagerty though!

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Thats because most driving these Type R's were kids and they didnt have any care for it. Kinda like the 240sx, those were drift machines and torn to hell. Finding a clean one is rare. Im glad i still have my S14 and she is mint clean.

[@nhilist5774]

Younger people couldn't afford these

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@nhilist5774 well only the younger kids (under 25) were driving these cars. Along with the srt4's, wrx's, civics and the nissans.

[@nhilist5774]

@@ACommenterOnKZbin I'm sure base integral up to gsr but type rs weren't exactly cheap

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

@@nhilist5774 well we had a lot of rich boys with parents $$ ... I was between 25-30 when the street race scene was heavy. I had a full time job and worked for my cars and parts.

[@whygodrums10]

I cannot believe we are at a point where a fast and the furious type car is now being dissected as a future classic on the same level as something on Barrett Jackson. I’m happy it is, I’m just shocked.

[@endlesstwisties]

This was not some F&F car like ignorant people think. This car was faster than any RWD in the same specs on most race tracks.

[@whygodrums10]

@@endlesstwisties I was simply over exaggerating the fact. I like those Type R integras. Performance Hondas are great little cars.

[@markhormann]

I had the pleasure of owning a 1999 ITR DC2 here in Melbourne (Australia).... in which I clocked up 165,000 kms (from new) & enjoyed 13 track days during my 5.5 years of driving nirvana. I was utterly addicted to the VTEC scream of the B18C engine, the wonderfully slick gearbox, dynamic handling & complete package of Honda engineering. Even 17 years on & after driving many higher spec cars, the memories of the DC2 remain as some of my best driving experiences ==> I would buy another one anytime, for future track fun!

[@dozorca]

Jason Cammisa needs to re-do this review...

[@Swerve1982]

Agreed!!!!!

[@pimpovic2]

Agreed

[@racer14glr91]

Having owned a 2001 GS-R, the final Integra was probably the best FF car. I do wish I still had it,or wish I got a ITR in 2001 instead of a Jetta.

[@euphrentic]

In high school, I was berated by all the domestic car fan boys for being obsessed with Honda back in the 90s. They all FINALLY get it.

[@dylanjordan31]

I used to run back roads in my SER, with an S2000 and an itr. All 3 in yellow. Good times. All 3 were great handling cars but the ITR is just special and in its own class. Always will be. Great video

[@xekret]

Saw a guy driving his Integra Type-R at a gas station and had to give the man props. It was yellow too!

[@chesspiece81]

When these were new a guy used to race one at the local drag strip with just an open header and when the VTEC came on with the open header it sounded like it had been hit with a 100shot of nitrous because of how much the tone and behavior of the engine would change.

[@animalmother4]

We will never see affordable high revving NA cars ever again.

[@tamegaming1768]

Emissions. We've taken care of smog but they're getting ever stricter like the heads up top think it's gonna make a difference.

[@mattdirks7896]

Probably. I'm hoping that some of the heat on them dies down and some of us less wealthy folks still get a chance, however unlikely that may be...

[@izzy031096]

2zzge prices are still reasonable and are even more fun.

[@VirtualGuth]

Most likely, until a date is set for eliminating the ICE from our roads that is. People who truly enjoy driving these cars will likely hang on to them until the very end, driving them for as long as they can. But there are plenty of folks who have only been buying such cars as investments. I'm guessing that they'll be wanting to cut their losses as that date nears. When that starts to happen, prices overall will drop dramatically.

[@amirnaim3675]

What about miata?

[@johnjuarez8005]

The car with 4K original miles. A little back story on that would be great. Let's hear it damn it!

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I agree he missed a great story there. Maybe it’ll be in another Hagerty episode?

[@pyroglyphicsglass]

Those stories are always horrible. Either someone rich never used it, someone died, or even worse, it was parked and stared at by some nerd who was scared to damage it

[@LAwrx03]

@@pyroglyphicsglass Nailed it. No one wants to hear about how some guy bought it new and stored it away as an investment instead of actually enjoying it.

[@Dcc357]

It was only 12 miles until it got stolen.

[@jameswillard1]

The car belongs to American Honda Corporation. It’s a car that is in their press fleet.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

Prelude SH had a higher slalom speed. True shame it never got the Type R treatment. I prefer the Prelude line as the all time pinnacle of Honda FWD. Classy, elegant, good torque, sound and comfort. Handling second to none, can't forget the 4 wheel steering versions too 😉

[@endlesstwisties]

These ITR fanboys are slow minded . They just can't see further than ITR and CTR .In Best Motoring togue version Jun Prelude destroyed any FWD Honda and even the S2000 in the class. The only advantage stock ITR has over Prelude is stiffer springs. Engine is weaker , handling worst, much uglier car and 10 times more expensive.

[@joraw1]

That car is so smooth .we hit 145 mph on a completed stock one ..great handling ..if you know you know

[@Ragnarok043]

ive always wanted an Integra Type R, problem was so did every thief hahaha

[@jaydub5515]

I had a GSR, and it was great. So smooth. I was always more of a 4th Gen. Prelude guy, buy my 'teg was a much more nimble ride, as a stock ride.

[@abdulazizsaleh9567]

I used to have this car ... was on of my Best Memory on it....thanks for this Episode 👍🏻👌🏻🧡

[@robertsothmann8110]

That Bseries hard vtec switchover is an iconic sonic experience.

[@e688699]

I had a white one in Australia MY00. Mugen exhaust, lighten flywheel and high flow cat, K&N intake filter and guess what, a specialist deliberately made a dent in a gold little thing in that engine bay and my car was like the fastest in Sydney. He never explained it but hell I had 222hp at the wheel. The throttle response his dent made was unbelievable.

[@MikeS42069]

For a dude that's supposed to be the expert he sure doesn't know how many generations of Integra there were lol

[@BeingMe23]

It's not a expert. Only talking about the vehicle in the video. 🤔

[@sdi1111]

My 1999 JDM Integra Type R (Australian Import) does not come with a rear back seat brace. Championship White comes with red Recaro seats. Horsepower (198) and compression (11:1) is slightly increased versus the US model. Rear wiper is standard. I've owned my car since new and clocked 330,000Kms without touching the motor. It has cost me virtually nothing to run over the past 25 years. I rev it regularly to 9,000rpm. I'm looking for a large plot, so we can be buried together. Without doubt, this car is something very special.

[@mry82]

PRELUDE was the big brother and never got the attention it deserved!

[@xxCablexx]

used to see Integras all day back in the day, hardly see them now but when I do it looks so beautiful, would love to get one but only if I had the money to keep it from getting stolen, anyways love the Type R so legendary!

[@VirtualGuth]

Agreed. Though the ITR has always been revered for the driving experience it offered, its star shines as bright as it does today in part because of how well the design has aged. While Honda still had a few beautiful designs left in them after this generation of the Integra, they were far and few between and have been long gone for some time now. (Although to be fair, this doesn't apply just to Honda and in most cases you can chalk this up to increasingly strict safety regulations placed upon designers.)

[@jameswillard1]

Have lots of experience with driving the Integra Type R (owned a 1998) and everyone is always saying it’s the best handling FWD car as if it was so much better than anything else and that’s where I’d have to disagree...... if it is indeed better than everything else ever made then it’s not by much when compared to other great handling FWD cars. For example...2002-2006 Mini Cooper S, 2014-2019 Fiesta ST, and 1997-2011 Prelude SH were all about as good (I’m know there’s more I didn’t mention) and in my opinion the best handling FWD car I’ve driven is the 2017-2021 Civic Type R which stays far more neutral and has less on throttle understeer than any FWD car I’ve ever driven all while having a level of communication through the wheel that Honda’s of the 90’s/2000’s lacked. Ofcourse, none of those cars have an 8,400RPM redline or were produced in as limited numbers but I think it should regarded as having “one of the best” FWD chassis ever if you want to be accurate

[@devl547]

>everyone is always saying it’s the best handling FWD car Renault Clio RS: hold my glass of wine

[@TheFK8Life]

Love my FK8 - next level handling

[@SLAMG1]

I remember when I bought a brand new type R exact color yellow I had it for two days and IT GOT Stolen from my driveway 😔

[@MsMam619]

Saludos Tengo un Acura integra GS-R del año 1994 totalmente original y es v-tec de fabrica y realmente me salio super bueno y sobretodo corre muy bien y con mucha fuerza nunca e abierto el motor. De verdad tremendo auto.

[@AnotherMotorist]

The b18c motors are legit. Even back in 2012 era there were a huge number of well taken care examples exceeding 200k original motor with many track and commute miles.

[@Dalamain]

yeaaaaaah I'll come back and watch when Camissa reviews it, byeee!

[@Slickpete83]

*now do 1997-2001 Honda Prelude, buy a Prelude now before prices increase*

[@VirtualGuth]

The 3rd generation Prelude was always the most aesthetically pleasing to my eyes. But discounting the looks (and understanding that such things are subjective anyway), those 5th gen SH cars in particular seem pretty impressive. Regardless of what generation you're talking about, Preludes have already been appreciating for quite some time now.

[@endlesstwisties]

@@VirtualGuth 3rd gen had wierd type of engines. Not matching any other Hondas and not so powerful. H is all that matters

[@DestinysComputer]

I had a chance to buy one of these for $10,000CAD back in 2011. Man, do I ever regret not pulling the trigger. These things have shot up so much in price recently they're basically unobtainium. Ended up getting an RSX Type S, which was a great car but it's no Type R.

[@JamR0ck]

I have owned 1996 integra type R- right hand drive, 1992 toyota starlet with original and 4AGE swap engine, 1994 toyota Levin supercharged and Nissan Pulsar Gtr.

[@Esteb858]

Another specific detail on the Type-R was the rear lower control arm was different compared to the GS-R and other lower models. The Type-R used a eyelet style lower shock mount in the rear instead of the fork style mount found on all other Integra models of the same years. A detail that’s often missed, especially when someone is trying to pass one off as a real Type-R when it is not.

[@JEFFKINGS]

Excellent video on the glory years of the Type R. Sadly the new Integra Type R looks like some kind of SUV crossover type abomination, which is incredibly disappointing, given the slew of "reinvisioned" sports cars of old that have re-released in the last couple years.

[@xapaiz]

As an alternative, in the US you can pick a Civic Si B16 EM1, in Europe and some other regions the Civic VTi B16 EG6 or EK4. Those will give B-series experience, great chassis with double wishbones at the front

[@ariel_kirkwood]

Just picked up a 97 del Sol VTEC; I love its B16A2!

[@JasonSmith-ki6xl]

Owned a 1995 Integra GSR back in 2001 to 2003. Wish I would of never sold it. I've owned over 25 vehicles since then and had the most memories in the GSR.

[@brarautorepairs]

The exhaust was stainless steel and was 0.25 inches larger than the GSR. You can clearly see the differences in the exhaust.

[@christophertownley6734]

Interesting. This car was commonplace in england. I drove several and the crx before it. I drove the mr2 gen 1 and 2. I had so much fun....driving my Citroen Saxo in comparison

[@DavidMorales008]

Excellent

[@michaelsiebs5143]

I'm glad i own my black 2001usdm acura integra type R, its a proper track weapon. Great braking and handling with go fast styling. Its a proper investment, a car that orginally sold in the USA for $25,000.00 about 20 years ago now selling for 2.5 to more that 3 times its orginal market value is a legend in my book. No other car expect exotics, old muscle cars and high end cars have that market appeal and appreciation.

[@VirtualGuth]

This isn't meant to discredit the ITR in any way (I certainly wouldn't argue against its status as a legendary car). However, I believe that you can find plenty of other examples of cars showing similar levels of appreciation these days (other than exotics, muscle cars and high-end offerings).

[@michaelsiebs5143]

@@VirtualGuth ok... name 5? Im waiting...name 5 apart from the itr and the categories of cars you mentioned that command appreciation/appraisal pricing and value more than what it originally sold for? I'm interested.

[@VirtualGuth]

​@@michaelsiebs5143 I would start with a couple of other Honda's: the S2000 CR and the CRX Si. Beyond that there are cars like the Datsun 240Z, the Toyota Supra MK.4, the Mazda RX7 FD. The BMW 2002tii qualifies. Then there are the old pickups. Look at how much 1960's Chevy C10's are selling for as an example (some of them sell for enough that you could buy two ITR's for the same money). I've even seen really clean, original examples of mid 70's Toyota Celica's selling for insane money these days. I'm sure that there are plenty of other examples - you can find them yourself with a simple search. As I mentioned, my comment wasn't intended to take anything away from the ITR, but used car prices are just nuts these days and that has impacted countless cars because "they don't build them like they used to" has never been more true than it is now. The lifespan of today's cars before they are considered obsolete won't likely be much longer than that of a laptop computer. On top of that, the days of the internal combustion engine are rapidly dwindling. People want to enjoy the cars they most desire while they still can. For plenty of people out there, that doesn't mean anything that you can buy at a dealership today.

[@michaelsiebs5143]

@@VirtualGuth ok do you currently own any of those cars you mentioned? I own a 2001 acura integra type R number 401. The car is highly valued for a reason. All those cars you mentioned are mostly rear wheel drive and are in different classes. My front wheel drive is the best ever for its drive train layout. The amount sold also is why the value is high... thanks for you comment.

[@VirtualGuth]

​@@michaelsiebs5143 I previously owned a CRX Si many, many years ago. But I've always had a thing for roadsters. These days I own a base model S2000. Even though the S2000 has almost doubled in value in under five years, I've never looked at it (or any of my other cars or motorcycles) as an investment.

[@zackklapman3569]

It really is an amazing car.

[@sohistoriatriste9428]

Sound wonderful 🫀

[@righteousred723]

My weedealer drove one of these in high school, until he had it impounded for driving w.o insurance

[@fhowland]

I have a 2008 Civic SI and like to think it’s at least something close to the ITR experience. As soon as I test drove it I had to have it. Owned her since 2009.

[@TheFK8Life]

Its nothing like an R I own and Fa5 and FK8 The later cars are heavier, longer wheelbase and lack the viceral conmection the R has with the driver The FK8 is better on paper in everyway over the DC2 but can never be the simple thrill ride the Integra was. Bygone era

[@jessicaquinones2700]

My favorite car ever

[@richardmahoney9415]

I won’t argue the statement in this title

[@RandyWillcox]

The phrase "concourse ready example" used in conjunction with this car makes me chuckle *almost* as much as the price equated with it. I bet every teenager that trashed one of these with hack mods is kicking themselves now. It's a shame the car was made so well but still looked like that. And to think, that "yellow" isn't faded. It looked like that new.

[@baxlife334]

I remember when my friend took me in his brand new 2001 Acura Interga Type R back in high school on the curvy backroads of NH. The cars engine with Vtec in Hondas B18 engine was perfect sounding.

[@danapeck5382]

S. Honda's influence was profound.

[@danapeck5382]

@TwinTurbo Ray Thanks. I meant Soichiro Honda's influence on the company's design philosophy and his commitment to high performance. Amazing guy.

[@josedusol]

but he is dead now, and Honda is now the most conservative thing there can be

[@there_is_nothing_here]

people went bananas for these things in SoCal back in the late 90s

[@gixxr88]

Such a fun, engaging, and super reliable car, will never sell mine, definitely more than its sum of parts, any true car person needs to own this car in thier life time.

[@knocksensor3203]

You definitely cannot say reliability in other performance cars..

[@purepalm9078]

Acura cars are criminally under appreciated.

[@joeishere500]

My boy in highshool had this brand new back in the day

[@HerrPoopschitz]

...and Acuras going to release a new Integra soon to dilute the legend.

[@granolatimes7185]

I think the steady March of improving safety standards(weight everywhere) has all but eliminated this type of lightweight, relatively low power sports car. Miatas have gained about 300lbs over their production life for perspective.

[@CruiseControl1]

I own a decedent of this beautiful machine. A 2009 Honda Civic SI Coupe in Orange Pearl. Back roads or on track this car puts a smile on my face.

[@alexp6409]

8th gen Si is the best Si!

[@CruiseControl1]

@@alexp6409 I agree, I have a 19mm Eibach rear sway bar and with the 2 inch shorter wheelbase on the coupe vs the sedan it really helps rotate the back end around. Plus using the Scandinavian Flick helps. I really enjoyed tracking it this summer at PPIR. Next up is a set of 280 tread Nitto Neo Gen tires in a 225 width. Install my track pads, change to high temp brake fluid and then save up for Hondata, intake, header with high flow cat and finally Dyno tuning and it will be complete. I'm guessing about 195whp on the Dynojet once it's all said and done. It will never win a straight line race but will hold it's own on a high corner track. Will be taking it to High Plains Raceway when it's all done.

[@BryanW916]

5:22 i thought ALL integras in that generation were DOHC? The LS/GS just didn't have VTEC. Did he mean to say it has VTEC?

[@dln.sweeney]

Pretty much yeah. There were single cam Integras sold overseas but all Acura models had B series engines.

[@BryanW916]

@@dln.sweeney That's what i thought. Wasn't sure though lol

[@feelthatfeelthat]

An amazing car! So many in here commenting about little nerdy facts that the general people watching this wouldn't care about...we should praise the car

[@reisen-5970]

0:58 most unenthusiastic and weakest "VTEC YOOO!" I ever heard lol

[@ae86fiend]

Everyone I know who owned a Type R prefers the DC2 than EK9.

[@flyonbyya]

He says.. “ if it doesn’t have 5 lug wheels…you should ask why “ I say.. “ Walk Away ! “

[@diegocharcas690]

Remember those old memes that made fun of finding a barn find honda back in 2015. Oh how times have changed.

[@terryorcutt8739]

I like Colin, but I would love to see more of these with Sam Smith

[@dln.sweeney]

Same. Especially since Sam owns or owned a PY ITR just like this.

[@cobracolin]

Interesting fact: Sam Smith bought his PY ITR from me.

[@_Zekken]

96 spec JDM Models have 4 lug wheels. But of course that also is RHD and has the straight style headlights. Also, interestingly, my own JDM Type R doesn't have the rear strut brace, nor do I think it ever had one. It has the one right on the rear panel, but not the strut tower. Interesting.

[@danielslavy6694]

I really loved mine. It was a rebuilt title car, however, it was done well and drove excellent. Unsurprisingly, it was stolen from me and gutted to the shell for parts. 😔

[@BreakStuffClub]

I had a 2000 GS-R and really enjoyed it. Also had a 1993 Olds Achieva SCX and it was quicker and handled better than the Integra.

[@idozen13]

Q. Are only the jdm spec’d itr’s received 4 lugs on their early years? I don’t recall about the USDM cars..

[@TheFK8Life]

1996 ITRs got 4 lugs - USDM came in 97 with 5

[@oldskool1979]

That motor in a CRX with a suspension and sticky tires and have fun !

[@revvolutions]

And that's exactly what thieves said, on their way to steal an integra type r

[@jahblessin3996]

Classic JDM. Always wanted one

[@j.3854]

That VTEC pull was painful. When someone that doesn’t know how to drive, smashed throttle instead of squeezing it. So you here that vroom and then it bogs. SMH.

[@Bushwackerinpa]

All integra ever sold in america were twin cam motors. D16 ZC 86-89, and B18 variants from 90-01.

[@macthemec]

Back in the day having this car you were cooler than Vin Diesel. I think most of them succumbed to understeer crashes. Up next how about the last gen prelude? Hard to find them even harder unmodified.

[@evilboxing1]

Back in the 90s my friend had a GSR version. His house Im not joking was literally right next to a police station…. Car was stolen within a couple of months of ownership right in front of his house.

[@willjam465]

No mention of the fact they seam-welded the chassis on the ITR? Surprised, as that goes quite a ways to the handling…which was mentioned repeatedly. Good review, though.

[@mickl8212]

Nope, no seam welding on the DC2 ITR. It's a myth. I own a 1998 ITR by the way and have had it stripped to a bare shell, there's absolutely no seam welding on there. Extra spot welds and reinforcement in some areas but no seam welds....

[@willjam465]

@@mickl8212 interesting. That is the first I have ever heard that. Appreciate you sharing your experience with one. I guess I stand corrected.

[@MrGrentch]

@@mickl8212 Yep. I also have a 98 spec(JDM) and have looked at a few stripped ones over the years. Extra spot welds, thicker metal in some panels yes, but not seam welded. The JDM only EK9 Civic R had some seam welding alright(nice car, engine great on paper, not so much in practice). Another part myth is that the engines were ported by hand. That was only the case in the very early JDM 96 examples. Honda quickly went to machine porting as it was more efficient and better than the human version. I've even seen a genuine JDM 99 that had no obvious porting. Honda's catalogues still showed a pic of a guy hand porting but that was dubious advertising.

[@MrGrentch]

@@willjam465 To be fair to you Wiiljam pretty much every review and most owners say the same.

[@slicktop2jz855]

If the 95 civic i drove once was anything to go by, Id say definitely. Never been in a car that was basically a go kart until that....

[@ti1ion]

I had a 95 Civic Si (EX in the US). Loved that car.

[@ivanjovanovic362]

Can you do this for every car?

[@stevewallace1387]

I owned a new TYPR R last year i would like to see these 2 cars tested together

[@aluszewski02151]

After Magnus , Colin is the coolest guy on hagerty. Hes the living wikipedia of car journalism. Keep it up 👍🏼🚙

[@peteygonemadarts4765]

I love my 97 Integra. I was never a Honda guy . Actually I was guy always picking on tuners while cruising v8 street machines . I bought my 97 non vtec b18b1 powered RS with intent of flipping it to buy a 61 Chevy Belair Flat top . Now mine has a lot of money in it . The power band, unlike vtec , has no lateral lag . It's stupid quick with all the engine mods ( soon it's gonna have a full race spec head to match better with spoon spec built lower end ) . It does have the 97 type r 5 speed and stock 97 gsr rotors and calipers to stop it . It has a full street/track exhaust bolted to stock header and dropped with full skunk 2 kit . It's ugly as sin but no one ever expects it at a light LOL . Any of these Integra coupes are worth the experience of owning and as a former Honda hater ... I'm not letting my teggy go without a fight . I even gave up my Belair Flat Top to keep mine 🙃

[@TheFK8Life]

lateral lag lmfao

[@peteygonemadarts4765]

@@TheFK8Life Why is that funny 🤣 Most cars have a point in their RPM range where they stall . For example VTec , at least older ones , has strong pull but then lags for a point then start pulling again . Even old muscle cars do it . Turbos used to be really bad at it . BMWs actually were revered for have such smooth acceleration with no lateral stall 🤔 It's might just be like many things they use different terms for it today . I actually had to explain to someone how guys used to drop the rear suspension of cars to reduce suspension travel off the line to gain reaction times off the line . Modern suspensions have taken much of that out of equation but old hot rods and muscle cars had different suspension set ups . Many old Chevelles and Judges used to be seen with squatted rear to make them quicker . Moonshiners are the original tuners in these aspects. 😉

[@TheFK8Life]

@@peteygonemadarts4765 Lateral means sideways - you have no clue what you are talking about

[@TheFK8Life]

@@peteygonemadarts4765 VTEC engines never lag unless there is an issue with the mixture - timing/fuel A properly dyno tuned vtec engine uses the correct crossover point for vtec to engage - in many high lift cam setups the crossover is higher - whereas stock cams can be set to cross over to vtec engagement lower than stock My Type R engine loved 4000 vs the stock 6000 - I gained 33ftlbs from that change and alot more useable midrange in the process. Spoon is overpriced 4Piston easily makes more power and holds more world records than Spoon ever will. Spoon is a name mostly - decent parts but they charge way too much for off the shelf components you can get for less. Like the cam sprockets - spoons version is more even though Toda makes them....the Toda version is already high quality but people will pay more because spoon slaps their name on Toda cam sprockets.

[@peteygonemadarts4765]

@@TheFK8Life but see you just said same point . Engine WHEN DYNO TUNED doesn't have the lag . Stock they have that very identifiable stall point during the kick over . I agree a TUNED vtec engine is a formidable challenge for my non vtec build but I've never had a stock vtec out perform me off the line . Actually I can't think of any stock car , except exotic high end cars , that have taken my car off the line . I imagine if I went against a pro drag racer they might take me off the line with the right stock car but that's an exception not a daily rule . I gotta admit though , while I might someday build a vtec tuner I will never tire of my non vtec monster . From 1000 rpm through 8200 it consistently pulls and everyone who's ever been in it is amazed . I love that little car ... prior to it I was diehard v8 muscle . I truly appreciate Hondas now . I still love the thrill of big v8 power too but they'll bury me in my Teggy 🤣

[@VirtualGuth]

As the era of the internal combustion engine winds down, the level of performance found in many of today's ICE-based vehicles is remarkable. They are certainly measurably better than cars like this ITR. Yet the very technology enabling such performance in today's vehicles has robbed them of the connection that existed between man and machine in cars of the past. That incredibly visceral connection was a big part of what makes the ITR so revered and can't be measured in terms of raw performance. As the elimination of the ICE from our roads nears, prices for such cars will only continue to rise.

[@Treaxvour]

Don't talk like we're defeated just yet.. the world will know of china's scam of electric vehicles soon. It is not for the good of the planet. Until the whole world is ran on nuclear energy, they are NOT cleaner. It's for the good of politicians pockets. When the world opens their eyes, we will go back to ICE and EV will be like a bad nightmare. Use your voice, Use your votes. Save the Congo from child slavery fueled by EV lust.

[@JawtagsGT]

The lack of a sunroof and body side moldings isn’t an ITR exclusive thing. Same the VIN decals.

[@josephvincent7912]

Body positive!!

[@knocksensor3203]

Like Porsches 911 , Honda should had continued production of this wondrous little car. Leave all it glorious performance.. engine , suspension, light weightiness, even body style.. and just moderately, progressively, change it thru the years, here and there (tweak)..possibly adding carbon fiber,aluminum ,magnesium,better aerodynamics..

[@Ed_Garage]

3rd Generation Integra not 2nd

[@stevensnyder1511]

THANK YOU!

[@blue_lancer_es]

Everyone forgets the 86-89 sadly.

[@pyroglyphicsglass]

Great car but the VR6 gtis and Jetta’s were my flavor of N/a front wheel drive

[@izzy031096]

Vr6 is an awesome engine. I’ve owned both a mk4 and mk5 R32, both were amazing cars. The mk4 felt that little bit more special with chunkier seats and steering wheel, as well as being 6spd manual. The exhaust note was slightly better in the mk4 as well, just less creature comforts given the age.

[@johnthornton6650]

It’s all about the money. The owner of that 4K mile car is the one responsible for the RIDICULOUS prices you see today with the ITR

[@muffdiver4973]

The is one on bring a trailer bidding at 40K with 100k miles at the moment.

[@muffdiver4973]

@Yippee Skippy totally agree with you.

[@Levish01]

not many cars at this price point use SLA. I wish more would.

[@DoctorJay184]

Interesting video. It's just a pity that so little of the information contained within this video has any relevance outside of the U.S.A.

[@MrGrentch]

The prices certainly don't, but even beyond the US values have gone nuts in the last two years. Plus that rear strut brace was an option through Honda Acess and IIRC wasn't even an option on the US Acura examples. The US(and Canada) got the short end of the deal with these too. Civic R wheels, no titanium gear knob, no Recaros, no Momo steering wheel, no console delete and a slightly detuned engine. It's ironic that they're now the most valuable in the world at least in that market. What's kinda mad about these cars is how there were so many "local" differences depending on region. Different headlights and front of course, but four different rear light clusters, different engine covers, wheels and real rarities(100 made) like the Swiss only yellow with yellow recaros and stitching, or the Canadian ones with red back seats. I've a silver 98 JDM, a colour only ever available in Japan(though even there didn't sell well at all). A world car they were not. Even madder when Honda lost money on each one they sold.

[@tresjolieme81]

my Celica 92 was stuck trying to come up around a dirt road on a mountain top, my sisters front drive 97 Integra got right up lol . I still dont think it was as pretty as my car though.

[@canyonero2050]

You cant ever convince me that i need a $70k integra i cant even drive but once a year.

[@dln.sweeney]

I love Hondas and the ITR especially but the values have climbed to really stupid heights.

[@canyonero2050]

@@dln.sweeney yes i had a minty 1993 prelude vtec for years. It was one of my favorite cars ever to drive and ive owned quite a few cars. Id love to find a minty 1993 azure green Honda prelude vtec 5spd manual with black leather interior and low miles.

[@dln.sweeney]

@@canyonero2050 4th gen Prelude is a criminally underrated car.

[@lordgriselbrand4600]

obviously you don't "need" any 70k$ vehicle...Think you missed the point lol

[@ayowser01]

I'd take a full Mugen ITR over a completely stock one 😜

[@pv4083]

I love how the VTEC engages and then trees move at the same speed ..that being said I would totally buy one ..like they say..”you should of been there “

[@93455Driver]

I think that the Red Badged Civics and Integra Type Rs are among the best FWDs, but in order to make bold claims about their standing you have to factor in the French nutty FWDs that never made it to the US. Both Renault and Pug made some awesome cars, though none had VTEC they were handlers and relative bargains (though not sure how well their build quality stood the test of time).