The IRA: Davy's Podcast - Episode 3

[@peterryan1257]

Very beneficial to me Davy. Thanks

[@aislingclardy4026]

My great grandfather Frank Perdue of Rosegreen is in that photo of the 1st Battalion of the 3rd Tipperary Brigade. Front row, 4th from the left

[@huwjones3347]

Davy - I live in England, although I have a Celtic background. Throughout my schooling from 1972-1986 there was no mention whatsoever of the Irish War of Independence. As far as I was taught, the British were involved in WW1 and WW2, but nothing in between. This is a shameful omission, and only serves to reinforce my belief that I was only taught the history that suited the former empire's agenda.

[@rufuscrackle]

My cousin grew up in England but the family is from Glin, Co Limerick he said almost nothing was taught about the famine. Like here in US where it's one line in the history book in school.

[@lokiprepper]

They do the same crap here in the states. They talk about the major conflicts that the United States fought with its allies, including the UK, but they never talk about the wars and conflicts that the United States fought in Latin America and other places in order to secure cheap produce, and to enrich American corporations. I think it’s more important now than ever to dig into history for ourselves to learn who our governments truly are.

[@Scotia6261]

The British still won't admit their casualties at the battle of Crossbarry where 1300 troops had 104 IRA surrounded but were hammered and retreated whilst still receiving organised volleys of rifle fire from the IRA.This was last time pipes were played in battle in Ireland .

[@davyholden]

The term ‘War of Independence’ doesn’t exist in England. England never admitted it was a war. They labelled the IRA as terrorists and treated it as a policing issue. If they labelled it as an actual war, most of the world would have had Ireland’s back.

[@Scotia6261]

@@davyholden We have partial independence ,the volunteers that died from 1916 to the ceasefire didn't fight and die for 26 counties ....remember the 1918 election.

[@russellhogan2708]

Thanks Davy. I’m an old retired US Hogan (family origin Borrisokane, Co. Tipperary)& appreciate greatly your warm & personal pieces. Hope to visit in next couple years & will see some of the sites you’ve highlighted. Thanks again.

[@zakariyashakir4091]

It is sad this beautiful country has experienced a lot of war. I wish to see my Irish unity in my lifetime as a Kurd I support a united Ireland 🇮🇪

[@sandidavis820]

Davy, learning about more Irish History is the highlight of my day. I look forward to learning more and you are the best teacher I have ever found. Keep up the great work, once again, thank you, Davy.

[@davyholden]

Thank you so much 💚

[@jamesdeery1084]

Tom Barry in his book Guerrilla War in Ireland, he speaks about raiding coastguard post for arms and capturing Ross rifles. Accurate weapons but difficult to maintain , I have also come across references to various different rifles and a report of one flying column have 15 different rifles types each with different ammunition.

[@davyholden]

There were also even some Tommy Guns arriving towards the very end. In or around 200 of them arrived.

[@karlbarry6004]

Thanks davey i taught i knew all about the year 1179 to 1922 you are so full of knowledge about our country I'm a proud irishman i would like to shake your hand and say thank you for brining all our history back to the people thanks Davey

[@davidleonard37]

Really enjoying your podcasts Davy. 2 of my great uncles O'Reillys served in the Dublin brigade and went on to serve in the Irish free state army afterwards. There was a division in the family in the civil war as was common and they think one of my uncles was passing information to the IRA and I've seen the army file on it but it seemed to be covered up. My granny had memories of the black and tans raiding her house for guns. She was terrified and they seemingly had some guns in the house and were lucky they weren't found. My other granny also remembered the black and tans in Wexford. Not fond memories obviously.

[@davidryan2849]

My Grandfather 's cousin is Thomas Ryan. He was shot in Tipperary on bloody sunday.

[@johnahern4345]

Well done and thank you Davy!

[@davyholden]

Thank you John!

[@bradmathis5175]

One of the RIC officers at the Soloheadbeg Ambush was my great great grandfather Constable James McDonnell

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

Thanks for that mate. I`m a Aussie of mainly Irish descent and would like if you could do something on the 1798 uprising or maybe the 9 years` war

[@davyholden]

Absolutely. I’ll have a lot of content coming on 1798 in the near future 😊

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

@@davyholden Cool mate

[@professorditchdigger6893]

Kelp up the great work! I love learning from you.

[@davyholden]

Thank you!

[@michaelmolachaan5693]

Hi I hope all is well with you all!

[@schizoidboy]

One weapon that was associated with the IRA was the Thompson submachine gun. I heard Michael Collins got a demonstration of the weapon and it continued to be used by later incarnations of the IRA. There are pictures of the gun appearing in the later Troubles. Also I heard that there were a number of Irish Volunteers in the British Army prior to the war of independence. As I understand it John Redmond, one of the leader for Home Rule encouraged members of the Irish Volunteers to enlist in the British Army during WWI. It wouldn't surprise me if certain member who were stationed in Ireland during the war didn't make certain stocks "disappear" from the armories at the time. Keep in mind after the war a good number of veterans from the war returned to Ireland and joined the IRA, case in point Tom Barry.

[@davyholden]

That’s right! I believe the IRA in Dublin received about 200 Thompsons towards the end of the war

[@johnroche7541]

You have made some points that have more than a merit of truth. If I may I will expand a bit. The Thompson Sub Machine Gun was manufactured in the USA and was seen as an ideal weapon for the confines of trench warfare. It was produced but by the time it came into production the First World War had ended. The following is a historical fact. The Thompson Sub Machine Gun made it's military debut in Dublin in the summer of 1921. The IRA attacked a troop train in June 1921 which killed one soldier Pte Saunders of the West Kent regiment but he actually died of wounds from a grenade fragment. The IRA were the first to use the Thompson Machine gun in actual combat. Likewise the British were the first to be on the receiving end in a conflict. Frustratingly this historic fact is never mentioned in books or documentaries dedicated to this iconic weapon. It is the usual story in books and documentaries that this weapon was produced too late to be used in WW1 and next it becomes associated with the Chicago Gangster Wars. As I stated the IRA were the first army to use in a conflict. Two Irish American US Army Officers brought over a few to Dublin in May 1921. Tom Barry was the man who fired the gun in the demonstration for Michael Collins in May 1921. Only a couple of Thompsons made into Ireland in the summer of 1921. With the greatest respect Davy's figure of 200 is way too high. Collins purchased 500 and they would have been sent to Ireland but US Customs discovered them at Hoebroken,New Jersey and they were confiscated. They became more prevalent in the Irish Civil War. Hundreds of IRA men were veterans of WW1 including my grandfather. If you analyse the Irish War of Independence from a strictly military point of view you will find it is no coincidence that the best IRA units had Great War veterans in the ranks. Also the biggest IRA victories in the conflict were either planned by an IRA veteran of WW1 or they played a crucial role in their success. The following ambushes confirm it. Rineen,Kilmichael,Clonfin,Dromkeen,Crossbarry,Headford Junction, Carrowkennedy. There was 5 IRA men who were decorated for bravery in WW1 including a Victoria Cross recipient. The most successful IRA Field Commander in the conflict was Tom.Barry who served with the Royal Field Artillery in WW1. Emmet Dalton served with the 9th Bn Royal Dublin Fusiliers and was awarded the Military Cross for bravery at Guichy in September 1916 during the latter stages of the Battle of the Somme. He held the post of Director of Training at the IRA GHQ in Dublin. He was part of the unit that failed to resue IRA Officer Sean McEoin from prison in Dublin in May 1921. His brother Charlie Dalton took part in the Bloody Sunday 21st November 1920 assassinations carried out in Dublin. Emmet would play a crucial role in the Irish Civil War and was the brainchild of the seaborne landings behind the "IRA's Munster Republic". He was with Michael Collins when the latter was KIA in August 1922. In later life Emmet would find Ardmore Film Studios where many Hollywood films were made. A couple of IRA men had served with the US Army in WW1. One of these was John Prout. He served with the famous "New York 69th Regiment"(Fighting 69th) which was part of the AEF(American Expeditionary Force). He would be awarded the Crois De Guerre for bravery. He served with the Tipperary IRA during the Irish War of Independence. He would be a high ranking officer in the Free state Army where he would distinguish himself in the Irish Civil War. I have researched and studied both wars for over 20 years. Hope this is helpful.

[@schizoidboy]

I'd have to say rather immensely helpful, thank you.@@johnroche7541

[@Brix96]

I was told by a old man who told me he was involved in this war,he related that once he was in a gunfight with british forces in a street when he heard a voice calling him,it was his cousin a member of the british army saying get behind me get behind me,so his life was saved,it could be a tall tale but i do know there was always a strong relationship in that family even 50 years later,so perhaps there was something in it.

[@steray7590]

Great bit of history again davey your Knowledge is great 😂

[@davyholden]

Thank you!

[@xXtimesplitterxX]

Id like your review on the film "The wind that shakes the barley".

[@xXtimesplitterxX]

Half of my family came to the US because of the violence in Ireland.

[@xXtimesplitterxX]

In the 30s

[@Scotia6261]

Dan Keating the last member of the old IRA to die was brought to see it and said it was accurate.He died in 2007 and shots from the C.I.R.A. whom he supported were later fired over his grave.

[@davyholden]

Amazing. I’ll do that 😊

[@kathleensiemion5108]

Great video. Bhain mé sult as. I would love a video where you talk specifically about Cumann na mBan.

[@davyholden]

I will definitely do one in the future!

[@worldnews3040]

Yup

[@ohno2112]

Micheal collins try to get 500 hundred machine guns from America, only 5 made it to Ireland! There is a IRA war bond from the 1860’s in McSorely pub in nyc….

[@BlenderWeasel]

What kind of shotguns were most common? Winchester 1887s, Winchester 1897s, Double Barrel Shotguns (I don’t know a lot about Double Barrel Shotguns)?

[@titanscerw]

Hello Davy, the 38 caliber revolvers you are describing, will be most probably of the British loading of said cartridge and manufacture (maybe 38 S&W Short) as contemporary 38 Special loadings used on the US Southern Border were very effective on regular opponents, reason for its further development in US as far as penetration is concerned was due to the gangster use of cars that were by that time made from fairly thick gauge steel. 45 cal you speak of might ve againt Brit 455 and similar low pressure rounds. 45 auto is definately Colt 1911 pistol and there might be 380 ACP Colt Pocket Hammerless among the lads. Anyway my few drops as I am hoplologist of Central European descent with avid interest in IRA way of fighting the global hegemon for the independence of their nation.

[@brendanmaguire4134]

TY Davey

[@davyholden]

Thank you!

[@turnip3829]

tragically still to this day almost nothing about the Troubles is taught in any british school.

[@noelhill7225]

below is the film on of martin mc garland

[@tehyagrah9701]

Hey, Davy! I'm looking to move to Cork, Ireland where my grandmother Ann Doherty is from. I'm new to your channel but no stranger to bluegrass and IRA stories from my grandmother and my older cousins. haha Are you in or around Cork? It would be cool to meet ya and pick your brain on the subject.

[@patrickporter1864]

hat of the battle of gortalea ric station in kerry in 1917. Long before dan breen ever got going.

[@xXtimesplitterxX]

You're a historian as well.

[@zakariyashakir4091]

Laaaa, what is your take on the people of England ? Note3 not talking about the royal family

[@sonminorimitsuu2838]

🇮🇪

[@pappalazarus906]

Would you like a cheese burger?

[@carlomiller1984]

Get the British out of Ireland !!! Erin go Brah !!! The famed Union Army segregated 2nd class citizen "Irish Brigade" during the US Civil War, was 180,000 men at their peak, but their ranks were decimated during the Civil War, because they had more than their fair share of combat. It was easy and convenient to put a segregated 2nd class citizen Irish regiment at the front of the attacks on the Rebels. This was when the segregated Irish regiments which made up the Union Army Irish Brigade were first called "the fightin' Irish" by their Union Army commanders. Just thought I'd give this info, in case you didn't know it.

[@patrickporter1864]

180,00n0 men's an army not a brigade.

[@carlomiller1984]

@@patrickporter1864 The segregated 2nd class citizen Union Army Irish Brigade was about 180,000 men at its peak. It was made up of the many segregated Irish regiments from the northern states. All of these segregated Irish regiments made up what was called the "Irish Brigade" in the Union Army. They were called the Irish Brigade because they were all Irish soldiers and at that time the Irish immigrants were considered to be 2nd class citizens in the USA and were thus segregated into Irish regiments. Their ranks were decimated in that war. There were about 19,000 segregated Irish soldiers in the Confederate Army [south] also, and they were decimated in that war, also. There were about 650,000 men or more killed in the US Civil War, from the north and south. More than any other war that the USA has been engaged in since. And in the following US wars the Irish citizens were usually the largest percentage of soldiers, although no longer segregated as in the US Civil War.