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The Isle Concept Analysis | Tyrannosaurus Rex

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Hello everyone, and welcome to another The Isle Concept Analysis! This is a series I will be making for the following weeks where I explore and analyse all the dinosaur concepts that the devs have been releasing since 2020. Today we are going to discuss the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Hope you all enjoy the video :)
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
Original 0:25
Asset 2:39
Concept 4:01
Speculation 5:21
Outro 6:52
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@MBtooth
@MBtooth 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I really hope Tyrannosaurus gets a grab attack, where it can pin, crush, or do other grapple related things on prey, at the cost of losing almost all of its stamina during the grab. That would be amazing imo
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
I think the devs said it would have a sort of grab attack where it would be a stamina battle between it and it's prey, and if the prey won, it would escape, and if the rex won, it would crush their bones and kill them. Similar mechanic to the Deino. But you know, everything is subject to change.
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@REGOR THE JOE That wouldn't actually be more realistic though, Most large carnivores probably had no or very little feathering. Both T-Rex and Carnotaurus are known the be entirely scaled, both based on skin impressions that show large portions of the body covered in scales, with no evidence of feathers. Just in general because of the selection pressures and biomechanics of animals that large I think most large therapods were probably unfeathered, or close to it. There's Yutyrannus, but it lived in the arctic. Smaller dinos were probably feathered a lot more often, but it still depends on the species. I also think it would ruin the vibe of the game. I'm not against realism, but for one, this isn't really more realistic, and two, it wouldn't fit The Isle. But you'll probably get some more fan made feathered models once modding comes out.
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@REGOR THE JOE Let the game have it's style, just because something isn't feathered doesn't make it a "JP rippoff design". I like realism, but I don't like when it's shoved down the throat of all dinosaur media.
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@REGOR THE JOE No? "Oh no a non paleo accurate dinosaur, so terrible." I don't even like or watch Jurassic Park.
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@REGOR THE JOE I mean, I don't think they have to give a shit about realism. Saurian's got that covered. The Isle is gonna have humans and super dinosaurs, it doesn't need all the normal dinos to be as accurate as possible.
@alunaticwithashotgun9840
@alunaticwithashotgun9840 2 жыл бұрын
Growing a T.Rex to full adult should be very difficult but extremely rewarding , Rex being the strongest carnivore in game would not be an issue if there is only 1-2 of them per server. That goes for every apex to be honest , back in legacy apexes were just big slow targets for smaller creatures specially in no alt turn servers. Evrima apexes should be the exact opposite people should turn the other way and run as far as possible when they see/hear one near them. Apexes being difficult to grow combined with how big the map will be when the rest of it becomes avalibile should make seeing an apex a rare occurrence.
@pain002
@pain002 2 жыл бұрын
you live in another world if you think there will only be 1-2 apexes per server...
@alunaticwithashotgun9840
@alunaticwithashotgun9840 2 жыл бұрын
@@pain002 not 1-2 apexes , what I mean is 1-2 adults per every apex , at least for carnivores. It doesn't matter if there are 20 juvi rexes if only 2 of them make it to adult
@katrinsaarik3756
@katrinsaarik3756 2 жыл бұрын
wait it will be playable!?
@alunaticwithashotgun9840
@alunaticwithashotgun9840 2 жыл бұрын
@@katrinsaarik3756 I mean yea obviously at some point , though they might introduce it as AI first, long before it becomes playable
@katrinsaarik3756
@katrinsaarik3756 Жыл бұрын
@@alunaticwithashotgun9840 thx, we really need it in game, but not like in legacy
@Wonone-Buppyone
@Wonone-Buppyone Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that if apexes can only nest in a few baby’s at one time, maybe only having a limit of 2 eggs per nest, that would give apex players more of a motive to protect their young and also keeping there population in check
@nikolasdemoulin8093
@nikolasdemoulin8093 Жыл бұрын
It would only keep their population in check if there’s a limit on how many can spawn in. Requiring nesting to create any more. Otherwise everyone will just pick the Rex from the start.
@jackwalters5506
@jackwalters5506 11 ай бұрын
That would only limit their numbers if nesting was the main way of spawning. However it isn't and most people never use it in Evrima
@tactical_ghost199
@tactical_ghost199 5 ай бұрын
Or they could just spawn in as a Rex
@thefirstatom6731
@thefirstatom6731 2 жыл бұрын
I frickin hope its less fast and without bonebreak, its biteforce and weight are fine to me. if it actually can pin down dinosaurs in evrima it would make up for it being slower
@ender_z4nd3r83
@ender_z4nd3r83 2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer it being faster than average but that gis stamina only lasted like 15-10 seconds
@thefirstatom6731
@thefirstatom6731 2 жыл бұрын
@@ender_z4nd3r83 i guess it could maybe work
@yehiahuzayyin7972
@yehiahuzayyin7972 Жыл бұрын
I personally like the idea behind bonebreak, but I think it should be nerfed heavily, and maybe a weaker version of it could also be given to the Albertosaurus in an effort to balance the scales while being a nice nod to paleontology.
@KurNorock
@KurNorock Жыл бұрын
@@ender_z4nd3r83 That is the exact opposite of what t-rex really was. The real t-rex was a persistence hunter. It hunted by having more stamina than anything else. It didn't need to be fast because it would just chase you non-stop so that you couldn't rest. And when you collapsed from exhaustion, it would walk up and crush your bones to keep you down while it ate you.
@ender_z4nd3r83
@ender_z4nd3r83 Жыл бұрын
@@KurNorock irl rex would run down giga and it was much stronger so it would destroy it, I'm sure you don't want that
@ggsmrdoink
@ggsmrdoink 2 жыл бұрын
When I see a small trex when it eventually comes to the game in 6 years im killing it on sight
@pratikgaikwad7472
@pratikgaikwad7472 Жыл бұрын
Until the adult behind you catches you and types XD on the global chat.
@FiddleWiddle
@FiddleWiddle Жыл бұрын
​@@pratikgaikwad7472 no global chat in envirma
@flightlesslord2688
@flightlesslord2688 Жыл бұрын
Make it slow. Basically, every smaller theropod should be able to get away from it if it sees it coming. It should be a bit slower than shant, faster than the bulky herbivores like trike. It should have good stamina whilst walking and trotting, so it can pursue something for a long time. I think rex should have a move that uses a lot of its stamina like a pin or an ambush like the deinosuchus but on land, where it does a kind of very fast, striding charge. It should be a purely ambush predator that can follow injured prey long distances but not be able to actively chase something or outmanoeuvre much. If an initial ambush fails, it fails. Like a tiger mixed with a komodo dragon. I like the idea of it grabbing prey, crushing it, eventually the prey wriggling free but having severe wounds. The rex then follows it until it dies. Before that it should sprint slowly but be able to do a lunge into the pin. Lots of stamina gone, but once the prey is bitten its basically already dead, and the rex can just follow and wait for it to die.
@frostedbacon7033
@frostedbacon7033 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve really been enjoying this series, keep up the good work!
@crabhater9373
@crabhater9373 2 жыл бұрын
People might call me a basic bitch for this but I don't care. T-rex is my favorite dinosaur, and it's role in the isle should reflect its reputation. It should be no surprise that rexes will be walking calamities for any animal it can catch, however there are ways to balance this. There are numerous ways that the devs could balance out this creature while still making it a force of nature in a fight. For example, they could make it move slower than other animals in its weight class. Then they could make its diet very picky. There would only be a couple food sources per diet hexagon that rexes could use. Or they could make rexes only able to digest a certain amount of a carcass to constantly keep players moving. Such a demanding diet would be unsustainable for large groups of rexes, which would naturally limit the number of rexes in a region. Next they could emphasize the sound of a t-rex stomping around. Making rex stomps louder would make it harder to ambush creatures and would add to the presence of a fully grown apex. They could also make areas in the map that can only be accessed by an animal that can jump. It would be a haven for smaller creatures from larger ones that cannot cross the terrain.
@crabhater9373
@crabhater9373 2 жыл бұрын
Going off what I said above, the most important matchups t-rex has is between giga and spino. Together these three are the biggest predators. Both spino and giga have niches other than being huge that they can fall back on if brute force isn't enough. giga has bleed, speed and pack tactics to kill sauropods, and spino can always just go in the water and eat fish or overturn ankys. t-rex does not have a niche to fall back on, meaning his saving grace should be undisputed power. rex is simply able to damage-trade extremely effectively with most of the roster, making him a slow yet unstoppable force. rex has two counters, giant sauropods that can out damage-trade and ankys that can just ignore damage and break bone. This creates a rock-paper-scissors dynamic where some animals have advantages over other animals but also disadvantaged matchups. ultimately all apexes should be able to kill another apex, but that doesn't mean it needs to be on a 1 on 1 basis.
@pain002
@pain002 2 жыл бұрын
@@crabhater9373 You are talking about devs that took a year to figure out how to balance an ankylosaurus...As if they had ideas anywhere near this good they will just be like "we give humans sniper rifles and apexes are gonna be fewer"
@crabhater9373
@crabhater9373 2 жыл бұрын
@@pain002 Thats valid. Watching this game develop from day 1 has been incredibly frustrating. This game always seems to be on the verge of being good but its always two steps forward, one step back. The devs didn't screw everything up though, simply by the fact that you and I are here talking about it. I gotta admit, the devs have a really cool vision of a badass dino game. Its clear that this game has always been more of a labor of love for the genre rather than deliberate cash grab. I'm glad they are focusing on building a solid foundation on evrima first, and I think the game is really compelling at times. Being first or second in a new genre is not only risky, but difficult. There isn't much data that afterthought can glean from previous franchises, its more throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks. With the isle, the devs really shot themselves in the foot balance-wise when they confirmed dinosaurs, mercenaries and tribals will be playable. It's really hard to balance even one of those, not to mention all three in one game. Moving forward, they should really focus on nailing dinosaurs before even thinking on adding guns. Makes me wonder why they put tribals as the last group to be added. They probably wouldn't mess up the meta as much as mercenaries, and seem more suited to the game in general.
@benjamintaiper7987
@benjamintaiper7987 Жыл бұрын
​@@crabhater9373 bro reading your comment made me happy. I've always hated rex players on the old isle tbh. Only because I died to them 24/7 and there were so many of them.. everywhere I looked there was an apex there. And if there wasn't a apex then there were aggressive herbs like, I'm a baby allo, how am I supposed to kill you? Sorry if my sentence made no sense, for me it's currently 3am lol
@masonv5143
@masonv5143 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they do something else to make it hard to grow other than just “8 hour growth time go brrrrrrr”
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
8 hour growth time do go brrrrrrr tho
@devinvalero7452
@devinvalero7452 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it'll have a challenging diet to fulfill. Possibly one that changes as it grows, going from prey appropriate for a lithe, leggy juvenile to a diet more reflective of a beefy bruiser over time.
@duder7396
@duder7396 2 жыл бұрын
Probably different diets in different growth stages, etc
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@PolskaKrowa nah
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@PolskaKrowa cannibalism is not a good solution for everything. I don't think cannibalism fits T-Rex.
@Exquailibur
@Exquailibur Жыл бұрын
In real life tyrannosaurus had a very rough life and didn't live especially long for such a large animal, but they actually grew rather fast and had massive growth spurts. In comparison acro and giga seemed to live longer and grow in a more linear fashion, from what I have read a 30 year old tyrannosaurus was a rarity while the Carcharodontosaurids like acro and giga may have been able to get much older. Tyrannosaurus lived fast and died young while giga likely lived a comparatively more laid back lifestyle, not that its was especially easy but just not as hardcore as tyrannosaurs. Ofc dont take my word for it, go and research it yourself because I dont have time to site sources lol. If you want some help I believe it was the recently described Meraxes that was found to be between 40 and 50 years old when it died which would make it the oldest known non-avian therapod. Considering its close relationship with giga, acro, and carcha and the fact larger species often live longer the carcharadontasaurids may have been capable of living a very long time which I think is cool. Its also very unlikely that that one specimen of Meraxes was as old as they get, so a 60 year old wouldn't be impossible.
@rexythetearex5488
@rexythetearex5488 Жыл бұрын
rex max sizs that scotty almost reached is 10 metric tons making it the largest megatheropod to have ever lived truly majestic
@gajspalt
@gajspalt 2 жыл бұрын
Zaguer rocking the Paraworld OST at the start there, I see you lol.
@JeffAM1986
@JeffAM1986 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I think it should have a much longer young adult to full grown stage. Sun adult stage is pretty long with Juvi to sub taking like 2 .5 hours maybe.
@sauraplay2095
@sauraplay2095 Жыл бұрын
Great concept analysis!
@Supersaurus4
@Supersaurus4 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is one of the videos I've been waiting for!
@fandomfanboy3743
@fandomfanboy3743 Жыл бұрын
I kinda hope that the devs took inspiration from Prehistoric Planet and design the tyrannosaurus hatchings with feathers then loses said feathers when they mature.
@ender_z4nd3r83
@ender_z4nd3r83 Жыл бұрын
No even amongst, rex IS the largest carnivore dinosaur
@IndominusRex-wc1ey
@IndominusRex-wc1ey Жыл бұрын
Yeah competition isn't even close, scotty is a scale smashing 11 tons at max estimates. The next closest is giga at a mere 9 and a half
@tristanmcintosh-walls4760
@tristanmcintosh-walls4760 2 жыл бұрын
My issue is if the make the Trex too slow. Then how would it catch anything to eat. If the diet is all dinos who are faster then that will make the rex impossible to keep alive. Unless it's OP in health and damage so I could just walk up and take food from the competition. I feel like complaining the rex is OP is dumb. Because it was OP.
@moluvkbalalala8878
@moluvkbalalala8878 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video I learned alot
@mikeoxsmal69
@mikeoxsmal69 Жыл бұрын
proceratosaurus is a real top G
@searpen1848
@searpen1848 Жыл бұрын
What I want the Rex to be is the "my life is hell and I'll make your life hell also" In legacy If you have enough money, you can just skip all of the difficult part of the growing stage as a rex and just become an adult. Also it doesn't really take that much to keep that rex Since any bite from the Rex means you are dead. So you could just buy a grow then become practically unstoppable. In evrima I want the Rex to feel more fair. Like yeah even if you buy a grow, can you maintain the Rex though? Their diet needs to be one of the most difficult from juvenile to adulthood. So only the most skilled player can use it effectively. Hell even if you buy a perfect diet it won't last forever. Rex is built to patrol so make the stam heal while walking more prevalent in rex. It can keep its bone break since well... It is a rex. Their legs are like a toothpick holding up a fridge so yeah less stam for running since let's be real, if it can grab and crush and be basically the strongest bruiser... Why run? Well if you are like sub than yeah stam but it slowly decreases till you can only ambush instead of chasing them down If you read all of deez then here's your reward 🍞
@pratikgaikwad7472
@pratikgaikwad7472 Жыл бұрын
I agree with everthing except the diet thing. If I grow into an adult which would probably take like 8hrs and gonna be constantly hungry, I don't wanna starve to death just because I couldn't find a juvie triceratops. I mean yeah, increase the growth hours and all, but like why are you making it feel unplayable. Moreover if anything, the devs are probably gonna make it op again and then call it realism. Rex is thought to be much faster than similar sized theropods. It is also thought to have been built for running large distances You know, it's Conceptually ridiculous if it didn't, if you know what that means.
@searpen1848
@searpen1848 Жыл бұрын
@@pratikgaikwad7472 now that you mentioned it yeah the diet is going to be a some sort of problem but if you think about it it kinda Balances The Rex since if it's going to be one hungry boi it will be best used in crowded servers and act as a population control and what I interpret the juvie not being eaten is that it will take much for the food bar to be filled *and* that it will take longer to starve. When the map is going to be *gigantic* and interaction will be more scarce it's kinda counter intuitive to make rex starve that fast. It can keep its stam since yeah after looking at the map more there are a lot of open spots so being able to have stam is crucial against herds in open fields and catching up to one that already spotted you. Legacy rex going more on ambush and brawl meanwhile the evrima rex is going to be more adaptable kinda make it more fair... Funny that I have become a hypocrite on my own comment
@Crakinator
@Crakinator Жыл бұрын
The money thing does not matter at all. That’s 100% absent from official servers. Only community servers do dumb shit like that.
@dotsinki1096
@dotsinki1096 Жыл бұрын
it was one of the absolute greatest long distance runners the world has ever seen atleast from the perspective of just absolute distance and time. The legacy version was another creature entirely i would get very dissapointed if they did and i doubt they will keep it an ambush hunter only capable of a 20 second run i agree very much with "my life is hell and I'll make your life hell also" but thats a matter of growing and being in constant threat of loosing all your hard work but if they break scientific accuracy by such a great amount then whats the point of naming it after tyrannosaurus rex instead of just making up your own creature, like adding a cheetah and making it a slow moving long distance marathon runner
@pratikgaikwad7472
@pratikgaikwad7472 Жыл бұрын
@@dotsinki1096 Because unlike the cheetah, the rex irl is op af. Cheetahs are all about speed. But rex on the other hand, is the most robust theropod, and has the best bite force among any land creature, and now, its also faster than gigas or other similar sized allosaurids, and can maintain the speed for a long time. It completely overshadows giga irl, so its a complete mess to balance them out. Spinosaurus would get obliterated on land if they went realistic. And the only dinos capable to defeat a rex would be herbivores. I feel like the adult shouldn't be nerfed, but its juvie and sub adult stages should be highly nerfed, while giga's juvie stages should be buffed so people would actually play as the giga. Spino on the other hand should have a great nerf on land, but should have a temporary boost of stats if its touching water.
@nightmarepokemon1143
@nightmarepokemon1143 2 жыл бұрын
I think bone break should still be a thing for Rex but it should be like deino grab. Deino can grab dinos and drown them but only if water is deep enough and they have mostly full stam when they grab. Rex should have bone break but it would be a risk. If Rex has a certain amount of stam they should deal bone break when the grab ends but it's a 50/50 and if the Rex doesn't have enough stam when starting the grab the bone break won't work. Another risk would be that at the end of grab you lose all your stam. So if bone break fails the Dino that was grabbed has a 100% chance to escape the Rex. Or the Rex would be boned cause no stam and it's fighting a pack.
@thespinoboy5615
@thespinoboy5615 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see how they make apexes skilled based to grow and dominant beast when achieved, just hope that the hunger and thirst drains are enough to limit populations and making growing both difficult and long to do Imo, getting to adult on an apex should be a rare thing and take both immense skill, time, and some luck to do
@thecrustyone1503
@thecrustyone1503 Жыл бұрын
why did I not hear about this concept till now lmao
@realdaggerman105
@realdaggerman105 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s roll
@Kio_vidz
@Kio_vidz Жыл бұрын
Will be fun to like raise your own rex family have your own territory and fight for it with other rex families. Plus it will be my main as devs said it will have the head stunn and grab attack that will be a stamina fight like deino but rex will crush its prey if it wins and if prey wins it just escapes. i hope so. Rex will be hard to grow but it's adult stage is a powerful reward for you, it will be hunting for prey most likely in it's size or ambush the smaller ones. And if some people think it will be OP liek in legacy, remember apexes are hugy strong and tanky but you can run away from them if you see them before they launch attack on you, if they add the ambush mechanic rex will be capable of hunting tenos if it has got the ambush charged, if not it will simply run away and you have 30-20% of catching it. Rex will be tanky and very storng with the body fractures and the pin down abilities but wil be chunky and a bit of hard to turn in place like carno but a bit slower so that you can avoid its attacks unless you don't pay atention and you get ALT killed.
@darkonyx6995
@darkonyx6995 2 жыл бұрын
Zaguer, what's your opinion about the new Austroraptor model? And what place do you put it in the tier list you did some time ago? I personally loved the new model, i think it looks better than the classic Austroraptor, and CERTAINLY IS MILES AHEAD OF THE OLD GANNET-AUSTRO CONCEPT, the Ubirajara-like shoulder feathers do look kinda strange, but i still think it should be on lower S tier or high A tier :)
@gracefuldove8414
@gracefuldove8414 2 жыл бұрын
my favorite dinosaur and that's not because I don't know any other dinosaurs. I can't express my excitement for T-REX (the king)
@ggsmrdoink
@ggsmrdoink 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even the king, brachiosaurus when it comes will be the king
@bluebearcz2429
@bluebearcz2429 2 жыл бұрын
@@ggsmrdoink Honestly, most sauropods above the Diplo tier will be the the rulers.
@ggsmrdoink
@ggsmrdoink 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluebearcz2429 the only sauropods coming is the awesome brachiosaurus and the useless magyarosaurus
@Mr.Wetherilli
@Mr.Wetherilli 2 жыл бұрын
@@ggsmrdoink wrong, brontosaurus and camarosaurus is also coming
@ambrosianapier7545
@ambrosianapier7545 2 жыл бұрын
Probably as ai to be honest. They would be like a boss battle.
@Omegasutoraiki
@Omegasutoraiki Жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool if The Isle Devs made Rex sound like it actually would have instead of roaring. I would love to just have super Bass Rumble come through when Rex made broadcasts.
@RestingLuge
@RestingLuge 2 жыл бұрын
could you show where you got the images for this video? that picture 30 seconds in looks cool :D
@nathanfourie5128
@nathanfourie5128 Жыл бұрын
As long as apex (giga) can oh I don't know actually live through an encounter I will be over the moon
@albino4160
@albino4160 2 жыл бұрын
i think rex should be able to capitalize on other apex's hunts and walks over and takes there kill, if they keep him super slow with no ambush speeds, he either will capitalize on other apexes kills or in some miracle he catches something, the only thing is, idk how he'll catch anything????, but he should be overpowered if hes slow enough, giga has speed and bleed attacks to wear out large targets down spino can bleed and also capitalize on kills also from the water, to me there putting him where he needs to be also to consider in this game is there will be way more mid tiers around the map killing things which will make growing any of these apex's suck butt cheeks
@albino4160
@albino4160 2 жыл бұрын
@@v8hyp it's a sad reality
@albino4160
@albino4160 2 жыл бұрын
Considering it's a survival game
@GeraldCool
@GeraldCool 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't even seen it yet But... W
@ggsmrdoink
@ggsmrdoink Жыл бұрын
the only dinos in the game to deal true legacy bonebreak are ankylosaurus and brachiosaurus
@Enoshk
@Enoshk 11 ай бұрын
im okay with rexie being one or even the most powerful carnivore in the game but at the cost of being a long grow time dino. how long do you think is a fair grow time? its likely going to be the strongest pred in the game and its going to be super popular. around 7-11ish hr from fresh spawn to adult?
@DanDan-qj4ou
@DanDan-qj4ou Жыл бұрын
I think it will be very hard to grow the t rex bc of how weak it might be when its little, and everyone would probably kill baby t rexs
@titanosaurdy9493
@titanosaurdy9493 Жыл бұрын
I hope they limited the rex's max of hatchlings from 3 to ensure its population
@daltonv5206
@daltonv5206 Жыл бұрын
Why is it ok for herbi's to be op but not an apex?
@phantom-or2lu
@phantom-or2lu 11 ай бұрын
Because a lot of herbi mains are toxic and biased keep in mind while i say a lot due to experience not all of them ive met herbi mains who were amazing people in rl and in game and had good opinions but yeah some herbi mains can be toxic so they want all hadros to be able to kill a trex with ease because they think its realistic when its not at all only edmontosaurus and shantungosaurus stood a chance against tyrants and even this is a gamble for the hadros because the tyrants can reach a vital area. The neck and the only way for a edmontosaurus or shantungosaurus to kill an apex predator would be to knock it down and use its weight to crush it. People underestimate apexs a lot and their power to me shantungosaurus should be a difficult target for 1 apex but these things would stay in herds too which made them extremely difficult to hunt but also they probably would have preferred to run away if possible only fighting if necessary. But what about parasaurolophus? Well i dont give a damn what people want thay slim 5000 pound animal isn't ever bringing down a trex which was probably 27 thousand pounds on average or gigas or acros etc which were around the same weight the reason paras wouldn't swarm rex in rl is because their weapons couldn't damage a tyrannosaurus rex and their weight wouldn't be enough. For god sakes these animals are more than just me go bite bite
@phantom-or2lu
@phantom-or2lu 11 ай бұрын
That or herbis in general once again i know herbis are not pushovers and that's what i hear every time i get into a debate about this is "they aren't pushovers" or "why are you saying herbis are weak" and stuff like that like IK herbivores are strong animals too but in the end carnivores were just as strong depending on the matchup. But most animals would prefer to retreat rather than fight this includes herbivores and obviously carnivores too but once again they WILL fight if they got to but in the isle stego should be no match for any apex and it needs to take apex herbis to successfully bring down the mighty tyrants. But in the end some people will still stick to their moto of "herbi big strong carni weak herbi win always" when no thats not how things would always go now if a rex sees a triceratops it depends if the rex is hungry enough to fight it and if its not it will go look for prey that cant fight back. Most of the time apex herbis would be more or less safe but keep in mind once again... HERDS kept these animals safe mostly if trikes are in even a small herd then its impossible for even 2 rexs to kill even 1 and that's the main way herbis should stay safe but if alone then fighting is still an option. But the only herbis that apexs shouldnt be soloing is sauropods they should at least be in pairs for them but ik people would say it should take 2 rexs or gigas or spinos etc to bring down a shant when no while its still life threatening to take one on it doesn't make any sense for shant to be near impossible for a solo apex to bring down when its jaws or claws or both etc are more than enough and think about it the rex has to land a bit to the neck and once it does its Over for the shant while the shant has to knock down the apex first before being able to actually injure it or worse kill it and ik many would say but shants a quadroped so it would have an easier time staying upright well yes while true the apex doesnt need to knock over the shant and putting an apex on the ground would be no easy take but it wouldn't be easy landing the neck bite either however in game shant should be capable of winning fights with apexs but the fatality rate upon a shant win should be low or at least only moderate while obviously upon an apex win the fatality rate is all the time and honestly a triceratops and ankylosaurus should be way more dangerous than a shant simply because they were but even these should be able to be killed by apexs in 1v1s but also trike and anky winning should also be good too. If you want balance then make it basically 50/50 with apex vs herbi on power and well with skill it goes either way exept sauropods then power should rely on 2 apexs then skill can come into play
@kitkat5596
@kitkat5596 Жыл бұрын
All I have to say is if they don't make the Apexes (Rex, Giga, and Spino) cannibals then Evirma will be nothing but Legacy 2.0 were that's all you'll see is those three apexes, it honestly made me sick to my stomach when I had to put up with that bullshit in Legacy so I hope it never happens again in Evirma, also the apexes better have at least 7 to 8 hours growth or I'm calling bullshit.
@phantom-or2lu
@phantom-or2lu 11 ай бұрын
Well i mean it takes 7 hours to grow a rex and 6 to grow a giga and probably 6 too for spino and cannibalism isnt needed because if they make it realistic to where apexs cant afford to have another tyrant in their turf eating their food then they will kill each other for the turf anyway
@kitkat5596
@kitkat5596 11 ай бұрын
That was a old take I had on apexes in Evirma, I dont have the same thoughts about the cannibal part anymore, seeing how easy it helps people to grow I can comfortably say that apexes indeed shouldnt be canni and their growth time should be extreme still. @@phantom-or2lu
@certified720
@certified720 2 жыл бұрын
personally i think this dood puts too much effort into his videos to be this small.
@nikolasdemoulin8093
@nikolasdemoulin8093 Жыл бұрын
I think a limit on apexes in servers would be a great method of fixing the overpopulation of these animals in the games. And make it so you can’t play one twice in a row. Idk. Not perfect but it would help stop the whole 48 T-rexes on a 100 player server we saw in legacy.
@Patrick3183
@Patrick3183 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Only a few apexes allowed at any given time on any server. It should be something you don’t expect to see
@SoulRender3201
@SoulRender3201 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely disagree with hard capping what playable you can play in a server. Imagine being a rex main and you can't play your favorite dino because you got into the server and 5 people are on rex. Just make it hard to grow, hard to keep up on diets, and make it a cannibal. That's enough to keep the player limits down, we see it with deino.
@n1ak
@n1ak Жыл бұрын
Rex OP? It was never,if you died to a rex you either didnt pay attention or you wanted the fight. You need to sneak/hide constantly if someone sees you,you wont catch it. Should it be OP in raw power. Hell yes.
@Forestguardian
@Forestguardian Жыл бұрын
Personally even with this I think it should possibly keep some form of bone crushing. Crushing bone is T Rex's whole thing, it's what those jaws are built for, Crushing and dispatching the prey item as quickly as possible. Maybe a bone break could be an ability that Rex could use when hunting Armoured Dinosaurs like Triceratops or Anky. It could be a charge bite like what cerato will have.
@profilenotfound2525
@profilenotfound2525 Жыл бұрын
From what i saw rex in evrima its gonna be just as broken as in legacy , some grab Attack? Sounds like some 1 shot shit, theyre prolly gonna give it bone break too , make it have a Ton of stammt and health etc in the end its gonna be stupidly op and therefor a bad Addition to the game , goga spino and other apexes prolly aint competing with it
@nitrumlegal7470
@nitrumlegal7470 2 жыл бұрын
Cool but it will take probably 100 to 1000 years for the devs to make so yeah thats pretty sad
@KurNorock
@KurNorock Жыл бұрын
I don't understand people's demand for game "balance". Especially in a game that is supposedly trying to accurately depict realistic animals. You can't have both. You can't demand a realistic dinosaur game but then also demand that every dinosaur in the game is just as powerful or useful as every other dinosaur in the game. And yes, the rex should be able to break bones. That is literally what its mouth was designed to do. Even down to the tiny serrations on the back side of the teeth which cause bone to fractionate and literally "explode" when the tooth punctures a bone.
@midnight3260
@midnight3260 Жыл бұрын
Based. Lmao, they will soon start saying that the fight between a pack of troodons and an adult rex should be fair, and in general mid tier herbivorous should be 50-50 with rex. 💀💀💀
@ghidorah4695
@ghidorah4695 3 ай бұрын
The problem with those two demands isn't the demand for balance. It's the demand for realism. If you can't have something both realistic and balanced, then realism _must_ be discarded. The issue is that in dinosaur games people seem to think that realism trumps all, when in reality... no. No, balance is a must.
@KurNorock
@KurNorock 3 ай бұрын
@ghidorah4695 that is far and away the most diabolically retarded thing you could have said. Balance fucking sucks. It does nothing but ruin games. Always has, always will. And it is impossible to achieve anyway. And discarding realism complete defeats the purpose of the game. People play a dinosaur game to play as a dinosaur. But when you start fucking with things for the sake of balance, you are fundamentally changing what a dinosaur is. Now you aren't playing a dinosaur game, you are playing a generic monster game wearing a dinosaur skin-suit. There is no point in playing as a trex if it doesn't do trex things.
@ryancramp7720
@ryancramp7720 Жыл бұрын
if am honest with you rex did not feel like an apex in legacy because if you know how to get around a rex without getting bitten and you stack up bleed rex cant really counter that because how slow he is so in my opinion i think rex being able to grapple enemies for easy kills is a very good thing it makes rex more intimidating to approach as say if you were a utah rex needs to feel like he isnt threatened by most of the cast apart from others of his kind or other apex species or other large herbivores rex need to feel like you have power over all smaller creatures but the threat is higher with larger prey
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, what's your accent?
@Hadtoo
@Hadtoo 2 жыл бұрын
Portugal
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadtoo huh
@Hadtoo
@Hadtoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@GustafUNL he is from Portugal 🇵🇹
@GustafUNL
@GustafUNL 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hadtoo Yeah, I mean, I would assume so if his accent is Portuguese.
@user-be9eb7gs6o
@user-be9eb7gs6o 2 жыл бұрын
Portugal caralho!
@profilenotfound2525
@profilenotfound2525 Жыл бұрын
Wow , seriously ? A stun attack ? We saw how that turns out on teno v carno , carno aint shit against teno cuz of that, so here we have the confirmation, apexes aint standing any chance meaning rex is gonna be broken and unbalanced and a bad Addition just like it is in legacy
@johndasalty111
@johndasalty111 Жыл бұрын
You're not a real dino fan if your favourite dino is trex
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