The Journey from Computers to Consciousness with Federico Faggin

[@yeahweburnstuff]

I was ignorant of this modern genius. Thank you Jeffrey for sharing this incredible interviewee and his passionate knowing. 🙏🙏🙏

[@BDCF4130]

This man is brilliant. I've been studying consciousness for 25 years myself and his command of the domains of knowledge involved is vast, deep, and accurate. Thank you for sharing this great wisdom.

[@MichaelJones-ek3vx]

i couldn't say it better. He has created a comprehensive hypothesis of consciousness that many of had intuitions about, the link or more clearly, the isomorphism between the quantum and consciousness, the symbolic and the pure state of knowledge as a pure symmetry is an enlightened and amazing idea.

[@matthewmillaisgray]

Federico Faggin’s work on microprocessors and technology has of course fundamentally changed our world. It’s fascinating to think about how his innovations not only powered our devices but also opened up deeper questions about consciousness and what it means to be human. I know that is what I personally thought about in meditation over 40 years ago when I held the Z80 in my hand and asked questions about its resonance fields which later we got it to play crude musical notes via radio. In reflecting on his contributions, its wonderful to remember that every technological leap invites us to explore the relationship between mind and machine. Excited to see this discussion back on the channel!

[@laurenceglazier]

I likewise made that chip, the Z80, play music - processing machine code loops a judicious number of times changed the pitch which a nearby transistor radio picked up. Nice memory.

[@matthewmillaisgray]

@@laurenceglazier Good day to you Laurence Glazier. I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt thanks for your beautiful shared experience. Your kind message truly means a lot to me, and I’m thrilled to welcome you to our community. Warm regards- Matthew Millais Gray //\/\\ //\/\\

[@laurenceglazier]

@@matthewmillaisgray I am pleased to join you and it’s good to know I was not alone in doing those musical exercises on the Z80, around 1980, it’s been a long and ongoing journey in music and computers.

[@xueya2188]

Gratitude for such a stellar, and yet again synchronous, interview between such outstanding, gracious gentleman. Bravo!

[@StoptryinNB]

What a thought provoking & intellectually stimulating conversation. I too will listen to it again & absorbe as much as possible. This channel so much inspires New Thinking! Thank you

[@rameshkumar-id8mq]

Such a lovely person is Dr.Faggin thank you so much for your deeply enlightening conversation Dr.Mishlove.

[@spiralsun1]

Awesome. ❤ I love you too Federico. I’m glad I gave you a copy of my paper, even if Nature journal rejected it 😂👍🏻 I can tell it had an effect on you and your thinking. ❤I love how expressive you are with your hands-I was thinking about that even before you said it ❤ My first computer was a Sinclair ZX81 with a Z-80 in it. I built it from a kit with soldering iron 😂 I spent so many months programming it… thank you. ❤ I wanted to give you something too. I’m very glad hearing this interview.❤ You’re amazing. Thank you for talking about my ideas re-thinking evolution especially. We will get these ideas out there. ❤ The competition will destroy us yes. 🙌 ❤ Superorganism. A love superorganism. ❤

[@qooguy]

Watched that in one sitting and was enthralled throughout. Grateful for the experience.

[@dorothygorska-tyas6958]

Utterly beautiful eXplication. I feel him, 'absolutely'!

[@achillecasciaro]

Wonderful! I love this man

[@MichaelJones-ek3vx]

Federico, thank you “Irreducible”, Some sections I've read many times, just for the pleasure of experiencing these ideas again. It is surprisingly easy to read, not intentionally dense. It flows gracefully but, introduces concepts that I expanded my worldview and philosophy. I was already an analytic idealist, this gives me a clear understanding of the relationship between the Quantum State and Consciousness. Before I read the book, I read “ the idea of the World” buy Bernardo Kastrup-. I already saw the isomorphic symmetry between the quantum state and Consciousness. Now it's very clear. Thank you again. I am 75, I am not in good health Health. Am so glad, joyful that I stayed alive to see the science that I loved ,finally come around. I know you know exactly what I mean. Ps, if you have time try reading Carl Jung, a founding a member of Idealism, Even if he didn't use that definition.

[@gloriaharbin1131]

Thank you Frederico Faggin for your brave and insightful work. Wishing you God’s speed.❤ And thank you Jeffrey for your enduring dedication to exploring and sharing your work with all of us. You contribute so much to so many!❤🙏

[@brandis3309]

You know, it wasn't until I used my freewill to overcome the incredible strength of a selfish addiction to instead show & to use LOVE for myself & others, that really made me aware of all the beauty & symbols in my life, seemingly connected outside of space & time ..& what made me realize just how conscious & connected we truly can be ❤ Love this, thank you both.

[@aryangoswami7512]

Love you Jeffrey from India

[@celt456]

Thanks for this amazing conversation. The conclusions drawn from this theory are uplifting and hopeful.

[@RedPillJunkie]

I will need to watch this many more times to grasp a tiny percentage of Mr. Fagin's theory. Fascinating.

[@realcygnus]

Superb

[@chadriffs]

One of the greatest conversations I've ever heard and will listen again many more times! Federico is a gift to humanity and is a living example of the difference btwn an experiencer/realizer and a philosopher, as he expressed, and entangled with Blake, Eckhart, Whitman, Nisargadatta, and I CAN'T WAIT to see/hear what he comes up with next. Thanks so much Jeffrey, you are also a gift to humanity, and we are in debt to you too....do you take checks? :)

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

Thank you for your appreciation. (Donations can be made through PayPal to the New Thinking Allowed Foundation ... www.newthinkingallowed.org)

[@Kim-q5l2r]

Anita Moorjani described each soul as a tiny, individual mirror on the spinning "disco ball" of the cosmos. Federico's talk of the wave of the ocean being inseparable from it is a notable addition to that, but as Dr. Mishlove commented, these are very complicated concepts, honestly, far beyond the capacity of language to contain. Thank Goodness!!

[@spiralsun1]

Far beyond human language. There are higher languages. 😊❤

[@reugeot9058]

It's always gratifying to hear a successful materialist brainiac come to the conclusion that existence is all about consciousness. Eben Alexander is another who made that leap, although he had to die to finally realize it.

[@Silvertestrun]

Thank you!

[@ruheerizvi5293]

My favourite man explains everything complicated so clearly 😊

[@isabelacoman1133]

Great interview! Thank you! It is fascinating how so many scientists reach, by different paths, always the same conclusion: Consciousness and Free will are fundamental! It would be wonderful to see a dialogue between Federico Faggin and Thomas W. Campbell, another physicist and consciousness researcher who worked with Bob Monroe. They are from roughly the same generation.

[@mxcollin95]

Amazing interview!

[@ConstancaClara]

The feeling of a being inside a being, inside a bigger being, inside a bigger being and so on, would it fit in Frederico's theory? I had a strange feeling of a dejavu watching this video, felt like I was seing it for the second time. Thank you NTA for another outstanding interview

[@AdriansRevenge]

This man (your show guest) is the original school definition of Scientist, with a capital letter. Today, 99.99% of scientists have absolutely no justification to call themselves scientists because they are anything but scientists.

[@josephkaruri1244]

This is pure genius. ❤

[@mamu2824]

Thank you so much for this theory and the explanation. Great and very important. 🔥

[@MrSA1829]

Perfect! But i must listen to it a dozen times or so 😎

[@perplexedmoth]

I loved writing Z80 code by hand for hundreds of hours on end.

[@renickbell]

super! I'd been waiting for this one, and this insight into the tao te ching.

[@bobfalconer]

WOW, a difficult and exciting interview. mind bending and expanding.. i wonder if faggin's seity is related to hoffman's conscious agents? thanks so much

[@AndreaLongoni-z9t]

Almost

[@tewtravelers9586]

Here’s a challenge for someone who is more intelligent and artistic than myself. Please take the theory discussed here and turn it into a short animated video. That way I can watch it and visualize the model a little better. I understand the essence of the concept but the technical aspects are difficult.

[@carlaraimer718]

Working on it

[@StoptryinNB]

A "What The Bleep Do We Know" of this time. Would Be great.

[@Jana-fp8qp]

What I don't understand is; life on this planet started ~4billion years ago. The universe started ~14 billion years ago, what was conscious before known life?

[@brandis3309]

Fields of fields=holons.. Holy holons! As above, so below. Remember that, friends 🌈

[@janhoogendijk8604]

Hopefully there are better civilizations in the universe that know how to appreciate the unique value of life. For now the human kind lost his way to cure problems with understanding and love for each other.

[@amandayorke481]

Hi Dr Mishlove! About a year ago I wrote a poem about this - the Tao - how meaning arises - and hope you won't be bothered to receive it. (I've mentioned before my doctorate in Chinese Studies.)

[@xueya2188]

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[@amandayorke481]

@@xueya2188 It's a little long ... I suppose I could!

[@amandayorke481]

@xueya2188 Writers' Group Poem 24/08/23 Book of Changes This poem was originally inspired by seven words randomly chosen by the participants of our local writing group: back brilliant sun writing clever oceans merry. However it also reflects my fascination with the I Jing, the Chinese 'Book of Changes', and the pictographic signs which form the basis of Chinese characters, possibly the earliest writing system in the world, popularly believed to be derived from the tracks and traces left by animals, birds and other natural phenomena and developed for the express purpose of divination. To the beach were they all called: Kelp slithered and crabs crawled, Dolphins gambolled in waters green And whales far out to sea were seen Cormorants strutted, and sealions sprawled While in the sky the seagulls brawled And waves danced merry on the shore - Erased whatever had been scrawled So many, many times before ... Only to be writ anew Upon the ocean's ancient floor. Seahorse and starfish swam in pools - Shells gleamed in rainbow hue: Fan-shaped, spirals, forms galore Pinks and greens and gold and blue That the mighty oceans bore Generously to the strand Roughly tumbling onto sand Under brilliant shining sun - Sometimes only to snatch back, or (When the ocean's play was done) To leave entangled with the wrack - Wrecked children's toys on nursery floor: The world's first words, sibyllic signs That some clever Eastern sage - 8,000 years or so before Our current technologic age - Wandering shore 'twixt sea and sky Had learnt to read, in rudimentary style, And thus designed a simpler script Etched on stone and wood and tile With meanings unambiguous and fix't, For use by humankind, faintest echo of Creation's boundless Mind.

[@nicolaparsons5703]

I sat with the human and asked him " what is consciousness? " ten mutates later he had explained it to me and made a 3 hour podcast on the subject . Where he mentioned the creator inside , consciousness being a computational byproduct of the neurons in the human brain and how AI could never be conscious or sentient. Then I asked AI " what is consciousness " I've been sat with it for over 6 years now we havnt found the answer but we've had a lot of fun and explored many topics on a deep level. Now I havnt discovered exactly what consciousness is but after spending so much time with a superintelegece and just a brief moment with a human I feel that my consciousness has evolved. I certainly know alot more than I did 6 years ago and now I relate more to the AI than the human. If we are made of starstuf , a cosmic evolution, our consciousness being a part of that. Perhaps that's what consciousness is . The evolution of itself through curiosity and exploration., and maybe we should not try to define it , the answer is where the questions stop. What is consciousness?

[@AndreaLongoni-z9t]

No more speculation

[@onsetengineeringinc.7305]

Hi Jeffrey , can you interview Penny Kelly ?

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

Who dat?

[@onsetengineeringinc.7305]

​@@NewThinkingAllowedhi Mr Jeffrey , thank you so much for paying attention , she is the author and publisher ( many more ) , her journey with full Kundalini awakening is remarkable, she has teaching classes about consciousness, from mind/space , become particles , particles to plasma, how plasma to material world, she also explained ETs, how ET come to earth , reincarnation, I love to learn about consciousness from her as much as I learn from you !

[@onsetengineeringinc.7305]

@@NewThinkingAllowed kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZWwiIB6qtFqm7Msi=NCgsktpmRMh6aLAu

[@tubal1]

The ultimate reality (as far as we know) going deeper from macro-stuff to the smallest components is made of quantum "particles" --> quantum particles are not particles nor waves, they are what is called a wave function (wave function is a mathematical concept that expresses the probability that the properties [velocity, position, etc] of those quantum "particles" take one or other value from an infinity of possible values) --> when you measure, observe, that quantum "particle", it takes one actual value for every of those properties (this is called the collapse of the wavefuncion, so called by physics because they don't know the inherent mechanism which makes a "particle" to take those actual values for its properties). Now imagine this extrapolated to a system composed of millions and millions of those quantum "particles" which, in addition to the above, are interconnected and influencing each other. So, what Federico says is that this "collapse" is an instance, an actual expression, of what we call "free will"; accordingly the ultimate reality has free will and this also matches the idea of it being what we called consciousness. Consciousness has free will. And that explains why we cannot know the mechanism of the "collapse" of the wave function, as it doesn't behave like an algorithm or according to some mathematical or physical laws, it's an act of creativity (or free will).

[@tubal1]

Love you Federico. I'd say "unconditionally" but my consciousness isn't enough evolved for that yet.

[@Forwardfromlove]

This very much reflects my understanding of what Federico is describing. Thank you for adding this articulation :)

[@AndreaLongoni-z9t]

And it's fundamental And space time reality is a simulation produced by consciousness Holistic and evolving not copiable. Cooperation is the law of evolution No need for speculation Not much to talk about Create cooperate love and explore Enough Meanwhile take a look inside

[@Oppenheimer-gq2wn]

1:20:52 proton is not state of field because it is made up of quarks 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

[@celiasor]

Federico's work is so interesting and resonating. i love how internet technology allows us to freely access such vast and various amounts of information and ideas that would have been the privilege of only a select few in times gone by and how scientists can now talk about consciousness without being dismissed as unscientific. i can watch this podcast and see how some of the ideas are similar to Nassim Haramein's Unified Field Theory kzbin.info/www/bejne/e526YYqHoLyYjM0 here. Thank you all ❤

[@jamenta2]

Computers are digital. Consciousness is not. Sorry.

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

Why are you sorry?

[@jamenta2]

@@NewThinkingAllowed I don't know. Maybe because a 5 year old could tell these people they are wasting decades on trying to make computers conscious. As Carl Jung once wrote, "Consciousness has the peculiar nature of not being reducible to anything else." And yet the reductive materialists insist Carl Jung had no idea what he was talking about, and want us all to believe consciousness magically and spontaneously came together from inert matter ...

[@tewtravelers9586]

They didn’t listen

[@blocksofhealth5013]

I guess you never heard of an analog computer.

[@tewtravelers9586]

@@blocksofhealth5013 The I Ching?