The Ken Tamplin plot thickens, Evidence of studio lip-syncing and guitar miming

This is my final word at Ken's expense. I am addressing a few comments from my last video and clarifying where I may not have been clear. Try my vocal course if you want something very different. wmg.mykajabi.c..., and by request, here is the link to Puddles! • PUDDLES PITY PARTY SHO...

[@stevena3244]

I purchased Ken's 'How to Blow Your Own Trumpet' course. Now, I walk around with a ridiculous air of superiority.

[@PlanetHOfficial]

hahaha

[@WIP532]

My lack of confidence holds me back. Thanks for the advice, Steve 👍

[@TheShonuff888]

Like Ken says, the proof is in the syncing.

[@DoctorEnigma01]

😂😂😂

[@livingbeing1113]

Lmfao!😂😂😂

[@stevena3244]

I saw Ken was worried about the guitar playing analysis, so I told him not two fret too much.

[@Q1776Q]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mojorisin8368]

He really stuck his neck out on this one.

[@scotthawkins7128]

Fret syncing

[@patrickmickey]

Bridge over troubled waters.

[@zachary_attackery]

more like Ten Kamplin, am I right guys?

[@geoffreywood5808]

Bottom line, in all the years Ken has been singing, and all the albums he has put out, why has no one EVER heard of him if he is “so good”.

[@25is27]

I agree. The only Tamplin I ever heard of is a Plumber local to me. Mr Tamplin - Self praise, by the way, is no praise at all!

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

When I heard about this guy on Fil's channel I had to google him.

[@blairhatton3066]

Because his songs are objectively dreadful

[@micheletotton9342]

Funny that's exactly what I was thinking

[@carolynjtoday]

Facts

[@danij5055]

Ken Tamplin is the most humble guy. Just ask him. I'm sure he'd tell you 😉

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

🤣

[@RaffaelWindgassen]

@@danij5055 He is actually so humble that he comes across as arrogant, just like his tounge is so relaxed that it looks stiff.

[@ANDY-h6m]

😂

[@utha2665]

In Australia we have an acronym that describes people like Ken. FIGJAM - Fck I'm Good, Just Ask Me.

[@dmaikibujin]

I, Too, Am Extraordinarily Humble! 😁

[@davidwilliamdanielthomas9305]

On the other hand, Puddles, who I have never heard of before, is an extraordinary vocalist. His clarity, his phrasing, his inflection and his subtle power are all masterful. It is a pleasure to listen to him.

[@flimmaytinstone8980]

Thank you…. Puddles

[@davidwilliamdanielthomas9305]

@@flimmaytinstone8980 Thank you, Puddles. You have an extraordinary, unique and strikingly beautiful and pure voice. I mentioned on your page that , to me, you inhabit a singular vocal ground located between Tom Waits, Klaus Nomi and Robert Preston. I apologize for my ignorance. I haven't watched TV for over 15 years but how did you train? Are you self taught? A natural talent? I am always curious as to the magic behind the curtain. Thank you for making my day with your talent.

[@flimmaytinstone8980]

@@davidwilliamdanielthomas9305 I started yelling at the age of two. From here I went to shouting. I learned pitch from an airplane propeller. Tone from a makeup kit. I taught some greats like the hulk and Cory Feldman. I’d say my greatest influence was Mr Haney from green acres. Sincerely…Puddles

[@geoffreywood5808]

I’ve watched many of Puddles videos. Great vocalist. I love his “mashed-up” songs. Takes the lyrics of one song and sings it to another song. Surreal.

[@MadcapShambleton]

@@flimmaytinstone8980 Your training has served you well - big up to Mr. Haney!

[@juantomas748]

Ken Tamplin once ate a Rubik's cube and pooped it out solved.

[@adiwild]

Chuck Norris did that too😂

[@bustercherry8734]

Then ate it again.

[@DumpTrump-4ever]

I heard in less than 5 seconds. Legend.

[@paulciampo2104]

He's just that good

[@dkpianist]

He also played a seven note chord on a six string.

[@gonzalollach1189]

I watch that Sebastian Bach's video with my son everyday, we always lough together when he jumps in over that beautiful voice. Insane. He's a meme of himself. Great video!

[@giuseppecapelli8328]

I have only known Mr. Tamplin on KZbin as a voice coach and I have never heard of him as a musician and concert performer, but I am Italian so I am excused. I think I will still follow him since he managed, with a 22 fret guitar, to play a note that only exists on the neck of a 24 fret guitar.

[@Speed.Racer.5]

😂

[@rabidpb]

Actually, it's a 21 fret guitar, which makes it an even more legendary feat.

[@giuseppecapelli8328]

@@rabidpb Sorry for my mistake I was comparing Ken's guitar with the one in Fil's hands when I saw his latest youtube video on the matter. Surely with 21 frets one is led to believe in miracles.

[@alanhetland1572]

It was divine intervention

[@carltroia6235]

At this stage now the guitar is miming itself

[@drebatista]

I hate when people compare Ken to Coverdale or Dio. He doesnt have the soul and the elegance of those two.

[@totallyfrozen]

People? Ken Tamplin compares himself to Coverdale and Dio.

[@quicktastic]

True respect is earned, not demanded.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

Today coach Ken taught me to sing in a 45 deg angle to the mic from 3 feet distance. Thank you, Ken.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

That's how they do it in the pros! :)

[@Cloudburzt]

I laughed when I saw the video of him singing/playing. I have only casually watched his videos in the past on KZbin and thought his tongue technique looked a bit weird. But that video Devon showed here in the video was ridiculous. Just looked like miming to me. I'm no expert, but the microphone technique looked weird indeed (not to mention the guitar playing).

[@johndelconte9915]

@@Cloudburztmy guess is his followers and supporters aren’t musicians, or they’re beginners that haven’t found better tutorial channels yet. Some of them are free. I hope they do find them before they get discouraged and hang up their dreams.

[@johnsmilitantbelch]

​@@CloudburztI'm no musician, but that tongue looks all kinds of wrong

[@michaelharrington75]

​@@johnsmilitantbelch Wrong for singing, yes.

[@G..G..]

That "Puddles Pity Party" was just a wonderful performance. Such a beautiful voice.

[@Chez8922-kf6cy]

He is divine. I love his voice. I would drive a long distance to watch him sing.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

...And what a moving performer as well, right?

[@Cloudburzt]

I haven't watched all of this yet, only the first 3½ minutes, but in relation to something you said in your last video as well, and in this with "Ken, you don't have to say you're the greatest singer, the greatest vocal coach", this is my approach to teaching: I don't have a long career behind me in teaching and have never played professionally (but I've had some nice comments about my teaching, which I appreciate A LOT). However, one of the things I always highlight when teaching is "this is how I approach X, Y, Z..." or "this is what has worked for me in learning/understanding X, Y, Z...", and trying to find a way for a student that works for THEM to understand it - and that may be a different approach to my own, but I can still support that approach. Selling a course or lesson as "this is the BEST/ONLY way to learn guitar/singing/piano" always irks me. It seems your approach is not about gloating like Ken, that's for sure! I can always appreciate that.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

I like your approach, and I like what you said. Thank you, and all the best with your singing and teaching! BTW, I just subscribed to your channel ;)

[@Cloudburzt]

@@devon-graves-studio-D I appreciate that so much! Thank you - that's a bucket load of motivation for me to keep going right there! I have a few guitar covers of Psychotic Waltz on my channel but plan on doing more.

[@KevinHallSurfing]

Playing "live" hitting the 24th fret on a Fender Squire, amazing when Strats have 21 frets but Ken swears he is playing it live? 🤔🤣😂

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

That was a different video. I checked his high note on this one and it was indeed on the 21st fret... at least.

[@alijafri2022]

Puddles! What a legend! Here's someone so talented that he doesn't need to justify anything to anyone. Never has. Perhaps Mike Geier learnt from KTVA.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Not only do I love his singing, but his acting, his performance is quite moving. The way he acts depressed and hopeless between certain lines...

[@Chez8922-kf6cy]

Legend indeed.

[@scottjensen1513]

He needs to SWALLOW HIS PRIDE !! But as a said in another text to you, narcissists NEVER ADMIT THEYRE WRONG OR EVER HAVE BEEN WRONG. So everybody DO T HOKD YOUR BREATH.

[@bradashlock]

Your metaphor about playing a guitar at the 24th fret captures the issue perfectly!

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Thank you!

[@ryanmattie974]

He doesn't delete the comments, instead he sets them to that "hide comment from channel" setting. If you go look, your comment looks like it's there but no one else can see it. Imagine policing every single comment on your Facebook, Instagram and KZbin. You'd need to hire staff

[@Jade_902]

I looked and Devon’s comment is not there on that video. Last comment singing praises to KT was 9 days ago.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Unbelievable LOL

[@PeteC62]

OMG so KZbin literally has a "shadow ban" setting.

[@covers_girl]

​@PeteC62 yes, that's what makes KZbin so insidious. So many people over the years think their conment is being ignored, while in reality only they can see it.

[@jonny5alive123]

Why would Ken sing over double tracked songs with backing vocals, drums,etc and pretend that it’s live. It’s so obvious that he is miming.

[@petermorrissey3698]

Coz hes an idiot thats so far up his own backside he doesn't think mere mortals like us could catch it.

[@loisr1560]

I had never heard of Ken Tamplin until all of this blew up. He is so far up his own a@#$ he can touch his tongue.

[@kubacube342]

same

[@acatnameddoerak]

Apart from the incrowd nobody has. And after all this lying even his dear Lord doesn't want to know him anymore. Still, why am I so sure that Trump would speak highly of him, if he knew Tamplin? Though at the same time I'd assume that Trump would say he's actualy be a better singer and guitar player than Tamplin.

[@RavenLuna-ii6lx]

[@michaelharrington75]

Maybe that's the problem with his tongue?

[@michaelharrington75]

​@@acatnameddoerak People gotta find a way to bring Trump into a discussion that isn't even about Trump. TDS is a real disease.

[@markototev]

At this point he's not waving. He's drowning. Let's wave back at him!

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Ha! Nice one!

[@markototev]

@@devon-graves-studio-D Keep making these vids and I will find a way to make it relevant to at least one lyric every time! :D

[@markhamstra1083]

Poor chap, he always loved larking

[@davidroach1567]

Love your commentary. My old football coach said this. “What people say about themselves out of arrogance reveals their specific weakness and jealousy”. I think Ken reveals it clearly. Sadly he is getting more popular because of it still.

[@ryanmattie974]

I don't think it's the attention he wants tho

[@andrevuurboom3710]

I'm just flabbergasted that people really think Ken was singing this live, unbelievable... Righthand picking was just out of this world... 😅🤣 Had to pick myself up from the floor laughing

[@ryanmattie974]

Yeah that elbow technique is just horrid. His thumb on his left hand is all over the place too. He has zero lead guitar technique.

[@paulphoad]

Maybe got this wrong. The lip sych was very obvious and I'm sure Ken didn't really expect anyone to beleive he was actually playing and singing live. ..people aren't that stupid...surely!@@

[@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549]

Ken has potential to win the Air Guitar World Championships. He shreds that well.

[@jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner]

I've always looked up to Ken and his work, but this lip-syncing scandal has completely shattered my respect for him. It's a real shame to see someone build a career on something so dishonest

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

He "hid" my comment which allows me to see it, but no one else. That is borderline psychopathic deception imo. I think not be finished with him yet. But my promise was this is my last word on the topic, being lip syncing. I won't talk about THAT :) I didn't use to totally dislike him, but now it's a different story. Not as much about my comment, but watch his video on "How to sing Painkiller" where he claims to sing it better than Rob Halford LOL

[@DomVonDoom]

​@@devon-graves-studio-DI believe that is called "Shadow Banning" and it's practiced by thin skin narcissists.

[@jonashornqvistgitarrlektioner]

@@devon-graves-studio-D He claims he can sing better than the metal GOD Rob Halford? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

[@carstenfisch9990]

I just want to thank Ken for bringing up your video about him to my feed. I did not know you actually have a channel until now. Watching your stuff backwards now. I am a fan of yours since I saw you July 7th 1993. Didn’t knew who you were, some friend said waltz is worth going.. and you blew my head straight off. Still got that ticket to this day. I hope I get a chance to see you again live.

[@aminyakunda]

Hehe, similar here :) But I haven't had the chance to see either PW or DT live :(

[@MauiPunter]

When I saw Ken slag on Steve Perry and Sting, I was like, what????

[@luapjb]

Humility is perhaps the most underrated of all virtues; you went said it so well from 4:20.

[@jpmc9584]

Wonderful video. Great to listen to someone speak with a great understanding of how different vocalists express themselves. Having spent a lot of time in recording studios myself, it's always so easy to detect when a performance is mined, and that's in the direction from where the sound comes. I know that for most people who haven't had that experience of recording could easily be fooled into believing that what they believe to be live really isn't, but not for the trained ear. An example of what I'm talking about was wonderfully demonstrated in the performance of Puddles that you played and who I'd never heard of before but instantly loved. But when you watch and listen to this performance every movement he makes around the microphone whilst singing changes the expression of every word, you don't get that when a performance is pre-recorded and mimed to. REN is another artist who very masterfully demonstrates how playing with a real live vocal performance can express a song in a much greater way as he demonstrates in The Tale Of Jenny And Screech, or Hi REN. So thanks for talking the time to do this video and for introducing Puddles Pity Party, I'm a fan now.

[@epicduckdoctor]

My favourite Ken video is the one where he's trapped inside an invisible box.

[@komoru]

Someone needs to put up a public challenge to Ken and tell him that if he can sing/play a stripped down version of this on a livestream with no backing track, in the same key as in his 1989 studio recording, a large check would be delivered to a charity of his choice. The rules would be simple: all he can bring is his guitar, pedal board, and an amp. The studio would supply the rest. This could be done at any neutral, third party studio near him.

[@AussieOutlaw]

IF he puts a Copyright strike on your Channel you simply put in a dispute, Meatloaf the performer tried to do that for my Video on my channel many years ago , he put his legal team on to me but I refused to back down, that Video has almost a million views to this day

[@LegendLength]

KZbin love putting their climate change fact checks under every video that remotely comes near the topic. Yet they allow Ken to lie and delete comments.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

On what grounds could I dispute? It's already claimed by both Ken AND The Pixies. I won't get any revenue anyway. I heard it is worse to loose a dispute.

[@HulaHula667]

@@devon-graves-studio-D Fair Use - you’re allowed to use clips of other people’s content for commentary/criticism/illustrate a point. As long as you acknowledged who/where the clips are from you should be fine.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

@@HulaHula667 Thank you!

[@HulaHula667]

@@devon-graves-studio-D Welcome! 😄

[@Spenke]

Great video Devon. Sound, humble, critically thinking and highlights why it’s so important that everyone realise truth when someone’s big ego is trying to bend others to the opposite. The puddles pity party was awesome. It would be really nice to hear your take on Devin Townsend live recording of Kingdom in studio. That take always blow me away. Great video, great things said. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Sweden !

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Devin Townsend is absolutely Godly. I saw something in the sealy 200s called "Safezone" If I remember correct. Live in the studio. Flawless and jaw-dropping.

[@rudel1950]

I couldn't agree more,... well spoken my friend : ) There is a fine line between arrogance and acknowledgement,... it is not the horn which powers the diesel!

[@jackblevel8296]

Puddles is an amazing singer ❤ Thanks for sharing, I would never have known about him.

[@launtschuannfoa9122]

Devon, still you are a gentleman! True words but nicely spoken!!!! All the best for you!!! :) :) :)

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Thank you so very much :)

[@Nevertoosweet2eat]

YES, yes , you hit it exactly the way it is, so true. Hopefully if KZbin takes this video down, remove or edit the part KZbin first disapproves, you please put it back up (after edit) because you really brought the truth forward.

[@staex]

I don’t know a thing about Ken Tamplin, but to every one brought here by this guy: If you‘re interested in great rock music, I recommend Psychotic Waltz. 😊

[@DemokratiedesProletariats]

Fantastic band with an awesome singer! 😉👍

[@Asphaltheizer]

Funny, but i can´t find your comment under Ken´s video... Ken, the master-deletererer ?🤣

[@Peter-42istheAnswer]

Yeah, that was quick. He must watch everything with a hawk's eye, have people helping him, or some kind of AI doing it. I just hope people continue exposing him this way until he comes clean (IF he ever does). I feel bad for his potential students who haven't heard about all this and buy his material in good faith.

[@ozzie444]

Ken has been very busy the last couple of weeks deleting comments from the videos on his YT channel.....lol

[@Stemma3]

Your comment is gone. Let's see mine. It's 11:35am (-3)

[@Peter-42istheAnswer]

@@Stemma3 Already gone I'm afraid. Latest comment that shows was 9 days ago. Hawkeye did it again.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

He "hides" these comments. That way the person who posted still sees it. I see it from my own channel, but not from someone else. Sneaky and very deceptive indeed.

[@carinaejag]

So the song is his own and he writes that it is one of the greatest pieces of music ever written? Mind blowing 🤐

[@cindi1313]

I noticed that too! Whaaaat? 🤦‍♀

[@tohaason]

Wow. (~ 15 min in) Any guitar player watching two seconds of that can see that the playing doesn't time with the music. And that right hand is just ridiculous.

[@Skibbidyboobop]

Which performance?

[@tk7836]

Lol, of course, Puddles! 🤣. Cool example, love his version of Holy Diver with Primus. He is legend!

[@mahalayananda]

I love your approach, like also Phil from wings of Pegasus. Clear and factual and humble as it should be. Ken's personality truly gets in his own way. Thank you for sharing Puddles Pity Party, what a wonderful voice. I love when musicians bring other musicians forward.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Puddles is a treasure♥

[@deepalkessa8938]

I love the way u take out the positives of him before going down with the issues of the whole situation. I used to watch some of his videos, and yes i love the video of Sabastian Bachs singing that particular song was impressive its one of my favorite live songs of Sabastian. I hope he comes out with the truth on the backing tracks lip syncing. Another musician i love, but would really want to know if they miming is Nikki Sixx.

[@gb-bp1me]

Great video. You distilled it down making it easy to understand. Thank you.

[@Kevin-j5w2w]

I think I once heard somewhere that Ken beat Chuck Norris in a fight😮

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Ken can also bake the most delicious cake ever.

[@PianomanMusic96]

I almost spat coffee EVERYWHERE!!! "You love yourself" LOLOLOLOL

[@MadcapShambleton]

Devon, this was as thoughtfully and genuinely presented as could be. (Your previous take was good, too.) I only discovered you (and subscribed!) because of the whole "I"m not just Ken, I'm the best Ken ever" story via Wings of Pegasus. I just had a look at The Ken's video (12:45 am EST, Oct. 11/24) and interestingly, there are still 462 comments...yet yours is gone, as are the two that were below it. There are now seven more from two years ago instead, like the rest of them. But what's most striking about that video is that anyone can or should so easily see and hear that his singing and playing is not only not live, it's so laughably faked. For a Christian Metal musician, he seems awfully proud of himself. Perhaps the genre is about living just some of the seven sins instead of all of them. I'm off to join the Puddles Pity Party now!

[@pitpride1220]

Puddles has done great work with Post Modern Jukebox! Thank you for doing another detailed Tamplin video.

[@PaBuzz1]

Very eloquently put my friend. Thank you

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Much appreciated, my friend!

[@aminyakunda]

KZbin can be weird sometimes.. I've been listening to Deadsoul Tribe for like fifteen years now, and suddenly YT recommends me Devon's video because of this Ken Tamplin fiasco :]]

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

companies such as data analytica have socially profiled every user on the internet. they target viewers with loaded content. it all came out back around 2016 with the election over in the USA.

[@ToddSauve]

Proverbs 27: 2 Let someone else praise you, not your own mouth-a stranger, not your own lips.

[@lavalizard1]

Refreshing to hear such an intelligent critique and references to musical context. I’m glad KT has exposed your channel to folks - you’ve got another vocalist subscriber as a result. Cheers.

[@musick777]

Not to mention you would hear some of the picking and strumming of the electric guitar if that mic were turned on.

[@Bad_Phil]

On a performance before Covid struck, someone recorded it. I was singing into a Sennheiser e945, and every time I looked down at my fretboard, there was a noticeable dropout in my vocals, and not just tone, so yeah, any big changes in the mouth-to-capsule alignment cause significant changes that can really mess up a performance.

[@KerryLiv]

Humility. Honesty. Values so graciously taught in this video.

[@WEdHarris]

I really enjoyed your commentary on this subject! Well said! I followed this back when Fil (Wing of Pegasus) first did an informative and uncontestable analysis! You are absolutely spot on! Liked and Subbed!

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Thank you my friend!

[@vstrangejames]

I will thank Ken Tamplin for bringing me to this channel. New subscriber :D

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Awesome! Yes, thank you Ken!

[@danieltorrespy]

Thank you Devon. I agree with every point you make here. On a positive note though: I've noticed that sometimes it's a good thing for a vocalist/frontman to have their ego just a tad above the point of equilibrium. Particularly onstage. I've observed good reactions to this playing in a number of bands over the years.

[@medea27]

It's the difference between a healthy ego & an inflated one... Ken certainly seems to fall in the latter category!

[@richardthelionheart01]

I was trying to hone in his equipment to see if there were any audio signals - say syncing with his guitar, etc. I couldn't see any track metering anywhere. It's nice to know that equivalent world class recordings on par with anything genius ever recorded needs only a $99 Squire Strat.

[@mamakath1966]

After watching the Corey Feldman guitar solo video...wonder if Corey took lessons from KT?? 🤔🎸🎶

[@moggiee1]

So much truth in this vid. Thank you

[@jakenogard9667]

Great video🤘🤘🤘 Please exposed this guy Ken Tamplin. He is arrogant and he doesn't deserve all those subscribers he had.

[@Solitude54]

Puddles always leave me with a melancholic smile on my face. He is wonderful! 🙏🏻 Now, there is a real singer, from top to toe. 🎤 Ken Tamplin on the other hand… 😵‍💫

[@yiannismanopoulos]

I can't believe that some people nowadays can accuse you of being too polite, too objective, and not playing it judge enough towards other people!

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

I think they meant it good-heartedly.

[@Katatawnic]

I absolutely adore Puddles! One of the purest voices you'll ever hear. I've had many binges, myself. The clown suit did take some getting used to, though. lol I love that you used Puddles as an example of what perfect live singing looks like. The way he works the mic is so smooth and subtle that most people wouldn't even consciously notice unless they're looking for it. Every singer should strive to reach Puddles' flawless stage presence as well as vocals. (Obviously I'm referring to his execution, not necessarily his style.) Many won't *quite* achieve it, but setting the goal will be incentive to always work on improving.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

The clown suit indeed, but now I wouldn't have him any other way. Unique. That is the hardest thing. To be unique.

[@MSTmike3KVHS]

The proof is in the syncing

[@billsybainbridge3362]

You made some salient points, and thanks for including a portion of the live video singing to contrast. There's a larger point to be made though that I'm afraid Ken may have fallen victim to: the desperation that many people feel to "overblow their horns" because of the pressures of Social Media, and the Parasocial Dysfunction that feeds it. It's heavy to consider the last, but it perfectly encompasses the huge fault in our social fabric that is tearing apart our planet, in nearly every context.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Point taken. I admit I am not innocent of that.

[@MauiPunter]

Puddles is amazing. I have been following him for a decade it seems.

[@1satisfiedmind]

Ken, is a public figure, so he should understand that scrutiny comes w the territory. Your point about humility is spot on. I think the Lord (if you believe) exposes us (proud Christians) to humble us. "He humbles the proud." But, if you humble yourself (choose humility over pride) , "humble yourself...and HE will lift you up" Ken just needs to be the best he can be, no lies, no faking it, no bringing other down to promote himself, if he does, and he's genuine, His God will see to it he succeeds (He will lift you up). Ken isn't fighting you, or Fil, he's fighting someone higher, who has his best interest in mind. I hope he stops and just fesses up. Everyone will accept that and give him grace. Otherwise, he's becoming a huge turn-off to listen to. I appreciate the way you presented this. Hard truth, but with kindness. Good job.

[@medea27]

How ironic that the real clown wasn't the one wearing the make-up & pom-poms. First time I've ever seen Ken and within 30 seconds it was plainly obvious it was mimed... I've seen 1st time drag queens with better lip syncing skills than Ken! There's two dead giveaways for me... the "studio mix" sound (with those conveniently balanced harmonies that never over-step his vocal)... and repeatedly missing his cues by a fraction of a second (something I learnt from theatre pros & drag artists indicates a performer who's "chasing" the lip sync instead of matching the vocal performance). It just made the ego in his video description doubly eye-rolling. And I knew I'd seen Puddles before... I was wracking my brain until you mentioned Primus, that performance was brilliant! I'm excited to track down his 'War Pigs' cover now, I _love_ hearing more classically-trained vocalists like Puddles cover that track. 🤘😎

[@Katatawnic]

Watch out, you may find yourself on a Puddles binge! lol He was on one of those competition shows several years ago. I think it was America's Got Talent, but maybe it was a different show. I don't watch them. Anyway, he was loved, and has had a following since. He's also worked with Post Modern Jukebox quite a bit. I didn't know he appeared with Primus. Now I have to go find it.

[@minorharmonicscale]

Quick test for anyone doubting he’s miming. Borderline (recorded version) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qafNYWiBh7WYqZYsi=BgtNrbgmMVFTLZY7 Paus at 0:54 Open: (”live”-performance) kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6PKaq2deNV_racsi=GtjMmR_x_ZQQpJVo Paus at 5:40 Try to play them at the same time.(have on paused and play the other when it’s close to the timestamp) Now you will get an echo effect, because it’s the same track.(the recorded one) played twice. Play with volumes. Want to do a more detailed analysis download the soundtracks import and see them match perfectly :)

[@Pianodean]

I didn't even have to do any pausing. That guitar player is NOT playing that solo live and Ken is lip syncing the crap out of those first lines. Watch his mouth when he sings the word "DANGER ZONE". The singing fades out yet his mouth is still wide open "singing" the word ZONE.

[@TheZotman5]

When you first brought up this Puddles cat, I thought it was Devin Townsend in clown face.

[@lastgunman5270]

Word! And yes, I really love Puddles cover songs!

[@Tinuvielthefair]

I actually like that you're kind in your criticisms. Don't pull punches, but don't bring kind. You seem to be a beautiful. Make music, and hearts happy. Music can change the world. :)

[@ashscott6068]

I think it's disgraceful that he deletes all the negative comments - so he obviously reads them - but he left a comment saying that was a virtuoso guitar performance. He saw it and was like: Well that one is true. I'm leaving that one!

[@timdhudson]

Anyone ever notice you never see Devon and Puddles in the same room at the same time?! Hmmmm? 🤔

[@ColinGames974]

isn't the Nuemann M a condenser mic? If so then wouldn't Ken's voice be a lot quiter aswel when he was looking down and to his left our right?

[@ozzie444]

Excellent. Very well said..... Ken should watch this video, more than once. Hopefully what you've said might sink in with Ken.

[@jacieosborne8283]

Very well said. I watch Fil's videos and I have learned so much about music from them. I can't carry a tune in a bucket but I appreciate your honesty regarding this whole debacle. I watched Ken critique Steve Perry - who is my all time favorite singer - I turned it off before it finished. In my opinion his singing can't compare to Steve Perry. So, I appreciate your professionalism in your video and I have to add I have never heard Fil make a nasty comment about any performer in his videos. So I have subscribed to your channel and I look forward to your future videos. Keep up the good job. ❤️🎸🎤🎶🎵👍

[@PeteC62]

Thank you for reminding me about Puddles! I remember his brilliant Mad World cover from years ago, but haven't thought about him since.

[@yandor4799]

Estaba esperando que alguien haga un análisis de este video, en su tiempo cuando lo vi me pareció sospechoso y pregunte con mucho respeto si era en vivo porque sonaba exactamente igual a la versión de estudio, inmediatamente borraron mi comentario y me bloquearon del canal, cuando siempre di comentarios positivos a otros videos.

[@ruffcutz4112]

I dont see your comment on his page anymore. Also Puddles has been my jam for a few years now. So good to see him mentioned here!

[@Wizardofgosz]

"Nearly identical to Dio"???? BOLD STATEMENT. Now I need to seek that video out.

[@eddiehewie]

Man, your so right........Ken wants everyone to be Ken, and anyone else isn't good enough.

[@NoNotAChance]

The sad thing is that so many believe everything they see on youtube, tiktok or other places is 100% authentic. 50+ years of abusing my hearing with open pipe motorcycles, too loud practicing in my room and mixing in night clubs has ruined my hearing, but even through tinnitus I can hear inconsistencies in Kens studio performance. With that mic, not only would the voacls not be sharp, but I would also expect to hear noise from the pick or string rattle. BTW, great example with Puddles - he uses the mic wonderfully to change inflection and intonation.

[@norbertgrams7142]

Great Video Brother. Got the point

[@pesjp8244]

your comment has indeed been deleted. and the latest comment praising his guitar playing and singing is probably one of his many alt accounts where he showers himself with compliments again

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

I still see it there, but I didn't get my little ❤ reply like everyone else. Maybe he didn't see it yet.

[@spajdude]

@@devon-graves-studio-D Your comment has been hidden from everyone else but you, so called shadow banning. Go to that video without being logged in and you'll see that it's gone.

[@toria-j]

@@devon-graves-studio-D he may have hidden your comments - you would see it but no one else can. try opening the page in a private tab.

[@pesjp8244]

@@devon-graves-studio-D you see it but it was shadow banned for everybody else by ken. nobody but you can see your comment

[@kaicanyonellis]

I've been using Ken's vocal program for years. It changed my life. So I have a lot of love for him. That's one reason him being so disingenuous about lip syncing is blowing my mind. Just own up to it, dude! He can CLEARLY sing his ass off so lying about whatever happened that night is just totally unnecessary. As far as his critique of other singers goes - I've been following his channel for a long time, and in every video I've ever seen from him about these legendary singers - Freddie Mercury, Sebastian Bach, Steve Perry, on and on - he always says something like, "hey, I'm not trying to criticize them, and I'm just Ken Tamplin, I haven't done anything close to what they've done with their songs and their careers, I just want to approach this from the question of good vocal health and my own taste and preferences." So framing his comments there as him trashing people is a little weird. All that to say - he's doing and saying enough that if we just stick to the facts he's painted a pretty unkind picture of himself lately. There's no need to exaggerate any of his bad behavior. He looks bad enough.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

All good points, but the humble position you state about him saying he is "just Ken Tamplin" never came across to me. It was always him saying how he is doing it better, singing it higher... and today he really triggered me on saying he took "Painkiller" by judas Preist "a step further" by singing it in chest voice which is harder to do." But it certainly didn't sound better. Not by a stretch.

[@kdr955]

I don’t know anything about recording music, and I know he’s miming.

[@TotalSinging]

ALL of you are a decade late. Myself, Robert Lunte, Brett Manning, Tony O'Hora and James Lugo have known he's been lip syncing for over 10 years. We never publicly called him out on it for fear of backlash in looking petty and jealous. If you watch our videos from 6-8 years ago, you'll see veiled references to Ken and his fakery.

[@dreamtheaterstryper]

Another great one! Thanks 🙏. But why are you and Fil saying „that’s definitely my last one on this subject“ - why shutting a door while it‘s entertaining as f*^%!? Please do more on it! What I think is mindblowing is the fact that Ken hangs his being a Christian and a missionary man for Christ while obviously the Bible tells not to lie, to be humble and pne should not exalt oneself and not think too highly of oneself. Ken missed all that obviously! And why is he always so hyper actively overacting? WTF. That’s not energy that must be some kind of hyperthyroidism (or white powder?) Man, man, man… phew 😅 But thank you very much on this well crafted video and the mention of the white clown singing - that one is awesome… I‘m gonna check him out on KZbin! Keep it up Devon!

[@Jonkerz77]

I´d much rather see more of Devons creative output, than to have him join in on bashing some guy who has already lost all credibility. No need to keep kicking Ken, in my opinion! If you enjoy that kind of stuff I´m sure there are other channels out there to scratch that itch.

[@dreamtheaterstryper]

@@Jonkerz77 😄 You‘ve got a point here and I agree! But sometimes seeing Karma hitting just makes me giggle!

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Hey, thanks for the encouragement! I don't have any more to add to the discussion. I deliberately held off on calling him out on his Christianity and the implications thereof, but believe me, it was tempting.

[@tenorhighc1]

you thank Ken for lying so you can get views! hahaha I love it. Now, that's honesty!

[@alanhetland1572]

He reminds me of David Koresh

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

I have a song about following faith leaders to your doom. It's called "Regret". The first verse is about his cult. The second about Marshall Applewhite and the third about Jim Jones. I will post a (real) live in-the.studio acoustic version shortly.

[@georgekaravasilis9197]

Great video !!! I can't find your comment on Ken's Holding On, today October 11th... deleted for sure. Agree with you 100%.

[@aaroncrosby2173]

Awesome channel. I love how you tell the truth. The truth needs to be told. Your channel will grow. You are not out to destroy anyone but exposing their deceit helps every one. These frauds should be exposed. Keep up the good work!

[@dantheman2907]

Man, Puddles is absolutely phenomenal!

[@jnemo2605]

Puddles doesn't clown around when he's singing, good voice.

[@tested211]

7:50 to paraphrase Bruce Dickinson: " Fundamentally, I'm a storyteller".

[@watsonstudios]

Also, I liked the reference you made to Jeff Scott Soto. I've mixed 5 or 6 six songs with him on vocals and he's a monster! Not only with his singing, but with his take on how a melody suits a song. Great guy to work with.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

Also another lovely humble soul. I had the privilege of crossing paths with him at more than one festival we both coincided. over the years. I also saw him sing with Yngwie on that Marching Out album when he was only 19. I was 18. He was perfect. Also, the guy up close still looks no onlder than 30, though he is definitely pushing 60. Last time we met wasn't that long ago.

[@douglascaskey7302]

What you're describing - with Puddles (AKA Michael Geier) - is "proximity effect", where the tone of the mic will vary depending how close or what angle you are to the mic. This can be a good or bad thing. Often you may not want the tone to keep changing - especially in a live situtation like for those that want to cup the mic... where the sound can become muddy in the low end compromising speech intelligbility. This is where a mic like the Heil PR-35 excells. as it exhibits little proximity effect. But yes... for those who understand what's going on, you can tell that Puddles movements match the sound, Tampons don't.

[@devon-graves-studio-D]

I have the Heil PR.35 and it is a life-saver. I wasn't specifically referring to proximity effect, though that is in there a bit when he gets in really close to wonderful affect. It's. More about how the level shrinks and swells organically, as he moves back and in.