The Last Name Game

Should Adrienne change her name after she gets married? Tamera, Jeannie and Loni share their advice in this Girl Chat. Check it out and give us your two cents below.

[@knight7se7en]

Right before my wife and I got married we had this discussion. I basically told her that the decision was hers and hers alone to make. If she wanted to change her last name outright, cool. If she wanted to hyphenate her name, cool. If she wanted to make her maiden name her middle name and take my last name, cool. If she didn't want to change her name at all, cool. It's *HER* name, it should be *HER* choice. Point blank. Later for that forcing-women-to-do-this-and-that nonsense. It is 20-friggin'-16.

[@fatimaolumee4517]

AMEN.

[@fennyyahtaylor6772]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@MegaCadette55]

zamnnn ! silence in the room! guys we have a winner!...And husband of the century award goes to...u're such a kool and open-minded husband dude!

[@dianaarteaga7411]

Is Tamera pregnant¿ -just a question dont go crazy on me lol

[@dore5544]

+Diana Arteaga no she had a baby already she losing weight lol

[@lm.2398]

Meanwhile the husband is just over here chilling, not having to make decisions about traditions rooted in sexism.

[@K.aylarenae]

L M. And u know that how 😂 Men can change their last names as well, if they choose not to, that's not a problem

[@roginaibrahim7317]

Changing ur last name isn’t sexism...?

[@ElmTreigh]

@@roginaibrahim7317 back in the day, the woman was either sold or promised to a man & she had to take in his name as "proof of property/ownership". It's commonly known that a woman marries into the man's family, not a man marries into the woman's family. Once a woman marries, she more or less, belongs to the man's family now. You rarely, if ever, see it the other way around. Which is why, if you're a woman, changing your last name is rooted in sexism for the reasons mentioned.

[@roginaibrahim7317]

ElmTreigh or maybe she just wants to take that name?? Why does everything have to be about that? You could literally tell Jeanie was trying her hardest to have Adrienne keep her last name when Adrienne was the one who wanted to change it herself. Plus you say “back in the day” it’s 2019 you can forget abt the past and just let people do what they do, if she wants to change it let her and live at peace. You don’t have to say “but you know it’s rooted from sexism!” That’s not necessary.

[@ElmTreigh]

@@roginaibrahim7317 I was commenting on how, for a woman, taking the last name is rooted in sexism for the reasons mentioned. I wasn't commenting on Adrienne specifically. I do agree with you that Jeannie was being a tad pushy in the subject. Correct me if I'm, but was Jeannie on her last days with her ex-husband? That could be a factor on her aggressive projection of the last name change. And again, you are right about the times, in that it has changed enough to where the woman can choose to change or keep her last name, however, there are still those that still believe that the woman SHOULD change her last name to her husband's for reasons, like the one's I've mentioned or because its tradition or because its within their culture. I'm Mexican American & it's in my culture, both within the family & religiously, to take the husband's last name. I even spoke to my boyfriend about it once & he said I was going to take his last name. When I asked why, he said because it's how it's supposed to be, its tradition, he liked that people would know I'm with him, etc. I asked him this in 2018. So the thought of ownership & property is still there, just disguised into "belonging" rather than "owning". Last names used to be made by a what a man's profession was. Like carpenter or blacksmith. Before, that, it was James of [insert town, city, & country] to identify. Or it was made by a combination of the parents names, father's name first, mothers name second, like Marbeat would have been mine. I do agree that it shouldn't be that way anymore, but reality is, to some extent, it still is. Which is why it's still a question us women have to ask. The man doesn't ask that about themselves. To them, its automatically known they'll keep their last name unless asked to change it by their wife, which admittedly is rare.

[@ddforever4188]

Jeannie I saw that shade 😂😂😂

[@joan354]

At the end when she says "when you're officially, officially, officially married"? If so I don't think Jeannie believes it'll happen nor last

[@niyah7139]

i agree with her

[@YPM498]

I thought I was the only one that noticed 😅

[@adl1585]

...and they said Tamar was shady? Hurricane Matthew just ran through that studio!! 😭😭😭🌴🌴🌴

[@calineotelo6244]

shiiiiii

[@okand5138]

"This is why I'm single" 😩 Girl, no it isn't.

[@myricktyana]

Hana K thank god I wasn't the only one who caught that!

[@gudgurlgonebadd]

that's what I said, when loni said that. like gurl bye lol

[@mjlovahh12]

Hana K it's not even realistic to me to be a 40 something year old and have not been in a relationship in years. She single, but I doubt she's happy about it

[@gigglingboyinthebackground3973]

I was like Loni, stop!!

[@steventurner5785]

Dee Jay omg you are all so stupid Chelsea handler is 41 single and super happy not everyone wants some serious thing (eye roll )

[@heatsd]

Adrienne, weren't you saying the same thing about Lenny? Get married first before you discuss these issues 🐸☕️

[@murielmelly7688]

IKR??

[@nibear8793]

Because its a discussion you have as a responsible adult.

[@SatorGrin]

+Nita Price-Cortes right. Lets wait till the day of to discuss how I hate your name honey.

[@MissCherryBaybee]

But this is an issue your supposed to decide on BEFORE you get married that's the whole point! Stop being a hater and trying to throw unnecessary shade!

[@lucyg.2971]

damn

[@abigailj2485]

Jeanie threw a lil shade too lmao "until you officially get married". Who else caught that?

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

Yeah that wasn't cool of her , mad disrespectful

[@Thisismyhandle423]

CapeVerdean.Barbie it wasn't disrespectful. She's been engaged like 3 times and never made it to the altar. I think Jeanie was just being real

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

It don't matter, still disrespectful !

[@NicieWilliams]

But Adrianne is not a Houghton UNTIL she gets married.. so I don't get the shade. Thats the truth

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

Uh Obviously DUH lol ! Shade is the part when Jeannie asks Adrienne to let her change her name on her phone to Houghton when she "officially" gets married. Although Adrienne isn't married yet, she will soon, she's still engaged, in love & serious about getting married. Jeannie came off a little disrespecful because it makes it seem like she's not supportive of Adrienne's decision. Others like @ LilDurk above^ might think it's because she's been engaged before and never got married so it's hard to believe it'll actually happen this time which is rude by the way. I like Jeannie & I'm sure she had no malicious intentions, perhaps it's because she prefers Bailon better , but that was unnecessary. & yup I wrote a paragraph lol hi5 if u read it

[@bookbag6432]

Only change your name is it is going to last. For Adrienne, girl keep your name.

[@tasteoftrace3837]

Lol I sense some 🌴🌴🌴

[@soadfanioanna]

alllll the shade, but still deserved

[@sxcgirlieox]

h Bag 😂😂 I yelled

[@EddyTheBetty]

h Bag 😂😂😂😂

[@preciouswilliams22]

Hahahahahahaha!! I'm still waiting to see if the wedding ACTUALLY HAPPENS (this is her 3rd engagement)... so until the minister pronounces them "husband and wife..." 😒😒😒☕☕

[@novivianngo]

In a lot of Asian cultures, it's totally normal for women to keep their last name. I'm Vietnamese and like Jeannie I probably keep my last name. I get what Loni is trying to say about a couple becoming one. However, to me I feel like my last name carries my Vietnamese culture & my own self identity. I think that's where Jeannie is coming from too.

[@user-ud6yq7it6m]

Exactly and if its about becoming one...why can't the man change his last name to yours?? Why do women have to do it

[@osimeon00]

How does a name carry your identity? Outside of the culture you reside in, nobody knows who you are or what your name means. Unless you sat there and explained in detail to every person who asked. The person inside of you and your memories and your family are what carries your culture and your identity. A name is a name.

[@novivianngo]

osimeon00 Being Vietnamese-American has a huge part to my identity. My parents gave me an American name so I can fit in but my last name always reminded me of my Vietnamese culture & roots. I think a lot of V-A. ppl can relate to me. A lot of my personal experiences growing up has a lot to do with my last name. I was made fun of for my last name & it took me a while to be proud of the last name my dad given me. If my last name was let say something white. Vivian "Johnson" for ex, I think a lot of my life experiences would be quite different. Changing my last name to something like that would make me feel like I'm erasing a huge part of what I identify myself as. Maybe you think a name is just a name. But to other people it holds significant value and life experiences.

[@leggs4113]

osimeon00 my father passed away a few years ago. My parents were never married so I always had my mothers last name. I was extremely close to my dad. I changed my last name to his to honor him. So don't tell me last names don't carry identity! I love my last name.

[@leahlewis2201]

I love that! I'll be the last Lewis in my family to carry the name and believe me, I'm not changing it when I get married. And my kids will have Lewis in their names, obviously not as a last name but maybe a middle name or something.

[@TiaTiaQueenOftoys]

the bible does not say you have to take your husband's name.

[@orlenecharles6590]

But it does say that the two become one flesh. Which means you don't have two separate names. Your one flesh now, you have the same name.

[@TiaTiaQueenOftoys]

Words coming from human being, not from god.

[@marissar.359]

So why can't the one name be the woman's?

[@imancampbell3207]

@ Tia Tia you are right it doesn't. But I think Loni was saying it's the way to show the world that you are now one with your husband. Biblically you are now one flesh and that is represented by taking on his name. It's not for everybody so to each his own.

[@janeryan2709]

Khadija Newell So why his name? Why not hers?

[@sxcgirlieox]

I feel like the more Adrienne talks about marriage on the show the more she's going to jinx it... Get married first girl and keep ya bidness private

[@ddforever4188]

Cosmic Angel girl you read my mind. It's too much is like I know she is excited but damn, is too much.

[@deserieoware7055]

I noticed it too, like I feel like they keep bringing it up because the ratings went down

[@highvibrations5447]

your tell'in the truth honey

[@melmel24247]

her marriage will not last if she continues to discuss and put her buisness out on the streets

[@yonissafa5191]

it's much info ...first of all she has to get married then she will talking about it if she want but this is getting annoying and irritating 😣😣😣

[@123tube456]

if the hubby wants a last name changed, he can change his. i am not your damn property that needs to be tagged

[@MegaCadette55]

chiiileeee!lmfao

[@scorpio3390]

I can't 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@123tube456]

***** okay let's go with that. So how come the husband doesn't change his to show unity? The kids can technically have the mom's last name too, there is no law that says otherwise. It's an archaic custom

[@EllaBelle18]

+Abyssiniya Sounds more like possession than partnership.

[@odesza7327]

Lol so damn right too.

[@nicolenunya984]

omg can someone tell adrienne that she can change her name IF she gets married but still go by Bailon professionally. sheesh girl

[@nicolenunya984]

Oh nvm tamer just told her.

[@nicolenunya984]

+Nicole Nunya tamera

[@javiruiz4405]

She is kinda special ed!!

[@nasiarena5208]

RIGHT???? geesh!!!

[@starrynightsleep]

Nicole Nunya “IF” KFJFHFF

[@obibraxton2232]

`Lmao Jeannie like: "I'm not changing it untill you 'officially' get married" obviuously no tea but that just tickled me.

[@peanutjelly727]

I didn't even interpret as shade until I read your comment lol

[@AlphabetSoup123]

LMDAO I was wondering if anyone else caught that shade. lol

[@AyeDatgurlYvett3]

Jeanie lowkey threw shade talking bout "can i change it when u actually get married" like girl get married first then think about these things

[@goodgirlvicki]

exactly

[@murielmelly7688]

I won't change my last name. I will forever stay and be known as Muriel Melly Melagne. Period. He can suck it up 😂😈

[@heatsd]

Muriel Melly you will if you want that ring

[@murielmelly7688]

heatsd​ Nope. My family name is Ivorian (West African) and there is NO WAY I'm changing it.

[@naomivanderhorst763]

Muriel Melly YESSS girl that's the pride I tell my momma about. Mine is Vanderhorst and I'm not changing that for nothing!!

[@naomivanderhorst763]

Muriel Melly YESSS girl that's the pride I tell my momma about. Mine is Vanderhorst and I'm not changing that for nothing!!

[@murielmelly7688]

Naomi Vanderhorst Amen!!

[@janelillyhammer3782]

girl keep your last name

[@breenee6995]

agree with Loni

[@Rooted_Locs]

Lipstick Nista Lmaoooo riiigh?

[@lawbsk1048]

all you woman who want to keep your last name need to start marrying your dad so you can official keep your name. like you didn't get your last name from your dad and mom didn't take his.

[@tyerra1213]

No sir, not everyone has their fathers last name and like Jeannie, some last names hold a special story or a culture that the person wants to keep with them. It's not always about disrespect

[@janelillyhammer3782]

+Law Bsk It's different for famous people

[@23imansaray]

I don't want to give up my last name because I am finally learning about my African heritage and what my last name means. To me I feel like Jeannie on this one: giving up your last name feels like giving up your heritage especially if you are blessed to have one.

[@Godluv4L]

Once again I agree with Jeannie I would never change my last name it represents all that I am, my family's story, my roots my everything and that would never change just because of marriage and I don't have to prove nothing to anybody, If some people wanna think that's because I don't really love him, it's not a real marriage or I still wanna be independent even married let them think it's my life. But I respect who chooses change her last name, only the woman in the situation knows what she pictured as a dream marriage and all the details it contains, that she dreamed all her life about it's a decision that will make her happy and I fully respect that you gotta do what you have to do to be happy, now I don't respect women that let people make their choices for them that's just a weak person with no personality

[@PrincessIdaBah]

Damn Jeannie.. Freddie can't have anything that's his no kids, no closet space, no last name no NOTHING lmaooo

[@loulougeezer]

He must really love her ...

[@Godluv4L]

He can have her love that should be enough if he's not good with it he can just BOUNCE

[@Nunofyabizzzzz]

no closet space though?😂😂 but fr where did they talk about that?

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

Lol right ?!

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

Now that don't mean she doesn't love him tho, I believe they do love each other .

[@maureenburke3312]

Because Loni lives by the laws of the bible...PLEASE.

[@ainamielantie9306]

i don't feel Loni this season she's

[@latachalexander3618]

I think it's cause they got rid of the other person she could cut up with the most and the vibe's not there anymore.

[@mi-moon_]

I don't think the Bible says a woman should take her husband's name.

[@kimberleywatson5077]

lool

[@austinfrombustop]

She was clearly joking -_-

[@andreszulainoo]

Hopefully she keeps Bailon as her stage name. I don't know if some of you people know them, but I really like how Carlos and Alexa PenaVega, who are actors and now youtubers, combined their last names and both took the combined name. Both their last names were short and mesh well though so I guess it wouldn't work out for all couples.

[@ArielLM13]

Every time Jeannie talks about her and Freddie, she's always like "The one major thing I asked of Freddie..." But it's like, 5 things. What did Jeannie even sacrifice for Freddie? She talked about how she gotta keep her last name, she won't have kids, Freddie has to be down with Vietnam, he has to get along with all of her family, he can't have her closet space. Like, damn Jeannie.

[@hiltonvillegas951]

Jeannie definitely wears the pants on her marriage.

[@alphamukeba2008]

jeannie is a selffish and act like a child,, i dont like her atittude with her husband.. poor freddie

[@MariahWyattBraxton]

It works for them though.

[@tdepp2311]

Ariel Matthews I think as long as he gets to hunt them animals he's alright lol. I agree with you tho, I don't remember any significant sacrifices she's said she's done for freddie

[@ArielLM13]

I wouldn't know what does and does not work for them but I've noticed a pattern of her speaking on how marriage is and then making hers sound pretty one sided.

[@EddyTheBetty]

I changed mine, I wanted to. Its also more of a tradition. I agree with Loni. When I have kids I want all of us to have the same last name as a family.

[@KLB1218]

Jeanie: please, it's typical you wouldn't take your husbands last name or have children with him! And Adrienne, you KNOW you want your fiancées last name, you just wanted something to talk about. Tamera: you've have FIVE years to change your last name legally! LOL

[@butterfly2847]

I WISH SHE WOULD PLAN HER WEDDING QUIETLY AND NOT TALK ABOUT IT EVERY WEEK. GIRL..... REMEMBER LAST TIME WHAT HAPPENED -_-

[@rodriguezk96]

exactly

[@gigglingboyinthebackground3973]

Remember Starr Jones & Sherri Shepherd!!!!

[@melfigue2516]

The thing is when youve been through a failed engagement before you already know what you want and you have experience. She knows what she has and shes sure about what shes doing this time. Let her enjoy it! #beentheredonethat

[@zhanebeard9834]

last time she had no wedding plans at all she even said this time she does can you guys just be happy for her damn its her life not yours

[@melfigue2516]

Zhane beard Exactly!

[@ambareenvisram5877]

It's surprising to see such seemingly modern and independent women have such old-fashioned views, especially Loni. I agree with Jeannie, your last name represents your roots and where you come from. Instead of being proud of the name that she has established her career on, Adrienne is just counting down the days until she can change it.

[@imancampbell3207]

You are clearly missing the point but if you aren't Western you won't get it. It is the fact that Adrienne has the right to CHOOSE to take his name. In the West whether North America or Western Europe we have the right, as women, to choose. No one is forcing Adrienne to do anything she is doing it b/c she wants to. America is fundamentally Christian so in the bible 2 become 1 flesh and the symbolism of taking your husbands name represents that.

[@ambareenvisram5877]

+iman campbell I am "Western" and I know that it's a choice. I'm just surprised that so many women still CHOOSE to continue, what I think is, an outdated tradition. Especially celebrities, who establish their careers and their brands on their names, and whose marriages don't always last. It just doesn't seem like the smartest decision in my opinion.

[@bleudiamondbleu]

@@imancampbell3207 taking your husbands last name isn’t biblical because nobody in the Bible had last names. It’s no where in the Bible that you take your husband’s last name.

[@MarilennyPina]

My last name is pineapple so its staying lmboooooooooooo

[@Yuli2013]

Lmao

[@Makingmsmindset]

Hahahhaha

[@Ohana.O]

Loni, "They Become One..A wife takes the husbands name". I have a problem with this, like aside from a long tradition of this, why is it that woman are the ones literally bringing life onto this world, and the man gets to brand the baby with his name, as well as the wife?(It's a long standing tradition and I don't care that people do it, but other than to follow tradition, I just want to know why they do it?Why can't it be the other way around?? Here, I thought progress was good. )

[@enjinks]

Maybe because at that time, most women didn't work, and that was a way to reinforse to men they have to take care of their wife/childs and not dump them ?

[@Ohana.O]

Perhaps.

[@makaylarobinson2917]

Honestly I don’t care what other people do In my heart I feel like the woman should take her husbands last name because to me that’s one of the big differences between dating and marriage but People can do what ever but if I get married I’m 100% changing my last name

[@kimberlyrok]

i get what jeannie's saying. i love this show cause its so cool to see a viet woman on national television on a regular basis and to see a viet last name pop up.

[@yendib1021]

was I the only one that thought, when Adrienne said "it's official people" that she was going to say her and Isaiah broke up?. lmaooo xD

[@sandyboo2]

umm Israel?? LMAO

[@bdoti1822]

Yendi B Isaiah😩😩😂

[@yendib1021]

Omg oops.. yeah Israel.. i knew it was some "I" name in the bible 😂😂

[@sandyboo2]

Yendi B its okay lol

[@lexi205]

LMAO RIGHT OMG

[@ren55610]

"That's what the Bible says..." Really Loni 😐. What does the Bible say about premarital sex (because I'm sure that you're not a virgin) and excessive amounts of brown liquor?

[@ren55610]

I didn't question that it isn't stated in the Bible. I wrote, "Really Loni." There was no question mark after that, nor did I say, "Where does it say that in the Bible?" That being said, whether I judge someone, I'm entitled to my opinion as much as you have a right to yours. Have a good day.

[@Isaacthedondada]

Ebony La'Shawn ... You missed the entire point. "Christians" love to quote the Bible but won't quote the Bible. You don't pull out what you want and ignore the rest. It doesn't matter if the whole world has premarital sex, if it is wrong in the bible, followers of Christ are not supposed to do it. And this comment wasn't judging, just pointing out hypocrisy. I mean, I love Loni and didn't take this seriously, but no judging was done..

[@kaichen04]

Jesus was turning water into water at parties. I'm sure he doesn't mind drinking.

[@Unknown-zk4nl]

NOT THE BROWN LIQUOR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ValerieAbena]

If I didn't know Adrienne and watched this for the first time, I'd think she was marrying some tall fine Hispanic man

[@SermonsSubtitled]

There's a difference between becoming ONE and becoming HIM.That's why I'm for the hyphenated name, because it reflects more the real situation of the marriage which is they both become something NEW, a couple. And their shared identity is not the same as his single identity.The woman does not give up her identity and take HIS one, hence it should also reflect in the names.

[@vlo4829]

Well for those who question how "real" some of the segments are, Loni got real with this one. I like that.

[@lionelluva]

I'm with Loni ALL the way! When I get married, my last name will be dropped and I'll gladly take my husband's last name.

[@imancampbell3207]

Co-sign! I was raised Evangelical so maybe that's why but I was always taught to take my husbands last name. If someone doesn't want to to each his own but don't give Adrienne a hard way b/c she chooses to take his last name.

[@SaturdayParker]

Especially since no one can pronounce mine

[@fatabk]

honestly all props to freddy for dealing with a woman like jeannie she's just the biggest ball buster and on top of that she's trying to get her friends to be like her

[@miaz3839]

I cannot imagine I have to take a man's last name. Name is part of ourselves, why not just keep both my and his name and fully married each other. Besides, why it has to always be the woman to give up part of her name?

[@ladyrodriguez6811]

Mia Z It's a mans world. Most people carry their fathers last name anyway, so from one mans name to another, it shouldn't matter

[@poke089]

In addition to what lady rodriguez said, about carrying one's father's name, this likely stems from what happened at creation as the Bible records: Eve was created out of Adam's rib, so in marriage to him, she's reuniting with the man, her man, becoming one with him. She takes on his name, and Biblically, Adam gave his wife a personal name, though they both received their race name (i.e. mankind/Adam/human) from God. The Biblical verses that document this in case you're interested: • _Genesis __2:21__-24 (KJV)_ 21 _And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam,_ _and he slept: and he took one of his ribs,_ _and closed up the flesh instead thereof;_ 22 _And the rib,_ _which the Lord God had taken from man,_ _made he a woman,_ _and brought her unto the man._ 23 _And Adam said,_ _This is now bone of my bones,_ _and flesh of my flesh:_ _she shall be called Woman,_ _because she was taken out of Man._ 24 _Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,_ _and shall cleave unto his wife:_ _and they shall be one flesh_ • _Genesis __3:20__ (KJV)_ 20 _And Adam called his wife's name Eve;_ _because she was the mother of all living._ • _Genesis 5:2 (KJV)_ 2 _Male and female created he them;_ _and blessed them,_ _and called their name Adam,_ _in the day when they were created._

[@lealaldering9714]

I think it's unfair that women have to be the ones choosing between last names... Nevertheless, I'd go with what Tamera did, in view of the fact that no matter what, I will ALWAYS keep my own last name. At the end of the day, this is an individual's own choice and I don't believe there is a right or wrong prevail. Each host has a valid point!

[@gely1739]

this is such an American thing to do. Im dominican Japanese and i have both of my parents Last names in my ID no problem. My dad has his last name and my mom has hers. Gely Suzüe Koizumi Gonzalez lmao

[@rodriguezk96]

I totally agree only Americans do this

[@crybabykermit8651]

Can I ask you a question?? You said you took both of your parents name, so in the future if you get married and have kids will your kids have to take BOTH of your last names and THEN take your husbands last name ???? Or will you just choose which last name you want your kids to have ???

[@crybabykermit8651]

And sorry if that sounded like really stupid question lol :P

[@rodriguezk96]

lavender cupcake I can answer this for you.... The kids will not take both of their mother's last name just the first one. For example; my father's last name is Rodriguez and my mother Diaz so my name is Karen Rodriguez Diaz, my son's name is Nathan Edward Rodriguez.

[@gely1739]

yep ^ 👌💯

[@heiditrigs]

I know this is late but everybody on here hating on each other... it’s the persons choice and whatever they want is what’s right. You change your name if you want to, you hyphen it if you want to, you keep it if you want to. Nobody has the right to tell you what is the right thing other than you.

[@EllaBelle18]

I hate how it's only expected for women to change their names. I was born with my name, and I'll die with it too. But I would understand if a few generations down my name gets dropped because then there are just too many names.

[@adrianagalindo7797]

Have my dad and my mom last name and I am so proud. I’m not just part of my dad’s family but my mom’s too. It connects me with my whole heritage.

[@allysonmessina1785]

i think it makes more sense to get your names hyphenated, when you come together as one your bring two souls that have two different histories and stories together to be one, to me if it sounds good hyphenated and you want that i think you should go for that!

[@samkelonkosi7416]

The way Loni said “sister sister” is so ghetto I LOVE IT😂😭😭😂🏃🏼‍♂️

[@clarke4400]

Adrienne already said in season 2 that she will take his last name. She's acting too brand new like she's never answered this question. Too much repetitive topics and the execution is extremely boring and forced‼️‼️💯💯

[@angelam.4353]

Michie Oo This is a completely different relationship, and I feel like she is keeping her guard up a bit longer time.

[@MegaCadette55]

^^^ gurl, whatchu mean about a bit longer? they finna get married in less than a year after the started dating lmao

[@ilhamahmed3989]

We keep our names thank god .....

[@ilhammohamed1982]

Ilham Ahmed Btw I love your name🙃

[@Starryeyes244]

yaas thank goodness for east african culture. I'm not giving up my last name for no man

[@candlecane]

Which country?

[@toyesmith8029]

mm

[@toyesmith8029]

mm

[@gabbym333]

I completely agree with Jeannie. My last name is MY NAME. It is the name that I have grown up with, and I'm not gonna change my name for nobody. I like what Alexa Vega (Carmen from spy kids) and her hubby did though, they combined both of their last names together. Now that is mutual respect.

[@dore5544]

Tamar we want Tamar

[@joejill51lala]

nah we good lol

[@dore5544]

+heatsd we all hear that

[@jazze.2729]

Vince loves her so stop disrespecting their marriage. He openly always admits he loves Tamar. I can't stand the people who only have known her during the duration of her time on THE REAL. I have been a fan of hers for the past 8 years, TAMAR we all know has an issue seeing where she's wrong but VINCENT LOVES THAT WOMAN! He goes above and beyond, says openly how he doesn't mess with any of the foolery and tells her all the time how beautiful she is without makeup, with it ,how sexy is, how talented she is. Yall don't even know their relationship to comment saying some b.s like that. Just because the media wants to showcase negativity doesn't mean its true!!! That is a couple who is going to stick it out for the LONG HAUL and divorce WILL NOT be in the cards for the Herberts i'll tell ya that. and this shows getting cancelled soon THANK THE LORD! But we can all watch Tamars new show coming next fall !

[@ibitolayusuf6290]

+Jay u are praying for the downfall of so many people involved in this show. yet ure thanking the Lord. ok.

[@ibitolayusuf6290]

+Jay u are praying for the downfall of so many people involved in this show. yet ure thanking the Lord. ok.

[@rudyABDUL]

I disagree with Loni. I agree with Tamera. That's it...

[@anaointa]

This was such an unproductive conversation...

[@AfrykaUnyque]

Loni got it right

[@kimchimiyuofficial]

I think (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION) When a woman falls in love and she marries the man of her dreams, she will always talks about him. Especially when the wedding is fast approaching. As a Filipino, we only get to marry once. Marriage for us is once in a life time. When I got engaged I always talk about my upcoming wedding back then because I was sooooo EXCITED! So, I understand where A is coming from. She is just excited about her wedding. Because I've been there so I understand her.

[@danyielsays4621]

i hated my last name growing up cuz no one can pronounce or spell it but now i love it😁 #proud #spanish #latino

[@rorob6865]

Daniel Figueroa ur name is on orange is the new black now anyways! Be proud ✊🏾

[@danyielsays4621]

omg really i didn't know??!! wow im feel super excited now yayy💪 thanx

[@FR-wg1jf]

is it fig-er-o-uh?

[@FR-wg1jf]

or figera?

[@rorob6865]

Daniel Figueroa yess go watch it! First season, miss Figueroa! Head of the ladies prison

[@AsomiJeddah]

It's weird that a country like the USA has such custom. Like why does the wife need to sacrifice her name, why doesn't the husband also do it 🙃. I just don't get it, in my culture everyone keeps their name.

[@Fatima-vf5tm]

Assma Ha mine too

[@Fatima-vf5tm]

Assma Ha mine too

[@imancampbell3207]

Well then worry about your own country then . I'm sure y'all have strange customs in your countries that ppl in the West don't identify with. If you don't get it it's ok this is show is an American talk show it's really not geared towards foreigners.

[@AsomiJeddah]

iman campbell this is the internet everyone is allowed to share their opinion. there is nothing offensive in my comment; i just stated that i find it weird. btw it is not like you americans are not sticking your noses in everyone's' else business, just saying ....

[@imancampbell3207]

Assma Ha I never said your comment was offensive. But the fact remains this is an AMERICAN talk show, hosted by Americans, taped in America, geared towards an American audience. If you aren't from the West or American you won't get it. They talk about American topics. I'm sure you can watch talk shows in your own country since you clearly can't relate to these topics. It's real simple...

[@elaulii4991]

Houghton is such a respected name in the Christian community and I understand that we live to please God and not man, but I hope Adrienne understand the kind of spiritual responsibility that she is taking on for the church and the world. All the best, baby girl and God bless xx

[@Ayami861]

It's all about personal choice. My husband said I could keep my name, hyphenate it or change it. I choose to take his name. I actually have a friend that her and her husband pick their own last name and both had it legally change. At the end of the day, do whatever makes you happy.

[@RaineX6]

this show has been pissing me off lately. i never liked Tamar but she was the Alpha as far as i'm concerned. she told it like it is, didn't care if people didn't agree with her opinions, and it was refreshing. Loni seems to have taken over the Alpha role but she's taking it too seriously. she's not being funny as much and she instead cuts people off constantly just to get her 2 cents in. she's a lot more aggressive now that Tamar is gone and you can tell it kinda gets to the other women sometimes. Tamar did the same thing and constantly cut people off but that was her thing. it's not Loni's thing and Loni used to be really nice and mushy so i just wish she wouldn't try so hard to be the obnoxious one.

[@unavailable0399]

oh shut up. yall always calling black women aggressive for being opinionated. you act like she slapped them for having a different opinion. you sound dumb as hell. a black woman having a opinion is being aggressive and alpha and masculine smh

[@RaineX6]

C heart that was not my intention AT ALL. sorry if it came out that way. i was simply trying to point out that Loni is usually really sweet but lately she's been cutting off the girls and her behavior reminded me of Tamar. i'm not generalizing all black women.

[@islandgal123]

Amna Raine UGHH loni been gettin on my damn nerve this season too

[@unavailable0399]

Amna Raine yeah i can agree loni can be annoying at times as well as jeannie but aggressive is a stretch

[@murphyl8782]

I now see the value in Tamar rolling her eyes, making noises, twisting her lips extra hard, raising her hand to interrupt and saying "girl bye" when Adrienne and Jeannie are saying something silly, naive or overly positive, which they do a lot. Adrienne and Jeannie are too focused on being positive and supporting everything, but I thought the title of the show meant being bold enough to call out nonsense. Seems like when they read the comments of people "keeping it real" Adrienne always says the "negative" commenters don't have a life, then Jeannie gives a positivity speech. Why even bother bringing up gossip topics if Adrienne and Jeannie don't want to gossip? They don't have to be nasty, but don't try to put a positive spin on dumb things and say a negative comment means someone doesn't have a life, then turnaround and use those negative comments in "we read you". Maybe Loni is becoming different because without Tamar cutting the foolishness off she's stuck alone trying to be "real" and maybe she's becoming annoyed. If Loni wasn't speaking out and being "real" this show would be unbearable, and clearly these grown people in the audience didn't come to the show to hear a bunch of overly positive look in the mirror and believe you can fly speeches, because they clap loud and hard when Loni keeps it "real." I wish Loni luck, it's a dream come true to have a show but man when you're alone in your opinions.....

[@lenoraharbance9166]

she just wanted the attention. she knew all along she want to have her man last name.... wdf that have to do with anybody. that's your personal choice. you don't need to discuss this one the show.

[@odesza7327]

right smh I don't know why she think her personal mess lol is any of anyone's business or that we care like ?? get new topics people

[@BeautyAllOver77]

i love hearing about her wedding lol.. so do others so you may not like it but people do.

[@CoCoGemel]

I'm saying. They talked about this before already. Back when Tamar was still on in like the 1st season.

[@RoyalMasterpiece]

This could've been a good conversation, but they were talking over and interrupting each other more than normal. I never thought I would do a hyphenated name (no shade), but after my both of my parents passing, I will. I want to keep it and take my last name with my future husband's name. I think it's truly up to the couple to decide what works best for them.

[@SuckerPunch92]

1. Jeanie needs to read her bible because it does say that "two become one" 2. I agree with Loni ok im done

[@marzellholbrook6130]

the last name part is what she disagreed with not the Two becomes one part

[@CharreseMoniqueMusic]

Yes, I agree. The bible certainly says that two become one. You become one flesh. I agree with Loni as well. 💖

[@lionelluva]

I'm sooo with Loni. I'm glad she spoke up!

[@NallahBrown]

LONI IS SO CHILDISH LMAOO.

[@NaturallyBeautiuFUL]

Why is Jeannie married?? It always seem as if she doesn't need Freddy. Like, hints at she loves black men, she makes comments about other men and now she reveals she doesn't have his last name. It seems as though she demands a lot; and Freddy the doormat who obliges to all her wants. 🤔

[@ur_moon___]

Naturally BeautiuFUL I was thinking the same thing!

[@meliss90]

ikr every video she talks about something freddy had to sacrifice

[@meliss90]

***** did you read the WHOLE comment?

[@meliss90]

***** my point is that u didnt real the whole comment?

[@meliss90]

***** i wasn talkign about flirting with other dudes, i was talking about how she seems to make freddy make all the sacrifices, its basically as if shes single.

[@MissCherryBaybee]

Why are people acting like their whole identity is wrapped up in their name? I'm literally called a multitude of names by different people and if I changed one doesn't mean I would suddenly change as a person or change how I see myself. I'm a very strong woman yet I would happily take my husbands name so OUR family can have one common name!

[@CharreseMoniqueMusic]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@marissar.359]

It's the principle about why the woman is pushed to make the sacrifice yet the man gets to automatically keep his last name without question. There is literally no significant why the onus falls on the woman other than "that is the way it's always been."

[@maylightbewithyou]

@Missy R., thank you.

[@ciara2711]

Marissa R. Its not that deep unless you make it that deep.

[@FriendshipIsMagic1998]

Marissa R. Yes!

[@bbmshow6497]

I'm sorry but i just dont agree with jeanie. She doesn't want kids and she also didn't want to take her husband's last name. Seems selfish.

[@Isaacthedondada]

Melanie De La Cruz Its selfish to not want your sense of identity swiped away for a man? And not wanting kids is actually the LEAST selfish thing ever. Why force kids upon yourself when you didn't want them in the beginning. Not to mention the world is overpopulated and orphanage-stuffed as is. It is NOT a woman's job to bear children and be her man's property any more. 2016 .

[@MegaCadette55]

I hear you but it is not like she changed her mind after marriage. Freddy knew all about it before he married her. so fair play here

[@osimeon00]

This is the sh*t I been saying since day one. I have no idea why she even got married. She said on the show she regularly throws temper tantrums, goes to bed angry, doesn't give him enough sex, refused to give him a baby, lost her wedding ring, talked about his family members in a negative way, talked about his race in a negative way, emasculates him on the show, etc. She has no respect for her husband or the institution of marriage. I have no idea why she even bothered getting married if her biggest issue was taking his last name.

[@LadyStardust241]

It seems selfish to demand that someone take your last name and have kids if they're unwilling (and you know that they've been unwilling)...

[@judgeright2292]

she has admitted that she s very selfish

[@thiagobailon]

Adrienne Houghton? You tried it. Your brand has been Adrienne Bailon for more than 16 years. C'mon... Keep BAILON at least as your stage name.

[@crystalb4163]

Freddy sacrifice a lot in this marriage but did Jeanne🤔 Give him them kids already girl !!

[@sajini7925]

She'll be Houghton for 6 months.... keep Bailon. Houghton fucking reminds me of the Dr sues Elephant anyways girl.

[@vliciouss]

Lmao

[@tdepp2311]

jinixx 😂😂😂😂😂

[@KamalIsaiahMorales]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@OnyxGoddess]

😂😂😂😂 The disrespect

[@odesza7327]

LOL damn

[@Katijaaj]

I can't wait to take my future husband's last name!!

[@ib2304]

Adrienne is just so naive and ignorant. Schools obviously have the parents' names in their system. They're not gonna tell you you can't pick up your kid because you don't have the same name tf. I don't share the same last name with either of my parents due to our culture and we've never had an issue because of it.

[@sherrygg6551]

Nah schools are stupid. My mum wasnt allowed to pick up me and my brothers cause we didn't have her last name. It was crazy

[@trueking7158]

@@sherrygg6551 lmfao that was just for safety

[@Shaeluvv_]

No I feel like you just want to find a way to hate on Adrienne because Loni and Tamera said the same thing but you just wanna come after Adrienne and plus you can't judge someone just because they don't have the culture as you.

[@ericabirkeland6830]

I think Tamera is such a beautiful and genuine person. Such a great person, mom, and human being!

[@sullivanmatheson6794]

i think taking your husbands last name is such a sentimental, beautiful thing!!

[@CharreseMoniqueMusic]

I do as well. It is beautiful! 💖

[@lionelluva]

Agreed. I'm definitely taking my future husband's last name.

[@imancampbell3207]

So do I ! I'm old-fashioned in that area. But to each her own.

[@nfvy8111]

Sullivan Matheson it can be, sure, but if a woman doesn't want to it shouldn't be an issue either.

[@alejandracortes3655]

Loni is so regressive! Women can keep their last name if they want, if we're supposed to "become one," then men can change their last names to the women's last name. I'm all for the woman keeping her last name or hyphenating it.

[@dundermifflin1888]

who else is tired of that sister sister joke that Loni keeps making in almost every single episodeee!?!

[@Prettygirlcn5]

I think every single person can just choose for themselves. Like I'm not changing my name.💜 But everybody else, just do what you want about it💁🏽

[@ladieesc0]

Jeanie is a single married person lol

[@Sosquiid]

While I was watching this segment on TV today I couldn't help but think "I can't wait until they post this clip on KZbin cause the comments are gonna be lit." Lol and I'm not disappointed. 😂😂😂

[@gigglyfitzgirl]

Has she picked/announced the date for her wedding? I just want to know how much longer we're gonna have to hear about it...

[@frizzzx86]

lmao

[@BlahBronxJodes]

I think based on that picture of him and her they showed with the hoodies and their backs turned "11/11" .. so I'm guessing November 11th.

[@gigglyfitzgirl]

Jodie K Oh wow I feel like an idiot now...thank you 😂

[@Shadowlandsdropout]

Jodie K ELEVEN is actually a clothing line, if you go on Adrienne's instagram where she posted that picture, she tags the brand. So we don't know the date lol

[@gigglyfitzgirl]

Anita lol 😂 thanks

[@snatched.8135]

lmao having a different last name than your child isn't that big of a deal. My mom and I have different last names because her and my dad are divorced and obviously I kept his last name. It's never created a problem.

[@alwaystatiana595]

I love my last name, I'll just hyphenate.

[@BabyC51085]

Loni was completely CORRECT.

[@kelkay628]

The whole school thing is BS. My daughter's school knows who her mommy is and who her daddy is. We are together for over 10yrs and choose not to get married. I don't need to have the same last name as my children and partner, in my opinion.

[@CapeverdeanBarbie1990]

Agreed ! Same here , 8 yrs

[@berniemat5829]

Sounds like Adrienne knew she wanted her husband's name why in the world was this a segment ??? 🙄🙄🙄

[@fatimad8725]

My mum has a different last name from me. nobody has ever asked anything nor does anyone care.

[@Shawn_Shawn]

Man Yall tripping. Thank you Tamara and Loni teach these Ppl..

[@bleubelle4339]

Changing the last name should be a personal choice...for me I agree with Tam n Jeannie...my dad has 1 child n I love my name and how it connects me n my daddy so hyphen it will be😊

[@ArmednotTriggered]

The day I received the marriage license, I was in the Social Security office getting my name changed. It was a huge hassle, but I love looking at my driver's license and seeing Mrs. *Husband's last name.* In fact, I kept my middle name; since my maiden name is very abrupt and sounds weird as a middle name. I didn't feel like I was losing my identity or anything. My middle name is still a family name and fits with my new last name much nicer.

[@cuponoodles96]

Don't change your name for no man tbh...if you HAVE to then hyphenate it

[@beverlyanne8458]

Way to go, Adrienne!! I never changed my last name with my first husband, but I did with my second husband and i LOVE it!

[@sweetcaramel4750]

Get the prenup and keep your last name girl

[@passengerprincesspodcast]

I guess I assumed that because Adrienne is Hispanic that she would keep both. I really like that tradition of honoring both families.

[@Yakhanna]

Adrienne BALLOON.. Tamar did this last season :)

[@KeenLagerfeld]

"...and as long as she had her faith, she knew that one day she would be Mrs. Loni Love-Herbert." LOL

[@samd5259]

change your name, pride doesn't have room in a marriage

[@maylightbewithyou]

He can change his last name to hers then.

[@TaelyLee]

Adrienne's highlight is poppin'! It looks so good! :) But, I personally plan on taking my husband's last name because in my culture it is rare for a married woman to take her husband's last name. It means a lot to me to take my boyfriend's last name.

[@Petercynn]

They had this discussion before! Lol.

[@imancampbell3207]

Ok good! It's not just me! I'm straight up sitting here like didn't they talk about this before???

[@LoveGeraldaJ]

jeannie threw some SHADE in there... I'm not changing it until you ACTUALLY get married

[@Krzrrazrrokr]

Tamar Braxton-Herbert

[@NallahBrown]

ughh, Tamera's explanation of her last names was beautiful ...I ADORE HER LOL.

[@JOYCEBELIKE]

I feel bad for Jeannie sometimes. No one lets her talk! We are all entitled to our own opinions....

[@rbdchick05]

Lol Jeannie ain't changing it until things are official, because she knows better...