The Last of Us 2: ENDING EXPLAINED! (DID THE ENDING SUCK?)

[@brent2050]

I still don’t like the ending. But I do respect the bold approach they did with it and with time I’ve come to accept and understand it more. Even if it’s the ending we didn’t want it’s probably the ending we needed.

[@dimitarpetkov_]

Yeah exactly what i think. The story and ending especially arent happy or anything like another story. This is different and shows how ptsd will change you and shows the need for closure ellie wanted from joel or tommy

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@dimitarpetkov_ Still pretty terrible mainly because she lives in the apocalypse she's going to kill more people either way

[@sindelscat9336]

@@trevorphilips9065 so is Abby.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@sindelscat9336 Exactly Ellie is not Batman

[@sindelscat9336]

@@trevorphilips9065 yeah I know, and I can see why she's killed those people, she's hurt

[@justin705389]

I think Ellie wearing the bracelet in the ending is key naughty dog wouldn’t have done something like that just for no reason I think she’s already made up with Dina and has just gone back to make peace with Joel’s death and she goes on to start a new life with Dina and JJ

[@Aeneiden]

Yeah but why not show it? Why lead the player to believe she ends up alone just as she feared? Why end it on such a bleak note? Everyone from part 1 is left messed up or dead in part 2. It's not about spoon feeding but a little hope could be good.

[@風雪-d7i]

There are even more indications other than the bracelet like the passage of time being off and the obvious lack of Ellie's everyday items like clothing.

[@Charolette21]

I agree with most of it except them getting back together. Ellie has been demoted from mother to Aunt to JJ.

[@davidchen2866]

Druckmann said he purposely did it to leave it ambiguous. He also said originally, Ellie grabbed a toy of JJ’s before she left but they scrapped that because that would make it too clear.

[@Killdahcake]

Actually Dina leaves her so she's just left alone I hate the ending it makes no sense first she kills thousands of people then she came all the way to just free her??? Like what the hell plus she killed Joel and lots of others!

[@breenewi6405]

She lost everything for nothing. She said she was scared of ending up alone. and now she is. :( very sad.

[@ACORNyMOFO]

Did you hear anything he said in the video?

[@kiwi468]

@@ACORNyMOFO his opinions bro, chill

[@breenewi6405]

Darion Tate I did in fact. But it still doesn’t change anything lmao

[@ACORNyMOFO]

@@breenewi6405 She's not alone in the end. Even if Dina doesn't want anything to do with her she still has Tommy. Once she heads back to camp in Jackson, Tommy will feel bad for how beat-up she got going to avenge Joel alone even if she admits she didn't kill Abby. She let go of Joel by leaving the guitar behind and her mother by losing that knife in the fight with Abby. Plusl there's likely going to be a part 3 so her story isn't over.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@ACORNyMOFO it's probably going to focus on Abby though and it is his opinion.

[@DinosaurNick]

I want a part 3 where Ellie finally gets answers about her immunity

[@Heath-vz7lc]

Thissssssss

BINGO, a before and after story of when she was first immune to keep Joel in the game then a deep dark conspiracy tethered to Ellies immunity that has ties to the very beginning. Bringing back characters from the first that could be tied into the whole thing like Bill or Marlene, that could be absolutely phenomenal and Neil can definitely write something that good.

[@ntk7320]

Yes!

[@10nissan67]

Check out Game theory for the answer

[@Heath-vz7lc]

10 Nathan still says she is immune

[@haych8726]

In my opinion the way they played it out, there was just no other option, leaving abby alive would make no sense as she let Ellie go 2 times. I don't really like the ending but i guess they should have changed the overall plot to have a different ending

[@JiF28]

The way I see it, the first time she let Ellie go, other people were watching and Ellie wasnt even the target at that point. The second time Lev was watching and I really only think she let Ellie and Dina live because Lev was watching.

[@diongrey5033]

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[@haych8726]

@@JiF28 But in Ellies point of view they let her go and she thought nothing more of it

@@JiF28 Not just because he was watching, because her time with him had softened her and helped her see the ignorance in her hostile view of others. Let talking out of killing Dina was a major turning point for her as a character.

[@akihikosanada2020]

There was an option, it was all about ending the cycle of violence that plagued the entire cast all game, Ellie wouldn't have gained anything from killing Abby just like Abby didn't gain anything from killing Joel, and throughout the game the more people she brutally kills the more she feels bad, it was a masterful ending when you really look into it

[@spongboy7330]

I absolutely agreed with you. This is the game that really makes you feel the situations, it really taught us an important life lesson.

[@DomTheBomb]

Amen to that

[@ryanatorraptor5223]

It taught us that NaughtyDog doesn’t always make the best decisions

[@urbiznesnunuv6938]

When I found Abby at the pillars in her whithered state, I didn’t even recognize her. The ponytail braid led me off... I was not prepared for that... heartbreaking is an understatement to me...

[@SGhosht]

There was no doubt in me that there will be a part 3 ... Ellie’s story about being infected needs closure , I mean isn’t that the whole reason for the intial part of this story anyway ?! Most stories come in 3s. I look at part 2 as somewhat like the empire strikes back of this story. I personally liked 2 more than 1. I thought it opened up this world a lot more and showed a lot of abstract elements to life in this world. I would like if you touched on the significance of the moth symbol in relation to the fireflies ... moths are attracted to light.

[@fredkandratovich398]

A very interesting detail I heard pointed out in a podcast about TLoU P2 is that throughout the game we often see Ellie's hand shake due to the stress and trauma she's going through. But in the end, when we see Ellie arrive at the Farm for the final scene, her hands are still. Neil admitted that it wasn't planned, however, finds it fortunate that the scene landed that way. So make what you want of it. I personally think the ending is actually not that depressing and, I would say, even hopeful.

[@DomTheBomb]

Awesome read here

[@princerabbit3803]

Honestly I don't think this ending is bad

[@DomTheBomb]

It’s not as bad as people think it is

Opinions and assholes....I thought the ending was perfect

[@sonar6175]

No, it’s truly not, it made Ellie move on and give on a story of another character in this world, and I honestly don’t think Abby is a bad character, the only kink I have with her is she killed Joel, but other then that I understand why she did it even thought I’m mad that she did it in the first place, but she is a really developed character with how she was, what Mel says “a peace of shit” after her dad died and till she started taking care of lev, she didn’t have much of a purpose to keep on living till she did, and Ellie was losing purpose to live herself cause Joel was gone, and she couldn’t continue to until she finished off Abby, but that flashback while she was drown Abby in a way, her saving grass, also g with dina and jj, so yeah, I don’t think that the ending and Abby in general are bad, and I know, different opinions, but it’s also making a bit of a point

[@BRS.Fan.BlackRockShooterFan]

This comment section is different I'm not saying anything Because you have choice

[@akihikosanada2020]

@Meher Chaithanya nah it isn't but sorry you feel that way

[@thijskerbusch7984]

I understand it, I just dont like it

[@trevorphilips9065]

Same here it's a bland idea

[@dangdang4334]

Trevor Philips nope, a bland idea would be letting her kill Abby like every other cliche revenge story out there

[@SlayerTWD]

@@dangdang4334 true

[@chrismoore4724]

@@dangdang4334 It would have made more sense tho in the context the story. Ellie sparing Abby comes out of nowhere and it feels forced imo. There is no development for Ellie that would suggest that she would spare Abby at the end

[@akihikosanada2020]

@@chrismoore4724 yeah there is, she feels remorse and disgust with herself after all the death and murder and when she is finally about to get what she wants she no longer has memories of Joel being tortured they are now memories of Joel during a happier period of time which lead her to forgive not just Joel but herself for never forgiving Joel, it's such a good and complex ending

[@miarodriguez83]

I love thinking that she did meet up with Dina and they’re still together at the end not when they leave her. It gives me more closure even if it’s not true

[@nam9085]

i loved the ending and if anyone thinks it sucks cause it makes the game's pointless then you need to realize that the first game did the same thing, we spent the entire game trying go to the hospital to find a cure and then we left. That doesnt mean the first game's ending sucks either. to the people that thought abby should've been killed at the end so that she doesnt get away with it you should also see that abby lost more than ellie, theres alot of hints and evidence that ellie and dina are together at the end of the game and that ellie just came back for closure (dina's bracelet) all abby has left is lev. If ellie killed abby at the end then she would've done the exact same thing abby did to her, ruining lev's life all for revenge. Also killing abby would not have made ellie feel any better and would worsen her already broken mental state. Joel would not want this for ellie.

[@specialopp333]

Seriously

[@deveshsood6087]

Dude, I totally agree.

[@notjimpickens7928]

Nah, endings still bad

[@nam9085]

@@notjimpickens7928 no not really babes

[@Eyal_]

The ending was the only thing that would've redeemed the game for me and they screwed it up in my opinion the ending wasn't good. After watching the whole video I have a completely different perspective about the ending!

[@sindelscat9336]

That is a very good point, well done.

[@alaacharaf1790]

yeah its good now

[@40054gurl]

The reason I don’t like the ending is it seems like we played a long ass game for nothing. Also, if the shoe was on the other foot and Joel lived and Ellie died, he would’ve offed Abby in a heartbeat and not thought twice. So her seeing Joel at the end and changing her path doesn’t make sense to me because, Joel would’ve killed her. And to wait 7 years for that shit? I expected better

[@Aeneiden]

Yeah I didnt understand that flashback. She spared abby because she forgave Joel for saving her life?

[@40054gurl]

Aeneiden exactly!!

[@shayla7683]

I agree that Joel would’ve killed Abby but I feel like it wouldn’t do anything because Joel has lived yk and with Ellie she’s only like 18-19 and has a girl who loves her, a child, and a safe place to call home. Yk and I don’t think Joel would want Ellie to give that up. He even says in the last flashback Dina is lucky to have Ellie. And I’m not saying Joel doesn’t have anything but Ellie has a lot yk. I hope that made sense😂

[@badbada3003]

If joel was ellie and ellie was joel it wouldn't make any difference ellie would probably appear in Joel's mind and end up sparring the person who killed ellie

[@Nassit-Gnuoy]

hannahallyana Dude, Joel killed a hospital full of people to prevent Ellie from dying for a cure. There’s no way in Hell he wouldn’t kill the person who killed her.

[@Buurrkkee]

I don't want a new Ellie, I want the backtalking smartmouth from the the first game, then again though, she is in her 20's in Part II

[@Aeneiden]

Yeah she's too much of an asshole in part 2. The flashbacks were the only good parts

[@8ballmoe]

I don’t really consider this Ellie as CANON IDC

[@j4r3d29]

Bounty Hunter Kakuzu Unfortunately for you, this game was 100% created by the original creators and producers, so it is completely cannon no matter what lies you tell your brain.

[@8ballmoe]

Mista J are you one of those people who can’t let someone be happy? I don’t care who Neil decides.. to me this game is not canon... No logic or “truth” you spew I won’t budge on this

[@j4r3d29]

Bounty Hunter Kakuzu I’m all for happiness but your denial of this game is ludicrous. This is the sequel. Joel died. Ellie sucks. Get over it. Abby FTW

[@vortektor]

Ending made me feel empty

[@martinlutherkingjr.2993]

thats the point

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@martinlutherkingjr.2993 Pretty stupid point made me feel meh since other games and movies have done it before GTA 4 did it perfectly

[@DomTheBomb]

It’s supposed to be depressing

[@jakluboo8425]

Meher Chaithanya dude shut up already

[@shayla7683]

Meher Chaithanya but that’s reality sometimes bro things don’t always go the way we want them

[@kpu7653]

I actually like the ending and think it's well deserved. I understand Ellie had PTSD but I think she should have moved on and I blame Tommy her not moving on. But the way she left Dina, Ellie deserved to be left alone especially since there was no need to go after Abbie.

[@hamouds6448]

I think it’s good that they spared Abby but The bad thing is Ellie was left alone Oh never mind the ending is good because she will come back to Dina Maybe

[@pvgamer_6726]

mobile.twitter.com/maracrrt/status/1279963484206161920

[@sindelscat9336]

@@pvgamer_6726 but they didn't canonize that ending.

[@uchiwamadara4614]

@@pvgamer_6726 She left the opposite way of Jackson in the end so i think Dina gave Ellie the bracelet to wish her luck for her new life/redemption just like in Seattle day 2.

[@kakashi6957]

P A I N my homie pain back in the flesh

[@kakashi6957]

they’re is only a few that wanted her spared

[@yabigboiiii9703]

Would’ve been better if Lev begged Ellie to stop, Ellie will than realize, if she killed Abby even after Lev begged, she would’ve been no better than her while she killed Joel, so she lets her go

[@kiwi468]

i thought the game was solid 8-9 out of 10, definitely not a 10, it DID have issues, and im not being biased but it doesn't deserve anywhere near as much hate as it has gotten

[@trevorphilips9065]

I disagree it does since the story isn't anything new I mean fails like Neil copied Cesar's arc from War for the planet of the apes

[@kiwi468]

@@trevorphilips9065 damn, i was giving my opinion

[@kiwi468]

@Meher Chaithanya yes, i think it can get hate, but no where fucking near how much it got

[@tyleroutland1248]

@Meher Chaithanya no it doesn't

[@sindelscat9336]

@@kiwi468 he was aware, he was just giving his opinion can't you handle it?

[@mosalah8553]

There will be part III 100%.

[@ManchesterUtdz]

10 years later..

[@deez6102]

60 years later..

[@sindelscat9336]

100 years later...

[@RealTalkTVOG]

I remember when you were a small channel, I used to watch your B03 streams. Look how far you’ve come

[@DomTheBomb]

Thanks man 🔥

[@TS99975]

Personally was significantly let down by the ending

[@dionlewis3974]

First love your videos

[@Vacoh]

Ellie’s logic: Can’t forgive Joel Also Ellie: Can forgive Joel’s killer

[@badbada3003]

She forgave joel lol

[@julianfinley9458]

I’ll do you one better cant forgive the guy who called her name forgives abby 💀

[@sindelscat9336]

@@julianfinley9458 Beatrix kiddo: can't forgive Bill. John wick: can't forgive the person who killed his dog. Ellie: forgives the person who killed her father. Logic.

[@Vacoh]

Julian Finley 💀💀

[@sindelscat9336]

The answer is yes. I'm sorry I deleted my original comment but my internet is having problems right now. Edit: I also like to point out that I kind of wished Ellie had killed Abby or at least killed love since it would have taught Abby a lesson but I can see why the game sales are plummeting.

[@gardygamer4211]

RIP Joel Miller that is now with Sarah Miller and that will never forget Ellie the girl that’s now alone

[@idkidc1885]

She has dina and jj

[@dariusfinanceinternational5695]

theres a video by a guy called tlou strategist that goes into a lot more detail on some of the similar points and id certainly give it a watch, if you haven't already.

[@DomTheBomb]

I’ll have to take a look

[@abrahamd514]

Said it once and I’ll say it again. I wasn’t going to buy the game bc of the reviews... but I decided to be the judge for it myself and I’m glad I gave it a shot!

[@jeffreygamer32]

That's good u tried it for yourself because trust me if there is 1 thing I learned is that you can not go by reviews, u have to c it for yourself, I can't even tell u how many times I ended up loving a game that got shit reviews, the same thing goes for movies too

[@DB-jp3ii]

@@jeffreygamer32 yup

[@sindelscat9336]

The cutscenes spoiled it for me so no I will not be playing the game and I don't regret my choice.

[@abrahamd514]

sindel kahn ok? Didn’t ask you bud lol

[@sindelscat9336]

@@abrahamd514 you didn't ask the others, but they get to say there opinions so it really doesn't matter if you asked me or not.

[@aydendagoat]

I completely agree with what you said I feel like this is a game that has a very deep and complicated story that takes a lot of playthroughs to fully understand and a lot of people dislike it because it is depressing and not what they wanted out of the game but just because it’s not what u wanted doesn’t mean it’s bad

[@stefen24]

Excellent explanation Dom! You made some great and interesting points. Can't wait for part 3! 👍👍

[@DomTheBomb]

Same here!!

[@chrismoore4724]

I personally think the ending sucked for this game. For me, the end contradicts everything that happened throughout the entire game and Ellie sparing Abby was not believable to me because there was no development for Ellie that would suggest that she would spare Abby in the end. It felt random and out of nowhere. Doesnt help that it makes the Santa Barbara chapter pointless imo. And because of it, there was no payoff to Joels death. For me, ending is a 3/10

[@trevorphilips9065]

You're right the game wants to come off as deep but it ultimately fails to do so GTA 4 was a Revenge story and it was handled allot better

[@chrismoore4724]

@@trevorphilips9065100% agree with you. RDR and RDR2 also handled the theme of revenge a lot better. Ghost of Tsushima also handles it pretty well imo. This game relies a ton on shock value and subverting expectations to the point where everything comes off as forced.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@chrismoore4724 Yeah in my opinion Neil ain't no genius writing GTA 4 made me feel empty the good kind and in the end The Last of Us Part 2 made me feel nothing just an okay is that it feeling

[@Aeneiden]

@@trevorphilips9065 yeah it's because neil's ego has grown too much since part 1. No wonder he has Kojima as a an inspiration. At least kojima wasn't stupid enough to have raiden kill snake.

[@chrismoore4724]

@@Aeneiden Yeah killing Joel off in the first two hours of the game was a pretty bad idea honestly.

[@Nomuu]

I truly believe ellie did have a happy ending, we just miss the clues.... another youtuber commentend on the letter you find at the farm when you are with dina and the baby. It's from the baby father's mom saying... they will always have a place in Jackson if they choose to come back home. Also if you have notice... when Ellie leaves to fight Abby at the end... she's not wearing the bracelet Dina gave her... but when she returns... the camera zoom in on her hand.... we were focused on the fingers missing but looked completely passed the facts that now she is wearing the bracelet.. possibly meaning she has already been into Jackson....... and living with Dina... she just went back to the farm for the guitar..... but decided to leave it.....That represents her finally being able to accept Joel's death and end the cycle of revenge And here some more things back to his claim.. when she comes back to the farm she's not hurt and not wearing any of her weapon she doesn't seem very surprise when everyone is gone and she doesn't call out Dina name or anything I think people so caught up in "Revenge " that they missed all that details and also if you notice when the game finished you see the dome building? thats where the firefly will meet abby and lev

[@rashedxf]

The way they ended the game was confusing for me I don’t know if I like this game or not

[@kathrine7498]

I have mixed feelings. I like it and I hate it this game just confusing you a lot and you don't know what to think.

[@rashedxf]

Sub 2 me 4 no reason yh

[@haych8726]

I guess it is for a certain audience but for Tlou 1 fans it's a punch to the gut

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@rashedxf I think this shows how bad the writing is in the game you don't know if its good because you're confused

[@pokemonrocks43]

It’s the single most emotional corrosive game I’ve ever played. The ending is horribly sad, but to get that much of a reaction from me and make me think a month after I played it, that’s a win in my book.

[@jennahroland]

I think the ending wasn’t that bad it was good but good news at the end scene show us abby boat at the beach see the tower that was a clue of part 3 I respect the game. Naughtydogs they did the best for making the ending. it was sad she is alone again after dina left her but I hope we see ella again because we want to see her adventure one last time I have a feeling you will have to play Abby on part3 I give the game and the ending a 9/10💜❤️💕

[@kakashi6957]

Meher Chaithanya bro why you gotta go ahead an stomp on the comment bro chill it’s only a game

[@kakashi6957]

Jennah Roland you can’t say for nearly everyone tho

[@freddycruz5969]

I completely loved the game and the ending. I love how the whole game is about revenge, but with the final flashback I understood that it was actually about forgiveness and redemption.

[@jonathancalalang2623]

You might be right dom, she went back to Jackson after fighting Abby to happily live together with Dina that’s why Ellie has this bracelet and went back to this house to say goodbye and leaving behind with Joel. But there should be part 3. Because for me, #1 Ellie wants her immunity to mean something, she might give her immunity to finally make a vaccine she ever wanted. #2 we saw how Tommy went back where Dina and Ellie live and trying to convince Ellie to finish what they started as they revenge. So Tommy really wants to kill Abby and this might trigger to Ellie once again and changes her mind to finally kill Abby at the end of the part 3. These are my hints for part 3 if there is really part 3, because for me. I’m not gonna be so happy if naughty dog never finished the well good ending, specially in people’s sight.

[@DaddyShore]

Noto Ganggg. We love you keep it up 💙

[@DomTheBomb]

💙

[@danh8804]

Sparing Abby and the reasoning behind it reminds me of a scene in the Denzel Washington film "Unstoppable" with the runaway train. As he's about to risk his own life to stop that train, even though he's been fired and is working his last few weeks, the CEO asks him by radio why he'd "do this for us?" He says. "Not for you. I'm not doing it for you." That's how I feel with the idea of being okay with Ellie sparing Abby. She's not doing it to save Abby; it's not for her, and she's not worth stopping for on her own. She's doing it to save Ellie. She was right and wrong about Joel when she said he'd be halfway to Seattle if it were her or Tommy - right, because he would; wrong, by thinking it was what he'd want for her. Joel was an old man with a lot of red in the ledger and would have very little left if Ellie especially were killed. Joel would have been the one to tell Ellie that he isn't worth what it would cost Ellie to go for revenge. And she had already spent most of her heart on getting to Abby, traded almost everything she was... but there was a bit left to save.

[@anonymousmurray7482]

I was really heated over the ending but I’ve cooled off,I can see what they were trying to do but I can say it took a lot to figure out what was going on.

[@ultimategrimreaper6499]

It's disappointing Ellie didn't kill Abby. But at least her and Abby have one thing in common. They both lost people close to them, people they love and care about, and wanted to kill for revenge.

[@jasonjackson33]

Why did you want Abby to be killed? After all she and Lev went through I just wanted her to escape.

[@JesusReyes-kr3wt]

Dud I loved Abby I didn’t want her to die

[@sindelscat9336]

@@jasonjackson33 because she put Ellie through something, it's her fault she did this to Ellie she deserves everything coming to her

[@jasonjackson33]

@@sindelscat9336 So its ok for Ellie to have revenge on people but it's not Ok for Abby to get revenge on Joel for killing her father and the fireflies? The whole point of the game was how stupid revenge is and how it all goes wrong in the long run. Did you want Ellie to Kill Lev too?

[@Barcadelft]

I would have absolutely hated the ending if Ellie were to kill Abby at that moment. For me personally the ending is quite perfect and one of the best endings of any game ive experienced.

[@Buurrkkee]

Ayyyyy Ellie profile pics

[@btwhunter2432]

I disliked it BC the ending actually sucked BC she didn’t kill Abby I wanted Ellie to kill Abby BC Abby killed Joel So I disliked

[@w0rzhie]

The ending was amazing.I loved this game and story,I didn't understand why it ended like that for the first time,but after playing 3 times I started to like Abby and her story more.

[@zagmololxd3868]

i didnt like the ending too but three days after i finish it i was thinking about it and then i started to apreciate the ending i think they should make a second ending when ellie will kill abby

[@sindelscat9336]

Yeah I think so too.

[@jayB8_]

I’m starting to think it’s not as bad as people think it is but I still do believe it clearly sets up a part III

[@specialopp333]

Fuck Minerva

[@sephorasamot2896]

Sad and Heartbreaking Ending 😮Poor Ellie 😢but i understood this ending Great video Dom 👍

[@DomTheBomb]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sephorasamot2896]

@@DomTheBomb 😀

[@pvgamer_6726]

@@DomTheBomb mobile.twitter.com/maracrrt/status/1279963484206161920 what do you think about it

[@pmac206]

I loved the ending : I played through the game twice and overall I loved the story . I feel like I was right there where the writers wanted me to be for most of the story beats .

[@Onewolf101]

I understand the ending. I get why some hate it. But I accept it. Definitely was setup for a 3. New enemy group, abby and Lev probably the new leads. Makes sense

[@kartalreklam8174]

I think ellie knows where dina is because she wasn't surprised when she came back to home. If you ask me what happened ı can tell this : Ellie visited dina and she took the wristlet that dina gave ellie before . She wanted to see joel s guitar (or home as well ) and she wanted to end her pain ( as you guess she didn't end her all pain , just a little of it ) and as you see at the ending scene ellie dropped joel s guitar and she walked away , ı think she 's going find fireflies and she ' ll ask fireflies to find a cure

[@blackeviledwolf3513]

I really liked the ending and it also interests me what happens after Ellie leaves the house which means I Do want and will want the last of us part lll!! 👍😎

[@nathansijujohn6417]

I think the ending sucked but that leaves to part three which i am so exited and have to wait for five years 😂😂😧😧 and neil cuckman (i purposely wrote that) is so rude to his fans and fun fact the voice actor for manny was neil cuckman and when joel died he said "die in hell pendejo"

[@DomTheBomb]

Which to me is a setup for part III

[@akihikosanada2020]

No they really shouldn't have and I'm glad they didn't, would've kept the cycle going and nothing would've been gained from killing her

[@nathansijujohn6417]

@@akihikosanada2020 yeah now i am starting to thing ur correct bro

[@sindelscat9336]

@@akihikosanada2020 I disagree with you, I think she would have gained something out of killing Abby, she's still would have forgave Joel and she would have gotten the closer she needed, she may have still ended up with nothing, but that's Dina's emotionally manipulative characteristic not Ellie being selfish and trying to make you feel bad for Abby is not going to make her character any better, plus after killing Abby Ellie could have found different people, because Dina wasn't right for her in fact Dina didn't deserve Ellie. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWGsi5qJorhsbqc

[@unionsquid5836]

Dom what do you use to make videos

[@DomTheBomb]

Adobe premiere

[@unionsquid5836]

DomTheBomb thanks what about what you use record gameplay for videos

[@DomTheBomb]

Union Squid elgato

[@unionsquid5836]

DomTheBomb ok thanks

[@xptaco2298]

Imo the ending was odd to say. The revenge is not the way idea for the story was out of place especially when the world is in a zombie apocalypse where people get killed for no reason. Abby should've died right there. I think Dina leaving still made sense but leaving Ellie with nothing and Abby getting away is not the way to go

[@cristianfaiella1397]

I understand that you don't like the end because Ellie let Abby go but killing her when she was broken wasn't the way to go neither. I didn't like Abby as much as Ellie but I didn't want Ellie to take revenge in that way. And the whole story wasn't about revenge. It was about forgiveness. Killing Abby would have completed the cycle of revenge but that would have cost Ellie humanity, so she let her go and moved on with her life.

[@dangdang4334]

Dina didn't actually leave Ellie, Ellie has her bracelet again at the end of the game, which means she's back living with Dina and JJ in Jackson, and she just came back to the farmhouse alone to get Joel's guitar

[@pokemonrocks43]

Dang Dang idk man she has that’s bracelet throughout the game. I think she left bro.

[@pokemonrocks43]

Idk bro the bracelet is there but it just seems so unlikely, I hope I’m wrong.

[@chrismoore4724]

@@cristianfaiella1397 It is a revenge story. If it's supposed to be about forgiveness, then it is told very poorly. Compare how TLOU2 handles revenge to RDR and RDR2 and Ghost of Tsushima. Those games handle that theme way better imo

[@thehaffytaffy]

This game was so emotional that I’m still needing a hug 😢

[@DomTheBomb]

I think we all do!

[@noaheverett103]

I just don't want the franchise to have anything to do with Abby again due to the fact she killed my favorite character.

[@danielmulhern6085]

She killed my favorite character too but I really want to see her in the next game because she’s a really interesting character

[@zzzcyber]

Is the review still coming ?

[@DomTheBomb]

Honestly idk atm I would love to but my motivation to do it needs to be there

[@nobric880]

I think it would have been a really cool ending to let you choose whether or not to kill Abby. It would have made for a really great discussion between players about why they did or did not take their revenge.

[@ryangovender7032]

I think it did that anyway, I feel like giving a choice takes away from Ellies story tho, the story is about her and her decisions. The story loses weight if you could just change it lmao, like reading a book and wanting it to be multiple choice

[@rosieizred]

Man ellie is the most character in this part who deserved better i know u guys u would pick joel and i agree they did him dirty too just not as much as ellie,she basically lost joel,dina,JJ,jesse,tommy and top of that she lost two fingers which it prevents her from playing guitar and she ended up depressed and alone shes the one who REALLY suffered ):

[@MS-df2fk]

Abby lost her father, Alice, Owen, Manny, Nora, Yara and her entire Firefly family. She was also kept prisoner and tortured for months before being left to die strung up on a pole at the beach. Meanwhile Ellie had it made living on a gorgeous ranch with her wife and son... but she threw it all away to go after a woman who had spared her life twice.

[@rosieizred]

Matt Stryker at least she have lev

[@specialopp333]

Matt Stryker fr

[@dube9777]

That thing with the bracelet was 300IQ congrats on figuring it out

[@DomTheBomb]

I missed it my first time playing and was like oh my

[@joshulas4361]

Does this mean that Ellie is letting go of Joel and trying to start completely fresh? That makes me sad if Ellie is gonna try and forget Joel. Her past was to important for her to let go of

[@DomTheBomb]

It might seem like that or to just cleanse herself of revenge

[@joshulas4361]

DomTheBomb ok. Thank you. You are very active in your comments. I am impressed

[@vincentcenni8649]

I think you are correct that Part 2 is a set up for Part 3 which will conclude Ellie's arc and probably give further closure to the fate of Abby and the Fireflies. I think there will be another time jump and Ellie in her mid-twenties will have heard of the reformed Fireflies and their continued effort to find a cure. In the end, Ellie will finally volunteer for the surgery closing that arc. Abby will have become a doctor like her father and be on the team that performs the surgery. Cut to black and each player can decide for themselves whether it succeeds.

[@DomTheBomb]

👍👍👍

[@pixelhunter0930]

Dang Dinas bracelet is 500 IQ Dom!!

[@logi267]

I’m going to be honest. Imo the ending is better than just killing Abby. If Ellie killed Abby I would have hated to see the following game have Lev go on a revenge mission. I also think the ending gives hope for Ellie, Abby, and Lev. I think the ending is similar to the first game as in the ending left people questioning if the character made the right choice. Also I think if Abby did die a lot of people would be upset like Kinda Funny Games, Girlfriend Reviews, Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, or Tajae. Also after looking at the comments I think People wanted Abby to die but it’s not about what the player wants it’s about what’s best for Ellie and the story moving forward. Just my thoughts.

[@crisis4905]

This game doesent deserve to be called a Masterpiece or get a 10/10. Out of the simple fact how Naughty dog lied in the adverts to get the fans to buy the game. And dont give me that bs about "protecting the story". It was a delibrate lie. Studios like naughty dog that treat theire staff like slaves, sack and bully everyone who dares to speak theire mind about it, threaten lively hoods of youtubers just because they mentioned that the leaks exists, should be exposed to the public. No footage was shown to justify the DMCA strikes. If you act like that, then your clearly hiding something. I for one, will not finance people and companys who behave like that. Its pure and utter disgusting. And everyone should keep that in mind in the future.

[@mrantmoney1]

By the time I got to the end, I didn’t want to kill Abby. Seeing her literally a shell of herself and carrying Lev, I was done. And to see Ellie also at rock bottom bleeding out and sticking a knife at the throat of an unconscious kid, that’s not the Ellie I’ve seen in the past and I doubt that’s what Joel would want. When we see Abbys POV when she kills Joel, you can see on her face that torturing Joel isn’t giving her the cathartic feeling that she had expected/wanted. She even hesitates before the final blow. Unfortunately for Joel, and us fans, she goes one way thinking it will help but we find out later that killing Joel didn’t bring Abby peace of mind. By the end, Ellie is in that same situation and she chooses to go the other way. I really think not killing Abby was the way to go. Killing her would have done nothing to bring her peace. Ellie is literally letting go of her obsession/hate and regains a little piece of her humanity and who she was before. And I know people will bring up that Ellie kills tons of people and if it was reversed, Joel wouldn’t hesitate to kill Abby but that’s another point. Ellie isn’t Joel! In fact, when she tries, she’s not good at it and it mentally breaks her even more. There’s a slight difference between killing in self defense and torturing someone for information (like Nora) and evening threatening to kill someone else if you don’t give them what you want (like Lev).

[@okelham]

Tbh now I look back on tlou2 it's not too bad but I'm still a little mad Ellie let Abby just leave ?

[@ultimategrimreaper6499]

Agreed 💯. Ellie should have killed Abby, it's disappointing that she didn't.🤦🤦. Hopefully in part 3, they will cross paths again and she'll kill her 😁

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@ultimategrimreaper6499 Eh no it's most likely Abby will be playable

[@ultimategrimreaper6499]

@@trevorphilips9065 Maybe, you never know 🤷. We'll just have to see........

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@ultimategrimreaper6499 It's obvious they did if they didn't the game would have given you the option to kill Abby Neil wants to shove Abby down your throat bud

[@okelham]

@@ultimategrimreaper6499 we will see ... In time

[@TheMarine316]

The ending was perfect for the story Naughty dog was trying to tell, had they went with the original ending that would have sucked because that would have shown that Ellie didn’t learn anything, I knew from about Ellie’s second day that she wasn’t going to kill Abby because you could start to see what Naughty dog was going for, it’s all about Ellie’s redemption... just like the first game was all about Joel’s redemption for the things he did in the 20 years after Sarah died, I think the real controversy is how many gamers out there are blood thirsty, if you still want Abby dead after killing Joel even though she was just doing with Ellie did, getting revenge for her fathers death & seeing that it didn’t help Abby at all... then I think you really need to question your own personal values & ask yourself “what’s wrong with me”

[@pederdaughter7170]

Nah bruh, Abbys father should've never pulled a syringe to joel. That was dumb as hell. And there's no such thing for a vaccine for a fungal infection. Secondly, you don't have to kill someone to get a cure. Thats dumb as hell too. You need to gather their antibodies which I believe is in ellies plasma. So with all that said, Abbys father is a stupid doctor

[@mystrangeaddiction5646]

The first time playing this my heart broke. But when i played it again and realized what this game truly meant. I fell in love with it and what it teachea us as a player. As well as that moth or butterfly on the gee-tar and her tattoo... Maybe it resembles Ellies transformation? I love this game

[@christopherwang4392]

My idea / prediction for _The Last of Us Part III_ : The main themes of Part III would be *hope* and *redemption* with Lev being the central protagonist. Assuming that they do find what is left of the Fireflies on Santa Catalina Island, Abby and Lev are given the mission to find Ellie and bring her back to the Fireflies so they could finally create a cure. Abby is initially reluctant to do so due to PTSD over her torture at the hands of the Rattlers and her last fight with Ellie, but Lev is able to convince her that they must so they do could something worthwhile in their lives. However, along the way they are ambushed by both Infected and Hunters during which Abby gets bitten or mortally wounded. In one last act of redemption, Abby heroically sacrifices herself and goes down fighting so that Lev could escape. With Abby gone, Lev is left to continue their mission alone. Meanwhile, Ellie is wandering the country searching for Dina and JJ. Along the way, she encounters and rescues Lev who informs her of Abby's sacrifice and the Fireflies' renewed attempt to create a cure. Faced with the choice of either reuniting with Dina and JJ or sacrificing herself for humanity, Ellie ultimately decides to finish what she had started in the first game. After much trials and tribulations along the way during which Ellie and Lev form a bond with each other, they finally reach the Fireflies. It would be left ambiguous if the Fireflies could actually create a cure from Ellie's immunity, but it would finally bring a small ray of hope for humanity . Before they finally part ways for good, Ellie gives Lev a memento to pass along to Dina and JJ. The game would end with Lev wandering off to an uncertain yet hopeful future with memories of Abby, Ellie, and their sacrifices.

[@JKroozin71]

musical composer Gustavo should be involved again in part 3 ight? plus whats gonna happen with issac the leader of the pack? plus seraphite communitys? and also Dina mentioned a group when she was in formerly in Mexico called The Ravens?? oh so much stuff left in this universe.

[@JKroozin71]

*New Mexico

[@DomTheBomb]

Issac died

[@JKroozin71]

gotcha yea lol

[@ShaquanTalbert]

Ellie broke the cycle. If Ellie killed Abby Lev would've found Ellie and killed her. I'm mad she lost her fingers though. That part wasn't necessary. Smh

[@poett8875]

Lev would’ve just died in the boat considering the condition he was in but I get your point

[@sindelscat9336]

That's like saying Nikki from kill Bill will get revenge on the bride and the next movie

[@ejskywalker6544]

I did like the ending but I also didn’t a little bit. After seeing Abby’s perspective and seeing she’s actually a pretty good person, I’m glad Ellie spared her. But I hope that she sees Abby again in part three maybe, and instead of hating each other still, maybe it could turn into them actually becoming friends.

[@henrytownshed5304]

In my opinion this reminded me of the ending in Silent Hill 2 called leave where the game makes you think James is Escaping The Town but in reality you don't see him commit suicide, because the graveyard he walks through is before, he gets to his car. Ellie was walking into the woods with PTSD I would be worried. Neil drunk man has already made his intentions known that he's replacing Ellie with Abby. Abby will be the new "Joel" and Lev will be the star in the third game.

[@Aeneiden]

Probably but, who' s gonna be hyped for that game? Lev I think is ok. Abby is a psychopath

[@jamiefletcher3186]

I've seen worse endings, so its not flat out terrible and in certain parts, i get why they did it (Ellie not killing Abby, breaking the cycle of violence for example). Either way, you can't please everyone.

[@EscLoona]

I really love the game. Such a beautiful story if you think about it.

[@komix1873]

@Meher Chaithanya why you hatin??for a lot of ppl include myself , its a really good Story and well written..accept the fact...

[@sindelscat9336]

So you call me out for saying that I don't like it and saying that I have bad taste, because apparently you like it and you can't handle someone with a different opinion.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@komix1873 oh it is a fact honey, you must have eaten a brain tumor for breakfast or something, because it's actually an opinion accept it and move on.

[@komix1873]

@@sindelscat9336 dont speak on yourself dude, game is great deal with it

[@sindelscat9336]

@@komix1873 the ghost of tsushima is better deal with it.

[@kentwpiano]

I love the ending, i really do. I see people saying the game was pointless cause "the goal" wasn't met. but, isn't that kinda how life is? Sometimes you work your ass off for something but don't get what you wanted in the end. That happens all the time. So to me, it just feels very real. Also, I would've been horrified at the notion of killing Abby. Like seriously, what did she do wrong? Joel murdered her father and destroyed her family. If any quest for vengeance is righteous, hers is

[@anoe1]

I agree that Ellie does not end up killing Abby because you know what she has someone else to care for Lev.. and even if Ellie kill Abby would that really satisfied her? Revenge does not really accomplish anything really .. Joel still gone .. so i guess that why she does not kill Abby because she has remembrance of Joel, what he has to do to survive ... so she understood.. "i guess two wrongs don't make a right" . as u never know what real story behind for each both side ......

[@chadchaddingtion]

I think It’s a good ending but Revenge is Needed Because she Killed Jesse and Joel and alll the Bad things she Did

[@idkidc1885]

You know that she killed Joel cause he killed her father and the cure for humanity he deserved to die even if it was very sad.. And everyone in that world does bad things not only Abby

[@chadchaddingtion]

Glitch Beast I’m a diehard Fan I know I’m not Dumb

[@idkidc1885]

@@chadchaddingtion chill I didnot say sth bad

[@chadchaddingtion]

GABRIEL ZION yea I know but he died to Early

[@chrismoore4724]

@GABRIEL ZION We dont even know if the Fireflies were even capable of making a vaccine. Even if they could, how could they possibly mass produce and distribute it. And what makes you think the Fireflies would actually use the cure to save humanity and not use it as a power grab? The Firelfies were not good people

[@evehagert6063]

Does anyone think that she didn't forgive Joel and she'smoving on from him entirely? I really don't want to think that leaving the guitar was moving on from him fully. That would break my heart even more so than now.

[@jasonblack2477]

Imagine kratos gets on a revenge quest and after all the killing and hunting kratos just stops and says out of nowwhere oh yeah killing is bad like wtf last of us

[@Wholesomewebs]

Without that last flashback conversation in context, I would think the ending could’ve been worse. But I appreciate this ending because of that flashback.

[@logang9242]

Interesting video 🤓

[@DomTheBomb]

Appreciate it

[@plinkage]

i get why ellie went back to kill abby. i get why she didnt, because she wanted to beat abby, not kill her. the second she won, she was done. she needed to do that in order to make peace with her relationship with joel. i get all that, but the thing that bugs me is how dina is gone, they never show the town, did she go back, did she leave everyone and go off on her own, did she go back to where she grew up, did she continue her so far almost non stop traveling. if they make a 3rd game the ending will be a good open ended one and ill understand. but as is, it feels far to empty. and i get thats part of it, she lost everything, she feels empty. but i wanna know what she does with that emptiness. just feels cut short. :/

[@DomTheBomb]

Exactly I feel the same

[@Hannah-kk2yg]

Hey dom, at first I hated the game after my first play through. I think you might know that because I remember commenting about it. Anyways, I watched a review that really changed my perspective (I recommend it to anyone who disliked the game) it’s a review by Nathan Zed, the title I think is “the last of us II is a flawed masterpiece”

[@DomTheBomb]

Seen that video great watch

[@esrael._.1353]

it make a lot of sense about the ending of the last of us part II before I didn't really understand about the ending and when I saw the video it make a lot of sense

[@eilonrusso2276]

Yesssssssssss finally! I'm in for a treat yay

[@jefecristo6867]

I have always like the ending. For me, one, Joel is not a good man. He is a villain in some many stories. The player is attached to Joel because we play as him. We have his perspective. But those whose lives he destroys do not. From the game world's perspective, Joel is a villain. His actions led to his death. His pain unleashed pain unto the world, and the world returned the favor. Abby is the same. Her quest for revenge cost her all her friends. Ellie is the same. During the story, all of Ellie's memories, visions of Joel are of pain. The pain of their separation. The guilt of not reconciling after the last argument. The visual of watching him die. The cycle of violence due to continue forever. But you can see how murdering affects Ellie. She can kill in defense. She can kill for protection. Murdering is different for her. You can see the dissonance on her face after each murder. You see she is struggling in her quest for revenge. You can see she wants to turn away. But she is driven by her guilt more than her love. It is her love for him that we see in her reactions to her murders. But her guilt drives her to continue. She escapes it for a short time. Given the opportunity to turn away from it to be with Dina. But Tommy brings it back into her life. And once again the guilt drives her quest. It is only in that last moment when she has a positive memory of Joel, that the guilt is set free. In that moment accepting loss. In that moment remembering love and what it was like to be human. Knowing that Joel wanted her not to be like him. Not to end like him. There are issue with how ND went about telling the story. I think people are overly critical. I think the ending was solid. In a world full of despair, anguish, suffering, guilt, we can still choose to be better than we were before. That's how I interpreted it anyway.

[@wulf76]

Who knows about that braclet she could have had that in her pack that whole time so it wouldn't get destroyed and put it back on duing the time skip back to the abandoned farmhouse? & i highly doubt abby would trust seeing ellie again after that final encounter in a part 3 . & from having seen others with and also having ptsd it gets worse unless you have some therapy or good drugs to stop the pain and nightmares. So i think her leaving everythig behind would be her way of letting go and starting up somewhere else , but who knows i am still a fan of abby and her reasons but i do understand ellies downward spiral into maddness and coming to the edge of no return.

[@davidchen2866]

Give it a year or two, the haters will come around and realize how much of a masterpiece this game is. There’s too many virgins hating on this game for no reason. I’ve never felt this much emotion in a game EVER.

[@BlueBlur2003]

Imagine calling people virgins for having legit criticism with the story. Also no this story is a damn mess and our opinions will never change about it. I'm honestly shocked Dom hearted your comment.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@BlueBlur2003 in fact the opinions will only start to grow, as the years move on and they will only hate it more.

[@TheNeiland]

In my opinion the last of us 2 was okay it would be better if you played as tommy instead of Abby and you got to choose the ending where you stay with Dina, and Tommy goes to kill Abby but gets kicked out of Jackson or if you go to kill abby as Ellie it is the same except you kill abby

[@discipll]

Here's the thing that people don't get, and bare with me on this the end of this will let u see this in a new light. Just think about what would envoke the strongest emotion. : Truly, this game isn't like the typical superhero type movies, like with how Ironman went out. Everyone wanted Joel to have a moment like that right? NaughtyDog Knew that, and the reason they DIDN'T do it, is because what would make thr player be even more emotional and completely let it consume us, they way Ellie was consumed. Its perfect for letting us feel that same hate as with Ellie, and thats one fucking story isn't it? You truly relate with Ellie. NaughtyDog wants to fuck with us and take us on a Rollercoaster that many don't want. But why?? First off Joel isn't a good person, and eveyone makes their own choice the way they see fit and what they think is right. Its why the doctor did what he had to do, its why Joel did what he had to do, and why Ellie went on this quest. Its emotionally draining, and honestly they pulled it off amazingly. **After Abby killed Joel, we saw she still had nightmares, and it only stopped when she saves Lev and Yara and takes them upon herself. Its the first real good she has done. And she no longer has nightmares. She still is generally a bad person, but NaughtyDog wants to give everyone a chance, and it wants us to give it a chance, give her a chance. And it is why Part 3 will happen 110% Mark my words. If Ellie killed Abby, she would still have nightmares like Abby still did. We saw Ellie still had PTSD and couldn't live normally even with J.J and Dina at the 1st farm scene. So she went on to get revenge again. What changed?? Ellie put a knife to Lev's throat, to get abby to fight her. Thats not cool, and Ellie knows what she was becoming, and it wasn't her. It wasn't her nature, because in the 1st game, she still didn't want to kill unless she had to. Killing abby would only haunt Lev and the cycle would probably continue AGAIN!! he would be on his own with noone. Ellie basically smacked Abby with a golf club, in front of Lev, same with Abby. THAT end scene is basically the same with Joel death Scene, if Ellie went all the way through.Lev doesn't deserve that. Ellie is better than that, Ellie is truly the strongest willed person. The game at its core was about her and the fireflies in the 1st place. Joel was just a guy who came across Ellie, (FOR THE FIREFLIES) in the whole 1st place anyways. Also.... Ellie was angry at herself that she didn't treat Joel better. But atleast she tried to forgive him, and YOU CAN HEAR JOELS VOICE BREAKDOWN after he said: "I'd like that". And she leaves with Joel's sad voice: " YUp" This is a quote from TWD game: ""Actions have consequences no matter the intent"". Carlos said that in S2 in the van. Joel had a good intent, but his actions in a cruel world, i mean its realistic enough that he got that death. In reality, we ain't getting a superhero death. Part 3 will connect everything, and I'm sure you guys will love it.

[@JesusReyes-kr3wt]

The fact that around 60,000 trolls gave it negative reviews, over 69,000 people who actually played it defended and agreed it was a masterpiece

[@Magicat27]

I’m glad that Ellie was able to walk away before killing Abby, probably “killing” that last part of the old Ellie. I also believe that Ellie has already reunited with Dina, but the ending left me a lot more sad before seeing the bracelet. It’s very nice that there is a lot left up to interpretation in the ending, sparking critical thinking.

[@heisenberg334]

Ending was so sad

[@DomTheBomb]

Very sad

[@takes2knowgames900]

honestly i didnt want to hurt abbie at all after finding out why she went after joel in the first place, and how much she was already dealing with in her life. So glad they didnt kill her.

[@klevertorres5782]

wrote this before watching the vid* i honestly think the ending is good she learned that revenge wouldnt bring joel back unlike abby she couldnt let go of her past

[@mrkaiser7827]

(Earlier Sorry for my English) To be honest, i like the ending. I understand why people are upset about it. It's kinda weird. Not that people are upset, and the ending is. However I also understand what its point is about. It was directed weird. I don't think that fight was necessary. Both of protagonists chose an obviously losing option - revenge. And both of them paid the price. In the end I didn't wish anybody to die. Neither Ellie, nor Abby. I'd rather they talk. But again "what I would like". What we have we have. And I don't mind. It's good for me. And I don't mind if you don't like it. As well as you like.

[@anthonyfleishman945]

personally I feel like if they ended it after the fight it would've been better. the final cutscene soiled it for me and many others

[@phoenixhunteryt7554]

When a video about The last of Us 2 is better than the whole game.