The Last of Us Part II - Story Explained

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Hello everyone, and welcome to the next instalment of Lore and Order. This time around, we'll be looking into the story in The Last of Us Part II, but we'll also be recapping the story so far across the whole franchise! This is a longer video this time, so grab a drink, sit back, and enjoy!
CHAPTERS
Intro - 0:00 - 0:29
Timeline/Plot - 0:29 - 6:06
DAY ONE - 6:06 - 9:23
DAY TWO - 9:23 - 11:20
DAY THREE - 11:20 - 14:25
AFTERMATH - 14:25 - 16:50
Cordyceps Brain Infection - 16:50 - 18:34
The Infected - 18:34 - 22:35
The Fireflies - 22:35 - 25:53
The WLF - 25:53 - 28:05
The Seraphites - 28:05 - 32:13
The Rattlers - 32:13 - 33:02
Final Questions - 33:02 - 40:12
Outro - 40:12 - 40:56
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[@k9broc292]

Interesting fact on day two Abby and Ellie are both in the hospital. You can hear the rat king roar right as ellie beats Nora. Nora was protecting her friend while Abby was fighting the rat king in ground zero.

[@mikeplayer5208]

I thought this but question the timing. Can clearly hear the rat King, but you also hear talk of Abby having already escaped these contradict each other

[@k9broc292]

@@mikeplayer5208 i totally get you but none of the wolves know exactly where abby is. Remember Nora helped her escape and then sent her to ground zero and for all the wolves know she is gone but don't know where.

[@mikeplayer5208]

@@k9broc292 that does make sense, interesting to think that Ellie had got that close to Abby and not known about it

[@martinezmartinez6453]

So many people think this but it isn’t true, when playing as Abby after leaving the hospital you can clearly see the guards on the walls are still alive showing that Ellie hadn’t arrived yet.

[@FearToXic123]

Also another fact they were both there - the power gets turned on while playing as Ellie. Right after her and Nora fall into the pit containing the spores. The only way for the power to be turned on would be manually. Meaning Abby was in the basement turning on the power to get through those doors. The soldiers even get startled on the top floor with Ellie when it gets turned on.

[@senorita7187]

I like how you explain everything , we dont even have to ask for specific character explanation video

[@GamingHarryYT]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@elizabethmccandless5765]

@@GamingHarryYT what bout the flashback for elite/ Joe before/ after her birthday, Abby and her dad before Joe killed him?

[@harryscottplays9050]

You Name Harry

[@matthewdempsey1746]

@@GamingHarryYT wh

[@guilhermesstrueb881]

You forgot the tapes Joel finds on the hospital. The cure was not a 100% thing, others immune test subjects like Elly, died without a positive result and cure....Part 2 writers didn't even mention those facts or simply ignored to put some drama and blame Joel.

[@lilbaku18]

I thought that was just a lie Joel told Ellie at the end of TLOU. Don't think there are any tapes saying there were other immune.

[@nos_astra1878]

They didn't mention this because it has no bearing on the plot. It's the players needing justification that Joel saving Ellie was the right thing to do, who want this to be brought up again. But for Joel saving Ellie was a no-brainer. Even if the vaccine was a 100% thing, at that point Joel needed Ellie to live, and there was very little that would have stopped him. In Part II there are only a handful of people left who knew Jerry. Abby, Mel, Owen. So you have the former fireflies who trusted a vaccine could be made and mourn the loss of opportunity and hope and, on a personal level, the loss of Jerry. And you have Joel, who probably would have chosen Ellie over a cure anyway. So what authority should Naughty Dog have invented to step on a soap box and be the judge of who had more of a right to go on a killing spree?

[@ruthiekest3218]

@@nos_astra1878 I don't liked part 2 how Joel die.itwas dum,good thing I didn't get that game

[@nos_astra1878]

@@ruthiekest3218 His death is hard to watch, I certainly don't enjoy that. But despite his death, he is very present. There are awesome, lengthy flashbacks that give some insight into their life in Jackson. The gameplay and visuals are amazing, and the story is really well told. It may not be the story some people wanted, but it's an unusual challenge to be playing as the killer of the previous main character. Quite the twist,and a risky move by Naughty Dog. The backlash is not pretty.

[@ziegfeld4131]

@@ruthiekest3218 Lol people forget how big of a POS Joel was dude was killing and robbing and possibly eating people he also killed the doctor for no reason he could have knocked him out

[@somehomelessguy3779]

My only concern when it came to the last of us, is when everybody seems to forget about one other aspect of the events taken place in the last game at the ending. It seems everyone forgot that the fireflies where going to kill Joel regardless if he had tried to save ellie. You find a voice recorder of Marlene talking about how all the other fireflies wanted Joel dead and Marlene caved in and allowed them to carry out that plan. I wished that it wasn't a collectable and was given to us in a cutsecene because people keep missing out on that important fact. Like yeah Joel did save Ellie for his own personal conflictions but he was also forced in a situation that would force him into fending for himself as well. And I believe no one here would just simply agree to die just so some group of people can possibly botch up a possible chance of mankind's survival. I say this because many people believed that Abby father was tremendously stupid on the fact that they have to kill ellie just to see how her body can naturally protect her from the fungal infection, eventhough his idea was that the spinal fluid surrounding the brain is what's protecting her but he never does a spinal fluid check which would have been a much better option as to not loose your only chance at a cure. I just think that the second game didn't help with clearing things about Joel and the fire flies causing these misconceptions of how people viewed them.

[@krasmasov6852]

"They asked me to kill the smuggler. I'm not about to kill the one man in this facility that might understand the weight of this choice. Maybe he can forgive me." Why you lying, bro?

[@somehomelessguy3779]

@@krasmasov6852 my mistake, I interpreted the recording as she if she was going to let the others do it for her. The part when she hoped that Joel can forgive her sort of sounded like it was the go ahead to kill him, but it was actually ment towards her letting ellie die. That was my big mistake, but I still stand by the other things I did say about the doctor rushing into this and the second game not clearing Joel or the fireflies very well

[@nonamesoyouwontsearchitupi372]

@@somehomelessguy3779 Apology accepted, bro.

[@coreywallace2052]

Wrong.

[@monsterhanna6691]

That's a really good observation, and while I haven't played the games myself--I've just seen play throughs--I do see your point. I still sympathize with Joel either way, and definitely hate Abby.

[@vornamenachname8090]

37:01 Thank you. I noticed that many people kinda overlook this important observation. Part of the reason why Ellie is so traumatized after torturing Nora and this is exactly why Ellie later tells Dina “I don‘t want to lose you“. Ellie was terrified that she might suffer the same fate as Abby. Losing (more) of her loved ones. I am pretty convinced that Nora not only revealed Abby‘s location, but also the exact reason for what Abby did: that the surgeon was Abby‘s father. And that happened off-screen. That‘s why Ellie later replied evasively to Jesse when asked “why they did it“ referring to Abby and her friends.

[@roamno7877]

Harry, Long time viewer here I just usually keep quiet. I can’t begin to say how much your videos mean. It is so wonderful to hear and see someone take the time to dissect these games in the way that their fans feel they deserved to be. I have a recommendation for a game I think you would really like: Twelve Minutes. I think this would be an excellent addition to the channel, if you haven’t played it already. That’s all I have. Please keep up the great work. ❤️

[@GamingHarryYT]

Thank you so much! Really glad you enjoy the videos!

[@Capex567]

@@GamingHarryYT Isaac did die it was revealed over the radio in the theater while playing as Abby

[@Reeeko562]

Amazing recap....... Just my two cents here: Everybody didn't forget that the military killed his daughter. Even the guy that killed his daughter told his commanding officer, they are not infected and it's a little girl. The commanding officer still confirmed the shooting and the guard still shot anyways. Is Joel a bad guy? Yes and No, but he's angry. He's angry that a human being murdered his daughter. It wasn't like his daughter was killed by a runner, stalker, etc. Now this doctor comes along saying he can create a cure that isn't guaranteed and this is to save the future of humanity. Humans took the life of his daughter and he wasn't going to let another human take the life of Ellie. Again this is my opinion - but in his mind he doesn't give a shit about humanity bcuz they killed Sarah and were going to kill Ellie. NOT ON HIS WATCH. I also wish Abby knew the story of Joel and how his daughter was murdered by the military. In Joel defense, the doctor could've gotten out of the way and let him take Ellie. He did pull a scalper on Joel. Joel didn't torture Abbys dad like Abby did to Joel. BIG AND... Play that part again where Joel kills Abbys Dad... If you do nothing, the FireFlies come in and dump a whole mag into Joel.... BOOOM 🙂

[@monsterhanna6691]

That makes so much sense it's insane. I never thought of it that way before, but I'm still Team Joel/Ellie 100%

[@__Tuna_De_Tuna__]

These were exactly my thoughts, mate! I genuinely stand by Joel's side since he didn't torture Abby's dad, he just shot him as he was simply standing in the way and refused to get aside. Joel didn't not deserve that torturing at all.

[@DoorsToHideBehind156]

I thought in the game you were playing as ellie when she sneaks in and sees Abby killing Joel. There's no choice she kills him in the cutscene. So, if ellie does nothing, then fireflys come in and kill Joel? So either way he dies?

[@NikoEli]

@@DoorsToHideBehind156 I was talking about TLOU Part 1 - the hospital scene where Joel gets to the operating room. If Joel just stands there in front of the doctors long enough, the fireflies will run in and kill Joel. Part 2 - Abby brutally murdered Joel based on emotion for her dad. Of course she pissed and we now understand why Abby killed Joel. However, she totally negates the part that her dad wanted to murder Ellie. Even though he was torn about doing and Abby said if that were me I would want to die as well. However, the dad was incompetent... Didnt even want to take the time to study her. We all know vaccines and cures takes time to develop after testing soo many times. In this case - he just resulted to, lets open up her brain and kill her to "try" and make a cure... He's already failed with a bunch others and its safe to say he will fail with Ellie.

[@MosesInHD]

Bruh I swear I only saw the other day that you'd just finished the first draft of the script? You smasshhhhhh these videos out for real! Respect for the grind haha! Class content as always

[@GamingHarryYT]

I appreciate that my bro. Hope you're well. Love that you've started a channel!

[@MosesInHD]

@@GamingHarryYT not gonna lie mate it was you who inspired me to start one!

[@ramel3892]

Been binge watching all your story explained series. I have been searching for these kinds of recap for games. Thank you!

[@ImBarelyMe]

I have been watching through so many of your videos for the last 8 hours, genuinely 😭 your videos are so detailed and it’s amazing

[@_Eltoto93]

Ellie was like his daughter. He didn’t want to lose her again.

[@briantariq1313]

Selfish but as a father I understand Joel completely

[@roxymarks9636]

Wow what an incredible video, this helped me understand so much of what those “gangs” were actually trying to do. Props to you for finding all this information, you must be very smart

[@37limkimhour68]

I finally accept that Joel is gone but he still in my heart event he not alive in TLOU part-2

[@u3534]

I still won’t accept it, even with Tommy I thought he died after being shot and I won’t forgive Abby

[@Jozombies115]

@@u3534 I'm pretty sure Tommy got shot in the ear, it just looked like a headshot.

[@clickersgotcoochiehair]

when abby and lev go to the theather you can hear on the radio that isaac indeed did die

[@zombielols1895]

Super well-made, I love the effort you put in this!

[@Oceanwaves7]

That would be nice to see Ellie’s father tied into the Catalina islands ending and us getting flashbacks of Ellie’s mother and father and how deep that goes and also some new characters and backstories

[@prussianwossun9152]

The tape recording is Nora. The person who confirmed Ellie's suspicious was subsequently infected and tortured by her. Such is life. The video is fantastic, really well put together, but it's the pinnacle theatre (Cassandra is what they are showing circa 2013) and the hunters after Ellie at the TV station are the WLF even though I think that's what you meant. I really don't want anybody to take this the wrong way it's just a reference point. Also, the scars win the war. Hang around at the radio as Abby when you enter the theatre. A soldier from unit echo radio's in, confirms Isaac's death and that no units escaped. I loved the video

[@snakesghost7817]

Oh shit, thanks for the info ! People find so many easter eggs in games.

[@jdnuni]

Isaac's death is confirmed by a WLF over the radio at the theater as Abby

[@blazbad1193]

Wasn’t it confirmed also that the WLF lost the fight?

[@jdnuni]

@@blazbad1193 yea they were pretty much wiped out, not sure if it was Ellie's and Tommy's actions that shifted the tides or not but either way the WLF are gone

[@franknotzappa]

Thank you. I just finished the game and remembered hearing that when I got to the theater as Abby.

[@shanegovender6780]

Awesome job my man! Lol wasn't an easy story to document; especially because of the way the game told the story! But you did well! Keep up the good work 💫💪

[@LtDan1202]

This game is one of my favorites series out there, and you covered the story and plot with Joel, Abby, and Ellie so well. Nice video man.

[@rydagamer101vlog]

Well actually, when playing as Abby going to the Cassandra theatre, if you go to the radio, you will hear WLF saying that Isaac did die from Yarra

[@ghost_rain1996]

I dont think Joel undermined Tess's Death, When He Was Talking To Ellie You Can Clearly See How Upset He Was, He Just Didn't Want To Talk About It, That's Just Joel's Personality

[@GamingHarryYT]

When I say undermined, I mean that Tess basically sacrificed herself for nothing. I mean, she was dying anyway but still

[@TheSec09]

It's an excellent video and since I am on the second playthrough, it helps me wrap up things better and appreciate even more the story! Still, I want to make two clarifications: - Ellie does not know why Abby killed Joel. In their confrontation, she says “He did what he did to save me. There’s no cure because of me, I’m the one you want.” It seems Ellie thinks Abby is mad at Joel for taking away the cure, I don’t think she realizes she killed her father. In all of Ellie’s dialogue with Abby’s friends, it never came up. - The background after beating the game is actually the building with a round tower mentioned by the rattler when Ellie points the shotgun at him, not the future location where Aby and Lev went.

[@indo42O]

Very well done. My favorite narrative series of games ever

[@ParamoreFAV3]

Top 3 stories I’ve ever played. The connections they make to the first game, and how the characters’ and their backstory all interact with each other is just simply amazing.

[@GamingHarryYT]

Yeah, I personally don't understand the majority of the fanbase slamming this game, as if they've been personally attacked by Naughty Dog. Yeah it had its flaws, but people got WAYYYY too emotionally invested

[@ParamoreFAV3]

@@GamingHarryYT thank you man. I don’t understand it. If you don’t like it, don’t play it it’s as simple as that but being so emotionally invested in Naughty Dog will benefit you in no way shape or form.

[@reuben4721]

@@GamingHarryYT The thing is, the majority of the fanbase isn't slamming this game. Most absolutely love it. It's just the haters are so loud with this game. Also they did a hell of a lot of reviewing bombing, like A LOT. Also videos on youtube will get more views if they are critical or something instead of enjoying it.

[@cineastik8220]

@@GamingHarryYT: Believe me, those who hate the game are not a majority at all, but a minority that is very loud… maybe most of the big gaming youtubers or streamers hate it, but then again, many of those people show heavy signs of egomania, delusions of grandeur, and on top of that, a huge lack of intellect…

[@evilcatghost307]

@@cineastik8220 yeah tubers going on a hate spree was kinda crap. I get you need views but it definitely felt like they were jumping on the hate train for clicks

[@pinkiusspiukuss7115]

Even though I already know how the story goes and that I did not need any explaining of the story, I still wanted to watch this video because Gaming Harry is just so awesome at explaining any story. That is how much I like his videos. Keep up the good work Gaming Harry.

[@OMNIxEVIL]

My man seriously incredible thing you have here! I love the fact you took the time to get the script together for this one and honestly it paid off! Much love and respect brother

[@EveBatStudios]

Joel was selfish but Joel was also a little psychotic. As someone who's survived some harrowing experiences myself I can tell you it takes something from you. The man had never had a moment of emotional resolution in his life. He was so bad at addressing his feelings his own brother walked away from him for a huge part of his life. (also something I've experienced in reverse) He couldn't hardly say goodbye to Tess. A man constantly collapsing under unresolved trauma can't plant his feet to make good decisions. A man plagued by loss is going to fight to hold onto what they feel they have left. By the time he woke up to hearing he was going to lose Ellie without even getting to say goodbye he was reacting like an unthinking machine lost to emotion. I always thought this part of his character was really well written and it shows intention in having the second game be about the effects and repercussions of that trauma.

[@Jimmy001]

Thank you for sharing your interpretation and explaining it with your own empathy. It seems like you are able to unpack the consequential effect it has on loved ones even though it isn't unpacked in the game. LToU p2 does something to make us work on that. Joel was unwilling to open up and this resulted eventually in sacrificing all that got in between himself and his closure, albeit an external substitute (or surrogate daughter) for family. Thanks again.

[@SadhoursXL]

To be honest with you, if the world takes away the people you love from you, you will never have empathy. His wife, His daughter, His smuggling partner (Tess) Why would I wanna have empathy for the world?

[@AFoxInFlames]

If it was my kid, I'd of done the same thing as Joel. Might sound harsh but, my son is my world. Yeah it's selfish but if you're a parent...you're conflicted. And yeah Joel is a bad guy but as you said is anyone that's left really good? If they're still alive most likely you've done some fucked up shit.

[@siddharthbhat2365]

The one thing he did wrong, which also led to all this drama is that he didn't tell her the truth about saving her. a lot of the drama could have been avoided if he simply explained it to her "I lost Sarah, i couldn't lose you". She would have understood.

[@AFoxInFlames]

@@siddharthbhat2365 I know right? They had to save the "suspense" for part 2 lol

[@ichigokurosaki1081]

Like Rick Grimes said to the governor on the walking dead "we've all done the worst but we're still here and we can come back from the darkness"

[@Lunabyes]

@@ichigokurosaki1081 And when you're lost in the darkness.. Look for the light. Ellie was Joels light.

[@christinahutchinson2884]

@@siddharthbhat2365nooooooo she knew he lost his daughter she’s very aware of the fact that he lost a child but she was unaware that she’d die in the surgery but only said that if it meant saving the world she’d sacrifice herself but she didn’t know that Abby’s dad & their group basically was gonna perform the surgery no matter she was informed & agreed or not informed & rebelled, what Joel should’ve told her is the real truth: I saved your life against your will because they ambushed us the way they did to do the surgery before u could change your mind & were willing to do it against your will if it meant possibly saving the world, & they wouldn’t let me see you one last time

[@WolfPack-mz7eb]

This part confuses me. As Ellie beats Nora. I’m gonna assume Nora knew where Abby was gonna go, so she told Ellie the aquarium even tho Mel and Owen are their. Did she think it through so when Ellie gets there, it will be a 3v1 and Abby has a more chance of surviving?

[@Pablojunior2006]

Most likely

[@maximumkillmtg]

Or maybe Ellie just tortured Nora and she just caved. I mean, it's implied by how shaken Ellie was afterwards that she had done something absolutely heinous.

[@monsterhanna6691]

Unpopular opinion, but I'm on Team Joel. Yes, I realize that maybe Ellie should've had a say in what would happen, but considering that Joel lost Sarah and that Ellie reminds him of her and is sort of a second daughter, can we really blame him for his actions? Maybe he was selfish, but it wasn't for the wrong reasons. Also, who's to say that if they did try to get a cure from Ellie that it would actually work? There's no guarantee of that and if they failed in finding a cure, it would also mean that they killed an innocent girl for no good reason. Why take that risk if it never worked? It would just be a waste of time.

[@crazyinsane500]

Considering the game lost, using generous estimates, 50 million dollars: This is not an unpopular opinion.

[@obamacrockadile2136]

I'm team Joel too it was a big risk, that either way led to Ellie dying in the process of trying to find a cure

[@jimmycevallos4468]

That’s what a risk is. They wouldn’t have known unless they would have done it.

[@xekusion]

A cure for a humanity, to bring back a species that ravaged the world. For the remaining few to hunt and feed on more people out of survival and sport. Yeah, I think I’d let the world burn for my remaining years and not risk a life on an off chance that a cure “might” work.

[@ronaldgipa8731]

Joel chooses Ellie over entire humanity

[@TooZanie]

During my playthrough I was so confused because I thought abby killed him and then when I saw him there I didn't even realize he was half blind

[@therealpenns7313]

This all makes a lot more sense thank you so much

[@seanbaker555]

Honestly if the fireflies could be single handedly taken out by Joel (and other forces yes), the I doubt they had the man power to mass produce a serum, to save an entire country.

[@snakesghost7817]

Dude, thank you so much. I played Last of Us 1 8 years ago and I completely forgot the plot. I've heard great things about Last of Us 2, so I bought it and jumped into the game cold. I was blown away by this game, it was so good. The whole time I was like "what is going on ? Why did the blonde girl kill Joel ? Why did [insert crazy scene] happened ? I was slowly figuring out throughout the game, but the whole time I was saying "Yeah, I definitely need to go to KZbin to find out why some things happened". You completely explained everything and connected all the dots for me. Even though I just beat the game today, I had so many questions. I didn't even know this game's virus is based off of a real virus bugs can catch. That creeped me out man, lol. Good job and thanks a bunch !

[@GamingHarryYT]

You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed!

[@markopolo9543]

Ok I’m a fan of your story telling great job seriously😊😊👍👍

[@rudigerh5234]

Me listening to this washing dishes and reliving the whole experience. Personally loved the ending.

[@jamg8135]

Being put in Joel’s situation in real life, I would do exactly what he did. It would be very morally wrong, selfish and monstrous but I would do it out of love.

[@023Whiplash]

And then you would be dead aswel

[@dmitryvorobyev1986]

Thanks for this in-depth story explanation. The one thing I’m missing is why people didn’t like the feds, what did they do worse than other groups like Fireflies?

[@DoorsToHideBehind156]

Fedra collected people in rural areas to send the to the QZ's but if there wasn't any room, they killed them. Uninfected people. Instead of letting them live and potentially die from infection they just wiped them out. Fedra is also heavy military state militia similar to nazis which is why Bill called them nazis in episode 3

[@rapurimanka]

@@DoorsToHideBehind156 tough times force tough decisions. Don’t think they were doing this for fun or because they are maniacs.

[@zachantes1161]

Old comment, but I figured I'd answer. The main reason people hate FEDRA is because (basically) because they are the ones in control, often being corrupt and brutal to keep control over the remaining American cities. Some of this brutality is necessary, with things like aggressively rooting out of infected and strict control of people's movements being needed to prevent another outbreak. For many, who lived in relative luxury and freedom in the pre-outbreak US, this is unacceptable. Most of them have forgotten how bad the disease is in the last couple decades, and want to get back some of the freedoms they had before the outbreak. It isn't helped but the fact that many quarantine zones are even more corrupt and brutal than others, with some falling to rebellion, infection, or famines. Due to this unrest, groups like the Fireflies and Washington Libration Front begin popping up. At first they are driven by their want for change, but over time they realize that things aren't as simple as they once thought. They come to realize that the rules imposed on them might have existed for a reason. They also start losing their fight, as their members are wiped out by FEDRA, which leads them to further desperation. It's not confirmed, but I believe that the Fireflies utter dedication to getting a cure by any means necessary is less about saving humanity, and more about their own self preservation. They are losing, both to FEDRA and also to the fact that their people's morale is dropping. Many Fireflies are abandoning the cause because they don't think they can make any sort of difference. Getting a cure would not only validate everything they've ever done, it would give their people a reason to keep going, and give them leverage over FEDRA. It could even give them enough leverage to topple FEDRA as people join them instead for the promise of a vaccine and the freedom it brings. Add onto this the fact they never tried to work with FEDRA, even once they had a probably viable immune person, and that makes me think that their entire goal was political in nature rather than benevolent.

[@markustyrvainen3169]

Excellent explaning as display!👏🏼💯

[@Mr.2GD]

Killing the one and only doctor who can cure humanity, and it was my father. I'd be enraged too. It's a matter of perspective. Both Joel & the Fireflies have their own objectives and choices to make.

[@log7029]

One of my favorite things about the game is that it really makes you ask if there are truly any “good guys” left

[@BlindedBraille]

@@log7029 So many people dislike that about Part II. They feel like the game need to validate their feelings when the story about being uncomfortable with emotions and seeing the other side as human/flawed.

[@log7029]

@@BlindedBraille I definitely understand that, the game was obviously so hit or miss. Some people think it’s a masterpiece, some people think it’s a failure. I think it falls somewhere in between, the story has its major faults, but the gameplay is amazing. (In my opinion)

[@stanleylee3329]

As much as it isn’t the story I wanted them to tell-and they probably could have told it better-it’s still clearly a really good story. I really wish it could’ve gotten the universal appeal the first game had

[@GamingHarryYT]

Yeah, I mean, I still love the fact that they didn't go with the whole 'virus escaped from a lab and destroyed the world' cliche. The virus was a literal accident of nature.

[@Vhlathanosh]

Then there's Ellie having a problem with killing Abby after she's killed a bunch of people just to get to her. I mean come on, where's the consistency?!

[@jinx8evr]

It’s a good story, except it’s a horrible sequel, cause it misses all the things that fans loved about the first game (which was mainly the father daughter relationship of ellie and joel) - and the tone of the first game, though dire, was hopeful, whereas as this game is much sadder and tragic (which is fine, it just doesn’t match the tone of the first)

[@stanleylee3329]

@@jinx8evr it’s a complete progression of the decisions made in the first game.

[@Jozombies115]

@@stanleylee3329 I wish they would have just released like a 5 hour dlc with Ellie and Joel in those years. Would have made so many people who were disappointed with the second game happier.

[@xTetraMuffinsx]

I like how this game wasn't afraid to show women in the apocalypse, strong and sturdy, not all boobs. It's refreshing.

[@nathanmcguckin9518]

It’s stupid as fuck tho😂😂😂 WTF would a pregnant woman be out there in the open world on the front line WTF😂

[@efnfen]

Nice work, Harry. I like this game a lot. One of the biggest gut punches in any video game.

[@GamingHarryYT]

Totally agree!

[@zul6227]

Been waiting for this! Awesome man!

[@poutsamouni5483]

It is later confirmed in the radio that 1 issac died 2 wlf lost

[@littlecroissant2525]

The fact that this only has 95k views is a crime. As a fan of Naughty Dog and TLOU games, learning all I can is just a law for me. The way you explained the infected actually helps with grounded mode (one of the most difficult modes in the game next to survival). Down to the environment that the infected are in to how old they would have to be in order to look so far gone. Tip if you are trying to get the trophy for grounded and survival: I highly recommend memorizing the stages in your first route. Enemies will change, sure. However, there are stages where you can run past most enemies and collect supplies. You just have to hope that the AI doesn't get grabbed. Just run, run, run, and collect like a scared chipmunk. Environments give you bottles and bricks that allow you to take out a decent amount of enemies through stealth. But there are some enemies you just shouldn't waste your time with. This method helped me with part one and it has worked for me through some stages in part two. Good luck playing the more difficult levels of the game. And if you really want to have a good time, use one shot kill and infinite ammo. They will relieve SO much stress and sometimes the infected die in funny poses.

[@reggieg.6479]

Great video, did you ever do one for the first game? I love the depth you go into these videos !

[@joefeeney5497]

Great analysis. Super interesting, even for someone who hasn’t played the game.

[@catdean828]

Thanks for doing this. Good job.

[@Alan_The_Jaguar]

When you as abby comme to the theather to confront Ellie at the end of the game you can find in the radio room a transmission of the WLF confirming that issac was indeed killed on the Yara standoff, also you can see Issac in old FEDRA wanted posters as a nice detail

[@mellypickerill29]

I really enjoyed this video, thanks

[@iTerabithia]

I think that when Ellie left the Gutair seen in the window, she did that in case Dina stopped by to visit the house she would know that she did come home; and wanted to come back to her family.

[@Adog00]

I just finished this game man. Can’t wait to watch this and get my info straight lmao

[@christinahutchinson2884]

Dina & Ellie are so cute 😂 the way they were both ready to be the most stubborn teens in Jackson about getting Joel’s vengeance

[@wadejohnston4305]

You deserve millions of subs therefore spreading this *AMAZING* *content*

[@powerofthefro]

It was just with this video that I finally understood you were saying “lore and order” this whole time. Pardon my American accented brain

[@blackticalmayhem8461]

BILL is still one of my favorite characters a real "prepper " type guy👍..with traps set up #Genius

[@Mdrobile]

My bro was lead animator in this. He rules.

[@Fourthaboveall]

Not going to say I hated this game, but I wasn't fond of it. Maybe my high expectations for the story based on the first game had something to do with it.

[@GamingHarryYT]

Yeah I get you. For people to say they full on hated all of it, well that's a bit extreme. It featured some of the best gameplay I've seen in a long time. But yeah, story? 5/10

[@Death_true]

This is my first time hearing the story in full it’s not great not bad either I wish it was written less like a soap operatic episode of walking dead and more like an old man Logan style story (if you’ve read that story you got good taste)

[@PS4Pat]

Huh. Now you mention it, I do see the similarity. I haven't read Old Man Logan (or whatever the title is), but I've seen Logan a couple times. Joel is like Logan and Ellie is like the girl, X-23. Though X-23 is more of a clone of Logan whereas Ellie is no relation to Joel, but that's beside the point.

[@cepiv9775]

39:40 it is actually revealed that Isaac is dead when abby goes to the theater. when you first go in with lev, theres the radio that ellie had fixed and on it theres frantic chatter and somewhere in that, it is mentioned that isaac is dead and island is basically a constant warzone

[@loganshillington9812]

I always did like this game, but this makes me wonder if it’d be even better if it were actually ordered this way.

[@mtgmar240]

This is an amazing channel. Keep making videos yo. You're gonna have millions of subs soon

[@GamingHarryYT]

One day my friend... one day

[@mtgmar240]

@@GamingHarryYT yoooo this is insane bruh 💀I watch ya vids almost everyday I wasn't expecting a reply. Thanks bro it really made my day

[@SkittleZ87]

Love this! You have a new subscriber here! Loved the game and did go through that whole "hate Abby" thing but when you step back and play again a second time her story is quite compelling as well! Do you think there will be a 3rd game? I know there has been talk of one! I would love a Tommy DLC or Joel and Tommy in the time between outbreak day and the events of the 1st game!

[@GamingHarryYT]

Yeah definitely, but I'm not sure whether it will be directly centred on Ellie. It seems that she has forgiven Abby (at least a tiny bit) and that chapter of her story is over. Maybe it will focus on Abby and Lev now. Or maybe even little JJ years later? Who knows where Druckmann will take the story

[@1Dubbelman]

I don't think they'll make a third one, and I know if they don't it'll be because of the hateful dumbasses that tried their hardest to ruin the game and the personal lives of everyone involved. I would be really excited to see a third one, but I doubt Neil Druckmann will want to come anywhere near making a new game. I would be quite traumatized if I made a game and got that kind of awful backlash, especially if the game I made was as incredible as part 2 was.

[@jovanni2507]

mann i wanted jessie to love he was definitely one of my favorite people in the game

[@Aspir7]

When Joel confesses the truth to Ellie in the second game, all he says is: "Making a vaccine would have killed you. So I stopped them". Except, no, this is a retcon and that's not what happened in the first game. And this distorted re-telling is an inferior version of the story, which strips away a lot of the human element and realistic nuance to the whole picture, to try and make things more black & white and deliver a more bleak, depressing and pointless message, which I personally find offers a lot less value to us (as the audience, I guess). A great narrative or story is a gift to those it reaches, which can teach us so much, just by being authentically human. It often holds a lot less value when it tries to give some subjective commentary on certain values, or thinks it has a message for the masses etc. That's tricky ground for a writer, in my opinion. The best stories are relatable, and what makes something relatable is it being a 'human' story, even if it's set in a fantasy world, time, or place. A story could be set on one of Jupiter's moons in the year 1 billion AD, with alien dolphin creatures and still be a human story. Making a story more simple, one-sided, or without enough context makes it far less human. So here's my recollection of what Joel did at the end of the first game: The fireflies acted stupidly, knocking Joel out whilst he was obviously no threat and just trying to resuscitate a young girl. He awakes to find them rushing her immediately into surgery, to perform a procedure which definitely will kill her. And they refuse to allow either him or Ellie to be offered a proper explanation, time to breathe, or the ability to CHOOSE for themselves whether or not they want to make the ultimate sacrifice for THEIR mission. He is treated with literal violence and contempt and is threatened with death once he voices the briefest of protest to what they're doing. On the other hand, the fireflies obviously feel their mission is altruistic and of great benefit to what's left of humanity. They have suffered and sacrificed a lot for this mission, even though a significant amount of their losses was purely down to their own incompetence and one-sightedness. The "one person who could have made a vaccine" was killed by Joel because he chose to pick up a scalpel, point it at Joel, and state clearly that he wouldn't allow Joel to prevent him from carrying out his work on Ellie, which let's remind ourselves WILL KILL HER (a 14 year old girl). What I enjoyed so much about the first game's plot was that it was an interesting, complex and nuanced situation, with opposing perspectives and totally different experiences of life tragically coming into conflict with each other. You see the fireflies side, with their high mission, the obvious potential benefit of their goal, but their far-from-perfect ways. And then you feel simultaneously how Joel, with many of his own flaws, didn't really have much of a choice, and how the decisions of the fireflies railroaded him to act with the extreme measures he took. There were no easy or clearly superior solutions to the conflict. Neither Joel nor the fireflies have clean hands in the situation, and neither is a passive passenger helpless on the ride. Nothing is distorted black and white, and everything has a deep context to it. This makes it real and therefore, human. This makes it a worthwhile story which doesn't leave you feeling empty, hollow and depressed afterwards (like the second game does) even though it's a tragic and dark story. There, I finally said what's been on my mind about it. Now I can stop spouting so many words like there's no tomorrow haha

[@GamingHarryYT]

Thanks for your comment! Really good reading. Yeah, I mean ultimately I would've liked to have had that porch scene happen about 2 years earlier, not the day before Joel was killed. I would have been really invested in seeing Joel expand more on his justification for saving Ellie from the Fireflies, and really wanted to see him and Ellie repair their relationship. I (personally) feel like fans were robbed of that in a sense

[@Aspir7]

@@GamingHarryYT Thanks for replying! It was quite the long preachy rant I went on, and I got majorly carried away by it haha. It was just bubbling away for months and I was trying to understand why Part 2's story left me feeling empty and fatigued afterwards, while the first game stuck with me for a long time in a good way, and made me reflect a lot on everyone's actions, and what would I do in the shoes of Joel, Marlene, or the fireflies etc. Yeah, I agree with you and really felt something big was missing how Joel never explained to Ellie what really happened, or gave his own justification. They even had the "God gave me a second chance" line from him, which seemed like such a cop out and weak writing when the first game already made the original situation deep and multi-sided...Anyway, I really have to step away from the keyboard now! Thanks again!

[@ddp5406]

@@Aspir7 but still that is what happened tho, the cure woulda killed her and he stopped them...joel is not a man of many words and would never really open up to some big explanation of his feelings and thoughts anyway...his way of handling it was to just lie to her so she could move on with her life without needing to think "what if" or ask him "why" (because he also knows deep down, a big reason why he did what he did was due to his own selfishness of losing another baby girl)...there was no explanation that would satisfy her drive to be the sacrificial lamb that saved millions, and he knew that too. When joel does come to in the hospital and marlene is in shock that they survived the trip, he credits it all to Ellie because he even tried to convince her they should just go back to jackson instead of going through with the unknown of finding a cure....she was determined to get there, and it couldn't all be for nothing

[@The_Story_Of_Us]

There’s no “retcon” dude. A retcon is the game literally rewriting an established event and they NEVER DID THAT. Joel never doubted that they could make a vaccine and what you’re doing now is itself robbing the game of its nuance by trying to paint the Fireflies as unsympathetic and incompetent as possible in order to dismiss the possibility that they had any moral justification for their actions.

[@The_Story_Of_Us]

even if you took the Fireflies side in that conflict, it would still be a nuanced experience, because the guy you’ve spent a whole game growing to love and empathize with is doing something horrible and yet you can’t blame him for it because you know what he’s been through and he’s backed into a corner where the only way for him to save his own soul is to doom millions of people to die. You don’t have to pile on heaps of accusations against the Fireflies to make them look like evil bastards, they’re obviously not and if you care about nuance I know you’d acknowledge this.

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

I like the story and universe of The Last of us but I am not convince people can survive the fungi outbreak at all in areas where there are spores or you have to fight off the infected. The game made it look like there is a way by not getting bitten and spotting the spore clouds and wearing a mask to traverse through it. In reality it should be very hard to do so when you are in frantic combat with infected and they are trying their best to bite and scratch you. Not breathing in spore clouds is even harder when there isn't enough light and masks on hand.

[@revlouder5865]

The way you explain it makes me not hate this game anymore my cycle of hate has ended well done mate still not what I wanted from this I was hoping for more father daughter adventures but this helps easy my mind

[@Kronixs14]

TLOU is my favourite games and I thought my knowledge was up there but this has opened my eyes to things I didn’t even know! And this is amazing one of the best videos I’ve seen to do with TLOU this definitely needs more views new sub’

[@skyeinc1208]

Excellent work dude. Keep it up!

[@heihachi34]

The game actually confirms about Isaac's death. You can hear it on the radio if you stay long enough to listen to the entire comms. This happens when abby returns to the theater and goes up the side ladder, straight into the radio room where she finds maps and an active comms session. Listen to the session there, the person reporting from the island specifically mentions about Isaac's death to the central station of WLF.

[@angelnick07072]

I agree quite a complete detailed story in chronological order I like it 👍 good job

[@GamingHarryYT]

Thank you very much!

[@carole10131]

Just to put it out there. When Abby and Lev enter Cassendra theater. If you stay in the room with the radio. You will hear a conversation from a wolf on the island trying to call for backup. Wolf from section two says, "Please repeat!" Wolf on island says "Issac is fucken dead! Where hell is the backup? We are getting slaughtered out here." This is the confirmation that Issac died when Yara shot him. If you don't hang out in that room long enough it's easy to miss.

[@brianolson620]

Good stuff man! 👏

[@akinahara]

Imagine wanting to forgive someone then they suddenly die a day later because of their past mistakes

[@leou7523]

There has to be noted that ellie didn't find out that the farmhouse was empty, she knew it cause she is seeing wearing dina's lucky cuff/bracelet therefore this indicates that she returned to jackson, Dina gave her the bracelet (ellie didn't wear the bracelet on her trip to Santa Barbara) and said to ellie that they moved to jackson, so ellie goes on to the farmhouse to pick up her belongings also its likely that Abby and lev went to Catalina islands to join the fireflies

[@ronniehopper2726]

I want you to apply the same logic to negan remodeling Glenn's head

[@zachantes1161]

The main difference is that Abby killed Joel out of grief and misguided revenge, while Negan killed Glenn to make a show of force. Negan killed to ensure that things went his way from now on, Abby thought killing Joel would be the end of things.

[@jollyvr4178]

I'm late but you put so much time in your videos it's sad that other KZbinrs click bait and take these good KZbinrs attention keep up the work you'll get there

[@theplayeralsoknownasmousecop]

The only thing you got wrong is Isaac's death. When you arrive at the theater as Abby, you can check the radio Dina fixes and overhear the WLF scream that issac did in fact die from his injuries

[@poutsamouni5483]

You are wromg about the shamblers since we can see some in santa barbara i think its something different if ypu look at them they seem to have alergies and also to be fat

[@NeroLobo]

Just found the channel through Visage. Another great video. Thanks.

[@theogofguitar]

You have to wonder if a back and forth approach doing solely days would have faired better. I kind of think it would have played better and avoided the i have to play through Abby fir 20 hours to get back to Ellie

[@alexwilliams2276]

Yeah as cliche as it sounds it would work for this game. The game is constantly switching climax and rising action. That was my main problem with the game's writing, alongside some OOC moments, but that's what they released.

[@afsanaparvez6112]

Brilliant review I was really confused about the whole scar clan and the issue with lev had no idea he was transgender

[@robertpadua6096]

Incredible story

[@otureisio4348]

In this game I have never understood why Ellie cant forgive Joel like they were going to kill her at 14 at 14 u havnt even started life yet whether life is going shit or great thats part of life they didnt even tell her that she would need to be sacrificed for it if she knew at 14 that thats what was going to happen I bet she would of declined but aftewards she actually wanted to.

[@krasmasov6852]

She has survivor's guilt. She thinks dying for the vaccine is the only way to make it right that Riley died and she didn't.

[@moj929]

The last of two teach us that vengeance gains nothing

[@KingMoeJo]

Thank you Harry, this video’s explanation is remarkable. I still find this game as an emotional roller coaster. Naughty dog left me speechless, as I try to justify anything something comes up; as you said “was Joel a good guy?” If we say he is, there is something comes up and tells you “he was a bad guy”. I’m over the “thinking of what’s the background story”. I gave up, I don’t want anymore to know. I know it’s a game; it’s one of the finest game ever in a video games.

[@snakesghost7817]

Once I found out that Joel refused to sacrifice Ellie for a vaccine, I thought he was the bad guy. Also, once I found out Joel killed Abby's dad, I thought Joel getting killed by Abby was justified. I played Last of Us 1 8 years ago and forgot the plot, so the game was really exciting for me and I was asking a ton of questions after the major cutscenes. If you play this game cold (not reading about it, not remember the first one), then it's pretty damn interesting as you see the plot unfolding. However, some dude on this comment thread mentioned that the Firefly doctor could have botched the creating of the vaccine, leading Ellie to die unjustly. That is a good point, but it is a fan theory for sure. Who knows if the doctor was 100% certain how to make the vaccine.

[@TheNightman.]

It's fucking garbage, it was dumpstered for a good reason. Writers were too busy strapped to hypnotherapy for "the message" to be able to think coherently, that's why the story completely and utterly fails, there isn't one. There's no background story either, shit just "happens" because the writers want it to

[@KingMoeJo]

@@TheNightman. totally understandable, you got another point.

[@hagrid7297]

do you think an amputation in last of us universe could stop the infection to spread?

[@stephentremblay1465]

The worst part of that game was killing the dogs. I died like 10 times just trying to get around them without having to kill them.

[@monsterhanna6691]

I hate those moments, too. 😢💔

[@Gh0zT-777]

It's a fuckin game

[@ericksmellmyfart]

Loved this (subed)

[@N8tive-gamer]

Isaac for sure died you can hear it on the radio at the theatre and you can hear the outcome a lil bit if you still there-when you play as Abby and sneak up on tommy

[@Oriana_leung]

18:13 Whao.39:00 That's sad.

[@twvdm5745]

Yeey so excited to watch this video! One of my favorite games. Thnx!!

[@Cgmfuktheopps22]

Bro how are you only on 11 k you’re the best at explaining video games. You’re amazing

[@GamingHarryYT]

I appreciate that!

[@DSnow007]

Even though at the time we hated playing Abby, Looking back it was actually a great decision. This game is so dark and grounded, it really makes you look at the perspective from everyones view point. The setting of this world is a catastrophe and I think they knew we needed to feel the emotions of these raw humans to fully appreciate this story.

[@Lunabyes]

This. During my first playthrough I was so angry after Joel died I put the controller down and didn't pick it back up for MONTHS. I was too upset to be able to give the game a fair chance, so I waited. And I'm glad I did, because I genuinely love TLOU2. Yes, it was controversial. I was absolutely pissed about what Abby did, and I was sure I hated her guts and would never forgive her. But as I sat back and thought about it some more, I came to understand why Abby felt that way. Joel took everything from her. Her dad. Her friends. Her lover. Her chance at a good life. Her community. And eventually, her conscience. Joel may have got the ball rolling, but her need for revenge is what kept it going. I think TLOU2 is about forgiveness. Abby couldn't forgive Joel for what he did, and that lead to the deaths of all of her friends. Ellie couldn't forgive Abby for what she did, and that lead to the deaths of her friends, the loss of her girlfriend & her child, and eventually, her last connection to Joel. Her ability to play the guitar Joel gave her. In the end, I had no choice but to forgive Abby. Because if I didn't, the cycle of violence would continue.

[@DSnow007]

@@Lunabyes Well put. I agree completely. I think the story in the game & the show try’s to show us how people react when our past catches up to us and revenge overwhelms us. In the show the fungus came from humanity mistreating the environment. Joel is haunted by his daughters death & the lives of the people he had to kill so towards the end those emotions overwhelmed him & despite having the chance to save the world he wanted to redeem himself & save one of the few things left he cared about. In his mind he was getting his humanity back by saving Ellie. He knew if he lost her & let her die that way then he couldn’t live with himself. Sadly that part of his past came to haunt him in TLOU2. Abby’s past came back once she finally saw Joel. Then again after all the killing, it came back once more when Ellie found her. It’s a sad story about revenge, hard decisions, & living in a infected post apocalyptic world.

[@pineapplesplash9166]

After playing the game again with full focus I realized I had it all wrong… Abby never heard Ellie’s name. All she ever heard of her was that she was “the girl who’s immune.” She never got a name. And all she did know of Tommy was that he was Joel’s brother and that he was out in Jackson. Remember a firefly Refugee she spoke to gave her the information where to find Tommy which could lead to Joel. Abby and her group were camped out near the Jackson area. She knew Joel’s name because marlene tells Jerry she's going to go tell joel what they're planing to do to (in a flashback) and abby is standing right there in the room. When Tommy said "I'm Tommy and that's my BROTHER Joel” That was confirmation she found who she was looking for. Abby and her friends never saw Ellie or Joel at the hospital. When Ellie confronted Nora she realized that was the immune girl because she was breathing in spores. After speaking to Nora she knew they were former fireflies. That’s why When Abby confronted Ellie at the theater Ellie said “I’m the one you want, there’s no cure because of me” she knew this had something to do with the hospital situation but the cure is not why Abby killed Joel. Ellie doesn’t know that part. When you play as Ellie (with Dina by your side) Dina was tryna figure out who could’ve done this and why. Ellie’s response was “idk, Joel crossed a lot of people” Dina kept trying to figure it out. Ellie didn’t necessarily care why. Abby didn’t know why Joel did what he did. She didn’t care. Ellie and Abby are both filled with grief and hatred because they lost their father figure. Killing Joel didn’t bring joy to Abby or bring Jerry back or heal her pain. Ellie thought about the things Joel told her and realized killing Abby wasn’t gonna fix anything. My take away from the story now is that basically one had common sense and wasn’t being selfish. We saw Abby be the opposite of that. Owen wanted to just leave because Mel was pregnant but Abby went looking for Joel on her own anyway and almost died, she killed the guy she looking for even though he saved her, she put her friends in danger and Her comment to Ellie at the theater “You killed all my friends after we let you live." Like seriously, you really thought that people wouldn't come after you? Joel taught Ellie well. He lives on through the things he taught her.

[@brysebarnes6307]

it was said issac was dead theirs the radio transmissions goin back n forth once u get in the theater n discover ellies small hq area on the 2nd floor or 3rd floor

[@blondiegamezit2457]

It will always be the Clink to me Go Hawks!

[@The_king_397]

Great job man 🫡