The Legalisation of Steroids In MMA Is Happening

[@seft8101]

Belfort bout to have a career resurgence at 50

[@nikolajovanovic1850]

not the first time tho

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

yep shredded on Horse meat from mexico

[@langtryvlogme]

Left kick 🦵🏼 cemetery anyone? 💀 🍆

[@Sparky6string]

@@Ghostintheshell3551 Yup Ubereem is on his way back too.

[@The_Libationist]

Only difference I see is that everyone is allowed to be on steroids rather than punishing lower level athletes for taking them while protecting company darlings like Jones and McGregor.

[@mavenmaven4513]

Lower level athletes rarely get punished, steroids are expensive, good ones even more. When they are legal the stars will have a big unfair advantage against low level conpetitors, because it will become akin to weight classes just based on money, not on mass. And while you can track money pretty easily it is really hard to track peds

[@NOT-A-Monolith]

They aren't expensive ​@@mavenmaven4513

[@Poopopotamusgaming]

Jones was suspended for using them and McGregor used them for recovery, what are you on about

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I think you got it wrong. Lower level athletes get punished for NOT pissing hot. Their punishment? Opponents like Jones, McGregor, Lesnar, or Belford

[@thequinlanshow3326]

And Jones got suspended. Jones haters have his balls in their mouths at all times

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Why are steroids becoming so normalized as if they don't have side effects?

[@7ItalianStallion]

Because intelligence has gone down and cowardice has increased

[@Juel92]

Also the fact that if they get legal, people are gonna push them harder and harder, increasing their side effects. People aren't gonna stop pushing whatever advantage they can get, especially when you're in the premiere league of the world.

[@gwarnertx848]

What side effects are you most concerned about?

[@jacobcrowley1675]

It's also a big reason for men feeling bad because they can't look as good as the guy who is 3* older and roided out but lies about it .

[@iansmall6918]

Because it’s not 1980 anymore dude. It’s safer right now than it ever has in human history. You need to be smart with it and you’ll be safe. Now obviously in this argument you could ask “why is people being punched in the face for sport become so normalized even if it has side effects?” Because mma and boxing has become less safe over time due to science and steroids have become safer in the same amount of time.

[@duncanluciak5516]

Rogan with all of his medical knowledge at work.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Right 😂😂😂 rogan is such a tool

[@dlb4988]

The boys misrepresented Joe here. He was actually kind of against it (especially in mma). Their argument is that most professional athletes do it anyway so why not make it all above board

[@RyokuRamstone]

Dude needs to have Derek back again

[@wingerding]

What did he say that was wrong?

[@ByBilal]

They already have this it’s called the Olympics!! If you think that Olympic athletes are not on steroids , you’re very naive.

[@mccgyell]

Roid raged coked out Jones and Conor going all Eddie Hall on a bunch of flyweights ain’t that much to ask for

[@iansmall6918]

Roids just exemplify emotions you already have

[@mccgyell]

@@iansmall6918yup Mac and Jon aren’t exactly the calmest of people

[@gregjackson4117]

Throw Bob Saap and Victor Belfort in there too.

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

They all use

[@iansmall6918]

@@Youralwayswhining4367 no shit I love when people on KZbin just say the most obvious shit

[@rudebodega]

I have this mental image of the fighters doing their cage walks and right up there next to their name and hometown is the name of their doctor and what PEDs they’re on This is dumb

[@Hazztech]

Fine by me, baby.

[@kugashira1018]

@@Hazztech Same here. People acting like they don't want to see the edge of what is humanly possible are so full of shit lmao

[@sebastienquinn6552]

Tickets for the Olympics are definitely not free unfortunately

[@brutace9219]

Joe Rogan needs to tell Michael Bisping that it's safer for people to be on roids.

[@TheMightyMidget]

Roided people fighting roided people Vs Roided people fighting not roided people. Do you see a difference?

[@youngtonymontana0]

@@TheMightyMidget PEDs means faster movement and power. It doesn’t mean faster reaction time or more durable brain. Understand the difference?

[@TheMightyMidget]

@@youngtonymontana0 Except it does? You react and recover quicker on certain peds. But I’m not going to argue w someone tarring them all w the same brush because you clearly don’t know anything.

[@brutace9219]

@@TheMightyMidget roids improve power, speed, endurance, and muscle/bone recovery. The problem is you don't recover (for the most part) brain damage. So sure if they break a leg it'll recover faster, but it's at the cost of more irreparable brain damage. In other words; more cte, more eye disconnections, and more broken bones (that will recover faster but regardless).

[@JD10X]

Vitor was definitely safer in that fight than Bisping. If Bisping was on gear he might still have 2 eyes.

[@GinkgoPete]

Joe Rogan having the most smooth brained take imaginable. Some things never change.

[@gentlemandemon]

I absolutely understand the revovery argument, I do. And if athletes could be properly surpervized by doctors and there were reliable guardrails in place to prevent abuse and misuse, I'd be all for it. But that's not the case, and people are going to get get hurt, maybe killed. Whether it's the fighters themselves from the long term ill effects of abuse, their opponents from the enhanced strength, or a bystander (friend, family, or stranger) who happens to be around a fighter on a bad day.

[@tilted_axis9819]

How old was Kimbo when he died of a heart attack?

[@asianman4452]

Early 40s, like 42 from heart failure. Not good.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Like 40

[@user-mn9wc5ru5w]

Bro could barely afford to eat, let alone buy steroids. It was Newports, being damn near 300 lbs and genetics that took him out

[@nycitylifeandhistory]

google

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

like 72

[@vercingetorixavernian8978]

The concept of integrity and righteousness is really being tested in the world right now.

[@namessuckeh]

That actually began 4 years ago when everyone decided to stay home like a bunch of sheep

[@TJR-ju8dj]

"tHe cOnCePt of InTeGrItY AnD RiGHteOuSNeSs is ReALLy beiNg tEsTED iN thE worLd riGHT nOW." BLUD THAT SHIT BEEN GONE SINCE THE DAWN OF HUMANITY. STOP YAPPIN AND CRYING

[@j.menapace625]

Did you just mention "integrity and righteousness" in the same context with MMA? LMAO wow-- I wish I could go through life that blissfully ignorant.

[@Hazztech]

Piss off

[@ohgeezrick2019]

@@j.menapace625 No it was in context of the world and a conglomeration of all current events. This is just a small microcosm of the bigger issue is what he meant.

[@eastcoasttaffy74]

12:52 Bayliun nails it here. This is a just a bunch of soulless cretins thinking “hmm, selling steroids to kids might be the next big cash cow, how do we make that happen?”

[@mikeiso8963]

Better steroids than crack I guess

[@artyomtimoshenko2610]

⁠​⁠@@mikeiso8963are business guys being invited onto Joe Rogan Experience to tell kids to smoke crack?

[@johnbutler7567]

Yeah no one cares

[@eastcoasttaffy74]

@@johnbutler7567 you cared enough to reply 💀

[@ninjallama7046]

What steroid strengthens the brain stem and prevents the brain from sloshing around after getting hit by ubereem or head kicked by trt vitor? How could steroids make the fighters safer other than helping them recover from a injury

[@paparadeliko]

Bigger traps, neck, back muscles allow for more stability and shock absorbing

[@SolomonRasputin]

I feel like this is gonna normalize steroid use amongst younger people. I remember working a fitness store and this young kid came in pissed with a lump in his chest from something my coworker sold him

[@JD10X]

People worrying about side effects of PEDs while cheering for dudes getting KO'd.

[@Halfort57]

how is that relevant to the discussion??

[@JD10X]

@@Halfort57 because that's one of the arguments against PEDs. That they cause longterm health problems for the users. But getting hit in the head repeatedly is probably just as bad for you.

[@absurdist5134]

@@JD10X Ok. Are you saying ban MMA? Because we're not. So if you're not, and I'm not, why are you bringing it up? There's no point being stupid. Anyway, if you think this is done innocently without intent to make $$ off impressionable idiots, you're an idiot, honestly.

[@ThePatrickakes]

Wasted paying officials is kinda similar to how US colleges have hired more and more Administrators. It's bloat expenditure without an improvement in product.

[@dantev3236]

We already know what happens when steroids are somewhat normalized by the amount of professional wrestlers in the 70s, 80s, and 90s who didn't make it to fifty.

[@youzername]

That was also the dark ages of PED usage. There was almost no literature on what those compounds were, what they did, and how they worked. People were just taking anything and everything. It would be far more safe now.

[@StevenHall-ul4fo]

That had nothing to do with the rampant drugs or alcohol either, I'm sure

[@TTSrBronson]

​@@StevenHall-ul4foI'm sure your heart physically growing doesn't help with cocaine abuse

[@lakaja6565]

Powerlifting has already done this. The worry I have with combat sports is people literally dying.

[@I_AM_BAYTOR]

Just change the name to gladiator fights and we're golden.

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@I_AM_BAYTOR Spartans

[@I_AM_BAYTOR]

@@kameronjones7139 we don't need booty warriors in there too.

[@kameronjones7139]

@@I_AM_BAYTOR booooooo

[@jackdennis5683]

It’s almost like everyone’s forgotten already that Eddie fucking hall a 350lb strong man who’s definitely geared up to the gills had just flatlined a man less than half his weight in a “professional mma” fight

[@wickedgood3793]

Wait Hulk Hogans lawyer is helping open a steroid Olympics??? Ohhh this is going to be good. Thats a gift thats like getting a self cooking steak.

[@JimmySaint43]

Its gotta one of two ways: 1. Steroids legal in all sports across the board 2. Steroids remain illegal in all sports across the board. To create a "super league" that has one avenue of success, with almost zero chances for athletes to continue competing outside said league at the highest level, seems ridiculous and a no-win for athletes. We're gonna see nothing but B or C-tier athletes that couldnt hack it without PEDs, while the A-tier atheletes remain clean for a long career. Maybe im wrong, but i dont see this ending well, however the prospect of a league of super freaks mangling each other does sound fun 😂

[@kameronjones7139]

On top of it being more dangerous to be in those

[@krampus9983]

Brazil: you guys aren’t?

[@VikCain]

I want my favourite fighters to make it well into their 50's, I'm not looking forward to the heartbreak that is pro-wrestling.

[@ynotefil]

MMA Right On Point 💯 ILOVE These Early 6am Videos

[@БорисГеласимов]

We already have enhanced games. They are called Olympics... And any other professional league.

[@mavenmaven4513]

That is not true, erveryone was up in arms, when the soviet women started to grow beards and since than drug testing has become an integral part of the Olympics. They even do retrospective testing for up to ten years after the games and regularly strip convicted athletes of their medals. It is true, that there are always numerous cheats, but that doesn't mean we should give in to that

[@moody9442]

on my way up through pro hockey the roids were everywhere

[@irasac1]

​@@moody9442 how far did you get?

[@j.menapace625]

Indeed. It's why I stopped watching the Olympics-- on top of being pretty boring and stocked mostly with sports no one cares about, the athletes are all doped to the gills while hilariously claiming to have the strongest drug testing standards in the world.

[@БорисГеласимов]

@@moody9442 I compete in boxing and powerlifting on regional level. Some guys openly admit that they use peds and they don't get any repercussions

[@TheHeadown]

"We take steroids live" got me good, I spat my coffee all over my table 😂

[@Stormwern]

The sponsorship bit is hilarious. It'll be like Formula 1, every steroid manufacturer has a stable of athletes. And in the 5km run they have a pit stop where they can inject more steroids.

[@SizzlingMMA]

Folks, a giant chunk of fightets are already using and nobody really cares. Adesanya walked into UFC 253 with some insane Gyno and everyone just laughed it off.

[@duncanluciak5516]

He got pilloried.

[@PcCAvioN]

nah bro it was smoking weed, duh

[@gibgibbo5738]

Costa clearly roids up so it was equal adesanya just better

[@Inaluogh]

@@gibgibbo5738 at least Costa isn't extremely dishonest. He literally runs the secret juice joke himself even if nobody as says it anymore.

[@trevorsmith5907]

Did we forget what happened in the Vitor v Bisping fight?

[@jackshryock5602]

I feel like it’s going to be a lot of world class dudes who are past their primes going back to their primes just juiced to the gills

[@CoolToMe_]

I swear I can fold that desk in half

[@nickklassen2791]

Athletes won’t be representing countries at the enhanced games. They’re just participants in the event.

[@SRJITMOLFM]

The day steroids get legalized on Pro MMA is the day I tune out of this circus.

[@j.menapace625]

No, it isn't-- it's the day you'll start watching more than ever.

[@justina7794]

@j.menapace625 youre on that good good

[@j.menapace625]

@@justina7794 Steroids are everywhere in professional sports and MMA is certainly no exception. Pretending to be so morally superior as to be above that kind of nonsense is just lying to yourself and to everyone around you.

[@mathmusicstructure]

MMA has gone from "which martial art is best?" to "who can afford the best drugs?"

[@j.menapace625]

So it's become like every other professional sport? I agree.

[@SnailHatan]

Uhhh, no. Do you know literally nothing about the entire history of MMA?

[@jacobtaylor3712]

Juiced up on Tren, Deca, test and on amphetamines, the basic stack

[@mossykeehan]

From seeing what happened when WWE was filled with steroids can we not already see what will happen?

[@govegan92]

How's WWE comparable to UFC when it comes to steroid use?

[@namessuckeh]

​@@govegan92because everyone's on it and lying about it

[@br-jj6re]

@@govegan92guys dropping dead at 28 consistently for about 8 years

[@JD10X]

Those dudes abused every drug.

[@Acratophorus]

@@govegan92 There are countless pro wrestlers from the 80s, 90s and even early 2000s who died prematurely because of substance abuse. And the ones who are still alive look 20 years older than they are. There are some really fucked up stories, and roids are for sure one of the main reasons.

[@houssedecouette4056]

I am sorry but from the get go this video tries to says that the highest level people are clean , that's taking us for fouls , everybody's on PEDs

[@emulation2369]

Brazil be like -"who cares, lol 😂"

[@robswystun2766]

My favourite part is when the dude is talking about how underpaid Olympic athletes are and the UFC's biggest poster boy is sitting there agreeing with him as he drowns in irony.

[@j.menapace625]

How is it ironic?

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@j.menapace625 You can also argue that the UFC pays fighters a low percentage of their earnings.

[@j.menapace625]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD It's entirely possible for a UFC guy to think that Olympic athletes get an even shittier deal than UFC fighters do. Saying that it's "ironic" for the "UFC's biggest poster boy" to be saying that implies that he's too stupid to know that he and his colleagues are being underpaid, which is EXTREMELY condescending.

[@moistgrip]

First thing I do when I open KZbin is check if MMA ON POINT dropped a new video 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@Lukerogers0121]

Tom running with the steroid joke was hilarious.

[@joshm1636]

The problem with legalising steroids for something like combat sports is that its such an unknown effect. As you guys said, people taking steroids are looking for an unfair advantage which is somewhat removed when everyone's on steroids. My understanding is that performance enhancement steroids aid recovery, strength and endurance, but in a combat situation, strength and endurance don't count for much when one fighter is just way more skilled. I'm an Australian planning on being in Brisbane for the 2032 Olympics, and I've been saying for months that id absolutely love a Juiced Olympics, especially if they call it the OlympX like I have. 🤞 If they do, imho it should really concentrate more on the individual sports and have an aim at seeing just how much they can eclipse commonwealth/olympic/world records. And by that time, I'd expect prosthetics and other areas of technology based human augmentation (yes, i like the Deus Ex series, so what 😂) so that'd be awesome too. But yeah, if you come at this from a "lets see what the human body is REALLY capable of" perspective, what juiced athletes are actually competing against are the records.

[@GengoSenmon]

It's a great idea. Everyone needs to get off their moral high horses. We already found out from baseball 30 years ago that rich athletes pay chemists tons of 💰for proprietary anabolics formulas with compounds that are not tested for. The only way to make it a genuinely level playing field is to allow anabolics.

[@BatCaveOz]

1) Tickets to the Olympics aren't free. The cheapest tickets in Paris are 24 Euros, most tickets are hundreds of Euros. 2) The IOC has allowed processional athletes to compete since 1992 (famously, USA's basketball "Dream Team").

[@soarinpenguinlive6372]

3) The Olympics does not care about steroids. There are countries in the Olympic allowed to compete that have been proven to be doping kids. There are statemnt from people who trained for the Olympics that they were given steroids at 16. If the Olympics won't ban a country forever with proven child doping they don't care (Do not support the Olympics it is so corrupt)

[@P.Convenience]

Yeah I remember a time when NHL players couldn't compete in Olympic hockey but that all changed. And you're right, tickets DEFINITELY aren't free. My folks when to the Vancouver ones a few years back and paid a fair bit, if memory serves

[@cheldivision]

Definitely not free, tickets to Sydney 2000 games were quite expensive

[@Night-Jester]

Luke had me laughing so hard at the end.

[@seamussynnott921]

It's all fun and games until someone get's Michael Bispinged again

[@carpeimodiem]

Dana literally canned USADA for Conor. Otherwise they know he'll never pass another drug test again for the rest of his life lol

[@aisforannihilation1662]

They replaced usada with another drug testing agency that does most major sports & McGregor has been tested more than anyone else this yr.

[@ricddjdb1219]

@@aisforannihilation1662the company they replaced them with tests much less than Usada and Vada. They also have much lighter rules. I saw a post where drug testing in the sport has gone down 42 percent.

[@realtalk2050]

It’s individual not by country, legitimately one of the first things mentioned in the podcast, just have someone listen to it and give y’all bullet points so you can at least know everything. I mean y’all really didn’t know anything besides those clips, cmon guys, I expect y’all to be better than this

[@Corvo131]

Sergei Pavlovich vs the top 3 bantamweights (juiced to the bone) !! Come on Dana, make it happen, give the people what they want !

[@brianstickel6811]

Has this channel just become a podcast? I like it

[@BreakneckTV]

Olympics are not free to attend though that would be sick. Some of the popular events can have extremely expensive tickets.

[@anthonybrownbrown8602]

you guys didn’t really to much research into Olympian pay because most of what you guys said was wrong

[@stuartCcash]

One of my daughters is an endcronologist, she is doing research into the effects of steriod use on metabolic activity and some of the data she has sourced suggests that saying 6.3% of men have taken steroids is an underestimate. It is especially bad amongst younger men due to the pressure to have a good body for social media.

[@Shawn-im4pm]

Its worse in boxing but we should have a zero pay punishment if someone is popped for roids.

[@hypnoticskull6342]

No

[@namessuckeh]

We? Sounds like an admission of guilt to me

[@Halfort57]

​@@hypnoticskull6342Yes they should

[@Danez1342]

@@hypnoticskull6342yes, canelo has popped multiple times, Chavez jr has popped, Tyson fury has popped, Holyfield, Roy Jones, Amir khan, Shane Mosley, and just recently Ryan Garcia has popped and they took away his entire purse

[@TheSickGman09]

If you sign an agreement saying you won't take them and you do you at the very least deserve a fine.

[@jayb.6685]

My issue is what happens to fighters on steriods with losing streaks and they get cut, it would be hard for them just to jump to another fighting league.

[@ByronGiant]

I would rather have a well thought out editorial video that this random round table discussion of opinions.

[@ricddjdb1219]

They’ve already done that before can’t remember the name but it’s on the channel

[@MrTooEarnestOnline]

I really hope they get back to regulating it heavier. I’m an MMA guy that looks like he’s on steroids (I’m not) but I’ve been getting those strange looks since my senior year in Highschool. I want to go to the highest levels of MMA naturally to prove that you can. I really think genetics and prepubescent intense exercise makes a world of difference. Happy you guys are bringing this issue up but I always get a little pit in my stomach when steroids are discussed.

[@herethere5637]

so basically, if you took steroids you'd take over the world. People who have good natural genetics have an even bigger incentive to take drugs, because you'd just eat everyone alive.

[@jameslangley2196]

It’s hiding in plain sight, an open secret.

[@AsiaBlueDragon5321]

I would agree that athletes can take PEDs that are working to recover from big injuries like broken bones, torn ligaments, and so on. Peptides are the heat nowadays. Imagine, Cody Garbrandt can recover 100% from his torn shoulder and compete. Anderson Silva, Tony Ferguson. All these big names in combat sports, fully recovered from their injuries and can compete back just like nothing ever happened. Prime Overeem, or Ubereem competing in Heavyweight against Prime Brock Lesnar. Rematch. Imagine the PPV money 💰💰💰. Ngannou's a natural right? Imagine him, on Overeem's "supplements". TRT Vitor, smashing through the Middleweight division.

[@mikebrown3881]

It's funny listening to 4 guys who couldn't run 100m if a Tiger was chasing them talk about topics like this. They misinterpret almost everything related to what they are discussing. Still makes for an entertaining KZbin video so I guess that's a W.

[@ChaserX90]

my grandad had this idea about 10 years ago, and called it the "wind 'em up and watch 'em go olympics"

[@donaldnewell4868]

How much are tickets to the Paris Olympics? This all depends on which event and how many tickets you wish to purchase. Single ticket prices for the games range from $40 (€24) to more than $1500 (€950). Tickets for the Opening and Closing Ceremonies start at $150 (or €90). More than one million tickets will be available for $40, with nearly 50 per cent of tickets reserved for the general public priced at less than or around $82 (€50). Tickets for medal events at the games cost less than or around $165 (€100).

[@jimmerthan4176]

They keep talking about the athletes moving on and going somewhere else after their stint in the steriod league but the whole goal of the league is to pay the athletes enough to where they don't have to leave the sport. Floyd Mayweather continued on after the Olympics to make money. If the Olympics paid him enough money every year you know what, he'd box in the Olympics every year.

[@AltruisticMystic]

I don't think he could pull it off. Mosty due to the fact that Olympics are organized every four years.

[@Sparky6string]

We've seen what's coming then back in the Pride FC days.

[@s0mbres]

Lets fucking go. The return of Ubereem.

[@lukeg3714]

Just going to add this to my “wtf has been going on the last 5 years” bingo card. 😂

[@LarsonPetty]

SNL predicted this in 1988 with a skit titled The All-Drug Olympics.

[@Cyrenaika98]

Nice now nobody has to run from fighting in the States

[@Deltaaaaaaaaa]

Except a bunch of the Russians and Khamzat Chimaev.

[@thispandaispurple]

I think the rate is a lot higher then 6%. I work in the construction industry and almost5 half the people I meet have or are on some form of steroids. It makes sense if you work a physical labor job, it makes the job a lot easier. This also isn't the 80s and steroids have come a long way. More importantly we now properly understand remission and old tropes of a shrinking penis or losing your ability to produce testosterone normally are things of the past.

[@dlb4988]

Argument about people not wanting to join the league is kind of moot if you look at bodybuilding. You’ve got natural and enhanced federations and one is a helluva lot more popular but people that want to remain natural still complete in the natural comps

[@danmcdonald8736]

One of the deux ex games had event posters for jacked up cyborgs beating the snot out of each other. I think we're heading there, and I'll watch the shit out of that.

[@scorpionxiiclips]

The issue is that some fighters will steroids to get ahead, so other fighters follow to keep up, then some fighters use even more steroids to get ahead again, then the other fighters follow again, and this keeps going and going until it becomes dangerous.

[@MrSkindianabones]

In the uk there’s organised running races where you get booze every couple miles. Everyone’s pished by the end.

[@wesj1064]

These jokers truly can't intelligently discuss this topic without giggling and strawmanning the case for this. Fact is, everyone's already taking it, so time to be upfront and let the best be the truly best they can be.

[@msanders777]

5:00 think he meant IOC officials lining their pockets

[@Evs78101]

I mean…. 90 percent of press events are fighters accusing other fighters of taking steroids…

[@Hachiigen_]

bring on the Enhanced Games, lets see what humans are REALLY capable of

[@ericwalsh2954]

It's gonna take alot of wind out of the Olympic sails when a guy one foot hops over 50 feet

[@AngloCelt88]

Just a matter of time before the discussion of steroids being okay in highschool sports. Before anyone says that is a ridiculous thought, just remember that a couple of years ago the idea of tampons in boy's bathrooms would have never been uttered anywhere in the world.

[@zamboanganbeats]

A few years ago I had a muay thai fight against twins, the smaller one did the weigh in and the bigger one did the fight. All this happened after I had to cut weight and get drained of blood with all the testing.

[@EdwardoTropicano]

Who doesn’t want to see someone run the 100m in 3.24 second and do a 18m high jump! Sign me up for that !

[@Khedran]

No need. Just chicken and rice. And sometimes broccoli

[@AcidPhos69]

Horse beef.

[@toby099]

All because USADA wouldn’t let Dana make an exception for his little pet McGregor

[@Billybobble1]

I remember Ben Johnson winning the gold 100m sprint at the 1988 Seoul Olympics and thinking (to this day) that was one of the most incredible things I have seen. He smoked Carl Lewis like he was a high school sprinter. Sure it was right and fair he was stripped of the medal, but it always made me think, what if? The fear of such a league/enablement, is Chris Benoit.

[@MoshHewson]

Hot take guess The gamble might be that they will have all these athletes juiced to the gills, and then they perform as good as or WORSE than the the "clean" athletes, and that will create a whole heap of "hey wait, why are the openly drug taking athletes not catchig up, performing as good as or better than the clean athletes?" Followed with a distrust campaign for other sport codes to slowly tear up the market by visually being the only "honest" league

[@graysoncoleman8642]

Gable got released he didn’t choose to leave to go to the NFL, the WWE saw nothing in him as an entertainer

[@pelago_]

The best point here is that if a big guy got a knockout you’d look and think “of course he did that, he’s on steroids”. Even if it looks super impressive, there’s no sense of achievement.

[@saiyanninjawarriorz]

We're about to enter a new era😂

[@owenschwinn226]

As a 15 year old aspiring mma fighter, i don’t want to have to take steroids just to be able to compete with others in my weight class and sacrifice all the side effects that come with taking gear. This idea of roided up mma is pretty damn scary to me.

[@MalcolmTurnerKing]

Oh well. Be Good or Be Good At It. Steroids are a part of the sport. Those Hall of Famers who were fighting before you were even born were juiced to the GILLS and laid the foundation of the sport.

[@SnailHatan]

Uh, so don’t fight in a roid league. Simple as.

[@owenschwinn226]

@@SnailHatan yea but with the ufc USADA partnership ending it looks like even the ufc could have roids eventually

[@OliverOils]

you're already going in there to get hit multiple times in the head, body and legs anyway but yeah it's your choice too if you don't like the side effects

[@owenschwinn226]

@@OliverOils yea but y add shrinked up balls and shit into the mix with roids

[@anthonycruz5569]

TRT helicopter kicks were a sight to be seen

[@SoSyNiKaL]

Guys - you can have a PhD and be a doctor but not a medical doctor. Also Olympics tickets are scaled up, I think London 2012 lowest were around £20, increasing significantly for better seats for high demand events (athletics finals sessions, swimming finals, cycling finals) - just a heads up.

[@buildorburn]

this will be a str8 path to the wwe

[@deadlyicecream1]

Damn my IQ just decresed by 10 ponits listening to these guys.

[@AJproductionsful]

4 dudes who should all be on trt! Lol mma on soy

[@CaptainClark23]

@@AJproductionsfulthey’re not that dumb, lol.

[@jeramyhudnall9227]

Dude find a different podcast MMA on Point is awesome if your not a fan what are you doing here?

[@AJproductionsful]

@@CaptainClark23 video games will make you dumb

[@ippo4502]

It's hilarious people think that fighters on steroids want to fight other people on steroids. The whole point is the unfair advantage.

[@asimpson164]

Those who are ignorant of performance enhancing drugs should not be the ones making policy about them. Even just taking anabolic steroids as a talking point, each one is slightly different. They are pharmaceutical products and can't be identical to each other. Beef hormones are cheap but toxic to your system. You never take just one PED, unless you're poor or ignorant, you run a stack (multiple PEDs) for a cycle (a specific duration of time in weeks). Some of this and some of that plus a little of this that and the other to counter the side effects of your main exogenous substances. Having fighters on gear without regulations ia going to get them killed, either in a cage or in their forties from self abuse. Quicker recovery means more strikes to the head per year and harder strikes from the opponent. Keep MMA gear free.

[@davida2733]

They overlooked that everyone in MMA is already on steroids except Nick Diaz.

[@mikealexander1859]

I fully support this idea. I will pay to watch. Go for it.

[@fanboy7718]

Letsss goo I wanna see Jack Hanma in Real-Life