The Legalisation of Steroids In MMA Is Happening

[@seft8101]

Belfort bout to have a career resurgence at 50

[@nikolajovanovic1850]

not the first time tho

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

yep shredded on Horse meat from mexico

[@langtryvlogme]

Left kick 🦵🏼 cemetery anyone? 💀 🍆

[@Sparky6string]

@@Ghostintheshell3551 Yup Ubereem is on his way back too.

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Why are steroids becoming so normalized as if they don't have side effects?

[@7ItalianStallion]

Because intelligence has gone down and cowardice has increased

[@Juel92]

Also the fact that if they get legal, people are gonna push them harder and harder, increasing their side effects. People aren't gonna stop pushing whatever advantage they can get, especially when you're in the premiere league of the world.

[@gwarnertx848]

What side effects are you most concerned about?

[@jacobcrowley1675]

It's also a big reason for men feeling bad because they can't look as good as the guy who is 3* older and roided out but lies about it .

[@iansmall6918]

Because it’s not 1980 anymore dude. It’s safer right now than it ever has in human history. You need to be smart with it and you’ll be safe. Now obviously in this argument you could ask “why is people being punched in the face for sport become so normalized even if it has side effects?” Because mma and boxing has become less safe over time due to science and steroids have become safer in the same amount of time.

[@The_Libationist]

Only difference I see is that everyone is allowed to be on steroids rather than punishing lower level athletes for taking them while protecting company darlings like Jones and McGregor.

[@mavenmaven4513]

Lower level athletes rarely get punished, steroids are expensive, good ones even more. When they are legal the stars will have a big unfair advantage against low level conpetitors, because it will become akin to weight classes just based on money, not on mass. And while you can track money pretty easily it is really hard to track peds

[@NOT-A-Monolith]

They aren't expensive ​@@mavenmaven4513

[@Poopopotamusgaming]

Jones was suspended for using them and McGregor used them for recovery, what are you on about

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

I think you got it wrong. Lower level athletes get punished for NOT pissing hot. Their punishment? Opponents like Jones, McGregor, Lesnar, or Belford

[@thequinlanshow3326]

And Jones got suspended. Jones haters have his balls in their mouths at all times

[@duncanluciak5516]

Rogan with all of his medical knowledge at work.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Right 😂😂😂 rogan is such a tool

[@dlb4988]

The boys misrepresented Joe here. He was actually kind of against it (especially in mma). Their argument is that most professional athletes do it anyway so why not make it all above board

[@RyokuRamstone]

Dude needs to have Derek back again

[@wingerding]

What did he say that was wrong?

[@ByBilal]

They already have this it’s called the Olympics!! If you think that Olympic athletes are not on steroids , you’re very naive.

[@mccgyell]

Roid raged coked out Jones and Conor going all Eddie Hall on a bunch of flyweights ain’t that much to ask for

[@iansmall6918]

Roids just exemplify emotions you already have

[@mccgyell]

@@iansmall6918yup Mac and Jon aren’t exactly the calmest of people

[@gregjackson4117]

Throw Bob Saap and Victor Belfort in there too.

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

They all use

[@iansmall6918]

@@Youralwayswhining4367 no shit I love when people on KZbin just say the most obvious shit

[@sebastienquinn6552]

Tickets for the Olympics are definitely not free unfortunately

[@brutace9219]

Joe Rogan needs to tell Michael Bisping that it's safer for people to be on roids.

[@TheMightyMidget]

Roided people fighting roided people Vs Roided people fighting not roided people. Do you see a difference?

[@youngtonymontana0]

@@TheMightyMidget PEDs means faster movement and power. It doesn’t mean faster reaction time or more durable brain. Understand the difference?

[@TheMightyMidget]

@@youngtonymontana0 Except it does? You react and recover quicker on certain peds. But I’m not going to argue w someone tarring them all w the same brush because you clearly don’t know anything.

[@brutace9219]

@@TheMightyMidget roids improve power, speed, endurance, and muscle/bone recovery. The problem is you don't recover (for the most part) brain damage. So sure if they break a leg it'll recover faster, but it's at the cost of more irreparable brain damage. In other words; more cte, more eye disconnections, and more broken bones (that will recover faster but regardless).

[@JD10X]

Vitor was definitely safer in that fight than Bisping. If Bisping was on gear he might still have 2 eyes.

[@rudebodega]

I have this mental image of the fighters doing their cage walks and right up there next to their name and hometown is the name of their doctor and what PEDs they’re on This is dumb

[@Hazztech]

Fine by me, baby.

[@kugashira1018]

@@Hazztech Same here. People acting like they don't want to see the edge of what is humanly possible are so full of shit lmao

[@eastcoasttaffy74]

12:52 Bayliun nails it here. This is a just a bunch of soulless cretins thinking “hmm, selling steroids to kids might be the next big cash cow, how do we make that happen?”

[@mikeiso8963]

Better steroids than crack I guess

[@artyomtimoshenko2610]

⁠​⁠@@mikeiso8963are business guys being invited onto Joe Rogan Experience to tell kids to smoke crack?

[@johnbutler7567]

Yeah no one cares

[@eastcoasttaffy74]

@@johnbutler7567 you cared enough to reply 💀

[@vercingetorixavernian8978]

The concept of integrity and righteousness is really being tested in the world right now.

[@namessuckeh]

That actually began 4 years ago when everyone decided to stay home like a bunch of sheep

[@TJR-ju8dj]

"tHe cOnCePt of InTeGrItY AnD RiGHteOuSNeSs is ReALLy beiNg tEsTED iN thE worLd riGHT nOW." BLUD THAT SHIT BEEN GONE SINCE THE DAWN OF HUMANITY. STOP YAPPIN AND CRYING

[@j.menapace625]

Did you just mention "integrity and righteousness" in the same context with MMA? LMAO wow-- I wish I could go through life that blissfully ignorant.

[@Hazztech]

Piss off

[@ohgeezrick2019]

@@j.menapace625 No it was in context of the world and a conglomeration of all current events. This is just a small microcosm of the bigger issue is what he meant.

[@GinkgoPete]

Joe Rogan having the most smooth brained take imaginable. Some things never change.

[@gentlemandemon]

I absolutely understand the revovery argument, I do. And if athletes could be properly surpervized by doctors and there were reliable guardrails in place to prevent abuse and misuse, I'd be all for it. But that's not the case, and people are going to get get hurt, maybe killed. Whether it's the fighters themselves from the long term ill effects of abuse, their opponents from the enhanced strength, or a bystander (friend, family, or stranger) who happens to be around a fighter on a bad day.

[@tilted_axis9819]

How old was Kimbo when he died of a heart attack?

[@asianman4452]

Early 40s, like 42 from heart failure. Not good.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Like 40

[@user-mn9wc5ru5w]

Bro could barely afford to eat, let alone buy steroids. It was Newports, being damn near 300 lbs and genetics that took him out

[@nycitylifeandhistory]

google

[@Ghostintheshell3551]

like 72

[@jackdennis5683]

It’s almost like everyone’s forgotten already that Eddie fucking hall a 350lb strong man who’s definitely geared up to the gills had just flatlined a man less than half his weight in a “professional mma” fight

[@ninjallama7046]

What steroid strengthens the brain stem and prevents the brain from sloshing around after getting hit by ubereem or head kicked by trt vitor? How could steroids make the fighters safer other than helping them recover from a injury

[@paparadeliko]

Bigger traps, neck, back muscles allow for more stability and shock absorbing

[@JD10X]

People worrying about side effects of PEDs while cheering for dudes getting KO'd.

[@Halfort57]

how is that relevant to the discussion??

[@JD10X]

@@Halfort57 because that's one of the arguments against PEDs. That they cause longterm health problems for the users. But getting hit in the head repeatedly is probably just as bad for you.

[@absurdist5134]

@@JD10X Ok. Are you saying ban MMA? Because we're not. So if you're not, and I'm not, why are you bringing it up? There's no point being stupid. Anyway, if you think this is done innocently without intent to make $$ off impressionable idiots, you're an idiot, honestly.

[@dantev3236]

We already know what happens when steroids are somewhat normalized by the amount of professional wrestlers in the 70s, 80s, and 90s who didn't make it to fifty.

[@youzername]

That was also the dark ages of PED usage. There was almost no literature on what those compounds were, what they did, and how they worked. People were just taking anything and everything. It would be far more safe now.

[@StevenHall-ul4fo]

That had nothing to do with the rampant drugs or alcohol either, I'm sure

[@TTSrBronson]

​@@StevenHall-ul4foI'm sure your heart physically growing doesn't help with cocaine abuse

[@SolomonRasputin]

I feel like this is gonna normalize steroid use amongst younger people. I remember working a fitness store and this young kid came in pissed with a lump in his chest from something my coworker sold him

[@lakaja6565]

Powerlifting has already done this. The worry I have with combat sports is people literally dying.

[@I_AM_BAYTOR]

Just change the name to gladiator fights and we're golden.

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@I_AM_BAYTOR Spartans

[@I_AM_BAYTOR]

@@kameronjones7139 we don't need booty warriors in there too.

[@kameronjones7139]

@@I_AM_BAYTOR booooooo

[@wickedgood3793]

Wait Hulk Hogans lawyer is helping open a steroid Olympics??? Ohhh this is going to be good. Thats a gift thats like getting a self cooking steak.

[@ThePatrickakes]

Wasted paying officials is kinda similar to how US colleges have hired more and more Administrators. It's bloat expenditure without an improvement in product.

[@SizzlingMMA]

Folks, a giant chunk of fightets are already using and nobody really cares. Adesanya walked into UFC 253 with some insane Gyno and everyone just laughed it off.

[@duncanluciak5516]

He got pilloried.

[@PcCAvioN]

nah bro it was smoking weed, duh

[@gibgibbo5738]

Costa clearly roids up so it was equal adesanya just better

[@Inaluogh]

@@gibgibbo5738 at least Costa isn't extremely dishonest. He literally runs the secret juice joke himself even if nobody as says it anymore.

[@krampus9983]

Brazil: you guys aren’t?

[@БорисГеласимов]

We already have enhanced games. They are called Olympics... And any other professional league.

[@mavenmaven4513]

That is not true, erveryone was up in arms, when the soviet women started to grow beards and since than drug testing has become an integral part of the Olympics. They even do retrospective testing for up to ten years after the games and regularly strip convicted athletes of their medals. It is true, that there are always numerous cheats, but that doesn't mean we should give in to that

[@moody9442]

on my way up through pro hockey the roids were everywhere

[@irasac1]

​@@moody9442 how far did you get?

[@j.menapace625]

Indeed. It's why I stopped watching the Olympics-- on top of being pretty boring and stocked mostly with sports no one cares about, the athletes are all doped to the gills while hilariously claiming to have the strongest drug testing standards in the world.

[@БорисГеласимов]

@@moody9442 I compete in boxing and powerlifting on regional level. Some guys openly admit that they use peds and they don't get any repercussions

[@VikCain]

I want my favourite fighters to make it well into their 50's, I'm not looking forward to the heartbreak that is pro-wrestling.

[@JimmySaint43]

Its gotta one of two ways: 1. Steroids legal in all sports across the board 2. Steroids remain illegal in all sports across the board. To create a "super league" that has one avenue of success, with almost zero chances for athletes to continue competing outside said league at the highest level, seems ridiculous and a no-win for athletes. We're gonna see nothing but B or C-tier athletes that couldnt hack it without PEDs, while the A-tier atheletes remain clean for a long career. Maybe im wrong, but i dont see this ending well, however the prospect of a league of super freaks mangling each other does sound fun 😂

[@kameronjones7139]

On top of it being more dangerous to be in those

[@TheHeadown]

"We take steroids live" got me good, I spat my coffee all over my table 😂

[@Stormwern]

The sponsorship bit is hilarious. It'll be like Formula 1, every steroid manufacturer has a stable of athletes. And in the 5km run they have a pit stop where they can inject more steroids.

[@SRJITMOLFM]

The day steroids get legalized on Pro MMA is the day I tune out of this circus.

[@j.menapace625]

No, it isn't-- it's the day you'll start watching more than ever.

[@justina7794]

@j.menapace625 youre on that good good

[@j.menapace625]

@@justina7794 Steroids are everywhere in professional sports and MMA is certainly no exception. Pretending to be so morally superior as to be above that kind of nonsense is just lying to yourself and to everyone around you.

[@houssedecouette4056]

I am sorry but from the get go this video tries to says that the highest level people are clean , that's taking us for fouls , everybody's on PEDs

[@robswystun2766]

My favourite part is when the dude is talking about how underpaid Olympic athletes are and the UFC's biggest poster boy is sitting there agreeing with him as he drowns in irony.

[@j.menapace625]

How is it ironic?

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

​@@j.menapace625 You can also argue that the UFC pays fighters a low percentage of their earnings.

[@j.menapace625]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD It's entirely possible for a UFC guy to think that Olympic athletes get an even shittier deal than UFC fighters do. Saying that it's "ironic" for the "UFC's biggest poster boy" to be saying that implies that he's too stupid to know that he and his colleagues are being underpaid, which is EXTREMELY condescending.

[@jackshryock5602]

I feel like it’s going to be a lot of world class dudes who are past their primes going back to their primes just juiced to the gills

[@realtalk2050]

It’s individual not by country, legitimately one of the first things mentioned in the podcast, just have someone listen to it and give y’all bullet points so you can at least know everything. I mean y’all really didn’t know anything besides those clips, cmon guys, I expect y’all to be better than this

[@nickklassen2791]

Athletes won’t be representing countries at the enhanced games. They’re just participants in the event.

[@mossykeehan]

From seeing what happened when WWE was filled with steroids can we not already see what will happen?

[@govegan92]

How's WWE comparable to UFC when it comes to steroid use?

[@namessuckeh]

​@@govegan92because everyone's on it and lying about it

[@br-jj6re]

@@govegan92guys dropping dead at 28 consistently for about 8 years

[@JD10X]

Those dudes abused every drug.

[@Acratophorus]

@@govegan92 There are countless pro wrestlers from the 80s, 90s and even early 2000s who died prematurely because of substance abuse. And the ones who are still alive look 20 years older than they are. There are some really fucked up stories, and roids are for sure one of the main reasons.

[@mathmusicstructure]

MMA has gone from "which martial art is best?" to "who can afford the best drugs?"

[@j.menapace625]

So it's become like every other professional sport? I agree.

[@SnailHatan]

Uhhh, no. Do you know literally nothing about the entire history of MMA?

[@jacobtaylor3712]

Juiced up on Tren, Deca, test and on amphetamines, the basic stack

[@BatCaveOz]

1) Tickets to the Olympics aren't free. The cheapest tickets in Paris are 24 Euros, most tickets are hundreds of Euros. 2) The IOC has allowed processional athletes to compete since 1992 (famously, USA's basketball "Dream Team").

[@P.Convenience]

Yeah I remember a time when NHL players couldn't compete in Olympic hockey but that all changed. And you're right, tickets DEFINITELY aren't free. My folks when to the Vancouver ones a few years back and paid a fair bit, if memory serves

[@cheldivision]

Definitely not free, tickets to Sydney 2000 games were quite expensive

[@cole91402]

Once again you guys missed the mark. Without Tommy the vids are near unwatchable, missed the whole point of the enhanced folks coming on Joes pod, Olympics are already clearly dirty and have been since the beginning. The enhanced guys are just trying to put more modern science and research behind steroids

[@ynotefil]

MMA Right On Point 💯 ILOVE These Early 6am Videos

[@trevorsmith5907]

Did we forget what happened in the Vitor v Bisping fight?

[@CoolToMe_]

I swear I can fold that desk in half

[@Classic_Killr]

It really seems like none of them actually listened to the podcast with the Enhanced Games. Pretty much every question they had was answered by the enhanced games guys in the pod. I love this channel but this seemed like a lazy video.

[@carpeimodiem]

Dana literally canned USADA for Conor. Otherwise they know he'll never pass another drug test again for the rest of his life lol

[@aisforannihilation1662]

They replaced usada with another drug testing agency that does most major sports & McGregor has been tested more than anyone else this yr.

[@ricddjdb1219]

@@aisforannihilation1662the company they replaced them with tests much less than Usada and Vada. They also have much lighter rules. I saw a post where drug testing in the sport has gone down 42 percent.

[@Shawn-im4pm]

Its worse in boxing but we should have a zero pay punishment if someone is popped for roids.

[@hypnoticskull6342]

No

[@namessuckeh]

We? Sounds like an admission of guilt to me

[@Halfort57]

​@@hypnoticskull6342Yes they should

[@Danez1342]

@@hypnoticskull6342yes, canelo has popped multiple times, Chavez jr has popped, Tyson fury has popped, Holyfield, Roy Jones, Amir khan, Shane Mosley, and just recently Ryan Garcia has popped and they took away his entire purse

[@TheSickGman09]

If you sign an agreement saying you won't take them and you do you at the very least deserve a fine.

[@deadlyicecream1]

Damn my IQ just decresed by 10 ponits listening to these guys.

[@AJproductionsful]

4 dudes who should all be on trt! Lol mma on soy

[@CaptainClark23]

@@AJproductionsfulthey’re not that dumb, lol.

[@jeramyhudnall9227]

Dude find a different podcast MMA on Point is awesome if your not a fan what are you doing here?

[@AJproductionsful]

@@CaptainClark23 video games will make you dumb

[@dlb4988]

Argument about people not wanting to join the league is kind of moot if you look at bodybuilding. You’ve got natural and enhanced federations and one is a helluva lot more popular but people that want to remain natural still complete in the natural comps

[@emulation2369]

Brazil be like -"who cares, lol 😂"

[@mikebrown3881]

It's funny listening to 4 guys who couldn't run 100m if a Tiger was chasing them talk about topics like this. They misinterpret almost everything related to what they are discussing. Still makes for an entertaining KZbin video so I guess that's a W.

[@seamussynnott921]

It's all fun and games until someone get's Michael Bispinged again

[@jimmerthan4176]

They keep talking about the athletes moving on and going somewhere else after their stint in the steriod league but the whole goal of the league is to pay the athletes enough to where they don't have to leave the sport. Floyd Mayweather continued on after the Olympics to make money. If the Olympics paid him enough money every year you know what, he'd box in the Olympics every year.

[@AltruisticMystic]

I don't think he could pull it off. Mosty due to the fact that Olympics are organized every four years.

[@anthonybrownbrown8602]

you guys didn’t really to much research into Olympian pay because most of what you guys said was wrong

[@pansnemesis]

Personally i think they should just all be legalized in mma... 75k and a good name and you can get some custom shit made. I know one isnt supposed to speak on it but look at the bulk of Russian fighters... just sayin

[@wesj1064]

These jokers truly can't intelligently discuss this topic without giggling and strawmanning the case for this. Fact is, everyone's already taking it, so time to be upfront and let the best be the truly best they can be.

[@owenschwinn226]

As a 15 year old aspiring mma fighter, i don’t want to have to take steroids just to be able to compete with others in my weight class and sacrifice all the side effects that come with taking gear. This idea of roided up mma is pretty damn scary to me.

[@MalcolmTurnerKing]

Oh well. Be Good or Be Good At It. Steroids are a part of the sport. Those Hall of Famers who were fighting before you were even born were juiced to the GILLS and laid the foundation of the sport.

[@SnailHatan]

Uh, so don’t fight in a roid league. Simple as.

[@owenschwinn226]

@@SnailHatan yea but with the ufc USADA partnership ending it looks like even the ufc could have roids eventually

[@OliverOils]

you're already going in there to get hit multiple times in the head, body and legs anyway but yeah it's your choice too if you don't like the side effects

[@owenschwinn226]

@@OliverOils yea but y add shrinked up balls and shit into the mix with roids

[@MoshHewson]

Hot take guess The gamble might be that they will have all these athletes juiced to the gills, and then they perform as good as or WORSE than the the "clean" athletes, and that will create a whole heap of "hey wait, why are the openly drug taking athletes not catchig up, performing as good as or better than the clean athletes?" Followed with a distrust campaign for other sport codes to slowly tear up the market by visually being the only "honest" league

[@Corvo131]

Sergei Pavlovich vs the top 3 bantamweights (juiced to the bone) !! Come on Dana, make it happen, give the people what they want !

[@lukeg3714]

Just going to add this to my “wtf has been going on the last 5 years” bingo card. 😂

[@stuartCcash]

One of my daughters is an endcronologist, she is doing research into the effects of steriod use on metabolic activity and some of the data she has sourced suggests that saying 6.3% of men have taken steroids is an underestimate. It is especially bad amongst younger men due to the pressure to have a good body for social media.

[@DUxMORTEM]

Another issue with performance enhancers are they can have severe health issues, both physically and mentally. Roid rage isn't a joke it's a real thing and people on steroids often have compromised immune functions.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

There's no evidence "roid rage" is a "real thing".

[@webtoonlord2754]

@@BiggieTrismegistusur braindead

[@swalihmm]

​​@@BiggieTrismegistusthere is research all the way back from 1990s onwards that proves that "roid rage" is a "real thing".

[@Lukerogers0121]

Tom running with the steroid joke was hilarious.

[@michaelhill6451]

I'm not sure how legalizing steroids helps with athletes not getting paid properly. Great, now they are paid $30K per year and need to spend $2K per month on gear.

[@thispandaispurple]

I think the rate is a lot higher then 6%. I work in the construction industry and almost5 half the people I meet have or are on some form of steroids. It makes sense if you work a physical labor job, it makes the job a lot easier. This also isn't the 80s and steroids have come a long way. More importantly we now properly understand remission and old tropes of a shrinking penis or losing your ability to produce testosterone normally are things of the past.

[@CYMotorsport]

Well strike one is this guys bio. He absolutely did not “lead Thiel’s successful litigatin” not even sure how he thinks he can get away with that . Famously Thiel hired Skadden Arps and Charles Harder. Aron’s not even a lawyer. But by all accounts the schemer who was involved with the original idea for Thiel to pursue the action. Strike 2 is calling himself Dr formally in a byline. No one does that unless you’re an MD/equivalent. That’s beyond cringe. Idk why he’s so comfortable risking athletes careers - with what money? He’s in a lawsuit filed against former business partners to get paid out of Sargon. Yeah no thanks Strike 3 is how dumb the “enhanced Games” concept is. It’s an impossible level of absolute idiocy for track which is all I can speak to. Firstly as you rightfully call out , the average Olympiad’s salary isn’t the issue. It’s performance based. Steroids doesn’t solve the lack of funding and exposure issue in track. And if the goal is.. what… run better times ? That won’t make ppl watch more haha they can’t take these drugs at the events where they are paid their real money. And they are tested out of competition too. So you’re asking them to forfeit their right to be an Olympian for a concept that will likely fold after a few years. Unless world championships and Olympic Games allow steroids, which is never officially going to happen, this is the worst thing a track athlete can do. I would imagine many elements apply for combat sports too.

[@ByronGiant]

I would rather have a well thought out editorial video that this random round table discussion of opinions.

[@ricddjdb1219]

They’ve already done that before can’t remember the name but it’s on the channel

[@asimpson164]

Those who are ignorant of performance enhancing drugs should not be the ones making policy about them. Even just taking anabolic steroids as a talking point, each one is slightly different. They are pharmaceutical products and can't be identical to each other. Beef hormones are cheap but toxic to your system. You never take just one PED, unless you're poor or ignorant, you run a stack (multiple PEDs) for a cycle (a specific duration of time in weeks). Some of this and some of that plus a little of this that and the other to counter the side effects of your main exogenous substances. Having fighters on gear without regulations ia going to get them killed, either in a cage or in their forties from self abuse. Quicker recovery means more strikes to the head per year and harder strikes from the opponent. Keep MMA gear free.

[@anthonynicholson5193]

Soul 88 100m mens final and semi finals out of the 16 men in the semis and final only 2 did not test positive for banned substances in there careers

[@Day-ZDuke]

Shoutout Canada’s Ben Johnson

[@GengoSenmon]

It's a great idea. Everyone needs to get off their moral high horses. We already found out from baseball 30 years ago that rich athletes pay chemists tons of 💰for proprietary anabolics formulas with compounds that are not tested for. The only way to make it a genuinely level playing field is to allow anabolics.

[@scorpionxiiclips]

The issue is that some fighters will steroids to get ahead, so other fighters follow to keep up, then some fighters use even more steroids to get ahead again, then the other fighters follow again, and this keeps going and going until it becomes dangerous.

[@buildorburn]

this will be a str8 path to the wwe

[@SeanMan1337]

Liver king reported he spent 100k per year on roids. It becomes even more about who has more money to win. It also sets a precedent for kids coming up to need roids to compete. There is no such thing as doing steroids safely, all those upsides don't come for free.

[@donaldnewell4868]

How much are tickets to the Paris Olympics? This all depends on which event and how many tickets you wish to purchase. Single ticket prices for the games range from $40 (€24) to more than $1500 (€950). Tickets for the Opening and Closing Ceremonies start at $150 (or €90). More than one million tickets will be available for $40, with nearly 50 per cent of tickets reserved for the general public priced at less than or around $82 (€50). Tickets for medal events at the games cost less than or around $165 (€100).

[@AngloCelt88]

Just a matter of time before the discussion of steroids being okay in highschool sports. Before anyone says that is a ridiculous thought, just remember that a couple of years ago the idea of tampons in boy's bathrooms would have never been uttered anywhere in the world.

[@ChaserX90]

my grandad had this idea about 10 years ago, and called it the "wind 'em up and watch 'em go olympics"

[@declanp1]

Why do you assume that taking steroids destroy your body?

[@babyting395]

Exactly.

[@ajinsato9389]

Ive been a huge supporter of PEDs. I want to see how fast, strong, jump, throw, humans can be. I want to see a shaper athlete. A hyper focused athlete.

[@toby099]

All because USADA wouldn’t let Dana make an exception for his little pet McGregor

[@zamboanganbeats]

A few years ago I had a muay thai fight against twins, the smaller one did the weigh in and the bigger one did the fight. All this happened after I had to cut weight and get drained of blood with all the testing.

[@jayb.6685]

My issue is what happens to fighters on steriods with losing streaks and they get cut, it would be hard for them just to jump to another fighting league.

[@dilbopillobobip7528]

"INTRODUCING FIRST!, JON BOOOOONES JOOOOONES - HE'S RUNNING 1200 mg of dbol, 600 mg test, and 330 mb of anavar every 3 days - with a professional record of 29 wins and 1 no contest!, with blood tests every 3 weeks!"

[@RichRobinson]

I always thought it would be cool to stick their total and free test numbers and their dose in the tale of the tape. I feel like we’re getting closer 😂

[@purplepencil-ft8ey]

I usually like your takes but this one was terrible. Did you guys even watch the podcast? There are so many questions and doubts you guys had that were answered in the podcast. 1. Yes steroids would help create revenue and is one way to help pay the athletes more. The most obvious way is sponsorship. They gave a great example with Lance Armstrong. 2. Steroids aren't the only changes they are doing to the Olympics. I think, more importantly, they are doing infrastructure changes. There are so many sports in the Olympics that are a huge waste of money and that nobody watches but are just there for tradition. Also, they wouldn't need to find a "host". They aren't going to be confined to a single city. They just need to find some Trump-like (similar to the UFC in the early days) people who own a venue and don't care what they do. 3. The athletes wouldn't need to transition to "professional sports" if you solve the pay issue. Why would they go from probably making hundreds if not millions of dollars in sponsorships and pay from this league to making 10k to show and 10k to win in the UFC?

[@PsychClub]

The only thing that makes sense about this is that it is a “loss leader” to try to normalize use in all leagues. There is no way is going to pan out the way they think it will. Think about it… they only test for steroids after an event so there has been nothing in history to prevent someone from riding themselves out and running a sub nine second 100 m if it were possible. If someone could throw a 200 foot shotput roofed out. they would’ve already done it for the clout and tested dirty afterwards.

[@The31st]

It'll be interesting to see how they compete with the records of olympic athletes. Cos I think you guys are right that it's not going to be the best of the best who do it, this will be the bkfc of athletics. But what happens when you take a good but not elite person and let them juice at much as they want? Will they set a whole bunch of new records or will they still not be better? If even juiced to gills no one can break Bolt's record, what might that suggest about his legitimacy?

[@gentlemandemon]

The "average" Olympic athlete probably makes $30k because some are highly visible pro athletes like basketball players ehile others speed walkers. That doesn't average out well. And that's not couting the various workarounds where athletes maintain amateur status while having their expenses paid for by their home nation or some rich benefactor. Getting rid of the amateur requirements for all athletes would probably solve the issue, but then there'd be nothing for these rich guys to put their names on and make even more money. These "disruptor" types are so annoying, it's all just marketing. I wouldn't be surprised if they have no intention in actually succeeding, and this is just some elaborate financial grift.

[@SamsonGuest]

Professionals have been allowed to compete in most disciplines at the Olympics for decades at this point. This is not the problem. Reality is that a majority of the sports that are represented at the Olympics don't gather much interest with people who are not participating in the sport if its not the Olympics. Without an audience there are no sponsors, nobody to buy tickets or merchandise. So there is no revenue. So there is no money in these sports to get the athletes payed. Even if they are professionals.

[@gentlemandemon]

@@SamsonGuest fair, I knew it was allowed in some sports, but I haven't really been able to find a concrete list, so I just kind of assumed it was the high-profile ones like basketball. And some sports just straight-up don't have professional leagues, like wrestling. Regardless, my main point is that the figure those guys quoted is heavily skewed, and they're not exactly providing a solution to those sports, unless they plan to heavily subsidize the pay of athletes from less popular sports. Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if they did, but I don't see guys like these doing that sort of thing.

[@SamsonGuest]

@gentlemandemon sure. Not trying to argue against you. Also agree the dudes seem like grifters I don't think they care as much about the athletes as they claim. My only point was that the problem is not the amateur clause because it's only applying to a few selected sports these days.

[@joshm1636]

The problem with legalising steroids for something like combat sports is that its such an unknown effect. As you guys said, people taking steroids are looking for an unfair advantage which is somewhat removed when everyone's on steroids. My understanding is that performance enhancement steroids aid recovery, strength and endurance, but in a combat situation, strength and endurance don't count for much when one fighter is just way more skilled. I'm an Australian planning on being in Brisbane for the 2032 Olympics, and I've been saying for months that id absolutely love a Juiced Olympics, especially if they call it the OlympX like I have. 🤞 If they do, imho it should really concentrate more on the individual sports and have an aim at seeing just how much they can eclipse commonwealth/olympic/world records. And by that time, I'd expect prosthetics and other areas of technology based human augmentation (yes, i like the Deus Ex series, so what 😂) so that'd be awesome too. But yeah, if you come at this from a "lets see what the human body is REALLY capable of" perspective, what juiced athletes are actually competing against are the records.

[@pelago_]

The best point here is that if a big guy got a knockout you’d look and think “of course he did that, he’s on steroids”. Even if it looks super impressive, there’s no sense of achievement.

[@ARMY-ep6fz]

They'll never legalize steroids in a combat sport. I used them in the military because its amazing for recovery and stamina. Especially if you want to be more than a regular soldier. But they'll never allow it in combat sports. I use trt now and its wonderful for men over 40. Trt is very safe if managed and monitored by a doctor. Trt was legal in the UFC, but then people started cheating and taking full on growth hormone. It will never happen again.

[@Cyrenaika98]

Nice now nobody has to run from fighting in the States

[@Deltaaaaaaaaa]

Except a bunch of the Russians and Khamzat Chimaev.

[@Night-Jester]

Luke had me laughing so hard at the end.

[@spaceworm94]

Steroids are a benfit for a limited period of time before the negative effects outweight the positive.

[@moistgrip]

First thing I do when I open KZbin is check if MMA ON POINT dropped a new video 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@chasethomas9238]

Yes, PED use is common despite being against the rules, but I think the athletes and their management limit it to what they feel they can get away with... I think the ones who win these 'enhanced' events won't necessarily be the best in any sense, just the ones most willing to risk their health and even life to win.

[@graysoncoleman8642]

Gable got released he didn’t choose to leave to go to the NFL, the WWE saw nothing in him as an entertainer

[@jameslangley2196]

It’s hiding in plain sight, an open secret.

[@MrTooEarnestOnline]

I really hope they get back to regulating it heavier. I’m an MMA guy that looks like he’s on steroids (I’m not) but I’ve been getting those strange looks since my senior year in Highschool. I want to go to the highest levels of MMA naturally to prove that you can. I really think genetics and prepubescent intense exercise makes a world of difference. Happy you guys are bringing this issue up but I always get a little pit in my stomach when steroids are discussed.

[@herethere5637]

so basically, if you took steroids you'd take over the world. People who have good natural genetics have an even bigger incentive to take drugs, because you'd just eat everyone alive.

[@MalcolmTurnerKing]

THE UFC HALL OF FAME DOES NOT EXIST WITHOUT STEROIDS! DID NONE OF YOU WATCH BACK IN THE DAY!?

[@BreakneckTV]

Olympics are not free to attend though that would be sick. Some of the popular events can have extremely expensive tickets.

[@EdwardoTropicano]

Who doesn’t want to see someone run the 100m in 3.24 second and do a 18m high jump! Sign me up for that !

[@moody9442]

fire the guy who said a guy in a roid league would fight jon jones 14:00. jones would be the first fighter signed to that roid league.