Keith, I'm flattered that you mentioned me in your presentation. Brother the you play the hell out of that horn. Where are you located? Would love to meet you one day. Respect!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching; I’m truly honored! I (and the Trombone Shop) are in Minnesota; there is a busy Salsa scene here in the Minneapolis/St. Paul metro and I’ve had the privilege of playing many of your songs with local salsa bands! I too hope to meet you one day; thank you again!
@EvanWeeks4 жыл бұрын
What a cool concept! Heck, I WANT one, and I just bought a King Marching Euph, so I have to wait a bit or my wife will murder me and keep my ashes in the Euph.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
I do really love playing it; however, with that said I have been a big fan of the King marching euphoniums for a while. We had one of the original System Blue euphoniums in our shop for a time and while it would kill my left arm to play for extended periods it sounded and responded wonderfully!
@sampagan10674 жыл бұрын
The stress will be enough to bury you in the Euph alive. I know with my brass collections.. : )
@EvanWeeks3 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Just a follow-up, I actually ended up picking up a Flugabone by Wessex Tubas, and it's GREAT! It blows freely, has a nice crisp top-end, and I can still pretty easily reach down to pedal tones with the Denis Wick 7BS mouthpiece I've been using.
@ericrichmond87304 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the Salsa style. It was the staple of Fania Records sound with Willie Colon' and Ruben Blades
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
I am an admitted latecomer to salsa but Willie and Ruben have certainly been influences on me; now we just need the pandemic to end so we can have salsa performances again and I can put it to use! Thanks for watching!
@rorschach1624 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop What size practice mute does it take?
@rorschach1624 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Did Conn make an identical model?
@Torqueasi2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's been on the hunt for an 1130 for quite a while, this is a really cool video to watch. I'm primarily a trombone player, but in drum corp I play Baritone. Recently I broke my arm, so playing anything with heavier motion or too heavy of a bell, like my 1127, has been difficult to say the least. Enter my recent find, I do have an Olds O21 that was a gift from my the High School I volunteer to teach jazz at, as well as serving as sort of a brass mentor. I adore the sound of the Olds. I'd love to get my hands on one in silver, so I can swap over to playing in full time for Drum Corps.
@HallOfBass4 жыл бұрын
So glad you reviewed this horn!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I noticed there are a few players who have been posting recent videos with their flugabones; I'm glad to see folks still playing them regularly!
@rorschach1623 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Have you tried the Dynasty Flugabone?
@marvinschumacher85493 жыл бұрын
is it possible to get a left-handed flugabone ?
@TruColor2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these back in the '90s and used it on a number of gigs in Chicago and Denver where I used to live and gig a lot. Even have a recording of me soloing on it with the Neophonic Jazz Orchestra. Love that thing.
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
This is that Valve Trombone sound that Juan Tizol was known for when he played with Duke Ellington and his Jazz Orchestra.
@mikesosa11467 ай бұрын
Love the Flugabone / Marching Trombone and love the Willie Colon intro. THANKS!!!!
@terryturner2614 жыл бұрын
I own one and I love playing it, thanks for doing a piece on it
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I have been playing mine for about 3 weeks and I love it more and more every time I play it! I may be taking it out for it's first gig this weekend (we will see...)
@ResidentialGondola3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect hearing Das Rheingold, I’ll be honest. But I LOVED it!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to demo a bit of orchestral lit as the flugabone is touted by some as a bass trumpet substitute; I don’t think it would fly in higher-end groups but with the right player and approach I think it has some legs!
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
It really sounds amazing as a Solo instrument
@kurthotelling66063 жыл бұрын
I'm a freshly retired Bandmaster -- I was able to purchase the last two King Fluga/Fluegelbones in the market 22 years ago -- I used one with my Bands for marching (I played with them) and the other for concert when I conducted and played with them. After professionally performing on Euphonium and BBb Tuba, I needed something handier for teaching. LOVE these horns! Incredibly diverse in sound and flexibility. Why do I have TWO of them? Well, one student was holding my first and dropped it on pavement -- my poor horn was restored, but not overhauled (yet) -- plays like a dream but carries those scars. I went to the source for this design and was told flatly that it will never be made again. Damned shame.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how these horns have come back to the fore over the past several months; I love mine and I get a lot of folks looking for them but, as you say, they are not really in production currently. However, we may or may not be working on a project as a part of our Lake City line... ;)
@anthonygonzalez64223 жыл бұрын
Another retired bandmaster here, enjoying the 1130! Hooah!
@raterus2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this briefly in high school, I always remembered it because of the three spit valves all lined up in the front.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop2 жыл бұрын
Very unique indeed!
@QMore-fp7wn Жыл бұрын
Cool vid and great playing. I played the Olds version in college marching band. We fielded traditional, slide bones, marching baritones, matching euphoniums, and the flugalbones. We called them marching trombones. Needless to say we had a big low brass sound.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing (and watching!)
@justinwillow61944 жыл бұрын
Nice playing! I have a lacquer King 1130 and a Kanstul Custom Class 955 marching trombone in silver plate. The Kanstul is more finicky, with brass (instead of nylon) valve guides that can slip out of place and very wide valve buttons. Otherwise they seem identical; a nice mellow sound with lots of possible color variations that I'd describe as a bass cornet. The earlier Olds design is wrapped tighter and smaller - I have three examples (Olds O21, Bach Mercedes 883, Blessing M200) all in varying condition from the 70s 80s and 90s. All play a bit differently, with the sound varying a lot between mouthpieces, but all are more brazen, harsh and trombone-like than the King design. I prefer them for most combo Jazz work with a Bach 14D Megatone (this makes the lower register a bit awkward).
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
When I was exploring flugabone options the warmth and “non-trombone ness” of the King was a big selling point. Does your King have nylon valve guides? Mine has integrated metal guides; they’re quiet enough now but I do worry about them in the future...
@bernardwhite80072 жыл бұрын
King flugebones are great instruments The guy in the video mentioned old bones but no mention of Reynolds flugebones. I think rentals makes the greatest they have different bores such as 5:15 5:10 and 520 size bores They are very hard to find but if you can find one in good condition definitely jump on it I have one and I love it. I have the 5 15 bore. Slick valve action in big sound with no stuffiness.
@snoopdrj4 жыл бұрын
Nice playing, man! Thanks for reviewing this horn. Never seen one before, and you played the Hell out of it!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! I have been spending a lot of time with it over the past month and it is getting more comfortable all of the time; I almost love it more now then when it arrived (which I think is a good sign!)
@kbroadey3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! I've got one too and it's such fun to play when my regular euphonium is too mellow for the setting. Have managed to get your hands on an 1127 marching baritone (or the 1124 - same thing with a small shank adapter on the leadpipe). That's great fun too, though tiring on the arms. The 1129 marching euphonium looks interesting too - seems to be halfway between the flugabone and bari in terms of bore increase towards the bell.
@sammieseoul5544 Жыл бұрын
that sounds really nice.
@Heimdall10152 жыл бұрын
So I play this for my middle....I'm a freshmen now... my high school band and it was extremely common for my director to give me tennor sax music because I knew both bass and treble clef but now it's mostly baritone music
@mikelevitz12663 жыл бұрын
Nice. sounds like bass trumpet. Could work easily in symphony or band. He is a good player. Great sound for a jazz band. Nothing compares to the sound of trombone, tenor sax, and trumpet in original jazz crusaders. Mellow yellow.
@smholgate Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I would take one of those. Nice playing, as usual.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@smholgate Жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Thoughts on the Lake City 415 Flugabone? Is there a video?
@daveburch2352 жыл бұрын
Seeing this a couple of months ago inspired me to find my own King 1130, and now I own one. They are pretty scarce. This one had some minor damage that my tech fixed up easily. That, and a good cleaning, and it sounds pretty much like the one Keith is playing here. I am taking it to band rehearsals now to be ready for opportunities to solo with it. Why should only trumpet players have two or three horns around their seats???
@yahbarrahyisrael19212 жыл бұрын
Man, you made that sound EASY to play!!!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Dr_CocknBall3 ай бұрын
I love the flugabone istg
@randyknisely89794 жыл бұрын
I've got a Blessing, bass tpt, flug, etc, it used to be Al Greys (basie), it is good in the mid and upper range but kind of stuffy in the lower, especially 23, 13 and 123, also is sharp in that range but plays pretty intune in the other areas especially if some alternate fingerings are used, not sure what bore it is, probably 500 or lower, thanks for the vidio!
@franklee15507 ай бұрын
Years ago I had a King flugabone and like an idiot I sold it. I recently got a Kanstul flugabone in brand new condition with a red brass bell and I have to say, it’s as good, if not better than the King.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop6 ай бұрын
The Kanstul version is one of the few I have not gotten to play; I would love to put hands on one sometime!
@KingofBlah372 жыл бұрын
Idilio at the beginning! I'd been wondering what Willie Colon played for his valve stuff. I was only recently exposed to the flugabone, so I always assumed it was a normal valve trombone or bass trumpet.
@iloveyoubebe3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! I want one of these so bad
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
We are actually working on a flugabone project at the moment; stay tuned for more info...🙂
@iloveyoubebe3 жыл бұрын
♥️🙏🎺
@bonemack3 жыл бұрын
Agreed with review. I feel you get the best of a King Diplomat baritone (easier blow) and a King Trombone (edgy, trombone sound).
@giancarloburigo79535 ай бұрын
It's a marching trombone. Flugabone is a strange term for me, There are not similarities with flugelhorn construction, just visual. Indeed It's a Very good instrument and good sound.
@ceomindsetcoach3 жыл бұрын
Loved your demonstration. I have been wanting to pick up the trombone again after many years. I played baritone as well and looked into the marching Bb baritone at first, but it doesn't seem to have the tone I would want, plus it had a huge bell that gave me the impression it can be super loud. The flugabone is what I'm looking for. Never heard of it until today. Amazing. I want it for jazz specifically and this will work. Thanks for sharing. Question I have, is what type of mute can you use for this that fits. A bass trombone mute? Curious because I will need one or my neighbors would kill me. Lol
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! One of the reasons I love the King flugabone is that with it’s 8 1/2” bell most tenor trombone mutes fit it well. If you are specifically looking for a practice mute I use both the Yamaha Silent Brass and tenor Sshhmute with it and they work beautifully! Feel free to contact me directly at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com any time if I can help with anything else; thanks again for watching and commenting!
@user-vs7fv8yp9o Жыл бұрын
Very Good! 😄
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😄
@jamesclose72933 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I played one just like that in 1981 and 82. Since they are not made any more what would be the replacement for the king 1130. I am thinking of getting one or something that plays the same. Any suggestions. Thanks
@RockStarOscarStern6342 жыл бұрын
A Valve Trombone might work
@sangreactivarecords1068 Жыл бұрын
What key is this flugabone? Sounds like a valve trombone b plat
@raulomargarcia4 жыл бұрын
Well done Keith
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jazzbariman4 жыл бұрын
I have a question about this instrument. Is it in Bb? Could you use the same fingers n Treble Clef and Bass Clef like you do with Baritone Horn? Or does this use a different fundamental? Loved the sound you got on this. The jazz stuff killed.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
It is indeed in Bb, same register as trombone/baritone. It has definitely been making me work on my valve technique (which is good, because my technique needs the work!)
@Bryn_Raschaul2 жыл бұрын
I’m a composer and brass musician (primarily slide trombonist). Would you consider this brand and model good for jazz? I wanted to start playing mellophone, but repertoire for that is scarce and they’re notoriously out of tune. I thought about bass trumpet or baritone but I’m thinking transitioning to just a valved trombone would be better.
@2539ali3 жыл бұрын
I play a Kanstul, I love it!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
Excellent; I have never had a chance to play one but I have always heard good things!
@mictlantecuhtlinahui26153 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Question!, would that marching trombone fit in a triple trumpet gig bag, maybe the marching trombone and a trumpet? I want to buy a good quality gig bag for my Kanstul, but the only one I have known about is the Glen Cronkhite, the problem is they are expensive and they don't accept returns, and my emails about the dimensions of the interior of the bag were never answered, they have bad costumer service.
@zeldemalevitz49964 жыл бұрын
I dig this!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zelde! I hope everything is well! A funny note given our recent conversations: the only folks who make a gig bag specifically for flugabone are Cronkhite. I want to order one but, well, you know.... ;)
@RockiesFan832 жыл бұрын
How does the weight of a Flugabone compare to the weight of a marching baritone? Is it similar, lighter?
@franklee15502 жыл бұрын
Had one years ago and sadly I sold it. Does king have plans to remake it? How does it compare to the Olds? Been looking for one for a while.
@anthonygonzalez64222 жыл бұрын
Have you played a Bach bass trumpet? If so, which instrument plays better the flugabone or the bass trumpet? Factors im concerned with are intonation, centering and lower register. Thanks
@Juan_Bone092 жыл бұрын
The flugabone is a larger bore instrument than bass trumpet The bass register is better with that
@NYESOX4 жыл бұрын
Do you know much about the Mercedes 883 bach flugabone? I have a chance to buy one for $140.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had the chance to experience this model but another viewer commented about this particular model; the Bach Mercedes line was designed as an intermediate-level instrument category and it sounds like their experience with the flugabone was not great, with intonation, sound and response issues. However, that is really the first I have heard about them and so if you end up with other feedback I would love to hear about it!
@denysreis90 Жыл бұрын
Keith, o flugabone toca soa como o king 3b de válvulas?
@Red-fu4li4 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith! Do you think you could do a review on the Yamaha 350c is you get the chance? I know it’s a student trombone but the more compact style with the 2 position trigger was always fascinating to me.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
The 350C is really an interesting concept, isn't it? I have never had the change to put hands on one (or seen one in person) but it is vaguely reminiscent of certain horns with ascending valves. It's a clever solution from Yamaha (one wonders if european-inspired) and if I ever run across one I will absolutely do a video with it!
@sandramilenaibarraarenas80153 жыл бұрын
the bore is the same of the king 606 , yamaha ysl-354 or jinbao jbsl-700.... what's the number of the bell??
@jorymil2 жыл бұрын
Okay. Need to get one of these. I'm sure I can find something to sell.
@duckboi33624 жыл бұрын
Just got one of these bad boys, any idea if trumpet parts ie a leather valve wrap, finger tops, rings etc would fit on it?
@user-py8hc6lx2l Жыл бұрын
hi, what size mouthpiece do you use for trombone marching? because I have one but it doesn't sound good thanks
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Жыл бұрын
It depends a great deal on the mouthpiece and instrument you are using now, how long you have been playing, other playing you are doing, etc; do you have any other specifics?
@user-py8hc6lx2l Жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop hello, I started playing the trombone after 30 years, today I've been playing for 4 months, I bought a marching trombone to play in a band, but the instrument with a denis wick 5bs or 6.5 al mouthpiece, sounds like if it had any lack of sound. The sound is not clean. they told me to use a mouthpiece with a smaller chamber, what do you think? Thanks for the reply.
@gdotone13 жыл бұрын
this horns sounds a lot better than the lake city, well to me.
@sceu253 жыл бұрын
Nice double f! I assume the small and cylindrical bore makes it much easier in the high range.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
Easier is all relative; I find I have better access to that register on this instrument as compared to euphonium but it still takes more effort then on small-bore tenor...
@THIAGO-gc9ff7 ай бұрын
Somm lindo de mais toca muito bemm
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment !
@mwturfgrass12882 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between the king 1122 and 1130?
@Augustinemelecio3 жыл бұрын
Nice Willie Colon!
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve been trying to listen to more of his and Ruben Blades’ Fania work lately; so good!
@wagnerpereira93412 жыл бұрын
Tem algum material para o trombone de marcha ?
@williamnettleton34133 жыл бұрын
Who are some retailers that I can look at to get this? Wessex has a flugabone that is pre order for next year, but id love a king. Is it just something you search the internet for until you find one eventually?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
As you say there are not a lot of reliable resources for flugabones. I was very lucky to find my King on eBay (there are actually a few Kings on there as of this comment) but even there the recent surge in interest has driven up the prices a bit. The recent demand has piqued my interest in finding a better resource for flugabones; I will certainly let folks know if we hit upon a solution!
@bonemack3 жыл бұрын
I second the observation on price. Three years ago, I was able to get three for under $500, each in playing condition. I’ve sold all but one since.
@4rtur03 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between Flugabone and Bass Trumpet?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
The biggest differences are bore size and wrap. Bass trumpets are very often in the .470-.490" range; combined with a trumpet-style wrap and a more conical design they tend to be more directional but also need a more focused, trumpet-type air approach to play well (which I have struggled with on bass trumpets in the past.) In comparison the King flugabone is a larger .500" bore and much more flugel-like in design, meaning that it naturally has more warmth to it's sound; I find it to feel and respond like a good valve trombone but with more warmth and color (although I can brighten the sound to an extent with the right approach and mouthpiece...)
@victortorresosorio33 Жыл бұрын
Que precio tiene estén king 1130 ???
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Жыл бұрын
They are unfortunately not in production any longer; pricing on used 1130s seems to be anywhere from $500 to $1500 depending on condition…
@raymondfallon74294 жыл бұрын
I looked at the Schmitt site and couldn't find this horn for sale. Is it already gone? I've been searching eBay for a decent one for a year or so with no luck.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
This one is actually mine! I also had been searching and found one (on eBay as it happens) for a bit of a steal. I’d like to tell you I’d sell it to you for the right price but I am kind of in love with it right now...
@raymondfallon74294 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop you probably outbid me for it.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
With no gig income right now I doubt it ;)
@raymondfallon74294 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop I hear you... I was already retired when I bought the Shires bass from you. That was from my final annual performance bonus. Those days are GONE!
@erniearruda88614 жыл бұрын
You missed another brand name on the boneaphone ( that’s what I call it) Mercedes II by Bach back in the late seventies.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching this! I haven't had the opportunity to experience the Mercedes marching trombone but I have certainly seen references to it. Have you had experience with this model? I would love to hear more about how it played!
@erniearruda88614 жыл бұрын
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop I did play one and repair it. (I’m also a brass repair technician in Kitchener Ontario Canada 🇨🇦) I found a bit stuffy and a bit of tuning issues. First and third slides were fixed to their position.had a fellow that own it and played it in my brass quintet and it sounded awful.he was a euphonium player so slide trombone was not his game.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I hope you are staying busy up north!
@ibungjm4 жыл бұрын
💛
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@pebblebeach85173 жыл бұрын
This reads from the base clef ?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
Yes, although a lot of low brass players end up learning to read music in treble clef, tenor clef, Bb treble clef, alto clef, etc. as well...
@pebblebeach85173 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop so if I am playing with another regular trombone player we can both read from the same chart ? ( I read both base and treble so I can play from my b-flat treble books if I want to sole by myself?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
That’s absolutely correct! Just as a thought we have our own flugabone we just introduced (you may have seen our announcement a few weeks ago); I really enjoy how it plays and we are trying to offer it at a great value!
@pebblebeach85173 жыл бұрын
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop link ?
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
We have info on our website at shop.schmittmusic.com/lake-city-415-flugabone/. We also have an intro video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIXZgaaLmrWBa8k...
@JL-bu8bz Жыл бұрын
All this flugabone sounds like a student trombone playing by an student musician. There are no sustein and few low harmonics. Maybe using a heavy mounthpiece can Sound better. But to but in a bag and play gigs its can be useful.
@denysreis903 жыл бұрын
++++ vídeos flugabone
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop3 жыл бұрын
I will see what I can do; I am certainly still playing mine enough! Thanks for watching!
@gkaji62544 жыл бұрын
Even though you're so terrible and not selling it I still gave this video a like. Lol.
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that! On the plus side I think there are more flugabones out there if one were to keep looking; I chanced into mine on eBay one night but if you look through the "Sold" listings they come up fairly frequently...
@raulomargarcia4 жыл бұрын
Idilio
@SchmittMusicTromboneShop4 жыл бұрын
A classic! I need to dig into Willie's (and some of the other great players of the eras') catalogs and learn some more of their bass trumpet literature!
@Potter54164 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a marching trombone.
@jazzbariman4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. There is. My brother played one back in the 1980s with the Phantom Regiment. Also take at look here: www.kanstul.com/instruments/marching-brass/955-bb-marching-trombone/
@raymondfallon74294 жыл бұрын
@@jazzbariman I have always loved Phantom's low brass sound. Always.